Tony Williams Drum Clinic 1985 pt.2/3

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  • @TheMatthew5252
    @TheMatthew5252 Před 4 lety +6

    One of those drummers that I never get tired of watching. He is astounding!!!

  • @KenNickels
    @KenNickels Před 10 lety +45

    I like him the best, the most power, the most musical and the most unpredictably aggressive drumming that has always challenged his band mates to keep up with him.

    • @benfrank8649
      @benfrank8649 Před 5 lety +9

      Yeah if you can play with Miles at 17 you are simply a legend

    • @joewhittle801
      @joewhittle801 Před 11 měsíci

      All that power and explosiveness, and willingness to put forth an unapologetically muscular sound- also with an incredible groove that’s as wide as a canyon. He’s like an anomaly.

  • @pduber
    @pduber Před 9 lety +27

    "I love the drums, so I want other people to love the drums too..."

  • @Navroze
    @Navroze Před 12 lety +6

    I saw Mr Williams in San Francisco at THE KEYSTONEKORNER the week Max Roach and his group had the gig. That was 1979. The club was full of drummers, every night, night after night. That was part of the education his is talking about. Listening to Mr Roach and being around the drummers was an experience I will never forget. I was humbled.

  • @destonlee2838
    @destonlee2838 Před 8 lety +17

    I'm not a percussionist or even a musician. I am studied in kinesiology and meditation. Tony is brilliant! I love this!

  • @garyconner6151
    @garyconner6151 Před 4 lety +6

    Tony would have been 75 this year.you are sorely missed tony.but I'll carry on playing the drums the best I can.

  • @JHVMRECORDINGS1
    @JHVMRECORDINGS1 Před 12 lety +8

    CALLING ALL DRUM HEADS!!! CHECK THIS OUT. The longest, most detailed video I've ever seen and heard with Tony Williams talkin 'bout the drums. Thanks for posting this Ted Sirota.

  • @jasondotson
    @jasondotson Před 12 lety +17

    What a beautiful HUMAN being.

  • @snackinallday
    @snackinallday Před 10 lety +15

    I was there and lucky to be back stage - what an epic day! I kind of snuck in very early in the day with the help of a couple of Brook Mays friends that were working the thing. I didn't eat all day because I was afraid to leave and not get backstage again. Also that day Simon Phillips, Vinnie (the man), Kenwood Denard, Tommy Aldridge, Louis Bellson - just spectacular. Do you have this entire day? All these guys were personable and friendly. A highlight of my life!! Thanks for posting.

    • @galaxyduos3656
      @galaxyduos3656 Před 9 lety

      Epc1

    • @rizkih8717
      @rizkih8717 Před 8 lety

      I was there too - a memorable event indeed! Got a chance to go back stage and met all the players.

  • @trevormcmanis
    @trevormcmanis Před 4 lety +6

    His discussion on grip is priceless. While I encourage all my students to hold the stick in a way that is comfortable to them, I always stress not to curl the index finger under the stick. Squeezing should never be a part of any grip. The stick should be held securely, without tension... imo. This video is amazing!

  • @rixvspinner
    @rixvspinner Před 2 lety +2

    Tony was the most musical and adaptable drummer in jazz.

  • @binkwood
    @binkwood Před 7 lety +4

    Vinnie looks mesmerized!

  • @tonydir5673
    @tonydir5673 Před 6 lety +9

    Tony aside from being a great drummer, is very intelligent and articulate, its a joy to listen to his insight and ideas about drumming

    • @garyconner6151
      @garyconner6151 Před 4 lety

      Billy Cobham certainly listened to tony Williams.

    • @joethoman4520
      @joethoman4520 Před 3 lety

      I think he has become a good drummer because he is intelligent. Learning an instrument seems to me like a riddle i have to solve. And i never even was able to solve pokemon rubin edition so im fucked

  • @Chris_Stanley007
    @Chris_Stanley007 Před 3 lety

    Awesome upload, thanks man. RIP Tony, you were indeed the man 🍻🥁So wise.

  • @timrichards2380
    @timrichards2380 Před 9 lety +11

    I've been working through "Stick Control" with traditional grip for the last month, happy with my progress.

  • @tullyryandrums
    @tullyryandrums Před 12 lety +5

    this needs more views!
    totally inspired.

  • @lukebs1212
    @lukebs1212 Před 4 lety +1

    this is the number 1 most important, informative and wise drum clinic out there. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @andrewpendlebury1103
    @andrewpendlebury1103 Před 5 lety +1

    A music lesson ,Thankyou Tony,....and for posting...cheers.

  • @jimbaker6442
    @jimbaker6442 Před 5 lety +2

    He's definitely one of my all-time favorite drummers

  • @NeilRaouf
    @NeilRaouf Před 10 lety +12

    i am a guiar player. but i love to learn from players like him. i don't mind the instrument.

  • @TheJazzdr
    @TheJazzdr Před 10 lety +2

    so great! thanks ted!

  • @lapamful
    @lapamful Před 3 lety +2

    I remember the first time my teacher introduced me to Tony. He played an excerpt of Tony at the blue note with Miles. I said I didn't like it (I was new to jazz then). I said Tony's ride swung, but it was kinda scrappy and too lose. Everyone sounded kinda rusty. But then my teacher said, yeah but listen to the tempo. I was silent for a second and when I realised, it was a jaw to the floor moment. Simply blazing, blistering speed with feel and a huge volume/presence too, but didn't sound forced. An incredibly difficult combination of sounds to achieve.

  • @LiftoffMusic
    @LiftoffMusic Před 12 lety +2

    Tony droppin' wisdom! thanks for posting this

  • @holygroove2
    @holygroove2 Před 11 lety +3

    Great video - it's one thing to put in the time, but it's another to know what to spend time working on. I feel that people like Tony seemed to know what to work on b/c of who he played with.... and it made a huge difference.

  • @boneyardcircus
    @boneyardcircus Před 12 lety +2

    i've been looking for this video! his grip explanation helped me alot!

  • @JoeyScrima
    @JoeyScrima Před 8 lety +7

    Incredible wisdom & teaching as Tony relates his philosophy of his style playing the drums!

    • @aridematos3555
      @aridematos3555 Před 7 lety +1

      Joey Scrima I'm pretty sure you have seen him many times back on the days, right Joey? Cuz you both are from Boston!

    • @JoeyScrima
      @JoeyScrima Před 7 lety +1

      Yes Ari, Every time I saw him, he was incredible , musical, explosive, incredible technique, feel, swing from another planet, and I studied with Alan Dawson also I saw Tony 4 times live- and one incredible Zildjian clinic in LA

    • @aridematos3555
      @aridematos3555 Před 7 lety

      Joey Scrima you were my teacher once Joey, I don't know if you remember, like 10 years ago... I used to go to your house in Burlington.... Good times!

  • @paradiddle16
    @paradiddle16 Před 12 lety +2

    Awesome clinic, very informative musically and really honest.

  • @BenGaddFan1
    @BenGaddFan1 Před 7 lety +1

    Such a great drummer - he and Steve Gadd are my favourites - and so sad that he's not here any more - poor man.

  • @nadir6661
    @nadir6661 Před 12 lety +3

    amazing drummer ,& a blessed human !

  • @beatcreatureonline
    @beatcreatureonline Před 10 lety +3

    Eloquent and articulate. The great Tony Williams!

  • @teetomthomas
    @teetomthomas Před 12 lety +3

    You do have to remember what Tony views as independence will be a wildly different concept than a lot of other more, shall we say "technical" drummers. Right foot and left hand combinations is where it's at. Boom Bap. Boom Boom Bap.... for example. There are some Tommy Igoe clips on CZcams that any drummer who can drum can learn from about how independent independence can be. RIP Tony. We were truly blessed. xx

  • @jmet678
    @jmet678 Před 11 lety +2

    wow listen to this great artist talk truly remarkable he was

  • @holygroove2
    @holygroove2 Před 11 lety +1

    Playing like someone else helps you decide what you want to play and what you don't want to play...if you don't do that then you're just floundering around being insecure...
    Very well said. A master who has passed on, God rest his soul.

  • @samtotheg
    @samtotheg Před 7 lety +5

    his 3 main influences are my influences when it comes to bebop ...max roach art blakey and philly joe ....my favorite and main drummer for all other things is gadd and tony williams boom!!!!

  • @pshe1200
    @pshe1200 Před 7 lety +3

    I was lucky enough to see Tony and Stix Hooper on a double ticket at "Boston Berklee" back in 1978

    • @joaoserraribeiro
      @joaoserraribeiro Před 3 lety

      Man, can you elaborate on this? I love Stix Hooper and don't really see much about him!

  • @stephenedmunds3696
    @stephenedmunds3696 Před 8 lety +2

    amazing video. thank you so much

  • @NerismaStudios
    @NerismaStudios Před 11 lety +1

    I gotta say, I love using the "interactive transcript" feature on this video. It makes Tony sound so much smarter than what youtube actually thinks he's saying

  • @branislaverdeljan4914
    @branislaverdeljan4914 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Ted

  • @petercleary1000
    @petercleary1000 Před 2 lety

    Sadly missed 😞. Great man and drummer.

  • @Daniel-RunToRoyal
    @Daniel-RunToRoyal Před 8 lety +26

    Danny Carey was in the audience as well.

    • @andresaguilar327
      @andresaguilar327 Před 7 lety +5

      Do you have the minute??? I already found Vinnie and his ex-wife.

    • @Daniel-RunToRoyal
      @Daniel-RunToRoyal Před 6 lety +2

      Andrés Aguilar Danny mentions this in his Modern Drummer interview.

  • @paparingo5163
    @paparingo5163 Před 3 měsíci

    Super master!!!

  • @iowanchef
    @iowanchef Před 12 lety +2

    Still miss him.

  • @jasondotson
    @jasondotson Před 12 lety +3

    @Galactu5 Sure it was a good question! L.O.L. Again, what a beautiful HUMAN.

  • @JulianFernandez
    @JulianFernandez Před 7 lety +2

    Gospel right there.

  • @teetomthomas
    @teetomthomas Před 12 lety +33

    Tony to Audience:
    "As you see, by the way I'm dressed... I'm performing surgery in the morning"
    Audience: looks at Tony like a dog that's just been shown a card trick

    •  Před 2 lety +2

      :)) exactly

    • @KIRI4DOTS
      @KIRI4DOTS Před rokem

      Hahahha
      Joke fell flat as hell.

  • @g.h.1472
    @g.h.1472 Před 5 lety +2

    Tony will be performing surgery in a town near him..he's a real talent on the drums... Tec style, creative, passion.. keep learning......Williams is a self taught talent .but he does teach. First time in hearing him an his thoughts. So he's a teacher... To play is to be cordeanated on drums . To have a style so people can understand you. Williams is the Bruce l. Of drumming making it easier for the students to eliminate unessary movement's

  • @turtlenecks
    @turtlenecks Před 4 lety +3

    Pure genius

  • @bmulato5921
    @bmulato5921 Před 11 měsíci

    Genial y super nice

  • @Jetemande
    @Jetemande Před 12 lety +2

    Vinnieeee!!!!!!!!!
    Big Tony!

  • @CityofAucklandPipeBand
    @CityofAucklandPipeBand Před 7 lety +13

    Very interesting talk about grip at 7:00 & 24:30

    • @peterguidera7845
      @peterguidera7845 Před 4 lety +2

      Grips the microphone the same as the drumstick 26:45 :-D

    • @leocomerford
      @leocomerford Před 4 lety +1

      But what he says about his grip is very misleading! Watch his right hand on the snare from 1m 0s in Part 1: czcams.com/video/uFCJs_WvsG4/video.html This is very standard German-grip rebound strokes, with the stick held up in a fulcrum between thumb and second finger and being rotated down by squeezing from the back two fingers and back up again by rebound, with some assistance from wrist/elbow motion. Plenty of bounce used, and needed, and the rear two fingers aren't holding the stick, or certainly aren't holding it *up* as demonstrated at for example 26:43.
      What about his famous fast ride technique? The old CZcams slo-mo of his ride playing from 1967 czcams.com/video/T5pT9200HPs/video.html shows largely more of the same, but here his thumb is up so it's classic French-grip "drop-catch". Again lots of "bounce" and finger motion is core to the technique, and the grip is between thumb and second finger (or *maybe* first finger this time, at least some of the time). But is that representative of how he was playing the ride in 1985? Well, the first few minutes of Part 3 czcams.com/video/rAw2f_n0-h0/video.html seem to show him dropping and catching much as before on the ride when he needs to go fast.
      The place where his technique *does* start looking a lot more like his description of it is when he starts moving around the shells in Part 1. See for example at 7m 13s czcams.com/video/uFCJs_WvsG4/video.html . Now the fingers are holding the stick against the palm and there is no rebound, so everything is coming from the wrist and elbows as single strokes. And now the stick does seem to be being held mostly by the two rear fingers, with the second finger seemingly looser (and the first finger clearly loose). But even here there's still a wrinkle: at 7:23 and 8:27 in Part 2 his hand grips seem to imply that he does not play with thumb up and does play with German grip. But here he has switched to a thumb-up grip, away from the German grip he used when playing the snare with rebound strokes.

    • @tommyron
      @tommyron Před 4 lety

      I agree with you 100%. The stuff about grip at the very end is solid drumming GOLD if you're willing to take it on board. It's not even just about grip, it's a clear illustration of how an artist at his level actually thinks, and he had a very original mind.

  • @paradiddle16
    @paradiddle16 Před 12 lety +2

    Humble!

  • @Carlo24515
    @Carlo24515 Před rokem

    7:07 lol love how he hesitated - well they get "a sound" at any rate

  • @DioJeanBaptiste
    @DioJeanBaptiste Před 9 lety +2

    SOOOOO COOOOOOOLLLLLLL :-)

  • @philmaturanodrums
    @philmaturanodrums Před 6 lety

    Thank you for posting this great video! Although he turned out to be so wrong on bounce technique he is still one of the greatest of all time. Just goes to show you...Technique is a tool and what works for some might not work for all. Peace and many greetings from NY.

  • @corazonmanosypies2
    @corazonmanosypies2 Před 5 lety +29

    min 27:45 Vinnie Colaiuta and his girlfriend

  • @MeAndTheBoys_
    @MeAndTheBoys_ Před 12 lety +2

    Hahaaa,could be bro...could be :D I bet that Vinnie did not remember a word that Tony said afterwards,lol. Vinnie was ummm...distracted.
    Personally i thought that someone inserted a segment from adult movie into the clip,hehe.
    But i admit,that could be young Vinnie for sure.
    Thanks for the laughs,George :)

  • @ralfodrum
    @ralfodrum Před 12 lety +1

    IS THIS VIDEO STILL AVAILABLE??

  • @user-jq1ux6gh1c
    @user-jq1ux6gh1c Před 3 lety

    존경합니다

  • @CatabductionsAnoym
    @CatabductionsAnoym Před 2 lety

    I like how he even used two rack toms for jazz, now you could swear its illegal, and he didnt always tilt the snare forward for rim shots.

  • @benfrank8649
    @benfrank8649 Před 5 lety +1

    I use a lot of bounce and teach that way too. Should I change that?

  • @paradiddle16
    @paradiddle16 Před 12 lety +4

    there is a world of drumming untapped!

    • @Chris_Stanley007
      @Chris_Stanley007 Před 3 lety +1

      Some new players out there today make me feel confident about the future, thankfully. Hard to keep up with how easy it is to program things these days. But then again, those people couldn't comprehend what it means to play like Tony or anyone who knows how to play with soul, and use the instrument as a tool to communicate.

  • @pencert
    @pencert Před 11 lety +21

    Not sure how he ended up such a nice, well-adjusted person after being exposed to Miles Davis at the impressionable age of 16.

    • @nedgrant7718
      @nedgrant7718 Před 3 lety +2

      Miles told him, “Do whatever you want.” He s 17.

  • @MeAndTheBoys_
    @MeAndTheBoys_ Před 12 lety +1

    Oh yeah,that actually is Vinnie.You were right,George. Let´s hope that Vinnie absorbed Tony´s words while he was making out ;)

  • @stevegrantley4588
    @stevegrantley4588 Před rokem

    Vinnie asking questions 👌

  • @newsmanbluesman
    @newsmanbluesman Před 12 lety +2

    @tedsirota
    What Mr Williams just described at 6:00 - equals GAYLORD BIRCH who without doubt could do exactly what's suggested.. the evidence being Pointers, Betty Carter, Coldblood, Charles Brown, Santana, Garcia Band. The late Mr Birch excelled in every setting, indeed. was a feature.
    Mr Williams (rip him too) won several Grammys about the time of this nice upload's recording -"major assault on the record buying public" from NoCal! cheers man

  • @XDrummerSteve
    @XDrummerSteve Před 5 lety

    Does anybody know if Tony was the first drummer to employ three floor toms?

    • @Tanildes
      @Tanildes Před 4 lety +2

      XDrummerSteve Maybe Cobham ....

  • @christiaandemarezoyens4720
    @christiaandemarezoyens4720 Před 10 lety +6

    The consumate drummer!

    • @63Baggies
      @63Baggies Před 6 lety +2

      Do you mean - consumate MUSICIAN?

  • @kylesmyth4308
    @kylesmyth4308 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Vinnie Colaiuta at 27:46!

  • @maxfourmy7596
    @maxfourmy7596 Před 6 lety +2

    Tony Williams open mic set

  • @maxdasdrummer
    @maxdasdrummer Před 8 lety +1

    !!!

  • @dannylloret
    @dannylloret Před 10 lety +1

    Yeah, it is a Zildjian day not the PASIC convention I attended.

  • @handidrummed
    @handidrummed Před 11 lety +1

    Tony passed away in 1997.

  • @Greenaresy
    @Greenaresy Před 11 lety

    1997.

  • @MeAndTheBoys_
    @MeAndTheBoys_ Před 12 lety +1

    You may be gone but we will always remember you,Tony

  • @siryams3661
    @siryams3661 Před 7 lety

    so he never bounces the sticks?

  • @carcassgrindcorpsesc
    @carcassgrindcorpsesc Před 12 lety +6

    27 52 is that vinnie? IS THAT VINNIE?!

    • @davealaya
      @davealaya Před rokem

      That is definitely Vinnie haha. When he takes his glasses off it's party time

  • @gabrielezirulia507
    @gabrielezirulia507 Před 4 lety

    Boston

  • @ronosful
    @ronosful Před 11 lety +3

    27:48 vinnie colaiuta!!

  • @amos5583
    @amos5583 Před 3 lety +1

    No fancy talk, no complex things to tell. He said everything that he felt comfortable with. The idea is to be in control.

  • @nilkilnilkil
    @nilkilnilkil Před 5 lety +6

    Can you believe someone said ‘play the blues’??? Jesus!!! 🤣

    • @shantanudhiman8194
      @shantanudhiman8194 Před 5 lety

      N K 🤣🤣

    • @Isaiah54V7
      @Isaiah54V7 Před 3 lety +2

      Dude, for weckl’s first clinic in Australia someone asked him to play ‘green sleeves’ 😂

  • @rafaelestrada1846
    @rafaelestrada1846 Před 3 lety

    I think my right hand actually does kinda do this but my left not yet

  • @paulharris8551
    @paulharris8551 Před 9 lety

    9.40 - - - LOL!

  • @jazzsnare
    @jazzsnare Před 6 lety

    Anybody know what he meant when he said something like, you don't control the stick with the wrist or the fingers but the hand. What part of the hand, not fingers, not wrist, is he talking about? Otherwise he was well-spoken and clear, but he loses me here.

    • @camillelamy4465
      @camillelamy4465 Před 6 lety

      It may be - and it looks this way from the stroke he's doing whilst talking - that he's meaning using the rotation of the hand as opposed to using an up/down or side-to-side movement of the wrist joint. If you rotate your hand as when turning a door knob and look at your arm you'll see that rotation is happening right up the forearm to the elbow joint, there's two bones in the forearm that rotate around eack other from the elbow. Have a look at an anatomy video to see. It's an important thing to be aware of, particularly if, like me, you have issues with the wrist joint.

  • @pencert
    @pencert Před 11 lety +1

    Oh my god 0_0 I didn't even know he was dead, that's terrible! Why do half of all jazz musicians have to die young?

  • @Galactu5
    @Galactu5 Před 12 lety

    It's a good question though! lol

  • @sucmyd1811
    @sucmyd1811 Před 7 měsíci

    Did they really tell him to play the blues ?! That was real funny

  • @stillphil
    @stillphil Před 12 lety

    16:11

  • @JohnnyFiveEagles
    @JohnnyFiveEagles Před 11 lety +1

    Sorry dude. I misunderstood!

  • @georgerobinson2760
    @georgerobinson2760 Před 12 lety +6

    That's Vinnie Colaiuta soaking up Tony's wisdom, while also getting cozy with some chick, maybe his wife?

    • @davealaya
      @davealaya Před rokem

      He's like "check this out baby, watch me absorb this man's knowledge from the ether"

  • @UptownShakedown
    @UptownShakedown Před 10 lety

    Tony is a true master and one of my all time favs but he really does not seem to have been that cool of a guy.

  • @mimimamalion
    @mimimamalion Před 7 lety +1

    Tony didn't go for the moeller thing.

  • @jleemusician
    @jleemusician Před 7 lety

    19:45 to 20:01

  • @digimaton
    @digimaton Před 11 lety +2

    dude, he was making a joke about the way he is dressed.

  • @ericmsandoval
    @ericmsandoval Před 4 lety +1

    27:48 wtf lol

  • @JohnnyFiveEagles
    @JohnnyFiveEagles Před 11 lety

    Did he say he was going to perform surgery in the morning. You do all know that he had gall bladder surgery, suffered a heart attack while under the knife and he dies. What year was that in,anybody?

    • @sticktrik
      @sticktrik Před 5 lety

      JohnFive Eagles Szuros 1997!!!!!

  • @huhkuntz5106
    @huhkuntz5106 Před 9 lety

    Playing with the hand but not the wrist??..how? Wouldn't that be impossible? Someone said he was using moeller method but, clearly not, his hands are far more vertical then horizontal and he does not seem to whip the arm and wrist like that technique dictates. No reliance on rebound and yet he does not flap his wings around as in the Moeller Method. Tony Williams is amazing especially learning to play like this it would have taken a lot of discipline. And still not sure how he can do it

    • @AquaAnim
      @AquaAnim Před 9 lety +3

      Cindy Blackman explains, he didnt rely on rebound, however it doesnt mean he didnt use rebound.

    • @untold_beast7409
      @untold_beast7409 Před 8 lety

      +huh kuntz I know what he means. You can use rebound but for control keeps his back fingers there to control the stick. I do that too and yeah I cheat sometimes and go to the finger/thumb sometimes. I don't have the power though. Man his signature stick is a 2B.
      www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/zildjian-tony-williams-artist-series-drumsticks

    • @destonlee2838
      @destonlee2838 Před 8 lety +1

      In Kendo master swordsman Musashi talk about cutting with the hips, but not the arms or wrist, and vice versa- fire and stones vs falling leaves cut. Here Tony talks about playing with the hand but not the wrist. At one point he goes deep about 'the hardest work is lifting the drumstick, because gravity brings it down". I cant help but think these are related- when we know the mark and have raised the drumstick or sword with the proper angle, and put it in the right place for making a clean strike, using the wrist, hand, elbow, shoulder (and hip with a sword and many percussion instruments such as tambourine or Japanese taiko)- each joint extension/projection provides different effects. And as he says, how one holds produces limits to the potential strikes possibile. Being able to switch grip and stance is important for meter and timing, depending on desired effect. Martial Arts and musical arts are very similar, I think. I should study more music! I'm rambling here. My point is, after 25 years of martial arts, when I listen to him play I can tell hes a master. When I listen to him explain, I can tell hes a great teacher. Just found him today. 6 hours ago. Still digging.

    • @SteveCournane
      @SteveCournane Před 5 lety

      Nice comment

  • @RafaelRomeroT
    @RafaelRomeroT Před 7 lety +1

    Brilland, even dress as a doctor haha

  • @sticksbass
    @sticksbass Před 9 lety

    all trad is nec for is old fashioned marching drumming. anything that can be done trad can be done matched on a kit.

    • @Oneness100
      @Oneness100 Před 9 lety +1

      I disagree. I use traditional grip to get a certain sound from the snare drum and for me, traditional grip is great for jazz, funk and blues. There are certain techniques with traditional grip that can get a certain feel. I change depending on the style of music and what sound I'm trying to get.

    • @AquaAnim
      @AquaAnim Před 9 lety

      stick shots are harder in matched its more a feel thing anyways both are valid.

    • @Oneness100
      @Oneness100 Před 9 lety

      AquaAnim Yeah, it's all what you feel most comfortable with. I used to use traditional only, then I switched to matched only, and then I go back and forth as some styles one, to me, I get better results or a better feel for that style music. for me, I just can do more finesse work with traditional and I can slam a rim shot actually better with my left hand. I tried to learn left hand ride playing, but my right hand simply doesn't do well with traditional. I'm not used to it, so my left is trained to do both, my right is matched only. :-)

    • @AquaAnim
      @AquaAnim Před 9 lety

      Oneness100 I recently started playing both actually, for soft passages i love traditional grip.

    • @Oneness100
      @Oneness100 Před 9 lety +1

      AquaAnim Yeah, traditional grip is for finesse playing over matched, at least for me.
      What's funny is I heard from students of Tony that he demanded that his students played traditional grip when they took lessons from him, but when Tony plays live, he played mostly matched grip unless he was playing on a 4 piece kit, which didn't play towards the end of his career. Tony cracks me up, he's funny in a cool way. :-)

  • @Ronnybengt
    @Ronnybengt Před 11 lety

    lol one person is ignorant foool

  • @carloscappellini1687
    @carloscappellini1687 Před 10 lety +5

    I disagree with his matched grip opinion. Too radical and opinionated. Too bad he never got to see Bill Stewart. I don't even think that matched grip makes the sound less boring. He actually got boring after he left Miles. His drumming changed dramatically and became more for jazz rock. He was really talented though. He just loves to talk in third person about himself.

    • @giovannisugonatoli
      @giovannisugonatoli Před 9 lety +2

      Tony changes himself "drammatically" after Miles. And i'm another one that thinks we have lost something great with this change. But I think i't true that with traditional grip we have the opportunity to think "differently" . I'm not against matched grip (there's no reason to be against that) but I believe you think drumming in a different way. Bill Stewart, a giant, uses matched grip but i see that left is "different" than right when he plays his great music. Just an opinion

    • @giovannisugonatoli
      @giovannisugonatoli Před 9 lety +1

      giovanni natoli
      "If I hold in this way i think in this way", just a choose of thinking, that is different!

    • @giovannisugonatoli
      @giovannisugonatoli Před 9 lety +1

      *****
      a lot of people switched from matched to trad when they plays jazz. I think it's both psichological and cultural but not only. Maybe lots of years of jazz played in trad way had created something different in language and approach. But...all the ways are good if you play great things like Bill Stewart. I've noticed that his left hand is a little bit different from the right hand. Jazz is a kind of different music from all the others musics, philosopically, in language, in approach. It's a "different" music
      . It's just an opinion, maybe right, maybe wrong...maybe LEFT (:-))

    • @1111Paiste
      @1111Paiste Před 9 lety

      ***** Ditto!

    • @scottjohnston9459
      @scottjohnston9459 Před 9 lety +2

      My god Carlos.If you have have the creative energy this man had,you must be brilliant.Learn it all try try and play it all.Third person lol