Winspace Lún HYPER 23 SE R45 carbon road bike wheelset
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- čas přidán 2. 01. 2024
- I can’t thank enough @WinspaceBikes to have sent me this set of Lún HYPER 23 SE R45 wheels. These were my upgrade choice moving from my Prime RR-50 V3 to further reduce the weight of my Canyon Ultimate.
Check out the excellent videos from @PeakTorque and @Hambini to have a comprehensive review of the technical aspects. I will try to contribute with my own experience and perspective on these wheels.
In the cycling clips I’m wearing kit courtesy of Siroko Cycling. If you wish to shop for Siroko kit you can use my link to get an extra 10% discount automatically added to the existing discounts. No need to enter other codes, following the link the prices shown will be reduced. Thank you!
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Thank you for watching,
Federico
#winspace #lunwheels
What a great start for you in 2024. Well deserved. Your content is great and honest... Well deserved!
Cheers from bavaria
Thank you 😊
Just go my D45s in the mail. Can't wait to unbox them. Great video kind sir!
Great, looking forward for the video on them!!
These Lún's look great! Looking forward for the review. Great job brother.
Thank you!!
Good things happen to good people for a reason 👌🏻
Thank you 😊
Wider rims is the ability to less pression. I am 75 kgs and i ride these wheels with 5bars with gp5000 in 25. Confort in any condition and no puncture ! Thanks for your videos and congrats for your bike ! 😊
Yes, you are right. I might be trying to go around 85/90 psi from my usual 95/100.
Bravo 👏 Fede !!!! Nice to see the canyon coming along great weight btw . I had a go on a friends bike with carbon spokes !!! My word the wheels are as stiff as hell but it really gives the feeling that you’re on rails when cornering. 28 c is the way to go I think Fede the holy trinity speed, comfort & grip . Looking forward to your appraisal after after a few miles . Keep the good work and get the silver Velobuild up
& running 👍🏽💪🏾
It's really getting very lean now!! I only had a 60Km ride in Richmond Park, but for now comfort is not too bad and only slightly harsher than before. I can still keep the 25c without breaking down...
Nice way to start or enter the new year! Next up an electronic group set!
That would be cool!
Nice they’ve sent you a pair! I ride 25mm up front, 28mm in the back (Enve 5.6) with latex inner tubes. Comfortable and aero imo.
Enjoy your light beast 👍
Very nice set up you have!
Don't know much about the wheels but they sound great 😂 happy new year fede and wishing another year of joy on the bike 🚲🚲
Thank you, happy new year!
They look awesome Fede 😎 im so happy for you. I also dont ride tubeless, oldschool forever.
Absolutely... hahah
Welcome to the Lun family
A fast family it seems!!
I just got these exact wheels. I mounted 25mm Contis and after one ride I ordered 28s. Carbon spokes are a lot harsher than I expected. I'm looking forward to the weather improving enough to try out the 28s. The wheels are crazy-stiff and fast on accelerations and hill climbing. Better in that regard than I expected. Can't wait to get out on them some more!
I have done only one 60Km ride and so far I did not find them very harsh. Definitely can feel the acceleration and speed. Maybe next weekend I can try them on a longer ride.
Are carbon spokes really harsher?
I come from a mtb background where I ride full suss 2.5 tyres.
My road bike is on carbon hoops and spokes, but I’ve never associated the word “harsh” with it. Or rather, is a level of discomfort that is par for the course for a road bike, since it doesn’t have suspension and fat 2.5 tyres on 25 psi
Yes they are harsher. But they are also like other road bike wheels, if you go back to 21mm tires and 120 PSI! When I first took the hypers on a first spin around the neighborhood I didn't notice. But that's because my neighborhood is all freshly re-paved and completely smooth. As soon as I got them on normal (but not bad) roads, the difference was very noticeable. I'm hoping the 28mm Contis bring the ride back a little closer to what I had on 25mm Contis that needed 93 psi because my old carbon wheels only had 17mm internals.
Wheel balance looks good too.
Indeed!!
I think i recomended those to you in the past.
I have hypers 38 rim since end of 2020.
In 3 years they ran 70k km, snd i renewed them with new hubs.
Stil runs true and good
That's very good! Great to hear
What hubs did you replace it with?
@@mariaebalan2465 with winspace original hubs. frot was given unser warrenty, and the rear was bought last year
Fed, Happy New Year and thank you for all your efforts. Nice review. Do you know of any similar carbon rim brake wheels with a shallower dish, that you would recommend?
I’m in Sydney and we regularly get >20kn summer breezes which make my Roval 50s hairy to ride on broken and potholed main roads that make UK B roads feel like air cushions. I’m looking for something not as wind affected but sturdy. My DTSwiss steels rims on my old 2014 TCR were old school and no problem with 23kn cross wind so looking for the same assurance.
BTW I changed from very expensive, fragile but superb 26 Turbo Cottons to slower but tougher GP5000 28s. The ride is harder but faster than GP4000 II 25s but the 28 for Sydney roads is a must. Tubes but still lower pressure to absorb the ruts.
Not sure, as I really like the speed of deep section wheels. At 87Kg I'm not that disturbed by crosswinds. Maybe if I were you I would go 40mm maybe.
Hi Fed. It took me a moment to go from my 25mm Pirelli to 28mm GP 5000. Because tires are not cheap, see if someone will let you test ride a bike similar to yours with 28s. In my experience, they are just as fast, but way more comfortable and smoother. It's one of the better changes I've made, and I'm a little stubborn 🤣
I tried the Aeroad with 28c and yes, smooth can be fast actually. But I still love 25c if not 23c 😂
Great video - as always! :) How do they compare to the Visions so far (Ride feeling / quality? Any noticeable difference? Is one faster than the other? More sensitive to winds)?
I am thinking (or rather dreaming) about a slightly deeper section wheel set for my Aeroad. Currently running some cheaper alu Visions (Team 30), that are working tubeless brilliantly too. I quite like the comfort (even managed to fit 28mm tires on them) and they seem to be just perfect during these "beautiful" winter days. However when the roads dry up and the storms are gone, I am very curious to see something deeper than my current 38mm (Cuore) carbon rims. The Visions and Luns you have are on the top of my list.
Thank you! I haven't done enough Kms for a proper comparison between them, but initial feedback from the Hypers is really good. The Visions SC55 have a narrower channel and they have a perfect transition with 23c tyres. 25 should be okay, but 28 would sit too wide in my opinion. The Hypers have a 21mm channel and they already stretch the 25c. If you like 28c then it would be a better fit with the Hypers. But for overall speed on the straight the narrower the better imo.
I ride the D67 Disc, and I think overall If you take, weight, price, quality, ridefeel, stiffness, carbon spokes, all together they are one of the best offers. I am thinking about going for a secound pair....
Yes, it seems they are offering a great product at the right price.
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Thanks For Sharing
Please review how the breaking performance on descent road plush tips and tricks used carbon rim break wheelset. Thanks 🙏
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really curious how it performs in your lovely canyon... congrats mate
First 60Km ride was really promising!!
Good video. Would love to see that spreadsheet as I'm going through the same process looking for wheels
I didn't want to mention names as eventually I got sent the wheels, but genuinely I had them in my basket. There was a close set I also liked... But can't say 😂
@@fede1275 fair enough
Federico, excellent video as always. Please could I ask what chainset you are using on the 105 cranks? The finish looks super sharp.
Thank you, it was a standard 52/36 105 chainset, where I changed the outer ring with a 53 round Absolute Black one. This way I have a 53/36 to have the best of both worlds.
@@fede1275 thanks very much! Typical to be interested in one upgrade (the hyper wheels) then easily justifying them and the AB outter ring too. Stay safe on the roads mate look forward to more vids!
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the ride quality compared to the Primes. I have a pair of the Hyper 50s. The certainly feel fast. My new bike has Rovals and I can't believe how much smoother they are compared to the Hypers with carbon spokes and stiff layup that leaves me feeling fatigued.
I only had a 60Km ride so far, but comfort has not decreased too much. I was expecting much of worse ride.
Hi 👋🏼, good video and nice wheels 👏🏻. Could you tell me if the logo is a sticker or laser etched in? Thanks.
Thank you, so far they have been amazing! The logos are etched into the wheels, not removable.
Did you give hunt ud 36 or ud 50 rim brake a thought, I find hunt has a better warranty and their customer service is very good.. I find the hunt wheels are brilliant with no issues the ud 36 weigh 1285g and the ud 50 weigh 1358g,
They seem very nice, in comparison the Hyper SE were slightly cheaper and offered the textured brake surface. Hunt also are usually very loud, maybe too much for me. Might be a plus for some!
Hi, did you have any clearance issues between the rim brake caliper and the wide wheels? Did 28mm tyres have enough clearance on the frame? My bikes both use Ultegra brakes but the manufacturer claim (bike) is max 25mm tyres, what did the 25mm tyre blow up to when mounted on a 21mm internal rim?
I haven't measured up the 25c tyres on these 21mm wide wheels, but the clearance is great and aero transition between the wheel and the tyre is excellent. Canyon mentioned 25c max for this rim brakes Ultimate, I believe some have fitted 28c tyres, but I am not going to try them as I prefer how 25c fir these rims.
You didn’t have any problems with rim brake ride with tpu inner tube ? I see you done Mallorca on tpu inner tube how was it?
There's a video for that! czcams.com/video/Xp2XnmM3Rdk/video.htmlsi=G1uEKtiqzXtP3PWb
Avg speed in Strava about to go up 😂😂😂
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I still think the Mavic Exalith wheels are the best from this aspect!
I heard the same, pity Mavic offering is very limited these days
Hi Fede. Now that you've been riding these for a few months, what do you think of the braking performance? Also are you still running 25s?
Breaking is amazing, I just used them in Mallorca and I was really impressed, even in the wet. Can't recommend them highly enough!
@@fede1275 Thanks for the quick reply, that's good to know.
Also I just watched your other video where you talked about them on a ride, and you mentioned you're running them at 90/95psi.This seems a little high to me, even for someone of your build. On a 21c rim the effective tire volume will be higher, so even with the same 25mm tire you'll want to drop the pressure from what you were running with a narrower rim. i.e. a 25mm tire at 95psi on a 21c rim will feel firmer than the same 25mm tire at the same 95psi but on a 17c rim. Hope this helps.
@@luftens yes, you are right. I'm pumping them up less often and realistically I am lower than that. Maybe between 85 to 88.
Way better than your old wheels
I would say Prime for the price have been great, but yes these Hyper seem on a different level
@@fede1275 prime wheels are heavy with very poor quality hubs. good luck with channel
@@highfived weight is really similar to wheels in the same price bracket. I changed the bearings following Free to Cycle videos, worked out fine.
Any promo code to get this wheel set 🚴♂️?
Hello, not at the moment as I don't really have the technical background to properly assess the wheel. I will try to be as objective as possible on the ride qualities and performance. I believe Hambini, Peak Torque and others have discount codes.
Have you tried an elite wheelset? What is your thoughts?
Not yet, but I watched Peak Torque and Hambini's reviews and they seem really good as well
GCN have really abused similar Lun Hypers in the forests and even going down pedestrian steps! Think they held great to UK roads.
Yes, I saw that and even if it was a collaboration video, it definitely gave me a level of confidence.
Conti's are a nightmare to mount. God help you if you get a flat out on the road with them. Pirelli's are a breeze. All my road bikes run Pirelli P Zero's.
I just got these wheels and Contis were a breeze to mount. Didn't even think about using tire levers. I mounted 25mm Contis first, then switched to 28s for a better ride. Both were easy to mount. Warmed them up a bit before mounting.
The Pirelli seem really nice, but every time I need a new set I go back to GP5000. Price vs performance is great, but yes not easy to fit. Hyper were better than Prime.
What about the wear or delamination with the rim pad on the wheels ? Can you tell us more about this ?
@@chrisdelaplante5515 I hope I will never experience that. I have a video on how I brake with these rirms not to overheat
@@fede1275 thx, i will look at it.
@@chrisdelaplante5515 czcams.com/video/Xp2XnmM3Rdk/video.htmlsi=g3bcAvEN4lbFTHFh
@@fede1275 Yep thx ! I just watched it !
How much pressure do you put in your TPU chamber ?
@@chrisdelaplante5515 with 25c around 95 psi, little more on 23c, but I don't pump every day
@@fede1275 thx, i love your channel Keep going ! I also have rim brake and TPU chambers with 25 C (I'm 53 that's maybe why) !
@@chrisdelaplante5515I think they still work great!!
Craft Racing? Now those are seriously light
I don't think they will hold my 87Kg 😅
@@fede1275i think they will!
I've ordered new wheels for my Canyon which has rim brakes but I've read so many horror stories about lack of braking in wet on carbon rims I went for aluminium again. If you only ride in dry conditions then carbon is fine but in UK not a hope. OK can keep two sets one summer one winter but extra cost, hassle etc so for average rider not worth it. I'll be keen to see a wet ride if you go out when raining. I'll also say that freehub sounding awful! However, that is personal choice as I like freehub to be quiet.
Definitely braking in wet with carbon wheels is not good. I haven't tried the Hyper with the textured surface yet though. As I commute all year round I have dedicated a bike to the wet rides with aluminium wheels. If I go out on a long ride with the one with carbon wheels I try to avoid wet days as it would not be enjoyable anyway. When I got caught in a downpour I had to apply the brakes in short bursts to dissipate the initial layer of water and then you get a better grip. Slightly toe in pads also help. Problem is once you get used to the deep section wheels' speed it's difficult to go back to standard aluminium ones.
Need a side by side against mine 🎉
Hyper family growing!
Result sub 7🎉🔥🔥🔥🫡
Yes!! 😄😄