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This sounds like the type of structure that could make a trip to Mars less claustrophobic and less psychologicaly harsh.
Especially if they could get a few of them on a rotor, they’re light enough that the inertia would be much less than a starship, and they don’t have to worry about air resistance.
The novelty would where off fast and your turn Omni man faster than you’d expect
Especially if a lengthy stay on a space station are mandatory. Those that goes nuts can just be dropped into a pod and sent back to Earth.
@@withlessAsbestos that would make the trip really great and much more bearable with artificial gravity!
Damn I was praying that Bigelow really work out! I have been rooting for him from the very beginning!
All space stations are in effect inflatable. A few millimetres of aluminium skin pressurised in the vacuum of space is to all intents and purposes a metal balloon. Using layers of fabric such as Vectron, which is much stronger than aluminium, is actually logical and a better solution in many ways, not least that you can pack a large module into a relatively small delivery vehicle. As to it bursting like a balloon if punctured, that is a fallacy, it just wouldn’t happen with a woven structure.
no they have a rigid structure. you have to understand, the role of the containment, is not only have air, but also to transfer the momentum to the rest of the vehicle. this is why the inflated hab are always design to be at the end of the station and not as a connecting body where it cannot impact the stationkeeping. space station do not just freely float in space, they have to orientate to face the sun or away from it to protect critical component or point the radiator away from the sun, as well as maintain their altitude. try pulling a net around a bunch of balloon and try to balance it, you will have to stuggle, it not that u can't do it, but that mean burning more fuel. the more rigid, the less fuel u have to waste fighting the balancing of the station.
his off the cuff remark at the end that they're more dangerous really didn't seem to be based on anything - I think the creator for a science channel should know better than to make unsubstantiated remarks like that
@@lagrangewei rigid supports within the core section between docking modules. Once pressurized to 250-500mb the rest will become quite rigid in it's own right. we're talking about being in a tire, not a blow up balloon.
As to micrometeorite damage, a, some bounce might actually help prevent much of it from occurring in the first place, an engineered viscous liquid seal could be set permanently in the fabric layers. multiple layers with a gas gap layer between would go a long way to deal with thermal issues.
Radiation? well we could go the route of "Avenue 5" and fill in just below the outer skin with water and, er, waste.
If something is big enough to blow out an inflatable, it will likely do more damage to a rigid hull, with less means to fix it.
No.
Definitely a punch in the gut remark, doesn't make sense to throw that in there at the end @@willaxesawian9242
If nothing else, Inflatable stations would be a way to QUICKLY get infrastructure up there.
Yes and if that isn't deemed sturdy enough for permanent use it could be a start.
Could you please add meters as a measurement in the future? Really like the videos but can’t understand the measurements
like the difference between feets and meters?
This. Can just be text on the screen
@@ChristianGonzalez-gv6yg just a rough number for ya, 3m is roughly 10 feets, so, 78 feet is about 23 meters
@@davidconner-shover51True
Can understand them but why use nonsense murica units when anyone sane and the space industry prefers metric?
My favourite channel on CZcams.. No.. I am not biased 😅
Daddy
@@TilaxsueCombatdude, wtf
Wait wait what? We have actually put inflatable modules in space and they are still there?? That is so cool
Ad Astra
Once again you're doing a deeper dive on a topic we have only seen superficial coverage of elsewhere.
Thank You !
I've always thought this is a brilliant idea. I never knew about Genesis I and II.
This is a deeper dive. It is pretty superficial. A overview at best.
at the time of Bigelow's demise I remember Bigelow not being selected for a contract by Nessa which seemed unfair since the module is good enough to be used and to still be there I suspect the notorious corruption of big aerospace may have been involved Bigelow himself and his company and employees certainly have my sympathies
Cheers
If deployment was a 2 stage process, where it was inflated and then materials like a resin can coat the inside and cure(or between 2 layers/walls, like airtight insulation behind drywall). Smaller payload benfit, but stronger/more rigid final station.
Are inflatables really any more dangerous that a metal shelled habitation ? It's not as it the metal skin is 15mm armoured plate steel. Sure inflatables will go 'BANG' and completely rupture, but that takes a lot of internal pressure. I'm sure they can include bleeder valves to avoid over-pressurisation - not rocket science. Yes they can be punctured by micro-meteors, so can metal shells.
This was absolutely fascinating! Thank you for such an incredible video.
Seems so odd to have such a great idea not used much at all.
I expect we'll start to see these more commonly used in the coming years
@@TheSpaceRaceYT I sure hope so!
Unfortunately a single accident can set back space travel by years if not decades simply due to bad pr so they have to play it safe with stuff like this
@@genericasianperson6405 Understood, by there are decades of development on this sort of thing.
Most of these projects just want free money from the government. Other countries penalize companies for not delivering on their projects. They either get sued or go to jail. Singapore gave Ubisoft money for skull and bones which force the company you have to finish the project but America is to corrupt for that.
i still find it soooo incredibly inscrutible that your channel doesn't already have 1M+ subscribers…!! great work, as always!
Biegelow was so close to getting where they wanted and failed, it's like tripping in the last 10 meters of a race.
I agree. It’s a shame to see a company’s product come so far as to meet (or exceed) the harshness of space, only to see the company fold and vanish. What a waste 🥺.
“It may be dangerous but it’s cool” 😬
That got me too lol 😅!!
The biggest problem of these units is probably that like any other tent they are empty.
Rigit habitats are not necessarily heavier, but they can be fully equipped before the start. It only needs a larger payload fairing.
10:28 wow! Hat's Off 🙏
Great topics on this channel. Thank you!
This is a good idea. I've seen vids on inflatable space habs before. I'll bet that balloon hab on the ISS will last as long as the station. Seems to me a good lightweight solution to future habitat in space. So much of a space module's cost is getting it into orbit and perhaps beyond. Light weight, and compact before deployment are both excellent features. Space craft that don't interact with an atmosphere could be at least partially constructed this way. I'm sure the lab nerds have already done puncture repair experiments on the various composite hab walls. These inflatable habs may prove more collision resistant than a ridgid structure, in regards to lower speed collision, such as a resupply mishap.
Can a radiation shelter be made out of this stuff. Perhaps some hard structures will always be required.
This might be the way. Even if current prototypes don't have the right stuff yet.
The original Von Braun idea was to use an inflatable torus as a structure on which to connect metal plates to complete the station. If he intended to use the inflatable as the station itself, it must have come much later. Watch the Disney movie.
Love your videos
The moon base grow house has star trek dudes in it, 13:42. Funny little inclusion, you gotta love nerdy engineers.
Much was gained from what was lost is a good line.
"They are cool, and that's what space exploration is all about."
another great one. keep it up.
Brilliant idea.
Truly Awesome ... And Scary
Amazing video!!
Thank you!!
Might be dangerous? I am definitely not a material scientist but some of the tests I have seen, and the accompanying reports that have been published, are quite impressive. At least in space simulating vacuum chambers, micrometeorite/debris strike results on inflatables/soft shell sections have been surprising. They not only hold up better than rigid shell designs, the multi-layer design makes them harder to puncture, and the recent window test broke expectations on strength as well. So far all I have seen are lots of pros and little cons.
Imagin a future interplanitary ship like star ship that can have an augmented amount of interior volume while in space , and could mean more dedicated area to payload if the living space dosn't have to be a major part of the intirior of starship or any other future crafts. aka INFLATABLE CRAFTS ARE SUPER COOL!
I'd argue that these inflatable designs are safer than what is currently used with respect to micro meteoroid impacts and even radiation hazards. Many would be surprised at how thin typical spacecraft and even ISS hulls are. Fabrics also can have better armor properties as well as self-sealing abilities built in whereas aluminum or even steel sheets aren't nearly as tough. And in the cold vacuum of space, toughness is more important than hardness.
How about a nuclear powered space tug and a large rotating ring of inflatable space habitats. Year long cruises out to Jupiter or Saturn would be super sweet.
“Los Angeles” blimps? Lol their main airport is in fort lauderdale Florida.
I’m curious what you mean by “Los Angeles” blimps? To the best of my knowledge, Goodyear doesn’t house any of their blimps in Los Angeles and I think there is only one in California.
go metric or burst
If it rotates it could be good, and if there is water in the outershell to stop radiation.
With its multi-layer construction, How big a micrometeorite can Sierra Space’s habitat withstand? How does that compare with other metal vehicles, like the ISS or any of the Apollo spacecraft. I thought those were relatively thin b/c there was no air resistance in space.
Ayo! mister Canada guy, it's just "Goodyear Blimps"
I've always like the inflatable idea. But there is always nothing on the life support system that would be required to make this man-rated for how many months/years?
A velcro-like system could prevent deflation in the event of puncture.
I love your channel
Hi. Enjoy your content, but could you please include metrics in your videos? I know a couple of countries in the world use imperial, but most of us have no idea what you're talking about when saying feet and inches. Thank you.
Nice idea. But space is not empty. International space station astronauts report small clicks sound from debris particles colliding with the station
Great videos, though as a viewer from Europe, whenever the imperial system is used, it becomes difficult to understand the scale. Perhaps mention the metric conversion in the video?
It's not that fkn difficult..
@@bBersZ Thanks for info.
Please use the metric System!
Space exploration is all about “being really cool”? Oh my.
Better than the pay by tron channels 😊
Space will always be dangerous. No matter the habitat. That is why training and redundant systems will be needed.
Can you please put in metric system conversions, love the channel but Its annoying trying to figure out the conversions in my head when trying to picture what your talking about
Keep up the good work thanks👍
How about you learn imperial? America is leading the way into space.
@@ClassicalvsTacticalThe entire world uses metric. What a joke.
@ClassicalvsTactical you sould watch real engineering's video on why the imperial system is shite its very educational
@@yanis905 Agreed. The metric system is a joke.
Learn Imperial.
There is no way BO and SS are getting a station in orbit by 2027.
Are you trying to get/keep subscribers from outside north America? If so, state measurements in both feet and meters. Most of the world uses meters.
Good
It could start as an inflatable and end up as a solid structure later.
Inflated cars, homes, you name it. New materials make just about anything possible.
It's a real shame you didn't include Sierra Space's overinflation test information, only a picture of it exploding at extremely high pressure, much higher than a traditional station section could sustain. In addition, there are self-healing membranes embedded to seal micro-puncture breaches.
These are not balloons waiting to pop. Showing the video of it blowing up without context and some of your other comments is misleading and sensationalist.
The biggest downside to inflatables is the necessity to launch and install interior components separately, another thing not mentioned in your video. This isn't a deal breaker, and may actually end up becoming an advantage, but must be considered.
I guess COVID stuck a pin in this project, huh?
inflatable space station astronaut: its chilly out side but its warm inside my nice puffy ballon
errant meteorite hits station pop. astronaut dies in space.
This video did not dive deep into the material used but it is not just a balloon that you are thinking of. It did show one brief illustration of the layers involved in the technology. It has several layers of a variety of materials that perform several functions including meteor resistant material, think bullet proof vest, as well as being able to store water in the walls to help address radiation issues. I've been tracking this technology since the "Trans Hab" days and there were test done simulating high velocity impact from micro meteors and the Trans Hab material performed much better than the materials currently making up the ISS. Similar sized objects being fired into comparable materials resulted in objects being pulverized when shot into the Trans Hab material vs. large punctures in materials used in the current ISS makeup. Sadly, I think that only a catastrophic event will force the industry to take a more serious look at this technology.
Nope. The meteorite will create a hole s we get a leak that can and will rapidly be plugged. A minimum of air will escape but not enough to be dangerous. Anyone hurt has been hit by the meteorite or by a panicking colleague. We are talking space here. If the station got a normal pressure atmosphere the pressure difference to the outside is minimal. It is going down, especially in submarines, that quickly rake up dangerous pressure differences. Things for not pop in space without a bomb making it pop.
I was always under the impression Bigelow had just been done wrong by NASA
With this video it makes sense that the CEO decided to move on, esp during the beginning of the flu thing
Lots of investing and no return in sight.. time to move on
Good on the man for his attempt, still.
With so much space junk around earth I would feel naked on one of those
what will it be like inside a Deflatable Space Station?
i thought Orbital Reef is dead as BlueOrigin droped it
The bubble of Damocles.
Yeah, one tiny weeny micro asteroid or human space junk fly right through, best take a roll of Gaffer tape with you.... lol
Can you make a video about how much donation every one gets from governments compared to private sector eg. Space X
Hasn't there been enough inflation?
Gotta get out there and look around first
Yeah do that
@TheSpaceRaceYT how hard it is to mention the dimensions in metric system along the imperial?? One is fully enjoying your videos until you suddenly mention information that needs one to stop the video (multiple times) and use a calculator or google!! Would you ? please be kind to your international audience? Thanks in advance
Other planets are for suckers it’s hard enough getting off this rock. Give me a few hundred bubbles in space and turn it into a space civilization.
Any structure that would support human life in space would be pressurized/, what is really the difference...you would think this would be a good place for NASA to throw big money at
They always show the inflatable habitats with hardly any windows!😢
NASA didn’t REALLY want to work with Bigalow.
My worry - radiation exposure.
Yo bad NASA didn't support Bigelow earlier.
Its pretty obvious there was never any type of life on Mars - no fossils, not even of plant life. Not only that but any type of ocean would have no tides...😢
Why would their be no tides? Mars has the moon and sun.
@@catprog Mars doesn't have a large enough moon 🌕
They might have their heart set on Mars but find something else better maybe
Wernherr ❤️
Space balloon? Why just send it up as a balloon like they do satellites and Zeppelins
Just from what he said at the very beginning I'm thinking of the Titanic accident submarine the rich guys down there blowing themselves up or imploding yeah have fun you rich people😂😂😂
Is it safe, Laurence? ..!.
If space debris can poke holes in Russian spacecraft wouldn't an inflatable space station pop like a balloon?
some one is nerfing human research....its starts to be obvius
NICE POP BALLOON for micro meteors and rocks
No. They are built with micro meteorites in mind. The layers are very strong.
At last you won't know if you get hit by space junk
Micro meteors?
Accounted for.
Elon and SpaceX are the only ones serious about space.
To bad Bigelow was ahead of its time.
The B330 mockup would be more impressive if they deployed it in a giant vacuum chamber and it only could be entered using actual space suits.
Please use meters! Only the US uses feet and inches. 😑
Universe se cute tango toh minerals se cure
Hope we dont end with tourism 😪
beauer 3xc
OK. SNC proved that if you overinflate to an absurd value a LIFE module it will blow up. What happens if you inflate to the operational value and shoot holes in it. Does it fall apart or is it stable so you can patch the holes.
Of course it's stable. That's a basic design requirement. If it wasn't they wouldn't even consider further testing. Also, you dont need to actually poke a hole in a complete structure just to find out. And if they did, it really isn't very exciting to watch... That big pop was pretty cool to watch. But they did it to find out the failure pressure so they can calculate safety margins. It's a requirement by the regulatory body (faa?)
@@jimgoplayoutsideable I'm guessing that it is a nasa requirement.
Space race only deserves 4M subs
yeah
his videos are so interesting
why not using metric system? :)
Why not using Imperial system?
@@ShadeDraws Science and Space are generally done in metric.
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Unless it has faux gravity, then it’s waste of time. I thought that’s what the ISS has proven, that man can’t do well in zero gravity.
If plants are grown in the inflatable modules, might the plant shoots or roots grow through the inflatable material and create a puncture resulting in a catastrophic failure?
Just cactus....
@@kevingee4294 lol