NOT NED STARK! | The Lord of The Rings: The Fellowship of The Ring Part 2 Extended Edition Reaction
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We're back with the second part of The Fellowship of The Ring "reaction." "Reacting" to this series has been so much fun thus far. Boromir was a DOG at the end. I may have clowned Boromir, but make no mistake I don't think he did anything necessarily wrong. Boromir has made it clear that time and time again that Gondor is under immense pressure and the One Ring's pull is beyond strong. I think Boromir fought as hard and as long as he could and I loved his final moment with Aragorn. Now, Gandolf. While, "reacting" I said Gandolf isn't dead until I see a body and that remains true for me. Frodo. Poor little Frodo. My heart breaks for Frodo, it feels so unfair that he's now responsible for the fate of Middle Earth, but I am glad that someone like Samwise Gamgee is by his side.
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I may have clowned Boromir a bit, but make no mistake he went out like a DOG. Honestly, I don't even blame him for being tempted by the One Ring. Gondor and their people are in danger and he's constantly feeling the pull of the One Ring. So while he did succumb and go after Frodo he absolutely regretted it and did everything to protect Merry and Pip.Shoutout to Boromir! Oh and Gandolf, as I said in the reaction, a character isn't dead until I see a BODY!
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I am happy that you realized Boromirs issues, remember even Gandalf was afraid to take it as the ring grew stronger it had more power to influence oneâs thoughts .
Especially since you're watching the extended editions, in the next movie you'll see more of Boromir and sort of a backstory for him, and get a bit more understanding of why he did what he did..
Then in the third movie, it becomes even clearer and more understandable..
legit, being able to resist it that long with that much motivation to take it is incredible.
OMFG I TOTALLY SEE THE FFX I think the arches and biological incorporation of trees is what its about, because Guadosalam was in the roots of the crystal forest, yes?
The brilliance about Boromir's arc for me is that it really illustrates the malevolence of the One Ring. It wasn't able to tempt Borormir because there was really anything evil about him; rather, it tempted him through something good about him (his desire to protect his people, who have suffered greatly, with Gondor being the buffer between Mordor and everyone else. ) Also this was justifiably a star-making turn for Sean Bean, as he really made him more than just a one- note threat, even with limited screen time.
The soles of a Hobbit's feet are like leather and the tops are covered with wooly fur, so it's basically like they're wearing boots all the time.
I mean, animals donât wear shoes đ€Ł
And Hobbits are very proud of the toughness of their feet. They would be ashamed to wear shoes if I understand correctly.
Well, covered in wooly fur in the books, anyway.
@@ronweber1402 the Stoors (a group of Hobbits) did wear boots, because they lived by the riverbanks, and they wanted to keep their feet mud free and dry.
Some of the best lines in this set of movies are short but powerful. "My brother. My captain. My King!" is one of them.
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Sorry, I couldn't resist, but you're absolutely right đ -x-
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us
Honestly, the way Boromir sounds when he yells "Frodo, Im sorry" as he flees from him has always been a really powerful line to me, great delivery that conveys Boromir's desperation & regret, the way he puts so much into that line, but we can barely hear it, it is just background noise once Frodo puts on the ring. It really helps to understand what's going on with Boromir, that he understands he messed up just as much as the audience does.
@@bitterzombieyeah I think Boromirâs reaction after snapping out of his ring desire was just heartbreaking. The book dialogue was similar but a big longer, he shouted out loud or Frodo that his mind was clouded at the time, almost like temporary insanity.
"Fool of a Took"
The passing of Boromir always tears me up, no matter how many times I've seen it.
"The Departure of Boromir"
They will look for his coming from the White Tower. But he will not return...
Gandalf turned to face the Balrog while the others kept running. When Gandalf confronted the Balrog, they were already off the far end of the bridge. In the book, Aragorn and Boromir started back to help Gandalf, but it was already too late.
The broken bridge was totally unstable; in the book, the rest of the bridge fell just as Aragorn and Boromir retreated to safety.
In the book Gandalf yelled "Fly you fools" as he was falling. There wasnt time to save him.
In the book Gandalf's fall happens quickly with no time for a rescue, but the movie needed time to build some suspense/drama and for the actor to deliver Gandalf's parting line of "Fly you fools." I always view that whole sequence as a necessary change from book to movie. The plot requires Gandalf to fall - how to best portray that in a movie sequence? Having the actor hang on the edge for a minute to deliver an important line was a good choice.
An explanatory note about Galadriel's line to Aragorn: "I have nothing greater to give than the gift you already bear": She touches the necklace Arwen gave Aragorn. She is Arwen's grandmother.
And by the way, Arwen and Aragorn happen to be first cousins, many human generations removed (up and down a genealogy chart from a common ancestor) although only two for Arwen: Aragorn's ancestor was Elros, who was Elrond's brother.
Arwen's necklace that Aragorn wears (called the Evenstar in the movie script, so "Arwen Evenstar" or "Arwen Undomiel") doesn't appear in the book. Instead, Galadriel gives Aragorn a silver brooch in the shape of an eagle with a great green emerald, which Arwen had left with her to be given to Aragorn should he come that way. "In this hour take the name that was foretold for you, Elessar, the Elfstone of the house of Elendil!" There is a place in the movie where Aragorn is tempted to take the Ring, and the Ring calls out to him, "Elessar!" It is an easy moment to overlook, especially if you don't have closed captioning turned on, but I think it's the only time in the LOTR movies where Aragorn is called Elessar.
@@johnwalters1341 Possibly also at the Battle of the Black Gate when Sauron is trying to corrupt Aragorn. He might have used "Elessar" again there.
@@BobBlumenfeld He did call Aragorn Elessar at the Black Gate.
And if you're watching the Extended Edition of Fellowship, and hear a few seconds of Strider/Aragorn singing one night in the Midgewater Marshes about Luthien, that historical elf princess who was actually half elven (father's side) and half maia (a lower order of angelic beings in this pantheon), from her mother, Melian. And Luthien, who married a mortal man, Beren, and chose to become mortal and die with him, was Elrond's great-grandmother.
Meanwhile, Galadriel gives Frodo a glass phial filled with water that has captured the light of the star, Earendil. In Prof Tolkien's legendarium, that star is Elrond's father, sailing his special ship through the heavens with a silmaril. This means that the light held in that glass now with Frodo comes from Arwen's paternal grandfather. And Galadriel is her maternal grandmother (and Elrond's mother-in-law). This is a widely dispersed family...
Btw, Prof Tolkien's gravestone inscription includes the name "Beren" and his wife's gravestone has inscribed on it the name "Luthien".
@@parissimons6385 I always thought that bit about the gravestone to be beautiful.
Here comes some random info Michelle:
- Original name Khazad-dûm is khuzdul (dwarf) language, Moria is sindarin elvish means The Black Chasm.
- Dark maiar souls mostly pick a balrog bodies. One of them has awoken in Moria. 5 wizards are maiar too like angels but their power nerfed. They disguised in old man bodies.
- Galadriel's hair is magical. One single hair of her more valuable than all jewels in Middle Earth. So Gimli's gift is priceless!
- Boromir is the most powerful captain in entire Gondor. That's why he carries the Horn of Gondor. He never wanted the ring for himself. He just wanted to protect his people.
Ther name "Khazad-dum" means "Mansion of the Dwarves". And it was. Granted, it's in ruins now, overrun by orcs. But you can kind of see how glorious it must have looked back when the dwarves were at the height of their civilization. Gimli was right: it's not just a mine - it's a whole huge city. Dwarves are excellent masons and architects.
I did not know khuzdul language meaning of the location. There is not much information given by author. That's why I only know what Moria means in sindarin. Thanks for the comment.@@PhilBagels
ive watched these movies so many times but something about the ugliness of the last few years in general means that every time i see that scene where frodo says "i wish the ring had never come to me, i wish none of this had happened" and gandalf says "so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." i literally burst into tears idk it's just so comforting and rousing.
these films have so much HEART to them. i feel like we'll never have a cinematic event on this scale ever again, bc they were essentially financed as indie films and then actually filmed/produced back to back which is how they managed to release them once a year for 3 years (imagine the scale of that versus e.g. 3 years just between dune and dune 2). they innovated so many little techniques that you don't even notice, like the forced perspective to make the hobbit actors look proportionally smaller than the non hobbits, and the CGI holds up SO well for the most part... plus the fact that so much of it was filmed on location with natural backdrops - hobbiton in the shire was fully built as a real set that you can still visit and walk around to this day, so everything feels so real and lived in rather than just actors greenscreened onto CGI sets. and the scale models for the large sets are literally just works of art. these movies are such a treat to witness.
I agree 100% with your first paragraph. It seems the world is full of Orcs and even the brightest days have a dark cloud of evil hanging over them. I turn to LOTR often, written and filmed, to remember there is hope, there are good people, there is a power that is not the power of evil and is greater, and that my tiny part is still a part of a whole that can eventually turn the tide.
Forced perspective is an old, old technique.
@@Serai3 yes you're right, my bad for not clarifying - i meant "innovated" in the sense that they used the technique in new ways rather than relying extensively on greenscreen.
What are the Uruks going to do with Merry and Pippin? Remember, Saruman told the lead Uruk to return with the Hobbits "alive ... and unspoiled." They think they have the hobbit they need.
Yep. They're not taking them as bait to catch Frodo. They think one of them IS Frodo.
I believe Saruman specifically told the uruks to not search the hobbits because he didn't even want his own henchmen he was trying to take the ring for himself. He was trying to take the ring while pretending to be loyal to Sauron.
@@hebercluff1665 In the books he was trying to get the Ring for himself, but not in the movie, so he might have indeed told them that there.
@@BobBlumenfeld he didn't tell them in the movies either. The orcs think the hobbits have an "elvish weapon."
@@BobBlumenfeld Source for him not wanting the ring for himself in the movie, because there is nothing indicating that he doesn't want it. He sends his own Uruk Hai out for the hobbits, not the regular orcs, he orders them to take the hobbits back to him... So there is more reasons to think he wants the ring for himself.
Aragorn didn't send Frodo away. Frodo was told by Galadriel that the others would turn on him. He was thinking about going alone at that time but after the Boromir thing he decided to leave on his own. Aragorn understood that and let him go alone.
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Let's just appreciate the body count here. Aside from the one Aragorn took down, every body in this pile was solo'd by Boromir while simultaneously keeping Merry and Pippin safe until the last moment. A true captain of Gondor.
When the one orc takes the knife out of his thigh and throws it at Aragorn the actor was supposed to throw it at a tree but his contacts were too thick so throws a real knife at full force at the actor who deflects it with a sword⊠that part was real and a complete accident.
Thatâs just their more badass version of baseball. As usual, you get to take first base if youâre hit by a pitch, but itâs certainly far less of a consolation.
"Bring them to me alive and unspoilt"
Unspoilt means with their possessions still intact. As in the "spoils of war" when it was a soldiers right to claim whatever he found on the battle field or could take from his prisoners or slain enemies.
Saruman is telling his orc to leave their stuff alone. He doesn't want one of them to find the ring and discover what it does.
Awesome.. I subbed after part 1, hoping it wouldn't take too long for part 2, and it didn't..
I'll be waiting for the rest of the trilogy too đ
Boromir's funeral by letting him go in a boat over the waterfall was likely influenced by Norse funerals for some of their aristocracy (although the Norse would sometimes set the boat on fire, and not necessarily send it over a waterfall).
"The River had taken Boromir son of Denethor, and he was not seen again in Minas Tirith, standing as he used to stand upon the White Tower in the morning. But in Gondor in after-days it long was said that the elven-boat rode the falls and the foaming pool, and bore him down through Osgiliath, and past the many mouths of Anduin, out into the Great Sea at night under the stars."
It was also because they didn't have time to bury him but didn't want to leave his body for the orcs to mess with. They trust the river to protect him.
And in the boat they also put all of the many blades of the fallen foes that he defeated
"Oh you hobbits are a mess" LOL
Fun fact: Actor Sean Bean has a severe fear of flying and that was quite a problem during the filming of Lord of the Rings. Scenes were regularly shot in isolated places. The actors and crew were brought by helicopter, but our Boromir was not seen. When the time came again, he would start a walking tour to the filming location hours in advance and already wearing his costume.
I love how *everyone* who watches this behemoth, when the screen goes dark at the end, goes "wait, that's it? where's the rest of it?" lol
Looking forward to seeing the rest of your reaction!
Only vaguely hinted at, but Galadriel and Celeborn are Arwenâs grandparents. Elrond was married to their daughter (sheâd long ago sail West after a traumatic capture by orcs ). Thatâs why Aragorn was known to Galadrielâs people. And not sure if you noticed in the Intro, but Galadriel is the 1st face we see in the movie, as one of the 3 elves gifted the Elf rings.
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Dang it Bobby!
The last fight took place on a hill called Amon Hen, the Hill of the Eye, where the Men of Numenor had placed a great stone seat, represented by a large chair formed by four black Eagles. A person sitting in the seat was sometimes granted visions of the lands round about. The action in the movie is somewhat different from the book; this is one place where I prefer the movie's version of events. At any rate, in the book Frodo sitting in the seat sees all of Middle-earth, from the Misty Mountains to the Ethir Anduin, the delta of the great river Anduin, swarming with Sauron's creatures. He then becomes aware of the Great Eye searching from him; a Power from a different source is contending with Sauron, and Frodo takes off the Ring at the last possible moment. Aragorn has a very bad morning; he is always in the wrong place at the wrong time. At last in frustration he leaps to the top of Amon Hen and sits in the seat, but he sees nothing useful. Incidentally, these scenes were shot on the hottest day of summer, with temperatures well over 100 degrees, and the poor stunties wearing 10 pounds or more of foam latex prosthetics. The scenes of the battle running down the hill was filmed using a remote-controlled camera mounted on a zip line.
And yes, Gandalf the Grey is really dead.
Great reaction Michelle. In the scene when aragorn cuts off the head of the orc I roared with laughter when you, with a low voice, grimly said "now lick his blood as well" đđđ
I can hardly wait for the two towers!!
29:15 - "Oh, he crowned him in his death!" Yep, one of the few reactors who gets it at their first view. Boromir's death is a pivotal moment for Aragorn's character.
Think this is the first reaction I've seen that cut out the whole "breaking of the fellowships" and Boromir's death scene. Just...wow. bit speechless tbh đ
Aye, it was very strange cutting out such major parts of the film's ending. The whole point of reactions is seeing people being affected by the big moments. It had been a great reaction for the most part, so it's a real shame to end it in a weird and unsatisfying way.
I think she (or whoever edited this) underestimated how much footage she could get away with showing. Only 20 minutes of this vid is the entire second half of Fellowship. It might also be an editing mistake since Boromir's passing is in the thumbnail but not in the video.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Gandalf the Grey is definitely dead.
Boromirâs body is going to the sea or Gondor- elf boats cant tip over and that river runs to the sea via Gondor. And since the men of Gondor come from the western seas giving Boromir that kind of âburialâ is extremely honourable. But keep watching the extended versions for more about Boromir, who is a deeper character than you may realise.
Saruman wanted the hobbits because he knows two hobbits left the shire with the ring. Sarumanâs plan is to take the ring and double cross sauron.
Your predictions are spectacularly wrong. Youâll see!
The One Ring has a will of its own. The power of the One Ring is to convince whoever possesses it, that it will grant them the power to achieve their greatest desire, and that it is very Precious because of that. That's why many of the ring bearers refer to the One Ring as Precious. For Isildur, he wanted power. For Gollum/Smeagol, he wanted to possess the ring. For Bilbo Baggins, he wanted adventure. This is why Bilbo was able to live for so long to withstanding the corruption. The One Ring has other powers, but I wanted to explain this portion of it.
"Now lick his blood as well :I " is absolutely deranged but honestly? I agree...
Gandalf and the Balrog are of equal rank - primordial angelic beings. Only, the Balrog was corrupted by the Big Bad (badder than Sauron) and turned into what we see. So Gandalf could not defeat him without dying.
WellâŠjust to clarify why Frodo had to go on his own and didnât want Sam to follow. He was afraid it would tempt and destroy the others.
Honestly, you are doing better with the names than literally any other reactor I've ever seen, so bravo!
Great video! You genuinely did an amazing job catching all the names with no subtitles
3:41 Funny how few notice that Legolas is walking on top of the snow that is about waist high to everyone else. I didn't see it until someone pointed it out to me
That bit is straight out of the book.
Oh I noticed when I saw it in theaters lol. It is one of several scenes that contribute to me being like "Hello! My name is Legolas and the laws of physics are optional for me!" (With love, of course)
Have never seen on reaction where they notice it, can't blame them though
â@@BenWillyums It's subtle. I'm honestly not sure why I did.
lmao "damn, those are some thick ass arrows, where he get those arrows from" funny as hell.
Great reaction, and I love your painting analogy! There's not really any significance in the word "precious." It's just the best word to describe how each bearer feels about it--that it's priceless and they want to keep it close and stroke it and protect it almost as though it's a little child (part of the ring's deception). Also, you probably know this by now, but the reason the orcs took Merry and Pippin instead of killing them is because Saruman told them he wanted them alive and unspoiled because one carried something of great value. He doesn't know which hobbit has the ring, just that one of them does. And Saruman wants the ring bearer brought directly to him, because the ring being in the hands of an orc would be a disaster for everyone.
So, yeah, Aragorn is Isildur's heir, but there are a few thousand years between them. I can't remember exactly how many years and generations, but that information is on wikipedia somewhere.
I didn't look too deeply, but I didn't see comments explaining it. Galadriel's gifts are important, everything the elves make usually has some kind of magic property, so everything the fellowship got was better than a regular item.
Sam in the books was actually grumbling about not having rope with him, so he was actually pretty pleased with the rope. In the books he also got a box of magical earth and one seed from the giant trees.
Gimli's gift though is even more special. Galadriel is very old, she was alive before the sun and the moon, when the light was made by two trees. Galadriel's hair reflects the light from the trees. So when an elf wanted to cast stones that held the light of the trees he asked for her hair three times. She refused him, because she knew he was greedy. But when Gimli was pressed to say what he would like, and he answered her hair, she gave him three hairs. Showing that she trusted Gimli.
@3:37 "Oh we might have to put Boromir down" lol the foreshadowing. That got me good
Gandalf isn't old man he is one of the Maiar (kinda like an angel) so hes the same species as the balrog he fought. he just chooses to look like a grandpa
Its really crazy to think if ww1 never happened Tolkien probably wouldn't have written this at all. Some of the best and uplifting stories come out of the worst times.
The 20 minutes of credits at the end of "Fellowship" included everybody that had been involved in the fan website that was launched when the movie series was announced. Anyone that took part in online discussions was given the opportunity to have their name listed. I was one of those fans. I won tickets to the Fellowship premiere in Orlando,Fl. I have a 18" replica statue of Gandalf that I won on-line. I have a replica "Sting" sword that looks like and is as heavy as a real sword. But when you slide a switch, it glows blue and hums! I also have polystone statues of Golem and Smeagol, The Argonath and Minas Tirith. My wife an I attended a LOTR marathon when the "Return of the King" was released. It included the Extended editions of the first two movies as well. It started @ 9:30 am, included meals & breaks between the movies and movie related giveaways. It ended the next morning at 1:30 am... and 10 years later we did the "Hobbit" movies at the same theater the same way!!!
I always had the idea that Gandalf's perspective was that, in spite of his life experiences and having overcome previous challenges, he didn't feel like he could be objective about his own fear and that that's why he simply asked Frodo to decide if they would go through the mines.
đ€ŁYou calling Lurtz "Big Daddy" when he's about to shoot Boromir full of arrows.
Remember Balin's tomb and the book Gandalf was reading? That was Ori holding the book he took it from. You will notice these two when you watch The Hobbit... Extended Editions of course. Once again, great reaction and nice quality video you are using!
27:06 they think one of these hobbits IS the ringbearer. Remember, Gollum didn't give Sauron any physical description: he just said "Baggins" and "Shire". Saruman just told the Uruk-hai (that's what these guys are called) to capture "the hobbit", because he doesn't know there are four of them. So the Uruk-hai show up and grab the hobbits who happen to be around, not realizing they have the wrong ones. Don't worry too much about Merry and Pippin, they're not as dumb as they've been acting.
"The one that interests me the most is Gollum" You are truly a wise person, because YES. The book has a really fascinating backstory for him that only gets partly explored in the movie. Gollum/Smeagol is a really interesting and unique character, there are really very few others like him.
There's an entire book devoted to the backstory of this world, and two whole book series which go into the minutiae of it. And not everything Tolkien wrote has been published yet.
Back in the day, we had to wait a whole year for the next movie to pick up the story! đź
âI shall NOT be Dark. (All evil) will despairâ, The elves (Galadriel especially is one of the few remaining that existed before the sun & moon. They pre-existed day & night.) How utterly, completely terrifying do you think it would be for your whole world to irrevocably change in a matter of an hour? For the thousands of years of (what you would come to know as twilight to be abruptly ended in a profundity of genuinely painful light and an infinity of colour? Of the joy, wonder and terror of distinguishing the difference between green and blue for the very first time in your whole life?)
She is talking about the immediate, majestic sublimity of reality that one experiences in it's totality for the very first time. How on earth could that not be so terrifying as to threaten one's sanity?
Galadriel with the ring would be exactly as beautiful and horrifying. I personally would not know whether to weep bitterly and perfectly, or claw my eyes out through the sheer, unutterable terror of her being in such a circumstance.
But know this: she was showing Frodo what would happen if someone else got the ring. She wasnât tempted at all. Gandalf tells. Galadriel shows. See the difference now. Two sides of the same coin. Both were needed.
(But yes there was a more fluid beauty full of colour before the rise of the sun. Her uncle, Fingolfin, whilst in middle earth beheld the first rising of the sun and to see this wide field before him in even more definition than before while he was in Middle Earth. This was also the beginning of the dominion of men.)
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âBeautiful & Terrible as the dawnâ Galadriel was quite correct to call the morning and night both âbeautiful and terribleâŠâ. In truth the physical and metaphysical natures of morning and night were both by turns beautiful and terrible.
First the morning. Physically the morning is the result of the golden fruit of LaurĂ«lin, transformed into a vessel by AulĂ«âs craftsmen, hallowed by Varda and piloted by the fiery Maiarin spirit Arien. The sun was so terrifyingly powerful that its radiance instilled fear even into Melkorâs heart and defied the assault of his minions. She literally gave up her physical form to take her original form and enveloped the sun; becoming its flames we see today.
Physically the sun is a beautiful golden orb yet it is simultaneously terrifying in its intensity and cannot be observed directly for more than an instant without pain. Metaphysically the morning is beautiful because it diminishes the evil power of those creatures who haunt the night, gives strength to the righteous and because it illuminates the serene loveliness of Valinor and Middle-earth. Metaphysically the morning is terrible because it obscures the light of the stars and sheds light on the ugly reality of Arda Marred, whose very substance is corrupted by the power of Melkor.
Last the night. The night is the Void surrounding the globe of Arda, which existed even before the creation of the Ainur at the beginning of time itself. Physically the beauty of the night lies in the fact . Physically the terror of the night is that it conceals the beauty of Arda and limits the senses of the elves and gives strength to the creatures of evil such as orcs, trolls and the Ringwraiths.
Metaphysically the night is beautiful because it is during the hours of darkness that the stars of Varda, the most beloved creations for the elves, shine most brightly. Metaphysically the terror of the night for elves, who are irretrievably bound to the world of Arda, is that the Void represents the interstellar coldness which is the prison of Morgoth.
Terrible in its more original archaic form didnât always mean âbadâ
(the sun stuff was to move it into a place where Melkor couldnât go by virtue of how the Valar and Maiar are bound to the world until itâs ending; (which isnât the true end either. Itâs deep stuff. There ends up another song of creation which all kindreds take part in and working with the powers of that long ago past of our world to rebuild everything. Even the Mountains too, healing it after Dagor Dagorath, Also known as the final battle, the worlds ending.
Becoming the greater version of the original form before Melkorâs discord into the first music and so forth which dictated eventually what all ended up ensuing when they entered the world the first time which also was interesting because when they entered it after seeing the complete version it hadnât been done yet so that was millions of years of work which lead to Middle Earth and the other lands being the remnants of it. Including Valinor being the only remnant of an even older world. At that time of building and tending to the world when the world was young.)
Your reaction was absolutely brilliant! Im so glad i saw all these movies on release at the cinema.
"Get the old man" had me giggling đđđ
Tolkien inspired pretty much all of modern fantasy today. From Harry Potter, to Game of Thrones, to D&D, to Final Fantasy, and much more⊠Tolkienâs influence can be found in all of them
15:35 Gandalf is not a man. The wizards are spirits akin to angels, sent to the world to help the free peoples defeat Sauron. Thus Gandalf and Saruman are the same order of being as the Balrog and Sauron himself--although those spirits have fallen into darkness and are now like demons. So Gandalf is ancient, older than the world, older than time. But he is limited by the form he was given to do his job--that of an old man. That form of course can die. There is another wizard mentioned in the books, and we see him in THE HOBBIT movies (which are fun but not that good). He is Radaghast the Brown, a weird even goofy person who sometimes suddenly shows the great wisdom and power at his core.
Just wanted to say--I am so impressed at how much you remember! It makes your reaction more interesting and frankly a pleasure to watch.
Thank you for the thoughts at the end. I love watching Reactions to my favorite movies, but nobody ever deconstructs them past a couple of comments about what they liked and disliked. Keep 'em comin'!
Also, Star Wars next!!!
Regarding making Frodo choose their path, I had the same thoughts as you for many years. But somebody pointed out to me that Gandalf, by giving the choice to the ringbearer, was basically taking it on faith that whatever choice he made would be the right one in the end. He was putting his trust and his faith in him, which is pretty in-line with Tolkien's religious faith.
Thanks for the reaction!
The ring is designed so that to anyone to whom it comes in possession it becomes very precious and hard to part with. This way Sauron made sure no one would try to destroy it or throw it away.
The antipathy between Dwarves and Elves has a long history. One of the reasons being that the Dwarves woke up that Balrog of Moria.
AFAIK from Tolkien's letters, the only one in Middle-Earth who could have wrestled it from Sauron's grasp was Gandalf. But then he, as he states in the beginning, would become "a power too terrible to imagine". And so, since he is the wisest of the Maiar, he declines.
Keep a mental note of Gandalf's line: "The pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many."
If you ever see the Hobbit movies, it will come back BIG time.
Greetings from Poland.
Tolkien has been the greatest fantasy writer and one of the greatest in history for well over half a century, and nothing will change that, whose work has had a huge impact on the work of other writers, creators of films, games, etc.
George Lucas wouldn't have made Star Wars (and certainly not this version) if it weren't for Tolkien.
J.K. Rowling wouldn't have written Harry Potter if she hadn't read Tolkien first. It's obvious who she had in mind when creating the character of Dumbledore and the Dementors.
George R.R. Martin wouldn't have written Game of Thrones without having first read Tolkien. In one of his interviews, he once told how he came up with the idea of ââkilling the characters of his books. When he read The Lord of the Rings for the first time and came to the scene where Gandalf dies with the Balrog by falling off a bridge Khazad Dum was in total shock because he didn't think Tolkien would dare to kill such an important character. Later, when writing Game of Thrones, he said that since Tolkien had no qualms about killing off characters, he wouldn't have any problems either.
One of Tolkien's greatest advantages as a writer, apart from creating the most "real" fantasy world in the history of literature, is writing in such a way as to leave as much room for the reader's imagination as possible. That's why adapting the book to the screen was so difficult, because the filmmakers had to meet the imagination of millions of readers in order to accurately represent this world. But Peter Jackson did the impossible. He made a faithful adaptation, which is considered a model. The three parts of the trilogy won a total of 17 Oscars and many other awards. But it doesn't change the fact that the book is better.
But The Lord of the Rings, although an iconic book, is not Tolkien's best book. In my opinion (but I suspect that also of many other fans of the Professor's work) it is The Silmarillion. Tolkien divided the history of his imaginary world into three eras. The action of The Lord of the Rings takes place in the third era. The Silmarillion describes the first two eras, starting from the creation of the world (Arda, of which Middle-earth is a part). Silmarillion is not only the best fantasy book, but the greatest story ever created by man.
Youâll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didnât seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & theâone who has seen the eyeâ thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like âso creepy lolâ which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that latex it out perfectly.: âą[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. âI know what it was that you last sawâ, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of LothlĂłrien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!'
She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. EĂ€rendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood.
'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of LĂłrien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper.
'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and LothlĂłrien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.'
Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last.
'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of LothlĂłrien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.'
'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.'
Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest?
'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!'
She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad.
'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.'
They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.'
'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?'
'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam.
'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.'
'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!'
When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it....
Meaning definitely by now itâs become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldnât find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. Thatâs power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the NazgĂ»l run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head NazgĂ»l). Remember NĂșmenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
I adore your expressions!!!! LOL
To give some trivia: The Ring has so little influence on hobbits because they are the least likely of all creatures to seek power. It can only enhance what is already there, and hobbits don't have much that the ring can enhance. Aragorn has the nickname Strider and is addressed as Elendil in Elvish.
Elendil was Isildur's father. Aragorn's elvish name was Elessar.
Boromir's last fight/death has been nicknamed the "Energizer Bunny" scene by many fans.đ
One thing that isn't made clear and I do not know if you are aware of it or not, but nearly 18 years have passed since Bilbo left the Shire and Frodo inherited the ring. In fact, it took Gandalf 17 years when he left after Bilbo's party to figure out that it was in fact the one ring.
Let's gooo was waiting for part 2
There are a couple of clever things Peter Jackson did in Rivendell that weren't in the book but work really well. The first ties into what Boromir later says as he's dying. When Boromir enters the relic room he sees the mural on the wall depicting Isildur cutting the ring off Sauron's hand with the hilt-shard of Narsil, his father's sword. Then he sees the shards of Narsil on the dias and starts to go all fan boy on it, ( remember he's known the story all his life ), then sees and makes long eye contact with a stranger who is obviously a descendant of The High Men like himself. The one thing a Numenorian would feel in his bones is the presence of a member of the Ruling Line. The long-known lore of The Wise, and his own people says that line will NEVER die out. Most people think he when he dropped the hilt-shard and said something snide he was being disrespectful. He was really momentarily more unnerved than he'd ever been in his life and flees the chamber. Everything he says to or about Aragorn after that is thinly disguised denial. Funny thing, though. Back many years before, when Aragorn was younger, and had not matured into himself so much, he fought for Gondor under an assumed name, winning much respect and renown. Both Boromir's father and grandfather began to suspect who he was. Before they could confirm it, Aragorn had gone off on a very dangerous, very successful mission to burn all of the ships of the corsairs of Umbar in their harbor. He then sent word to the Steward that he was called away.
Boromir didn't know any of this as he was only two years old at the time. But had felt it more keenly and quickly than his folks because Aragorn was more grown into his power. That was what he was apologizing for as he was dying, for not acknowledging his rightful king before this. And swearing fealty to him. And that was in the book.
The other thing in Rivendell that's not in the book, but completely in keeping with Hobbits' abilities is when Merry and Pippin popped out from behind the pillars at the end of the council. The surprise and shock on Elrond's face is priceless! There he was Elrond Half-Elven, counted as the greatest lore master among The Wise, and he had not had a clue those little boogers were there!!đ„ș
All creatures whose flesh are nourished by the matter of Arda have a tendency towards Melkor AKA Morgoth, for greater or lesser. Since Melkor poured his evil power into the very existence and essence of the world(Morgothâs Ringâ book explains a lot including how and when he put a portion of his remaining power into the earth itself.
Sure, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands where there was supposed to be no evil (souls of the Elves are greatly less subject to making faulty decisions), but Galadriel & the rest of her father's kin were directly targeted by the Evil Lord himself. Melkor corrupted a decent portion of the Noldor, basically telling them things along the lines of âMy Valarin kin are cooping you all up in Valinor.â, which wasnât their ancestral homeland to begin with, like Middle Earth was, Some were affected little, most were affected to greater degrees, and Galadriel was the least affected woman by the lies of Melkor, which were âsweet but poisoned honey" as sheâd call his words.
Her natural pious tendency towards goodness & kindness as shown by her ability to read the hearts of everyone and all living beings around her which aids her to provide what anyone truly needs. Due to the magic bleeding from the world as the ages went on; thanks to Morgothâs Ring poisoning the earth long ago; lead to a what if scenario in her mind as sheâd be the only living creature left with the skills & power to even use the the ring. She didnât need her ring at all to block him out of her realm telepathically as well as read his mind from afar without him knowing. But there is a difference between good people who are a bit morally challenged and the evil people. The evil folk act upon their impulses and unlawful desires, while the good folk overcome such flaws within themselves (and for some not always they can masterfully do this). Galadriel WOULD NEVER listen to Melkor and tread the path of toxic pride and ambition.
Galadriel has a FĂ«a spirit thatâs only grown larger as the ages passed on and on. Enough to channel into an effect that threw down fortress walls, without tiring her at all. And with that much FĂ«a, she is capable of holding her own against Maiar for a good long while, much like her brother Finrod did against Sauron, or her uncle FĂ«anor did against Balrogs.
Even with a lesser ring like Nenya, Galadriel had enough of a boost in her FĂ«a(spirit) , that she could sustain an unassailable magical realm against Maiar and virtually anything on Middle-Earth. Only problem was when Sauron wore the one ring, she had to take off Nenya, and had to lose that Maia level FĂ«a spirit from the modernly termed âboosted power upâ
With the one ring, Galadriel would have such a boost in her FĂ«a spirit, that sheâd literally become stronger than the foundations of the Earth.
Due to Galadrielâs immense native FĂ«a, she was prone to a super healthy pride and a small lust for dominion/ but not domination, her goodness kept this pride from going over to the dark side. Galadriel at heart was extremely good so sheâs definitely not evil. She never once is called queen or desires to be called such a thing, she and her husband Celeborn became the wiseman and wisewoman of that realm; after the previous elven lord Amroth died and his wife Nimrodel disappeared ontop of the fact Amrothâs Successor later died as well in the âLast Allianceâ, (same battle shown in the prologue to Fellowship Of The Ring), All Evil Despairs at her presence let alone hearing her name on the wind. The NazgĂ»l themselves avoid her realm every chance they get to the point of choosing to go the long way around for over 100 miles just to avoid her. (So sheâs definitely scary to foul entities that have turned away from Eru Ălluvatar the one AllFather.)
Sheâs a totally good character. Aragorn even says to the Fellowship as they enter LothlĂłrien, âThere is in her and this land no evil, unless a man bring it hither himself. Then let him beware!â If youâre going by her portrayal in the movies, you might think she has an evil element to her character, but that came from Peter Jacksonâs portrayal of the addictive, coercive power of the Ring. When Frodo offered her the Ring, it presented her with visions of herself as the all-powerful Goddess of Middle-Earth.
Luckily, she was smart & intuitive enough to realize that the Ring was totally evil, and despite the best of intentions, it would have turned her evil in the end-but she still would have appeared to be beautiful and good. I donât agree with Jacksonâs âdrowned Galadrielâ portrayal of her being tempted by the Ring-I think sheâd have appeared as a supernatural being of divine beauty, and her regular appearance was close to that already, but how do you show that in a movie? Apparently, in her youth in Valinor, she was somewhat of a rebel, but thatâs not necessarily evil.
She certainly could have fallen into the same trap as her uncle FĂ«anor did, of thinking that everyone was entitled to her opinion-but she kept her ego in check. (If youâre not sure what Iâm referring to there; please read The Silmarillion and âUnfinished Talesâ.)
No matter how noble her reason was to use the ring as a last resort, especially if said fellowship fell off the âedge of the knifeâ as she called it. she had a change of heart which happened in the middle of talking to Frodo.
Galadriel left Valinor(The Undying Lands) for a reason - and it was different from most of the other elves.
She wasnât with her uncle FĂ«anor, who wished to make war against Morgoth and retrieve the Silmarils - she was not wishing to go to war, and had no interest in the Silmarils in which Melkor stole from FĂ«anor which was the surviving light of the two trees of Valinor within them that the only FĂ«anor; the master of all elven smiths could have accomplished but it could not be done a second time as is any pure creation of oneâs heart, especially in regards to the elves and Valar alike.
Though she traveled with her other uncle, Fingolfin, her goals were not aligned completely with his either despite her full support of her noble and regal uncle Fingolfin in general.
- They both wished to keep an eye on FĂ«anor and make sure the Noldor were in good hands -
Galadriel wasnât interested in FĂ«anor and wanted her own realm. After spending some time in Doriath, Galadriel and her husband Celeborn passed to the east out of Beleriand and passed eastward through Eriador and over the Misty Mountains; to where she founded her own realm in what became renamed as LothlĂłrien. Her motivation and goal was to preserve her realm, possibly at any means necessary.
With Sauronâs return in the Third Age, Galadriel was forced to ask herself how far she would go to preserve her realm. If Frodo failed, she must forsake her own ring & her realm. If he succeeds, her ring will lose power and her realm with fade. Would she seize the ring, taking Sauronâs power for her own, to save her realm? She decided she would not. She had decided to âtestâ the Fellowship, to find some flaw that would allow her to justify seizing the ring, and she did find a flaw - in herself. She stated to Frodo, that by telling her that he would offer her the ring if she asked, that she had come to test his heart, but found that he was testing hers.
She had a change of heart, she would pass into the West, and remain Galadriel.
Which one is better? Being born completely good and living your whole life without any evil inside, or having a character growth ?
While never explicitly explained by Tolkien, licking Uruk-hai and/or orc blood would have probably given Aragorn diarrhea.
I remember seeing Samwise and Frodo having their bromance in the boat in the theater for the first time, and after sitting that long in the movie without a bathroom break I finally decided to go for one. When I came back everyone was walking out of the theater and I was dumbfounded! I didn't see the ending of the movie or I didn't realize that was the ending lol! I had to wait a few months for it to come onto DVD just to catch the last two-three minutes.
I really enjoyed your reaction, hoping for the next twoâ€
Thereâs a LOT of proper names in these movies. The fact that you can even get close to remembering most of them after a single viewing s still impressive. đđ»
"Let the Ringbearer decide." Although Gandalf (and Aragorn) are "leading" the party since they know the way, this is ultimately Frodo's quest as he was the one who volunteered, and the rest are only along to assist him; Elrond says as much when they depart Rivendell: (sorry I don't have the exact movie quote, but the book is quoted as), "The others go with [Frodo] as free companions, to help him on his way. You may tarry, or come back, or turn aside into other paths, as chance allows. The further you go, the less easy will it be to withdraw; yet no oath or bond is laid on you to go further than you will."
yeah but that doesn't change the fact that it's still stupid to put all the burden and guilt of a potential wrong decision on Frodo by giving him a major decision to make, despite him knowing nothing about what route they should take. Frodo is already the one with a huge burden. Gandalf was the one who was guiding them, and knew what was in the mines, so I agree with Michelle that it's a kind of stupid line to have Gandalf demand that Frodo makes the decision. I'm pretty sure he never says that in the books.
Like when Frodo says "which way is Mordor? Left or right?" Gandalf doesn't say "dunno m8 its up to you. It's your quest"
@@CosmicAeon The thing is, Gandalf knew Moria was probably the right path and he also knew he probably wouldn't survive the trip. He couldn't make an unbiased choice, so he left it up to Frodo/fate to decide.
Gandalf knew the Balrog was there and once it confronted them it had to be destroyed. If Gandalf was pulled back up the Balrog might turn up later, under Sauron's control.
44:33 Fun fact...the reason that they don't show Gollum much in this movie is because the cgi animators hadn't finished creating him yet. If you enjoy the movies and like to know more, there is a dvd box set for each movie that has a documentary about how they were created.
I like what you're doing with the bubbles in your display. The circular display windows are a cool system I haven't seen much, and very effective. The central circle leaves you four spots for smaller circles in the corners. So you can pop up thoughts and flair and comments in other corners. Really good system, easy on the eyes.
I like your bubble.
Saruman and Sauron know that a hobbit carries the ring. But they donât know who Frodo is or what he looks like. The Uruk Hai were told to bring back the hobbits alive and unspoiled (donât take their stuff). This is why Merry and Pippen are not killed.
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There was no way to save gandalf. If you noticed, there was an army of orcs headed to the bridge. That's why gandalf told them to leave. They would have been shot down by the orc archers trying to save him
From the Gate of the Kings the North Wind rides, and past the roaring falls,
And clear and cold about the tower its loud horn calls.
âWhat news from the North, O mighty wind, do you bring to me today?
What news of Boromir the bold? For he is long away.â
âBeneath Amon Hen I heard his cry. There many foes he fought,
His cloven shield, his broken sword, they to the water brought.
His head so proud, his face so fair, his limbs they laid to rest,
And Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, bore him upon its breast.
âO Boromir! The Tower of Guard shall ever northward gaze,
To Rauros, golden Rauros-falls, until the end of days.
Never fails to give me chills. What a wordsmith Tolkien was!
Hello Lady. Very good memory! And yes, many humans don't wear shoes too. đ
Hearing her pronounce names, it's like watching the air bender movie.
Great reaction! You're catching on to some themes and ideas that most reactors miss. This is a fantastic story, and I'm glad to be on the journey with you.
Also, you kept calling Boromir "Ned Stark." For those of us who'd seen this before GoT, it was the other way around. "Hey! That's Boromir!" ;)
â The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to âThe One Ringâ in any direct way.. Theyâre only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgothâs poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
âââ Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves ( which lead to 300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong itâs pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under AulĂ« the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Kelebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of LothlĂłrien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! â€
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corruptingâŠSauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The NĂșmenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Kelebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
Now that I've watched the video I have to comment a second time. You are so right about environment's effect on the molding of its inhabitants. There are physical traits developed in different climates and terrains, but also our entire psyche is incredibly influenced by our habitat. The geography of Middle Earth (New Zealand, in this case) is diverse and the peoples reflect their place in it. Tolkien created such a rich and 'real' world that Peter Jackson recognized his own country contained nearly every aspect of it, even as a child reading the books.
The Hobbits live in a gentle and fertile land. They are unaware of and can't imagine any other way of life than calm domesticity. The Rohirrim (who you'll meet soon) reflect the wide open spaces of the grasslands and the hardiness required there. They demand the freedom of the wind that blows across their country and of a fast and strong horse to cover the vast distances. Boromir is the epitome of a man of Gondor, where skirmishes with Sauron's minions are common and warriors are needed. The Elves, by the power of their rings, have long controlled and even shaped to some extent, their strongholds. Yet in Lothlorien, Galadriel's land, they've become regal and almost aloof, like the tall golden trees of their land, while in Rivendell, Elrond's home, they are more merry and more approachable, having more to do with humans and even Hobbits and Dwarves as the last outpost of the West on the border of the Misty Mountains. The Dwarves are stubborn, proud, and hard as the rock of the mountains they mine.
These things give the true atmosphere, the 'feel' to each part of Middle Earth and to the race that inhabits it. To me, it's almost a toss-up between us shaping our environment and it shaping us.
BTW, Elves and Dwarves have a feud dating back thousands of years. The history, legend, mythology, written by Tolkien is deep and wide.
Yesss, so glad you enjoyed it. đ I like Boromir, but I remember being scared of him as a tiny kid when the books were first read to me lol. Itâll be interesting for you to see how the next movies play out.
I also love that historical element of world-building. Which is why minor characters are so important to me in a way. The Lord of the Rings films try to make the vast world quite clear.
I mention this partly because Iâve seen people specifically say the opposite, but one of the best examples of that for me is The Witcher show! Idk if people think it has no world-building because they donât notice or if itâs harder to put your finger on, since so much of it is conveyed through dialogue and random moments.
But I find that realistic because none of us really knows what is happening in the world lol. We also learn about it through information we happen to come across, which may or may not be true, as well as our own observations and experiences.
ooooo another one! Gonna go watch â€
"40 DAYS!!!"
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You're in for a real treat & a big adventure because this Trilogy...gets BETTER with each movie.!!! Truly amazing.!! I like your pronunciations for the different characters & your feeling for the story. You're really going to enjoy this experience.!! Thx for a great reaction.!!!
"Where are they going with the hobbits? Where are they taking them?"
Me: don't say it...
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A well thought out summary !
Saruman and the Urukhai don't know which Hobbitt has the ring...they were just told "one of them" has something important, so they are grabbing all the Hobbitts to take to Sauron.
Nice reaction. Thanks for restraining most of the Boromir jokes, was almost disappointed in your reaction to that part but I could tell you appreciated the sacrifice and werenât being insensitive. Look forward to more.
One thing you and most donât realize, Hobbit feet are naturally thick soles and hairy feet as well so donât need shoes, although very few actually wear footwear as they dont .
What you mentioned about how to destroy the ring: well, you are very insightful and made some good speculation. Keep watching
âAll shall love me and despair.â Is such a hard line.
â The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to âThe One Ringâ in any direct way.. Theyâre only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgothâs poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
âââ Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves ( which lead to 300-500years of his infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong itâs pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under AulĂ« the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Kelebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey?
The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past.
The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of LothlĂłrien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! â€
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corruptingâŠSauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The NĂșmenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Kelebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
âI shall NOT be Dark. (All evil) will despairâ, The elves (Galadriel especially is one of the few remaining that existed before the sun & moon. They pre-existed day & night.) How utterly, completely terrifying do you think it would be for your whole world to irrevocably change in a matter of an hour? For the thousands of years of (what you would come to know as twilight to be abruptly ended in a profundity of genuinely painful light and an infinity of colour? Of the joy, wonder and terror of distinguishing the difference between green and blue for the very first time in your whole life?)
She is talking about the immediate, majestic sublimity of reality that one experiences in it's totality for the very first time. How on earth could that not be so terrifying as to threaten one's sanity?
Galadriel with the ring would be exactly as beautiful and horrifying. I personally would not know whether to weep bitterly and perfectly, or claw my eyes out through the sheer, unutterable terror of her being in such a circumstance.
But know this: she was showing Frodo what would happen if someone else got the ring. She wasnât tempted at all. Gandalf tells. Galadriel shows. See the difference now. Two sides of the same coin. Both were needed.
(But yes there was a more fluid beauty full of colour before the rise of the sun. Her uncle, Fingolfin, whilst in middle earth beheld the first rising of the sun and to see this wide field before him in even more definition than before while he was in Middle Earth. This was also the beginning of the dominion of men.)
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âBeautiful & Terrible as the dawnâ Galadriel was quite correct to call the morning and night both âbeautiful and terribleâŠâ. In truth the physical and metaphysical natures of morning and night were both by turns beautiful and terrible.
First the morning. Physically the morning is the result of the golden fruit of LaurĂ«lin, transformed into a vessel by AulĂ«âs craftsmen, hallowed by Varda and piloted by the fiery Maiarin spirit Arien. The sun was so terrifyingly powerful that its radiance instilled fear even into Melkorâs heart and defied the assault of his minions. She literally gave up her physical form to take her original form and enveloped the sun; becoming its flames we see today.
Physically the sun is a beautiful golden orb yet it is simultaneously terrifying in its intensity and cannot be observed directly for more than an instant without pain. Metaphysically the morning is beautiful because it diminishes the evil power of those creatures who haunt the night, gives strength to the righteous and because it illuminates the serene loveliness of Valinor and Middle-earth. Metaphysically the morning is terrible because it obscures the light of the stars and sheds light on the ugly reality of Arda Marred, whose very substance is corrupted by the power of Melkor.
Last the night. The night is the Void surrounding the globe of Arda, which existed even before the creation of the Ainur at the beginning of time itself. Physically the beauty of the night lies in the fact . Physically the terror of the night is that it conceals the beauty of Arda and limits the senses of the elves and gives strength to the creatures of evil such as orcs, trolls and the Ringwraiths.
Metaphysically the night is beautiful because it is during the hours of darkness that the stars of Varda, the most beloved creations for the elves, shine most brightly. Metaphysically the terror of the night for elves, who are irretrievably bound to the world of Arda, is that the Void represents the interstellar coldness which is the prison of Morgoth.
Terrible in its more original archaic form didnât always mean âbadâ
(the sun stuff was to move it into a place where Melkor couldnât go by virtue of how the Valar and Maiar are bound to the world until itâs ending; (which isnât the true end either. Itâs deep stuff. There ends up another song of creation which all kindreds take part in and working with the powers of that long ago past of our world to rebuild everything. Even the Mountains too, healing it after Dagor Dagorath, Also known as the final battle, the worlds ending.
Becoming the greater version of the original form before Melkorâs discord into the first music and so forth which dictated eventually what all ended up ensuing when they entered the world the first time which also was interesting because when they entered it after seeing the complete version it hadnât been done yet so that was millions of years of work which lead to Middle Earth and the other lands being the remnants of it. Including Valinor being the only remnant of an even older world. At that time of building and tending to the world when the world was young.)
All creatures whose flesh are nourished by the matter of Arda have a tendency towards Melkor AKA Morgoth, for greater or lesser. Since Melkor poured his evil power into the very existence and essence of the world(Morgothâs Ringâ book explains a lot including how and when he put a portion of his remaining power into the earth itself.
Sure, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands where there was supposed to be no evil (souls of the Elves are greatly less subject to making faulty decisions), but Galadriel & the rest of her father's kin were directly targeted by the Evil Lord himself. Melkor corrupted a decent portion of the Noldor, basically telling them things along the lines of âMy Valarin kin are cooping you all up in Valinor.â, which wasnât their ancestral homeland to begin with, like Middle Earth was, Some were affected little, most were affected to greater degrees, and Galadriel was the least affected woman by the lies of Melkor, which were âsweet but poisoned honey" as sheâd call his words.
Her natural pious tendency towards goodness & kindness as shown by her ability to read the hearts of everyone and all living beings around her which aids her to provide what anyone truly needs. Due to the magic bleeding from the world as the ages went on; thanks to Morgothâs Ring poisoning the earth long ago; lead to a what if scenario in her mind as sheâd be the only living creature left with the skills & power to even use the the ring. She didnât need her ring at all to block him out of her realm telepathically as well as read his mind from afar without him knowing. But there is a difference between good people who are a bit morally challenged and the evil people. The evil folk act upon their impulses and unlawful desires, while the good folk overcome such flaws within themselves (and for some not always they can masterfully do this). Galadriel WOULD NEVER listen to Melkor and tread the path of toxic pride and ambition.
Galadriel has a FĂ«a spirit thatâs only grown larger as the ages passed on and on. Enough to channel into an effect that threw down fortress walls, without tiring her at all. And with that much FĂ«a, she is capable of holding her own against Maiar for a good long while, much like her brother Finrod did against Sauron, or her uncle FĂ«anor did against Balrogs.
Even with a lesser ring like Nenya, Galadriel had enough of a boost in her FĂ«a(spirit) , that she could sustain an unassailable magical realm against Maiar and virtually anything on Middle-Earth. Only problem was when Sauron wore the one ring, she had to take off Nenya, and had to lose that Maia level FĂ«a spirit from the modernly termed âboosted power upâ
With the one ring, Galadriel would have such a boost in her FĂ«a spirit, that sheâd literally become stronger than the foundations of the Earth.
Due to Galadrielâs immense native FĂ«a, she was prone to a super healthy pride and a small lust for dominion/ but not domination, her goodness kept this pride from going over to the dark side. Galadriel at heart was extremely good so sheâs definitely not evil. She never once is called queen or desires to be called such a thing, she and her husband Celeborn became the wiseman and wisewoman of that realm; after the previous elven lord Amroth died and his wife Nimrodel disappeared ontop of the fact Amrothâs Successor later died as well in the âLast Allianceâ, (same battle shown in the prologue to Fellowship Of The Ring), All Evil Despairs at her presence let alone hearing her name on the wind. The NazgĂ»l themselves avoid her realm every chance they get to the point of choosing to go the long way around for over 100 miles just to avoid her. (So sheâs definitely scary to foul entities that have turned away from Eru Ălluvatar the one AllFather.)
Sheâs a totally good character. Aragorn even says to the Fellowship as they enter LothlĂłrien, âThere is in her and this land no evil, unless a man bring it hither himself. Then let him beware!â If youâre going by her portrayal in the movies, you might think she has an evil element to her character, but that came from Peter Jacksonâs portrayal of the addictive, coercive power of the Ring. When Frodo offered her the Ring, it presented her with visions of herself as the all-powerful Goddess of Middle-Earth.
Luckily, she was smart & intuitive enough to realize that the Ring was totally evil, and despite the best of intentions, it would have turned her evil in the end-but she still would have appeared to be beautiful and good. I donât agree with Jacksonâs âdrowned Galadrielâ portrayal of her being tempted by the Ring-I think sheâd have appeared as a supernatural being of divine beauty, and her regular appearance was close to that already, but how do you show that in a movie? Apparently, in her youth in Valinor, she was somewhat of a rebel, but thatâs not necessarily evil.
She certainly could have fallen into the same trap as her uncle FĂ«anor did, of thinking that everyone was entitled to her opinion-but she kept her ego in check. (If youâre not sure what Iâm referring to there; please read The Silmarillion and âUnfinished Talesâ.)
No matter how noble her reason was to use the ring as a last resort, especially if said fellowship fell off the âedge of the knifeâ as she called it. she had a change of heart which happened in the middle of talking to Frodo.
Galadriel left Valinor(The Undying Lands) for a reason - and it was different from most of the other elves.
She wasnât with her uncle FĂ«anor, who wished to make war against Morgoth and retrieve the Silmarils - she was not wishing to go to war, and had no interest in the Silmarils in which Melkor stole from FĂ«anor which was the surviving light of the two trees of Valinor within them that the only FĂ«anor; the master of all elven smiths could have accomplished but it could not be done a second time as is any pure creation of oneâs heart, especially in regards to the elves and Valar alike.
Though she traveled with her other uncle, Fingolfin, her goals were not aligned completely with his either despite her full support of her noble and regal uncle Fingolfin in general.
- They both wished to keep an eye on FĂ«anor and make sure the Noldor were in good hands -
Galadriel wasnât interested in FĂ«anor and wanted her own realm. After spending some time in Doriath, Galadriel and her husband Celeborn passed to the east out of Beleriand and passed eastward through Eriador and over the Misty Mountains; to where she founded her own realm in what became renamed as LothlĂłrien. Her motivation and goal was to preserve her realm, possibly at any means necessary.
With Sauronâs return in the Third Age, Galadriel was forced to ask herself how far she would go to preserve her realm. If Frodo failed, she must forsake her own ring & her realm. If he succeeds, her ring will lose power and her realm with fade. Would she seize the ring, taking Sauronâs power for her own, to save her realm? She decided she would not. She had decided to âtestâ the Fellowship, to find some flaw that would allow her to justify seizing the ring, and she did find a flaw - in herself. She stated to Frodo, that by telling her that he would offer her the ring if she asked, that she had come to test his heart, but found that he was testing hers.
She had a change of heart, she would pass into the West, and remain Galadriel.
Which one is better? Being born completely good and living your whole life without any evil inside, or having a character growth ?
Youâll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didnât seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & theâone who has seen the eyeâ thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like âso creepy lolâ which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that latex it out perfectly.: âą[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. âI know what it was that you last sawâ, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of LothlĂłrien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!'
She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. EĂ€rendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood.
'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of LĂłrien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper.
'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and LothlĂłrien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.'
Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last.
'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of LothlĂłrien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.'
'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.'
Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest?
'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!'
She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad.
'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.'
They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.'
'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?'
'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam.
'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.'
'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!'
When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it....
Meaning definitely by now itâs become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldnât find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. Thatâs power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the NazgĂ»l run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head NazgĂ»l). Remember NĂșmenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
The fellowship does not go back to help Gandalf for several reasons, the primary one being the element of shock, but also because it would have been utter folly. The whole bridge confrontation between Gandalf and the Balrog was 5 minutes tops (seems longer due to the slow-motion focusing on various characters), and there was literally nothing the others could add to the fight between one Maia and another. Gandalf made this clear with, âThis foe is beyond any of youâ and âswords are no use here.â Aragorn, and Legolas especially as an immortal elf, knew exactly what a Balrog was and the stories of previous Balrog battles (told in The Silmarillion), and that any attempt to engage would be instant death. Worse yet, distracting Gandalf, who as a 3000+ year old wizard was far more capable than them, would be stupid.
Gandalf dangled on the edge of the broken bridge for maybe 30 seconds. It was impossible for them to rescue him at that point, even if not frozen in shock. Moreover, the fact is that Frodo's quest is absolute priority #1. His safety was, to be frank, greater than even losing Gandalf. Remember also that Gandalf's last words to Aragorn were a command to "lead them on" and then he shouts to the group "over the bridge, fly!" It is a swift scene easy to miss, but the fellowship does "fly" over the bridge and then up the stairs to a higher level. Twice, as the scene with Gandalf and the Balrog unfolds, the view shifts to over Frodoâs shoulder, revealing how far away the group actually was. Point is, they were not close enough to help Gandalf, nor would it have been wise with a dangerous crumbling bridge and orcs shooting arrows at them.
Yes, the world is really fleshed-out! All the events that are happening now were influenced by events thousands and thousands of years ago, the relationships between the races, political and cultural differences. It really is like watching history unfolding.
Fun fact: the Balrog, Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron are the same kind of beings! They are Maia, which is kinda like angelic beings only second in the power to the gods, the Valar. During the first Age one of the gods, Morgoth (kinda the source of all evil), wanted earth for himself and some Maia like Sauron followed him. Morgoth also created Orcs out of Elves because he wanted to make living things but did not have the powers to do so.
Bgl, kinda love the image of the world and the characters throwing paint at each other.
"this world is so fleshed out" oh boy, wait til you find out about the silmarillion and the others... This is the most detailed and "living" world i have ever experienced in fantasy and havent seen anything as intricate since the first time i read tolkien's work. Theres a reason hes the basis for pretty much every contemporary idea in the fantasy genre. Id say him and lovecraft are the two greatest contributors to fiction.
I definitely loved your reaction to this movie, i cant wait for the next one!
What a shame part 1 was blocked for copyright reasons because your reaction is really cool!
For a lot of us he was boromir first. People calling him ned hurts my cocoro. Lol
I'm an old lady so don't take this the wrong way, but I can't help but complement you personally. Girl, you are looking clean. Great outfit, beautiful hair, perfect makeup (if you're even wearing makeup). Loved part one of your reaction and about to enjoy part two.
For the record, real war arrows are thick as shÂĄt- about 3/8-1/2 inches in diameter on average.
And theyâre heavy. If someone hit you with one, it might knock you over, depending on the draw weight behind the bow and whether or not the arrow stuck in you or passed through you.
Sorry to tell you, but Gandalf the Grey is in fact, dead and gone. And trust me, we were all torn up about it too.
It helps with remembering names if you run it with captions. Here an easy way to keep the supervillains straight. Sa-ron of Mor-dor verses Sa-ru-man from I-sen-gard. Same number of of syllables in name and place. Aragorn actually translates as Ara ( king ) Gorn ( tree ), and in the next movie there's a place called Fangorn Forest. Fan ( beard ) Gorn ( tree ).
In Aragorn's case it's a specific tree. You'll figure it out, it's not difficult at all.
Great reaction, I love both movies and books.
"Ned" is the worst name for a fantasy character I've ever heard
good reaction though!
lol In game of thrones his characters name is Eddard, nickname is Ned.
If you didnât already know that
Keith would be worse
It's a nickname. I read the books.
I love how you say SaurĂłn. Itâs spicy đ¶ïž
Great reaction!