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Prefer the builds but always a pleasure to watch the way u dont give a sh*t just tell it as it is lol Watching this has just helped me out as me and my son about to convert a goped to an 36v 800w but was thinking isit to much but now im thinking yh it be prefect with a 2/3 speed because don’t need it at full power all time Keep all the vids coming mate always grate to watch and easy and good to learn from
I confess I was in the persuit of more power but the fact is, my 350w /36v yose is perfect for my 30 mile daily commute(round trip) up and down hills it does indeed give me a workout as well 👍
Yeah I have one of those kits on a bike I use on the road, I get between 40 and 50 miles, and it goes up any hill and that's using it on standard mode, level 3, and I live in North Wales surrounded by steep hills, I don't use a throttle, don't see the point of them. It's a very good kit for the money
It's all relative. How much you weigh. How much stuff you carry with you. I'm over 20 stone and do 5miles each way to work, 10hr shift in a physical job then back up the hill a few hundred feet of elevation at the end of a long day. 250w diy ebike is lacking but legal
Fun for me is RANGE ....how far can make Ebike go ....That to me is most fun ...Average speeds ....Right now my Duel Battery Pair combo has got me on 70 Miles range and it still got 50% battery left ....That from london to Peterborough in one charge ... Benefit to this type ebiking is that you build cycling each time ..each time try use less power and more peddling each time you do your range extends ....that the excitement for me ....how far can i make the bike go with out sweating balls but still making some effort
Enjoying your content! I'm considering upgrading to 500w from 250. The exercise is nice as you say but the hills discourage some longer trips. Nice to get out and ride
My real reason for a bike is to get to work without requiring a shower. Here in Perth on a 35 to 40°c day can be a bit of a challenge. Just keeping a controller cool would be an exercise and a half! My idea is to exercise a little, but to not have a motor etc. Overheat. So I'm wondering what the sweet spot is with wattage and Ah on batteries might be? Need to be able to comfortably do a 40km round trip. Carrying myself and a work bag (115kg perhaps)
I’m having a really trouble getting pedal assist to work with my Kirby kit we’ve tried three different sensors read the manual somethings stopping it will try to do some more investigation but these kits are super !
Steve, great video. But I have to ask what is your gearing on the bike? Your cadence at 20+ MPH seems really slow. Also as you know the weight of the bike and rider have a great affect on the performance, how much do you weight now that you have been loosing weight. BTW I'm and old fart at nearly 76 yr old and live in a very hilly are here in the Pacfic Northwest. The climb to my house about 350 ft in less than half mile. I love my 750w bike the tops out at 1250 W.
try that on Jenkin Road Sheffield are 1 of many steep hills in Sheffield it will kill any e bike are old cars if your not in the right gear you get stuck
Dear Steve: I love your videos. You are always honest and relastic. You don't tell any crab, you tell the truth. If you want to do cardio, it is recommended to you to do as many hard hills without motor as possible. After about 3 weeks daily cycling your body gets used it and you lose weight automatically. Riding slow is better than fast to begin. E-bikes are fine, but regular bikes are better to really get in good shape.
All you need to do is lower the assistance . I don't understand why so many don't get this . If you want a full work out turn the bike off and use the weight . If you want to ride it like a regular bike but with some help then increase the assistance . Then when you get knackered and can't take anymore then use full power .
densel - he aint in fighting shape guy. fighters are generally underweight to game the system and be the biiger man at the same weight. some are better at gaining and adding weight than they are fighting, or just staying skinny and being a 6 foot guy fighting guys that even joe rogan towers over. he said himself he got fat, everyone needs excercise. 500w is a good mix to have a powerful motor and powerful body, though for many, its about capacity as if they have huge capacity, they still wont pedal much lol.
You need to test a Tsdz2 750w I guarantee you it's what you're looking for, stock firmware is excellent and the torque sensing gives you the assisted power that makes you feel like you are still riding a bike. If you get the throttle version you can still be lazy when you're tired, or just enjoying a cruise. Theres also lots of options for custom firmware displays and programming to tweak torque sensing, cadence etc.
Looks great the conversion, liking your yt channel , I have a Marin e4 edge california, what conversion kit would I need?, I am new to this, so please excuse my ignorance, how long does it take to charge say a 500watt battery, and what distance do I get before next charge. Thanks
If your using an ebike off road speed isn't the main issue, it's the torque i have a bafang bbshd, and it's great, about 1500w at it's peak, I never use that though, it's usually around 750w peak. The bike I use on the road has a 350w yose kit, and that will go up any hill, and I am in North Wales surrounded by hills, does over 40miles on the middle setting, and for £350 was a bargain. I don't use any throttles on my bikes, I don't see the point, you may as well but a motor bike if that's your thing.
I see e-bikes as longevity enhancers not pedal replacements . You'll always go faster as even a 250w will raise your consistent speed and turn you into an athlete doing zone 2 or 3 training, if you're in a built up area you'll be quicker than the cars.
I'm yet to have my first e bike but it will happen and to start with I was like I'm definitely getting at least 1000w or more but after watching your videos and doing my own research I've decided 500w is the best way to go especially to begin with being from the UK I have to think about blending in as it will be a daily commuter also with it being a Kirby hubdrive I'll be getting can hardly tell it's got a hub on there and seems like there would be enough power and speed for what I need it for
If you get a basic bafang mid drive, they can go up to a 1000w and the bbshd going higher again, plus you can play with the settings using the app or laptop software.
anthony - a daily commuter is generally better with a hub drive. less maintenance , cheaper and much more simple. a mountain bike going up dirt trails is better with a mid drive.
Yeah that is the thing as soon as you travel faster than normal bike speeds most of your battery is spent on drag. So for longer journeys or for those with a small battery slow n steady wins the race so to speak.
At pedal assist 5 were you ghost pedalling uphill ,as my ebike above 18 mph pedalling has no effect on speed, Also was that the old bill behind you coming down hill 7:05 at top speeds
I'm not to bothered about speed I'm interested in range of the battery of the 500w and I know there a lot of veritables to consider, but an estimated guess would be enough
My 36v yose kit has a 13ah battery, on its mid setting and doing quite a bit of climbing, I could squeeze 50miles but that would be tight. The bbshd I have just fitted on another bike has a 19.2ah battery and I did 34miles on that, the battery was just off the red, and I was using its max setting sometimes as I am in the middle of setting it up, plus it included going up the horseshoe pass in Llangollen. I suspect, when I get the right settings I may squeeze 50 miles out of that.
Nice bike it's worth the money. And definitely better than Halfords expensive ebikes. Start from 1100£ and everything what they offer is the minimum of the ebikes world. Don't understand me wrong Carrera normal bikes offered very good quality for their money. But the electric ones (just expensive for their kits).
Hi, I just bought a 500w kit with a 48v battery from kirbebike but my motor looks a lot smaller than on your bike, I am thinking it might be a 250w. The diameter of the motor is 170mm can you confirm if this is 250w or 500w thanks
Hi I just got a Jetson,dyu 350w and I didn’t understand the controller voltage subject,I’ve had round 18mph which is great but I wouldn’t mind maybe abit more out if it,what kind of voltage would be good for the extra bit of torque,and maybe bit more speed I’m looking at round 25mph would be great,any advice is welcome
If its 36v you could get a 48v battery, but the standard controller might not handle 48v. So you would need to upgrade the controller too or just buy an entire different kit which might not be worth the money to do
My 250w bafang rear hub motor with 36v battery takes hills no problem. Going to stick a 48v battery on there though and upgrade the controller to a 48v just to be able to hit that 30mph though. If i can get that speed on a 250w motor. Then no doubt on a 750w motor youre absolutely flying.
It would do mate , could be a cunt with starting on hills but without pedal assist attached and a throttle to help u get going it would be a dream bike for yourself .. make sure you get a comfy saddle and strong hydraulic brakes .. and avoid front forks that are cheap as my sun tours can barely handle my weight im around 10stone max plus the weight of the kit
I’ve gave my mate who’s about similar size and weight to you a blast and he looked the fastest out of everybody I’ve let have a go .. he was having time of his life mate get it done if you haven’t already big man
great video. As a massive fat f**k already I support the decision not to get fat :) For us that already are ebikes are actually a way to pedal back to normal gears.
Tested couple of motors and for hub and person of 120Kg or more you still need the peak 1000W. Motor will overheat as it tries to gain speed up the hill even with pedaling.
What gives you the impression that hubs are more prone to damage? While a mid-drive is more efficient than a hub I would hardly say a hub is slower, it depends on how the hub is wound. Generally hubs are considered to be more reliable than mid-drives due to having less moving parts and no chain or gearing to go wrong.
Clocked over 500 miles in 3 months on my 5kw hub drive and get up to 80 miles on 1 charge and have had no damage to any of the components at all where do people get off saying crap like this and my bike ain’t exactly slow it will do 60mph lol
It wouldn't feel right sitting on a bike and not pedalling it's natural to pedal when you sit on a bike but it's olso nice to have the power if you need it 😀
@@kj8213 with my 1000w mid-drive I've only got to move my feet and the bike takes off and my 750w mid-drive mountain bike is the same but I do pedal a lot 😅
Couldn't agree more, up to 30mph is about all you need 500w seems to be a good size motor.
I like to cruise at about 15mph and get maximum range. If I wanted to go fast everywhere I'd have a motorcycle.
Prefer the builds but always a pleasure to watch the way u dont give a sh*t just tell it as it is lol
Watching this has just helped me out as me and my son about to convert a goped to an 36v 800w but was thinking isit to much but now im thinking yh it be prefect with a 2/3 speed because don’t need it at full power all time
Keep all the vids coming mate always grate to watch and easy and good to learn from
Clearly knows what he is talking about
Thanks for the videos!
Great review mate enjoyed it
Makes perfect sense without drawing to much attention to yourself looks like the perfect amount of power.
my 1500w rear hub carry's me up every hill open throttle 25-30mph, i love your channel
I confess I was in the persuit of more power but the fact is, my 350w /36v yose is perfect for my 30 mile daily commute(round trip) up and down hills it does indeed give me a workout as well 👍
Yeah I have one of those kits on a bike I use on the road, I get between 40 and 50 miles, and it goes up any hill and that's using it on standard mode, level 3, and I live in North Wales surrounded by steep hills, I don't use a throttle, don't see the point of them. It's a very good kit for the money
It's all relative. How much you weigh. How much stuff you carry with you.
I'm over 20 stone and do 5miles each way to work, 10hr shift in a physical job then back up the hill a few hundred feet of elevation at the end of a long day.
250w diy ebike is lacking but legal
03:36 that's what I like about my ebike with the bosch active line, you still get exercise and it feels like it's all you doing the work.
Giga Jason Stathan spittin facts
Fun for me is RANGE ....how far can make Ebike go ....That to me is most fun ...Average speeds ....Right now my Duel Battery Pair combo has got me on 70 Miles range and it still got 50% battery left ....That from london to Peterborough in one charge ...
Benefit to this type ebiking is that you build cycling each time ..each time try use less power and more peddling each time you do your range extends ....that the excitement for me ....how far can i make the bike go with out sweating balls but still making some effort
There's a hill near codnor that has an incline of at least 60° and a 250w smashed it, obviously with a tonne of leg power needed.
Awesome! 500w appears to be ample!
Shorts and tshirt in march in uk. very brave!
Enjoying your content! I'm considering upgrading to 500w from 250. The exercise is nice as you say but the hills discourage some longer trips. Nice to get out and ride
My real reason for a bike is to get to work without requiring a shower. Here in Perth on a 35 to 40°c day can be a bit of a challenge. Just keeping a controller cool would be an exercise and a half!
My idea is to exercise a little, but to not have a motor etc. Overheat. So I'm wondering what the sweet spot is with wattage and Ah on batteries might be? Need to be able to comfortably do a 40km round trip. Carrying myself and a work bag (115kg perhaps)
I’m having a really trouble getting pedal assist to work with my Kirby kit we’ve tried three different sensors read the manual somethings stopping it will try to do some more investigation but these kits are super !
Man Was BOOOOOTIN!
Cool bike👍
Nice one Steve starting the artwork Saturday and Sunday then it's clear coat 👍
Also got the timber sorted for the trailer 👌 got hold of that yesterday
Ahhh mate that's sick! Happy Birthday dude!
@@DudeStuff thanks Steve👍 hope your good mate 👍
So excited to see the artwork mate can't wait!
Steve, great video. But I have to ask what is your gearing on the bike? Your cadence at 20+ MPH seems really slow. Also as you know the weight of the bike and rider have a great affect on the performance, how much do you weight now that you have been loosing weight.
BTW I'm and old fart at nearly 76 yr old and live in a very hilly are here in the Pacfic Northwest. The climb to my house about 350 ft in less than half mile. I love my 750w bike the tops out at 1250 W.
try that on Jenkin Road Sheffield are 1 of many steep hills in Sheffield it will kill any e bike are old cars if your not in the right gear you get stuck
Dear Steve: I love your videos. You are always honest and relastic. You don't tell any crab, you tell the truth. If you want to do cardio, it is recommended to you to do as many hard hills without motor as possible. After about 3 weeks daily cycling your body gets used it and you lose weight automatically. Riding slow is better than fast to begin. E-bikes are fine, but regular bikes are better to really get in good shape.
Lol 😆 very patronising comment the guy's a cage fighter if you didn't know that and is as fit as a butcher's dog 😉
All you need to do is lower the assistance . I don't understand why so many don't get this . If you want a full work out turn the bike off and use the weight . If you want to ride it like a regular bike but with some help then increase the assistance . Then when you get knackered and can't take anymore then use full power .
densel - he aint in fighting shape guy. fighters are generally underweight to game the system and be the biiger man at the same weight.
some are better at gaining and adding weight than they are fighting, or just staying skinny and being a 6 foot guy fighting guys that even joe rogan towers over.
he said himself he got fat, everyone needs excercise.
500w is a good mix to have a powerful motor and powerful body, though for many, its about capacity as if they have huge capacity, they still wont pedal much lol.
You need to test a Tsdz2 750w I guarantee you it's what you're looking for, stock firmware is excellent and the torque sensing gives you the assisted power that makes you feel like you are still riding a bike. If you get the throttle version you can still be lazy when you're tired, or just enjoying a cruise.
Theres also lots of options for custom firmware displays and programming to tweak torque sensing, cadence etc.
The display is a monstrosity and is to big apart from that it's OK I bought one and immediately sent it back and bought a Bafang instead.
@@denseljosephs9500 What made you send it back? I have a bafang too
Looks great the conversion, liking your yt channel , I have a Marin e4 edge california, what conversion kit would I need?,
I am new to this, so please excuse my ignorance, how long does it take to charge say a 500watt battery, and what distance do I get before next charge. Thanks
the peak power of the controller must be closer to 700w
My bbshd ludicrous controller can motor all day long throttle only. My favorite is tsdz2 on low power.
If your using an ebike off road speed isn't the main issue, it's the torque i have a bafang bbshd, and it's great, about 1500w at it's peak, I never use that though, it's usually around 750w peak.
The bike I use on the road has a 350w yose kit, and that will go up any hill, and I am in North Wales surrounded by hills, does over 40miles on the middle setting, and for £350 was a bargain.
I don't use any throttles on my bikes, I don't see the point, you may as well but a motor bike if that's your thing.
Throttles make riding fun too. But its not worth getting police attention over and potentilly getting the bike confiscated.
I see e-bikes as longevity enhancers not pedal replacements . You'll always go faster as even a 250w will raise your consistent speed and turn you into an athlete doing zone 2 or 3 training, if you're in a built up area you'll be quicker than the cars.
Great video. Only comment - Please consider a helmet. As a doctor I’ve seen far too many avoidable head injuries over the years.
I'm yet to have my first e bike but it will happen and to start with I was like I'm definitely getting at least 1000w or more but after watching your videos and doing my own research I've decided 500w is the best way to go especially to begin with being from the UK I have to think about blending in as it will be a daily commuter also with it being a Kirby hubdrive I'll be getting can hardly tell it's got a hub on there and seems like there would be enough power and speed for what I need it for
If you get a basic bafang mid drive, they can go up to a 1000w and the bbshd going higher again, plus you can play with the settings using the app or laptop software.
anthony - a daily commuter is generally better with a hub drive. less maintenance , cheaper and much more simple.
a mountain bike going up dirt trails is better with a mid drive.
500W is all one needs within reason tbh. I run 1500W, and there's a diminishing return from drag.
Yeah that is the thing as soon as you travel faster than normal bike speeds most of your battery is spent on drag. So for longer journeys or for those with a small battery slow n steady wins the race so to speak.
That 500 watt should do 50kmph max speed. 48volt bat and 20 amp controller
my 500w ebike reaches 40 kph
what hub is on there, i can't hear it, maybe also because it far away from the mic. but i would like to have a silent one
Do you sell the 500w ebike kits and battery.
At pedal assist 5 were you ghost pedalling uphill ,as my ebike above 18 mph pedalling has no effect on speed,
Also was that the old bill behind you coming down hill 7:05 at top speeds
I'm not to bothered about speed I'm interested in range of the battery of the 500w and I know there a lot of veritables to consider, but an estimated guess would be enough
My 36v yose kit has a 13ah battery, on its mid setting and doing quite a bit of climbing, I could squeeze 50miles but that would be tight.
The bbshd I have just fitted on another bike has a 19.2ah battery and I did 34miles on that, the battery was just off the red, and I was using its max setting sometimes as I am in the middle of setting it up, plus it included going up the horseshoe pass in Llangollen. I suspect, when I get the right settings I may squeeze 50 miles out of that.
@@acelectricalsecurity thanks for the information on the battery range, it's helped me decide what size hub moter to buy 👍👍
@@christopherfinnegan257 👍
True I'm 42love e bikes and suffery lungs so I can do it cycle it to for exercise
Steve where is yer helmet 🤕 good review.
I be taken one quite soon
What display model was on that bike?
Why are pedal assist bikes governed at 15???
What’s the NM of toque of the motor? 😉
Nice bike it's worth the money. And definitely better than Halfords expensive ebikes. Start from 1100£ and everything what they offer is the minimum of the ebikes world.
Don't understand me wrong Carrera normal bikes offered very good quality for their money. But the electric ones (just expensive for their kits).
Is that a 1000w motor?
Ha🫁💯✌️🤘👌safe bro never fail my pal
whats the range,its whats a more important question
Canvey?
speeeeeeeeeeed
lol classic you tell im fella and ye your rite too many people these days are lazy f---s lol yes luv this video dude
How much to whip me up a 2000w ghetto build brother ?
Hi, I just bought a 500w kit with a 48v battery from kirbebike but my motor looks a lot smaller than on your bike, I am thinking it might be a 250w. The diameter of the motor is 170mm can you confirm if this is 250w or 500w thanks
Email a photo to kirbebike.com mate they'll confirm for you. I was sent this kit from a supplier to test out its different
Hi I just got a Jetson,dyu 350w and I didn’t understand the controller voltage subject,I’ve had round 18mph which is great but I wouldn’t mind maybe abit more out if it,what kind of voltage would be good for the extra bit of torque,and maybe bit more speed I’m looking at round 25mph would be great,any advice is welcome
If its 36v you could get a 48v battery, but the standard controller might not handle 48v. So you would need to upgrade the controller too or just buy an entire different kit which might not be worth the money to do
250w you'd still be at the bottom . MPs need to see this but they just see money
not true. a 750watt Bafang kit will get you up the hill without peddle assist.
My 250w bafang rear hub motor with 36v battery takes hills no problem. Going to stick a 48v battery on there though and upgrade the controller to a 48v just to be able to hit that 30mph though.
If i can get that speed on a 250w motor. Then no doubt on a 750w motor youre absolutely flying.
Do you take peoples bikes and convert them also?
No I don't do that
Hi Steve, will it still have power for a 19 stone 6ft 1 bloke.
It would do mate , could be a cunt with starting on hills but without pedal assist attached and a throttle to help u get going it would be a dream bike for yourself .. make sure you get a comfy saddle and strong hydraulic brakes .. and avoid front forks that are cheap as my sun tours can barely handle my weight im around 10stone max plus the weight of the kit
I’ve gave my mate who’s about similar size and weight to you a blast and he looked the fastest out of everybody I’ve let have a go .. he was having time of his life mate get it done if you haven’t already big man
30mph is plenty fast enoug
great video. As a massive fat f**k already I support the decision not to get fat :) For us that already are ebikes are actually a way to pedal back to normal gears.
Tested couple of motors and for hub and person of 120Kg or more you still need the peak 1000W. Motor will overheat as it tries to gain speed up the hill even with pedaling.
I can see the Laws that be clamping down on e bike.
Are you thinking bicycling is a male only activity? How about the dudettes?
😂 dudettes more than welcome 🙏
Lol just sold my enduro stealth bomber and got a mtb cuase I got fat not peddling lol
lol not rly dude i can pedal my stealth bomber and you shoud too!!
You me both 😂
Why a hub motor though? Less efficient and slower, more prone to damage.
What gives you the impression that hubs are more prone to damage? While a mid-drive is more efficient than a hub I would hardly say a hub is slower, it depends on how the hub is wound. Generally hubs are considered to be more reliable than mid-drives due to having less moving parts and no chain or gearing to go wrong.
Clocked over 500 miles in 3 months on my 5kw hub drive and get up to 80 miles on 1 charge and have had no damage to any of the components at all where do people get off saying crap like this and my bike ain’t exactly slow it will do 60mph lol
@@phylaxxx exactly!
It wouldn't feel right sitting on a bike and not pedalling it's natural to pedal when you sit on a bike but it's olso nice to have the power if you need it 😀
Thats why i monkey peddal 😇
@@kj8213 with my 1000w mid-drive I've only got to move my feet and the bike takes off and my 750w mid-drive mountain bike is the same but I do pedal a lot 😅
just a suggestion . build more 2000 watt bikes , they will sell faster'. coming from the fat and lazy club who wants a bigger willy
I have a ? why don't you weir a helmet.
Dude where I live that bike would not make it lol 🤣
Jesus at least wear a helmet.
Trust me it’s fast enough it’s just got a really fat A on it