The ultimate Porsche 917 recreation project
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Is this the ultimate (and only road legal) Porsche 917 recreation project? Think of 917s and you might think of Steve McQueen in the Le Mans film... Gulf livery, flimsy, but fast AF and a car which was basically outlawed in the 24hr for being too good.
Well this car has been built to the exact spec of a 1969/70 917K and put through the IVA (independent vehicle approval) so as to obtain road registration. That means stuff like a glass windscreen (heated), wipers that work, mirrors that work and brakes/steering that mimic the original 917.
There were only 25 short tail 917s made and none of those were road legal. Dave, from Icon Engineering, has designed this car to be more rigid, safer and significantly better made than an original.
To read more about this 10-year recreation project build, and Jonny's take on it, head over and join our Patreon gang: / thelatebrakeshow
Thanks for stopping by The Late Brake Show.
Icon Engineering have a Facebook page: / replica917
Instagram: icon_917K.
Turn-key car (with 964 3.6L engine and G50 transmission) = £250K + taxes.
For a rolling chassis = £140K + taxes.
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Jonny Smith
Creative content maker, car presenter & car pervert for hire since '98
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:12 Grand unveil
2:58 Where did it start?
3:39 25 ever made
5:05 The inspiration
5:50 Body for sale on Pistonheads
6:36 Flat 12 engine = €1.4 million
8:26 Ordering and prices
9:17 Bespoke cast magnesium wheels
9:54 CAD chassis madness
11:15 LIGHTNESS
12:12 Will Jonny fit?
13:16 START UP
13:45 ROAD DRIVING
15:05 Dimensions
19:20 Detailed walkaround
21:21 Engine detail & specs
23:34 Luggage options
27:03 Road driving contd
31:53 Verdict
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Never underestimate what can be achieved by men in sheds. Absolutely fantastic.
Was how the world was built.
In great brittain people in sheds rule the whole empire.
I hope these guys have the same success as Singer has. I also can't wait for the Boost should liven things up abit😂
@@peterdevreter Some of those Brits have emigrated though.... wink wink
I wonder if they kept a tally of how many brews were consumed during the design & build of this...? 🤔🤣
When you look at the modern supercars, hypercars, this still has a beauty that stuns.
Yeah
yep one of the most beautiful cars ever made
This wud look cool beside the Superformance GT40 in sum man cave.
I believe if Porsche HQ saw this, they would give these guys the V12.
What a stunning homage to the original.
@@The.Gavin.T Porsche would do them a bigger favor by giving them the schematics and engineering specs for the engine instead of an actual engine
@@atfsgeoff The lads said they al ready own those schematics and that it will be a straight forward but expensive job. No idea how they got their hands on em.
It's a flat 12 I'm pretty sure, that would be dope
Porsche isn't giving them a multi million dollar flat 12 engine. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If they are anything like Jaguar they are more likely to take out an injunction to get the car taken off the road and ensure that it never sees the light of day again.
This is epic! Plus, £250k for a turn-key car seems like a bargain, when you consider the price of some other "recreations" knocking about.
Because its basically just a chasis and a frame lol
RIP Vic Elford who was mentioned as one of the 917 drivers back in the day.
Casually just mentions reverse engineering a Porsche flat12 "totally feasible!" Brittish shed engineering at its best! Go on boys! Great stuff!👍
Words ‘feasible’, and I hope that they’re mad enough to actually attempt it!
the original is just two flat sixes buttoned together
I would love to hear James May explaing, while Jeremy and Richard beeing silly.
@@ironmonkey1512 In theory. But the devil is in the details as you know...
Watch Allen Millyard to see what he does with motorcycle engines
Simply the best UK Car Channel on CZcams by a country mile….
Chris, thank you ✊🏽
For some reason I keep picturing Steve McQueen in one of those, awesome ! 😎 👏
Sounds gorgeous, even with 'just' a 6 cylinder in it. Another one for the 'lottery win' list
Fan bloody tastic what a pair of geezers
Love that they just made everything .proper
British engineering at its best! I love this car!!!
"British engineering" ^^ Of a 100% German engineered replica.
Most of the engineering is German (Porsche).
That is hands down.....The coolest thing i've ever seen.....The 917 on the road....I love those two guys.
I don’t think there’s been another car that’s made my heart beat faster like the 917k, it’s the super hero of the car world and that one looks superb…….just needs that incredible flat 12 roar.
Yes!! the >flat 12< make a sound like "Godzilla" make a very angry "rrooooaaaarrrr"!! Best wish Reiner from Germany
Two guys in a shed, quality British engineering! Just brilliant.
This looks so well engineered, it's a true recreation and as true as possible to the original. Given the multitude of GT40 reps there must be a market for this... and as you fit in Jonny could be one for the collection, with a Gulf livery!
A collector would not be interested in Gulf livery - surely better to put it in the livery of the 1st Porsche to win Le Mans, the Dickie Attwood winning car.
There used to be a company that sold a kit called the "Elite Laser 917" in the early 1970's and made about 2000 of them. A cheap VW knock off but still looked pretty cool for that time period.
Im quite sure Gulf has got rights pending on that livery.
@@geoffsaunders4960 The gulf livery would definitely be of interest to a collector because of the Steve McQueen film.
@@brolo7234 I doubt it. A collector would know. They'd go for the more original.
That is "insert expletive here that starts with F & ends with ing" Fantastic! Incredible execution, thanks for sharing
Genius will take few only so far...persistence will take many MUCH further. 10 years...ten YEARS!! Friggin epic. Fantastic work, gents.
I worked on the sound for Porche: The Racing Legend. I loved the sound of the 917. Derek Bell had so much fun. He said the car did 246 at Le Mans, by the way.
Absolutely brilliant! The passion , dedication and engineering excellence in building this car is so inspiring for many petrol heads perusing their dreams.
Saw your disappointment on twitter Jonny. Keep the faith. Your channel is awesome, your interviews lovely, your direction true north and your persona utterly heart warming.
Thank you for gifting this to us all Jonny me boy! You’re a good lad.
The shots of it going down Southend it’s pure gold 👌🏼🙇🏼
I worked with Dave many years ago, working for a vehicle OEM. He was one of the best design engineers and nicest guys I had the pleasure to work with. I am not surprised by the quality of the build. Fantastic to see the end result, ten + years later. Good luck to you both with your venture.
Outstanding and authentic recreation of such an iconic race car.
Paint it in gulf racing colours and it's 101% desirable.
The old memory isn't what it was but, back around the times when these were active there was a Race at Brands Hatch where these were raced in wet conditions. They were undrivable in those conditions... all over the shop sideways and rarely in a straight line. Spectacular.
A perfect demonstration of the term "Pendulous Porsches". They don't make 'em like those anymore.
Jonny - amazing video as always. Whether it be a Porsche 917, a discarded Sierra from the 90s, or the latest in EV tech, your joy and enthusiasm for all things automotive shines through. The videography is so professional it deserves to be on TV. Well done, can't wait for the next one!
Thanks John 👍🏻
We don't want it on TV. The big channels will ruin it. Let's keep it a CZcams secret.
Agreed but what I meant was that the production and quality of the videos is so high that its TV worthy.
@@paulhenderson6092 exactly. Even Chris Harris prefers the small production films on CZcams than the big scripted TV stuff.
@@johngregory5280 totally agree. The more I'm talking to people about my channel, the more I'm finding that people aren't watching the TV like we used to. I think there will always be a BBC but boy are they missing out. I loved everything about this video, the car, Jonnys delivery, the cinematography and music where it needed to be. The best motoring YT channel by far. Driven by passion.
Driving that around the roads must have been a heck of an experience Jonny! What an amazing job the guys have done building it.
This is beautiful and I am drooling. I'm 56 and this car is from the dreams of my childhood. For a road car clone, a flat air cooled 6 is perfect.
A dream came true. A road legal 917K.
Such a ufo when it drives by in the sunset with those yellow'ish spotlights...What a beauty.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant, you just never know what's happening behind the garage doors of suburbia. I'd loved to have been in the car, on a large screen you still get a sense of what it must be like to be in the drivers seat.
Best part of the day watching this with a cup of tea and biscuits. Jonny you are a genuine master of your trade, thank you!
Gary, that means a lot. Thank you.
Just wow. I LOVE this and get it completely. Proper, unsanitary stuff and love how the roof was level with your waist... Best TLBS to date.
Cheers Kevin. It is a v special project, and I hope a few folks order one.
The car of the century (20th). You’re just doing the best job in the world mate!
Huge congratulations to the builders of this one.
My dream car since birth...now a road car. Just wow! Love old school British engineering... Real talent!
And get those turbos fitted!
The video production with the timelapses and the period-related music is next level. Good job!
WOW what a car. The flat 12 is something we need to see once its done..
GREAT video 2x👍
The lighting and framing on that shot at @31:42 is *chef's kiss*. Great film and car all around!
Always yearned for a Countach, now I want one of these !!!!
I had two "favourite" Scalextric cars when I was a kid and one of them was a 917 in Gulf colours (the other was a MK1 Escort). Fantastic build.
Me too
Got a collection of Fly 917s as well as Ferrari 512 to match
I think I did too now you mention it. I can’t be doing with replicas tho I’m afraid. As a stand-alone project , great, fantastic job.
I have the JPS car and a blue elf car
I had a white MK1 Escort. Had a loose back end. Proper Scalextric rally car. 😁
Absolutely stunning and beautiful.
I love the engineering nonchalance. The confidence in their ability to reverse engineer a flat twelve! Gentlemen I doff my cap.
More power to the guys, they deserve success. I think it also highlights the level that the Porsche engineers were working at, 50 years ago.
Congratulations to everyone involved in the build and the filming of such an iconic piece of automotive history. 👏👏👏👏
Some cars just look right, some stir the soul but the 917K is just another level, and then add on the amazing history and heritage. What a brilliant endevour to recreate such an amazing machine so close to the no compromise original design and driving feel. The flat-6 sounds great but bring on the 12! Great video and review.
Cooler than a cucumber at absolute zero!
What a brilliant find for the channel and thank you to the talented gents that have designed and built it.
Imagine a garage with one of these, GT40 replica, Lancia Stratos replica….. that’s my lottery garage
Watching it drive down by the Seaside was the best part.
I'm at a loss for words. I don't know what superlatives to use.
Outstanding.
Incredible.
Take your pick from many others.
🤤🤤🤤 Genuine respect to these two lads, that's a startling recreation of one of my favourite cars. Now if I can just persuade the wife to live in a caravan 😋
So amazing to see what is effectively a brand new 917. Understand their goals of pursuing the power figures of the original with the turbos but honestly I think its current form suits me wonderfully - classic looks, real race car handling, 270 HP in 940kg while looking like a BAMF? Sign me up! PS One thing this video needed more of was reactions from passer-by as they see such a unique vehicle go by! I could watch that for an hour I swear.
I'd go as far to say that this project is in no way a recreation but a reproduction. The detail and care put into this project is just so admirable, especially given the childhood fascination with the car.
I remember Pedro Rodriguez and Leo Kinnunen winning in Daytona 24 driving a 917 back in 1970. That was a big thing in Finland then. For me it still is. This re-creation is as iconic as its predecessor so the name of the brand seems to be well deserved. Keep up your good work!
This channel honestly deserves the millions of views. So well filmed and so well edited 👍🏻
I was wondering when the Steve McQueen reference was going to kick in. What a wonderful creation of a Le Mans classic, well done lads, a thing of beauty & a beast one day when there is a flat 12 onboard. 👍
I'm glad people like those two guys, are around and producing things like that in a garage!!
My favorite part of the video @ 13:17 when he goes to start the engine: "C'mon dear!" Made me smile realizing I'm not the only one who does that. :-)
Absolutely love that car. The 917 is truly iconic and seeking them out at events always reaffirms that they’re truly special. I remember being stood behind the “red and white one” (sorry I can’t remember the chassis number and team) at Hampton Court when it was fired up …. Petrolhead nirvana, soaking up the sounds, smells and feeling it generated. My favourite 917 memory was standing at Goodwood on a sunny Saturday afternoon, next to the Steve McQueen car. There was a guy in period correct overalls, shades on, leaning against a stanchion …. Chad McQueen stood next to his dads car, for me that was cooler than a penguins pecker on a cold day.
I’m buying some lottery tickets.
I still feel a little funny just at the thought of the Porsche 917.
What a project, the passion, ingenuity and craftsmanship involved in developing and building this superb recreation. It is clearly a labour of love for Dave and John.
I view it as a sort of tribute to those who designed, built, maintained and raced the original cars.
I need one for drives on warm sunny Sunday mornings.
What a weird world. I saw this car parked along the seafront and had to stop to get a photo. 6 months later, I stumble across the resultant video. Nice.
Wow...now this is a street car to have...absolutely awesome.
Beautiful, beautiful car. Lovingly filmed too Johnny. Like others, I expected a cobbled together car underneath but that is so fantastically overbuilt. I bet you felt safe in it having seen the workmanship first-hand? When the video was ending I had a lump in my throat. Those shed engineers deserve an award.
From some aspects it's half way between a go cart and a normal car, a tad closer to a go cart in several aspects. I have driven a go-cart on the road, fun - yes. Safe? LOL!
I had a surreal experience many years ago whilst working at the FoS at Goodwood that David Piper, Derek Bell and I shared an hour's conversation with the owner of the real, road-going 917 in the paddock. The stories shared were amazing, and David said he liked the Mulsanne straight because, at 220mph no less, he could, "have a bit of a rest.”. The GRP bodywork was so thin it let light through.
I remember reding an article in Autocar about someone who had road-registered a 917. Maybe the man you spoke to.
@@pashakdescilly7517 It was the first time the car had appeared in public for many years. From memory the owner was a German aristocrat. Porsche at Le Man's was the central display that year, maybe '99 or 2000
@@AnagramAutoclassics That chimes some distant bells. The article was late '70s.... I think the car had only minor modification to become road legal.
It’s up there with the Miura. Stunning.
One of the best car shows on CZcams already
Wow! What an absolute stunner, love it! Hats off to the length of engineering involved.
Love the content J, just keeps getting better and the 4k driving shots are first rate. Sam from STG drove a Kraftwerk replica on the street (recreations are out there). The guys that can and want to do these passion projects are a vanishing breed… appreciate them while we can.
I have only seen two of your CZcams Videos (so far), but I must say you are doing a brilliant job. Actually useful information and no hype.
Well done.
These guys at that Giacobbi guy who built his Testarossa, absolute geniuses!
Wow! That is pretty epic. Hats off to the guys who have put in so much time and effort into making this amazing car
As a kid in the 70’s I used to draw this car and was enthralled by its reputation of wheel spinning at 200mph on the Mulsanne straight. The fact it was 3 beetle engines stuck together and my family run around was a bay window people carrier made it even more exclusive. Not bad for blasting down Tone Way. What a joy of a car.
Wow! If my numbers ever come up, Dave & John are gonna know about it!
"Analog, raw, frisky driving experience"... spot on mate!
Thank you so much, brilliant car. And huge thank you to John & Dave - engineering par excellence!!
Fantastic build chaps! Amazing! Thanks for sharing Jonny!
I like it because it's just so raw, yet refined within that rawness.
Didnt think id enjoy this, but simply...WOW... the passion the two guys have for this car is on another level, and the car itself....stunning Jonny
What an inspiration that is. Brilliant work, and great film capturing the passion of it!
What an astonishing creation! Absolutely insane craftsmanship 🤯👏🏼
We have a company in Detroit USA called RCR who makes these, or used to make these, but the chassis is not tube it’s plate aluminum mono structure. This icon 917 is truly artwork.
That is a thing of beauty. Johnny delivers.
Quite amazing. A stunning masterclass of engineering talent.
Having owned and competed in a GT40 replica this work of love is superb! If you like the GT40 you like the 917! I think you are pitching it to cheaply when a Restomod is generally around £300 to £350K. If you succeed with the flat 12 I would say £450K to £500k as a turnkey is realistic and would attract collectors who simply can't buy one anywhere else. Perhaps explore a run of 25 with someone like Tuthill Porsche or David Brown?
It is not a restomod and I think they would be doing them self a disservice to call that a replica car.
They have a car body shell and engineered everything below that.
I could watch a front 3/4 rolling shot of that car all day. Gorgeous.
I saw one of these Porsches parked at Sonoma Raceway when I was there for a superbike school. The car was so tiny and low! It was terrifying. I’m amazed that their was room in the cockpit for Derek Bell’s enormous balls. Hats off.
Absolutely incredible skills and dedication to recreate a legendary car.
Love this! Such an iconic (and stunning) shape
one of my dreams as an engineer was to make a road legal Porsche 917 LeMans car prototype and do it up in Gulf colors livery...
and these guys have actually done it, brilliantly actually... great job...
Bravo! Lucky you...In 2006, I was fortunate to be allowed to drive an original 1966 Porsche 906 Carrera 6 - and it terrified me ! With that ultra-light construction, and tiny tube frame - it looked so spindly, and dangerous. But, on the road, it was a revelation. However, the race spec engine was way to peaky and highly tuned to be usable on the road, and the NOISE ! Every pebble bouncing in the arches, the vibrations rattling every surface of the incredibly thin bodywork, and of course, no silencers with the straight through race exhaust. Wow - I drove about 5 kms in the city, and I still get goosebumps every time I think about it. I can only imagine what it would have been like on the track.
What an absolutely beautiful recreation ❤️ kinda unreal what the lads have achieved tbh
Wow!! bloody excellent stuff, there are some amazing people out there. love it!
For me, the most beautiful and iconic racing car ever, and I had the privilege, I am 68 years old, to see them at Le Mans in the early´s 70 (70 and 71) precisely 917 K´s Herrmann/Attwood and Marko/Van Lennep, if I´m not wrong. Thank you Mr.Jonny Smith for the video.
After viewing the Norwegian Video first THE GULF COLOURS one is SOOOOO much more pleasing. Even so what a beautiful and RAW original design
Thanks for your efforts! I appreciate this amazing bit of engineering.
Absolutely incredible achievement.
Yes building a flat 12 Porsche 917 engine should be the goal. Best sounding engine ever!
I've been in LOVE with the 917 from a very early age, 5 yo I think. My first 917 was a Tyco Curve Hugger slot car. In the sky blue and orange Gulf colors. Such a sexy racecar!
Well...I want one comes to mind. That visceral sound from the flat 6 and the chirrups on the down change are what senses were created for. I truly hope they get some orders in, they thoroughly deserve to that's for sure. Great episode, TLBS gang...I want one...did I mention that already...😄
Thank you Chris. I too hope someone watches this film and is in a position to place an order. Dave and John deserve it!
I have loved the 917 since I was a kid in the 70s. I hoped that Porsche would do as Ford did in 05 with the GT and make a street 917. They could have used the V10 from the Carerra GT.
I remember also there was a kit car you could buy the Lazer 917, I think it used the VW engine.
Just watched this again; God, I love this car
Jonny, how this channel doesnt have several million subscribers is beyond me. So many people claim to be "car guys" yet your channel is still somewhat of a minnow compared to some other channels.
And that 917...wow! The job the gents have done is truly remarkable and the closing scene is that light shows just how beautiful that car is. Kudo's mate on another great vid!
Hmmm, I’d totally have one of those if money was no option.. just to imagine a flat 12 in that gives me shivers.
Yeah me too and I would not lose a moment's sleep over relocating the wife to a caravan.
Goodness me!
That is sublime.
They need to bin that first spare windscreen though, it's marked up as NOK.
I'll look after it and make sure it's not mistaken for a good one. I don't mind.
This vid deserves 1m plus views. Absolutely brilliant
Absolutely love the synthwave music theme you picked for this one!