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    Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer-Home Daniel Gray, creator of a range of men's cosmetics, gives one Dragon a mini-makeover.
    The Den is one of the toughest places on earth to do business, and five fiery multimillionaire investors are ready to face a new batch of nervous entrepreneurs. Peter Jones, Deborah Meaden, Tej Lalvani and Sara Davies are joined in the famous chairs by former Dragon Theo Paphitis.
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  • @F1ntros
    @F1ntros Pƙed 4 lety +6380

    This guy was 100% prepared and nailed this pitch, pretty impressive.

    • @JoshF848
      @JoshF848 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      @@thomasblethyn9639 he may have asked everyone but they didn't show it all.

    • @AutonovaAI
      @AutonovaAI Pƙed 4 lety +58

      Thomas Blethyn he said he wanted two specific dragons and he got those two dragons, at a very good percentage. Don’t see anything wrong with that

    • @paintwithjonny5279
      @paintwithjonny5279 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @FinPhillps Agreed! super impressive

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen Pƙed 4 lety +55

      Thanks a lot - we think so too!

    • @jadex9733
      @jadex9733 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      War Paint For Men hi

  • @jasongoodacre
    @jasongoodacre Pƙed 4 lety +2305

    That guy has serious balls to get Peter down to 6%. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him drop his second offer before.

    • @sjoerdo6988
      @sjoerdo6988 Pƙed 4 lety +184

      His third even! from 10% to 7.5% to 7% to 6%

    • @garden4ork
      @garden4ork Pƙed 4 lety +218

      @@sjoerdo6988 His FIFTH! Original offer was 20% for all. Then 10% for half, followed by 7.5%, down to 7%, then 7% drop to 6% on investment return, and finally 6%!

    • @khansahib7110
      @khansahib7110 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      Peter Jones still the boss....

    • @cazz2006
      @cazz2006 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Chango Chilemba That’s some story, how do you know he just didn’t want to lose 20% of his company that he’s put his life into for a bit of advertising?

    • @GrandMasterKai
      @GrandMasterKai Pƙed 4 lety +3

      He had no balls to wear make up... A real man doesn't wear make up

  • @intrepidtomato
    @intrepidtomato Pƙed 4 lety +1331

    I love how they kept zooming in on Tej's under eye bags.

    • @StrobeFireStudios
      @StrobeFireStudios Pƙed 4 lety +38

      I've got some Indian heritage and I'm almost like fully white, but my eyes have baaaaags too bro

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato Pƙed 4 lety +17

      @@StrobeFireStudios so do mine ( no Indian), I just thought it was a hate crime on poor Tej lol

    • @lepetitchat123
      @lepetitchat123 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      The war paint has done nothing to improve his appearance, honestly.

    • @nikhilcruz
      @nikhilcruz Pƙed 3 lety +8

      @@lepetitchat123 He didn't put anything on though.

    • @sujaysukumar123
      @sujaysukumar123 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Thats an Indian thing

  • @TheInstitution
    @TheInstitution Pƙed 4 lety +1261

    The name 'War Paint for Men' is very, very ingenious, it creates a soothing thought for men to put makeup into their faces while thinking about the ancient custom of war paint, it creates a fascinating dichotomy that without no doubt will work! ✮

    • @fainitesbarley2245
      @fainitesbarley2245 Pƙed 4 lety +50

      Brilliant name. Explanatory, humorous and self-deprecating all at once.

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo Pƙed 4 lety +67

      Because it wipes away the girly aspect of this being a make-up. Instead he turns this into very macho, masculine sounding products.

    • @Immortal__
      @Immortal__ Pƙed 4 lety +46

      Honestly, I feel the opposite, I find it juvenile and cringeworthy. It shows absolute insecurity to try to dress men's makeup as anything but. Not a macho or masculine sounding product in the slightest.

    • @SirCanuckelhead
      @SirCanuckelhead Pƙed 4 lety +67

      @@Immortal__ The target for it is more manly men who would not wear makeup. The guy is right when he said the major female companies would have a harder time breaking in because well they are women's make up, men are funny but we are what we are.

    • @squodge
      @squodge Pƙed 4 lety +26

      @@SirCanuckelhead - I agree. And I think it's a similar story when you look at things like razors... they make them in pink and lilac to sell to women, so obviously the market is very different for men and women. The name is crucial - one brand of women's razor is called Venus, which sounds lovely to women compared to "Gillette Triple Action close-shave razor" which would appeal more to men.

  • @mattyoxborough3424
    @mattyoxborough3424 Pƙed 4 lety +2883

    Best negotiation ever seen he knew they wanted that

    • @ItsThatVogue
      @ItsThatVogue Pƙed 4 lety +104

      12:40 don't tell Peter and Tej that you want them after asking them to come down on their percentage, that's just improving their bargaining position, he got lucky they let him get away with that

    • @jim7771
      @jim7771 Pƙed 4 lety +55

      He isn’t negotiating procurement, he’s negotiating an investment/partnership, two very different dynamics. Both guys have a reputation to uphold, if he hadn’t said what he did, it would look as if he was screwing them down on the % over and over, and they were just passively accepting it. He was smart enough to compliment them, and solidify their standing and reputation, while asking for another drop down, so that they could do it without losing face. Business in many ways should be purely numbers, but it really isn’t, even if both of them were happy at a certain %, if they were forced into a position where agreeing could cast them in a light that made them look weak, passive and easy to exploit, they would have to reject it. The entrepreneur wouldn’t have succeeded with that last push without it.

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen Pƙed 4 lety +24

      🙌

    • @jed_91
      @jed_91 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@WarPaintForMen gd job keep up your goal the people who will need this brand will be manny

    • @variszarins
      @variszarins Pƙed 4 lety +3

      War Paint For Men Balls of steel my friend. Well done

  • @DarkCreed86
    @DarkCreed86 Pƙed 4 lety +2097

    I shat my pants when he started lowering the percentage. But he nailed it, 20 down to 12 is impressive.

    • @WarPaintForMen
      @WarPaintForMen Pƙed 4 lety +88

      Sometimes ya gotta risk it to win it!

    • @darryl2542
      @darryl2542 Pƙed 3 lety +38

      Seriously, I'm still in shock over how this went. Good on him.

    • @dingdingdingdiiiiing
      @dingdingdingdiiiiing Pƙed 3 lety +24

      If this in unscripted and real, it's seriously impressive. Hats of to the entrepreneur.

    • @BigWes95
      @BigWes95 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      A lot easier to negotiate when there's 5 offers on the table

    • @yellowjacket5995
      @yellowjacket5995 Pƙed 3 lety +27

      Even if you don't get an offer, Theo The *Fetus* will award you with 1 human fetus as a consolation prize.

  • @omorabedin3648
    @omorabedin3648 Pƙed 4 lety +1171

    No one literally no one:
    Tukkar: OFFICES IN LONDON

  • @foraquid
    @foraquid Pƙed 4 lety +977

    I love how this show didn't belittle this man's BDD and make it into a "feel sorry for me" section with soft music which transitions to the "uplifting" major scale just before his actual pitch. His problems and his overcoming of them were part of his pitch and part of his business, presented in a way that was respectful and interesting - thank you for not editing this like Americans would have done.

    • @smiglo112
      @smiglo112 Pƙed 4 lety +25

      Too bad the media still managed to turn it into "toxic masculinity", sexism in general and I've even seen a tweet saying something about the brand being made out of "contempt to women"...
      At least BBC had some respect to the man and I applaud both them AND the dude in question for dealing with all of that in such a professional manner even if he was, very likely, scared shitless going into the den.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Totally agree. Impressive when people are honest about problems, but we all have them, and we definitely don't need background music for them. Although if it was in a modal scale it would at least be interesting and poignantly tragically neutral.

    • @patrickpaganini
      @patrickpaganini Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@smiglo112 yes, this identity politics division is wasting a lot of energy that would be better spent putting financial crisis criminals in prison.

    • @jamesarrendell9517
      @jamesarrendell9517 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Seriously, I’m an American and I’ve started to watch this more than shark tank because it is far more serious and feels more authentic. If there is a sad story it’s never used like a sob story and overdone. They pay their respects and recognize the issue but still treat the entrepreneur like an adult and like an equal rather than a child.

    • @Viktir123
      @Viktir123 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      I'm an American and you're totally right, we do play upon emotions. But, due to your harsh comments about us, I will no longer be chatting with you due to the harm you have brought upon our name... so I'm out.

  • @viper2413
    @viper2413 Pƙed 4 lety +2189

    Damn, Jenny would’ve loved that free sample

  • @spreadthelove77
    @spreadthelove77 Pƙed 4 lety +1109

    The guy held his nerve and negotiated brilliantly.
    Thought he was pricing himself out, but he got there. Good on him.

    • @andrewvelonis5940
      @andrewvelonis5940 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      I thought he was annoying, but he pulled it off, so I guess we have to give him his props.

    • @stupidtreehugger
      @stupidtreehugger Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Yes. I'm just sad he didn't take all five of them. They all so clearly wanted him. Would have been an orgy of investing and door opening. Instead now he gets 3 angry soon to be competitors

    • @MikeCOYS
      @MikeCOYS Pƙed 4 lety +3

      I think it really depends on the product. They know the product was going to be big so they're making money either way and if they back out they'll lose out on the money - which is a bad move for an investor of such high potential product.

    • @lizzie17214
      @lizzie17214 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@andrewvelonis5940 I don’t understand how you thought he was annoying at all you sound jealous tbh

    • @jonjohnson1978.
      @jonjohnson1978. Pƙed rokem

      @@andrewvelonis5940 with you

  • @arreng2364
    @arreng2364 Pƙed 4 lety +246

    "a brand for men, run by men"
    ...what a savage comment by peter hahaha

    • @mareksumguy1887
      @mareksumguy1887 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      michael gervacio is that the brainwashed idiot feminist in you talking?

    • @fox2569
      @fox2569 Pƙed 4 lety +17

      It makes sense from a marketing perspective tbh

    • @aikikaname6508
      @aikikaname6508 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Shots fired in the vicinity of Deborah 😂

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Pƙed 4 lety +5

      well er yes, a mens product made by men...surprised?

    • @squodge
      @squodge Pƙed 4 lety +15

      And Theo still had a pop at Peter for it (just shows you how much he hates Peter).
      If it was a women's product and Deborah said, "a brand for women, run by women", no one would even dare say a word against it.
      It goes to show that sexism is only considered wrong when it's women who are targeted... no bigotry there lol

  • @kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512
    @kind-hearted-thievesjoe1512 Pƙed 3 lety +168

    From trembling bullied child to dragon haggler, the guy is inspirational. It almost brings tears to my eyes how brave this pitch was and how much he has accomplished.

  • @geooooooo
    @geooooooo Pƙed 4 lety +2145

    I am a small, round green vegetable, traditionally eaten at Christmas, and for that reason I'm sprout

    • @jevdawg
      @jevdawg Pƙed 4 lety +15

      đŸ€ŠđŸżâ€â™‚ïž

    • @sarahj6513
      @sarahj6513 Pƙed 4 lety +28

      I love you

    • @BuzzMeme
      @BuzzMeme Pƙed 4 lety +145

      Smells a bit fishy to me and for that reason I'm trout

    • @sjoerdo6988
      @sjoerdo6988 Pƙed 4 lety +20

      I make a lot of noise and for that reason I'm loud

    • @tomfletcher7615
      @tomfletcher7615 Pƙed 4 lety +31

      Sjoerdo that one was shit

  • @C-qc657
    @C-qc657 Pƙed 4 lety +613

    Anyone thinking of going on Dragons' Den should use this as their tutorial

    • @mrshab
      @mrshab Pƙed 4 lety +46

      Not really. You need a solid business with solid turnovers and huge potential for the dragons to drop down like that

    • @zakgulaid9364
      @zakgulaid9364 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      @@savidge8854 But the presentation wouldn't have worked if he didn't have the business to back up his claims.

    • @C00kii0
      @C00kii0 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Exactly, have all your basis COVERED

    • @killler240
      @killler240 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      They let rubbish people too because this is TV

    • @S0UNDWAVE
      @S0UNDWAVE Pƙed 4 lety +1

      C00kii0 *bases

  • @angelinasouren
    @angelinasouren Pƙed 4 lety +202

    I love it when someone comes in and the Dragons end up having to sell themselves!

    • @criptik5208
      @criptik5208 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Sell themself ? What does that meam ?

    • @angelinasouren
      @angelinasouren Pƙed 2 lety +12

      @@criptik5208 It means presenting themselves as well as possible so that the person chooses them and not the other Dragons. Usually, it is the other way around.

  • @waynecashello6503
    @waynecashello6503 Pƙed 4 lety +382

    Peter Jones makes a offer they all want in. He's so the boss. He pulls out they all want out

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo Pƙed 4 lety +90

      Not Deborah. She thinks independently and made offers numerous times when Peter was out.

    • @ArchieZeroOne
      @ArchieZeroOne Pƙed 4 lety +62

      @@Uouttooo Yeah, more accurately it seems Deborah and Peter are the King and Queen of the den.

    • @lepetitchat123
      @lepetitchat123 Pƙed 4 lety +4

      Proves that the Dragons are just herds without independent thinking skills.

    • @ArchZadkiel
      @ArchZadkiel Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Toukar has often made offers when Peter or even all other dragons have pulled out.
      But agree with @ArchieZeroOne that Peter and Deborah are king and queen of the den

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Don't underestimate the power of Jenny's " I'm out" too.

  • @djog7264
    @djog7264 Pƙed 4 lety +741

    He is actually a genius. How did he manage to just bring the dragons to their knees like that

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u Pƙed 4 lety +10

      Because he's fit

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u Pƙed 4 lety +32

      Fit man with a make up brand will make the gays go crazy whether other "manly" men buy it or not, it will make money that's why they like him.

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u Pƙed 4 lety +23

      @Jamie not really if his product wasn't as good as it is he'd of come across cocky, but it is good, so he didn't.

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. Pƙed 4 lety +35

      Fit and got a good back story always helps, but he’s also got a good product and a market for it, and he’s done his research and got his product refined _and_ guarded via trademark, I mean some guys arrive with the bare bones of an idea, this guy’s done some hard work fully fleshing it out and is polite and ready for this opportunity.

    • @user-ui9nj3dj4u
      @user-ui9nj3dj4u Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@Lumibear. oh yeah I'm not saying he didn't deserve the investment he totally did, I was just stating the obvious AND he can use his own face to model the make up = more money

  • @ezearinze2596
    @ezearinze2596 Pƙed 4 lety +714

    Sarah has brought back competition in the den. Peter Jones now 'makes up his mind' so quickly 😂😂😂

    • @PS-Straya_M8
      @PS-Straya_M8 Pƙed 4 lety +19

      I agree, unfortunately Peter Jones has forgotten his roots and has become safe and lazy!

    • @Isa-qh3ue
      @Isa-qh3ue Pƙed 4 lety +2

      I’ve always thought that peter doesn’t like Sara but I think off camera they’re okay with each other

    • @jackd9928
      @jackd9928 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@Isa-qh3ue Always? lol it's only been 5 minutes.

    • @Isa-qh3ue
      @Isa-qh3ue Pƙed 4 lety

      Jack D haha I worded it wrong you know what I mean

    • @koek1122
      @koek1122 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Producers to jenny: "you're out"
      jenny: and for that reason... im in
      producers: nopes
      jenny: im out.

  • @jdfj100
    @jdfj100 Pƙed 4 lety +219

    That was an amazing negotiation. From both initially wanting 20% each to then get it down to 6% each in a joint offer. Brilliant.

    • @deanomcevoy
      @deanomcevoy Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Klopp's Teeth they split the money so it was 10% each down to 6% still very impressive! I wonder how this business is doing now ?

    • @MR-tx7ig
      @MR-tx7ig Pƙed 3 lety

      Klopps teeth Haha brilliant nickname lol

  • @highroller9154
    @highroller9154 Pƙed rokem +30

    That negotiation was so well played. So many people would crumble under the pressure but he actually stuck it down, what a guy

  • @lolli4788
    @lolli4788 Pƙed 4 lety +447

    Suffers from body dysmorphia but is one of the most attractive and well spoken people I've seen

    • @zm-cartel
      @zm-cartel Pƙed 4 lety +9

      Im abit round but im very polite aswell

    • @AVRDXB
      @AVRDXB Pƙed 4 lety +24

      He's caked in makeup you bell. x

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey Pƙed 4 lety +4

      The guy's wearing a shit ton of makeup. Bet you wouldnt say the same if he you saw him without all that crap on his face

    • @connief_27
      @connief_27 Pƙed 4 lety +64

      Just because he is attractive doesn’t mean he can’t have body dysmorphia. It affects all sorts of people.

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@connief_27 Thats got nothing to do with what I said

  • @mylesbowman4718
    @mylesbowman4718 Pƙed 4 lety +567

    Very impressive pitch and negotiating. Hope the fella does well with this!

    • @ChrisChanningChannel
      @ChrisChanningChannel Pƙed 4 lety

      I kept thinking he was going to lose it! ... "ai ai ai ... Don't lose this for a few percent!"

    • @BroncosHQcom
      @BroncosHQcom Pƙed 4 lety +3

      It doesn't look like the company is going to be in business for much longer. It's being torn apart all over the internet and the financial information I've been able to find is very bad.

    • @bijikedelai
      @bijikedelai Pƙed 3 lety +1

      yeah but sadly the deal fell through and He decided to secure the fund from elsewhere

  • @wartanabadanooh7157
    @wartanabadanooh7157 Pƙed 4 lety +88

    He's such likeable lad, wish him all the best.

  • @BrianHazardVideos
    @BrianHazardVideos Pƙed 4 lety +79

    Maybe the best, most successful negotiating I've ever seen in the den.

    • @doctorpanigrahi9975
      @doctorpanigrahi9975 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      An online billing company made Tej agree to give out 60,000 pounds for a mere 1.5% of equity. You need to have a very healthy growth rate with high margin of profitability to make something like that to happen.

    • @TheJohnCooperShow
      @TheJohnCooperShow Pƙed 3 lety +1

      You should look up anyway spray

    • @BrianHazardVideos
      @BrianHazardVideos Pƙed 3 lety

      @@TheJohnCooperShow indeed. That one was pretty impressive.

  • @DonnyStorm
    @DonnyStorm Pƙed 4 lety +507

    Just googled how tall Peter is and i didnt expect 6’7, Jesus

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Pƙed 4 lety +68

      Jesus wasn't 6'7. But Peter Jones is.
      😆

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE Penister Mojones

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE Penister = Penis Peter, Mojones = Mojo Jones

    • @jblasutavario9549
      @jblasutavario9549 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      @THE ENLIGHTENED ONE shocking. I'm surprised that my comments have still remained!

    • @ZERO_Zero0
      @ZERO_Zero0 Pƙed 4 lety

      6'6 i think

  • @hamzahassan7851
    @hamzahassan7851 Pƙed 4 lety +325

    Tej 'tell me about yourself' levani..

    • @hamzahassan7851
      @hamzahassan7851 Pƙed 4 lety +25

      Well I'm 18 and I started the company when I was 32. First year, gross profit of £200,000, net loss of „128,000.213
      Second and third years...I don't have those figures.... I'm sorry.
      Can I talk to the wall?

    • @javadayaz
      @javadayaz Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Tej is wearing a wig right?

    • @hamzahassan7851
      @hamzahassan7851 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@javadayaz transplant ?

    • @javadayaz
      @javadayaz Pƙed 4 lety

      @@hamzahassan7851 definitely looks like it!

    • @craigconnell8234
      @craigconnell8234 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@javadayaz abdullah

  • @august4633
    @august4633 Pƙed 4 lety +208

    Everything about his presentation was on point: the pitch, the product, the brand, his answers, the negotiation. Very impressive.

  • @12Prophet
    @12Prophet Pƙed 4 lety +57

    Dude straight up stonewalled the moment and got the dragons to submit. Mighty impressive.

  • @Luna-xr3dk
    @Luna-xr3dk Pƙed 4 lety +188

    What Peter to make an offer first?
    I've just had a heart attack

  • @man-on-the-tube
    @man-on-the-tube Pƙed 4 lety +354

    He can prob afford the last 6% of those trousers now 😂

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      I’ve seen so many young Brits do that lately. I guess it’s a trend? I’m not really that privy on the male fashion industry in GB.

    • @plek3431
      @plek3431 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      Ok boomer

    • @zzillla
      @zzillla Pƙed 4 lety

      Dweebology Baaaaaa

    • @ilsejackson1068
      @ilsejackson1068 Pƙed 4 lety

      Lmao

    • @iranicus3393
      @iranicus3393 Pƙed 4 lety

      oh come off it :3

  • @rayhanreacts
    @rayhanreacts Pƙed 4 lety +90

    if Touker was here , he would have offered some office space 😂

    • @ayb100
      @ayb100 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Touker really tries hard to get rid off the office on the Edgeware Road :) hahahahaha

    • @daisiesofdoom
      @daisiesofdoom Pƙed 2 lety

      Duncan would sa, that he cannae invest, so hes oot

  • @irp2283
    @irp2283 Pƙed 4 lety +53

    I love when Peter says ‘well negotiated’.

  • @iamkaransethi
    @iamkaransethi Pƙed 4 lety +52

    This is the smoothest pitch I've ever seen on Dragons Den! 👏👏👏

  • @timotot123
    @timotot123 Pƙed 4 lety +112

    Can't recall seeing an entrepreneur really stick to his guns and come away with a great result. It would've been the real potential of the brand that made it not worth throwing away over 1%

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo Pƙed 4 lety

      You need a great product with massive potential and proven sales in order to do that. Anything less and they will just say, "I am out."

  • @sl2815
    @sl2815 Pƙed 4 lety +53

    That was an amazing negotiation, really shows his confidence in his brand and product and knows what he's worth. Having the guts to stand his ground in front of all the dragons is mind blowing. Well done.

  • @sophiawatson1970
    @sophiawatson1970 Pƙed 4 lety +72

    He was gorgeous, his face lit up when he smiled. Mental health challenges are ruthless! So glad he got a deal with a flawless pitch! 🙂

    • @jamiejosh96
      @jamiejosh96 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      It’s a shame because it’s the wrong approach, he should have received help to accept the way he is
 not to further the need for perfection. It’s a terrible idea, women already can’t leave the house without makeup due to the unrealistic standard set by widespread makeup use
. This will do the exact same with me if it will take off. Which it won’t, most men know it’s more attractive to look rugid, not pretty

    • @box5414
      @box5414 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@jamiejosh96 based

  • @borischan5252
    @borischan5252 Pƙed 4 lety +43

    this guy went to war and won, he is a dragon slayer

  • @GeorgeAusters
    @GeorgeAusters Pƙed 4 lety +61

    Why didn't they ask "WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE A ÂŁ1,000,000 COMPANY???????!"

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose Pƙed 4 lety +2

      How do you know they didn't?

    • @shahidmirza150
      @shahidmirza150 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      For 70k they will make allot more with a good brand and a chap with his head screwed on, no brainer for investors

    • @ToxicatedLum
      @ToxicatedLum Pƙed 4 lety +5

      because there are 5 companies offering male make up that are formerly known for offering female make up.... and a current cap of 60b that is set to increase by 50% - all of their videos are 14mins long at max and have obviously been edited down. What are you insinuating? Other than the fact that you clearly can't retain information in a 15 minute window or use critical thinking?

    • @ncoladear
      @ncoladear Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Apparently the company has had a lot of backlash and negative reviews

    • @romaingay-crosier7694
      @romaingay-crosier7694 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@ToxicatedLum Well, that never was a reason that stopped them in the past, was it?. its a valid point and totally unusual they didnt leave the parts where they talked about the company's real numbers. Hes got to be hemorrhaging cash since inception with all the design and legal battle involved for the trademark. It just goes to show that they keep what will help the companies dragons invest in and hide the not so glorious parts... and they trash the ones that dont get any investments to satisfy the audience love of "blood". This show is getting close to the american one, its becoming a trap for the inventors.

  • @evo5dave
    @evo5dave Pƙed 4 lety +166

    This guy was brilliant. And as someone who has suffered from acne for 30 years, I'm glad the need for male cover-up is finally recognised.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      This was so stupid and so lame. If you have persistent acne still go on accutane. You’ll never get acne again after a 6-9month cycle. And for any old acne scarring get collagen induction therapy like derma rolling or micro needling as well as fraxel laser resurfacing and actually Get Rid of the issue and have healthy skin instead of wearing makeup like a woman.
      Pathetic.

    • @evo5dave
      @evo5dave Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @@tinderella2386 Ah a medically qualified troglodyte I see. Roaccutane is not a permanent fix - the improvements often wear off after a few years: they did with me. It also has awful side effects and cannot be prescribed by a GP. And having collagen treatments isn't somehow being 'like a woman' but makeup is... Someone has issues.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 Pƙed 2 lety

      So anyone criticises the fact you’re a man wearing makeup and I’m an internet expert ‘troglodyte’??
      The effects of accutane are permanent. You just needed to run another course. But it’s well known that they can permanently stop acne coming back and bodybuilders and big time steroid users use it and have permanent acne suppression.
      And also, yes, collagen induction therapy, which you obviously don’t even know what it is is far FAR less feminine and pathetic then wearing makeup.
      You can buy your own dermapen and do it yourself at home, and it’s a form of micro needling that creates thousands of micro trauma to the skin and induces it to promote more collagen. And it genuinely works for scarring and stretch marks and is the Only thing that does so. I had a few stretch marks from when my mental health was really poor and stacked on a bunch of weight, and did it on my stretch marks and it completely cured them. Or perhaps according to you it would have been better and more masculine to put some makeup on them?
      I would call an effective permanent solution to a skin issue with real efficacy just sensible. I would call being insecure about it and wearing makeup pathetic.
      And I wasn’t even trolling you and actually gave you some real world unbiased advice, but no no, you go keep wearing your makeup.
      Perhaps you can find a handbag to put it in when you go out.

    • @evo5dave
      @evo5dave Pƙed 2 lety +16

      @@tinderella2386 I doubt there's many people who care what you think is feminine or pathetic.

    • @markchinguz4401
      @markchinguz4401 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Try nĂžie. That shit worked for me

  • @MegaReveiws
    @MegaReveiws Pƙed 4 lety +287

    "I've been suffering with body dysmorphia since 15"
    Jenny "I'm Out"

    • @cathyhanson548
      @cathyhanson548 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I love how this show didn't belittle this man's BDD and make it into a "feel sorry for me" section with soft music which transitions to the "uplifting" major scale just before his actual pitch. His problems and his overcoming of them were part of his pitch and part of his business, presented in a way that was respectful and interesting - thank you for not editing this like Americans would have done.

    • @dickbuttvlogs
      @dickbuttvlogs Pƙed 3 lety

      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

  • @jackmermigas9465
    @jackmermigas9465 Pƙed 4 lety +57

    First time I've seen Peter humbled. Brilliant negotiation!

    • @bradz5285
      @bradz5285 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      absolutely mind blowing

  • @stahppls2293
    @stahppls2293 Pƙed 4 lety +29

    "Can I see before you've done it---OH!"
    I love Deborah

    • @TrevorParsnips
      @TrevorParsnips Pƙed 2 lety +1

      You love her? Well stear clear you bloviating nincumpoop, she's married ffs...

  • @mashupjoe4605
    @mashupjoe4605 Pƙed 4 lety +35

    I’m so proud of him and I don’t even know him. Well done đŸ‘đŸŒ

  • @lynkwhat
    @lynkwhat Pƙed 4 lety +153

    I hear “pizza jones” every time he mentions peter

  • @hamzazaman3224
    @hamzazaman3224 Pƙed 4 lety +268

    Theo is back. Finally! Just need banantyne back

    • @mickobee
      @mickobee Pƙed 4 lety +7

      He's just filling in for a bit

    • @ChrisStoneinator
      @ChrisStoneinator Pƙed 4 lety +17

      Hot take, I prefer Touker

    • @carolburke9153
      @carolburke9153 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      @@mickobee because jenny's out...

    • @jlistergaming7880
      @jlistergaming7880 Pƙed 4 lety

      Carol Burke no it’s just for 2 episodes because touker was away

    • @carolburke9153
      @carolburke9153 Pƙed 4 lety

      @@jlistergaming7880 look forwÄrd too touker arriving back.

  • @juandocuc
    @juandocuc Pƙed 4 lety +27

    I have never seen Peter Jones relent like that during negotiations. This guy is serious!

  • @eddyram4932
    @eddyram4932 Pƙed 4 lety +53

    I been watching these nonstop for almost 5 days now, this has bee the most solid product to come up. Hats off the the dude, and hope he does great.

  • @hestinurlestari6729
    @hestinurlestari6729 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Wow, mindblowing.
    One of the best pitch ever.
    He got the dragons not only make offers but futhermore got them lower their share & share it. Simply brilliant.

  • @dansari0007
    @dansari0007 Pƙed 4 lety +69

    I’ve suffered from insecurity and body dysmorphia so this really resonates with me
    **Update: I’ve now bought War Paint for Men’s concealer and I can confirm it’s a quality product, as good as Tom Ford for Men** 😊

    • @majesty9985
      @majesty9985 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      I bet you're stunning too though.

    • @starb0rn
      @starb0rn Pƙed 4 lety +3

      It's what inside that counts remember Daniel, but I bet you're gorgeous! Everyone's beautiful to someone :)

  • @KarrierBag
    @KarrierBag Pƙed 4 lety +79

    Bloody top man, i take my hat off to him.

    • @CalmDownMyDear
      @CalmDownMyDear Pƙed 4 lety

      he screams toxic masculinity with this project yet talks confidently about problems with body issues, you can’t do both lol he’s funded a product that contributes to his pain

  • @Regan16
    @Regan16 Pƙed 4 lety +32

    If tuuka was here he would have offered him 20% and an office in London

  • @catjack90
    @catjack90 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    This is the most impressive entrepreneur I've seen here with his negotiation skills and absolute confidence in his business, massive respect for the guy. And for someone who said that he suffers with confidence issues related to his self-image, he sure has balls of steel, negotiating with Peter and Tej like that, total legend.

  • @adiiqbal8010
    @adiiqbal8010 Pƙed 4 lety +85

    This guys pitch was good, even Jenny wouldn't have been out!

    • @clevesimiyu9590
      @clevesimiyu9590 Pƙed 4 lety +36

      That is where you go wrong my friend. I once saw an episode where she literally said "This is too good to be true so I'm out". Broke she is that one.

    • @KsdmNeo
      @KsdmNeo Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Jenny: The product and pitch was amazing and for that reason I’m out

    • @Stinking82
      @Stinking82 Pƙed 4 lety

      Ok lets not go that far now. That's just crazy talk. I recently saw Australian Shark tank video where a man offered 25% of his company for $1. I doubt Jenny would have invested there even.

    • @Michael.Scott.420
      @Michael.Scott.420 Pƙed 4 lety

      AgileKhan just seen your reply and searched up the vid. czcams.com/video/vv98ZrEtzfs/video.html

    • @dotexe4981
      @dotexe4981 Pƙed 4 lety

      Let's not exaggerate

  • @ItsThatVogue
    @ItsThatVogue Pƙed 4 lety +18

    Peter made an offer without even knowing what the guy would do with the money

  • @DharyaGolu
    @DharyaGolu Pƙed 4 lety +14

    Best counter to the dragons I've seen so get. Brilliant. Dan the Man!

  • @memento81
    @memento81 Pƙed 4 lety +14

    Wow, starting of with a genuine bit of backstory into a perfect business pitch and standing his ground in a tough but never combative negotiation to finally get two dragons down by 40% (from 20 to 12 percentage points) of what they were willing to offer initially. This guy is exceptional.

  • @moreshi6017
    @moreshi6017 Pƙed 4 lety +170

    Am I the only one who found it weird that the dragons didn’t ask for any specific numbers like they usually do? Revenue/GP/NP?

    • @nt7863
      @nt7863 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      Mo Reshi I thought that too. No financial info at all

    • @nl1559
      @nl1559 Pƙed 4 lety +100

      Either it was edited out or this whole pitch was set up to tell a positive story. Fair play to the guy, he's done really well, but the whole thing is edited so heavily that it looks like it was set up from the start...

    • @KK-fs6hg
      @KK-fs6hg Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Well spotted

    • @Whiplashed
      @Whiplashed Pƙed 4 lety +51

      Usually their grilled for at least an hour. Just edited out

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey Pƙed 4 lety +11

      I think all i heard was that his revenue was 200k

  • @cr5678
    @cr5678 Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Very risky to tell an investor that you specifically want them since they can then control the negotiation. But damn he did well to bring it down to that price

  • @charlottebruce979
    @charlottebruce979 Pƙed 4 lety +124

    How on earth did he get bullied for his looks? he's gorgeous, must have been jealousy.

    • @splifffy5406
      @splifffy5406 Pƙed 4 lety +18

      He has 2 tons of makeup on.

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 Pƙed 4 lety +16

      Bullying is really indiscriminate I have found. The only way to avoid it at a young age is to relent to the bullies, adopting their friend groups, manners and customs as your own.

    • @mau5pilot854
      @mau5pilot854 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Vince Lestrade or like me, go to the dojo and smash the biggest one’s face in.

    • @vincelestrade3758
      @vincelestrade3758 Pƙed 4 lety

      Sean Mustang That’s what they tell you to do in prison.

    • @jadex9733
      @jadex9733 Pƙed 4 lety

      CS:GO Frags/clips wow so many jealous people on here

  • @davidmansfield9167
    @davidmansfield9167 Pƙed 2 lety +7

    JENNY: "I'll tell you where I am. I'm at home eating free toothpaste samples."

  • @streamsofconsciousness8651
    @streamsofconsciousness8651 Pƙed 4 lety +12

    This guy was incredibly impressive. His pitch, his product, his negotiation, I don't think I've ever seen a better performer in the Den. I've alos seen his product promotions all over facebook, he has the name out there.

    • @robertjusic9097
      @robertjusic9097 Pƙed 2 lety

      There was a dude that was promoting leather bags, he had balls of steel

  • @pumpernickel4429
    @pumpernickel4429 Pƙed 4 lety +8

    This guy was absolutely amazing. Now think about Fredy Vasilev and his Bathomatic business.

  • @colourfulmarshal8544
    @colourfulmarshal8544 Pƙed 4 lety +15

    I was dead worried for him then at the end lol

  • @AvelinoSilvaGuerrero
    @AvelinoSilvaGuerrero Pƙed 4 lety +4

    This guy and his business model is by far the best negotiation I've seen by far

  • @kayjay12341
    @kayjay12341 Pƙed 4 lety +13

    Chuffed for this dude. I wish him the absolute best. I hope I see this brand in department stores very soon

    • @CalmDownMyDear
      @CalmDownMyDear Pƙed 4 lety

      Kay Jay it failed miserably because the branding is disgusting, how are you not getting that?

    • @raalaa121
      @raalaa121 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      @@CalmDownMyDear It's in Suprdrug

  • @eliseanna6561
    @eliseanna6561 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Update; after the show he turned the offer down after all but he's doing really well. (even though he got some backlash from the internet.)

  • @deborahdennehy9937
    @deborahdennehy9937 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    This guy was amazing, so cunning & clever how he worked out his finance. Well done to you!

  • @Barberdon2022
    @Barberdon2022 Pƙed 4 lety +8

    100% best one I’ve ever seen he had the dragons in his hand the whole time and the dragons didn’t mind one bit 👍

  • @beanacomputer
    @beanacomputer Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Damn this guy killed it. I wouldn't mind giving some of his products a try. I love how he managed to snag that trademark; he could easily capitalize on the fact that it is a common name for makeup and branch out into women's as well down the line if they ever so choose. And his negotiating was spot-on, trying to talk them down without being pushy or presumptuous. I still can't believe he actually talked Peter down like that.

  • @AlphasPath
    @AlphasPath Pƙed 4 lety +42

    I think he did a great job and picked exactly the right dragons for the business. Perhaps the best episode second only to MoBros Beard Company

  • @SickGummyZombie
    @SickGummyZombie Pƙed 4 lety +10

    probably the best entrepreneur that has been on this show ever.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 Pƙed 2 lety

      Except with the most garbage and stupid product and most ridiculous business concept - men wearing makeup.

  • @jacobotstot2021
    @jacobotstot2021 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Can't believe not one person notice the fact that Tej Lauvani already knew about his business model before having it explained to him. He talked about the video tutorials and all that and the guy never even said anything about it. Tej obviously already uses his products.

  • @khandadonb111
    @khandadonb111 Pƙed 4 lety +16

    Hi I'm Tej "tell me about yourself" Lalvani

  • @thebastardgift
    @thebastardgift Pƙed 4 lety +44

    What a beautiful problem, all dragons want to invest.

  • @Bilal-md4st
    @Bilal-md4st Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Damn this guy had some serious balls!

  • @hilaryc3203
    @hilaryc3203 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    So nice to see a young business person with this much savvy and skills.

  • @kellysmith3581
    @kellysmith3581 Pƙed 4 lety +169

    Well they did make up in the end ...; )

    • @grahamefreestone5309
      @grahamefreestone5309 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      That made me giggle.. 👍 🇬🇧

    • @Vstrum
      @Vstrum Pƙed 4 lety

      Jeeze between the dragons den vid and comments section..you’ve basically entered the vortex of puns

  • @jim7771
    @jim7771 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    I’ve never seen someone negotiate Peter down like that, great work from the dude! Nine times out of ten, Peter would reject that, he must really like the business.

  • @PronkDaMonk
    @PronkDaMonk Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Best pitch & negotiation I've ever seen, super happy for Daniel

  • @JamesSmith-ij3jb
    @JamesSmith-ij3jb Pƙed 4 lety +2

    That's probably the best episode I've seen. He's so Confident and knew his own mind and what he wanted. The dragons liked him alot. 👍

  • @JCstock
    @JCstock Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Holy cow he actually got them down to 6%. I've never seen them go into the single digits before.

    • @tonytunbridge6275
      @tonytunbridge6275 Pƙed 4 lety

      He's selling 12% of his business, it isn't single digits. He did very well though.

    • @JCstock
      @JCstock Pƙed 4 lety

      @@tonytunbridge6275 It is single digits for the investors. Up until this episode I hadn't seen the investors settle for single digits before.

  • @dclark4422
    @dclark4422 Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Outstanding. I can relate to this man because of what he went through. More power to him!!!

    • @andrewvelonis5940
      @andrewvelonis5940 Pƙed 4 lety

      @Undoctrinated I respectfully disagree: He wasn't using his shortcomings as a form of currency, or using a sob story for leverage, or making a victim of himself. I saw it as a success story. This guy had a problem (though I couldn't understand what he said about that) and he found a way to overcome it and in the process realized there was an avenue for profit. That's capitalism. I doubt that the dragons would have offered to invest on the basis of feeling sorry for the guy, they invest because they see profit. That profit has nothing to do with how the product line came about, the profit comes from market availability: potential customers aren't going to buy because they feel sorry for the founder of the company, they are going to buy because they want what the company has to offer.

  • @MrDebkumarbasu
    @MrDebkumarbasu Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I couldn't help but smile at how things progressed. Genuinely happy for this guy!

  • @Faan-iv3li
    @Faan-iv3li Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I've seen so many pitches but this is one of the best if not the best negotiations in this show. The guy isthe definition of confidence and effort to change his life. Massive respect đŸ’ȘđŸ’Ș

  • @ryanbell4952
    @ryanbell4952 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    This guy will make it BIG. He knows exactly what he wants and exactly how he’s getting there

  • @hendy1978
    @hendy1978 Pƙed 4 lety +17

    I’m a serious pain in the joints. And for that reason...I’m gout.

  •  Pƙed 4 lety +2

    That was as good as it gets from the young man. Covered every angle. Knew his facts and his market. Knew his figures and negotiated brilliantly without being arrogant.

  • @tapiture3720
    @tapiture3720 Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Definitely a smart guy, stood his ground well. I’m sure he’ll do well

  • @kiray99
    @kiray99 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    That was perhaps the most perfect deal in the den I’ve ever seen someone pull off, from the pitch to equity negotiation

  • @Derek.Joseph
    @Derek.Joseph Pƙed 4 lety +7

    One of the most well polished and well executed pitches I've seen. He showed vulnerability and on top of that, his brand actually does stand out as a more 'masculine' appeal for men.

  • @antiholisti7353
    @antiholisti7353 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Like, he had everything. A good brand, growing business, no problems, confidence and was able to negotiate the stake from 20% to 12%. That is impressive

  • @IamGilgamesh666
    @IamGilgamesh666 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    What an absolute champ. Great brand, product, negotiator. Really happy to see a success!

  • @domjf6
    @domjf6 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    Genuinely had a smile on my face for the whole of this. Wow

  • @liggett12345
    @liggett12345 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    That's probably the best negotiation I've seen on dragons den so far

  • @nanda_8
    @nanda_8 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    He is a master in negotiating
    Never seen any entrepreneur negotiating this well in the den before

  • @archiedavison7237
    @archiedavison7237 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    i love coming to the comments of dragons den because you don not get all the random people saying crap most people have something genuinely productive feedback or comments but yeah this is one of the first times i have seen someone so with it he literally knows exactly what to say for each questions,

  • @frankmcgonagle6143
    @frankmcgonagle6143 Pƙed rokem +6

    I've watched this episode many a times. By far the most brilliant and exciting negation in the den.

  • @camd3041
    @camd3041 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Daniel is awesome, what a great guy. Love his commitment to the offers

  • @shanecormier1
    @shanecormier1 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Good man. Knows his true value and an investor can appreciate that.

  • @NialPowerCork
    @NialPowerCork Pƙed 4 lety +1

    That man blew the whole place away, brilliant guy. Totally prepared and then tough negotiator to boot, he’ll succeed at anything.