Why are Pokemon Scarlet and Violet STILL Broken? - EP86 Kit & Krysta Podcast
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Hi and welcome to episode 86 of the Kit & Krysta Podcast! This week we'll be examining why Cyberpunk 2077 started out super rough but turned it all around to become a darling comeback story but Pokemon Scarlet and Violet are more broken than ever. Also in this episode, we share a handful of games we've been playing and loving including a new one on the Playdate that will scratch your Castlevania itch. We talk about Jim Ryan's sudden retirement from PlayStation in the news and wrap it all up with a handful of great questions from our Patreon family. All of this and more is coming up!
0:00 - Yes, Krysta is still in China
12:41 - Games we are playing (Baldur's Gate 3, Castle Tintagel, Covert Dock 2)
34:51 - Why is Cyberpunk fixed but Pokemon is still broken?
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1:23:07 - Questions from our Patreon subscribers
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#pokemon #pokemonscarletandviolet - Hry
Thanks for bringing up the issues with Pokemon. It’s really important and healthy for the series when big channels open the conversation about it. TPC needs a wake up call.
Neither is this a big channel nor was this a conversation that needed opening up since it has been ongoing ever since the games came out and has recently been re-ignited by the lacklustre DLC
I'm so glad they spoke about it, Kit & Krysta are the realest!
I regret purchasing the DLC before the release date. I’ve been a lifelong fan and have purchased all the games but these newest ones had so much potential to be the best in the series if they weren’t crunched. Coming back to the game after playing TOTK was very underwhelming. I couldn’t even bring myself to finish the DLC. I don’t think I’m going to buy the next games on the release date because these games feel like cash grabs at this point.
I wish the Pokémon section in this episode went for a little longer. I'm a big Pokémon fan and I could vent about the poor development of Pokémon games since the switch to the 3DS with X and Y for hours. A suggestion would be to have someone very knowledgeable about Pokémon for a true deep dive into this topic on a future episode if that's something Kit, Krysta and the listeners are interested in.
Even if you really enjoyed any of the Gen 6, 7, 8 or 9 games, it's clear that in all of these games there is a certain amount of polish and content that's been missing compared to the GBA and DS pixel games (Gen 3, 4 and 5).
The sales were made. There is no incentive for the company because the fanbase is rabid. It should be embarrassing for them to fumble such a valuable IP over and over. I don’t understand the lack of pride they have in the product they sell (in two versions!) with every installment.
Imagine if Nintendo did this with Mario or Zelda?
Or better, imagine if the Mario or Zelda teams were in charge of the Pokémon franchise. It would be legendary for more than sales.
Because Nintendo lives/dies on actual game sales of things like Mario and Zelda, and Pokémon as a company lives/dies on the _merchandise_ sales. The games just exist now as an excuse to make new monsters for merch. It’s not that GF doesn’t care, it’s that TPC instills a very strict 3 year deadline and GF doesn’t have a choice. They have hired more people, but it still takes X amount of time to do Y and it’s not enough time. Especially not an open-world game for a studio that only recently made HD 3D games. Doesn’t help that they were also working on Legends Arceus at the same time. Even if that game’s world is much simpler.
I have no clue how this new game with Epic (or whoever it is) is gonna work when they already barely have the staff or time needed to make Pokémon games. It’s good creatively for the team to branch out, but it’s going to cause problems.
I like your dog
I believe the collab you are thinking of is with Take-Two, Project Bloom. @@mrshmuga9
Kit saying, “Hey doc, you up?!” Broke me 😂😂😂
Krysta, you just missed an opportunity! When the dialog about Better Help started, you should have started crying and said that Kit was so mean, now you were going to need to schedule some additional Better Help! 😂
Worth mentioning the redemption arc of no man's sky as well. To this day they are still adding free content to it. It's the perfect game for the steam deck with how perfectly it runs.
Also, the usb hub should work fine if you ever need to connect it to a TV while away.
They already mentioned No Man's Sky
The puzzling thing to me about Pokemon is how in the past, mainline Pokemon games generally always had a pattern of the first game they made on a platform being pretty middle of the road visually and from a techincal standpoint for that platform, but their final game on their respective platform usually ended up being a technical showpiece and one of the best looking games on the system. Gold and Silver are some of the best looking original Game Boy games, Black2 and White2 on DS, and Ultra Sun and Moon on 3DS for example.
For whatever reason, the mainline Switch games went backwards visually with each release. When Let's Go Pikachu came out I thought it looked fine as a foundation for where Pokemon games on Switch could go and build off of visually. I never imagined it would end up being the most visually consistent experience of the mainline games on the entire platform, but here we are. Scarlet and Violet's visuals and technical issues are so bad, it is one of only two games I've played in my entire life to give me motion sickness, unless I play in handheld with reduced brightness to make visuals and inconsistent framerates less noticeable even though they are still there.
I just find it disingenuous when people say Pokemon was never about graphics thus this doesn't really matter. Pokemon almost ALWAYS has been a series about graphics (and maximizing the physical hardware's features and capabilities, which also appeared to be punted on Switch, but that's another story) prior to the Switch. This has been even more-so the exemplified with Pokemon Spin-off games (Stadium, Snap, PBR, Pokken, Detective Pikachu 3DS, etc.) of which their entire existence is almost entirely based around being visual showcases.
Spin-off visuals luckily appeared to still matter on the Switch with the likes of New Pokemon Snap, but with Detective Pikachu 2 joining the club of one of the ugliest recent Nintendo published games alongside Scarlet and Violet now that I've had the chance to play DP2, I really hope they haven't decided that all things Pokemon don't need any focus on visuals and performance because they know people will buy it anyway. Cause honestly as someone who has been playing the games since 1999, I, like many others, did in-fact play Pokemon games partially due to the graphics.
Sorry for the rant, I never comment on CZcams, but I just really needed a place to air out my laundry on these games since I love the series so much, but it seems like they really want me to stop loving it lol.
This isn't even remotely true. The 3DS games in particular ran very poorly, and SM didn't even support stereoscopic 3D. At least the Switch games are capable of running 2v2 battles without the framerate slowing to single digits.
@@FirstEmperor I played Sun+Moon on a New 3DS, so the only place I remember having anything really rough with performance was in those optional photo taking segments.
So I just watched a comparison video of OG 3DS vs New 3DS performance on those games, and yeesh, yeah you're right. That's brutal on the original hardware in multi-battles lol.
I will point out Cyberpunk isn't quite "totally" fixed, but fixed enough where the bugs that remain don't ruin anything. Like having a GTA 4 swingset launch after ramming a guy against a guard rail, that's just hysterical, not game breaking and bad.
Pokemon...well, Game Freak and or The Pokemon Company don't care, they keep gluing themselves to a strict multimedia schedule and QA is not going to keep them from launching broken messes over and over and over if it keeps selling the same amount.
Pokemon Sword and Shield was the first Pokemon game I had played since Red/Blue as a child. I was so underwhelmed and bored with it that I won't be buying them anymore unless they make massive improvements to actually try. They need to stop making them every single year and reflect Nintendo level of quality.
Bro SwSh are my least favorite, what a sad story. If you ever get a chance, PLEASE go back and play any of gens 3-5. You won’t regret it.
“Find a way” to play the 2D ones. SwSh was so linear that the entire map resembles a straight line, lol. The older ones have more branching paths. I’d say ORAS is great. It’s missing the battle tower (if you care, I don’t), but it has both branching paths (that isn’t just too much empty space), and also in 3D with nice visuals effects on moves, which got changed or downgraded in the Switch games. X/Y felt kinda basic, but it’s a solid point as it has a bunch of great new designs, with a ton of old ones mixed in. Sun/Moon’s challenges as opposed to gyms frankly suck, and it also runs poorly in battle because it has a bunch of horde battles it’s high poly models that weren’t optimized for the 3DS. It has some cool designs too (including regional forms), but I’d say ORAS or X/Y are better as middle ground options. Especially since you’re only going to play maybe one or two games and not the entire series. Plus, Mega Evolutions are cool (in those two games, but not S/M).
1:16:29 “Its across the street from a Target and Armadillo Willy’s” Kit can say the funniest thing without missing a beat and be completely factual at the same time 😂
I thoroughly regret purchasing the DLC. I was very naïve in thinking the game would be fixed, but it's more of the same. 😪
IMO, these kinds of "redemption arcs" really aren't something to celebrate because it sends the message to publishers that it's OK to push out unfinished games and then fix them after the fact with the money you made from undiscerning customers who are basically acting as beta testers. Like, the only thing this Cyberpunk situation tells me is that the game launched almost three years early despite already having been delayed multiple times at that point.
Hypernormalization at work man, nobody has any fight in them to really put their foot down and stop it. You'd prevent it by not buying these broken products once you found out... still didn't stop cyberpunk from selling over 10 million within its launch. Still hasn't stopped pokemon either apparently... just like with microtransactions the people failed to prevent it from becoming the norm
You guys always post just in time for my commute! :)
Do you think maybe they've tested Pokémon on the follow up to the switch and it runs fine, so they intend to release a "deluxe" version on that, and include the dlc to sweeten the deal. No expensive, time consuming switch optimisation needed. I'm not a Pokémon fan, personally, but this APPARENT attitude of "not worth the effort as it still sold" is bad for the whole industry.
Doubtful. Sword/Shield were also not the most polished games, and also had (less severe) performance issues. One might also look towards BoTW/ToTK to see what is possible as far as open world performance on the Switch. Really it just comes down to poor optimization, and nothing in Scarlet/Violet gives any indication it was at any point being developed for more powerful hardware. (Look at other ports for Switch from more powerful systems, they all have a very similar "down-ported" quality to them that you would also expect in scarlet/violet if it was originally developed for a more powerful platform.)
@@JasperPeters I didn't suggest or think it was originally designed for the Switch's successor. Merely that they may use a planned deluxe style port's decent performance on that system as an internal excuse for not fixing the optimisation issues on the Switch.
We have certainly seen similar issues with cross gen games/next gen planned ports in the past.
I just finished Teal Mask today and... it's rough. The story is cool, but the performance is so incredibly poor. On 3 occasions I thought yep, it's frozen, with 3-4 second actual pauses because the Switch can't keep up. I love Pokémon, but do better Game Freak, please.
It’s hard to take companies seriously about “development costs are too high” when they’re making record profits, and also take no effort to reduce costs either. Clearly it’s not that big of a problem. Also, they don’t try to diversify with smaller projects. They’re focused on these large, high budget, 3-5 year projects. I know there’s some pressure to to push further with heavy new console, but it’s also a beast of their own making.
Good episode you two! 😁 Good luck to you both in Balder’s Gate 3 and Krysta, safe travels back home.
Here’s to October…or Shocktober being full of fun!
Wasn't there a bug in the Scarlet and Violet DLC that corrupt your save datas? Is it still present?
Finally gettng to this episode, but the Pokemon issues, which have been heavily discussed, are one of the reasons I've not even bothered finishing Scarlet/Violet (we actually have both in our household.) TPC has shown they don't care enough to give these games the time or support they need. I have only about 3 badges, 3 Giant Boss fights (what are they called again?) and 2 Team Star Raids done. So i'm not exactly sitting at the beginning, I put in around 20ish hours. I really found no need to wander the landscapes, because it was mostly boring or even ugly to look at. The battles are quite easy, and I even did the Gym battles out of order to try and do battles higher than my Pokemon levels for a challenge.
I respect them trying something new with the adventure, but the overall game runs and chugs along so often it pulls you out. When you can get Xenoblade 3, BotW, TotK, and even the Witcher 3 port looking like they do on the Switch, and running decently, you shouldn't have this mess of a game with simplistic graphics and style looking the way it does and running the way it does. I'm now very wary of even purchasing the next mainline game. I'd actually consider another game like Pokemon Legends Arceus before this if they could improve it. I think PLA was easier to play and even forgive some of the short comings, because it was different enough, and you could tell this game had less support than the upcoming mainline game or at least you figured that was the case.
Yeah. I just barely finished the game last weekend and I preordered Scarlet and Violet. I felt that PLA and LGPE were the best games that they released on the switch and didn't feel that interested in SV.
Thank you for bringing the issue up, guys. I don’t know what else can I say here, but, yeah, we really appreciate it. The state of the game, as well as the franchise, has never been worse.
Cyberpunk is still busted on PS4 and Xbox One, it’s only working well on PS5 and Xbox Series X. So I’d still consider that broken.
Agreed, a lot of customers (like me) bought the PS4 version & they’re forgotten about.
What you describe about Cyberpunk is a problem I fear other developers will take advantage as a strategy to maintain long attention on a game by releasing it bad on purpose and then promising to fix it later as it was intended to be in the first place... if that wasn't already a consideration before... why there is no point in releasing a game that is perfect...it is quickly forgotten.
I think the only down side of cdpr putting all that extra time into getting cyber punk right is that it took time from the witcher series. This is just how i feel about the situation personally but hey, its all good.
Ooh, I know im going to have a great time when that relaxing music starts and Krysta begins the video with her iconic "Today"!
5:58 lol, yeah the same problem here with their lack of connecting metro rails.
I haven't bought the DLC yet. I'm still hoping they'll fix scarlet and violet
Still waiting for RE1 to be ported to the Playdate for ultimate Crank immersion
You guys kinda characterize Cyberpunk as an "overcoming adversity" situation when really management flat out lied to the public, hid the console versions from reviewers, and mismanaged the launch. And even with that and the refunds they still recouped their development costs. So they failed up enough to have the luxury of spending 3 years treating the full release as a public beta. Pretty scummy behavior. It's a game I own and wanted badly, and am glad they fixed it. But I'm not exactly going out of my way to celebrate the achievement of facing no real permanent consequences for their actions beyond a couple figureheads stepping down and their stock dipping.
Exactly, they straight-up scammed their customers.
I guess they could mean “overcoming adversity” as in “taking the mess they had and making it into something acceptable/good”. But they don’t really deserve kudos for cleaning their mess, that’s the bare minimum. You’d have to do more than that to actually earn some adoration. Plus, from what I heard, the story paths were supposed to be meaningful have all sorts of effects on your campaign but in the final game it’s not at all impactful outside 1 or 2 scenes. And if that’s the case, no update is ever gonna fix that. You’d have to rework a lot of the game and add new voice lines and quests for free. The only 2.0 free stuff I’ve heard is just some mechanical changes to weapons, bug fixes, and a different skill tree. Doesn’t actually have meaningful branching paths. Maybe the DLC does (all I know is you can cut yourself off from finishing it) but that’s paid content. So they don’t get props for that if it’s done well in paid DLC but not in the main game where it was also supposed to be.
I thought Pokemon Legends Arceus was so refreshing and cool! I wish they would go down that direction, but I'm not sure since they made a lot of $$$ from Scarlet/Violet. I usually enjoy the Pokemon spin-offs more than the mainline games because the mainline games are repetitive. The last gen I played was Sun/Moon, and I liked the tropical theme. Alolan Pikachu is so cute. And Professor Kukui... 😳🥵
PLA sold 15 million. I'd be shocked if there weren't more games in that style in the future.
omg Kit missing the chances to recruit Lae'zel TWICE and moving onto act 3 without recruiting Halsin. Just powering THROUGH.
Just as a non-spoilery tip: There is a quest in Act 2 you must see through and complete for Halsin to join your party as a permanent companion. If you definitely moved onto Act 3 I'm afraid it won't happen now 🤔
I just make sure to explore 100% EVERYTING before moving on, I can't deal with the idea of missing a story companion, they have so many quest attached to them always 😭 Krysta PLEASE make sure to recruit Halsin whenever you reach Act 2. Show Bear Druid some love!
Regarding romance. Some companion characters are open to poly/open relationships, and some others aren't. Everyone has their preferences!
Can we discuss ARK: Survival Evolved? Originally a lackluster port, the new developer rebuilt the game from the ground up to run specifically on the Nintendo Switch. Not only did they give the game a free update, but they also released an upgrade to ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition.
Nintendo minute its never just a minute with kit and krysta. Great video as always guys. Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty much fixed but pokemon scarlet and violet are broken and i dont like saying that. Im a pokemon fan and i wish that werent so glitchly. But they are fun to play.
You guys met with the Game Freak developers right? What do you think of them and how they work on Pokémon? And as former employees at Nintendo, why do you think the communication was not as effective for the game?
Hopefully Kit's spouse/partner/other doesn't watch this and hear him say how love never goes the way he wants. 🤣
I would assume Pokemon makes more money without just the main line games. It is insane how Pokemon has expanded to other areas such as trading cards, mobile games, toys, and shows. There is a new TCG expansion every other month $$$
You can still get Halsin (the druid) in your party, you have to progress his story in act 2 first
Fine, I'll pay $100 for a triple A game, but it better be done when I boot it up instead of having to download a "Day One Patch" and "look forward to" upcoming performance fixes 🤷♀️
To be an old man for a minute, when I popped Conker into the 64, that was the game I got, good or not. Developers used to have to finish the games before they released.
I can't help but wonder part of the reason Pokémon S/V's issues got swept under the rug is that it's a game for kids. There was an outcry, sure, but most of the people affected didn't have a real way to express their concerns because they're kids. And most of the kids who had issues probably just gave up on the game and moved on to whatever the next thing their parents bought them was. Since Cyberpunk is for adults, a higher percentage of the player base was able to raise a vocal stink about the issues in the game, and they could be taken more seriously. What happened to S/V is so sad because they really are great games-just clearly not the quality they should be.
The thing is as good as Cyberpunk Is now it should have never released in the state it was in, for CD Projekts next game its gotta be in everyone's minds that when it releases it won't be good for another year or two, both Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk were buggy messes on release, you can't trust them to release a finished game.
Important question about the cyberpunk situation : are the PS4 and XBOX one version fixed now ?
So sorry to hear about your cat, Krysta! I enjoyed her little surprise guest appearances she occasionally made on the podcast.
Excited for some potential DND content!! :D
The DLC is really lacking
I finish the story too fast (it was a decent story but too fast)
I did the side quests, and beat all the traniers. I'm not doing that mini game, I'm not spending 1 million on an outfit, I only need to get 20 more pokemon to unlock the side quest for that blood moon pokemon and i'm done. Hopefully Part 2 will better.
Put about 120 hours in to Pokemon Violet so far and that's with part 1 of the DLC included.
I'm going to the Van Gogh museum in November for the Pokemon stuff. I'm hoping the crazy's have had there fill by then and I can just enjoy the event with my mom 😅.
I think they will fix it on wait till next gen. We had that leak where someone said they were working on patches as well. Considering nintendo acknowledged the performance, i think they will sorta have to fix it but they are just waiting. They could have just ignored it in typical fashion but chose to address it. Tho I guess the controversy was huge and compared to something like the national dex this was not subjective so they felt the need to
Tintagel Castle is a real castle, in Cornwall, England 😊
I Was unbelievably baffled that a pokemon game came out like this
kit omg 😂 i love krysta's more to be honest!! it's so calm and watched it multiple times in a row, i needed her calm vlog tbh! you did awesome krysta 🤩 so 1 - 0 for krysta haha!! (that did sound a bit mean kit hahah)
I think I read somewhere that gamefreak was burned out on Pokémon that there working on a fantasy game they showed of concept art of swordsmen in a mythical forest… they also did little town hero which I remember didn’t do well
I don’t know how you can think Shadowheart _isn’t_ pretty…
Krysta also hates Aerith so I don't trust her taste in women lol
@@ShallBePurified Just... how? It's been a bad week or two for Krysta fans, lol.
My friend played Cyberpunk when it came out and enjoyed it.
I got an advertisement to buy Pokemon during the Pokemon/Cyberpunk section - I don't think Pokemon marketing are reading the room... 😂
Pretty Litter ad as I empty mine. One problem with it though is if you have multiple cats. Which cat is it?
It doesn't matter if cd projekt red fixed the game. They took 3 years to do it.
You can't say that's ok.
While I appreciate the conversation, I feel the very nature of it is being misconstrued. Cyberpunk 2077's issues are that the game, on release, failed to deliver a fun game experience (shallow RPG mechanics, gameplay, and also misleading customers with features shown in marketing for years that did not exist in initial launch state) as well as a polished product (barring raw graphical fidelity if you were one of the lucky few with an RTX 3090 in 2020), whereas Pokemon Scarlet and Violet delivered a fun game experience (whose story, characters, and music were acclaimed for taking the franchise in a direction that improved over the past few generations of Pokemon, and in some cases superior to the most lauded games in the franchise, while implementing some features that directly improve from previous games) but not a polished product.
Cyberpunk is now a more polished game but fundamentally still a lackluster RPG that fails to meet the standard set by a game that came out 20 years ago with similar aims (Deus Ex). Scarlet and Violet has not yet got their major performance patch (and you are right to criticize their lack of communication on this regard, they have been radio silent for too long, and CDPR did do a better job communicating their change) barring a DLC content update, which is certainly not doing the games any favors. Though it is important to note, Cyberpunk's major performance update that fixed the lion's shares of the performance issues didn't come out for 15 months after the release of the game, and Scarlet and Violet have not yet been out for a year so it is not the most fair comparison here, even more so given Game Freak is 1/10th the size of CDPR.
The main factor that is at play here is goodwill in the eyes of the gamers, and CDPR quite simply has more of that than Game Freak at this point with the average gamer. Pokemon, after Sword and Shield, has had a downward trend in goodwill (in spite of rising sales) particularly in the gaming media side of things. CDPR accrued a lot of goodwill over the years that exploded with the success of the Witcher 3, that Cyberpunk's initial release certainly took a chunk out of. However, Cyberpunk Edgerunners did the most substantial work in restoring goodwill towards the Cyberpunk IP and thus inadvertently CDPR themselves, especially when they smartly capitalized on that success with the Edgerunners content update. Honestly, the best allocation of resources CDPR ever did to restore brand loyalty is funding Studio Trigger's work, they certainly bailed them out of disaster there.
broken, but absolutely amazing, I hate how people discourage me from playing it because of the performance issues, I DON’T CARE, and though I think the performance issues are sometimes bad, the game is really fun for me and I love it, I still joke about the performance issues but for the most part I don’t care
it’s a wonderful mess
I must be using a different definition of broken because I wouldn't even go that far. I have over 100 hours in Scarlet and the game has only crashed on me once. My only other issue was getting stuck behind a fence in Mesagoza before unlocking Koraidon, which required me to fast travel to a Pokémon center.
Having low production values is not the same thing as being broken. This is not even remotely the same situation as Cyberpunk 2077 on PS4.
The future of Pokemon is that they won't learn, games will still release in messy, buggy states, never get fixed, and break sales records anyways because they have their audience domesticated
27:29 OMG!! Hahaha Aww Kit we love you!
They just put out the 60fps patch for Redfall.
Did you experience a lot of the performance issues or are you judging the game based on what others said? I had one crash from trying to explore the world with friends. That's it. Otherwise, I had no issues with the game. I guess the battle camera could be weird at times but that's not really something I care about.
I agree. I thought it was perhaps the best pokemon game ever made considering the open world was so much better than past games. I'd rather get games faster with minor bugs rather than wait years.
You two must only play on switch cause if you didn't and actually got used to 60fps on almost everything nowadays is. You'd be like me where the game gives you a headache within 2 hours just from how jittery and unstable the picture is. It constantly bounces between 28 to 25 to 20fps... feel blessed that you dont notice these things and it doesn't bother you
@@AlphaladZXA I don't look into frames and will never learn about them. Some content creators always mention frames and get upset when the frames aren't to their liking.
I find it a bit nerdy and I'm not saying this about you. They'll say something like the game is only 40 frames or 50 frames(examples, might not be fully accurate) but the game looks and runs completely fine.
@sirmel11 yeah they do that cause, and this is rightfully so, they want what they are paying for. It's a bad value prospect for a 60 no 95$ game to be like this. It's just a larger bubble in the community that's finally burst within pokemon trying to raise a higher standard of quality out of the franchise. Everyone should be doing that it's probably why you would get attacked by harsh comments saying what you were on twitter... at least you are being respectful about it yourself 😄
I have played Pokemon games ever since the first one came out when I was 12. During the early 2000s when the GameCube was out, everyone would talk about how great Pokemon was, but dream of the day they could turn it into a full 3d open world adventure. It took 20 more years for them to finally realize that, but they did it (mostly). I agree they need to step up the performance issues, however they could have also never released the game and I didn't want that. It's progress.@@AlphaladZXA
I still have not purchased Pokémon as I vote with my wallet. I am still holding out on Cyberpunk 3.0.
I am still playing Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, I have probably around 600 hours in both combined. I somehow I have never encountered any crazy bugs that I have seen reported and I have played through the games at least 5 times now on my original Switch, OLED and Lite. The only issues I have encountered is the game froze once and the framerate tanks in specific areas and it happens regardless of the model of Switch, which is bothersome, but not so much that it takes away the enjoyment I have with the games. But it definitely should not have been released in that state though, much less with the issues that other people claimed to have experienced.
I also played Cyberpunk 2077 on my PS4 when it launched and I put in around 20 hours and the only bugs I experienced was dying for weird reasons twice, I was walking down a street and walked passed a pole and died instantly, I walked off like a electric box that was just a little taller than my character, died, and once a NPC for a mission didn't want to move. Nothing too crazy as I still enjoyed my time with the game.
But I am glad to hear they have done so much for it though.
Don't know if it's the case for SV, but I do recall that many people who complained about bugs in SS were found to be hacking the game so it was their own fault.
@@FirstEmperor It is possible, as I know I read comments from players claiming 'it's a mess' 'it's broken', etc and eventually admitting to playing it on PC and some outright saying they wouldn't buy it so they got pirated it and are having issues.
And if that the case, like you said, that is their own fault.
Myself I have even watched several playthroughs of the game and I didn't see any crazy bugs, the worst I seen was one guy had it crash like 5 times and had friends randomly kicked and himself kicked from a lobby while he was playing it with his 3 friends throughout like a 60 hour playthrough.
And I have talked to my cousin, a friends girlfriend and my niece who also played through the game, no bugs, just frame rate issues.
I guess to be fair though, the game sold over 20 million copies, so it is likely the vast majority of us aren't really having issues.. But even if 1% of that are experiencing crazy bugs, that is at least 200,000 people and if enough of them voicing their issues on every SV video they watch, it could make it seem like everyone is having issues with the game.
The Pokémon Company will need to step up to the improved Switch 2 hardware, or their games will stand out like a sore thumb.
As far as Cyberpunk goes, some "fans" don't care if the game is fixed. They have this stupid "first impression" mindset and act like they can't play the game anymore. Makes me wonder if it was worth updating it. I hope they were able to make a lot of money.
I'm generally on board with dlc for nintendo games. Got any and all xenoblade dlc instantly when announced, got the sword and shield dlc (some regret here too), maro kart dlc, fire emblem 3 houses dlc, the list goes on.
This new pokemon dlc is the first one that i will be skipping and i'm really sad that pokemon has become like this lately. I started with pokemon ruby and it's sad that pokemon has not kept up like we wanted it too.
Hope it gets better in the future, i would gladly wait 10+ years for a quality pokemon game. I've learned my lesson and i am not going to blindly buy pokemon games anymore until real change hopefully happens.
I've just given up on new Pokemon games ever since Sword and Shield. Glad I saved my money.
Sept 28 1998, Oct 15 2000, March 19 2003, April 22 2007, March 6 2011, Oct 12 2013, Nov 18 2016, Nov 15 2019, and Nov 18 2022. These are the release dates for all the main line Pokémon games in NA by generation. In the early days of Pokémon with the GameBoy and the pixel art, 2 to 3 years of development was sufficient. However now that Pokémon has gone 3D, that timeframe is no longer sufficient to put out something of high quality. I just hope they take their time with the next new game. I will not be buying the DLC for Scarlet and Violet.
A large portion of the bugginess with Pokemon was people emulating the game with software. The game itself was a little janky, I wouldn't call it broken. Cyberpunk was broken
When I visualize scarlet and violet, I think of how awful and stupid it is that Pokémon can’t make finished games. When I PLAY Scarlet and Violet, I get engrossed and usually have more fun than most other 3D Pokémon games have ever managed to provide. I hate they still haven’t fixed it, but I maintain my stance that these games RULE!!!
I wish I could agree as I enjoy the Pokemon series. But S&V is set on a giant, boring map and it's a graphically buggy game, frustratingly created by a major game studio that has the resources to do better.
@@jaysonwilliamson970 I completely get why the problems of this game were just too much for some people. I love Pokemon a lot and I dealt with it because it's Pokemon, and some people would probably get angry that I think that way. Way I see it, video games are made for fun. And I had fun. That's all I need to justify my purchase.
Pokémon will always be Pokémon. Not to say that they don't put effort into the new mons and mechanics, but it would be extremely hard for them to actually make a bad mainline game because the IP and the core formula are golden. That's part of why it's so disappointing they're releasing such unpolished messes.
@@jaysonwilliamson970 I read your comment and immediately thought of Skyrim lol
The Pokemon DLC isn't expensive. I feel like that's complaining about nothing. It's $30.
I still remember the days of the good Starwars Battlefront 2 that DLC was 5$. Now that is not expensive DLC... also it's 35$ when we came from the likes of sun and moon on 3ds for 40 and they look and run way better than the HD game and it's 95 in total for everything and it doesnt run well too that's a pretty poor content/value prospect
@@AlphaladZXA Scarlet and Violet has a good narrative and good characters.
I remember hearing a story about Mr. Iwata coming in to fix GameFreak's code at the last minute for Gen 2, so I've always been under the impression that they've never really been the best at programming. Of course, they could probably always hire new employees who are, rather than spending money on Post Malone concerts.
As for the DLC, it was fun, I love Ogerpon and some of the lore stuff was neat, but it was not worth 35 bucks, and I doubt the Indigo Disc will do enough to justify the price tag either.
What’s the extent of that first DLC? Is it just that one Japanese (I’m assuming mini) festival place? Probably won’t bother getting it, but curious what it entails. The Indigo Disc I imagine is all condensed to that one area.
Now that they’re doing DLC and not 3rd versions, I think they should add new “basic” Pokémon with them. Legendaries are neat, but I’m not exactly going to play the DLC campaign with them. Which you usually only get at the end anyway. So you’re just using the same team you already beat the game with which is kinda lame. And because it continues past finishing the game, everything (at least based off SwSh’s DLC) is high level. So if you wanted to grow a new team, too bad. You have to trade/evolve them to their final stage and then way past that just to be usable during the DLC.
@@mrshmuga9 Just the one, new open area. It doesn't take too long to explore. Besides that, the new dex is 200, though a big chunk of the entries carry over from your base Pokedex, five new Pokemon, and one new form, if I'm not forgetting anyone. There's a new minigame that's kind of a pain, and some new clothes and haircut options. It feels a little light.
@@ExploDjinn Thanks. I checked out some reviews too and it looks meh. Indigo Disk looks a bit more interesting with the terrain and likely more battles. But I don’t really care about returning Pokémon when it’s basically too late to make a new team, which makes exploring not all that worth it. And the new content like battles (or some gym equivalent) isn’t going to be worth more than half the cost of the base game. Sure, less than what they charged for 3rd versions, but I never paid or cared about those either, lol.
Detective Pikachu Returns came out to a dud.
Yeah Game Freak should probably put more time into their games.
They simply don’t care. Onto the next game.
Cyberpunk is still not that great. 😂
I think Pokemon should have never gone open world. It's not needed. I like having an order to do things. I don't like exploring just to explore. Stories get harder to tell when they're open world since they all have to be at a base level and escalate later on. I don't like that.
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Kit rushing through act 2 is RIP for ever getting Halsin lol. Someone should warn Krysta to don't do a Kit.
Krysta please get video of that Kirby room. She may have to pay rent for that lol
I'd suggest playing the Pokemon game if you guys didn't have an actual issues yet.
Pokemon has been broken and arcaic since pokemon X and Y. X and Y were objectivly downgrades from Black and White 2. I still buy and play every game and I expect subpar games. I just like collecting all of the pokemon so I dont even care about the game if the new pokemon are cool.
Yknow, I used to disagree with this big time, but I went back and replayed BW2 this year and WOW are those games good. Might be the best of the DS era. I still love X and Y but that in spite of their very numerous flaws, not the least of which the laughable “difficulty.” I also think the last 2 main series games, being Legends and SV, are probably the best 3D Pokémon games. But yeah for the most part the 3D ones aren’t great 😢
@@WhyYouWahYoo Legends is Good. Maybe I exagerated a little bit. The sentiment is what matters and I think a lot of pokemon fans agree.
Pokemon fans be like "Yeah the games suck but I continue to buy them anyways" lol
@@Christopher-md7tf Video games are made so that people can have fun. If they have fun with their game, regardless of "objective quality," that's all they need to justify their purchase.
@@WhyYouWahYoo Sure, but if people keep buying the games despite their low quality, there is zero incentive for the devs and publisher to make them better. I see this so often in the case of Pokemon where people will buy literally every single entry and then complain about the declining quality of the games and it's like, helloooo, you are part of the problem.
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I don't wish bad sales on them. That's too far.
Kit - wth buddy? Cant you just apologize to Krista when you stick foot in your mouth. The joke about ur vid is better than her’s did not land and anyone can see it in her face she took it a bit personal and was upset. Get it together & apologize.
Good job u guys, Pokémon is rather disgusting nowadays, i started in red and blue, and its really lost the plot. Thanks guys
I would love for you guys to get Joe Merrick on the podcast one day. Could make for some interesting discussions around pokemon. He's been living it for over 2 decades now running Serebii.
no incentive to fix a broken game when fans will buy it no matter what
I hope this whole Pokemon fiasco is the first step to putting a new company onto the main Pokemon games. Game Freak have run their course and there's no true passion in those games for many generations now. There's no innovation or evolution from the series and if there ever is, it's such little baby steps that it's hardly ever commendable.
But we all know it. They'll stay making these half baked games and the fans will buy them every time. They're sadly too big to fail. I'm sure the largest chunk of the fanbase doesn't watch gaming podcast or news and just buy the new ones because it's Pokemon. Just like sports gamers. It's the sad truth.
Concerned by the future of this franchise? *laughs in 10m games sold*
I will not be picking up the next Pokémon unless it performs well.
Easy, because Pokemon fans cannot stop buying bad games. So they continue selling them. The Pokemon company now is just the The POCKET💵💵💵💵 company they care more about selling Plushies and cards than games. They don’t respect fans!
I get what you’re saying, but I have never been a fan of blaming consumers for buying games they want. I understand the people who find it unacceptable, but taking that opinion and then invalidating the whole entire other group as “blind consumers” feels pretty arrogant to me. As far as their respect toward fans… yeah… that’s pretty true. Executives gonna executive.
@@WhyYouWahYoomoney talks, when fans stop buying their crap, things will Change. Look Zelda every game they sell less ( even when they all are excellent games) now look the sales. They change the formula they put money and effort and now Zelda sales are insane. As a fan I don’t buy the D&P remakes and I’m not gonna buy the DLC for S&V. Even legends feels like a demo of what a good pokemon game can be.
@@alexisxg totally a fair example. And I do, for the record, think that further showcases of poor quality/performance will effect sales long term. My struggle comes when people take that mentality to the extreme (which It's hard to tell if you do given only your comments) and blame consumers for the poor quality. That's silly. The point of games is to have fun, and if people buy a product they think will be fun, you shouldn't blame them for that, regardless of quality. End of the day, every industry has shlock and people who eat up the shlock knowing full well it isn't that great. Now, at least with other industries the poor-grade stuff is cheaper, and it is admittedly icky that unfinished games are just unabashedly sold for full price. Also, as a Pokémon fan my desire would never be for the franchise to become a low-grade offering on purpose... but still... It just doesn't sit well with me to go that far.
People act like glitches should ruin your game experience completely and I think that's insane. Scarlet and Violet might have some issues but those issues aren't worth low scores and not playing it at all. It has one of the best Pokemon stories out there.
Yeah, the story was surprisingly decent. It's also... wait for it... a fun game. People play games for fun. I legitimately don't get the immense hate. Yes, it was glitchy. Yes my game crashed once. But it was also one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played.
Some of us have actual standards and dont waste our money on half-finished, poorly designed garbage that has omly gotten worse over time. Glad you had fun with the game, but they were bad, full stop.
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We saw the warning signs with Sword and Shield when they cut down the amount of Pokémon coded in the game. Hardcore fans didn’t care anyway. The theory back then was that they lost the 3D model files that they had made for Sun/Moon and ran out of time to remake all of them.
regardless of reason Scarlet and Violet is the main reason why I plan to fix the mess once I work for Nintendo and the Pokemon Company.
Honestly truly disappointed at the coverage of the Pokemon games in this… no mention of the upcoming patch announced for this month on top of the leaker that gave all the details on the dlc before announcement that also said they were working on a full overhaul patch as well…
I haven’t gotten to that point in the podcast but… mention a patch is coming? Sure. But it doesn’t deserve anything more than a notice.
I don’t care what a leaker (even if they have a good track record) says, or heck even the company. When the game released, people said “don’t worry, a patch is probably coming” before GF announced anything. And when they did, overzealous fans would use that as an excuse to say “everything’s fine now” despite not knowing what the patch would be like. It was an automatic defence for the company. Then the patch released, and it didn’t actually fix everything like those fans implied and claimed it would. Now people are supposed to believe, “no, this time it’ll be good”?
These companies don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt when they willingly sold a busted product. It’s on _them_ to win people’s trust back. They’re the ones who broke it. And it takes a lot more than just “we fixed everything” to earn back trust. Fixing your mess isn’t worthy of praise, it’s the bare minimum of what’s expected.
This is why this nonsense continues, because people put up with it and yet continually trust them. There’s no actual break where you wait for them to prove that they’ll fix everything. Once they partially fix something it’s deemed as good enough and they continue to fully trust rather than wait for them to prove themselves. Plus, even if they did fix everything… it’ll be nearly/over a full year since the game released. That’s way too long to completely address problems, and if it did take that long to fix (I imagine it didn’t, but making the DLC pushed it back) then all the more reason to lambast them for releasing a game so far ahead before it was ready. I like the series, but people make every excuse in the book for it or complain and still buy the DLC anyway. All it does is show how far they can push people and still make money.
Yes because the patch will surely fix all performance issues 😴
Im glad other Nintendo series dont have to put up with this nonsense
I will never forget the transphobia of Cyberpunk. I can’t play this game. Pokemon on the other side tries to be nice and not toxic.