⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ Staten Island Railway R44 on the NYC Subway being Transferred back to Staten Island
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2022
- To support heavy overhaul work on the Staten Island Railway R44, on rare occasions, it is possible to see SIRR R44's running on the NYC Subway System. This video is a look at the movement of one such car from Coney Island Yard back to Staten Island. Enjoy!
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Before the R44s were first delivered to the SIRR, Staten Island rail commuters had 50+ year old rolling stock to contend with. Now the R44s are themselves nearly 50 years old. If any R211s actually begin revenue service on the SIRR this year as we have been told they will, I must imagine it's safe to conclude they'll be there until at least the year 2072. Right?
Yikes, that’s almost my entire lifespan
That I’ll see the R211’s retirement
revenue service? SIRR is free
@The Awesome MSN: It’s free except the first two stations, St. George and Tompkinsville.
@@TrainMaster5097 it should be renamed “barely revenue service” LMAO
The weird Part About this Is That I Had A Dream About The R44s On The Nyc Subway, But The Only Difference Was that It Was In Service on The (A) Lmao.
I mean they *were* on the NYC subway.
This is pretty freaking cool!
This is a 9 Av bound SIR train, via the NYC Subway Line. The Next And Last Stop Is, 9 Av.
I'm hoping that when it does come time for the very last R44s to retire, one of them will be kept in its current configuration to go with R44 5240 which currently resides in the NYTM. That way we have one R44 from the days when it ran in the NYC Subway and one representing the R44's tenure on the SIR.
That's wild! And to think, I used to get excited when I would see the trash train or Money train at Queensborough Plaza!
I rode one of those Staten Island cars & #411 needs to be fixed so they can transport that car back to Staten Island Rapid Transit & back to Clifton so these cars will be back to normal. Those chime sounds sounded like the 70's & I like the old door closing sound of it.
This is cool!!! Heavy maintenance requires movement to Coney Island Shops. 😀💚
Could you please make the lettering a sold color so it is easier to read, thank you and I do always love and look forward for your videos
Really cool! R44 from Staten Island Railway (SIR) sitting in 3rd Ave Yard
Awesome 👏
Amazing!
This is rare to see thanks for sharing
Fun facts- the SIR was electrified in 1926. The first electric cars ran from 1926-1973. These cars, some of the last by St Louis car, replaced them in 1973, it was fun seeing the old and new cars running at the same time. When they are eventually replaced by the R211S in 2024 - the date I heard - they will be 51 years in service, 4 years older than what they replaced. I remember riding the old cars as a little kid, women hated them, the seats were a wicker covering and would tear their stockings. At the end of the line you had to switch the seat backs to the other direction so you could face forward. They were, I believe, designed to BMT standards in case they had completed the train tunnel to Brooklyn to hook up to the R line, that was started in the 1920's but obviously never completed. The line was run by the B&O, I think until 1971. The B&O in 1953 wanted to discontinue all passenger service on Staten Island, but were only able to get the government to agree to the south beach and North shore lines. A terrible miscalculation decades later as they are needed. Unfortunately the south beach right of way was sold off and built on, the North Shore line would require at least several hundred million to bring back. One other fact, initially the MTA wanted to overhaul other cars of the same design already in service on the subway, but the SI reps said no hand me downs.
Nice vid gg
A Staten Island railroad train on subway tracks... interesting
It is a subway car trailer, no motorman cab at either end.
That diesel locomotive bell at the beginning
Ngl I love does trains coz I am use to the seating.
Thanks for the sequence! Any reason why this particular consignment was propelled all the way from Coney, rather than being hauled to 38st Yard and then remarshalled for the SBK leg? \m/
I saw an instagram post of this
I would much rather there be a connection from bay ridge 95th street to an underground tunnel toward Staten Island and then rise up and connect to the SIRR
That almost happened 100 years ago. But a dispute between the then governor of New York, Al Smith and the then Mayor of NYC Hylan, the project got defunded. The original terminal station on the R line (BMT Forth Ave Line) was at 86th Street. The 95th Street station was added in the mid 1920's, when the line was extended with provisions to connect to the Staten Island Railroad. At the very end of the 95th Street Station, there's a "false wall" and the tunnel continues a little further going towards Staten Island from what I understand. This was the reason why the Staten Island Railroad ordered cars similar to those used on the BMT and electrified their main lines with a 600 volt DC Third Rail system. It was rumored that the Governor at the time, owned stocks of share in the Pennsylvania Railroad and he defunded the project to join the SIRR with the Forth Ave Line, because the SIRR was a subsidary of the Baltimore & Ohio RR. (The B&O and the PRR were "arch rivals" at the time.) There is a proposal to actually finish this project in the near future, since the Staten Island Railroad has been an "isolated railroad", being severed from the National Freight Rail network when the last freight train was pulled off Staten Island in 1991. In '91, the Right Of Way of the North Shore Subdivision of the SIRR, between St George, Arlington Yard as well as the Arthur Kill Rail Bridge into Cranford Jct, (the Baltimore & New York Subdivision)in New Jersey, was all abandoned when the Procter & Gamble Co closed their Port Ivory Complex. Bringing equipment to and from Staten Island into Brooklyn and vice versa by truck, is probably a lot more expensive, rather than just transferring rail equipment by rail.
Fascinating stuff our subway system. 🤷🏻♂️😅
When is the move across 3rd Ave. expected? Would love to check that out.
The R44 that is in Staten island should run on the C.
Staten Island Railways ❤️
How long do you think the R44 will sit there?
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It is very old
It's car #411to be exlolol
bye
That rare
No windows on front nor back? Interesting. 🤔
B unit
It's not a front or end car. A front or end car will have windows... at least cars of this elder generation did.
@@litlgrey These were built in 1974 the last of the R44s. Scheduled for replacement sometime in this decade of the 2020s.
@@luislaplume8261 Yes. Exactly.
@@luislaplume8261 Early 1973.
Is it still sitting there at the moment?
Are they looking or ever going to consider connecting them to the main subway system?
Ikr, It’s like Sicily refusing to make a bridge and using a ferry instead.
They started to do it back in 1923 then 2 years later scrapped the plan
I see two options:
1. Rebuild a simple rail barge terminal/car float at the SIR St. Georges Yard (cf. 51st St. Yard). Trains can be shipped from 65th St. Yard by the NYNJ RR.
2. Bring the North Shore Branch of the SIR back in service to reconnect the SIR directly to the national grid.
Shout out please
I hope the R44s retires before the R211S' comes to the Staten Island Railway soon
Finally you got rid of that HDR crap
So how exactly does it get back to Staten Island. I saw "flatbed: but what kind of flatbed. Do they put it on a boat to get it across the water? It can't possibly be done over land, can it?
They put it on a truck.
Wait, it’s just a trailer car??? MTA doesn’t just operate married pairs???? I know the R188’s and the R142’s aren’t married pair sets, but I just assumed the rest were
r160s,r46s,r142s,188s, all have A cars/lead cars and B cars/trailer cars
@@iamastrid_d oh. Didn’t know that
Some A cars on the SIRT are basically B cars. Like they run 3-car sets using 1 married pair and 1 separated unit i believe
Why does it have no front windows?
This is a B car, which does not have an operator's cab
In normal service are the emergency doors locked in between cars like the r46?
Nope, because the curves on the SIRR are not as sharp.
@@DJHammersTrains
Nice. Always liked the full sized door. I use them sometimes on R62 trains and they are so smooth. R160 doors are annoying and rough to use.
@@DJHammersTrains Also a holdover of the pre-July 1997 years when conductors walked between cars and collected cash fares or commutation tickets.
Looks like they replaced the end bonnet. I wonder why they bothered if these cars are scheduled for replacement soon.
It's still going to take several years before the R211Ss arrive
Train car collided with another car and both cars had structural damage
Will it be possible for the r44s run on the 2nd avenue line before they retire
They *already* retired a decade ago on the Subway
This must be Rare of a 75 footer SIR car at 9 Ave?
Yep!! Very much so
This is recent?
ok...I'm going to ask.. how does this car now make it to staten island?? do you have video of that??
By taking the ferry like all of us
Nah they use truck beds and transported it across the bridge to Clifton Yard
I am stuck in a big citie with no money and job and ready to go and it's the truth and people don't want me to ride the street bus in a big city and people need to be report to the police to
Wouldn't the M9s be a better train for the Staten Island Railway? It's the newest model of the Long Island Railroad.
different tech and m9s are much larger than the r44s
staten island railway is considered light rail , which is at a smaller scale then heavy rail M9s
The LIRR isn’t built to NY Subway or SIRT standards. Therefore massive changes would be needed for M9s to appear. So it’s probably better to have R211S trains than M9s
The D subway line should go to staten island
Show us the money $$$.
Show you the money for what?
Dude no that’s too far the SIR does it’s job well enough
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How were the trains transferred to Staten Island?
Truck most likely
@@Chris-zs5qb Ethier that or a barge up the river..
Yep, flatbed truck!
How about SI subway that goes right to Manhattan by way of bridge. City has money for everything else
They don’t have time to focus on a connect from the main Subway to the SIRT, like they have more better plans to complete.
why are they still doing heavy overhauls when they're about to be replaced anyways
It's still going to be several years before we start seeing the R211S arrive
I mean at least the R44s won’t be falling apart by the time the R211s comes
The metro north railroad train should go to staten island
not possible, too wide
@@ammy548 Same width, ten feet longer tho'
@@RailRide to tall, ya'll best bet is to get the refurbished Marta Atlanta rail cars.
The W subway line should go to staten island the 1 subway line should also go to Staten island the 7 subway line should go to kingshighway on the N subway line
@@alexanderglazman3209ro what the hell is this Brand New Subway type plan is this 💀💀💀
Takes 2 locos + a rider car to move 1 car?
Mta you’re wasting energy and labor by doing that only one locomotive is needed.
Guys, yes only one Locomotive needed to push this car, until your single engine fails and ties up the line, they are not big engine, in returning they pick-up a string of cars, leave the Railroading up to the Pro's!
@@bobbender2922 mta cares about safety more than labor and efficiency
why continue throwing old trains into the sea? other states and countries could of use them. im sure the people would be thrilled to have more transportation to travel to their destination in their behave. this country needs to grow and stop the bs
They don’t do that anymore. Instead they recycle the trains for scrap. The metal is then used to build other things.
They stopped doing that a decade ago…. You realize richer countries like Japan can help with those countries too right? I don’t think hand-me-down trains would be a viable option for many countries as they have a higher chance of breakdowns
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