One of the Last Windows 98 Laptops!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Hello and Welcome to this Budget Builds Episode where today we'll be taking a look at one of the last Windows 98 ever made, as 2001's killer release of Windows XP rendered all previous versions obsolete thanks to its wide array of features OEM's quickly turned away from Windows 98 and 2000 (We don't talk about ME) leaving them in the dust...However Toshiba optimised for Windows 98 on one laptop more so than any other OS...Infact Windows 98 runs best on it...But just how good 16 Years Later?
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Specs:
CPU: Intel Celeron (Coppermine) 700Mhz
RAM: 128MB SDRAM 100Mhz
GPU: Trident Cyberblade XP (4xAGP + 16MB VRAM)
Music:
Sega GT 2002 - Theme Song
Passport.Midi - In Memory of Kakoka (may he shitpost in peace)
Sim City 3000 - Building - Věda a technologie
Thanks for the windows 98 product key fam.
😂
Lmao
Zhemin Lin there are free legal ones in the Internet...
I don't think it's possible to "steal" product keys because there's not internet activation, so there's unlimited use. He probably knew that and didn't cover the key.
me :) screenshot as soon as i saw the key
Thanks for the free Win 98 key
there are lists of 98 keys online, they weren't unique and checked with servers like later versions so it's a literal list and you just try each key until you find one that works as each cd only works with certain chunks of the list
Woooooosh
@Solid Snake nice one snake lol.
HISSSSSSS jk😂
Ashwin jobby im fourteen, and this sir. is a woosher
I remember drooling about this laptop when I was a kid
700 mhz... 128MB damn it's a monster! I bet I could play HL1 with this perfectly
Now a days. My smartphone packs more impressive specs
I hope your Smartphone is more powerful than this...
Your phone even 3 years ago would of been 10x more powerful 😂
@@broughton1835 10x? Probably 100x
Crazy to see the progress made between 2000 - 2010. The difference in 2010 - 2017 has really slowed down.
Edmundo studios it's the advent of Core. After the flop that was Pentium 4 and D, and the killings AMD made with Athlon64, intel had to go back to the drawing board and came up with Core Duo. It was a big turnaround in computer technology (good in a way I guess, because we wouldn't know how AMD might change the course of history if intel didn't cheat their way to success). After core, came Sandy Bridge, and with that and similar flop from AMD that was Bulldozer, no such leap was ever made again for years. Honestly, Core 2 Duo is good enough even in 2017 if you don't play modern game or watch high resolution videos.
JazzEdan Yeah I actually refurbished a core 2 duo system with an SSD for an office computer. It's really fast still for everyday stuff like ms office and web browsing. Not much slower than my i5 for that.
Edmundo studios Are you joking the last 5 year was the most advanced time in technology. We are practically living in the future.
Mona Swanson not in raw consumer computer power, which is what op was speaking of
Steven Perszyk have you been sleeping under a rock this past year alone, thread rippers are the a thing now (look into it, I'm too lazy to explain)
Still has more ports than the newest MacBook
Tsukuyomi lmao 😂😂😂
*per side than the newest macbook in total
Tsukuyomi and better Performance for gaming worse is literally almost impossible.
its text, you cant really tell the tone hes saying it in. its how you read it in your mind.
Tsukuyomi what if the new 2018 MacBook releases with no ports and the headphone jack
You think THAT install was taking too long? You don't know the pain of installing Windows 95 on a 20MHz 386SX and 4MBs of RAM. I started installing early in the evening and the installation finished at 3 AM. And I also had to sit there the entire time and change the floppy disks every time it asked. 14 floppies! Yay! (EDIT: I said Windows 98, it was just 95. If it was 98 I'd probably have to wait an entire day :D)
You actually said windows 95 in the first place :D
There are people who installed XP on a 8 MHz chip with 32 MB RAM. 30 min boot time are no joke.
No, it was 8 MHz with 18 MB of RAM. It had a working Ethernet card, so 40 minutes after pressing the power button (another 10 minutes after the 30 minute boot up), Google would be ready for you to start a search.
and the CPU was an 83 MHz Pentium Overdrive for the Socket 3 486 platform, severely underclocked to 8 MHz. It wasn’t an “8 MHz chip”.
Back then, 2GB of hard drive was a colossal capacity.
Was about to laugh then remembered *Jurassic Park* was made on computers less powerful than that.
Jerry Nkumu ummm, not really. Quite a different beast.
Yeah. SGi rigs outdid even Pentium III 1Ghz machines
@@T3KNUG3T5 They even do ray-tracing
@@T3KNUG3T5 Didn't some of the SGi's use Pentium processors . . . And to be fair to the OP they did quite a bit of initial work on the animation and dinosaur wire framing etc on Amiga computers. So Jurassic Park was indeed made on computers less powerful, as well as some that potentially more powerful in very specific ways.
@@wyterabitt2149 SGi started using Pentiums way after Jurrasic park. Iirc around 2003 ish. Also i had no idea the Amiga was involved
I did what you semi-recommend at the end. I went on ebay and found one of those absolute madmen who make 98 work on XP-era laptops and bought one with a Radeon in it for $60.
I just realized my granddad has had one of these sitting nonfunctional in his garage for around 4-5 years now. We never bothered trying to figure out was wrong with it, but now I'm feeling the urge.
Invidious Ignoramus to splurge
BigChap J Holy shit you're cringe.
hi shinobu
@@suds5866 DUUUH CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE BASED BASED BASED
I have a Windows XP computer which has broken bga sockets. I have no way to fix it right now.
Your channel so criminally underated, loving your videos atm :)
Thank you man!
No probs :)
Budget-Builds Official you should try nvidia geforce 9600gt 512mb because i think it would be good with intel core2 quad q6600
Eetu Isola 750ti with q6600 would be good if you had the appropriate power supply
My school has these laptops... and variations of them.
Where are you.. Africa? lol
Mozz Jones rofl
*budget school life*
Fancy seeing you here...
Jesus Christ do you go to a school in Detroit or something lol
Pro Tip. Make sure the specs and minor details are readable
fun to see how a 700Mhz Celeron has no frame drops in RA2, but an Intel Atom N450 with the double of clock and "better" GPU failed.
I owned this Toshiba, it was a beast and lasted 8 years before the screen hinge snapped.
Awesome video, I think it was better than the netbook. And the passport.mid music went on for 4 mins so i love you.
the one time you can unironically ask if it runs roblox
Roblox runs in Windows 98...
In 2006...
I thought you were a text to speech voice at the start of the video
Read more
DeSinc I clicked it 4 times
Your trick didn't work
You didn't trick me.
*Show less*
DeSinc I
lol I clicked read more to get a different read more
@Budget-Builds Official Great video man, it's great to see some of these machines still around today, which gives you perspective about how far technology has evolved. It'd be awesome to turn that machine into a "sleeper" Laptop, with more powerful specs, if that Laptop's case can fit either an up-to-date desktop motherboard, or a clevo bare-bones motherboard. Not only that having some of those old ports could be useful as a disguise.
Well, reminds me of the Latitude CPx and C600 that I got locally for $15 each. Both have ATi graphics that were also groundbreaking in 1999 and 2000 respectively. Tho interestingly my CPx came with Windows 95!
Toshiba used to make pretty good laptops until like the mid 2000s where they really started to cheap out on the Satellite lineup. My friends Satellite A200 is basically handicapped with a dead backlight and severely failing structural rigidity. Same is true for inspiron but still
My Lattiude Cpi still works perfectly accept for the screeen
Subscribed & rang the notification bell as well.
Happy to have found your channel! 🙂
Fun fact: An untouched Windows 98 installation disc will boot on itself without a startup disk ;D
Yep. it was so advanced because most computer BIOS's back then didnt support CDROM booting, hence the need for a floppy disk.. on more modern computers its fine
Unfortunately that's only for the OEM disc. For whatever reason, the retail version doesn't do that, forcing you to make a boot floppy instead.
Up8Y Thank you sir, that's a very interesting (and maybe useful) piece of new knowledge! My Windows 98 installation disk is indeed, an OEM one. That explains everything.
PS: I actually got an official Windows 98 boot disc for system installation a few days ago, with your information I think I finally figure out why :)
wait! that music at 3:30... whats the name of the game thats from?? some racing game from 02 i think
Sega GT 2002, an amazing game :D
Budget-Builds Official i remember! The one with the gt90 on the cover? Played it on the original xbox before i could understand what i was doing lol
Phoenix Ward lol
I remember that game, my favorite cars in it were the Mazda Cosmo and Dome Zero
Fuck me, just got Xbox original nostalgia. That OST was quite spectacular.
Your tech channel is the only one where I've watched the same videos more than once. Very informative and entertaining. This would probably have run Quake 2 and Serious Sam...both great games.
I own the same Toshiba Satellite model, but with Pentium III 1GB and 512RAM, build to use Windows NT4. The laptop have never been repaired and still working. Currently running Lubuntu 14.04. Even the battery is holding around 30 minutes charge! The best laptop, I have ever own. By the way, there is no issues with Windows XP with SP1 drivers of Trident video card.
Trident graphics were always subpar. I used to buy used systems for parts and the first thing i would look to replace was shitty trident or s3 video cards.
If you were buying the old systems for parts, why would you want to upgrade the graphics? Eh? Answer that, then!
Acer Predator 21x in 2033
vladosan boss 45$
No, acer predator 21x in 2500
*only cost 2$ cuz they have 500 tb of ram lol*
I have it but he is overheating, and it's not a portable computer x)
That Windows 98 key worked for me on my Compaq 1635! Thank you, now I can finally easily connect a USB drive.
There's an app that extends the 9.x kernel and adds XP functionality. That allows you to install even more modern apps. Also, try a few Build engine games!
You can see a bee fly in front of the camera at 0:51 if you use "," and "." to go through the video frame-by-frame
It costed so much but it still couldn't run GTA 3
my iPod touch can run GTA 3.
Great Video. I love this brave piece. Gaming on a laptop in 2001 usually was a pain in the a..!
Dang, that installer with the 3 vertical bars hit me right in the feels
Haven't seen that for many years
HD video is for scrubs
144p for life
*lyfe
Kerem hd is modern 480p is not more modern
WitherSkeletonHD und Mikaelcraftertv someone didnt get the joke
SHUT UP SKRUB
YOU NEED TO COLLAB WITH RANDOMGAMING IN HD
The scaling issue (640x480 box in the middle of the screen) can be fixed by a option in BIOS, that way the 640x480 get stretched the full screen. The Win98 CD is bootable (at leastWin98SE, that you will want to install) so there is no need to have a boot floppy. Also, PIII era computers decided to be aware of CD as a bootable device. Actually I have a similar looking PII that is aware of CD booting.
Win9x is quite snappy and useful for most of the tasks if one keep in mind the era when that OS belongs. I use my Win95 P200 for most of office tasks (word, excel on office97), retro gaming, listening CDs and mp3s. No modern web browsing, no mp4/mkv movies (at most some old divx), no DVDs, no streaming. Actually, I only use my main computer to watch youtube and to search and download old software...
That's insane, we've come so far in 16 years. That laptop couldn't even compete with the average modern phone.
You wouldnt catch me bothering with Windows 98. An old laptop is a great way to play some old pc games and emulators though.
I will say that this video took forever thanks to Windows 98 :D
Is that Music from Sega GT 2002?
Fattoxthegreat yes
yes
Fattoxthegreat sounds like it
Yus
Had a customer walk in today with one of these, seeing if we could remove her non-existent password but being that there was nothing to be done it was nice to see such a relic.
Holy cow, I have one of these! First ever laptop, got it for £120 off eBay in 2008. The LCD unfortunately shattered along with the hinges holding it on, but it's still going! Absolutely phenomenal machine.
I still own a old windows XP desktop PC but no one cares so I'll like my own comment.
same
lol thanks fellas and yeah, still goes harder than my $2500 pc
lol it’s not a “Windows XP PC”. It’s a PC that’s running Windows XP :-) Did you know that you can even multi-boot...? By your logic I have:
a “DOS 7.1 / Windows 3.1 / Windows 95 PC” (ABIT BH6 1.1, 233MHz “Klamath” Intel Pentium II, 64MB of RAM, S3 Trio64V2/DX 1MB, 3DFX Voodoo1 4MB)
a “Windows 95 / Windows NT 4.0 / Windows 98 PC” (Tyan S1696D, Dual 533MHz “Mendocino” Intel Celerons on slockets, 512MB of RAM, Matrox G400 32MB, Dual 12MB 3DFX Voodoo2s in SLI)
a “Windows 98 / Windows 2000 / Windows XP PC” (Intel D845WN, 2.6GHz “Northwood” Intel Pentium 4, 1.5GB of RAM, NVidia GeForce 6800GS 256MB)
a “Windows XP / Windows Vista PC” (Gigabyte F2A55M-HD2 3.0, 4.1GHz quad-core AMD A10-7890K, 8GB of RAM, NVidia GeForce GTX 780 3GB)
and last but not least, a “Windows 7 / Windows 10 PC” (Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS, 4GHz octa-core AMD FX-8370, 16GB of RAM, NVidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB)
:-P
I own two, so I win.
Maranello Santiago wow I don't care
"It was very powerful in 2001" and then says it has 700mhz intel cleleron!!!
+Kuntal ghosh: Based on the same architecture as the Pentium III it maintained alot of the power and was generally considered by many to be worth a $700 over the Pentium III which only really offered speed step as an advantage :D
In the late 90's and early 2000's, celerons weren't that bad ! Especially when you consider for example the 1998 celeron 300A which could be easily be overclocked up to 450MHz and outperform the fastest consumer cpu of that year which was the pentium II 450MHz while costing you only one tenth of the price of the pentium II !
Coppermine celerons can't outperform coppermine pentium III even when they are overclocked to the speed of a pentium III but they're really not that bad !
Kuntal ghosh 700mhz is for today very slow and intel Celeron and today say I don't want 700mhz it's to slow I want intel core i7 3.20ghz
WitherSkeletonHD und Mikaelcraftertv nope ! I use ryzen 7 1700 and gtx1080!
>it maintained alot of the power and was generally considered by many to be worth a $700 over the Pentium III
The Celeron was actually quite a bit slower than the Pentium III, like 10-20% slower depending on the clock speed and application. The 66 MHz bus speed which Intel used on Celerons up to 766 MHz was increasingly a bottleneck on the faster parts and offered diminishing returns in performance. The halved cache also contributed to slower performance, especially in applications that made heavy use of it. Another little known change is that Intel added a wait state to the L2 cache, further impacting its performance.
> which only really offered speed step as an advantage :D
There was never a Pentium III part that supported Speed Step. That technology didn't come about until the Pentium 4-M, Mobile Pentium 4 and Pentium M.
A top of the line version of this with a full pentium 3 was my first laptop. Nothing could kill this thing so I used it forever. Even ran windows 7 on this with only 384mb of ram and it ran decently, but the best experience I had was on windows 2000 which came with it, which I didn't stop using until Firefox dropped support. I eventually shelved it when the backlight inverter snapped when it fell over while I was working on it.
Actually Windows 98 includes all the boot DOS com files. It can boot directly from the CD (It was the first Windows version who was able to boot without floppy).
However the BIOS must support booting from a CD, which was uncommon at the time period. You might want to try tho.
*Insert unoriginal can it run joke here*
Microsoft flight sim
Thanks for the free 98 key. I can finally upgrade my PC to 98 now without paying.
Its crazy how fast tech improves. This must have been insanely powerful back in the day, but nowadays my phone makes this look like its from the jurassic era
That 'cow rating' is priceless. It looks like something a website in a CN show would use to avoid copyright infringement.
Could you install a modern linux distro on this laptop?
Dave Null kind of i mean you could run puppy or linux lite
Most Linux distros require at least 512 MB of ram so probably not.
All modern DEs require at least 200MB of RAM. That's not including any programs. It's not possible.
Dave Null Delicate Linux should work. It needs just 8mb of RAM wor the console version and 12mb for the GUI.
No. No modern distro supports those Trident chips anymore. I went through that hell myself.
it has smaller bezels than some of the newest laptops
I remember we had an abandoned laptop, it was a Dell with a Pentium III, 256 MB of RAM, and ONE USB port. I always played with it, and I even made it run Windows Vista (!).
This video just recently came up in my recommended list, and already like it, mainly because I love old tech (being an 80s kid) but also because you have the exact same main PC case I do. Sweet.
"No women has eight legs"
They do in your dreams
Budget-Builds Official haha! You remember xD
Dear BBO i have a low end crappy laptop and i was thinking about playing Half life 1 on it
i got the game on steam and played it but noticed it was terribly performing and i see that this laptop is doing better than mine (mines from 2012)
could you pls explain it to me
Half Life 1 on Steam uses OpenGl, which is horribly optimised compared to the previous Direct3D version, see if you can download an old version of Half Life 1, as it will perform great compared to the steam version.
Never thought I'd hear 16mb graphics card and the word powerful in the same sentence..
None the less, great find!
How about the Commodore 64s powerful 64 k of ram and 4 k of video ram. That is kilobytes aka before megabytes. Note I think it was 4k of video memory, so pls dont attack me. The point is not too long ago we got by with alot less. It wasn't always here. Aka a I9 or ryzen with 32 to 64 gb ram and a 6 to 16 GB video card. And 8 tb of storage. Oh, and how about those 30 plus minute load times from the 5.25 floppy drive.
@@marcellachine5718 i grew up using a pc with an amd celeron @500mhz with 256 ddr ram, and for what it was used for it ran fine.
I could hardly utilize something like 64gb of ram or an 18gb gpu.. unless you depend on your pc to make a living that seems like overkill.
Probably one of your best videos I'd love to see more this length and detailed.
Randomdance: Thank you, this video probably took me the longest to make so far :D
I didn't know Oprah Winfrey had a browser
And in the same year you had the Xbox with 10 times less money and 10 times better gpu.
Show me a portable Xbox from 2001 ^^ they're not in the same level
Thats not an excuse for such an astronomic price.
Laptops were too overpriced those years and noone bought them (from standart users),they became mainstream after 2005
Vasileios sure. But miniaturisation wasn't as good as it is now. LCD screens were costly to make, tiny hdds were hard to do, etc ... And most laptop users were businessmen which had enough money to buy one of these and that didn't need a powerful GPU either. There was no gaming laptop back then ^^
All that is true, I have a Dell Inspiron 2500, the top of the line, full spec model, but sitting it beside my Vaio VGS-SR29XN, the Vaio is half the size and more than 3 times the power. Amazing how much changed in 5 years.
Laptops were more expensive back then because, surprise, it was 2001, not 2017, and they were actually expensive to produce back then.
I remember seeing this build back then, seeing it in the shop. It was amazing.
When I worked in the service shop for acer, we used to have a model of laptop that was insidiously expensive. But it was huge and pretty slammed for the time 2006/2007). If you can find one I would be thrilled to get your reaction to it.
It was around the time we had a car branded laptop as well, like Ferrari or lambo, but I am leaning towards Ferrari.
I think it may have been the 9805WKHi, thing was an absolute unit. My shop reconditioned RMAs for resale as refurbished. So when one crossed my desk, I would fix it, pop in an HDDVD or regular DVD, and use it to watch movies as i resealed a bunch of desktops over network and had to baby sit them. 20 inch screen. Absolutely massive.
İts better than my laptop
Fidget
Spinner
Cube
@@theeduummpp madlad
This thing has cardbus, which is basically a miniaturized version of PCI. It might be worth trying to build some PCI eGPU enclosure to connect a 3DFX Voodoo to the laptop.
Wasn't expecting to hear Sega GT 2002 music in this video. My brother and I used to play that game for hours back in the day.
lol i have the same laptop and i have windows xp
♫Bartek533 you dont..
Fuck_x Boy69_x Finest example of a dick right here
I recently inherited an old pentium 3 Sony Vioh that has Windows ME on it lol. Was pleasantly surprised windows ME has an archaic form of plug and play so I could use my flash drive and controller easily which suprised me. I noticed it meets the minimum requirements for windows XP I might have to experiment with that some day.
yo that music during the Windows install is from Sega GT from the original Xbox! Unexpected nostalgia while watching a nostalgic video is always the best.
My dad had a work laptop similar to this , it was a Pentium 3 . Was a very well built machine.
These nostalgic videos and me want to build an old gaming system
Subbed after that command and conquer content! But seriously, your videos are super interesting and it would've just been a matter of time before I subbed, but the C&C certainly sped things up. XD
Your videos are so comfy. Your channel is gonna blow up soon enough.
I used to have this exact laptop, no idea what driver I was using but it would play Half Life pretty nicely on XP.
this was a really comfy video, thanks bro !
We still have one of those IBM laptop with windows 98 used to play Fallout 1 in it though the screen stopped working few years ago I just left it alone and it's now collecting dust in our storage room
bending the cable against the table when you flipped the laptop triggered my ocd 😂
Back when I was in school they had Pent 4 Optiplexes with XP and 2000 COA's on them. But 99% of them had Windows 98SE installed on them
Ha, I had one of those for some time. Never knew it was that expensive. Ran beautifully.
Seeing Command and Conquer made my day, thanks mate
I didn't expect to find the Sega GT 2002 music in this video.
>2:10 Windows 98's installer is based on DOS so needs a floppy disk to boot up
…it doesn't, though. CD booting was already a thing by the time of Windows 95's retail release. It only needs a floppy disk to boot if the system BIOS doesn't support CD booting.
(You can also run the installer from within Windows, though I *suspect* that doesn't work on Windows XP, even if you somehow hack around the version check, unless you're using FAT32 maybe…)
My father used to own this laptop back in the 00s. It was running on a Pentium III 750Mhz as I recalled.
I was sold one of these running Windows XP for £1 by my IT teacher back in 2008 or something like that... I wonder what happened to it? I remember it being a Pentium III though, and I installed Vistamizer on it cos I loved the look of Windows Vista.
Got one of these for £30 recently with the Pentium III CPU. Pretty nice machine, i couldnt believe it when you quoted the original price! I've got XP on it at the moment but I might put Windows 98 on it since i have much faster machines for running XP.
I still have one with a 900Mhz PIII I got in High School around 2000-2001. I upgraded it with 512Mb PC-133 ram, replaced it's internal wifi card with a 802.11G one and upped it to Win2K.
I even still use it form time to time as a stepping stone link between my modern days Win7\10 computers and my "vintage" hardware (Wins98 and below) as win2k is decent at "talking" to a wide range of other windows systems
It's rare to find a old enough laptop with a working battery.
If you setup Windows Millenium instead of 98, you get integrated USB support with ability to transfer files via pendrive! And 98 & Millenium using the same drivers too!
Ack! That poor hard drive when you flipped up the notebook while still powered on!
"LCD was in its infancy..." - Don't want to nitpick but in 2001 LCD was way beyond the infancy. I remember it as the time when LCDs for desktop PCs were becoming quite common. It'd be more interesting to know if it had passive or active TFT panel instead.
We've come a long ass way in 16 years! I wonder what the next 16 years will bring.
Great Sega GT soundtrack! Great video!
the music is just fantastic
3:00 Sega GT2002 Song ! :D This made my day !
Hell yeah. Install the Unofficial Service Pack and you've got yourself the ultimate DOS gaming PC.
I just want to point out the trident 3d chip wasn't proprietary
" you can probably tell by the change of clothes "
Like... you changed your arm clothing so much :D
Nice video by the way :)
Been watching your channel for a while and finally found this video. I just recently bought one as this was My first computer sometime around 2006 and I’ve been looking for information all over and just stumbled across this. Thanks for making the video.
I have the 900mhz pentium 3 model myself, let me know if there is any information you want about my model.
Another great video, well done!
Love the Sega GT2002 music in the background :)
Liked because Red alert 2 benchmark, such a nostalgic game!
no way! I remember that serial number in pirate cd that i bought in those years xD