Glock 25 cent Trigger Job Tutorial: Best DIY tips for beginners

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  • čas přidán 21. 10. 2019
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    Dont forget to polish the rails on your frame. Might be a good time to polish the feed ramp on your barrel too. Also I like to clean up parts with any oil lube and then wipe them down thoroughly before reinstalling them.

Komentáře • 134

  • @CycloneGunworks
    @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +64

    Don't forget to polish your frame rails as well.👌

  • @joshvan3299
    @joshvan3299 Před rokem +16

    Love how u point everything out with punch

  • @indyglf
    @indyglf Před rokem +6

    I’ve done this to my 3 Glocks. The trigger bar and connector look brilliant, but I don’t notice any difference in the trigger pull. However, if it’s a weekend and the only thing on tv is the WNBA, yeah go for it. I consider it regular maintenance on a firearm, but not that necessary. I know many of you are detail oriented, engineering types who are fussy about such things. If this makes you happy, I am all for it.

  • @Wordisbondo
    @Wordisbondo Před 2 lety +31

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. Very informative and the end result when I followed your instructions was top shelf. Amazing!

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you, so very glad to hear I helped out another supporter.

  • @gunsandcommissions
    @gunsandcommissions Před 3 lety +33

    This is an excellent video. There’s another video that pops up ahead of this one when you search 25 cent glock trigger job and the dude doesn’t even polish half of the mating surfaces and instead polishes random spots. He even polished the wrong end of the safety plunger that goes against the spring inside of the slide as opposed to the side you show that actually interfaces with the trigger bar.
    I know these videos take way more work than it appears, so I appreciate you taking the time to do this.

  • @12gaFreedom
    @12gaFreedom Před 2 lety +12

    This video is amazing. Thank you. I needed exactly this while building my first glock.

  • @HenAndPenn
    @HenAndPenn Před rokem +2

    Amazing mirror finish. Great video thanks

  • @Kensh1D
    @Kensh1D Před rokem +3

    Nice tutorial. Worked out well. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

  • @Ben-lo7cy
    @Ben-lo7cy Před 11 měsíci +2

    Super well spoken tutorial. I shoot a good bit but don’t really add a bunch of stuff to pistols but I’ve been thinking about doing this

  • @caseykuntz5249
    @caseykuntz5249 Před 2 lety +8

    I have found that diamond polishing paste works really well. It's available in a lot of different grits up to 200,000 and you can get an absolutely amazing finish

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      Yep I also use jeweler's rouge sometimes, just depend how you do your stages.

    • @caseykuntz5249
      @caseykuntz5249 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CycloneGunworks I might have to try that next time.

  • @thehonkening
    @thehonkening Před 3 lety +19

    Awesome trigger job, did it just like you did, did three Glocks with it I love how it worked, made my Gem 5 G17 trigger like butter, did my Gen4 G26 and the reset is perfect, even my Gen 2 G17 trigger smooth out, even more, Love it, thanks for putting it out. Chreers

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +3

      Good stuff man. Makes cleaning a lot easier too

    • @shahreyaralam1019
      @shahreyaralam1019 Před rokem +1

      That's means one does not replace anything and without compromising your Glocks dependibility u get an amazing trigger . Am I right?. I don't want to put after market parts in my Glock.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      Yes, that is correct. It simulates the natural wear of a few thousand rounds through a finely broke in glock. It also makes your internals VERY easy to clean carbon off of.

  • @johnochicago8457
    @johnochicago8457 Před měsícem

    I'm going to watch this several times before I try it. I also need a Dremel. Thank you very much!!!!

    • @Dnballznyajawz
      @Dnballznyajawz Před měsícem

      you can do the same with your hands and a rag, just takes more finesse

  • @irafowlerjr.7492
    @irafowlerjr.7492 Před rokem +1

    Helpful info, thanks

  • @TheEndtime60
    @TheEndtime60 Před 3 lety +2

    Very cool Channel bro! And love the music. Looking forward to more of your videos👍

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Much appreciated

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +1

      You see my last few videos? I just put up a a few epic Tutorials in the past month or so with all my tool product links attached in description 👍

  • @DerekSpeareDSD
    @DerekSpeareDSD Před rokem +2

    great work!

  • @ThePatriotParadox
    @ThePatriotParadox Před 2 lety +1

    NICs work, I always go through these steps when first getting any Glock or Glock style pistol.

  • @RoostedFilms
    @RoostedFilms Před 2 lety +1

    Great vid thanks

  • @tripplebeards3427
    @tripplebeards3427 Před 2 lety +7

    Just did a polish job on my brand new, unfired , Glock’s trigger parts. It now brakes at actual 3.5 pounds. It was so heavy before I started that it bottomed out my 4.5 pound scale and kept pulling so I don’t know how heavy it was to begin with. I would have to say it was around 5.5 pounds to start with if I had to guess.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +2

      Love it, that's awesome. Usually they do start at 5.5

  • @kaedonfa9078
    @kaedonfa9078 Před 3 lety +4

    Very informational video my guy! If anyones butchers this, it’s because they didn’t pay attention 💯

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly , thanks man. I purposely avoided any mods or shaping work that hs a chance of compromising components. With that being sad I am working on a more advanced video right now for people who want to have their metal contact points even more refined by safely shaping them using a wet stone and a little bit of different polishing methods. Not for beginners but ill be sure to explained the risks vs rewards for all mi DIYers out there. I appreciate your support and make sure you subscribe w/ notifications. Not gonna get a ton of bell sounds from me but you don't wanna miss the good videos here and there.

  • @j.p.4541
    @j.p.4541 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you for a fantastic tutorial, definitely what I was looking for. Beginner question, do you stop when it’s shiny as not to remove too much material?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +6

      With mothers mag you won't harm anything. I usually get it to where it looks good and then do one more pass.

  • @edmundoregalado9772
    @edmundoregalado9772 Před 2 lety +1

    Right on!

  • @CookieMayne710
    @CookieMayne710 Před rokem +8

    Awesome tutorial!!! I'm new to firearm ownership myself and it's hard to find good content that explains basic concepts of gunsmithing but you did a phenomenal job! I do have a question though, for parts that come with a coating on them such as my Beretta 92 s Xtreme trigger parts that have the "DLC" (Beretta's proprietary "Diamond Lile Coating") would polishing effect the durability of the finish at all or just make it shiny? I really want to polish the short reset trigger bar before I install it just because I'll be doing the rest of the internals at the same time but I don't want to compromise the DLC finish. I don't THINK it would but I'd rather ask and be called an idoit than do it, screw it up and be called an idoit😄

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem +4

      Thanks for the support. Youll be okay with the DLC coating. It can be harmed w sandpaper or if you run your dremel dry or too fast. A burn can occur. It's easy enough to avoid, you can actually feel the heat in the part as youre holding it. If you want to play it safe, just put a micro fiber cloth on a table and skim polish your parts on it by hand. That way you'll definitely be okay but I'd personally dremel away in a ¼ of the time. I just need to stress the importance of running at a low speed and keeping the polish tip and part covered. As soon as you make contact, the polish will turn black and start to evaporate slowly, just keep doing wipe offs and add more polish.

    • @jeffreyliu2289
      @jeffreyliu2289 Před 10 měsíci

      Heads up - DLC is not proprietary

  • @5jjt
    @5jjt Před 3 lety +2

    Don't forget to remove the STAMPING Mark's from the edge, not the face, of the bird's beak. Very crucial.

  • @a.wheeler7731
    @a.wheeler7731 Před 3 lety +1

    What is the song called for the timelapses? Edit* I shazam apped it and it says its Invisible Starlight by Audrey Morgan. Cool soundtrack and thanks for the video. I cant seem to find an instrumental only version, do you have a link to that?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety

      Nice detective work for real👍it just so happens that she landed a deal with Samsung. So in my samsung video editor it is a file option as just an instrumental. Can't send it or I would.

  • @johnL-xk2js
    @johnL-xk2js Před 2 lety +1

    well done.

  • @yeshua1176
    @yeshua1176 Před 4 lety +4

    Wish we could see a before and after trigger pull and reset maybe show us on a trigger gauge👍

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +4

      Absolutely I hear ya on that. I will tell you from doing multiple, that it averages about 5 oz off the pull. Not so much, it's much more about having a very smooth grit-free, snag-free trigger pull and reset as well as slide action when racking after you polish your rails as well. Try it out you'll love it.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +9

      Just thought I'd add. If your looking to lighten your trigger just get a 3.5# trigger connector, a reduced power safety plunger spring, and a 4.5# trigger spring (no less) on a edc setup.👍

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +4

      @@yeshua1176 sweet man sounds like a fun one. I'm looking to get a glock 41 soon🤣 it's silly, but I cant help it I want the biggest dog in the yard lol

    • @KayoMonei
      @KayoMonei Před rokem

      I’m looking to get rid of some of the creep in my trigger

    • @jallen312
      @jallen312 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@CycloneGunworkswhat will this do for the trigger pull, and could I just install for Glock 3.5 - connector and that’s it?

  • @timr3191
    @timr3191 Před 2 lety +1

    Ty sir

  • @jessecopeland9728
    @jessecopeland9728 Před 4 lety +2

    Where can I find that polishing bit or do you have a part number or brand? Also what rpm roughly do you recommend? Cool videos man keep it up!

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +7

      You can search on amazon for (polishing dremel tips) I recommend getting the ones that have the metal shaft attached. Super cheap for a 50pc kit on amazon. Btw your speed wont necessarily matter when polishing I like to run it almost full speed. Just dont let that bit sit on your part dry. Keep dipping parts/tip in your polish👍

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +1

      Gotta look at my newest video best detail yet every step. I have all my best tool links in the description too👍

    • @JayyBird93
      @JayyBird93 Před 2 lety

      @@CycloneGunworks where’s the newest video? All I see are stippling videos

  • @MichaelHellmann13
    @MichaelHellmann13 Před 2 lety +2

    Can this be done using polish and some qtips and elbow grease? Or would you recommend investing in a dremmel?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      You can do it with qtips and a microfiber cloth. I'd recommend a dremel always though. They are super handy for all types of uses as well.

  • @usfreedom22
    @usfreedom22 Před 3 lety +2

    How often do you polish the trigger? Is it a once and done or do you redo it after a few hundred rounds

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety

      It's really only necessary to do one time or maybe once a year at the most

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +2

      Gotta look at my newest video best detail yet every step. I have all my best tool links in the description too👍

  • @kombatboiiii5747
    @kombatboiiii5747 Před rokem

    I heard that it thins the putter metal and make the inner weaker . So do I polish them or I don’t , I heard it from 2 gun smiths

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      Belts and dremels used incorrectly can cause issues that could effect you over years with corrosion if not oiled normally. It's better to polish than not to polish so you can have the easy cleanable parts and smoother functions. If you still have concerns about a high value/rare firearm, or have a very high duty dependance you can polish by hand and also use jeweler's rouge. Just keep in mind that some people will tell you false info rather than admitting they aren't fully knowledgeable on the subject. I can't tell you how many "gunsmith" stippled grips I've had to completely re-do. Gunsmiths are generally pretty knowledgeable, but the really good ones will admit they don't know it all. One of the leading experts on glock trigger work is Johnny Glocks and all his parts are polished if that trlls you something. Hope this helps bud. Let me know if you have any other questions 👍

  • @FOURFTP
    @FOURFTP Před rokem +1

    Okay I just bought a new trigger and it came with a polish bar. Do I have to polish anything else ?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      All the components mentioned in the vid are recommended 👌

  • @juniorgonzalez48322
    @juniorgonzalez48322 Před 2 lety +2

    Got a p80 /G22 40cal and my trigger of kinda stiff and clicks if the gun is in battery or not . My first build so idk what it could be . I tried bending the connector from the trigger a little bit but got no luck . Also tried changing the spring on the firing pin and no luck . Should I go all OEM parts on the frame ? Any help y’all ?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety

      That's a tough one without pics. Look on facebook for the groups on p80 stuff "polymer80 master" is a good group. Super helpful community there with a lot of experience.

    • @juniorgonzalez48322
      @juniorgonzalez48322 Před 2 lety

      @@CycloneGunworks yes I tried bending the trigger connector and it got stiffer and to completely loose trigger no reset at all . It’s my first build , was pretty fun building it . I’m going to reassemble the trigger again a snd polish parts and sand parts down more and hopefully I get it going . Thanks for the info !!

    • @CorrineC-ez1fj
      @CorrineC-ez1fj Před měsícem +1

      OEM parts for 80% builds is the way to go. I’ve built like 6 PF940C pistols and 1 PF940SC. Once I bought an eBay slide. The striker (firing pin) broke just from dry fire. A Swenson slide from Midway USA is not a bad slide just make sure the slide parts kit and the trigger are OEM.
      Only thing that I have changed that wasn’t OEM is a Taran Tactical ultimate connector kit. $40 or $50 and it reduces the trigger pull weight drastically.
      I’ve heard good things about Johnny Glocks triggers but I’m not paying $300 or $400 for a damn Glock trigger. Plus he has people that he pays to do his triggers it’s not like he personally does them.

  • @LouMonestime
    @LouMonestime Před 4 lety +5

    Do you recommend polishing the rails on the slide too ?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +3

      Definitely the rails on the frame. The slide rails don't need any polishing tho. Just a good cleaning with angled picks, etc.

  • @jacobmurray3873
    @jacobmurray3873 Před 2 lety +1

    How often do you polish?
    Having issue with p80 g17 trigger sticking really bad. Can’t pull trigger back an then it’s stays ware I stop pulling. Any videos of reassembling g17

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like it could be related to a blockage or jam in your channel liner or something similar. I don't have any assembly videos cus CZcams haters, but you typically only have to polish parts once, preferably after a few hundred rounds are broken in. They will be very easy to clean once polished. I do repolish after a few thousand rounds but it's not necessary. Keep hunting though you'll figure it out.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      It could be as small as a spring cup being lodged. Wish I could help more.

    • @johnb.6468
      @johnb.6468 Před měsícem

      A Chinese lower parts kit might need the trigger pin ground down and polished. I was having this same issue until I took a dremel and removed some material from the trigger pin

    • @jacobmurray3873
      @jacobmurray3873 Před měsícem

      Thank you guys sorry for late reply it’s working well polish job new crucible

    • @GiuseppeBerna
      @GiuseppeBerna Před 5 dny

      @@jacobmurray3873late reply? Man that was two years ago🤣

  • @Jordan-ql6tm
    @Jordan-ql6tm Před 3 lety

    Will polishing help potential rust develop over time? Do you greasy or just lube those now clean parts?

    • @Jordan-ql6tm
      @Jordan-ql6tm Před 3 lety +1

      Had a buddy with a pos px strom (I'm biased lol) who polished his internals & that long ass trigger pull was so inconsistent we would laugh when handing it to shooters who haven't fired it and laugh at their weird expressions trying to figure out when that damn thing would actually go pop lol, seemed to fire randomly on either the short or long side of the pull if that makes sense lol?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +1

      Rust will always be a problem until its coated w something. However you can lightly sand and polish away rust but you MUST lube it and keep it lightly oiled as needed. Maintenance is a must w rust

    • @Jordan-ql6tm
      @Jordan-ql6tm Před 3 lety +1

      Right on appreciate the response & informative video keep em comin bud lol. Have you ever coated your internals with a more permanent coating? Always been an old ww2 era long gun guy so I just greased those oldies and never had an issue, but it would be nice to coat and forget those small parts permanently but question is would a coating add much thickness to those already small parts & negatively effect operation?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jordan-ql6tm Cerakote clear is always a good one.

    • @Jordan-ql6tm
      @Jordan-ql6tm Před 3 lety +1

      I'm gonna share the 💩 outta your channel bud appreciate the info.

  • @arlissyoung8899
    @arlissyoung8899 Před rokem +2

    Anything you can do for a Glock trigger it needs to be done. 30 Years in the running and has been in first place from the first day till this very time as the Worst trigger of any gun on the market. Very long pretravel, spongy, soft mussy break then the long trip back home to reset. I love it when people tell me O I don't mind the factory Glock triggers, I like it. WOW it's your lie tell it anyway you want to. I want get started on the grip angel.

    • @wis1024
      @wis1024 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Lol i like the grip (angle)

    • @arlissyoung8899
      @arlissyoung8899 Před 9 měsíci

      @@wis1024 Many people like the grip angel. Nevertheless I found most start out with a Glock and not other guns like the 1911-2011 style angels that give a much better pointing and sight picture. Being old school has it's down sides.

  • @JT-xi7el
    @JT-xi7el Před rokem +1

    Looks like you use white polish then come back with a black polish? What is that?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem +1

      It's just the white polish. It immediately turns black when cleaning/polishing something.

  • @c-note4146
    @c-note4146 Před 2 lety

    🤔 to troll or not to troll…? I’ll do a little of both: some cringe-worthy stuff here, repeatedly call an axle shaft a drive shaft! 🤣 ok, jokes aside…some good tips you shared 👍

  • @kennylavay8492
    @kennylavay8492 Před 3 měsíci

    Seems as though you could also use tooth paste to get maybe a better polishing . tooth paste may be a little more abrasive .

  • @chinov9445
    @chinov9445 Před 2 lety +1

    💯🤙🏽

  • @muddog1561
    @muddog1561 Před 4 lety +2

    How often will this need to be done? After firing a few hundred rounds the parts are going to get gunked up again.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 4 lety +5

      Great question. Generally only necessary one time to remove the factory carbon and machine marks. Then the components will work smoother but most important. Your gun cleaning labor is minimal after range days because the polished surfaces clean up easier and dont accumulate as much crap either. All around great project everyone should do on every glock.

    • @death2pc
      @death2pc Před 3 lety +4

      I was always of the silly notion that FULLY cleaning and relubing ANY firearm after use was correct. Perhaps I have a great deal to learn.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 3 lety +2

      Definitely clean and lube every time

  • @Hammam-Alharith
    @Hammam-Alharith Před rokem

    my trigger became hard, i need 2 hands so i can pull although it is new

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      I don't fully understand what you mean, help me out.

    • @Hammam-Alharith
      @Hammam-Alharith Před rokem

      @@CycloneGunworks i received my new G19, the trigger very hard to pull, not less than 10 lb

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      @Hammam-Alharith gotcha, that can be hard to diagnose without seeing but it could be a heavy spring, heavy connector, or an issue with the channel liner or spring cups. Wish I could help more bud. I would advise you to do a full part inspection and/or take it to a glock armorer. Should be an inexpensive fix.

  • @2047theway
    @2047theway Před 2 lety +1

    Gen 5 saftey plunger fits in gen 3 ?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      No it will not. Pretty inexpensive for a gen 3 plunger though.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      Not saying there's not a way to make it wor, but you would need other Gen. 5/4 parts and be pretty knowledgeable how the glock internals work,. So even if possible, just not worth it.

    • @2047theway
      @2047theway Před 2 lety

      @@CycloneGunworks can’t find oem gen 3 plunger only gen 5 and the gen 5s go for like 10$ max with the spring I can only can find gen 3 aftermarket custom plungers that are like 20-30$ dollars

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      @@2047theway it's all those p80s being built. Add some to a watch list for an email reminder. Or if your in a rush grap the apextactical polished rounded one in stock right now for 17.95 👍

    • @2047theway
      @2047theway Před 2 lety +1

      @@CycloneGunworks ye I bet but I ain’t tryna mess up my slide or change he anything so ima just keep looking till I find a fairly priced one and Its funny you say cause I actually need the part for a p80 build I’m working on I just have an extra slide and frame and a lower parts kit but no upper so I gotta order a nice upper parts kit or buy individual parts and I chose individual parts personally saves me money and usually like to stick with oem parts or upgraded parts I know are reliable

  • @BradM766
    @BradM766 Před 3 lety +1

    Mmkay level 9000 Jesus Christ

  • @METALGRAMMYS
    @METALGRAMMYS Před 2 lety +6

    Guys don’t forget to have your girlfriend polish your knob!

    • @stevek343
      @stevek343 Před 2 lety +1

      Already did 🌭.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      Just stay away from that mothers polish lol😄😢 sorry had to say it

  • @herrent
    @herrent Před 2 lety +2

    Trigger pull readings would be helpfull

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      It doesn't take much weight off. About ¼ to ½ of a lb. It's more for the smooth feeling pull and the firearm to function better while everything is reciprocating. Also amazingly easy to clean after polishing.

    • @herrent
      @herrent Před 2 lety +1

      @@CycloneGunworks my new G17 has 8.5 lb pull. Something is wrong. Any ideas why?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 2 lety +1

      It could be the bend angle of your connector or an issue with drag in your firing channel. Glock issues are hard to chase without visuals because most of the parts work in accordance to each other so it's like each issue can be from 5 different reasons. I'd do a full dissassembly to check things. On a side note, I run all my weapons with a ghost 3.5# connector, 4.5lb striker spring, reduced plunger spring, and for Gen 4 and prior the high powered trigger return spring as well.

  • @Drawde907
    @Drawde907 Před 3 měsíci

    You can take a micro fiber rag and some gun oil and get the same results, glock parts are already slick and shinny under the metal treatment they're using .
    Guess this makes it faster though

  • @_its_finn698wilson-drew9
    @_its_finn698wilson-drew9 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey I’m from Australia 🇦🇺 and I can’t buy those metal parts over here and I would like to buy them if anyone has some that I could buy of them that would be great 👍 I’ll pay the cost for them and shipping and extra

  • @danielberry6060
    @danielberry6060 Před rokem +1

    Some elevator music would have been nice.

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před 11 měsíci

      sorry im still trying to figure out how to not get copyright strikes without buying rights

  • @garybarbatelli1972
    @garybarbatelli1972 Před rokem +1

    This isn’t the original 25 cent trigger job.

  • @creepingdeth141
    @creepingdeth141 Před rokem +1

    Can we get a pull gauge before and after the polish?

    • @CycloneGunworks
      @CycloneGunworks  Před rokem

      I can tell you first hand it's only a ¼ lighter at the most. (2-4 Oz difference) it's more about the overall feel and also the easy cleaning of carbon when polished.