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PTO STUMP GRINDER on Kioti tractor & Mahindra Tractor..Which is Better?
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- čas přidán 22. 12. 2019
- What Transmission type do I need for PTO STUMP GRINDER? HST or GEAR? The Woodland Mills WG24 PTO Stump grinder works off the PTO shaft. Which is better for it? The Hydrostatic Transmission or the Gear drive? Find out!
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We change the teeth on this grinder in this video. You should watch it! czcams.com/video/cb_bCAt5dkQ/video.html
Great video 👍 Hydrostatic trans is nice for beginners smooth easy driving, stump grinding and loader work fast tight mowing etc.. The Gear drive transmission has more power to the ground by far more PTO power less heat build up and no need for cruise control. So in short each transmission has pluses and minuses I say get both of possible you will be happy forever lol. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah man! I need another tractor with HST for sure.. I mean who doesn't need two tractors 😂😂
My dad's tractors are both gear driven. I have HST+. There is a big difference in the ability between them when it comes to fine control. I'm able to control my movement easier than he can with the gear driven. I can also adjust to things easier with it. Now his is more suited for working in the field, but cruise control on mine helps minimize the advantage.
As I dropped a load off my pallet forks today because I lurched with my clutch...I know exactly what you're talking about 😁
When I called WM to order the WG24 by phone, I was immediately asked if I had a hydrostatic transmission tractor (which I do) So that part of the conversation ended there. I’d have to assume, based on that, that WM highly recommends the grinder be used with a hydrostatic. I also have a clutch operated shuttle shift tractor. I can’t imagine the trouble it would be to constantly feather the clutch. Not to mention that it would wear a clutch out in short order. IMO, a hydrostatic transmission is a must for this implement.
I can't help but to comment Hank. I have this stump grinder. And it rotates clockwise, so it works best, without jumping around all over the place, by starting on the right side (as you look at the stump from sitting in the tractor's seat), BY FAR. I don't know if I've described this very well or not, but I hope I did. But read page 30 of the owner's manual. It clearly states to start on the right side of the stump.
It's been nearly 3 years since he shot this video.. I bet you that he's either figured it out by now, or broke something. 😆
Nice comparison. If I decide to get a stump grinder, I'm glad I have a hydro-static drive.
Yeah makes a world of difference 👍
Use the bucket to pull you forward instead of the gear and clutch .
Thanks for watching 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm , I have considered getting one of these and my tractor is old school clutch and gear ... I thought I would try to put y bucket down and tilt it back and fort to move the tractor + grinder a head .. Give that a try . Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
You bet👍
Or use a winch. My kubota 5 cylinder tractor has a snail gear that's even lower than creeper gears for rototilling with shuttle. I'm curious how. Well this would work. I think a winch would work well in a way.
@@OTAlucard , winch is a good idea as well.
Thanks for the comparison Hank! And all the great info!! Merry Christmas to you and your family!!
Merry Christmas John. Thanks for stopping by.
Its a great stump grinder. You really do need a hydro for it. You can grind the stump below grade. I went through and did a couple dozen of them on my property right after I got it. I had five in the middle of some garden beds. They were only about 5 or six inches but I was able to remove them without destroying everything then replant over top. One thing to note is you can probably get away with a gear tractor for soft woods but hardwoods you really have to take slow.
Thanks for watching 👍 they are nice for sure.
This shows me why I wouldn't buy this product for my manual trans tractor and it ended up exactly as I thought it would. I think renting or buying one of those 15hp gas powered grinders makes more sense for manual trans tractor owners.
Thanks for watching 👍
enjoyed it. Would be difficult to grind a hardwood stump with a gear drive tractor. Sometimes I can barely move forward at all on something like a Black Walnut!
Yeah for sure. Thanks for the comment👍
Brandell talking some smack on the Mahindra I love it! Haha Kioti Proud!!!
His day is coming 😂😂😂 thanks for watching Adam. Merry Christmas
We are here in Falls Of Rough, KY wishing you a Merry Christmas and may God's blessings come to you and yours for the rest of this and throughout all of next year!!!!
Thank you. Happy new Year. God bless!
How is the WM grinder vs the titan stump bucket?
Nice video but one thing I will throw out there is on the gear drive tractor if you had something with a Creeper Gear range and a power shuttle you could do it close to what a Hydro would but a hydro is a good idea cause its going to save on your clutch on a standard gear drive setup. I have done similar testing on larger scale with forestry mulchers on CVT vs Gear trans and found that the CVT tractors will do better in a creeping type job but you tend to give up a bit of power with the CVT trans where as the Gear does not loose as much power in the transfer. But for eases of use we use the CVT trans lol
Good input AJ. I always enjoy your comments.
Great Video guys I'm lucky I have a Hydro and shuttle tractor, and I'm looking into buying a stump grinder thanks guys
Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks for this video, guys. I've been trying to figure out if one of these grinders would work well on my Ford 871. The selecto-speed transmission's first gear claims 1.1 mph at 540 pto speed. I don't know if that's too fast to grind a stump or not. No clutch to slip, just a "inching pedal". Watching your comparison video here, gives me a good idea of what I'd be up against, though. Thanks again.
You're welcome Fred. Thanks for the comment 👍
I have two kioti tractors a 40 and 60 both hyrostatic, I am looking for stump grinder attachment, I see this video is 3 years old do you still recommend this one or is there a newer module out since than? Thanks in advance great video
This one really worked well. Not sure if they’ve upgraded their product or not. But this one was really good (not sponsored)
Really good job on the comparison. It gave a lot of potential tractor buyers some food thought.
Thanks Jason. Hope you have a merry Christmas 👍 take care.
I can see where one of those would be really handy, the McCormick C70 we use on our channel would probably be too much for it tho... great video!
yeah the grinder is rated for 25-40HP. Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment.
Good stuff Hank, Gina, and Randal. My tractor is a hydrostatic. My kubota before that was Shuttle Shift. I prefer the Shuttle Geared transmission. Thanks buddy.
Thanks Dean. I think I'd like a shuttle too. Have a good day 👍
Great video Hank! I didnt know yours was gear drive like mine. I have a need for a stump grinder, what is your opinion if its worth it or not. I have seen some that use hydrolics to swing side to side but im sure they cost more.
How many stumps do you have? I would see if you could rent one if you don't have that many. There really was a night and day difference in the gear drive vs HST
I looked at the boom type (such as a woods model) and then these woodland mills before I bought one. Even though I found this one used, I like this style better. The boom style still requires the tractor to be moved, as well as the additional up/down and left/right controls. I feel that this style grinder is more compact, saves room, and.allows.you to more efficiently work.
I can see where my John Deere 1025 R would work with this stump grinder. Thanks for doing the test.
Yeah I believe that would be a good platform for it. Thanks for the comment.
I run the Woodland Mills grinder on my 1025r. I have used it a lot over the past year and I absolutely love it. They have been great together.
Great teamwork and video!
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Good video alot goes in to deciding on what type of tractor is wright for you. Merry Christmas Hank
This is true. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Another great video Hank. I have a HST so I could really use one of those around here. Our problem is all of the rocks. Merry Christmas to you, Gina, and Brandell.
Same to you Terry. Merry Christmas. Enjoyed your lights this year. 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Thanks Hank. Hope the Big Guy in Red is good to you tomorrow night.
Good video, well done!
Thanks Andrew. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Great video and some good tips
Thanks we appreciate that👍
I have a woods tag-50 stump grinder love it
That's cool. This one works really good too👍
That's the other model I was looking at before I found the WG24. Either are awesome machines.
Merry Christmas!
Thank you! Happy new year. God Bless.
Thanks for the great video my friend
Thanks John. Don't let your kids hijack your channel for too long :) Merry Christmas.
Does your mahindra have a creeper gear? That might help if it does. I know my tractor wouldn’t do good with it cause it only has a 6 speed transmission so it’s much to high geared. I’ve operated a tractor that has a creeper gear option just never have had to use it so I don’t know how much slower it is compared to normal.
I was in 1 low. Which is pretty low, but still popping the clutch is my problem when it comes to stump grinding. Maybe if I started further out and had a chance to "smooth out" after the tractor is in motion it would have been better👍🤷🏻♂️
Hamiltonville Farm it’s a learning process with any tractor. Some just might take less time than others to get the kinks worked out.
I'm poking around in the dark a little bit here but isn't there some consideration with a hydrostatic about doing a lot of this type of work causing wear and possible higher maintenance or premature failure of the hydrostatic transmission?
I've heard people say that about the vibration as well. I don't really know. But that probably is a consideration if you plan on doing commercial work with it. Thanks for the comment 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm I hadn't considered vibration that's interesting but I think it had more to do with changing the flow of oil all the time through the hydro having never owned one I'm not really sure
@@MikeDPlxztc yeah, i meant to say vibration on the PTO output shaft...but I'm like you, I've never owned one.
@@HamiltonvilleFarm someday😄👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm now that I'm thinking about it it has something to do with heat. hydrostats need to have a lot of oil flowing through them under heavy workloads and if you operate in a certain way ie pedals too high or wrong gear? not sure, there is reduced oil flow and thus higher Heat.
Good video 👍
Thanks for watching 👍
Any plans to make grinders 86PTO hp tractors?
Oh good lord!! Those would be some awesome stump grinders👍👍👍
I want to purchase one of these, but after reading comments it seems hst transmission is really the only thing it will work with and I have a gear driven power shuttle transmission 40 horsepower mahindra
I’m kinda disappointed
Yeah HST is really the way to go.
My 36 HP tractor is gear driven and I have and use the PTO stump grinder its very doable, has to be because its all In own.
@@inspectr1949 My L3902 is gear driven, I'm thinking of buying the WG24 also. I think its doable