New BMW R1300GS Adventure | What you ACTUALLY Need to Know...
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- BMW have unveiled the 2025 R1300GS Adventure. With a polarizing design, the Adventure model is exactly what we expected - a 1300 with a larger fuel tank and more equipment, with a bulkier, taller and fuller look. Did BMW go too far with the styling? How does it differ from the standard R1300GS? Should you upgrade your R1250GS Adventure? What are the seat heights, the standard features, what's new and exciting? #bmwmotorrad #r1300GS #advrider #motorcycle #adv
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00:00 Styling/Comments
04:09 Specs/Overview
08:24 GSA Differences
16:07 Seat Heights
17:41 Automated Shifting
20:22 Options
22:00 Model Confusion
24:26 Which to Buy? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Well... what do you think of the new GSA? Love it or hate it?
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Keep (and grow) the beard and trim the hair short or shave it?
this new VStrom DE looks weird😢
Love the new GSA!
It’s ugly. The GS is more stylish and lightweight. At 269kg there is no reason from current GSA owners to upgrade. They focused too much in creating placeholders to sell more expensive accessories from BMW, and that is our fault. A lot of riders just want to put saddle bags, top bags mini bags, tank bags, etc etc. I’m shocked that they didn’t manage to create a way to have bags attached to the wheels… it’s a relief for me because I just traded my 2022 GSA for a 2024 GSA legendary edition, a limited edition to get rid of the remaining 1250 GSAs. I will upgrade to the 1300GS once they fixed a couple of things Ian identified like the comfort seats and when they add more buttons on the handlebar.
I'd much prefer to look at an Africa Twin any day! 😊
Props to BMW for making the base 1300 look better now 🤣
It's the Pan-Bavarian!
Hahahaahah nailed it!
I thought exactly the same 😂
Or..Pan Barbarian!
Like the joke, but it's designed and produced in Berlin, not in Münich
It’s a reference to the ‘B’ in BMW isn’t it?
It looks like a $5,500 Royal Enfield Himalayan with a significant eating problem lol
I think all Royal Enfields are significantly more beautiful!
It makes the Himalayan look like a better GS than the GS
The front-end reminds me of the SMEG refrigerator :))
Brilliant! 😂
I really like the Smeg refrigerator.
I cant unsee the big BMW Key Fob which replaced the tank garnish…
omg! absolutely!
The comment about matching bike to the panniers instead of matching panniers to the bile was the best too :D
People are missing the mark. The side panel open to a beer cooler as an optional deluxe package with bottle opener in the middle of the tank
The bottle opener requires the liquid adventure package, for USD 1795.00...
@@davidc1961utube😂
@@davidc1961utube ...plus service, tips, airport tax, Covid tax, bullshit tax, shipping, packing, labour and extra cheese.
@@BeemerTwelve Or "buy" from KTM for $175.00/month...
Ahh ok, si tiene frigorífico integrado ya es otra cosa, tiene avance para acampada??😂😂😂
Ian, your job titles at the beginning of your videos crack me up!!
Same here 😂.
Me too
I think a lot of people miss the point of the GSA, and the Globetrotter Cosplaying certainly plays into that. As Ian has said in prior reviews, the thing about the GSA is that you get a long distance tourer with light off-road optionality.
I have done 100k+ on various GS and GSAs in North America, and if you are doing high miles across vast distances (especially across deserts and remote Canada/Alaska), the wind/weather protection + fuel range + good enough dirt capability on the GSA make these rides infinitely more possible/enjoyable, with much less anxiety and lower fatigue. I never have to worry about gas, I never have to worry about being cold, I never have to skip a gravel road, I never have to worry about dropping the bike (because it's made to do so), and the low center of gravity with the engine configuration means it carries heavy loads surprisingly well.
I've toured on RTs, but was happier on my GSA in Alaska. I would never take the GSA on a BDR trip (wrong tool for the job), nor would I want to take it on a RTW trip (speeds are too low and it's too flashy). I'd probably take my 300 Rally. But I would not enjoy taking my CRF to Alaska, either. I don't always want to ride dirt or country roads -- some days I just want to grind out a 700 mile day across an area I've already been a dozen times and get to somewhere new.
You'd think perhaps the standard GS would be fine, but the truth is, there has never been a road that I'd take a loaded GS on that I wouldn't also take the GSA on. With a full load of luggage, the weight difference is not meaningful, and you lose the fuel range (I've tried it with a fuel bladder, which I hated) and the wind protection.
I will take a GSA for my type of riding any day. However, the 1300 is so atrociously ugly I don't know if I can deal with it. Looking forward to seeing it in person.
@daryllisms Your comment is well said and spot on - although I've never ridden a GS (I like my AT for long distance touring). Bottom line is there is no one bike that does it all (unfortunately). I like my Himalayan for BDRs, Crf450 (or 400exc or 300mxc) for trail riding around home area (or trailered to remote trails). Each bike has its purpose (however granted you're lucky if you can afford several). Having said that, if you can afford a GSA, you can afford just about anything IMO. (I'd love to try a GSA for long distance touring - but I can't afford one - or more accurately if I did spend that much on one bike I would have to reduce my inventory - which I don't want to do!) Bit of a conundrum...But we're LUCKY to have choices and competition (and we need to keep it that way).
You nailed it on the use case of the GSA. Where I live (Australia), there are plenty of known motorcycle routes where you'll have to carry fuel, unless you have that big tank. And you'll definitely be getting a light off road workout, on those same routes.
It’s definitely utilitarian looking. I’ll keep my ‘23 GSA for a few years more.
Thats why I didnt wait and got myself a Trophy GSA… But the CFMoto 450 Ibec/MY looks sooooooooo dag on good I may go on the dark side 🤣
@@MRGS48 my dual sport is a Honda crf 450RL. I absolutely love that bike once I gave it the Tacomoto treatment.
@@Chevy2Man my main thing is that I need a bike that is ready from the factory to go off road NOT to spend a bunch of money to make it mine cause then Id buy a Harley🤣🤣🤣 Although I have one and prolly sell it very soon… But I want something simple in the like if the Ibex 450 with tubeless tyres… Ride safe my friend
Would you have traded it in if the new GSA was better looking?
@@RogersMotorcycleAdventures why my bike is a 23 Trophy no need for a new one or most importantly a want for a new one😂
I think I will go with the Africa Twin, just wish it had shaft drive.
Moto Guzzi 👀
@@Ntmoffi yea man I’m in love with that V85TT. I wish BMW made a 850 GS in the same style
Get the MV
Africa Twin would be nearly as heavy as a GSA with shaft drive and they sap power compared to a chain.
@@Ntmoffiyep
I guess this is the bike for all those people that thought that the 1300 GS was too pretty and not utilitarian looking enough . Well, you asked for it… The ugliest BMW motorcycle ever!
Exacto, jamás podrán hacer un engendro semejante, almenos eso espero 🙏 😢😢
GSA is NOT a “more” off-road version of GS. It’s just substantially more comfortable for long or short distances and surprisingly enough it feels even more agile than a GS. I’m 64, owned most of the GS and GSA models made, currently riding a 1250 GSA. You may say my ‘feeling’ on agility is flawed, I cannot justify it either - whether a slight steering head angle difference can really make this happen or if there’s another magic there… but if you ride it long enough, GSA gives you much more confidence for any situation and you feel it’s at least as much agile. Longer suspension is also for comfort, nothing else. And who wants a bigger fuel tank? Well, anyone making long distances! Those adventure riders (adventure in its real meaning) ride nimble bikes with small tanks yes, but they always have additional tanks for fuel! For a civilized long distance rider, not being have to fuel up for more than 300 miles is a significant comfort feature (it’s the same thing with four or more wheels). Of course you may stop and rest, but not out of necessity; that is comfort.
100%👍 I'm in your age group and have owned many bikes but only 1 BMW. R1250 GSA. I love it. Road, gravel, dirt, it's GREAT. Heavy? Yes, until you release the clutch lever. Versatile, comfortable, fun. If people want to assume that I "want to look like world traveler" that's their problem. I am traveling the USA and loving every mile.
Africa twin - Beautiful white horse
Bmw gsa - big hippo
😅😅😅
I believe the code name for the GSA was 'Rhino'
Africa twin is ten levels below this bike in terms of comfort, off road capability and over all rider experience. if it is not within your budget, do not try to compensate by hating. get a better job.
You really need to interview one of the engineers that designed this thing. 100% there are reasons behind some of these decisions.
What is the reason taking away physical buttons and exchanging those with sensor screens in cars? What is the reason of making seat heating per subscription? Its a marketing.. nothing to do with logic. They produce something and force people like it. Because you have to alternative. There is no option to choose.
I actually like the new design, makes it look like a real tank that can literally go anywhere! I plan on getting one as soon as they go on sale in Canada. I like the idea of getting the forged enduro rims, too! Good recommendation! I'm 6'2" so the added suspension/height doesn't bother me at all, in fact I think I'll get good use out of it.
The only thing I'm on the fence about is the ASA - I'm sure it works great but part of the joy and experience of riding a motorcycle is engaging with the transmission, giving it a more visceral feel, which I think is the reason most riders love riding motorcycles
I'm 6ft 4in tall,16 stone,so the big GSA suits my size, I find my 1250gsa really comfortable and the size and weight aren't a problem
Totally agree! I added a higher seat too.
I love how you began the video by embracing the humor surrounding the design. Thanks for the laugh!
Never did I ever think BMW could out Tonka Tonka, but guess what I love Tonka and this bike is growing on me big time.
Agreed. I like it. It's badass/beastly. I had a '15 R1200GSA in the matte racing blue. Incredible bike on and off road. A tank, meaning very tough. Very capable.
I am a GSA owner for years . But the new style remains me of a Massey Ferguson tractor 135. Same colour and square. I’m sure it is a great bike.
my god the key fobs 😂😂😂 So innovative, so elegant, so classy 👌🏻
The new BMW adventure, are among the best bikes/specs ever made. And design; brave, maskulin and brutal. I want one!
With adaptive suspension option its the same height as the 1300.... if you spec it with Adaptive suspension pro option and low seat the seat height is 790mm making it by far the lowest seat height of any of the adv bikes on the market, Going purely off the spec sheet the bike will actually be 10 mm lower then a 1300 gs ..... the fact that this bike can go from a seat height of 790mm to 900mm just by specing different options is a testament to BMW providing a bike for all people as they have for the previous generations of GSA and GS.
Air Conditioner with Wheels for sure! LOL. As an older and smaller rider, the G 310GS is the Unicorn.
The big tank in the Australian outback is a must, and so is the longer travel suspension when fully loaded.
OMG look at the boat trailer style turn signals. It’s even got an anchor rope mount attached to the gas tank.
I use my 1250 GSA 2021 for touring. I never been off road and I never will. But, I live in Mexico, where most of the roads are pretty bad and in some areas there aren't any roads and gas stations are far from each other, So a bike like this is pretty useful in these conditions. I have over 45000 miles on mine zero issues and I can't see my self riding anything different. I rode the standard 1300 GS the other day and is not for me, So I can't wait to test drive this new version of the GSA.
what is your tire choice?
Anakee adventure, no flats, no issues, nothing. Works well on wet and dry roads. Even on unpaved roads.
Awesome job! Keep it up Ian
Great video Ian. Nice easy style. Lovely production values. Excellent editing. And above all, gave me just what I needed to know. Good work.
It looks like Chevy Chase should be riding it in a new Vacation Movie. The Road Queen Family Truckster.
Ridden distance in Australia? You DO need 30L unless you want to be lugging bladders
Same here in northern Canada
The same in the Balkans. Or even Italy where petrol stations just close for the night. I always adored the range of the GSA's.
In Spain, most petrol stations also close at night
@@zzrider805Does it rain on the plain in Spain?
Australian here. I agree 30l tank is must here. And problem is not that I'll get somewhere and petrol station is closed for the night so I'll have to stay the night there. There is no petrol station at all.
I was semi holding out on buying my 2024 Honda ATAS dct, to see what the new GSA was going to offer. Hindsight being what it is I’m glad I ended up
With my ATAS, sure no shaft drive or 140+ hp, but the $10k savings certainly helps.
Thanks Ian, great summary
Always great content……. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and time.
You really are the best person to deliver this information, I thank you and can’t wait to see you road test this bike , carl uk 🇬🇧
2024 Honda Africa Twin DCT sport? I need that video!
You’re the first review who has mentioned the new rear sub-frame, which is a big change and important for people who are either taking their bike off-road, loading them up heavy, or both. If I update my GS Rallye, it’ll be the new Rhino without doubt. Well done on a good first look at the new GSA.
BMW should consider finding and hiring an Italian to help in the design and appearance of their over engineered motorcycles.
KTM should do the same with their under engineered motorcycles.
😂😂😂😂😂
Another great review, Ian, it comes across you're professional at this.Thanks!
Brilliant review. Many thanks.
That grin at the start 😂
Good information as always.
2 👍up.
Great Review :)
beautiful clip Ian very clear your opinion. 👍
The best bike to never leave the pavement, while flexing in front of your friends and neighbors
Thanks for the colour explanation, I’ve been confused.😊
That Junior Asssociate Video Editor guy does a really good job. I hope Ian promotes him.
Nice review
Brilliant summary - thank you!
Fort thanks for putting such a informative summary video in such a short time. You are the best!!
After watching multiple videos of the ADv GS just fell in love with the looks. Very futuristic and well though engine. Specifically the arrangement for all the Carry ons.
Hope you get a chance to review it soon.
If the beefed up rear frame is needed for weight bearing panniers and added stiffness, what does this say about the sturdiness of the standard 1300 GS rear frame? Is it a weak point?
Man. I really like it. I think it looks something futuristic and utilitarian. Something out of Halo, or something. I see how people don't like it, but the things you probably don't like, I think are cool. It like an H1 hummer, hella wide, just a beast. Huge tank. I'd ride up to seattle, down to san Diego and call myself a real adventureman!
You are simply world class. Thank you for your motorcycle journalism.
I'm 6'5" / 230lbs and in decent shape. I ride a 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer (direct competitor to this bike) and after reviews, bike shows and crossing of fingers I picked the Triumph because...there are a lot of us out there that are bigger dudes and this bike fits me, probably like a 750cc fits a 6' person. I struggle finding bikes to fit and even with the Tiger I added bar risers and a taller windshield; dropped the pegs as much as possible (Pivot Pegs)....
Long way to my point, which is, the industry and most (if not all) reviewers are aimed at or being done by average size people. I think there is a large market of larger people that go unsupported. WHile I like BRM's reviews, for him to say these (GSA / Tiger RE's etc) are too big and poser bikes, who needs larger gas tanks, taller suspension....well....I do and yes, I've gone well off-road with my TIger (which is amazing by the way!). Not all of us are blessed with great trails in our back yards either. I live in Ontario, Canada and for the first hour to anywhere it's pretty boring and flat. Thank you big tank!
With these bikes we can go anywhere. There's not a perfect bike but these big ADV bikes are getting very close!
I wish there was more adjustabilty to the seat to peg height from manufacturers. Or at the very least, publish this information in their specs.
I love the design. It looks great in triple black.
Thank you, well done
For my understanding and experience (I own both, at 1200 GS and a 1250 GSA), the longer suspension on the GSA is not meant to make it more off-road capable, but it offers a much plusher ride, compared to the standard GS suspension.
If you test both models side-by-side, the difference is quite noticeable.
Whatever it is it ain't sport
The content is very good
As I'm looking at this bike on the Motorrad website, I do like the styling a lot! I tend to like interesting and polarizing designs, having owned a Super Tenere and KTM 1290 SAS. What I noticed most were all the little design details, which reminded me a lot of a Jeep or Bronco and how they have those design nods to off-roading all over them.
The sales numbers of DCT bikes speak for themselves.
Basically there is a huge number of NC750/NT1100/CFF1100 owners that buy DCTs and ride them but they are a large silent group.
We don't hear from them because we don't want to hear from them (which says more about "us" than them).
I expect more automatic-like systems to emerge and be perfected because they increase accessibility, reduce anxiety in challenging situations like hill starts etc.
They let more people ride motorcycles, we should applaud that even if we enjoy total control (manual transmission w/clutch lever).
The extra pieces on the crash bars is actually recovery points! Because you’ll need to vehicles to pull it out😂
I do like it. Its following the same trend of the premium, adventure/offroad pickup truck market. Futurism/brutalism. And those trucks are flying off the dealership floors, so... I don't understand all the backlash here. This bike would look understated parked between a Tundra TRD pro and a Ford Raptor.
agree
I was trying to figure out why it looked familiar. Papertiger, you nailed it!
This comment will prove to have been prescient. 👌🏻
Great review! Thanks! Still very curious to see more about the automated clutch system, and how it feels riding in different situations. I totally agree with you on the looks of the bike, people perceptions change over time. 🕊️
so hot especially the option 719 variant 🔥
I live and ride (mostly) in Alaska. Styling aside, the standard GS fuel range is enough but you really can't take any chances by missing a fuel station on some of the longer stretches of road. The GSA takes all of the range anxiety out of the ride. Also, we have 100s of miles of unpaved and poorly maintained gravel road where you aren't really off-road but not exactly on what passes for a road in most of North America. Having ridden from the lower 48 to Alaska on the GSA, having the extra range and suspension travel, even on what passes as a main highway in northern Canada and Alaska, is a benefit even if not strictly necessary. Though I'm sure many will never ride their GS or GSA in these conditions, knowing you could if you needed or wanted to is an enticing prospect. It is probably the same reasoning behind owning an SUV--you don't really need it in most places or at most times but for the few times you do, it comes in pretty handy. As was often said back in the day (probably still) in the off-road and racing scene: "It's 95% rider and 5% equipment. Better make that 5% count!"😁
It’s definitely a departure from the previous 1250GS, but…I kinda like it. It’s different, not necessarily in a good or bad way, it just is. But I think it stands out and brings a strange, geeky freshness. I’m looking forward to seeing it in person.
agree
Two keyfobs.. I was looking.. 2 seconds.. 3 seconds.. oh... OHHH! Thanks for installing that image into my brain!
These are the new Harleys, the uncool old man's bike.
well I almost spit out a sip of coffee seing the pic at 20:11 :D :D
You are like the BMW Genius Bar, calmly explaining their worst design ever.
Seriously though good vid, you picked up a lot of details no one else has covered
@london_buker6177 Ian could definitely work for a dealer as a salesman for BMW -he has extensive knowledge about the models and options. Kudos to Ian for that and providing us with so much terrific, accurate information.
Thanks Ian
Great approach, with the usual common sense. Keep that route.
The purpose of the GSA has and always has been to go to destinations like the Arctic Ocean and Tierra Del Fuego. These are not for barnstorming fire roads. That would be a KTM 690 or CRF300 Rally. The 8 gallons is very comforting on those long roads to the Arctic Ocean where gas stations are over 200 miles apart sometimes and even then may not be open when you get there. There is no worse feeling than riding until late in the day on the Alaskan highway and getting to a gas station only to find the owner decided to shut down early that day. You are without cell phone coverage and have no idea where the next gas station is or if they are open. Unless you are retired with no schedule and can wait for them to open the next morning you have to chance it but with 8 gallons you have that ability. The extra weight is negligible under that consideration when you are already fully loaded for a 2-3 week trip.
Ian, God bless you and your family. 🙏🏻
You’re doing such a great job. Thank you so much. To me it looks like they styled the bike with a Pan-American in mind.
Love the looks of this bike…. The ASA in my opinion, in this guise is a winner… I use the clutch to pull away and that’s it… if you can still use the gear lever then for me it’s the same and like you say, rare to use it off road. I’m a young guy but comfort is what this bike is about, so this is an added benefit. Great video
Thanks Ian. Very capable bike.
I also commute so GSA width never really works for splitting / filtering in SoCal.
I’d love just an optional larger tank on the GS!
I lane split all day long. Big Bear, PCH, 405 (Long Beach to Mission Viejo). Admittedly, on two occasions I have clipped a side mirror. 2015 GSA. Cheers, JM
Good first thoughts if I was going off road or traveling I think I would buy the 900 gs now 😀 think I’ll stick with my tiger 900 RP now put 22,000 miles on it with 3 European trips on it 👍💪
Love the charts.
Great sense of humor about the tumor. LOL
Without a clutch how do you clutch the front wheel up? Also with the shaft drive you can’t change gearing with sprockets. 1st gear putting around you spend a lot of time modulating the clutch to keep the speed down. Essentially clutch in, little slip, clutch in. I also expect engine braking down low will be horrible.
Owned a Honda DCT CrossTourer and initially I liked it but the novelty soon wore off. I didn't like not having the ability to feather the clutch when doing U turns or other slow moving manoeuvres. Living here in the UK we are allowed to filter through congested traffic so with a clutch you can pull it in and rev the engine to let those in cars your there. As for spoked wheels absolutely agree with you they are a pain. And that's from someone brought up on the old British bikes. Great video as usual, thanks.
Great report. You really cover the essential topics. " Man, it's getting confusing out there"'. When is too much tech, too much tech? You're right about world travellers, picking smaller, cheaper machines. Take the tip, from Itchy Boots.
Finally Today I saw you smile
Why are so many channels saying you get a bigger tank? NO YA DON'T! Its the same size as the previous GSA. As for the 30L, do I need it? Yes! It made it possible to never worry or need to carry extra fuel on my way from Ohio to Prudhoe Bay and Fort Mcpherson NWT Canada. Then for the want side is on a day trip I rarely need to think of gas. But this bike proved why I bought a 23 GSA. They have lost me with all the extra BS I want no part of! Im sure it will ride and preform outstanding! This bike isnt for me! Screw all these clutchless motorcycles!
Not sold on this yet...and on the shift assistance...I've been in multiple training situations as well as riding real off road...not gravel/fire roads...and every time I've seen the DCT AT failures...the lack of ability to slip the clutch and control slow situation has hampered their ability. I get the touring aspect but off road give me the clutch... I think there is an option. As I've stated before...I'll keep my 21' and 23'...thanks for the details...great job!
Honda's E-Clutch seems to be a good all round solution, albeit without a true automatic transmission.
Put a black wrap on the tank, where the BMW logo is mounted, and that would probably make it look a little smaller, and better.
I’m with you, Ian, I just don’t see a purpose for this motorcycle..
Ian, excellent content as usual. At about 25 minutes the overhead picture shows an hydraulic clutch reservoir and clutch lever. So, a manual clutch would seem to be available as well as an automatic clutch version.
-30l fuel tank. Yes, l do have since 10 years ago and is something I will miss if i do not. Not necessarily always fill it at max.
-Bigger windshield. Oh Yes, for one week traveling with rain or wind or whatever is something i like.
-Better protection on my legs. The same.
- I´m 183 cm tall, I like the feeling or a big bike.
-About weight, you are counting kgs with the extra 10 litres, at the same capacity and with the same equipment both versions differ by a bit.
And man, more suspension travelling means more comfort, we dont use these bikes for offroad, even standard GS shoudnt. We use them for travelling highways, roads, twist roads at the mountains and even commuting.
I like it, looks like a tank
Yeah, a tank that ran up the arse of a hippo! 😂
Ah yes the Panther GS1300.
I like the panniers, will they fit on the standard GS 1300, the rest you can keep.
Thank you and for this really in-depth video on this brick of a bike. not sure if they’re going after the tank look. The automatic transmission is handy. I have it on my DCT Africa twin 2017 model. It helps with pulling the clutch in and out if you have arthritic hands and I have to say I love your graphic of the old guys with sneakers on great job, but thank you again for this great video always looking forward to the next one.
I’m sure it’s better in many ways but only 14% of my audience likes the design. The reality is the EU is their main market and their target market is upscale business people who ride to Marseille for the weekend. It’s basically a sports tourer now.
Exactly 👌
Fuel capacity is often limited by the other riders in your group. If one person has a 5 gallon tank and you have a 8 gallon tank, what is the limiting factor? It's the bike with the smaller tank.
I always smile when people see a high seat and long-travel suspension as a bad thing. Labels you as a dwarf instantly! For man-sized guys, we LOVE that seat height! Gives room for a nice comfortable ride. And that long-travel suspension , even if you don't go off road, it is such a joy on bad paved surfaces too. Anyway, BMW include a height lowering option for those who stopped growing when they turned 12. So you can have the tall seat for riding, and it will drop the height so you can get your little booties on the ground at the lights. BUT LEAVE OUR SEAT HEIGHT ALONE!
@@gwilymhowes6422 full size bike for full size men💯👍
The only thing missing is reverse gear and music system
The day will come!...
Oh - and those natty little fold-out-wheels to stop you dropping the bike at low speed.
Mate you should come and ride here in Australia, will appreciate the large GSA tank.
Hi Big Rock Moto, nice video. To answer your question regarding the auto transmissions: yes a lot of people are actually requesting auto transmissions, at least in Europe. Honda says it sells 50+% DCTs. I personally had an Africa Twin with DCT and it works great. Now I have an RT and I recently had surgery to my left wrist. I can barely ride now, but if I had the DCT it would have been a breeze. Wish they would make the shift Assist to be retrofitted to "older " bikes like my 2024 RT 😂
I like the way it looks
Spoke wheels look cool. Take that back Ian!!!
Love it ❤