But he did not, I remember Andy was an outcast in his home because he was not Jack's flesh and blood. I remember Robert used to do bad things and Jack would assume it was Andy and blame him because he was the kid from care. I remember Andy went off with his biological dad when he came out of prison rather than staying with the Sugdens and ended up nearly dying in a caravan alone at Christmas. I remember it took years before Andy would call Jack his dad. I remember how Jack would see Andy as a troublemaker. I remember Jack talking to Sarah about returning Andy back to care because they couldn't afford him. I remember Jack disowned Andy after he shot him and did not allow him to his and Diane's wedding but had Robert as best man. In the end Andy and Jack just loved each other despite faults more than any other son/ father on the show.
After Sarah's death remember Jack disowned Andy before his wedding to Dianne and had Robert as his best man while Andy was not allowed anywhere near the church. Robert actually really deserved this here.
I mean at that point Robert hadn’t actually endangered anyone’s lives (except Elaine ig) and Andy had killed one person and nearly got like 3 other people killed, if Jack actually got either of them to take accountability then they probably wouldn’t be in that position in the first place
Jack is showing his true colors here, so clear Andy is and always was his favorite. Andy and Katie have always been self pitying hypocrites. No wonder Robert is the way he is.
@@aliyahhussain4553 well katie didn't have to cheat on andy with robert, it takes 2 you know. robert and andy always had issues, just because robert wanted to steal katie mainly to get one over on andy, she didn't have to go there, esp if she loved Andy like she claims, sleeping with his brother who he has issues with it shows what kind person she is, plus the fact she jumped straight back to andy again after being with Robert and got Daz sent back into care to hide her affair and also lied. it no wonder he pissed with her. plus Robert is his son so it probably why he blames the outsider more. Robert got the worst end of things though as he was cast out, and andy got away with so much and never kicked out so no wonder he felt andy was the favourite.
@@Sam_Brunt FFS he killed his mum, i think anyone find it hard to forgive and robert had watch her burn alive and then find out andy caused it and jack was willing to leave him and victoria behind to protect that nutter, he was left feeling like the black sheep by andy and jack (and co) within his own family. andy killed sarah yet he was still favoured, no wonder robert was so bitter. andy not only killed his mum but also replaced him as jack son, he had no mom and had to compete when he was the biological son. also andy chose to burn down a barn. I don't think it was just sarah death, it was fact andy had usurp his place in the family and never cringed and jack favoured andy and put him first no matter what he did, his other/ real kids he didn't seem care much for. also fact robert lost his mum and then lost his 2nd mum and then was pushed out of his own family in favour of andy, andy had taken so much from robert. I can't believe your blaming robert for andy choosing to kill 2 people, robert did not put the gun in andy hand. it funny you seem blame everyone else for andy actions, also andy has pushed and pushed robert, go watch 2001 andy constantly making robert life hell and jack backing him up, is no wonder robert hated andy so much and wanted him to suffer.
@@KH-xw7orit wasn’t Jack or Robert’s fault. It was down to Slagren that this happened. If that Slagren hadn’t started making romantic gestures to Jack, none of this would’ve happened.
Forgot that Victoria was Jack and Sarah's child but Robert wasn't Sarah's while Andy was just adopted. Sarah never adopted Robert but he raised him. Robert and Andy just couldn't get on. And Katie kept going in between Robert and Andy. Maybe Jack chose Andy because he was a farmer or because he always chose Jack. Robert was horrible to daz just because he didn't get on with Andy so didn't help himself. Almost feel sorry for Robert because maybe he did all that because he felt left out
The sudgens are all bad as each other jack had an affair ,sarah had an affair with richie ,Robert had an affair with katie behind Andys back .Andy got back at katie by having an affair with jo .
What did Jack do wrong here, he had 2 other sons to protect, Andy and Daz who nearly died in a barn fire caused by Robert and gang. If you watch the parts before he was the one saying Robert would never have done this and said it to Andy and Dianne and the Kings, when Robert said "so what if I did do it" is when the penny dropped for Jack. Let me guess, another Robron fan?
@@Sam_Brunt andy burned down a barn which ripped away his 2nd mum violently and andy did push robert out, look how andy was treating robert before and sarah death reveal. stop acting like andy some innocent and that robert to blame for everything. also jack had the affair first which why Sarah then went off with ritchie.
@@KH-xw7or neither Andy or Robert are to blame. It’s Slagren who’s to blame for all of this. If Slagren hadn’t made romantic gestures to Jack, none of this would’ve happened.
@@simonshreeve5580 sorry but i don't see jack as fair he favoured andy over robert even after andy shot him trying kill robert and killed sarah. not saying robert thngs did ok but can kind see the stem of it, he seem overlook a lot of andy behaviour& favouring him while moaning, judging and blaming robert. is no wonder robert so bitter and twisted.
Andy was always Jacks favourite despite the fact he was never his real child and the fact he turned a blind eye to killing his wife and almost killing him.
TheROBO1997 about the fact that Andy accidently killed Sarah in the barn fire. Andy voluntarily owned up to Jack about starting the barn fire and accidentally killing Sarah may have had some bearing on it. As Harold Bishop in Neighbours often said "Honesty is the best policy, and the fact that Jack was easy on Andy because of it proved Harold Biashop's motto true
@@simonshreeve5580 I think it was more Andy's motives that really adhered him to Jack about the barn fire. Andy was adopted by Jack and Sarah and could have chosen to live with either but made it clear in the court and to Jack he was sticking with him through their divorce, Robert didn't. By this time Jack was pretty much alone, Robert could not live with Sarah as the court's awarded him to Jack (as Jack's his biology dad and Sarah never adopted him) but spent most time at his aunt Kathy's. It was Andy who had to listen to Jack crying at night and drinking because the farm was going under. Also Andy really loved farming and Robert didn't.
TheRobo1997 Robert was not Sarah's real kid did that make Robert or Sarah love each other less. I hate when people use the term real children as if biology is all that matters. That's why we have adoption
I do lol at the people defending Jack, when the stem of the problem is because Jack FAVOURED Andy. I not excusing Robert behaviour/actions but can kind understand it, considering Sarah death and how much Jack favoured Andy afterwards. Also the fact Andy killed Sarah and went onto take his place in the family and never even cringed. But Robert bad for not accepting Andy as the golden child and not forgiving Andy for Sarah and because Robert had different world views. Is it any wonder Robert turned out so well....
Whilst Robert was obviously out of line setting the barn on fire with Jimmy and Cain, he does have a point, Andy got away with just as much because Jack let him. If anything Jack's to blame with how they all turned out, even Daz and Vic committed plenty of crimes. (I mean it's a soap tho so anything in the name of drama).
yes even daz got kicked out for sleeping with victoria, they all screwed up in some way. he also treated sarah like crap which is why their marriage broke down and then andy sent the barn on fire and jack protected him and favoured andy over his real kids. yet his idolised for some reason as this great dad and husband? but robert bad for seeing jack and andy aren't prefect.
@@Jacob-ps5xljack said right from the start it wasn't Robert who did not this to the Kings, to Dianne and it was the Kings and Dianne who told Jack he did- which he still didn't believe! What do you want him to do after learning thr truth from Robert's lip, say ok will fix it with a cup of tea. In the end this involved Daz too who could have been killed in this storyline and for what because Robert couldn't keep it in his pants and Katie found out. Really, watch full episodes instead of clips on youtube.
@@Jacob-ps5xlthe episodes befor this was all about Robert couldn't do this and believing Robert's story on face value as a father son would. What did you not see?
@@KH-xw7orshe was a minor- and you must know as the expert that the only reason the actor who played Daz was kicked out of Emmerdale was he was arrested for a fight in a nightclub and going to prison in real life.
What did Robert do to get disowned? Robert always felt Jack favoured andy and was jealous and stole Katie from Andy. But then Jack disowned Andy when he tried to shoot Robert. But they might care for one another because Robert didn't turn Andy in to the police, there must be love between Robert and Andy. Heard that Jack never used to love Andy as much then they became closer and then Robert was jealous but obviously Robert isn't going to like hearing Jack saying he preferred Andy. When Jack first disowned Andy, Andy stopped calling Jack dad. After Jack left, Victoria was the one trying to get Andy and Robert to get own. She never said Andy wasn't her brother
Robert burnt down the barn agree jack wasn’t a great dad but u robron stans really need to look at scenes a bit more closely with the actual context this is proper Robert proper emmerdale not the shite they did with him when he returned for the worst
Robert been bad and everything but it cruel to kick him while he down, maybe if you been a better dad, he wouldn't be like this and personally Andy should been sent away long before Robert was.
have Jack and Andy ever thought their behaviour and treatment of robert, is part of why robert turned out the way he is, but if it was andy, it be some excuse for him but robert just a useless nuisance it how they both clearly always viewed him. andy done all to push him out and jack if robert was adopted would probably washed his hands of him a long time ago.
@@blakeseven5305 lol because the resentment of andy and jack treatment has built up over the years. Andy tried murder 2 people in cold blood and shot jack as an adult, andy beat up his wife and slept with a underage girl as an adult. yet he still treated like the golden boy for some bizarre reason. also has andy ever taken responsiblity for things he done, his no different to robert really, they both bad as each other, but robert was treated like the devil and made feel like his bad yet andy was always excused.
Wow been more harsh if before he leaves he goes even the kings dont want ya hear making robert least matthew go hey jack thats but harsh disown ya own kid
He disowned Andy too remember two years before when he got married to Dianne, the only reason Andy tried to be friends with Robert here is because he is trying for Jack's sake. Always remember Robert could have killed Jack's 2 other son's here Daz and Andy and was trying to destroy the family business.
@K and he never disowned Robert too for good, Jack said 'I dont hate you' and Robert was leaving anyway as he screwed up big time and Jack saved his ass because episodes after it was about who was involved in the accident that killed Max and Andy/Jack got the blunt but noone knew, not even the police, that Robert was there. Please watch old episodes
@K Jack said, when Andy's and Daz's biological dad came back on the scene after being released from prison, that he can't lose his boys, I remember that. He cried about the thought of losing Daz openly in the pub and around the village to anyone who would listen. He asked Daz can he adopt him but Daz said no. Daz had a different surname to Andy as well ( long story).In the end Daz rejected his biological dad and said his dad was Jack. I have stopped watching Emmerdale decades ago but when I was watching it Jack overall was a good character, he loved his sons and Robert and Andy were like Caine and Able just like he was with his brother.
@@sabinasabina2010 andy screwed up many times long before robert maybe if jack hadn't let andy get away with so much and favoured him, maybe robert wouldn't be so bitter and twisted hey?
Clive hornby good actor and good icon
2:17 I love the acting so much
Wow I guess Robert was the same back then as he is now
Different person, different actor
She's talking about the character not the person. Don't you understand that ?
How jack always favoured Andy so much especially after killing Sarah baffles me
But he did not, I remember Andy was an outcast in his home because he was not Jack's flesh and blood. I remember Robert used to do bad things and Jack would assume it was Andy and blame him because he was the kid from care. I remember Andy went off with his biological dad when he came out of prison rather than staying with the Sugdens and ended up nearly dying in a caravan alone at Christmas. I remember it took years before Andy would call Jack his dad. I remember how Jack would see Andy as a troublemaker. I remember Jack talking to Sarah about returning Andy back to care because they couldn't afford him. I remember Jack disowned Andy after he shot him and did not allow him to his and Diane's wedding but had Robert as best man. In the end Andy and Jack just loved each other despite faults more than any other son/ father on the show.
After Sarah's death remember Jack disowned Andy before his wedding to Dianne and had Robert as his best man while Andy was not allowed anywhere near the church. Robert actually really deserved this here.
Felt sorry for Robert
Because he knows it was an accident, halfwit.
I mean at that point Robert hadn’t actually endangered anyone’s lives (except Elaine ig) and Andy had killed one person and nearly got like 3 other people killed, if Jack actually got either of them to take accountability then they probably wouldn’t be in that position in the first place
Jack is showing his true colors here, so clear Andy is and always was his favorite. Andy and Katie have always been self pitying hypocrites. No wonder Robert is the way he is.
Jack hated Katie because of rob mostly
@@aliyahhussain4553 Well no one forced her to cheat on Andy and keep jumping between the brothers, she not exactly innocent.
@@aliyahhussain4553 well katie didn't have to cheat on andy with robert, it takes 2 you know. robert and andy always had issues, just because robert wanted to steal katie mainly to get one over on andy, she didn't have to go there, esp if she loved Andy like she claims, sleeping with his brother who he has issues with it shows what kind person she is, plus the fact she jumped straight back to andy again after being with Robert and got Daz sent back into care to hide her affair and also lied. it no wonder he pissed with her. plus Robert is his son so it probably why he blames the outsider more. Robert got the worst end of things though as he was cast out, and andy got away with so much and never kicked out so no wonder he felt andy was the favourite.
@@Sam_Brunt FFS he killed his mum, i think anyone find it hard to forgive and robert had watch her burn alive and then find out andy caused it and jack was willing to leave him and victoria behind to protect that nutter, he was left feeling like the black sheep by andy and jack (and co) within his own family. andy killed sarah yet he was still favoured, no wonder robert was so bitter. andy not only killed his mum but also replaced him as jack son, he had no mom and had to compete when he was the biological son. also andy chose to burn down a barn. I don't think it was just sarah death, it was fact andy had usurp his place in the family and never cringed and jack favoured andy and put him first no matter what he did, his other/ real kids he didn't seem care much for. also fact robert lost his mum and then lost his 2nd mum and then was pushed out of his own family in favour of andy, andy had taken so much from robert. I can't believe your blaming robert for andy choosing to kill 2 people, robert did not put the gun in andy hand. it funny you seem blame everyone else for andy actions, also andy has pushed and pushed robert, go watch 2001 andy constantly making robert life hell and jack backing him up, is no wonder robert hated andy so much and wanted him to suffer.
@@KH-xw7orit wasn’t Jack or Robert’s fault. It was down to Slagren that this happened. If that Slagren hadn’t started making romantic gestures to Jack, none of this would’ve happened.
Jack Sugden was a hero!
Forgot that Victoria was Jack and Sarah's child but Robert wasn't Sarah's while Andy was just adopted. Sarah never adopted Robert but he raised him. Robert and Andy just couldn't get on. And Katie kept going in between Robert and Andy. Maybe Jack chose Andy because he was a farmer or because he always chose Jack. Robert was horrible to daz just because he didn't get on with Andy so didn't help himself. Almost feel sorry for Robert because maybe he did all that because he felt left out
Wow Jack was a piece of garbage. Watching this definitely explains a lot about Robert's character and his issues, thanks for posting.
The sudgens are all bad as each other jack had an affair ,sarah had an affair with richie ,Robert had an affair with katie behind Andys back .Andy got back at katie by having an affair with jo .
What did Jack do wrong here?
What are you talking about
What did Jack do wrong here, he had 2 other sons to protect, Andy and Daz who nearly died in a barn fire caused by Robert and gang. If you watch the parts before he was the one saying Robert would never have done this and said it to Andy and Dianne and the Kings, when Robert said "so what if I did do it" is when the penny dropped for Jack. Let me guess, another Robron fan?
And Andy caused the fire that killed Sarah but jack protected him
Andy certainly pushed robert right out.
@@Sam_Brunt andy burned down a barn which ripped away his 2nd mum violently and andy did push robert out, look how andy was treating robert before and sarah death reveal. stop acting like andy some innocent and that robert to blame for everything. also jack had the affair first which why Sarah then went off with ritchie.
@@KH-xw7or neither Andy or Robert are to blame. It’s Slagren who’s to blame for all of this. If Slagren hadn’t made romantic gestures to Jack, none of this would’ve happened.
@@KH-xw7orand Robert pushed and pushed.
Before he was turned gay to ramp up social media interest in the show.
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I always like jack sugden
I liked him too Marcus. Jack was fair. If you did right by him, he would do right by you.
@@simonshreeve5580 sorry but i don't see jack as fair he favoured andy over robert even after andy shot him trying kill robert and killed sarah. not saying robert thngs did ok but can kind see the stem of it, he seem overlook a lot of andy behaviour& favouring him while moaning, judging and blaming robert. is no wonder robert so bitter and twisted.
Andy was always Jacks favourite despite the fact he was never his real child and the fact he turned a blind eye to killing his wife and almost killing him.
Are you saying adopted kids aren't they real kids, because that is a disgusting thing to say
TheROBO1997 about the fact that Andy accidently killed Sarah in the barn fire. Andy voluntarily owned up to Jack about starting the barn fire and accidentally killing Sarah may have had some bearing on it. As Harold Bishop in Neighbours often said "Honesty is the best policy, and the fact that Jack was easy on Andy because of it proved Harold Biashop's motto true
@@simonshreeve5580 I think it was more Andy's motives that really adhered him to Jack about the barn fire. Andy was adopted by Jack and Sarah and could have chosen to live with either but made it clear in the court and to Jack he was sticking with him through their divorce, Robert didn't. By this time Jack was pretty much alone, Robert could not live with Sarah as the court's awarded him to Jack (as Jack's his biology dad and Sarah never adopted him) but spent most time at his aunt Kathy's. It was Andy who had to listen to Jack crying at night and drinking because the farm was going under. Also Andy really loved farming and Robert didn't.
TheRobo1997 Robert was not Sarah's real kid did that make Robert or Sarah love each other less. I hate when people use the term real children as if biology is all that matters. That's why we have adoption
It’s sad bc one of the big reasons is bc jack caught Robert with a boy when he was 15 and “never looked at him the same”
I do lol at the people defending Jack, when the stem of the problem is because Jack FAVOURED Andy. I not excusing Robert behaviour/actions but can kind understand it, considering Sarah death and how much Jack favoured Andy afterwards. Also the fact Andy killed Sarah and went onto take his place in the family and never even cringed. But Robert bad for not accepting Andy as the golden child and not forgiving Andy for Sarah and because Robert had different world views. Is it any wonder Robert turned out so well....
Whilst Robert was obviously out of line setting the barn on fire with Jimmy and Cain, he does have a point, Andy got away with just as much because Jack let him. If anything Jack's to blame with how they all turned out, even Daz and Vic committed plenty of crimes. (I mean it's a soap tho so anything in the name of drama).
also not to mention how hypocritical he is when he attacks Tom King as if he doesn't cover for his kids all the time
yes even daz got kicked out for sleeping with victoria, they all screwed up in some way. he also treated sarah like crap which is why their marriage broke down and then andy sent the barn on fire and jack protected him and favoured andy over his real kids. yet his idolised for some reason as this great dad and husband? but robert bad for seeing jack and andy aren't prefect.
@@Jacob-ps5xljack said right from the start it wasn't Robert who did not this to the Kings, to Dianne and it was the Kings and Dianne who told Jack he did- which he still didn't believe! What do you want him to do after learning thr truth from Robert's lip, say ok will fix it with a cup of tea. In the end this involved Daz too who could have been killed in this storyline and for what because Robert couldn't keep it in his pants and Katie found out. Really, watch full episodes instead of clips on youtube.
@@Jacob-ps5xlthe episodes befor this was all about Robert couldn't do this and believing Robert's story on face value as a father son would. What did you not see?
@@KH-xw7orshe was a minor- and you must know as the expert that the only reason the actor who played Daz was kicked out of Emmerdale was he was arrested for a fight in a nightclub and going to prison in real life.
What did Robert do to get disowned? Robert always felt Jack favoured andy and was jealous and stole Katie from Andy. But then Jack disowned Andy when he tried to shoot Robert. But they might care for one another because Robert didn't turn Andy in to the police, there must be love between Robert and Andy. Heard that Jack never used to love Andy as much then they became closer and then Robert was jealous but obviously Robert isn't going to like hearing Jack saying he preferred Andy. When Jack first disowned Andy, Andy stopped calling Jack dad. After Jack left, Victoria was the one trying to get Andy and Robert to get own. She never said Andy wasn't her brother
Robert burnt down the barn agree jack wasn’t a great dad but u robron stans really need to look at scenes a bit more closely with the actual context this is proper Robert proper emmerdale not the shite they did with him when he returned for the worst
Robert been bad and everything but it cruel to kick him while he down, maybe if you been a better dad, he wouldn't be like this and personally Andy should been sent away long before Robert was.
have Jack and Andy ever thought their behaviour and treatment of robert, is part of why robert turned out the way he is, but if it was andy, it be some excuse for him but robert just a useless nuisance it how they both clearly always viewed him. andy done all to push him out and jack if robert was adopted would probably washed his hands of him a long time ago.
Why should they? Robert nearly killed Andy but Daz here. Robert was such a narcassit at this stage. He is an adult here, time to take responsibility!
@@blakeseven5305 lol because the resentment of andy and jack treatment has built up over the years. Andy tried murder 2 people in cold blood and shot jack as an adult, andy beat up his wife and slept with a underage girl as an adult. yet he still treated like the golden boy for some bizarre reason. also has andy ever taken responsiblity for things he done, his no different to robert really, they both bad as each other, but robert was treated like the devil and made feel like his bad yet andy was always excused.
If anybody wants too know what brash crap looks like look at this.
Wow been more harsh if before he leaves he goes even the kings dont want ya hear making robert least matthew go hey jack thats but harsh disown ya own kid
He disowned Andy too remember two years before when he got married to Dianne, the only reason Andy tried to be friends with Robert here is because he is trying for Jack's sake. Always remember Robert could have killed Jack's 2 other son's here Daz and Andy and was trying to destroy the family business.
@K and he never disowned Robert too for good, Jack said 'I dont hate you' and Robert was leaving anyway as he screwed up big time and Jack saved his ass because episodes after it was about who was involved in the accident that killed Max and Andy/Jack got the blunt but noone knew, not even the police, that Robert was there. Please watch old episodes
@K Jack said, when Andy's and Daz's biological dad came back on the scene after being released from prison, that he can't lose his boys, I remember that. He cried about the thought of losing Daz openly in the pub and around the village to anyone who would listen. He asked Daz can he adopt him but Daz said no. Daz had a different surname to Andy as well ( long story).In the end Daz rejected his biological dad and said his dad was Jack. I have stopped watching Emmerdale decades ago but when I was watching it Jack overall was a good character, he loved his sons and Robert and Andy were like Caine and Able just like he was with his brother.
@@sabinasabina2010 andy screwed up many times long before robert maybe if jack hadn't let andy get away with so much and favoured him, maybe robert wouldn't be so bitter and twisted hey?
@@KH-xw7orhey 😂 u really think u did sommat there
Robert Sugden is nearly as bad as Tracey Barlow in the rival soap Coronation Street.
Remember watching that and clapping hated Robert
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