Since there was no due deligence done on the API, its a win win for this dev company, as they get paid for the work they done, and the app "dies" because api access is denied.
That is exactly what I was going to say. We spent millions of dollars on in house software and the FIRST thing we did was to make sure we had access to the data we were going to use.
The problem is Caleb just dove into this with very little thought about the most important aspects of it (a statement of work confirming cost, approvals of API, etc). This app is a waste of time and money.
There's a lot of things that the company should have done. They've been terrible at every step of the way. Suggested names felt like they were just created from a name generator The design his horrifically ugly. And a lot of it just looks like it was made by a teenager who browsed yt tutorials or paid someone a few bucks on fiverr. The lack of API approval. Etc etc
Sir Caleb, If you're not approved for developer program access approval with eBay or Amazon, and can't find a work around for getting the data required (that doesn't include web scraping), cut your losses and scrap it.
As a dev myself, API access should have been the first thing your development team worked on. No access means months of useless development. If you ultimately get rejected, I would seriously consider renegotiation on the price
I tried commenting something similar about how much of a trainwreck this is to watch as a former software developer and got my comment deleted. And even if PriceCharting approves this now, I'm not convinced they would let him continue using it into the future as this app gets more press. Maybe they would do it for a licensing fee? He may have talked to resellers but he clearly didn't talk to someone who knew something about app development before starting down this path. I almost feel bad for him and hope it turns out ok.
@@Carnitas123 I could see Amazon and eBay also rejecting the use of their API's given that the app will have functionality to sell games directly to Caleb. Ultimately, the cut that Amazon/eBay wouldn't get from a sale is more valuable than charging for an API call
@@goggamanxpYeah I had said in my comment that I thought Amazon might go for it based on it driving traffic to them though but you're right, once they realize he's selling an alternative way to sell inventory to them, they probably would pull their API. eBay lets all kinds of pricing apps use their APIs but none of them offer an alternative to selling there. Man this really is a mess. I bet he's publishing these cause he got some or all of the API approvals and think he's in the clear. But once this gets bigger, I wouldn't be surprised to see all three of them pull the API access unless he takes down the buy list feature. Not to mention I don't think he understands what it's gonna cost to maintain this app. He has talked a lot about not wanting to let people he doesn't trust into his business and here he is opening the door to needing to hire staff or at least manage a consulting firm outsourcing the maintenance for him.
Software developer here: Get coders to get the scanning and API to work, before doing anything else. Cut temporarly out any feature that doesn’t have to do with scanning. When that works, add in feature after feature until either you happy with result or money allocated is gone. Do NOT try to go in and change features unless really really really needed after development of that feature has started. Good luck!
The fact that they didn't suggest Minimum Viable Product is a little bit shady.... you don't go into an app like this trying to do absolutely everything at once... you start with the absolute basic features, then build from there, knocking bugs along the way. Either Caleb was SUPER insistent that he wanted it all at once, or the developer didn't educate him correctly.
Hi Caleb it's Hater Hank here! Just letting you know the API should have been the first thing you should have taken care of! You should have made a video asking for advice from all your Sub's before jumping into this and releasing videos 6 months later. Sorry its not going well for you
You know what he's doing... He's doing this bullshit journey to bring your hopes down and then he will of course gain API approval and then be like boom pay £30 a month, I'm awesome... Caleb showing his true colours in this, he may lose quite a lot of support from this venture
Caleb, are you going to add different sections? for instance, Gameye has a section for games, but it also has systems, print (magazines, walk-throughs, admittedly this section lacks a lot), and even toys-to-life ( for amiibos, infinity, skylanders, etc). I always wished they kept adding sections for statues or vinyls
why would he do that? This hwole thing was a veiled vehicle for his buylist and if he doesn't sell it, why would his app support it? Same with toys or comics or TCG's.
I thought this was a strange app concept at the beginning because you seemed to overlook that eBay , Amazon and price charting have their own platforms for customers to check prices. I was expecting to be surprised that you had already checked this! But you are a game trader , so that’s what oneup should be. A place for people to sell to you and buy from you. When that’s successful sell licenses for others to do the same internationally?
Your initial MVP should be a quick flip feature based on the website rather than an app!! All the features that you mentioned already have alternative options. Additional features add more costs. I hope you have someone who is not your reseller friend but someone who has a developer or PM background and can give you some thoughtful suggestions.
Loving the series Caleb, I'm sure whatever the app ends up being will be great. Lot's of great ideas here. Would be cool to see it evolve past games and in to more areas of flipping one day.
not getting the API approval first is one stop short of forgetting to check if the website name is available. Your dev team should be ashamed of themselves! I know in the end, it's your responsibility but these people have taken advantage of you and how nice of a person you are. I'm truly sorry this all has happened to you when I know you had the best of intentions. Good luck and God bless
Can’t you have those features on a website without the licensing? Maybe within the app you can have a link to your website that does all that number crunching for eBay, price, charting, and Amazon. Maybe that’s a work around? Keep working out of Caleb! ✊🏾💪🏾🤞🏾
You're on to something here - you have specific games/platforms that are in your wheelhouse, you know, and you can effectively resell. There are some games/platforms that don't work as effectively with your business model, but, from time to time people want to send you. As someone who is always buying a specific niche that I know you pass on, I would potentially be someone interested as a buyer partner. I know others would also emerge to fill out the "buy list" beyond what you prefer to work with.
I guess what I mean is you probably don’t need an app to do that eBay, price, charting, Amazon. A website could handle all that stuff which people can access Safari via mobile. I think an app that just does all the bulk deals and you’re resale business still be worth it and less stressful. I still think that the website idea could be a workaround for the other element. Both entities separate have their own value to resellers and gamers I like.
I know your a big fan of the lots feature but should prioritize perfecting the other features in my opinion. It’s more common for sellers to look for a quick flip for a couple games vs 20+ games. Why spend time on a feature that will be hardly be used
Its good that you are trying to implement your own buy list with the app, but I feel it's too much of a "being scared tactic". An app like this can be indispensable to someone in the other side of the world, or also your neighbour, that has no plans of selling any games whatsoever - or selling them to you. You are introducing a hugely obscure factor here (free months for selling you games), that normally wouldn't apply at 0.1% of the app's user base.
Not being fully prepared and not understanding what you should do when coordinating with a DEV team (like getting a signed statement of work as a top priority) is going to cost you...a lot...In the long run. You really failed at doing your due diligence on this process before driving head first into it. Anyone that has worked in a structured IT/Tech consulting environment before could've probably guided you through this process and saved you money at the same time.
And my immediate concern about legal sourcing of pricing IP from large corporations is proving to be correct. I really hope this somehow works for Phoenix. I’m surprised no one else brought this up to him before so much money and time was spent.
The fact that he kept the project under wraps to his CZcams viewers for months is maddening. Software Developers such as myself and others keep commenting about how poorly this was approached from a development perspective, yet it's useless if the video is months old
Caleb has a bunch of “yes men” around him right now. All the people around him get something from the relationship. Things like being featured in videos for exposure or being part of his buyer list. He’s got no one in his camp that is telling him anything negative.
Yeah, this is remarkable how poorly planned he was. It's not like leaking this app idea would have brought on a ton of competitors if he had made in public earlier. It generally seems like a bad idea that most people would stay away from.
especially since he uses accelerlist for amazon, which has to be connected and uses their API so he should have known this was the first hurdle. All he cared about was the money he figured he'd make by integrating his buylist so his greed blinded him.
$250 in sales to have access to the app. Seems pretty excessive to me. Why not just have an actual paywall with a nominal fee and or a feature that allows you to approve or pre approve people who sell to you?
I hope you get approval for the API or you will have wasted tens of thousands of dollars. I also think you should talk about renegotiating the price if you don't get approved. We are hopeful you get approved, but if you don't i'm not sure this will have much appeal.
This has overall been done very poorly i feel. The be-all-end-all feature of including a sell to you option is still the worst possible thing you could have added. After saying you didnt want it closely related to you, i feel you did the exact opposite. This is a glorified buy list and thats it
Continuing the other comment. Maybe you can ask the devs if they can make an app for your computer that whenever you go to amazon or ebay, it checks the prices of the games you have in the excell and refresshes the file in the computer.
Maybe, He commits the most critical investment error: never concentrate all your resources in one place. It's essential to diversify your investments to mitigate the risk of total loss. This is a fundamental mistake often made by novice investors.
@@bizzNES17 Those other apps aren't charging $50 a month to look up what is free information on competing apps. Good job not realizing what a scam is lol.
I think you are digging your own grave. The amount of money you are spending is substantial. There´s a "way" around the api thing but it would give you some work. You would have to make your own list of prices of the games in amazon and ebay and have a file, an excell or jason with those prices and your app would get the prices from there. You had to check every day or so, if the prices were different and refresh the file. I know, a lot of work but its a way around.
Why are people so negative? Dude is tryna what people haven't yet I know there's other collectors apps but they are all paid and this collector's tier will be free! God bless your app, my friend!🎂
@@samuelrocha8652 That happens when you lie to people in one video and come out and tell us about the lie in a future one. Example: he said he wanted this to revolutionize the reselling world and that he didnt want it to be about him (his marketing team brought him names associated with his channel) he then turns around and makes it all about him by adding in "QuickFlips". it is clear this was always going to be a vehicle to hock people his buylist. the man does a million in sales and thinks "i need to grow even more despite being at a great place in my business" when he could stay where he is an live a more than comfortable life. Yeah people want him to fail for being a greedy schmuck.
The company you hired should have made API approval the first priority before sinking time and money into the app…
Since there was no due deligence done on the API, its a win win for this dev company, as they get paid for the work they done, and the app "dies" because api access is denied.
That is exactly what I was going to say. We spent millions of dollars on in house software and the FIRST thing we did was to make sure we had access to the data we were going to use.
The problem is Caleb just dove into this with very little thought about the most important aspects of it (a statement of work confirming cost, approvals of API, etc). This app is a waste of time and money.
There's a lot of things that the company should have done.
They've been terrible at every step of the way.
Suggested names felt like they were just created from a name generator
The design his horrifically ugly. And a lot of it just looks like it was made by a teenager who browsed yt tutorials or paid someone a few bucks on fiverr.
The lack of API approval.
Etc etc
Sir Caleb, If you're not approved for developer program access approval with eBay or Amazon, and can't find a work around for getting the data required (that doesn't include web scraping), cut your losses and scrap it.
As a dev myself, API access should have been the first thing your development team worked on. No access means months of useless development.
If you ultimately get rejected, I would seriously consider renegotiation on the price
I tried commenting something similar about how much of a trainwreck this is to watch as a former software developer and got my comment deleted. And even if PriceCharting approves this now, I'm not convinced they would let him continue using it into the future as this app gets more press. Maybe they would do it for a licensing fee?
He may have talked to resellers but he clearly didn't talk to someone who knew something about app development before starting down this path. I almost feel bad for him and hope it turns out ok.
@@Carnitas123 I could see Amazon and eBay also rejecting the use of their API's given that the app will have functionality to sell games directly to Caleb. Ultimately, the cut that Amazon/eBay wouldn't get from a sale is more valuable than charging for an API call
@@goggamanxpYeah I had said in my comment that I thought Amazon might go for it based on it driving traffic to them though but you're right, once they realize he's selling an alternative way to sell inventory to them, they probably would pull their API. eBay lets all kinds of pricing apps use their APIs but none of them offer an alternative to selling there.
Man this really is a mess. I bet he's publishing these cause he got some or all of the API approvals and think he's in the clear. But once this gets bigger, I wouldn't be surprised to see all three of them pull the API access unless he takes down the buy list feature.
Not to mention I don't think he understands what it's gonna cost to maintain this app. He has talked a lot about not wanting to let people he doesn't trust into his business and here he is opening the door to needing to hire staff or at least manage a consulting firm outsourcing the maintenance for him.
@@Carnitas123its funny that he deleted your comment because he knows that you were right, this guy is a complete clown
@@MainsterrIt probably wasn’t even him, YT algorithms delete a lot of comments automatically
Software developer here:
Get coders to get the scanning and API to work, before doing anything else. Cut temporarly out any feature that doesn’t have to do with scanning.
When that works, add in feature after feature until either you happy with result or money allocated is gone. Do NOT try to go in and change features unless really really really needed after development of that feature has started. Good luck!
The fact that they didn't suggest Minimum Viable Product is a little bit shady.... you don't go into an app like this trying to do absolutely everything at once... you start with the absolute basic features, then build from there, knocking bugs along the way. Either Caleb was SUPER insistent that he wanted it all at once, or the developer didn't educate him correctly.
Hi Caleb it's Hater Hank here! Just letting you know the API should have been the first thing you should have taken care of! You should have made a video asking for advice from all your Sub's before jumping into this and releasing videos 6 months later. Sorry its not going well for you
You should not have done any of the major work on the app until you got the API access. Without that your app is worthless.
You know what he's doing... He's doing this bullshit journey to bring your hopes down and then he will of course gain API approval and then be like boom pay £30 a month, I'm awesome... Caleb showing his true colours in this, he may lose quite a lot of support from this venture
Is Editor Riff included the riff raff you mentioned? 😅
Price charting has a lot calculating feature, have you not seen this?
Caleb,
are you going to add different sections? for instance, Gameye has a section for games, but it also has systems, print (magazines, walk-throughs, admittedly this section lacks a lot), and even toys-to-life ( for amiibos, infinity, skylanders, etc). I always wished they kept adding sections for statues or vinyls
why would he do that? This hwole thing was a veiled vehicle for his buylist and if he doesn't sell it, why would his app support it? Same with toys or comics or TCG's.
There are web designers that can do what these app people are doing for less money. Good luck, brother!
Hi, food for thought for the selling portion, is it worth integrating pirate ship for an estimated cost to ship the package to you?
I thought this was a strange app concept at the beginning because you seemed to overlook that eBay , Amazon and price charting have their own platforms for customers to check prices. I was expecting to be surprised that you had already checked this! But you are a game trader , so that’s what oneup should be. A place for people to sell to you and buy from you. When that’s successful sell licenses for others to do the same internationally?
Your initial MVP should be a quick flip feature based on the website rather than an app!! All the features that you mentioned already have alternative options. Additional features add more costs. I hope you have someone who is not your reseller friend but someone who has a developer or PM background and can give you some thoughtful suggestions.
Also, I am curious about the tech specs for your app. Is the app well-coded so that it's scalable? And what about server costs? etc.
Loving the series Caleb, I'm sure whatever the app ends up being will be great. Lot's of great ideas here. Would be cool to see it evolve past games and in to more areas of flipping one day.
not getting the API approval first is one stop short of forgetting to check if the website name is available. Your dev team should be ashamed of themselves! I know in the end, it's your responsibility but these people have taken advantage of you and how nice of a person you are. I'm truly sorry this all has happened to you when I know you had the best of intentions. Good luck and God bless
Can’t you have those features on a website without the licensing? Maybe within the app you can have a link to your website that does all that number crunching for eBay, price, charting, and Amazon. Maybe that’s a work around? Keep working out of Caleb! ✊🏾💪🏾🤞🏾
You're on to something here - you have specific games/platforms that are in your wheelhouse, you know, and you can effectively resell. There are some games/platforms that don't work as effectively with your business model, but, from time to time people want to send you. As someone who is always buying a specific niche that I know you pass on, I would potentially be someone interested as a buyer partner. I know others would also emerge to fill out the "buy list" beyond what you prefer to work with.
I guess what I mean is you probably don’t need an app to do that eBay, price, charting, Amazon. A website could handle all that stuff which people can access Safari via mobile. I think an app that just does all the bulk deals and you’re resale business still be worth it and less stressful. I still think that the website idea could be a workaround for the other element. Both entities separate have their own value to resellers and gamers I like.
I know your a big fan of the lots feature but should prioritize perfecting the other features in my opinion. It’s more common for sellers to look for a quick flip for a couple games vs 20+ games.
Why spend time on a feature that will be hardly be used
Its good that you are trying to implement your own buy list with the app, but I feel it's too much of a "being scared tactic". An app like this can be indispensable to someone in the other side of the world, or also your neighbour, that has no plans of selling any games whatsoever - or selling them to you. You are introducing a hugely obscure factor here (free months for selling you games), that normally wouldn't apply at 0.1% of the app's user base.
Don't forget the currency exchange feature :)
monotone color mode option please.
You chipping in a couple grand for the modification/addition?
@@Erati243 If I get a return from being an investor, sure.
I'll tell you where it left my brain and then all the bird are chirping.😂😂😂
Not being fully prepared and not understanding what you should do when coordinating with a DEV team (like getting a signed statement of work as a top priority) is going to cost you...a lot...In the long run. You really failed at doing your due diligence on this process before driving head first into it.
Anyone that has worked in a structured IT/Tech consulting environment before could've probably guided you through this process and saved you money at the same time.
Maybe he should open up a oneUp channel on CZcams
And my immediate concern about legal sourcing of pricing IP from large corporations is proving to be correct. I really hope this somehow works for Phoenix. I’m surprised no one else brought this up to him before so much money and time was spent.
The fact that he kept the project under wraps to his CZcams viewers for months is maddening. Software Developers such as myself and others keep commenting about how poorly this was approached from a development perspective, yet it's useless if the video is months old
Caleb has a bunch of “yes men” around him right now. All the people around him get something from the relationship. Things like being featured in videos for exposure or being part of his buyer list. He’s got no one in his camp that is telling him anything negative.
Yeah, this is remarkable how poorly planned he was. It's not like leaking this app idea would have brought on a ton of competitors if he had made in public earlier. It generally seems like a bad idea that most people would stay away from.
especially since he uses accelerlist for amazon, which has to be connected and uses their API so he should have known this was the first hurdle. All he cared about was the money he figured he'd make by integrating his buylist so his greed blinded him.
$250 in sales to have access to the app. Seems pretty excessive to me. Why not just have an actual paywall with a nominal fee and or a feature that allows you to approve or pre approve people who sell to you?
good idea the app
I can’t wait for the launch of this app! It will definitely be my go to!
I hope you get approval for the API or you will have wasted tens of thousands of dollars. I also think you should talk about renegotiating the price if you don't get approved. We are hopeful you get approved, but if you don't i'm not sure this will have much appeal.
sadly have a strong feeling calebs wasted tens of thousands of dollars and the app will fail 😕 hope im wrong
This has overall been done very poorly i feel. The be-all-end-all feature of including a sell to you option is still the worst possible thing you could have added. After saying you didnt want it closely related to you, i feel you did the exact opposite. This is a glorified buy list and thats it
Continuing the other comment.
Maybe you can ask the devs if they can make an app for your computer that whenever you go to amazon or ebay, it checks the prices of the games you have in the excell and refresshes the file in the computer.
I need one of those hats
also did he just say $50 a month for this app. no onrs paying that
When's the app going to be available
Why not just program the app to have AI to real time search and get the info you are looking for?
Maybe, He commits the most critical investment error: never concentrate all your resources in one place. It's essential to diversify your investments to mitigate the risk of total loss. This is a fundamental mistake often made by novice investors.
I’m a fan of this channel but getting really tired of these OneUp videos. Can we mix some other content in between these videos?
Agree
This is his second channel, take a look at his original channel for the content you are looking for :)
Agree!
@@landstrommen1 No, I like the unedited content.
No one said you had to watch them.
Pesale 😂
Caleb's wardrobe is strong. That shirt is slick!
Did he say $50 a month?
$50 a month for what essentially equates to checking 2 to 3 sites data and what is essentially a GameStop pro style trade is insane
@@goggamanxp And it won't work out. He's spending all this money developing this app and it won't outpace Pricecharting. This is funny to watch.
Android, Google phones and Samsung. Okay buddy.
DEVS ARE SO STUPID. API SHOULD BE FIRST FIRST FIRST. ARE THESE GUYS NEWBIES?!?!?!
You pronounced "Video Game Scalping App" wrong there, just a heads up👌
Ignore the negative Nancies, keep these videos coming, they’re great!
You are speedrunning how to kill your channel btw
This is his second channel, take a look at his original channel for the content you are looking for :)
I hear only one up one up one up 😢
This app is a scam. I can look up all this information for free
Are the other apps you use to look up the information also scams?
@bizzNES17 no because those apps are either the parent companies
@@bizzNES17 as @ijhsucks said they from amazon and ebay and guess what, they don't cost me 50 dollars a month, they are free.
@@bizzNES17 Those other apps aren't charging $50 a month to look up what is free information on competing apps. Good job not realizing what a scam is lol.
I think you are digging your own grave. The amount of money you are spending is substantial.
There´s a "way" around the api thing but it would give you some work.
You would have to make your own list of prices of the games in amazon and ebay and have a file, an excell or jason with those prices and your app would get the prices from there. You had to check every day or so, if the prices were different and refresh the file. I know, a lot of work but its a way around.
Why are people so negative? Dude is tryna what people haven't yet I know there's other collectors apps but they are all paid and this collector's tier will be free! God bless your app, my friend!🎂
Because he wasted his time and money without getting the API data.
I dont think people are trying to be negative, I think everyone commenting is trying to be honest with Caleb, which is something he needs right now
@@Mainsterr I'm taking about people who want him to fail there are a lot of comments saying that
@@samuelrocha8652 That happens when you lie to people in one video and come out and tell us about the lie in a future one. Example: he said he wanted this to revolutionize the reselling world and that he didnt want it to be about him (his marketing team brought him names associated with his channel) he then turns around and makes it all about him by adding in "QuickFlips". it is clear this was always going to be a vehicle to hock people his buylist.
the man does a million in sales and thinks "i need to grow even more despite being at a great place in my business" when he could stay where he is an live a more than comfortable life. Yeah people want him to fail for being a greedy schmuck.
Sick of hearing about this -- unsubbed
This is his second channel, take a look at his original channel for the content you are looking for :)
ah poor thing. No one forced you to watch any of the oneup videos.