Genre: Inhibiting, But Inescapable

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
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    Chapters
    00:00 - Intro
    01:25 - What is Genre?
    06:35 - Analysis
    12:14 - Case Study
    16:28 - Moving Beyond Genre
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Komentáře • 9

  • @legitt6093
    @legitt6093 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Back in the day, when I started dabbling with music, there were a few "experimental" genres, like IDM and Breakcore, which were more of a throw-away labels that were so loose in their meaning, that the general consensus was that they represented almost anything, though had some stylistic characteristics that brought a lot of stuff that was made under one roof.
    For example, "breakcore" was distinguishing itself as a form of a punky dance music, which was loosely relying on sampling, wild breakbeats and "hardcore" (often loud and distorted) sounds. Interestingly enough, lots of people were concerned that the experimental nature of these "genres" might become lost in time due to people overcategorizing and iteratively copying ideas. It kind of happened, though. Most of the "breakcore" that I found in the last few years sounds like something I would rather call "turbojungle", than keeping the labels to myself and just let the the vast variety of music I discovered just suck in.
    EDIT: And yes, I am aware that if I kept digging, I would have found more interesting and diversified stuff. :))

  • @MrBenMcLean
    @MrBenMcLean Před 3 měsíci +5

    Genre isn't for the musician! It's for the audience!

    • @mathieupe666
      @mathieupe666 Před 3 měsíci

      It's for the record store

    • @MrBenMcLean
      @MrBenMcLean Před 3 měsíci

      @@mathieupe666 Genre really does serve a genuine purpose for fans to discover artists. You can entirely ignore genre if you're producing music non-commercially but if you're asking for people's money then it is of course reasonable for your customers to have expectations formed by genre conventions. Musicians who complain about this are just being whiny bitches.

    • @mathieupe666
      @mathieupe666 Před 3 měsíci

      @@MrBenMcLean I meant it serves the purpose of organizing the records on the shelves. Beyond , it allows to talk about music easier. Genre is also a shortcut concept to ease the language.
      If you would talk about me you could say: " you know, that french guy who plays trumpet we met that day...." of course I am way more than just that. but the categorisation helps keeping a long story short.

  • @MistyMusicStudio
    @MistyMusicStudio Před 3 měsíci +3

    Good takes! Sticking to a genre is HARD huh? Also a huge fan of using favorite hardware & physical instruments to define limitations. My monkey brain loves physical knobs and buttons so it works out 🙈

  • @Frisbieinstein
    @Frisbieinstein Před 3 měsíci +1

    I don't play the genre game. But if you want to sell your music there's not much getting away from it.

  • @Lupine.
    @Lupine. Před 3 měsíci

    Subgenre is definitely where individual expression starts to die.
    It's fine to approach composure with a loose template.
    I'm a lifelong metalhead/musician and love Death Metal. It's nearly impossible to create music with other musicians without someone being a stickler for specialization.
    Not to mention the ridiculous amount of dependence on gear.