Intel's Celeron D(isaster) ...The Most Hated CPU
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2020
- Hello and Welcome to another Budget Builds Episode where we're going to be taking a deep dive into the history and failure of Intels very own Celeron D...
So join me today as we throw a few modern titles at the CPU, a few classics from before its release, every operating system i could actually test given the time i had available, and well the authentic budget builds experience, where we take a proper deep dive into where things went do wrong for Intels Little Celeron.
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Specs:
CPU: Intel Celeron D 352
GPU: AMD Fury and GTX650, both performed the exact same, so no point showing a comparison in the video.
RAM: 8GB DDR2 800Mhz
Windows 10, 7, XP, and Lubuntu, and Ubuntu
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It's packaging probably has more processing power than the processor itself
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@@vuiupian nice
ok brony
more processing power in a cheese slice
I can confirm it did
Schools: I need to get one of those
Schools generally *do* have crap computers, that I’ll agree on.
Although my school is mostly running on 6th gen Core i3s, 4th gen i3s and there are a couple that still run i5-2400s, which are admittedly still decent.
*pained screeches coming from the dt room*
Wish I could help ya, Core 2 Duo PCs. You shouldn’t be running Windows 10... much less with the specs you were all equipped with back in 2007!
Our school runs 4th, and 6th gen i5s and i7s. One class im in even has Xeon w-2123 workstations. Fun fact: our library catalog computers have core 2 duos with vpro of an things.
@@Dimondminer11 Lucky you!
At one school over half the computers had unrepairable bluescreens.
Lucky. My school was using eMacs. Probably still are.
I like how the baseline for this thing is, "It runs," or "it loads the game, eventually...". Lol fantastic.
@E.LA.O anything below an i5 is an trash
@@Pablo_the_hedgehog Wow, look at Mr. High Standards over here.
@~Pleasantries~ I'm replying to you on a laptop with Core 2 Duo, retract that statement.
@@toanquoc3932 me running a Minecraft server on a core 2 duo
As a hardware developer, the joke around the company was to never buy a processor with a name that sounded like a vegetable. Later on, at another company I worked for, the product was used in a problematic system that had constant problems with a glitchie USB circuit, likely attributed to the chipset. This chip was so slow that you could outthink it yourself.
They were VERY buggy on the usb. My current Ryzen Dual core (@ 4250) rig had Intel gutz in it. The ymca threw it out! Had the usual Intel fried usb & Ethernet! With no wifi or SD card reader they were screwed.
My first pc came with a Celeron D 331, 512MB DDR and Windows Vista Starter.
Just imagine my pain.
On these moments, you start to thank the OEM to put Starter on it instead of the full version, the 3 programs/windows open at one time at most was the last effort to ease your suffering in a weird way
The pain has been imagined. Earliest memories of mine on PC are about a 486 when I was about 9-ish (DOOOOOM!!!). Had a Celeron overclocked to 733Mhz later just to play Quake 3(against bots, we did not have internet in 2003, especially not in a village of 2k people). Struggled for years with a Sempron, when every game wanted dual core at minimum. Still remember that I had to modify Mass Effect 2 so it would not get stuck on the loading screens and I had to drop I believe the audio quality in Half Life 2 EP2. Then there was the time I played Dragon Age Origins on a Fujistu Amilo Li3710 with the integrated Intel card at minimum res with a hacked dll I got from somewhere that lied to the game about what GPU was I running it on (it really did not want to start on the Intel). Ryzen3 2200G (no 3k Ryzens back when I bought it) + RX480 + 8GB 2666 RAM is in my rig nowadays, handles everything I care to throw at it well enough.
Imagine this Celeron D CPU, with 1/2 GB DDR2, trying to run Windows 7... Ultimate. Oh, and it was installed on a laptop 5400 RPM HDD with pretty much no disk cache.
This horrific build was my parent's first PC. They were STUNNED by a 4th gen i5 with a basic SSD... when I finally convinced them to upgrade.
@@nup5 Damn when we think about it, there's very few exceptionally terrible options out there for the general layman consumer nowadays. Like, before you could find those kinds of machines that barely could do basic tasks at all. Nowadays you may have something that the performance is abysmal compared to better stuff, but they all can just do the basics.
Of course there sadly still are some tho, specially those tablet based laptops but I feel like not as much as about 10~15 years ago
@@Kalvinjj agree completely. Coffee Lake Celerons aren't half bad, I know from experience. Even for light gaming. Plus it's 14 nm process means it BARELY bakes any heat.
I remember back when I was a kid, a friend of mine had one of these in his machine. The day he upgraded to a Pentium 4, we went outside and kicked the Celeron chip down the street until the IHS fell off.
LEGENDARY.
That will have been the fastest it ever operated. :D
this goes in my amazing comment folder
I remember when i went from celeron to Pentium 4. I felt like i had figured out time travel and somehow transported myself and my pc at least a decade ahead.
That's one way to Office Space a CPU....
You need to do pair this with the FX-5200 and make the ultimate, period-correct "mistakes were made" build of 2004.
It's not even mistakes, but outright abortions were released.
In an eMachines.
@@nicklikesradio with 256MB ram and a 5GB IDE 4200 hdd
I got myself a PC like that for my terrible gaming experience retro build. Playing some old games at low settings and fps gives me the vibe I had back then. Just need a CRT screen for the build to be complete.
64 bits this means windows 11 can run on it
The first computer my dad had was originally built in 1999 and got used for a good 15 years. I still remember around 2010 it would flawlessly run CZcams in 480p and it had a Pentium 3 and Windows XP. That really makes me understand how crap this processor is.
I had an old computer with Pentium 4 and nVidia GeForce 6600 gt, it could run heartstone and sunless sea in mid-2010s
@@victorbukhaltsev9010 I still have an old computer with a Pentium 4, lol. Surprisingly, it still has pretty decent performance.
You waited 45 minutes for GTA V to load.
Your patience is quite impressive
I used to play gta v on my Laptop, which uses an AMD A6 6310 with integrated R4 Beema GPU... And that took like 15 minutes to load as the CPU Part is really fucking slow. But 45 minutes is crazy!! Oh btw it ram okay at 720p and mixed Medium/low settings. Like textures and sone other stuff Was medium but lighting was lowest etc.
That's a average load time for it
Not if he had something enjoyable to do in the mean time. You can set something up quite annoying to wait for, do something not annoying while waiting, then come back to it.
OOF High
Next challenge. Forza horizon 4. Estimated loading time 3 weeks.
The word Celeron doesn't usually inspire confidence, Celeron D inspires a week curled up in the corner crying softly. Celeron 300A however... we all love that chip.
The C300A is what I'm running in my 90s gaming build. At 400MHz.
I was not alive during that time period but I heard that was a beast and a half of an overclocker
I read this in Budget's voice and it sounded oddly nice
@@galilool6053 goddamnit you're right
@@Dimondminer11 sounds like it was the ryzen 1600af of its time
Schools: *I WILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK*
School PCs are just pointless, opening Word would make them crash
Idk about u but my school has 10th Gen core i3
@@uvenarbulis1724 mine hase 9700 & 2060
@@uvenarbulis1724 fancy school
Thankfully all the computers at the college I was going to had skylake i7s in them
I used to warn my companies clients not to buy them but with the power of marketing Intel sold Celeron as something to have. Clients showed me laptops proudly showing off Celeron stickers and they were slower than the laptops they replaced. A complete con like notebooks vs laptops.
I recall that name change being something to do with how the newer, somewhat faster generation of machines having heat problems compared to previous laptops. Calling it a "notebook" gives you a bit of legal CYA in case someone puts the machine on their lap and ends up with roasted nuts.
@@technicalfool but what if someone tries to use their notebook… as a notebook?
People are mixing different things together, mobile Celeron is not the same as desktop Celeron and Celeron D was not just "some celeron" it was newer prescott with higher cache than previous celerons. Old celerons were shit, but Celeron D was pretty good buy, people don't remember how Pentium 4 was expensive back in the day.
@@technicalfool We always called it a notebook in Europe, laptop is purely american word for mobile computer or maybe even Brits say that, I am not sure.
@@Pidalin"in Europe"? Not in my experience
Prescott was amazing: it could heat a room with much less power consumption than a real heater.
I live in a no A/C flat in the hottest city in Europe/World. When I had my P4, I couldn't see in summer for the sweat running over my glasses. How I loved that P4!
Yeah, my old Prescott made a brilliant heater even in the non-insulated dump I was living in at the time. 1 degree Celcius, window wide open and a fan blowing air into the flat/apartment and still wearing shorts to keep cool while the computer was on
Primitive PWM fan curves would also drown out Kardashian ads and banzai buddy when under light load.
Well that is not true. Thermodynamics 1st law means that ALL the power that goes into a computer will eventually become heat, so it is just as power efficient as any electric heater.
New Intel CPUs do the same thing, only better. The Prescotts look energy-efficient in retrospect compared to 11th and 12th gen Intel. 115W vs 250-300W+
Celeron D makes even Pentium 4 look like a wonderful CPU
i had AL gens of P4 willamete Nortwood HT P4 1m cahce and P4 Ht2mb cahse x654 they were all shthit
Half life 2 both steam and release version ran at 40-60 fps on a pentium 3 coppermine 1.1 ghz
I remember my Pentium 4 on my gx260 with a random Radeon graphics with 120mb of vram
Pentrium 4 WAS a wonderful CPU. I mean, P4 HT.
@@cristic767 Guess what CPU decoded this video in HD :D. 16 years old 64-bit P4 630 HT 3GHz 2MB cache 800MHz bus.
The infamous Intel “Celery” processor: the quintessential bottleneck, and choke cherry in cpu form.
Powered by a potato
The Celeron 300A from the Pentium II era was a beast though. Pop the bus up to 100 MHz and you can get a 50 percent overclock on stock cooler. That and the on die cache (which was very new then) made it very popular.
I built my first computer when I was 11 years old, with the guidance of my father
The Celeron D 356 was my first processor and it always holds a special place in my heart
It definitely sucked, but it was the first
The first CPU is just like the first sex experience. It sucked, but it holds a special moment as being the first
My first was a blonde with big thingees
My first computer was a laptop and came with pentium p6200 Still I do have pc. Actually I bought it myself but I dont remember first computer I used but I remember I played much games on it
I have Celeron D 356 in my first computer too.
same man but mine is probably pentium something
"Genuine potato"
Yep. My first PC was a dell dimension 2400, with one of those celeron 128K L2 cache CPUs running at 2.4 GHz. To call it a potato was putting it mildly, it didnt run ANYTHING well. Eventually I inherited a dell dimension 4600 froma family member, same PC but with dual channel memory (yes that celeron had SINGLE CHANNEL RAM) and a 3,4 GHz northwood pentium 4. Night and day difference.
Those celerons were utter garbage. Star wars empire at war was one of my favorite games, and the celeron ran it at 4 FPS. 4! This is a game that will run at 20-30 FPS on a 1.4 GHz penium III. The 3.4 GHz northwood could run it so much better, 30 FPS with 3 AI on screen, that I refuse to ever touch anything with a celeron in it again.
i had an old ibm pc i had that my neighbors through out a couple of years ago had a celeron d 40gb hdd had 512mb ram i upgraded to 1gb 2x 512mb sticks and put an old fx 5200 128mb i found in the trash in it i ran half life 2 at i think 1360x768 and it ran much better then in the video everything was stock clocks
yeah me too it sucked badly I think the highest CPU with the old 400FSB MB was 3.0GHz chip or 2.8GHz if you could get your hands on one
I had the previous series, the Dimension 1100. It had a 533MHz Celeron and 512MB of RAM limited to 266 FSB speed. It was my computer from early 2006 until 2011 or so when I upgraded. It got to the point that I was using my cheap smartphone instead of the PC for email and browsing *because it was faster*, ugh.
Still have my 3GHz p4 Dimension 4600 as my XP machine, not a bad PC with 3 GB ram and a HD3650 AGP
@@somehow_not_helpfulATcrap still for 80$... the performance is awful. FX-8350 and low tier ryzens all have out of this world price/performance ratios. Granted yes there is a decade of time dividing but, if AMD can do it intel should have been able to do it better. I see it as a severe sign of negligence.
Its serious when even Intel themselves say that the "D" stands for "Disabled".
I remember how disappointed we were in IT classes through IT Tech when we were led to believe that the units we were working with would have Pentium processors and had Celeron instead.
any pentium is usually a better choice but intel became intel selling tonns of celerons and stock chipsets with onboard graphics each year
We used these at work for the longest time in Dell Optiplex PCs when they were out. They were god awful especially combined with mechanical HDDs. I finally convinced my manager getting the higher end and more expensive Core2s was cheaper in the long run with less support tickets and people not stuck waiting 45 mins for boots, 3 hours for windows update, and 10 minutes for word to start.
Back when I was waiting for the Core 2 Quads to be released I got a Celeron D 326 for $50 to hold me over. It overclocked from 2.53 GHz to 4.13 GHz on the stock cooler and it ran every game well enough during that era. When I finally got the C2Q a single core underclocked to 1.6 GHz still stomped the Celeron D at 4.13 GHz.
dude the Core2quad is pentium3 based CPU even a PENTIUM 3 512-l2 1.4GHz is faster then a Celeron D
@@punker4Real I had a Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.2 GHz. It was not anywhere near as fast as my Celeron D.
Hey, the Celeron D is still faster than an AMD E-240. From 2011.
@@aftertheelectrike1847 woah
@@mparagames yeah
One of the fundamental limitations of the NetBurst architecture was that it didn't have a real L1 cache for x86 instructions, so the instruction decoder was directly fed from the L2, making the whole pipeline very dependent on the L2 size and speed, particularly the size. The Prescott family was even more prone to this due to its longer pipeline and thus more susceptible to pipeline stalls, while Hyper Threading did alleviate the pipeline utilization in most cases of property threaded code, the single-threaded Celerons were indeed situated between hard place and a rock, exhibiting the worst aspects of the architecture.
Imagine a world, where it's 2010, and you get one of these as a handmedown and you have to get through 2016, while attending college, with nothing but one of these, and a cheap budget acer laptop.
And yet somehow, it freaking ran skyrim. Couldn't do a single other "modern game" but somehow, Todd Howard pulled through on that one single gem.
I cant imagine a world like that because I have always worked to buy the things I needed and/or wanted. No reason to settle for garbage with a bit of sweat equity means you can buy whatever you want.
@@fanatic26 I can guarantee that your bills were paid by someone else until you could build into a place you could do that. Rent steals away so much.
@@lobsterbark Well unfortunately your guarantee ain't worth a damn thing. I am used to people jealous of my success tho so carry on 😉
@@fanatic26 Alright white boy.
@@lobsterbark uhh thank you? Not much an insult when im proud to be who you are. Carrying on being a racist blaming garbage like that for your failures
I still remember the joke about Celeron-based laptops being "hand heaters with added PC fuctions". Machines lagging so hard even moving the mouse was stalling the chipset.
Ah the Celeron where CPU usage is either 0% or 100% balls to wall stalled! Good times...
I have the Intel Celeron J3060 and I'm at 50% to 70% of CPU (fluctuating) and in my Laptop there is a Intel Pentium N3710 - both are very good performers in Linux.
my previous laptop had a Celeron 1000m and this is so true lmao
This was the CPU in my first ever computer, now it's on a keychain on my bag with the 512MB stick of ram my first ever computer came with
-Raummann- you put a hole in your CPU?
I would try that but had a slot a doesn't have the same space lmao
I remember buying a 128mb USB thumb drive for $130 wholesale.
Smells like emachines
Modern sayings: You cant polish a turd
Intel: Hold my beer
how to polish a turd/shit
Awesome! 😆😂🤣
Maybe dont hold ur bad bear intel throw it away
Back in the day I would do computer repair for friends and relatives, and would end up doing work for their relatives and friends too. Whenever the celeron D chip came up and I had to de-malware the computer, or even do simple tasks, it was amazingly frustrating. Computers that had this chip felt like they were broken out of the box and no matter what OS tweaks, reghacks, or optimizations I made, I could not make these systems usable. I attempted to upgrade any of my customers that had it, or offer them anything that would be better for not much money, but much to my confusion several of them were fine with it and could somehow live with it. For me, it felt slower than a 386. I actually bought a slower budget P4 that I could carry around and install into these computers while I was doing work on them, because it was not worth my time to wait for something as simple as a virus scan or a ad-aware scan to complete.... It could take all day on these turds even with a 40GB hard drive! You read that right, I actually would put in the labor to pop the CPU out, put a faster one in, do my business and put in the labor to put their turd cpu back in. I charged them a hazard fee if they did not want me to do that, because it meant I was coming back the next day while scans ran overnight sometimes taking days to complete. Forget running VNC on these while a scan was going, you'd be lucky to get the remote end to connect after 5 minutes of trying, only to ping out, so that wasn't even an option. Nothing pleased me more than to pop open the case of a Celeron D system and see leaking capacitors, I could condemn it right there, show the customer the issue, and not have to work on it.
My stepdad built a computer with one and he bought all the cheapest components. He then got pissy when he realized his computer wasn't good enough to record music. Crappiest CPU I have ever seen.
Also I don't miss working on people's computers where their system is so bogged down with malware and viruses.
Its mostly just people that are pc illiterate and dont know anything about pcs outside using them for the work apps they have, they dont know their pcs are dogshit so they they are fine with them, because they dont use em outside of word and simple apps
Mr. Budget Builds got a near "top of the line" CeleronD with a 3.2ghz and 512k cache, Most CeleronD's had a 256k cache.
My instructor calls these "De-Celerons"
Konrad Schneider Underrated.
We called it the Celery. It is the cacheless Pentium II.
@@louistournas120 hahahaha 😂
I just scream Nooooooooo!
Awh avali
I used this processor to open boxes that come in the mail, I had absolutely no idea that people didn't like this thing until now.
probably the most processing intensive task a celeron d can handle
@@windowsxpnt2347lol
When I saw a client had a Celeron I instantly knew the money they saved by going cheap was going right in my pocket by the double or triple the time it took me to run things like chkdsk and Malwarebytes. Friends don't let friends buy Celerons.
13:20 Hey, I used to have a Pentium D 805, that processor was highly overclockable (some even hit 4GHz).
It was nice if you didn't pay electricity bills...
“AMD processors run hot”
“AMD processors run hot”
“No they don’t celerons do”
back in this day? they cooked too! don't kid yourself
Nothing got as hot as those athalons did. I've literally seen them go up in smoke because the heatsink wasn't tight enough. You could get athalon and athalon xp processors and mobo bundles super cheap at computer shows but NOBODY warrantied them against thermal damage and back then you needed these HUGE coolers if you were going to do any kind of gaming and back then internet was slow so to be a serious multiplayer gamer you had to go to lan parties but with one of those big coolers just transporting your pc around in your car could easily break your motherboard as many people found out!
The Pentium 4 was pretty darn good at this task too :-)
@@autohmae and was expensive and kinda slow compared to the athalon x2 high end models of the era. Thats when AMD was actually a serious choice when you were making a pc.
@@autohmae Never had a Pentium Processor (any generation) overheat and that is all I sold in the Computer Shops i worked at, and only with stock coolers!
I remember back years ago when I worked in IT (I still want those years of my life back, I do not look back fondly on those years) and even had my own computer shop, the sheer number of issues with Celeron D processors. Most of my clientele was lower end PC users, given the area was fairly impoverished, no surprise there. So many people thought the D stood for Dual Core like the Pentiums. Then the heat buildup issues, which often led to burned out capacitors, especially given how many people let their PC clog up with dust and dirt further building up heat. Worse, was when I had to replace a motherboard and CPU, generally, to keep costs reasonable I would suggest a single core P4 CPU, seeing how the Celeron D was a single core. Just getting past that mental roadblock that they thought the Celeron D was a dual core, that was a nightmare. Of course, if they could and would pay for a Pentium D, then by all means, but lot of people barely could afford a rebuild with even a single core chip. I am so glad I got out of IT and back to where my heart truly is. Restoring and preserving antique trains.
👍🚂
peoples are generally dumb
@@BaltimoreAndOhioRR dude i like your content
@@ZynoxTheGreat Thx!
I remember using a prescott cpu cooler on a Core 2 Quad... I could overclock it sky high because the cooler could handle it.
That's why you should be using AMD back then
The way to go in 2006 on budget: AMD socket 754 Sempron64 2800+ and overclock it from 1,6 Ghz to 2,4 Ghz for 50% more performance. :)
+Dalle Smalhals Yes, I said budget option , you told mainstream option. I didnt have money for s939 and dual channel, I remember it very good to this day. Had to go for s754. Differance was small though, particulary in games, it was up to 5% on same speed.
But ok, you're right. My friend had little more money than me and went for s939 A64 3200+. But he didnt overclock because he didnt bough good motherboard, PSU and cooler, didn't know, it is better to put money there and overclock. My s754 platform had much more power after overclocking. So I've found s754 better option in 2006, and rather save money, and put it into high-end motherboard. I went after a time for best of all motherboards, DFI lanparty NF3, it was king of overclocking in those times. Find good deal on it. Put it almost to 2500 mhz, it was rated as A64 4200+ or something like that, was way above in scores than highest line A64 rated 3700+
So , much better way was to take lowest CPU line, and saved money put into MB, PSU and cooler, and overclock it. You've got much more juice out of it. On userbenchmark, my overclocked Sempron64 had in single core score greater score than Q6600. :) But yes, it was only 1-core CPU. It was before Core 2 Quad and Duo line had come.
I was running a Athlon 64 3000+ (1.8Ghz) Venice at 2.6Ghz.
+Stepside1986 it was definetely good choice too. I could overclock higher too, but I was happy, would need to go crazy about voltages. As I said, differance was about 5% from s754 to s939, but motherboards, 2 RAM modules for dual channel, and more expensive s939 CPU , made it less price/performance effective as budget option. It was not worth to go to s939 in my opinion, if you were on budget. Socket 754 was better.
Way back then i to was firmly in the AMD camp, never had a sk478 i had a sk A (462) athlon xp, and then once sk754 and 939 launched i bought an AMD Tampon on sk 754. It was only until the upgrade after that when i swapped camp and ended up buying a new build around a pentium D 820 skt 775. And ive never bought AMD since.
I switched from C2D E8400 to a Celeron D336, just to use the E8400 in another machine, and I was actually shocked how much slower it was. It became almost unusable, despite running Windows XP at the time, in 2011.
Youd probably need a top class board to push FSB into oblivion and a really good cooler in order to get it to a remotely usable level even on XP
Agreed. Every time I saw "Intel Celeron" I ran away like the plague and with good reason. Sure, it was much faster than my ZX81, but then again what wasn’t. But hey, it ran better than the Intel Atom CPU which could barely run Windows XP. It makes me appreciate modern CPU’s so much! What a great time to be alive :-)
The biggest issue we had with the Celeron D was that fn P4 at 1.4GHz ran faster than the Celeron D at 2.4GHz....
I do hate this CPU indeed, I used these back in high school days and they sucked, everything needed more time to get done thus finishing our reports and projects on time was hella of a challenge!
zak benatar Nah, HTML and photoshop, It was slow due to the low CPU cache, Even saving a PDF file takes longer than expected xD
Try using a IBM 286 with windows 3.1 and 4 mg ram.
I remember these and advising clients not to touch them with a 50 foot pole no matter what their use case. Northwood P4s performed better and could be had with clearance pricing for around the same price and if you needed performance you forwent intel at that time and jumped on the AMD train. My own system soldiered on with an old P4 2.4b (overclocked to a whopping 3.8ghz) until I "upgraded" to a sad little Pentium D 805 which I used all the way up to when I snagged a Phenom II 955. Now just one of my 16 cores outperforms all of them even without SMT enabled. We have come a very long way.
955 is a good CPU
Then the Core 2 Duo killed the AMD train for a long time. It took until Ryzen to catch up again.
@@Dwedit Sad but true. It's refreshing seeing AMD competitive again.
My first "AMD" CPU was AMD under licence for Intel, I believe it was a 286. It wasn't till Super Socket 7 that I really noticed AMD though with it's impressive (for the money) K6 series. I think I also had an AMD AM5 x5 133 but that may have been later on messing with old hardware.
Got the Phenom II 555 unlocked to B55 x4, what a reliable processor.
@@Dwedit they've more than caught up, check the ryzen 3990x review.
I legit just got an old pc from my grandparents for Xmas. They said it was a “gaming pc”.
It had a g100 gpu and a celeron D.
*M Y E S P O R T S C A R E E R B E G I N S N O W*
It can play solitaire. Solitaire is a game. Therefore it is a gaming PC.
@@Gatorade69 and pinball
I hated this CPU for a very simple reason: I was given a PC way back in the day and I saw it had a "Celeron D" in it. I understandably thought that it was the same as a "Pentium D" MCM with less cache, and was therefore VERY excited as Dual Core's were all the rage at that time. Only to find out that not only was it a Single Core chip, it was less powerful than my AMD 64 Athlon desktop despite being intel, AND higher clock speed.
The "D" in the name is for Disaster lol
Nah, it means "Dragon".
I think it stands for Disabled FSB :P :P
no it's for delet this
Or for Downgrade
maybe "Dummy"
Just finished the video and I think there are only 2 uses I see for the Celeron D which are. 1. Using it as a Spotify jukebox 2. Using it as a warning from history.
A very hot 85W jukebox. I'm pretty sure actual jukeboxes use less power (not including the power amplifier).
@@barbudoru Do you know what processors are actually in those digital jukeboxes in UK pubs...? (Not the ones with the fancy app thing). I've seen an error message on one, in an XP Classic Theme style.
RWL2012 Probably not all that modern then. Maybe a Core 2 Duo or an AMD Athlon series chip?
@@RWL2012 I meant the electro-mechanical part of an actual vinyl jukebox.
You forget table stablizer
I found one use for the Celeron D that it excelled at - Running DOS.
For years and years I had a Celeron D build that took care of all my DOS-based program needs, and It. Was. FAST!
Literally the only thing a Celeron D is good for
Celeron D: "It looks fast compared to a 486!"
@@bluedistortions As Mr. Scott of the USS Enterprise was so fond of saying - 'Always use the right tool, for the right job!" 🙂
At that point id just get an intel atom netbook from 2010 and do the same thing with 2.5W
@@xentiment6581 netbook screens are too small
I've had intel celeron D 2.66 Ghz since 2005, and it still works, being used all the time since purchase. I loved it. Ran all the games from 2005-2006 aswell.
"I sat here for 45 mins making sure the processor didn't off itself when loading the game...." Laughed so hard at that like
The celeron D 350 was the first CPU I ran under liquid nitrogen. We hit 5.12GHz on an Abit IC-7 G Max 3 which fell short of the 5.22GHz record at the time. At 5.09GHz we were able to get Half-Life 2 running with a GeForce 6800 GT at around 45-60fps. I think we ran 57 fps on the built in performance test up from 40ish something at stock. Even at 5.1GHz it was still garbage.
There’s one good thing I can say about this CPU, we had one of these in our family computer and it performed as expected terribly. As such, it prompted me to learn a lot about computers leading me to build my family several workstations all featuring AMD chips. As I write this on my Ryzen 3600 over a decade later, I have one thing to say. Nice work, intel, you lost potential lifetime customer.
So, you had one bad product from one of the two CPU producers of the world and now you wont buy any of their products ever. Sounds crazy to me.
@@Superiorer especially considering that Intel was significantly better for the better part of the decade
My first laptop had Celeron m 1.73Ghz , 512 MB RAM , and onboard graphics in 2005. It played NFS Most Wanted, and NFS Carbon. Sweet.
To be honest, the celeron line is still sub-par. Not as bad as before, but still bad.
Yep, I have one in my school laptop and it is the worst thing ever, almost always at 90%+ usage, even when everything else is low usage
They're alright if you want an absolute budget PC. I built my parents a sub $200 PC with the newest Celeron and it can do some 1080p gaming(even with CZcams going in the background.)
@@ResilientME I can understand that but I would recommend a Intel i3 as the BARE minimum for a computer.
i3, nothing lower
@@khmerkandal121 i think the best celeron is the celeron n4000
After my first laptop that had a celeron i despise the name celeron.
I got my phobia for slow pc's after using a Celeron D for 5 years
@@felipedimas3551 How do you even get in a situation where you're stuck with a Celeron D for that long? Good lord I feel so sorry for you!
@@blendded6248 I was just a teenager at that time and where i live hardware is a bit expensive, now im surfing on a Ryzen 5 3600 and a RX 590 remembering the time that i strugled to open something back in 2006.
@@blendded6248 I was stucked with my turdy celeron D processored thinkcentre for that long too... It was a challenge using such a turd of a machine, you often had to get creative and think outside the box to get work done with it. And when it comes to gaming, well... it's pretty much limited to flash games and games that were made for really low end slot 1 pentium 3 for it to ever ran at a playable rate.
I have a.... Complicated feelings towards my laptop's Celeron N2840. In one hand, that CPU is a garbage that struggle running games 4 years older than itself. On the other, that thing can run something modern like AC4 with consistent 30fps albeit with very drastic tweaks
I remember building someone a Celeron D machine for Internet browsing... They were coming from a Pentium 2 and were thrilled by the new machine. XP and IE ran decently overall.
From what I've heard, the entire Celeron line came to exist with the thought of: "We have quite a lot of defective Pentiums from the manufacturing process, and many of them kindasorta work, so it's a shame to throw them out, what do we do? How about we market them as cheaper alternative to those Pentiums?"
...and that's about all that I know about Celerons.
mostly the L2 cache, but yes, a celeron is basically a neutered pentium 😂
All Intel "D" CPUs were disasters then...
JaguarByte Productions Pentium D, a dual core CPU in 2006, when I got it, was quite tremendous CPU power vs previous gen single cores. Ran perfectly fine for 3 years. Never CPU limited with my mid-range ATI X600 Pro back then
the only "D" cpu that wasn't a big disaster was the Pentium D prob
i use a pentium D till now man, at least i can game some things on it
The Pentium D's problem wasn't performance though, it was the power consumption and the fact Core 2 Duo released 1 year later, which consumed way less power and was more powerful as well.
@@Ravalo354 my pentium D heated up so damn much i heated a bedroom with it. literally.. had to put it in a window with the side panel off to game..
Man, this cpu.... I just cant Express, My emotions.
My first PC had one of these, and the fastest model too at 3.6Ghz. My memory of it was actually not bad, decent enough to get the job done.
I didn't realize a processor could reach obsolescence upon its arrival. That is an achievement in and of itself!
“I’ve seen [Terraria] run on far worse hardware, at least on paper” oh cool, what what frame rates are you getting from paper?
1,000,000fps
the smoothest experience ever
As fast as you can flip pages.
@@Cohee1207 so twice the fps then
Anything that uses Java or .NET is going to tax the CPU. It's basically like trying to run an emulator.
you have to draw each frame manually
The pain you had to endure....man, you earned my sub.
Thank you for the flash back and slap in the face "wake-up call".. on the D. Its made me re-appreciate my Atom processor
I use a 1.83ghz quad core celeron to this day. And it works like a charm for simple word processing, web browsing, watching movies and sometimes to play crap games.
Usually I’m the guy screaming about how good the old processors are for retro games, but you’re right - this one is so bad even I can’t stand it.
I wish you had tested more old games, I know it probably wouldnt run them, and the testing part would last too long probably...
But it was nice to see that it was able to run (or should I say walk?) GTA V.
I remember some years ago my phenom x4 gave up and didnt wanted to work anymore, i had to go back to my single core celeron 420, then a friend of mine gave me some processors saying they were dual core, as soon as the computer booted and I saw they were all pentium d's and celeron d's, i went back to my 420. I knew they were bad, but I didnt believed back then *how bad* they actually were.
You need to compare it to Coppermine and Tualatin Pentium IIIs.
They'd probably wipe the floor with it by the looks of it.
I used a PIII in a secondary laptop until 2010ish. Still works, just retired it when we got a faster laptop.
FORTY FIVE MINUTE LOAD TIME FOR GTA V
HOLY SHIT DUDE
I'M AMAZED BY YOUR DOCTRINE.
This video made me remember the reason why i was an AMD fanboy, my first PC was a Socket A Semprom, I recall how many of my friends had Celerons, and how they all feel angry at my AMD machine getting better FPS using similar memory and same graphic card.
Had one, matched with a *PCI* GeForce FX 5500. So that was a thing. Could barely manage to run Windows Media Player visualizations.
Oh dear god. At least it wasn’t an FX 5200!
@@vaelfonia On PCI, I don't think the performance was much different than a 5200. Massively bandwidth constrained.
Quite the disastrous combo you had there, I made the mistake with choosing a Celeron 466mhz over a p3 500mhz back in the day bc I thought, hey the numbers are close enough together so difference won't be that big..yeaah no, also I had a GeForce fx5600 that died within 3 months with crazy pixelation, PC hardware sure has come along way when it comes to durability and temperatures
Rasmus Granström NASA can gladly have my 2012 Mac mini
@@vaelfonia I had one of those then I bought an ati 9800 pro
That lag when you were dragging the windows xp task manager is most definitely related to missing or incompatible gpu drivers. I've seen it countless times, and after I install the correct graphics drivers, it works fine and smooth
Excellent content - cheers, mate.♦♦♦♦
Thank you, for the great video and review about this CPU. I was the person, who commented on your video about the Pentium D(isaster), to take a look at the Celeron D. Definitely thumbs up from me. Keep up with the great work. One can clearly see, that you put a lot of effort into making your videos. I appreciate it. You deserve more subscribers.
This is why I like this channel , profund review with history , specs , benchmarks , etc .
Can you do also more modern parts ? Like late 2000's early 2010's , like strange/go to(most buyed)/dominance at the time/new technology , GPU's and CPU's ? That would bem nice!
Keep it going !
i have absolutely loved my celeron d 346 pc with 1.5gb ddr and 128mb radeon 9600 pro, i used it until 2019 and was even able to play minecraft 1.7.4 with way over 60 fps and minecraft 1.4.7-1.5.2 at ~40-50 fps. of course i ran winxp and it became a pain from 2015 and on when less and less apps were compatible with windows xp and x86 in general
also thank you for using openttd theme in the start of the video
p.s. it never went over 60C under 100% load (i stressed my pc hard and used it to render videos and blender cycles) on a stock cooler
also how it can't run hl2, i completed my playthrough at medium-max at 1280x1024 without any lag
The phrase, "the beginning of the century", makes me feel old.
I remember it being bad, but I also remember some decent overclocks done on some of those, like 4GHz I think.
Still, bad CPU lol.
This video is literally just a roast of the Celeron
ZMAN Bluescreenofdeath No no no, the roast was turning the thing on.
I had a celeron D on 478 socket for over 10 years. It was overclocked from 2.6 to 3.6ghz by some miracle. I guess that's why mine wasn't as bad of an experience
A few years later I had a Q9550 which thanks 4 cores and large cache is about the polar opposite of the processor you showed here. I still have it in a small form factor media pc, and even with windows 10 it still runs fine and is still usable (actually even with win 11 for that matter)
I had this CPU when I was a little kid. It was very slow and sluggish. Now I have the i7 4790 and it's way better and faster.
4790 cool, better than my main gaming computer
A celeron D compared to a core i7 4790 is like comparing a ford gt to a ford pinto In a drag race. lol
😲😲 looks like comparing day and night bro, massive difference
that it a insane upgrade, but in the next 3 years it happen again ^^
4790 is a smidgen faster than my overclocked Ryzen 3 2200G with an R9 Fury
I had no problems With the Celeron D back in the bay, did for 5 years 24/7 my Geovision cctv system, no single problem.
Vic Green try running vista on it, enough said. 😑
I had those games running fine for mum on her computer with a 3ghz, 775 pin Celeron D(worth $160 in Australia at the time). My mum was a bigger gaming nerd than I was! The trick I used to smooth out game play, was winding back any detail settings in the game to take the stress off the system. I'd remove shadows and whatever else. The system I built for mum was much more basic than the one you have here, barring the video card, which coat more than the mother board and processor combined.. lol. It certainly didn't struggle to do anything.
I did eventually upgrade the processor to a second hand dual core Pentium 4 at 2.8ghz.. it didn't really make much difference. It did play a game it wouldn't play before, it was a game that needed a Pentium 4 or better.
The computer was running XP Pro with SP3 with 2 gb ram, a SATA HD and an ATI Radeon with 512mb ram(can't remember the model).. it installed XP in 35 minutes and loaded games and other software instantly. I don't know, maybe I was lucky and bought a good one?? 🤔🤣
The Celeron 300A was awesome, a true overclocking legend! I've seen people, in most extreme cases, push that CPU over 600Mhz back in the days. 450Mhz was super easy to achieve and it then, performance wise, was faster than the way more expensive Pentium II.
It had only 128K of L2 cache (versus 512K for the Pentium II), but it was directly on the die and was way faster.
Legendary CPU, it was really fast once overclocked, and it was dirt-cheap.
True story!
I remember having a Celeron 2ghz cpu in the early 2000s and that thing ran @ 2,7ghz all its life with no problem.
It was all I had and I loved it.
Oh man, this makes me so glad I was using a dual-core Sempron back during this era. I never experienced ANYTHING this horrible.
Vote up, nice video clip, thanks for sharing it :)
What plugin did you use for aiding the video decoding on youtube w/ such an under powered CPU at 16:00?
Already knowin this is gonna be a great video.
I fell asleep last night watching the latest episode of the podcast 😂.
For someone who plays at 144hz, it was painful to see this low framerates
Welcome to life of a poor gamer my friend.
I remember having an old Celeron 266Mhz... the thing was barely able to run the most basic game emulators or even image editors I used back in the day.
I had a 3Ghz Pentium D in an HP media center PC from 2005. It was quite a toasty system. Came with a massive factory cooler. I will say though, it ran Windows 7 just fine and it even did fine on 720P CZcams videos when I added a GPU that could accelerate video encoding/decoding.
I was trying to revive a celeron D that was on a PC my mom had abandoned in a corner, I want my wasted weekend back, not even Linux Puppy runs decently.
Had one of these branding irons back in the day paired with a nearly as bad GPU. TF2 sometimes saw the end of a match, usually the GPU melted first. FEAR was ok unless you leant left or right.
How do you get the hl2 2004 version ?
You normally need a new cd key (valve doesn't allow to re use cd keys)
When I got my first job 9 years ago, I went from a pentium D, HDD and windows XP, to the 4790k and PCIe SSD and Windows 7. Still running that today. Still on Windows 7 as well.
2:15 is that...the stock temps? Holy shit, that's hot. Windows hasn't even been loaded yet and it's 51.5 °C . I thought my old Pentium D ran hot..
By my experience older CPUs tend to run hotter in BIOS than in desktop. Experienced the same with a 2.53GHz Celeron D last year.
Maybe power management is off until the higher functions load?
i think the D in Celeron D stands for Desktop... at least i read something about that many years ago, i might be wrong though
Talvisota
Either Desktop or Disabled Disaster.
Universal Oddity
Definitely ‘disabled’. The things were a bloody disaster...
D is for Dreadful
intel purposwly named it D to mislead consumers who thought D was also dual core as per pentium d
m yu Knowing Intel, they probably did. They’ve made their fair share of fuckups in their time (and so has AMD) - the Celeron D is one of the rather large ones.
It was actually a very affordable and noticeable performance upgrade for me and my LAN buddies back then, we played the Deltaforce Voxel game at a LAN party back in the late 90ies and the performance was wanting so we all went out and bought a Celeron and overclocked it and the game ran smoothly for all :)
I remember when I studied at school and in the computer science class there were these PCs with these processors. Half of the lesson was spent starting the PC(With pir*ted Windows Xp of course, it was in Eastern Europe) and opening Word 2003. Then I changed schools and there were Intel Core i5s and in the classes we taught more practical things than Microsoft Word.