Great video! I got my first bike there in 2001 when it used to be Bob Dron. Love the footage of Oaktown. I moved to the East Coast in 2006 so this brought back great memories.
Thank you my friend! I actually just took the db killers out of the exhaust a couple of weeks ago and it sounds even better(not super duper loud or anything). Sorry for the 5 month late reply man😅
@@robbyclark6915 I am! When the pandemic hit I didn't end up commuting or even riding too much for a while there. I've probably got about 25k miles on the bike, still digging it! Kinda wish I took the baffles out a while ago though, it really does sound a lot better now. Glad to hear that you're loving that '21 dude!
Hugeeeee fan of your bike! I am surprised at how much I really like the exhaust. The bike looks and sounds absolutely incredible. I think I just made my mind up between a Lowrider S and a FatBob.... so conflicted hahaha
Thanks Jonny! Fatbobs are pretty cool too, but I’m happy I went with the Lowrider S. The exhaust has a different look than you normally see on a Harley, and I personally really dig it, it does sound pretty badass too, baffles currently still in but one of these days I’ll take them out and do video of the difference
Thanks man! It's a cool looking fairing, I'm not sure what my next mod will be yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a new fairing in my not too distant future
Love the bike, just bought same exact one and im going stage 1 for now. But with the 9” risers did you need new cables? Or are those the factory ones still? That is only mod I haven’t ordered yet but desperately need too!
Stage 4 in California? How did you pull it off? My local HD dealer here in California wouldn't even have conversion regarding stage 3 or 4 due to California emission restrictions.
Would you do a video on 0-60 0-100 etc type tests? also a cruising test to see where the rpms are at in each gear at 2k rpms? also how much of a impact did you get on mpgs? if u can compare from what you got before?
Bad ass bike, congratulations! I'm in the bay area too and thinking about buying the 2021 low rider s. My only concern in the lean angle and scraping, I ride a 2015 bmw r1200rt and never scrape anything even when riding super aggressive in the mountains. I rode up and over Mt. Hamilton yesterday and didn't scrape even with extreme lean angles. Anyways I have two questions: How would the Lowrider s do on a road like 130 going over Mt. Hamilton, and how much did the dealership charge you to install the 117 kit? Thanks for your time, cheers!
Mount Hamilton is a great ride! The Low Rider S is not really great in hairpins, the decent down Mount Hamilton after the Lick Observatory is not really ideal for this bike. 130 on the way up would be fine though. You can't lean the bike over all that far before scraping the pegs, which coming from sportier bikes, I wasn't really used to, but since changing the exhaust the pegs are the only things that scrape. I think a little more ground clearance with an upgraded rear shock would go a long way. Just responded to your other comment, can't remember the exact installation cost, but call Oakland HD and ask them, they are pretty helpful over there👍
Nice review man.I'm a sportbike kind of guy but I like the new Harley lineup. I'm definitely considering a Low Rider S. Perfect bike! I live in Cali as well..so, I know we have limited options as far as exhausts. I did see that Two Brother will give you a better performance hp/torque wise but S&A is solid!! great looking and sound wise as well. How tall are you? I'm 5'10 ..when I sat on it I felt a little cramped. I heard from Blockhead that the regular sit of the Low Rider will push you back about 2 inches and makes the riding position a lot better. How do you feel about it as far as comfort-wise? I'm thinking of forward controls since we have a lot of freeway riding here in Cali? Nice review~ ! I love it!
Thank you Remus! I think the bike is pretty comfortable for me, I'm shorter than you though(5'7"). I think a lot of people find the forward foot position comfortable, and for this bike it probably would make you feel less cramped.
They did, this exhaust system is legal in California so it wasn't an issue for the dealership to install it on the bike, you will likely have a hard time fininding a dealership to install the full Akra exhaust on your Super Duke though. If you are on Facebook, check out the Bay Area KTM Club page: facebook.com/groups/298023520742829/ 👍
Good video, Sounds great, lotsa umph, if you take out the baffles it would just allow that stage 4 build to have more higher dyno numbers also, it just gets better, good job.💯🔥👍✌🤘👊😎
I haven't taken them out yet, but I am definitely going to take them out at some point and do a comparison video on it, I imagine it will sound even better. Thanks Jere!
Thanks man! It's the power cam, but the torque has improved a lot over the stock motor, probably the extra displacement helps with that. Yeah, definitely feel it really come on north of 3500, but there is also a lot of low end grunt too.
Sorry just saw this comment! They do not work with the stock bars or cables on the Low Rider S. The bars for it are tapered, if your putting them on in one of the bikes that come with the mini-apes you might be able to get away with stock cables.
About how much was the kit? I just picked up a 2021 low rider S and I love it. I’m having forward controls installed but I’m wondering about the stage 4. Sounds amazing. I can only imagine how it sounds in person.
puts the bar shoulder height if/pulls them back a bit. alot more comfy, sat on the low rider s couple times and being only 5'6 the bars are a little forward for me
I mean what is the difference between using risers with same bars and using longer bars? It seems there are several ways to get lift I'm just wondering why someone would choose x over y. Thx
@Justin Firor I think it's more of an ergonomic and aesthetic choice. Theoretically the rotational mounting point of the handlebars with risers like mine would have less leverage on it than it would if you had apes, but practically I don't think it would really make any difference unless you applied extreme force to the bars like from a crash. I have noticed that the additional leverage from the added length with these risers did seem to make a difference when counter steering over the stock setup
Is the throttle/bike jerkier with stage 4/dyno? Because i like the way it is stock.. its so smooth. Im coming from a sportbike and the jerky throttle is what i disliked the most from sportbikes
They are good! I've had a lot of issues with dealer support on my KTM, so I wanted to make sure that I got my next bike form a dealership that had a good service department. Their customer service is excellent.
Sporting wood..haha jk love that set up those forbidden risers are the way I’m gonna go w the tbr two into one stainless..great video..ride safe out there
I'm totally happy with the Forbidden risers, but tbh if I had to do it over again, I might go a little longer version of them. Still loving them though! Your bike is going to sound sick with that TBR 2 into 1 dude!🤘
I am just using the standard tune from Screamin Eagle, but I also got the auto tuner as well. If you do end up getting yours dyno tuned, make sure that you put the standard tune from Screamin Eagle back on your bike before you get it serviced by a dealer or your warranty will get voided when they hook your bike up to their diagnostic tool. Enjoy that stage 4 kit, it really makes the bike a lot more fun to ride!!!
I haven't dynoed it, I'm pretty curious though. I would like to get it dyno tuned if I can figure out exactly what I need to do to not void the warranty before I bring it in for service. As it is though, I'm pretty happy with the bike as it is currently.
furnimaker If you’re only deviation from standard 117 ci stage 4 is the 50 state legal S&S pipe you shouldn’t need to do anything to retain your warranty. Just take it for a dyno pull. I’ll take a stab at 123 HP 117 TQ at the wheel which would be good for epa tune & warranty bike. I just read of a LRS aftermarket cam & tune 5.5 injectors & non epa pipe did 126 / 131 at the wheel. And a built 128ci LRS that did 161 / 152. That would be hella fast. I know the 30/70 swap on mine made it noticeably quicker. But not something I would recommend without having & aftermarket tuner which voids warranty.
I'm currently still good with the warranty, but if I'm going to get it dyno'd I'd like to actually get it dyno tuned, but I would have to put the screaming eagle tune back on whenever it gets serviced to avoid them from voiding the warranty.
No they are MX bars that are made by that company, they taper from 1 1/4" in the center I believe to 1" on the ends, so all of the controls and grips and everything still fit though
Are you on instagram? I’m thinking about that exhaust but I’d like to see more angles. Also did you have the get all new cables for the new handlebar set up? Thank you. Sweet bike
Thank you! I just started being active on Instagram, but mostly for my horror channel(@cadaver_club), though there will be some bike stuff on their as well from time to time. New cables were required for these risers on the Low Rider S, but I think if you have a Street Bob or something with the mini apes you could get away with the stock cables. I can email you some pictures of the exhaust if you give me your email address
only 3:42 minutes in and i heard putting a stage 3/4 on your bike changes the power band, instead of having all the low down torque like harley is known for, you gotta keep the revs "high" apparently. good if you like shifting more etc saw it in one of Matt laidlaws video i think lol
The current setup has a cam that is optimized for horsepower gains, but the torque is still there, and in fact even with the horsepower cam, this bike still has more torque now than it did in it's stock form.
I saw those mirrors on a video I watched the other day, they looked awesome, but when I went to the site to check them out they had really bad reviews, I guess some people had problems with the LEDs not working after awhile. Still they looked rad though
Kinda hard to say, I’ve been grabbing a handful of throttle every chance I get. Seems about the same as before if your just cruising in 6th on the freeway, but I think riding the way I have been probably somewhere around 30-35 mpg, so not too bad. That’s about the same as my Super Duke
Thanks Daniel! I am 5'7. When I do the video for the bar risers, I'm going to get a shot of me on the bike so people can get a sense of proportion and ergos of the risers
Love the (stock)speed fairing on your bike , If you see a lowrider s then there is a road warrior fairing on it be Different when everyone goes left we go right love it 🤙🏻
I know everyone gets a road warrior fairing, but I actually prefer the look of the stock one personally. How you liking that 131?!? Wish I could have gotten that kit for my bike!
@@furnimaker The 131 is unbelievably so much power at the bottom, I had the 117 on my dyna lowrider s and it was very good too, I wanted the 117 first But then I got the news that the 131 had been approved here in Belgium, otherwise I would have taken the 117 and I was very satisfied with it!
Bike looks good.....I have the same silver S.... originally started off with the the Harley street pro tuner and a Bassani pipe.... nice but I needed more....so I went with the S&s 475 cam and the fuel Moto PV tune (fuel Moto utilized my wide band sensors).... thought I would do the 128 but am more than happy with just the cam.... I think you are leaving a lot on the table with the Harley tune...but it is Probably legal in CA. You should consider putting the Heritage shock to get the tail up a bit.... it’s about an inch. Check out the S&S mini tear drop air cleaner... Enjoy the ride!
I agree, I think the tune could be optimized, I would like to get the bike dyno-tuned, but right now with the current tune I am legal and under warranty though. Harley has been voiding warranties if the bike has a different tune, my understanding is that when a tech attaches the Harley diagnostic tool to your bike it will automatically void the warranty, so I just haven't done anything yet. I definitely would like to address the suspension, a few other people have suggested the Heritage shock, is that what you did with yours?
furnimaker yes, the heritage shock was exactly what I did. They show up on eBay from time to time and it’s a lot less expensive than putting an Ohlins or similar. The bike feels even more nimble with the raise. As far as a tune goes... you have the factory tune on the bike... you have the OEM SE tuner pro... if you put the PowerVision tune on the bike.. it will save the original tune that could simply be put back into place if you need service.
I'm 5'7 so not much taller than you, these feel pretty good, I want to adjust the bars so that I have to reach a little less but this setup is good for me. I wouldn't think you would want to go any taller than this for your bike though
It's kind of hard to say because the added power makes you want to be heavier on the throttle, it hasn't really seemed to make that much of a noticeable difference though
the heat from the actual exhaust isn't bad when you're on the bike riding or stopped at a light. In general, the motor does get you kinda hot in the summer months if you're going slow splitting lanes or at a light, but it's not too crazy.
Rockhead Bikes actually I lied, it’s a 128” and S&S does it. There is one sitting at American Classic Motors in Zieglerville PA for $30k right now lol.
@@furnimaker Was totally trolling anyway. Sick bike nonetheless. This one with the 128" is the only one ive seen done this big and its been sitting for sale since the month they came out, so that says enough.
Uh, sorry to inform you but what you said about the 131 not available in CA, I think you are mistaken because I have a friend that just put a 131 into his CVO and he lives in CA.
I have no doubt that your friend put one in his CVO and that he lives in California, but he wouldn't be able to do it and be legally compliant. I don't think he will have any legal issues come up or anything, I myself have a not exactly California legal full exhaust on my KTM, but you can check the Harley website, the 131 is 49 state compliant, not legal for road use in California. Unfortunately, it wasn't an option that I was able to get from the dealer when I purchased the bike, I wish it was though. I bet your friend is loving that 131, that thing seems beastly!!!
I did a lot of searching to see if it had become legal yet, and every press release I saw as recent as 2 weeks ago and even on the Harley website says that it is only 49 state legal, and not legal for road use in California. I specifically asked the dealership about it too and they said it wasn't legal for them to do it to my bike, I believe if it was they would have taken the extra money to do it. Did he do the stage 4 kit or the crate motor? Either way your friend is lucky to have it in his bike, I bet it's a blast to ride👍
Its exactly what I ride down to the Colour.. The Forwards will give you much more clearance so if you're limited by mids why Not have the Best of both worlds , I'm 5" 9 with a 32" inseam and find them Perfect..I scraped the mids during Demo but not the Forwards even through Canyons..I compare the lean angle to my previous 18 Roadster which had the best lean of Any HD.. Also pipes aren't just about volume But exhaust the heat from engine and thus improve efficiency and reliability.. And we here in Australia have the 143 ci kit that is 475 cc extra..Google Alpha performance engines.
I think I'm going to more likely be upgrading the suspension components at some point rather than changing peg position. I personally like the ergos of the mids, though I imagine that I would probably get used to front controls too if I changed them, and if I was more into long distance touring they would probably be more comfortable in the long run too. There are a lot of factors that go into exhaust systems that can improve performance like scavenging and whatnot, but the biggest impact on just the joy of riding for me is sound, and for filtering I find that having more volume really makes a huge difference for me. The pipes as they are(with the baffles in) aren't offensively loud, but they definitely sound good and the traffic around me can hear me which is important to me for my commute. Being in California I was pretty limited with what I could legally put on the bike, I basically had 2 choices available from the Harley dealership, both S&S 50 state legal exhausts. I do have a full exhaust Akra exhaust on my KTM that isn't exactly legal for road use here, but just decided to keep it legal on the Harley. A 143 ci kit sounds beastly!!!! I checked A.P.E out, they were putting up some really impressive numbers! Do you have one of their kits?
@@furnimaker Hey thanks for reply,,,No I don't have the big 143 kit but I'm very happy as is of the Performance of this bike,,if I was to do anything in the future it would Only be a Cam ,possibly torque cam. As for the Slip ons - they are as close to legal and sound great without being Obnoxious.. My previous VnH short shots were pretty loud and I was always a bit worried bout the law ,,the Eliminators 300 sound as close to a full system when Crack the Throttle. Totally Love Our Bikes. Ride Safe Dude..
I don’t understand that lane splitting or whatever it is you guys do? What happens when someone opens their door to spit or something or just decides they want in the next lane because they’re going to miss the turn. Doesn’t seem safe at all🤷♂️
That's why I prefer a louder exhaust, other drivers are more cognizant that you are there if they can hear you. The drivers around here are very used to seeing motorcyclists splitting lanes, and are very cool about it, especially during morning and evening rush hour. Most will go out of there way to give you a little extra room.
Oaktown, bayyybayy! You rode right past Clove & Hoof. Next vid of bike without baffles, please grab a double bacon cheeseburger with beef tallow fries. It's a sin to ride past it and not get one 🍻 I'm amazed that you're 5'7. I'm the same height and when I first saw this bike I swore it'd be for people over 6 ft. This won't be my first bike, but almost certainly my second.
East Bay all day! Clove and Hoof is good, I haven't tried the burgers there though, just the cheese steak. The Harley's all have really low seat height, I'm easily able to flat foot it on the Low Rider S. The seat height on my KTM is like 8 inches higher though, with that one I'm on the balls of feet, but it's still really manageable. Lower seat height will probably make you feel more confident and stable on your first bike, but once you get more comfortable with motorcycles I don't think a bike with a higher seat height will bother you much. What are planning on getting for your first bike?
furnimaker Iron 883 with eventual conversion to Hammer 1250. I'm only torn because the Iron 1200 comes in Twisted Cherry and I don't know if I can repaint the 883. Second option: Honda CB1100 RS, because I hear it's one of the easiest liter bikes to ride. I like the Scout Bobber, too, but digging the Harley sportster look a bit more.
@@dickjohnson5025 please don't be a dick,ok Dick. He loves his new bike with the stage 4 kit. Lucky for you that nobody is forcing you to like it or to buy one. Ride safe
There are a few different schools of thought on how to break in engines, but the manufacturers always tell you to take it easy for like 1000 miles or so. Others advocate a hard break in, and yet others say just ride it the way you plan on riding it during the break in. Modern manufacturing methods these days allow for tighter and more consistent tolerances, and I personally think that nowadays how you break in an engine doesn't have quite the same impact on performance and longeveity as it used to. Ultimately though people seem to feel as strongly about their preferred method of breaking in as they do about what motor oil they use in their bike, it's a hot topic of debate amongst people.
@@CactusJack252 100000% just did it on mine. 1k service also done by yours truly. First bike too so if i can you can. Maybe wait till about 150/200 mi. to go above 5k though. Engine and transmission had virtually no metal on plug and crank had a wee bit. Looking like finely bored out cylinders and rings.
We should reimagine the "break in period" to be the time immediately after buying it where you dog the shit out of it and see if you can break it in the first few thousand miles.
I think they should come Stage 1 from factory. All it needed (it comes with high flow intake) is exhaust and tune. It’s my first bike and it’s my Harley. I wanted my Harley to sound and feel like a Harley. If imma spend 19k, I’d rather spend 20 (like I did) on a Stage 1.
Every bike comes stock with super quiet exhaust unfortunately, but it's definitely well worth it to upgrade to an aftermarket system. I think I remember you saying that it had the TBR 2 to 1 on it, I bet it sounds amazing!
furnimaker oh man it roars. It also keeps the rear wheel open like you said so it’s why I wanted it and not a Basani or Cobra. I’d be curious how much my 114 Stage 1 would keep up with yours actually. It feels and sounds like a savage beast.
I do have a 117 stage 4 kit installed on the bike. When I got the stage 4 kit, the 131 wasn't legal in CA, only the 117 was approved here. Not sure if the 131 is 50 state legal yet or not. Sorry for the super late reply dude!
I looked it up, but didn’t find the dyno numbers. This stage 4 kit is covered by the factory warranty though, so for me I’m glad to have that piece of mind.
First time watching and the intro is too funny lmao, great video
😂Thanks man!
She is looking fierce looks stunning where you drove through too.. glad you happy 😌🖤
You look fierce and stunning darling😘
Great video! I got my first bike there in 2001 when it used to be Bob Dron. Love the footage of Oaktown. I moved to the East Coast in 2006 so this brought back great memories.
Thanks dude! Yeah, I love Oakland, I moved here in 2003 and have never really wanted to move since. 👍
Looking forward to more videos!! That bike looks like alot of fun.
Mike Essary thank you Mike! It is a lot of fun, I’m hoping to get back to making more videos when things get a little more back to normal
It sounds just absolutely incredible!! Perfect soundtrack on that exhaust!!
Thank you my friend! I actually just took the db killers out of the exhaust a couple of weeks ago and it sounds even better(not super duper loud or anything). Sorry for the 5 month late reply man😅
@@furnimaker No worries. Hope you’re still enjoying that bike! I got myself a ‘21 model a few months back and am loving it.
@@robbyclark6915 I am! When the pandemic hit I didn't end up commuting or even riding too much for a while there. I've probably got about 25k miles on the bike, still digging it! Kinda wish I took the baffles out a while ago though, it really does sound a lot better now. Glad to hear that you're loving that '21 dude!
Congrats on ur new bike. Really cool 👍
Thank you James!
Holy shit!! That is wicked i just love the look of your bike man the sliver and black is sharp
Thanks Frank! I liked the silver too. The black one is nice too, but personally I like the contrast of the black and silver on this one
awesome sounding and looking bike.Love those pipes! Enjoy it!
Thanks Carl, I am, it's a blast to ride now!
Hugeeeee fan of your bike! I am surprised at how much I really like the exhaust. The bike looks and sounds absolutely incredible. I think I just made my mind up between a Lowrider S and a FatBob.... so conflicted hahaha
Thanks Jonny! Fatbobs are pretty cool too, but I’m happy I went with the Lowrider S. The exhaust has a different look than you normally see on a Harley, and I personally really dig it, it does sound pretty badass too, baffles currently still in but one of these days I’ll take them out and do video of the difference
That's one badass bike great job man just subbed
Thank you man! Welcome to the channel!
Very nice! I got mine Saturday! Stage 1. She’s a monster!
Awesome dude! Enjoy that bike!!!
Sounds great I’d love my heritage to sound like that
Thanks Steve! I really like the way these S&S pipes sound!
Everything about this bike is just excellent , that power and sound man 👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪
I'm definitely digging it man, thanks!
I'll be waiting for more videos , take care man
I'm hoping to get the bar riser video done soonish, It's been kinda rainy here lately
Congrats nothing better than a kid with a brand new toy! Ride safe ride hard
Thanks Carlo, I will!
Love it! Just Subbed. I hope to see more videos of you riding around. Enjoy!
Thank you my friend!
Looking and sounding awesome. Now, with the taller bars, have you given any thought to the new H-D Quarter Fairing for sortails?
Thanks man! It's a cool looking fairing, I'm not sure what my next mod will be yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a new fairing in my not too distant future
Me: “one more video and I’m going to bed”
Intro: LMAO OK
Thanks Austin!
Love the bike, just bought same exact one and im going stage 1 for now. But with the 9” risers did you need new cables? Or are those the factory ones still? That is only mod I haven’t ordered yet but desperately need too!
It's an awesome bike, I'm loving it too! Needed to get new cables, clutch and brake. I'm totally digging these risers though!
Stage 4 in California? How did you pull it off? My local HD dealer here in California wouldn't even have conversion regarding stage 3 or 4 due to California emission restrictions.
Congratulations on the stage 4.
Thanks man!
Didn't know you were in the Bay ! Gotta go for a ride one of these days brotha !!! Also got a 2020 Low Rider S and enjoy every ride
Hell yeah dude, always down to ride!
Would you do a video on 0-60 0-100 etc type tests? also a cruising test to see where the rpms are at in each gear at 2k rpms? also how much of a impact did you get on mpgs? if u can compare from what you got before?
I'll see if I can try to get some of that info into one of my videos
You’re back 😃👍
I am! Been camped out on the other channel for a bit, but it feels good to be making some moto videos again!
Bad ass bike, congratulations!
I'm in the bay area too and thinking about buying the 2021 low rider s. My only concern in the lean angle and scraping, I ride a 2015 bmw r1200rt and never scrape anything even when riding super aggressive in the mountains. I rode up and over Mt. Hamilton yesterday and didn't scrape even with extreme lean angles. Anyways I have two questions:
How would the Lowrider s do on a road like 130 going over Mt. Hamilton, and how much did the dealership charge you to install the 117 kit?
Thanks for your time, cheers!
Mount Hamilton is a great ride! The Low Rider S is not really great in hairpins, the decent down Mount Hamilton after the Lick Observatory is not really ideal for this bike. 130 on the way up would be fine though. You can't lean the bike over all that far before scraping the pegs, which coming from sportier bikes, I wasn't really used to, but since changing the exhaust the pegs are the only things that scrape. I think a little more ground clearance with an upgraded rear shock would go a long way. Just responded to your other comment, can't remember the exact installation cost, but call Oakland HD and ask them, they are pretty helpful over there👍
Nice review man.I'm a sportbike kind of guy but I like the new Harley lineup. I'm definitely considering a Low Rider S. Perfect bike! I live in Cali as well..so, I know we have limited options as far as exhausts. I did see that Two Brother will give you a better performance hp/torque wise but S&A is solid!! great looking and sound wise as well. How tall are you? I'm 5'10 ..when I sat on it I felt a little cramped. I heard from Blockhead that the regular sit of the Low Rider will push you back about 2 inches and makes the riding position a lot better. How do you feel about it as far as comfort-wise? I'm thinking of forward controls since we have a lot of freeway riding here in Cali? Nice review~ ! I love it!
Thank you Remus! I think the bike is pretty comfortable for me, I'm shorter than you though(5'7"). I think a lot of people find the forward foot position comfortable, and for this bike it probably would make you feel less cramped.
How’d u get Oakland to do an exhaust?
Oakland Harley installed the pipes for you? I'm in the Bay Area too and have the Super Duke... thought dealers won't touch exhaust in CA?
They did, this exhaust system is legal in California so it wasn't an issue for the dealership to install it on the bike, you will likely have a hard time fininding a dealership to install the full Akra exhaust on your Super Duke though. If you are on Facebook, check out the Bay Area KTM Club page: facebook.com/groups/298023520742829/ 👍
Good video,
Sounds great, lotsa umph, if you take out the baffles it would just allow that stage 4 build to have more higher dyno numbers also, it just gets better, good job.💯🔥👍✌🤘👊😎
I haven't taken them out yet, but I am definitely going to take them out at some point and do a comparison video on it, I imagine it will sound even better. Thanks Jere!
Enjoy man I have the same in black stage 4 and its a beast for sure....
Hell yeah dude, the black looks nice too! Enjoy that bike my friend!
Looks good. Did you go with a power cam or a torque cam? Looks like you’re getting a big bump at around 3500rpm?
Thanks man! It's the power cam, but the torque has improved a lot over the stock motor, probably the extra displacement helps with that. Yeah, definitely feel it really come on north of 3500, but there is also a lot of low end grunt too.
Thinking about ordering those risers. Do they work with the stock bars/cables?
Sorry just saw this comment! They do not work with the stock bars or cables on the Low Rider S. The bars for it are tapered, if your putting them on in one of the bikes that come with the mini-apes you might be able to get away with stock cables.
About how much was the kit? I just picked up a 2021 low rider S and I love it. I’m having forward controls installed but I’m wondering about the stage 4. Sounds amazing. I can only imagine how it sounds in person.
I think it was about 6k if I remember correctly. It really makes the bike a lot more fun to ride, I recommend getting it if you can👍
Just got a quite for Stage 4 low rider S at local Houston Harley. Just a little under $5k installed. Getting soon!
Dude, super sorry for the crazy late reply! Hope you're digging that stage 4 low rider!
Awesome bro so sick
Thanks Brad!
Forgive my ignorance but what's the difference in riding dynamics between adding risers vs taller bars vs whatever else raises your hands up?
puts the bar shoulder height if/pulls them back a bit. alot more comfy, sat on the low rider s couple times and being only 5'6 the bars are a little forward for me
I mean what is the difference between using risers with same bars and using longer bars? It seems there are several ways to get lift I'm just wondering why someone would choose x over y. Thx
@Justin Firor I think it's more of an ergonomic and aesthetic choice. Theoretically the rotational mounting point of the handlebars with risers like mine would have less leverage on it than it would if you had apes, but practically I don't think it would really make any difference unless you applied extreme force to the bars like from a crash. I have noticed that the additional leverage from the added length with these risers did seem to make a difference when counter steering over the stock setup
Is the throttle/bike jerkier with stage 4/dyno? Because i like the way it is stock.. its so smooth. Im coming from a sportbike and the jerky throttle is what i disliked the most from sportbikes
It's a bit more responsive, but it's not a super fast revving motor or anything, and I haven't found it to be jerky at all
I am a new sub this video got my attention, will definently watch other channel vids.
💯🔥👍✌🤘👊😎
Thanks man, welcome!
sick ride, brotha. I'm in SF looking to pick up one of these soon.
Nice dude! I'd definitely recommend Oakland HD, I had a good experience there👍
furnimaker Ended up buying from SF dealership. How’s Oakland’s service department? SF dealerships have been hit and miss.
They are good! I've had a lot of issues with dealer support on my KTM, so I wanted to make sure that I got my next bike form a dealership that had a good service department. Their customer service is excellent.
Sporting wood..haha jk love that set up those forbidden risers are the way I’m gonna go w the tbr two into one stainless..great video..ride safe out there
I'm totally happy with the Forbidden risers, but tbh if I had to do it over again, I might go a little longer version of them. Still loving them though! Your bike is going to sound sick with that TBR 2 into 1 dude!🤘
Great bike! I am about to do the stage 4 as well. did you tune yours on a Dyno or are you using a tuner?
I am just using the standard tune from Screamin Eagle, but I also got the auto tuner as well. If you do end up getting yours dyno tuned, make sure that you put the standard tune from Screamin Eagle back on your bike before you get it serviced by a dealer or your warranty will get voided when they hook your bike up to their diagnostic tool. Enjoy that stage 4 kit, it really makes the bike a lot more fun to ride!!!
@stephentherarabear That's what I've heard too
Looove!!! I like everything you did to the bike! You have good taste 👌
Thank you my friend!
Do you have to build thru the stages or can you just go straight to stage 4?
Super duper late response, sorry about that! The Stage 4 came with everything I needed, I didn't have to build up to it or anything.
Great vid :)
Thank you Chancebozey!
Exhaust sounds great. Did they advise to do the 2,500rpm 55mph and under for the first 500 miles to break in the engine?
Thanks MojoMan Murph, I'm loving the new exhaust! The only thing they said was try not to rev it much past 3000 rpm for 1000 miles.
Its a Harley, does it matter?
Dick Johnson Keyboard warrior ✊🏼
That was Redwood Road between Castro Valley and Oakland, right?
And, I just bought this bike! I’m going to be doing very similar stuff.
That’s the one, I love that road!!! Congrats on your new bike Andrew!🤘
Any idea what this is making for horsepower and torque?
I haven’t had it dyno’d or anything so not really sure.
Is that really 70+ top of 2nd? Sounds amazing 🤙
Yes it is, thank you my friend!
Lol after commenting on an older video of this bike I find the newer video post stage kit & muffs. If you dynoed it how did she do?
I haven't dynoed it, I'm pretty curious though. I would like to get it dyno tuned if I can figure out exactly what I need to do to not void the warranty before I bring it in for service. As it is though, I'm pretty happy with the bike as it is currently.
furnimaker If you’re only deviation from standard 117 ci stage 4 is the 50 state legal S&S pipe you shouldn’t need to do anything to retain your warranty. Just take it for a dyno pull. I’ll take a stab at 123 HP 117 TQ at the wheel which would be good for epa tune & warranty bike.
I just read of a LRS aftermarket cam & tune 5.5 injectors & non epa pipe did 126 / 131 at the wheel. And a built 128ci LRS that did 161 / 152. That would be hella fast.
I know the 30/70 swap on mine made it noticeably quicker. But not something I would recommend without having & aftermarket tuner which voids warranty.
I'm currently still good with the warranty, but if I'm going to get it dyno'd I'd like to actually get it dyno tuned, but I would have to put the screaming eagle tune back on whenever it gets serviced to avoid them from voiding the warranty.
furnimaker Eh they dyno tuned mine with the SE-PSTuner you don’t need an aftermarket tuner to tune it on a dyno.
Awesome bike love it
Thank you my friend!
Love your style man .!! More vids pls 👊🏻
wow. fantastic bike... I want one!
Thank you man! I'm very happy with it👍
Did you keep original handlebars when you swapped out the risers?
No they are MX bars that are made by that company, they taper from 1 1/4" in the center I believe to 1" on the ends, so all of the controls and grips and everything still fit though
Are you on instagram?
I’m thinking about that exhaust but I’d like to see more angles.
Also did you have the get all new cables for the new handlebar set up?
Thank you.
Sweet bike
Thank you! I just started being active on Instagram, but mostly for my horror channel(@cadaver_club), though there will be some bike stuff on their as well from time to time. New cables were required for these risers on the Low Rider S, but I think if you have a Street Bob or something with the mini apes you could get away with the stock cables. I can email you some pictures of the exhaust if you give me your email address
furnimaker that’ll be great thank you, where did you get the cables from? I’m going 12” up but my cables won’t cut it. Thank you
aldrhelios@yahoo.com.
Sent some pics dude👍
Also got the cables from the dealership
5:48 Best part of the whole video
Do you know if the factory bars are knurled?
Actually, I'm not sure if they are or not
only 3:42 minutes in and i heard putting a stage 3/4 on your bike changes the power band, instead of having all the low down torque like harley is known for, you gotta keep the revs "high" apparently. good if you like shifting more etc saw it in one of Matt laidlaws video i think lol
The current setup has a cam that is optimized for horsepower gains, but the torque is still there, and in fact even with the horsepower cam, this bike still has more torque now than it did in it's stock form.
You should instal led mirrors (turn signal) and mini led blinkers. Then the bike is complete ⚡️👌🏻
I saw those mirrors on a video I watched the other day, they looked awesome, but when I went to the site to check them out they had really bad reviews, I guess some people had problems with the LEDs not working after awhile. Still they looked rad though
Just curious did you upgrade your air ventilator?
I didn't, it's the same high flow one that came on the stock low rider. sorry for the year late reply man!
What model brand risers are those?
The brand is Forbidden Motorcycle 👍
Cool bike n dig it whole alot.... what is MPG like?
Kinda hard to say, I’ve been grabbing a handful of throttle every chance I get. Seems about the same as before if your just cruising in 6th on the freeway, but I think riding the way I have been probably somewhere around 30-35 mpg, so not too bad. That’s about the same as my Super Duke
Your bike is super badass amigo 👌🏻 about how tall are you ? Trying to get size of person visual for bike setup .
Thanks Daniel! I am 5'7. When I do the video for the bar risers, I'm going to get a shot of me on the bike so people can get a sense of proportion and ergos of the risers
furnimaker can’t wait for it bro . I dig your vids man . Good shit 🤘🏻 your bike is insanely badass . Best setup I’ve seen hands down no bs on CZcams .
Thanks man, I appreciate that!
More torque through out the rev range , more power at higher rpms , bad ass bike I want one .
I’m stoked with it, you won’t be disappointed if you get one I think👍
Badass Bike! What did the Stage 4 cost out the door?
Thanks dude! The kit and install was a little over 5k and the exhaust was 1k
Love the (stock)speed fairing on your bike , If you see a lowrider s then there is a road warrior fairing on it be Different when everyone goes left we go right love it 🤙🏻
I know everyone gets a road warrior fairing, but I actually prefer the look of the stock one personally. How you liking that 131?!? Wish I could have gotten that kit for my bike!
@@furnimaker The 131 is unbelievably so much power at the bottom, I had the 117 on my dyna lowrider s and it was very good too, I wanted the 117 first
But then I got the news that the 131 had been approved here in Belgium, otherwise I would have taken the 117 and I was very satisfied with it!
I wish the 131 had been approved here, but as you said I'm satisfied with the 117! Happy Holidays my friend!
@@furnimaker Ride it like you stole it , happy holidays friend 🥂
Bike looks good.....I have the same silver S.... originally started off with the the Harley street pro tuner and a Bassani pipe.... nice but I needed more....so I went with the S&s 475 cam and the fuel Moto PV tune (fuel Moto utilized my wide band sensors).... thought I would do the 128 but am more than happy with just the cam.... I think you are leaving a lot on the table with the Harley tune...but it is Probably legal in CA.
You should consider putting the Heritage shock to get the tail up a bit.... it’s about an inch. Check out the S&S mini tear drop air cleaner...
Enjoy the ride!
I agree, I think the tune could be optimized, I would like to get the bike dyno-tuned, but right now with the current tune I am legal and under warranty though. Harley has been voiding warranties if the bike has a different tune, my understanding is that when a tech attaches the Harley diagnostic tool to your bike it will automatically void the warranty, so I just haven't done anything yet. I definitely would like to address the suspension, a few other people have suggested the Heritage shock, is that what you did with yours?
furnimaker yes, the heritage shock was exactly what I did. They show up on eBay from time to time and it’s a lot less expensive than putting an Ohlins or similar. The bike feels even more nimble with the raise. As far as a tune goes... you have the factory tune on the bike... you have the OEM SE tuner pro... if you put the PowerVision tune on the bike.. it will save the original tune that could simply be put back into place if you need service.
get some rogue rider ind. LEDs for your turn signals, with dark smoked lenses. would look sick on this bike.
I've seen some Low Rider S's with smoked turn signals, they do look sick!
Sock ride, what was the total damage $$ for the build?
I’m wondering the same. The gray looks sick on this bike
I rode that bike in Los Santos. I dug it.
It's a totally different style bike than I'm used to, but I'm digging it too!
Did the top mph increases?
I don't think so
just curious how tall you are? i think myself being 5'6 this bar height should be perfect lol hopefully
I'm 5'7 so not much taller than you, these feel pretty good, I want to adjust the bars so that I have to reach a little less but this setup is good for me. I wouldn't think you would want to go any taller than this for your bike though
@@furnimaker what is the setup?
@@dynarider8661 It's the 9" Forbidden Motorcycle risers and bars, I'm digging them, I'll be doing a video on them soon👍
Hell yeah, nice
Thanks man!
Doing This stage 4 does impact on gas mileage, MPG?
It's kind of hard to say because the added power makes you want to be heavier on the throttle, it hasn't really seemed to make that much of a noticeable difference though
What MPG do you normally get with Stage 4?
Hii ok es the heat tgat comes off of the exhaust and motor
the heat from the actual exhaust isn't bad when you're on the bike riding or stopped at a light. In general, the motor does get you kinda hot in the summer months if you're going slow splitting lanes or at a light, but it's not too crazy.
How much for the upgrade?
It was a little more than 5k for the kit and install, another 1k for the exhaust
What bars do you have?
The risers are Forbidden Motorcycle and the bars themselves are a collaboration between Forbidden and Fly
What did it Dyno tune?
I haven't had it dyno tuned, just using the tune from Screamin eagle for now
Fuck yea.. That Slayer is dope \m/
\m/ FCKN SLAYER \m/
Damn the 117 and not the 124"? That dealership def can't wait for you to come back now. haha
who makes the 124 for this bike?
Rockhead Bikes actually I lied, it’s a 128” and S&S does it. There is one sitting at American Classic Motors in Zieglerville PA for $30k right now lol.
@TheeGreat0ne This was the the kit that would keep me in the factory warranty and street legal in California. I wouldn’t mind more displacement though
@@furnimaker Was totally trolling anyway. Sick bike nonetheless. This one with the 128" is the only one ive seen done this big and its been sitting for sale since the month they came out, so that says enough.
Uh, sorry to inform you but what you said about the 131 not available in CA, I think you are mistaken because I have a friend that just put a 131 into his CVO and he lives in CA.
I have no doubt that your friend put one in his CVO and that he lives in California, but he wouldn't be able to do it and be legally compliant. I don't think he will have any legal issues come up or anything, I myself have a not exactly California legal full exhaust on my KTM, but you can check the Harley website, the 131 is 49 state compliant, not legal for road use in California. Unfortunately, it wasn't an option that I was able to get from the dealer when I purchased the bike, I wish it was though. I bet your friend is loving that 131, that thing seems beastly!!!
@@furnimaker he bought it brand new from a HD here in San Marcos so I'm quite sure its legal here. Maybe not until recently but it is now.
@@furnimaker I honestly doubt a dealer would offer it if it wasn't legal here. They could put their dealership at risk by doing something illegal.
I did a lot of searching to see if it had become legal yet, and every press release I saw as recent as 2 weeks ago and even on the Harley website says that it is only 49 state legal, and not legal for road use in California. I specifically asked the dealership about it too and they said it wasn't legal for them to do it to my bike, I believe if it was they would have taken the extra money to do it. Did he do the stage 4 kit or the crate motor? Either way your friend is lucky to have it in his bike, I bet it's a blast to ride👍
Swap and flip them mirrors upside down! Less vibration and your bike won’t look like MickeyMouse! Sounds awesome homie 💯💯
Thanks Alfredo! I do like the way the upside down mirrors look
Its exactly what I ride down to the Colour.. The Forwards will give you much more clearance so if you're limited by mids why Not have the Best of both worlds , I'm 5" 9 with a 32" inseam and find them Perfect..I scraped the mids during Demo but not the Forwards even through Canyons..I compare the lean angle to my previous 18 Roadster which had the best lean of Any HD.. Also pipes aren't just about volume But exhaust the heat from engine and thus improve efficiency and reliability.. And we here in Australia have the 143 ci kit that is 475 cc extra..Google Alpha performance engines.
I think I'm going to more likely be upgrading the suspension components at some point rather than changing peg position. I personally like the ergos of the mids, though I imagine that I would probably get used to front controls too if I changed them, and if I was more into long distance touring they would probably be more comfortable in the long run too. There are a lot of factors that go into exhaust systems that can improve performance like scavenging and whatnot, but the biggest impact on just the joy of riding for me is sound, and for filtering I find that having more volume really makes a huge difference for me. The pipes as they are(with the baffles in) aren't offensively loud, but they definitely sound good and the traffic around me can hear me which is important to me for my commute. Being in California I was pretty limited with what I could legally put on the bike, I basically had 2 choices available from the Harley dealership, both S&S 50 state legal exhausts. I do have a full exhaust Akra exhaust on my KTM that isn't exactly legal for road use here, but just decided to keep it legal on the Harley. A 143 ci kit sounds beastly!!!! I checked A.P.E out, they were putting up some really impressive numbers! Do you have one of their kits?
@@furnimaker Hey thanks for reply,,,No I don't have the big 143 kit but I'm very happy as is of the Performance of this bike,,if I was to do anything in the future it would Only be a Cam ,possibly torque cam. As for the Slip ons - they are as close to legal and sound great without being Obnoxious.. My previous VnH short shots were pretty loud and I was always a bit worried bout the law ,,the Eliminators 300 sound as close to a full system when Crack the Throttle. Totally Love Our Bikes. Ride Safe Dude..
They are great bikes, you ride safe too my friend!
You used the screamin eagle tuner?
I did, I got the smart tune pro too
Cuz I’m trying to decide to go smart tune or say fuck it and go power vision
i have the s&s grand national too on my low rider s. :D
They look and sound awesome man! Did you remove the baffles on yours?
@@furnimaker yes! The sound is sick without the baffles
Are those the stock handlebars👌🏻
They are not the stock ones, they are Forbidden Motorcycle bars and risers.
🤘⚡️🤘 bad azz!!!!!!
Hell yeah! I saw your Low Rider S in one of your videos a while back BTW, I like what you've done to it!
furnimaker thanks. Hope to see you out there some day. 🤘⚡️🤘
I don’t understand that lane splitting or whatever it is you guys do? What happens when someone opens their door to spit or something or just decides they want in the next lane because they’re going to miss the turn.
Doesn’t seem safe at all🤷♂️
Tim Miller Totally agree. I would not do it even if it was legal in my state. “An accident looking for a place to happen”
That's why I prefer a louder exhaust, other drivers are more cognizant that you are there if they can hear you. The drivers around here are very used to seeing motorcyclists splitting lanes, and are very cool about it, especially during morning and evening rush hour. Most will go out of there way to give you a little extra room.
Lane splitting and filtering is statistically better and safer. The rest of the world does it. All of America should do it too.
@Jacob James Preach brother!
@@CactusJack252 Where can I get the stats?
Oaktown, bayyybayy! You rode right past Clove & Hoof. Next vid of bike without baffles, please grab a double bacon cheeseburger with beef tallow fries. It's a sin to ride past it and not get one 🍻
I'm amazed that you're 5'7. I'm the same height and when I first saw this bike I swore it'd be for people over 6 ft. This won't be my first bike, but almost certainly my second.
East Bay all day! Clove and Hoof is good, I haven't tried the burgers there though, just the cheese steak. The Harley's all have really low seat height, I'm easily able to flat foot it on the Low Rider S. The seat height on my KTM is like 8 inches higher though, with that one I'm on the balls of feet, but it's still really manageable. Lower seat height will probably make you feel more confident and stable on your first bike, but once you get more comfortable with motorcycles I don't think a bike with a higher seat height will bother you much. What are planning on getting for your first bike?
furnimaker Iron 883 with eventual conversion to Hammer 1250. I'm only torn because the Iron 1200 comes in Twisted Cherry and I don't know if I can repaint the 883. Second option: Honda CB1100 RS, because I hear it's one of the easiest liter bikes to ride. I like the Scout Bobber, too, but digging the Harley sportster look a bit more.
Iron 883 is a kickass first bike dude, they really nailed the styling on that one!
Did they put it on the dyno? if so hp/tq?
It hasn't been dyno'd, if I ever do though, I will definitely do a video on it and post the numbers
Stage 4 gets you just a little over 100hp. Still slow
Dick Johnson Not sure what your talking about 🙈
@@dickjohnson5025 please don't be a dick,ok Dick. He loves his new bike with the stage 4 kit. Lucky for you that nobody is forcing you to like it or to buy one. Ride safe
I have the same setup FM risers but with 2 to 1 Bassani pipes stage 1
Nice! How are you liking the FM risers?
Love them and I installed the road warriors fair
Grizzly Peak Ride!!
Hell yeah! Redwood Road to Skyline to Grizzly Peak is such a good ride!!!
Are you not supposed to take it easy for the first 50miles ?😲
There are a few different schools of thought on how to break in engines, but the manufacturers always tell you to take it easy for like 1000 miles or so. Others advocate a hard break in, and yet others say just ride it the way you plan on riding it during the break in. Modern manufacturing methods these days allow for tighter and more consistent tolerances, and I personally think that nowadays how you break in an engine doesn't have quite the same impact on performance and longeveity as it used to. Ultimately though people seem to feel as strongly about their preferred method of breaking in as they do about what motor oil they use in their bike, it's a hot topic of debate amongst people.
Intro made me sub to funny
😂Thanks dude!
Always feels faster when it’s loud lol
Yeah it does!😆
Still have bike? Cool vids
Thank you, I do!
so much for the break in period lol
😂too tempting to not get on it a little bit
The best way to break them in is hard. Let the motor warm up and ride it hard. It will set the piston rings and stuff in quickly.
@@CactusJack252 100000% just did it on mine. 1k service also done by yours truly. First bike too so if i can you can. Maybe wait till about 150/200 mi. to go above 5k though. Engine and transmission had virtually no metal on plug and crank had a wee bit. Looking like finely bored out cylinders and rings.
We should reimagine the "break in period" to be the time immediately after buying it where you dog the shit out of it and see if you can break it in the first few thousand miles.
I think they should come Stage 1 from factory. All it needed (it comes with high flow intake) is exhaust and tune. It’s my first bike and it’s my Harley. I wanted my Harley to sound and feel like a Harley. If imma spend 19k, I’d rather spend 20 (like I did) on a Stage 1.
Every bike comes stock with super quiet exhaust unfortunately, but it's definitely well worth it to upgrade to an aftermarket system. I think I remember you saying that it had the TBR 2 to 1 on it, I bet it sounds amazing!
furnimaker oh man it roars. It also keeps the rear wheel open like you said so it’s why I wanted it and not a Basani or Cobra. I’d be curious how much my 114 Stage 1 would keep up with yours actually. It feels and sounds like a savage beast.
Stage 4 is 131, no? 117 is stage 2?
I do have a 117 stage 4 kit installed on the bike. When I got the stage 4 kit, the 131 wasn't legal in CA, only the 117 was approved here. Not sure if the 131 is 50 state legal yet or not. Sorry for the super late reply dude!
so coming from sports and sports naked bikes, do you understand harley lovers now specially with the new pipes you have.
I've always liked Harleys. For many years I wasn't able to afford one, but now that I can I'm stoked.👍
11:18 yeah but they'd charge $30k MSRP for it
They probably would, but if they were able to get it down to $20-25k I bet they would sell plenty of them
The new wood performance cam literally makes more power than this, look it up I only get my stuff from fuel moto
I looked it up, but didn’t find the dyno numbers. This stage 4 kit is covered by the factory warranty though, so for me I’m glad to have that piece of mind.
Concur!