Yeah but guys the 600,000 doesnt just go to making the car faster, alot of that money goes to keeping the car light but making super durable to handle 6ft jumps and the torture of rally racing without breaking parts.
600k isn't buying you speed, its buying you a car that can jump 50 meters without even breaking a sweat. Try that in an OEM STi, you will be collecting the remnants of the car into a bin, if you survive.
hahaha well said, plus the price of the WRC includes development cost as they are built and tested, modified and tested again. It takes many, many months for a group of engineers and drivers to come up (from scratch) with what we are watching above. They're all hand built, using exotic materials, I mean comparing these is pointless:)
+wisniorek I agree with all that you've said except for the last statement. Comparing these is NOT pointless! The comparison shown, while not the BEST one possible (on a rally stage), shows that the racing/rally car is far faster in many ways to the street version. It is sometimes hard for the average person to grasp how big of a difference there is without this type of comparison.
It’s expensive because it’s all custom work done by just a few engineers and the time that goes into development and the constant testing and improving is immense. I bet it changes every time they drive it. That dog box transmission sounds so good!
8 seconds is not that big of a difference really considering the sequential shifts and tires alone are probably worth a good 3 seconds. But put the cars on a narrow tarmac stage with tight hair pins and lots of undulations and I bet after 1 min 30, the STi is a lot more than 8 seconds back. Then put the cars on gravel, and I bet the STi DNF's. The conditions where a WRC car shines are not shown in the video.
dude 8 seconds is a lot. like a lot. in racing if your like .1 faster than the other guys, your going to be seriously fast. after 60 laps what 8 seconds. thats 8 minutes your behind. you could take a pit stop and go take a dump and still win.
I'm not saying 8 seconds isn't huge. I'm saying when you consider it's a tarmac setup full out race WRC car vs a 100% bone stock WRX, 8 seconds is closer than many (including myself) would expect. With slicks and boost, the WRX could likely go upwards of 3-4 seconds faster. But I also mentioned that on a track/road that is more like a traditional rally stage, the gap would surely be a lot larger than 8 seconds after just 1:30 in time.
8 seconds is a lifetime in racing. I watch racing every weekend. You know nothing. If there are 50 laps in an F1 race, 8 seconds x 50 laps = almost 7 minutes!
You guys are completely missing the point. Say for example you drove your car to the end of your driveway and you were 8 seconds faster than a guy on a donkey. Will you argue how much quicker your motorized vehicle is over a mammal, that 8 seconds is huge because you compared it to the unrelated Formula 1 race you watched it recently? You may just say that given the donkey is an animal and not a machine, that the 8 seconds is really not as big of a difference as you may have originally imagined it to be. If you haven't figured it out, the bone stock STi is the donkey in this video.
I wonder if you spent money on remapping, coilovers and tyres how close the sti could get maybe shave a few seconds. but 8 seconds is a life time in wrc.
+Rakhin Amin You're absolutely correct! You're just not going to beat a purpose-built racing/rally car when it is in it's element at speed with a stock vehicle. In one sense, what is amazing is that for it's price that the street WRX/STi is as good as it is, and will last many years with only a minimum of maintenance.
And this is 8 seconds on tarmac...let's add rocks and dirt and mud and see if the stock Subaru can even finish a stage. ....LOVE that black STi though ♥️
So, it was clearly a pretty short track and it was a road track. We don't know if this particular rally car was set up for road or dirt at the time which can make a huge difference in race times. Remember that this short course was only 1:30 min. A typical course will be much longer than that so that 8 seconds turns into 16 and so on. But again, your paying for stronger components and durability and less weight. 630k still seems like quite a bit more than I was expecting. The new WRC cars must be pretty expensive. Clearly the money goes into something or the car manufacturer wouldn't be spending that much.
geoff its more about the gearing not the power in this case. The stock car is geared to stay in low rpms on the freeway to get good gas mileage while the other is geared to be fast.
The Horsepower isn't too different, the anti lag keeps the Wrc car in the power band and the Wrc car makes huge torque compared to the road car, also the gearing like the other guy said.
depends on the circuit :) ifit has lots of bends and sudden change of speed then the wrc is much faster, because that is what it is solely built for :) but lets not forget, the STI isn't a slow car either, so it makes sense. and maybe he did take it a bit easier in the race car
@@dirceum8224 In a sense. But if you get everything done properly, starting from a better marketing work than the absolute shit stuff done by the official WRC promoters, I'm sure it would be as healthy as never before. Just look here at those numbers in the views counter: czcams.com/video/0NhSX1Y8sLQ/video.html. No other motorsport category, no matter its time, is/was able to achieve such a thing - and that's just one example among lots. And if you change a little bit the cars to make them quite harder to control (they're already hard to drive), similar to the Group B combination of control/driving, then we're sorted.
Subarus are really reliable like every japanese car,if you know how to "treat" them, except of course the EJ25 and the diesel engines those are not too reliable...
630.000 euros are more like 63.000 euros, cause your sponsors pays almost 80% of the car. Plus that, is a team, not for collin mcrae only. Still, my favorite race car ever made.
Everything on WRC car is built manually by hand, by engineers. So yes, $650k is a bargain for what you get. A regular STi does 0-60 in 5 seconds, but maybe once or twice per day, any more and you will probably damage something. WRC car can go 0-60 in 3 seconds, as needed on demand. Everything on the WRC car is custom built for massive stress and metal fatigue. If you did stress a regular STi the way they stress WRC car, STi wouldnt last 300 miles.
+Benny Chan What you think every cent of that goes straight to the engine? There's a lot more development and research required for WRC cars then you think. Not only do these cars have to go fast, but they have to be able to handle the abuse of a driver trashing it around on a stage over and over and over again. Plus it's not like these are in mass production, each competent in these cars are usually custom made to order. Let's not forget the image Subaru has in the rally community, they've obviously been doing it right for a loooong time so it's not like you're one to talk.
boxer is just a configuration for an engine, known as a flat engine. there are v8 engine, v6, inline 6,inline 4 etc... a boxer motor is an engine... with 2L of displacement.
the WrC cars.. from a standing start to 100 in 3 seconds on any surface pretty much... insane grip, cornering that is amazing, anti lag turbo, crazy gearbox... not to mention the structure is amazing... 700N.M of torque coming from a 2L displacement engine..!
The rally car isn't a modded street car, it's a purpose built race car with almost nothing in common with the STi. there is no comparison and this fails to properly make the point. It's supercar fast while on gravel and dirt. "it has a standard boxer engine" bullshit - it has a standard block (possible sleeved or strengthened), and almost everything else is improved/uprated.
The sti is not rally. The wrx is. The sti has the 2.5 where the wrx only has a 2.0 and that's the engine they use for rally because 2.0 is the limit for rally rules.
now.. mind you.. the sti is still street legal and can perform the way it does. im jealous of its closed deck engine. my wrx is semi open deck i do believe. jealous!
Me being a rally fan i distance myself from the Subaru/Mitsubishi Tuner crowd in my school. I was watching a WRC vid of this car and one of those Subaru tuner guys said it was gay because it was automatic. He didn't even know that the WRC was Subarus race car, he thought is was built by a random guy, what a arse. His WRX wouldn't even go offroad cause his crappy lip will break off on the dirt for being too low. I own a Tuner Lancer that use to be my brothers but I want to build a WRC Replica WRX one day.
Lancer Mafia not everyone wants a rally car out of their rally inspired vehicle... Though on another level, your mate should think before he talks a little more
I crashed my 06 impreza on new years and I'm 100% sold on Subaru. I drove out of a snow covered field and out of a ditch... No problems no damage... no nothing.
Yeah but guys the 600,000 doesnt just go to making the car faster, alot of that money goes to keeping the car light but making super durable to handle 6ft jumps and the torture of rally racing without breaking parts.
And safety
No , 600k goes up to pay the research they did to build the stuff they wanted
@@FortunePT i thought thats the other 14.4 million dollars.
600k isn't buying you speed, its buying you a car that can jump 50 meters without even breaking a sweat. Try that in an OEM STi, you will be collecting the remnants of the car into a bin, if you survive.
hahaha well said, plus the price of the WRC includes development cost as they are built and tested, modified and tested again. It takes many, many months for a group of engineers and drivers to come up (from scratch) with what we are watching above. They're all hand built, using exotic materials, I mean comparing these is pointless:)
+wisniorek I agree with all that you've said except for the last statement. Comparing these is NOT pointless! The comparison shown, while not the BEST one possible (on a rally stage), shows that the racing/rally car is far faster in many ways to the street version. It is sometimes hard for the average person to grasp how big of a difference there is without this type of comparison.
It’s expensive because it’s all custom work done by just a few engineers and the time that goes into development and the constant testing and improving is immense. I bet it changes every time they drive it. That dog box transmission sounds so good!
Both have close to 300hp, shows what weight reduction, massive torque and slick gearbox can do
It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru
I just love my old 03 sti on the road, it has given me 5yrs of pleasure :)
I love the way the gears sound. Subaru FTW I want mine to sound like that from the inside.
Fit a straight cut gearbox on.
@@hongthainguyen5334 qq
@@hongthainguyen5334 don't have to, change rear shifter bushings on STI's and you'll hear your gearbox whine a lot.
8 seconds is not that big of a difference really considering the sequential shifts and tires alone are probably worth a good 3 seconds.
But put the cars on a narrow tarmac stage with tight hair pins and lots of undulations and I bet after 1 min 30, the STi is a lot more than 8 seconds back. Then put the cars on gravel, and I bet the STi DNF's.
The conditions where a WRC car shines are not shown in the video.
dude 8 seconds is a lot. like a lot. in racing if your like .1 faster than the other guys, your going to be seriously fast. after 60 laps what 8 seconds. thats 8 minutes your behind. you could take a pit stop and go take a dump and still win.
I'm not saying 8 seconds isn't huge. I'm saying when you consider it's a tarmac setup full out race WRC car vs a 100% bone stock WRX, 8 seconds is closer than many (including myself) would expect. With slicks and boost, the WRX could likely go upwards of 3-4 seconds faster. But I also mentioned that on a track/road that is more like a traditional rally stage, the gap would surely be a lot larger than 8 seconds after just 1:30 in time.
8 seconds is a lot in racing. What an ignorant comment.
8 seconds is a lifetime in racing. I watch racing every weekend. You know nothing. If there are 50 laps in an F1 race, 8 seconds x 50 laps = almost 7 minutes!
You guys are completely missing the point. Say for example you drove your car to the end of your driveway and you were 8 seconds faster than a guy on a donkey. Will you argue how much quicker your motorized vehicle is over a mammal, that 8 seconds is huge because you compared it to the unrelated Formula 1 race you watched it recently?
You may just say that given the donkey is an animal and not a machine, that the 8 seconds is really not as big of a difference as you may have originally imagined it to be.
If you haven't figured it out, the bone stock STi is the donkey in this video.
I wonder if you spent money on remapping, coilovers and tyres how close the sti could get maybe shave a few seconds. but 8 seconds is a life time in wrc.
It's actually about 5 seconds a minute quicker if you do the maths, so on a 5 minute rally stage that's already 25 seconds quicker.
8 seconds is a lot in rally. Plus, the car is improved in every way. It would absolutely destroy the regular Subaru on any course
+Rakhin Amin You're absolutely correct! You're just not going to beat a purpose-built racing/rally car when it is in it's element at speed with a stock vehicle. In one sense, what is amazing is that for it's price that the street WRX/STi is as good as it is, and will last many years with only a minimum of maintenance.
And this is 8 seconds on tarmac...let's add rocks and dirt and mud and see if the stock Subaru can even finish a stage. ....LOVE that black STi though ♥️
Not a chance, I’m about £15,000 in on engine & suspension work & mine is still miles away from any we’re close to wrc specs lol
I'm in love, WRC 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
07 Rally Blue Sti, Coilovers, Turbo Back, Boost Controller, Cobb AP, Upgrading Injectors, External Wastegate, Stock Boost Controller, New Down Pipe etc etc 😁
So, it was clearly a pretty short track and it was a road track. We don't know if this particular rally car was set up for road or dirt at the time which can make a huge difference in race times. Remember that this short course was only 1:30 min. A typical course will be much longer than that so that 8 seconds turns into 16 and so on. But again, your paying for stronger components and durability and less weight. 630k still seems like quite a bit more than I was expecting. The new WRC cars must be pretty expensive. Clearly the money goes into something or the car manufacturer wouldn't be spending that much.
Acceleration difference is crazy considering the output between the two aren't that far off
geoff its more about the gearing not the power in this case. The stock car is geared to stay in low rpms on the freeway to get good gas mileage while the other is geared to be fast.
zachpaw true, forgot wrc cars are geared lower
The Horsepower isn't too different, the anti lag keeps the Wrc car in the power band and the Wrc car makes huge torque compared to the road car, also the gearing like the other guy said.
+zachpaw plus the wrc is just a shell with seats.
+geoff It's not the power but torque.
8 seconds is a huge difference and a wrx sti isn't a slow car either its fast
8 seconds for 592000 euros not bad :D
in wrc the gap gets bigger and a road car will not even live through the abuse in a rally
In the grand scheme of fast, the STI is a fucking turd.
@@jeepmanxj Not really.
@@tappajaav yes, it is. I've owned 5 of them and they are fucking slow unless you dump a copious amount of money into it.
as soon as the rally took off It just made my paints wet
El auto de rally más hermoso del mundo !!!
i simply love it! :D
They do a lot more than that to the rally car dude, but your point is still valid, those are the main things that make it so much quicker.
It's a beast of a car!! 😈👌😀🚗
The blobeye WRC car was always underrated
How did it manage to survive that last jump?
depends on the circuit :) ifit has lots of bends and sudden change of speed then the wrc is much faster, because that is what it is solely built for :) but lets not forget, the STI isn't a slow car either, so it makes sense. and maybe he did take it a bit easier in the race car
@dakoffran you made my day with your comment thank you xD
8 seconds is a lot, wait until you see the difference on a gravel track
8 seconds is worth 600,000 €, I'm happy with 1:38
Maaan SUBARU'S bloody awesome :)
rip subaru wrc team
zoey margera caiate pendeja.
WHY rip?
Because Subaru WRC team decided to finish their job and split out. Rally seems to be dying slowly
@@dirceum8224 In a sense. But if you get everything done properly, starting from a better marketing work than the absolute shit stuff done by the official WRC promoters, I'm sure it would be as healthy as never before. Just look here at those numbers in the views counter: czcams.com/video/0NhSX1Y8sLQ/video.html. No other motorsport category, no matter its time, is/was able to achieve such a thing - and that's just one example among lots. And if you change a little bit the cars to make them quite harder to control (they're already hard to drive), similar to the Group B combination of control/driving, then we're sorted.
Ah so a $300,000 automatic transmission makes the difference lol
It's actually a manual sequential transmission. I thought you know that brief car break up
$25,000 sequential transmission that breaks every 3000 miles but yeah pretty much
@@alecjones4135 it was a joke 🙄
@@BriefCarBreakdown some people just don't appreciate a good laugh
Help I'm falling in a rally rabbit hole and I can't get out!
Tested an STI WRX and an Evo 10 when they were new quite a few years ago. Liked the Subaru but the Evo was far superior in my opinion.
1:13 "you get reliability" the first and only time I've ever heard that said about a Subaru
Subarus are really reliable like every japanese car,if you know how to "treat" them, except of course the EJ25 and the diesel engines those are not too reliable...
I want one ... to go to work
Don't forget to lick the wind and stare into the mirror when braking and coming to a complete stop.
the drivers ist Chris Atiknson
good stuff
subaru is amazing.
630.000 euros are more like 63.000 euros, cause your sponsors pays almost 80% of the car. Plus that, is a team, not for collin mcrae only. Still, my favorite race car ever made.
+john hamlet then that would be 126.000 euros
john hamlet ... what ever it cost that money to someone somewhere anyways
I'm pretty sure Subaru pays for the whole price of their team drivers' cars, not just 80% of it.
Everything on WRC car is built manually by hand, by engineers. So yes, $650k is a bargain for what you get. A regular STi does 0-60 in 5 seconds, but maybe once or twice per day, any more and you will probably damage something. WRC car can go 0-60 in 3 seconds, as needed on demand. Everything on the WRC car is custom built for massive stress and metal fatigue. If you did stress a regular STi the way they stress WRC car, STi wouldnt last 300 miles.
This WRC can crush a Buggati Veyron around a track.
630k Euros, 630k Views
wow this 2005 sti is great...
oh is that road salt?
my two favourtie cars, subaru sti and subaru wrc ;)
JDM ones are 2.0 I didn't know Australia had the 2.5 too.
I thought for sure the last jump was going to be a big shunt.
@slandshark 8 seconds on a 3 kilometers test track is almost day and night
Its like 8 years in rally
Beasts!
Stock subie ( Hawkeye). Rally subie (blobeye)....?
630,000 Euro for only 8 seconds less, Very very impressive !!!!!
Knob head... Time x speed = distance. Big speed=big distance
+ZeroSum Game ok,.... So?
Benny Chan So thats it. Self explanatory.
+Mario Lorber your English is way off, learn how to speak
+Benny Chan What you think every cent of that goes straight to the engine? There's a lot more development and research required for WRC cars then you think. Not only do these cars have to go fast, but they have to be able to handle the abuse of a driver trashing it around on a stage over and over and over again. Plus it's not like these are in mass production, each competent in these cars are usually custom made to order. Let's not forget the image Subaru has in the rally community, they've obviously been doing it right for a loooong time so it's not like you're one to talk.
Rally Cars have a lot more torque than a similar street car, but normally the HP is actually less.
Doesn't mention anything about Prodrive's Rocket anti lag lol that's where the instant power comes from
Prodrive was really a secret success to Subaru absolutely love there rare models Subaru p1 is absolutely amazing
boxer is just a configuration for an engine, known as a flat engine.
there are v8 engine, v6, inline 6,inline 4 etc...
a boxer motor is an engine... with 2L of displacement.
@FershLicka 8 seconds is a long time...
mainly down to the WRC's gear box
8 years late but they have to make a stock hawkeye into a rally blobeye
最高😃⤴️⤴️
8 sec or 16 STis!?
+Daniele Dal Col you can have your 16 sti's, you'll never finish first in the race though.
jj ytyt i don't even care
+Daniele Dal Col Go mop some floors
Well I guess you'll never be late to work.
Wait. You get reliability?
うわーーーー
この型のWRC一番好きな奴！！
Rally cars are insane... but WHAT!? He only went 8 seconds faster? Something tells me he goofed off more than a little.
8 seconds is a lot on a little track, considering how fast the standard sti already is
the good days are gone . . . . .
Is wrx tune by sti team
the WrC cars..
from a standing start to 100 in 3 seconds on any surface pretty much...
insane grip, cornering that is amazing, anti lag turbo, crazy gearbox...
not to mention the structure is amazing...
700N.M of torque coming from a 2L displacement engine..!
New turbo charger sti wrx WRC
Yes please
@Paco2day only 8 seconds? Lol
cool
and the Gearbox ist not automatic
インプレッサSTI VSインプレッサWRC
パワーは同じくらいだけど
トルクは60近く
WRカーはパドルシフト
Almost 3 quarters of a Million for that? Fuck that..
Subaru should come back. I miss this color en rally.
It is not a 2L engine, it is a Boxer4 engine
Hello it is me corona time 2020
for 630.000e you get steering wheel on right side!
The rally car isn't a modded street car, it's a purpose built race car with almost nothing in common with the STi. there is no comparison and this fails to properly make the point. It's supercar fast while on gravel and dirt. "it has a standard boxer engine" bullshit - it has a standard block (possible sleeved or strengthened), and almost everything else is improved/uprated.
Well that is not a 2005 STI
imagine pulling that baby on the high way
Класс!!!!!!!!
way more than that
at first i thought it was 63k then he said 630k i shitted bricks man
fun fact - A cockroach can live nine days without its head before it starves to death.
And how much wheels does a car have? --'
0-100 in 3,2? Probaly tonns of regulations
It should be more than 8 sec
Imbra Šlauf 8 seconds is a lifetime in racing.
Lijevi Desni That's what your girlfriend says.
Love Subarus
Fiesta review
I miss WRC
have Rally America though
8 second is not a lot?????
The sti is not rally. The wrx is. The sti has the 2.5 where the wrx only has a 2.0 and that's the engine they use for rally because 2.0 is the limit for rally rules.
The WRC is my top dream car when im rich. Forget the rest.
now.. mind you.. the sti is still street legal and can perform the way it does. im jealous of its closed deck engine. my wrx is semi open deck i do believe. jealous!
yeah Quinton Walsh..go on and do it.
8 seconds per lap, in the racing world is a hell of a lot faster, Bro!
Lol... 8 seconds? Sheesh man, that's hefty.
For WRC standards that's a lifetime.
someone is pocketing some euros.
Rally Champion all the Way!
Me being a rally fan i distance myself from the Subaru/Mitsubishi Tuner crowd in my school. I was watching a WRC vid of this car and one of those Subaru tuner guys said it was gay because it was automatic. He didn't even know that the WRC was Subarus race car, he thought is was built by a random guy, what a arse. His WRX wouldn't even go offroad cause his crappy lip will break off on the dirt for being too low. I own a Tuner Lancer that use to be my brothers but I want to build a WRC Replica WRX one day.
Lancer Mafia not everyone wants a rally car out of their rally inspired vehicle... Though on another level, your mate should think before he talks a little more
Uh, most Super cars cost around $400,000 and up. You would be lucky to get two.
Get yourself a straight-cut gearbox :-)
I crashed my 06 impreza on new years and I'm 100% sold on Subaru. I drove out of a snow covered field and out of a ditch... No problems no damage... no nothing.
the wrc doesnt exist its either the Subaru Impreza WRX, or the Subaru Impreza WRX STI
Did he say you get reliability?
Subi_fan I’ve had 6 Subaru’s, never once had one with reliability
could you gift it to me?