SpaceX prepares to launch the first stainless steel space station! Built by Airbus!!
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- For the first time, I get a chance to interview Manfred Jaumann, Head of LEO and Suborbital Programmes at Airbus about their amazing new plans for a space station in LEO! And this station will fail without Starship!
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Airbus’ dedication to create an ecosystem wherein startups and SMEs can evolve is laudable. Only institutional investors and large corporations will be able to inject the seed capital needed to kickstart a sizeable LEO infrastructure. An exciting time to be alive.
It will really kick off when the average welder can get a space job.
@@jtjames79 My thought in a nutshell, yes, absolutely. As a 50yo contracts manager, I'm trying to figure out a way to make one last industry change toward the new space economy, but it's not obvious to me right now that the sector has opened up wide enough in order to welcome non-specialists.
Not yet, but it is coming.
Opening scene: Anyone else first see a Dalik in the opening shot...and only a moment later realized it was a rocket engine?
I had the same impression. Just saw a Dalek from Doctor Who
Forgivable. The "Dalek" was designed to resemble a WW2 British battle tank, to intimidate the audience with our latest shared multi-cultural terror.
Naturally, we SpaceFreaks instinctively, and subconsciousy, view everything through a Space Age lens.👽🔍
Me too 😂
I saw a dalek too.
I had seen it as a rocket engine, but it is the most Dalek engine ever.
by the time 2028 comes around, starship will be a very mature and reliable launch vehicle.
I’m foaming over nuclear propulsion 👌🏻
Is there a “Gate way “ type station intended for mars ?
@@craigmackay4909 More than likely but it's going to be a long time before we see anything of the sort sent that way. They still haven't managed to get a gateway to the moon.
Think you need a reality check buddy. 4 years goes by pretty quick. It's still a HUGE way from even completing a single test flight yet. It's not like it's all systems go after that.
@@craigmackay4909no, because no one is going there anytime soon. We need to come up with a thousand maguffins & more than the combined wealth of 10 earth's to fund it, before we even got close to sending just 1 person without expecting them to die pretty soon after. No one is working on any of these maguffins. Many are purely theoretical and impossible for us to achieve in our lifetime.
The whole Mars thing is purely a gimmick. Easily debunked with any of thousands of questions.
Nice scoop, Jordan. I am pleasantly surprised by the interview. Congratulations - you're growing as an aerospace reporter.
well earned his reports will be watched for many years.
I like this stainless steel model.Because his reasonings were sound and I like the inflatables.They both have great potential and i'm just happy to see them all coming online
Starship is the key to all this, and if it could put one of these up, it could put 10 of these up, within a year, daisy chained together. We need to start thinking about much bigger stations that could hold hundreds, maybe thousands of people at a time, and that rotate. It's all about escaping Earth's gravity well. Once you have a station like that, just use Starship to get people & cargo to the station & design transfer ships to take you to the Moon, Mars, and beyond.
I like the way you think. :)
Maybe your thinking of VERA station (GatewaySpaceport), not a lot of detail on when they are going to start construction.
Ever been on the Gravitron ride?
That's literally what it would be like. You would need to spin something that small nearly 20 times per minute. Everyone will just end up stuck to the walls. You need something insanely huge to pull off rotating gravity.
Great interview. My family has a long history in spaceflight. My Dad and Granddad worked at Coors Porcelain and they machined high tech ceramics for the Gemini through Space Shuttle programs. My father in law worked at Rocketdyne. Granddad was born in 1902 and lived to see the first shuttle launch. I asked him just before he died what he thought about the space program and his participation in it. He told me he thought it was a waste of money that could have been spent better here on earth but that being said, he was quite candid that his life had spanned going from horse and buggy to Skylab and beyond and he was extremely proud to have participated in it. My mentor in high school was an Electrical Engineer at Martin Marietta and he worked in Waterton canyon but was laid-off after the Saturn Program ended. Me, I'm just a humble retired software test engineer from Lucent Bell Labs.
It would be fascinating to listen to your experiences at Bell labs, electronics and communication are just so cool!
@@kv-2heavytank52 You aren't the only one. I have an unkept promise to post my experiences on my channel and six subscribers waiting. I better get of my rear and just do it. I was the lead technician on the development of the Application Processor before it was miniaturized and integrated into every smartphone and before that I worked as a bed of nails tester in the NPR (New Product Realization) shop where we developed the first all digital PBX telephone switches, cousin of the famous Class V CO switch that still carry much of the internet traffic over them. Another piece of trivia is that my Dad also made chip carriers for the first integrated circuits for WECO, where I started my career with AT&T. I won a beer on a bet one time when I removed the protective coating on a DIP and showed the fella that Coors was etched in gold on it. Fun stories.
I LOVE INTERVIEW VIDEOS BY AA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great show.Great interview.Keep it up thank you
What a phenomenal interview. Thank you immensely for bringing awareness and in depth coverage of what's happening outside of the main headlines
I'm waiting for the day SS hauls 200+ tons of weldable steel coils into orbit
Basically, a rehash of Skylab and that’s a good thing.
But only for the size of it. It does have some next gen features that none of the others even think about yet!
Even Skylab was "only" 6 meters wide...
It would be great to see some spin applied to get some gravity for those on board.
This deserves more than 11k views.
To my way of thinking it would be more economical to make Starship itself the station. If it doesn't need to return it can have less tankage and more space inside giving a massive volume to work with. If tiles are fitted the station itself can be deorbited intact (after a refuel in orbit) both in case of problems or simply for a refit. It can even change orbits if required for various missions. The available volume would be many times that of any other proposed station.
That may come although probably be an orbiting hub structure with 4 docking ports with semi-permanent starship research ships docked at a few of them.
Great Interview with Airbus! I love the European coverage along side the U.S Space coverage this is a WIN WIN. Thank you for the Great Content!
Great interview, I really hope Airbus follow through on this project, there has to be substantial LEO facilities to get the space economy up and running. Inflatable modules are useful in some situations but as Manfred said these are mostly being developed due to limitations in launch vehicles, Airbus must realise that vehicles like Space X's Starship will allow far larger and heavier payloads and they can design Starlab without the constraints that have historically limited orbital stations.
Most agreeable enthusiasm from this hands on scientist. Wish you would have repeated his name several times. I'm pretty sure you said it once, but it escaped me. Indeed it is "time to get passed pioneer phase and start the industrialization phase", as he said.
Manfred Jaumann
@@marc249 ha! Manfred; cool name. The Space Barron maybe!
Great interview ! Thank for being there and doin it ! What a great future we are facing !
Airbus will have a big future, they are very skillful, motivated and creativ. ❤
On the bleeding edge as ever Mr A. Fascinating stuff and looking forwards to more!
That opening is like walking into a giant candy store 🙂
Thanks for covering the Space Symposium!
Good one Angry. Enthusiasm and jobs for the youngsters. That’s where our energies should be focused.
Lot of good ideas here. Thanks Angry! Good interview.
Really good episode with Airbus optimism for the Airbus spacestation and their trust in the Starship launch system. It has balls. Recently I toured the ESA ESTEC facility in the Netherlands but I could not see the same enthusiasm there. It seemed very tired. So going with a commercial company like Airbus is the way forward for Europe in my opinion.
From what I’ve heard the ESA is full of bureaucracy. Think NASA x22 (for each of the member states)
Another excellent interview! Thanks! You're certainly right that there's much to learn from the folks at the Symposium, and it's great to hear them.
Another excellent interview. Angry is in his element. I wonder if the guy from Lockheed Martin heard the discussion about inflatables versus stainless? 'We're doing it because we can' and it is the best - get that toilet out of sight, sound and smell; pickup and delivery. As to the construction process, I would think they would use specially formulated SX stainless.
This is good.
Cool looking space modules 8:35
So much room it looks like scifi, been looking forward to epic non SpaceX payloads for Starship
Seems like another great decision
Outstanding coverage. This trip has been so informative. Keep up the great work and coverage!
Fantastic interview, very interesting chap and an enlightening peek into the state of mind of the guys at airbus and hopefully other companies will have similar thoughts about the upcoming need to industrialise space and set up all the necessary infrastructure to do so. Very exciting time for space nerds.
Exciting, solid content. No video non sequiturs. Refreshingly different. Love it!
Enjoyable interview, good information, looking forward to when the module gets launched 👍
I’m really looking forward to seeing this become reality. I wonder how feasible it would be to send multiple of these space stations up there and connect them all together? Imagine a 12 story or more version of one of these floating around the Earth.
I don't think this module would work like that but they probably have plans for the next station to have an expansion capability.
Very nice interview. Thanks to both of you
You're welcome. Thanks so much for watching!!
You’ve really struck gold with these interviews
Putting something so large made out of stainless steel in space I hope they have backup plans for breaking it up in case they can't control the de-orbit (Obviously during re-entry not whilst on orbit)
I still laugh at the fact I was officered the job of head of the ESA. I wrote back and told them there would be no spaceflight anymore if I got hired. I would have broken it within a day! The PR lady rang me back and we spent about 5 minutes just laughing. She was quite the lovely lady.
Finally, an integrated centrifuge, designed for sleeping! Absolutely needed for long-term micro-g environments. As best as I understand the data, the present ISS exercise machines DON'T totally mitigate long-term micro-g health issues... including the increased aggressiveness of viruses. Only extended frequent noticeable g-force, experienced by ALL body cells, potentially can stop that danger. Bring on the centrifuge!
Absolutely!!
Yet again an amazing interview!
Great interview.
You have craved a niche market here as most other space channels just report on the progress of Starship at Boca Chica, with only token additional content.
Great Update!
😳 Dalek . 😳 Right behind you 😳
Outstanding.
Great interview, cheers 👍
Super great interview Jordan, very exciting!
This guy is also very good, and the direction of Airbus is very promising. 👍
Another fascinating interview. Great work 👍
The content has just been on point!
Very impressive... Great interview keep going...😁
The Angry Astronaut interviews an Airbus engineer about their new space station. This was the first time I had heard that stainless steel was being used as a radiation shield. I asked ChatGPT, “How does stainless steel protect humans from radiation exposure?”
ChatGPT;
Stainless steel itself doesn’t protect humans from radiation exposure in the way that, say, lead does. However, stainless steel is often used in certain applications where radiation protection is required due to its durability, ease of maintenance, and resistance to corrosion.
For example, in medical settings such as hospitals or laboratories where radiation therapy or nuclear medicine procedures are performed, stainless steel may be used in the construction of shielding structures or equipment enclosures. These structures are designed to contain or shield radiation sources, preventing unnecessary exposure to medical personnel and patients.
Stainless steel’s properties make it suitable for these applications because it can withstand harsh environments, including exposure to radiation, without deteriorating or corroding easily. However, it’s the design and construction of shielding structures using stainless steel, rather than the steel itself, that provide protection against radiation exposure.
I like the inflatable concept, but stainless steel is good and cheap. Imagine a few of these modules joined together. That would be huge.
Building it at a shipyard instead of in a clean room should allow for mass production. Ironically this station could be cleaner than the ISS for example. The extra space may be helpful as far as cleanliness. It's difficult to be clean in a cluttered environment.
Biggest difficulty with stainless: Not enough skilled blue collar workers.
Inflatable is the way to go. Thin metal walls will actually make radiation issues worse as cosmic rays will cause a cascade of particles unless there is radiation shielding liner as well. First Principle. Don't cause a problem that you then need to create a solution to remedy.
@@saxonsoldier67there is actually a radiation shield there. It’s called the earths magnetic field.
@@Wurtoz9643 True. It functions well almost all the time. There are space weather events that reduce or eliminate the protection. Metal cylinders still create more problems than they solve.
Great channel, great content. Keep up the good work
Thank you. This is very interesting.
Cheers… appreciate this content 👍👍👍
Thanks!
Thanks SO MUCH for your ongoing support!!
another great video by Angry
Great content.
Another great interview, thanks a lot! 🙂
Starship is going to open up some really cool opportunities in space because of it's heavy lift and large volume, i'd love to see a future where there are multiple private space stations available to visit for science and tourism. If a large space station such as this is able to be launched in just one go around that greatly simplifies things, great job Airbus!
There a dozen or so stations being built already.
Excellent!!
Made for 30 years. It will probably serve for 45 years. No word about attaching more modules to it, but if all works as he talks, there will be additional segments soon. The goal is to move enough mass into low Earth orbit to get heavy industry started up there. Smelting alloys in space may give complete different properties to the material. Interplanetary ships should be made in orbit, as they should be too big to launch from ground.
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Wow!
very interesting
Well, at least Airbus know how to make a plane where door plugs stay on
A iconic hotel chain doing somehing, like Hilton Orbital would be cool.
UAE Astronaut Prince will prob pick one up too.
Then a Vegas casino I'm thinking caesar's palace with a mock reflection of a symmetrical building kinda look but the reflection is actually there in space
Space X and Airbus….a marriage made in heaven? 😂
This is a lot better than the "Space balloon"
ooh congartulations .....do your best i'll do my best to protect people if problem came
The size of those nametags are YUGE!!!!
I like that you can choose between "looking down" & trying to read it, or ask them to let you pick them up (to properly align it with your eyes at your ideal reading distance); while keeping more than 1 arm of distance between each of your heads.
Dahlia would make a cool name for a ship. They can then use letters for subsequent models ... until Dahlia-K.
Thanks for breaking up the interviews. I just don't like to listen to videos longer than 20 or 25 min. thanks again!
Building a huge mars/moon base is easy
Just send 2 starships
w 1,000 square connecting inflatables
some bulldozers to cover them regolith.
fill them up w everything:
Hundreds for growing food
Hundreds for processing water ice
Shady Bars, homes, water pools, theaters, science, industry
i guess eventually we'll see a stainless ship pass a stainless kidney stone.. will starship be able to deliver something of that dimension? it would need a 8m tall garage door?
It's on the launch schedule, spacex have 3 years to get a door that works to get it into space.
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I wonder if Airbus would make an offer for ULA and its contracts?
Great design for the steal module. The centrifuge part is too small for humans there is too much difference between the head and feet would be incredible uncomfortable.
Looked like the cetrefuge pods rotated so they could either provide vertical or horizontal gravity depending it you wer working or sleeping.
@@shaung949 yes that's right
Great video, Jordan! Yes, commercialization of space is the only way to go. Relying on government inititive is always great for beginnings, to see if something can be done, but like the American railroads of yesteryear, get government out of the way and let good old profit mindedness take the lead to building something better and profitable! 👍👍👍
Inflatable is safer and stronger against meteroids
Yea I reckon I’d trust a Airbus over a Boeing spacecraft 😝
If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going!
Did they say how much Starlab weighs?
I would be impressed when we have Artificial Gravity on one of these stations...dont care if its too costly
Money isn't a factor. Reality is.
Rotating won't work on a small habitat & we don't have anything close to the technology to achieve constant acceleration, flip and decelerate.
Am I the only one who thinks a ring of starships spinning would be a good station
Same as if the Space Shuttle's External Tanks had been used to do the same. NASA is a political agency that said no to this because they wanted ISS just like they keep funding SLS even though it is far more costly and less efficient that SpaceX designs. Falcon Heavy could do more for less, but politics keeps the boondoggle going. Space is about economics. Using every bit of leftovers in orbit just makes financial sense.
@@saxonsoldier67 The Falcon Heavy is far less capable than SLS.
@@PistonAvatarGuy True. It takes 2 FH to lift the same mass to LEO as the SLS block 2. Yet, SLS development has cost the equivalent of over 200 FH launches. 200 FH could have lifted a new space station, a lunar base, and several refueling bases in Earth and Lunar orbit. Oh, and done it all by today, not some future date TBD
@@saxonsoldier67 Who's going to pay for a space station, bud? How would a private company make any money off of the thing?
@@PistonAvatarGuy I gave an example of how the SLS money already spent by NASA could have funded all the other projects. I do know that many Universities would love to fund a Farside Lunar Observatory. A private use space station in LEO could perform microgravity manufacturing that is of great interest to Big Pharma. Also, refueling and refurbishing existing satellites in orbit would be economically feasible by creating the space infrastructure.
Start-ups are held back by the government, at least here in Germany they are. Bureaucracy is expensive and not automatable. This overhead alone crrates a dependence on the big incubators who don't care about innovation, only profit. That's one of those macroeconomic problems, apart from austerity politics.
Stainless steel is a low grade faraday cage as it is iron infused with precious soft metals.
Welcome to the day's and Noah's new moon east to west tidal Tsunamis.
I’ve heard you ask many times why starship needs to be so big when there aren’t any customers for a rocket of that size. This guy explains exactly why. There may not be a market for starship at this moment, but that’s because no one would dare invest the capital into making something for orbit when there wasn’t a launch vehicle that could handle it. When starship proves itself and comes online, people will see what it can do and the possibilities it will bring. That will create the market, and it will be a market that space x has exclusive rights to as no one else will
Have a vehicle even close to its capabilities for years. The rest of the world is still trying to copy the falcon 9, for example, and space x will be making that obsolete in the next year or two. Gone will be the days of having to spend years figuring out how to fold spacecraft up origami style (think James Webb). Now companies will be able to just launch big things directly to orbit and at a fraction of the cost as before. It’s going to move mankind forward and start an entire orbital economy. We are living in exciting times.
So a couple of potential customers. Cool story. You know Falcon Heavy has been sitting there for how long now? Hardly any boom in the need to send big things to space
How do content providers get paid if a content subscriber is a youtube premium customer? (Ie no ads).
Loving this content Jordan. 👍👍
I am afraid of inflatables as primary modules. Steel can much better.
Inflatables may be cool but I agree that they should be secondary modules, habitation should always be solid.
Only SpaceX offers the economics and volume capability to support these initiatives in a timely and economically viable manner. However I am surprised that Arianespace is not putting a lot of political pressure to keep this a European project.
I'm sure they would if there was a european rocket that could launch the station but only starship can handle that size of module. Nobody else is even trying to get something that size of the ground.
i am so glad. as a user of stainless-steel cookware, I approve!
Jordan on the spot again! Best coverage of this industry stuff.
One star ship in LEO will be more better.
I disagree. One Starship converted into a space station will never deploy anything to space again. However, that reusable Starship could deploy 20 of these space station modules and make a space city!
@@TheAngryAstronaut I can see an orbital docking hub with research starships attached as an itermediary solution but when starship is operational to orbit then we will see an large increase in dedicated stations.
name and job of airbus guy pls
That is a Dalik, you are being blinded by the Master!
sorry but falcon 9 rockets have much higher flight hours than that rocket; if you rarely use a rocket thats just years not flight time and falcon 9 reuses its rockets
Nobody has that much flight time other than falcon 9, it's even catching some of the historic multi-year rockets. Problem is in this case falcon 9 is just too small.
Wow, Boeing is continually falling behind Airbus! Considering the lead Boeing had built over decades, that is impressive, well done Airbus!
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Would love to see Airbus destroy Boeing not just in the air but in space as well. It’s great that he says the higher up’s let his division work like a startup, that’s the agility a company needs to succeed in this growing industry.