Catholics On Homosexuality: The Truth
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 09. 2021
- Does the Catholic Church hate gay people? Is the Catholic Church against homosexuality? What is Catholic teaching on homosexuality? In this video, we're going to take a look at these questions and dive into the truth about the Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality and why it has stayed steadfast amid the changing tides of our culture.
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Standing ovation for all the LGBTQ who are still willing to seek God through the Catholic Church. That demonstrates a great deal of grace. No one can earn Heaven and we're all on the way there together.
I really needed to read something like this right now, thank you for writing it, it actually helped me a lot. God Bless you.
@@peacecraft3449 Thanks you. Hugs and prayers!
Standing over the graves of those whom the church has driven into the arms of suicide with the unimaginable despair and pain it created in their lives and families.
@@Mabeylater293nobody can drive us anywhere⊠the church is following what it represents.. im a lesbian and here I am hearing this, we cant force everyone to just agree with what we might want⊠if thats the case, the guys ive rejected could accuse me of leading them into unaliving themselves.
@@Kavefenix9 "The church is following what it represents" ... but when does merely quoting Catechism at us start becoming walking with us and fellowshipping with us? I've done the whole thing where you go to Adoration every day as a gay person and cry your eyes out to God... So many in the Church think that's the end of the spiritual journey but it isn't. What they discount is what God tells you while you're actually doing that... You go there and say "Okay God, here I am... I'm gay... and this is all your followers think I should be doing and all I'm capable of doing so ...here I am... ... ... ... ..." And you pray and pray and pray and pray... And at the end of the day, you STILL feel unfulfilled and unloved. Because you are ALONE. And God did not make us to be ALONE.
In fact, when I "give myself to God" (like so many people say I should), and go pray alone in the Church and whatnot... all I feel God telling me to do is "FORGET WHAT MY FOLLOWERS TOLD YOU... YOU ARE MORE THAN JUST A PRAYING MACHINE... I MADE YOU A HUMAN BEING, NOT AN ANGEL... GO BE WITH OTHER WARM-BLOODED HUMAN BEINGS GIVING THEM MY LOVE." And I say, "Lord, but your followers and priests say gay people can't X-Y-Z..." And God says, "DID THEY MAKE YOU? NO. I DID. LISTEN TO ME. GO GIVE AND SHOW LOVE TO A HUMAN BEING AND DON'T COME BACK TO ADORATION TO CRY UNTIL YOU DO."
So let's look at the score. ... God: 1... Ignorant Speakers Selling Books and Courses for God: 0.
It's almost like God knows more about the true human-to-human intimacy that gay people want and need than other humans in His Church do. It boggles my mind how ignorant His followers often are to what being human is all about. "Go pray" ... but never "Go LOVE." So strange to me.. ...
Love: âdoing good for one another without expecting anything in returnâ. This definition I learned in high school and still holds in my heart to this day.
This is Hinduism, not a definition of any Christian teaching.
Wants more information about what you've written in Hinduism? It's called "Nishkaamakarma" in Sanskrit! It's a high principle in Hinduism! đĄ
@@pavanmusb1983 this is a Christian teaching, it's one of the theological virtues:)
@@pavanmusb1983 God Created us, we sinned (lying, stealing, adultery, and hate) and deserve hell because God punishes sin. But God, in his love sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins and whoever turns from sin and believes in Jesus will not perish but have life after death.
Thank you Chris for all you do. I am a 20 old woman who has experienced same sex attraction and the struggle with gender identity pretty much all my life, beginning at a specific childhood trauma and snowballing from there. I really hope and pray that this apparent faith revival among my generation (Z) will reach more of those of us who experience SSA as Godâs grace did for me. My former friends and my ex-girlfriend are in a lot of pain and despair without the Truth. It seems that just as many peers find Jesus, more and more are getting involved with New Age spiritualism or Wicca and starting to identify as LGBT & dive into the lifestyle. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Praying for God's grace to you, sister.
Jesus loves you! Thank you for sharing. We are all struggling in today's culture
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for sharing this and being so honest. God loves you so much and He sees that you are struggling. He can feel the pain you are experiencing and He knows you are striving to be closer to Him. He is always going to be there, waiting to welcome you into His arms. I will say a prayer for you and so that God will guide you to Him and give you the graces you need to do His will in your life. God bless you and Our Lady Protect you!
Amen. đđđđđ
You have such a gift to make him difficult subjects easy to understand.
If you replace those difficult concept with different concepts the explanation can become simpler but also less helpful.
As an ex addicted to SSA, healed through the Lordâs Grace, I thank you for this video!
Are you gay now??
truth will heal you
If you are gay or transgender and know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
â@@dan69052Thankyou â€
Congrats brother. God bless.
â@@dan69052 So yes, you may be a 100% right, that (often?) your sexual desires are quite predetermined in you mother's body - but it is a scientific fact as well, that prenatal trauma is possible. Biblically you could call this hereditary debt. That's one of the big reasons, why WE ALL NEED HIS RELIEF. Thrust in HIS LOVE, the ALMIGHTY HEALER, the REDEEMER! May HE, JESUS the LORD be with you.
I love your videos, and I look forward to hearing a lot more from the Theology of the Body Institute. Thank you, Mr. West, and thank you, Jesus!
I find it very important to explain very well this teaching of the Church. For many, it is a source of conflict and it is not easy to understand the Church teaching. We must build bridges without compromising Jesus' teaching. Keep it up Christopher!!!
and Jesus hates homophobia
There is no condemnation of homosexuality in scripture, that is a misinterpretation.
@@dominicklopez7874
A computer is unnatural, so what?
Jesus hates bigotry and reverse discrimination.
@@dominicklopez7874
It's not a fallacy darling, you used an ambiguous word on purpose because it sounded more reasonable than what it really meant which is that it's bad because you don't like it.
If you don't like being called on it don't make bogus claims.
Christopher, thank you for tackling this sensitive topic with such assurance. A Franciscan friar priest recommended your channel. I've been watching your channel for a while now. :)
So what youâre saying is, LGBTQ people are welcome to come to church , welcome to put money in as an offering, but not welcome to receive the communion, not welcome to participate in just about anything. You are saying as we are we are not welcome. To be labeled as intrinsically evil speaks volumes. Well sir if I am intrinsically evil, then out of love I will not desecrate your Holy place. I will worship at home. I would rather be alone with Jesus at my house than alone in a crowded church building. Just say it, weâre not welcome.
Thank you for this, for these videos.
It is amazing to be able to listen to something so clear and beautifully said.
for clarity read this
If you are gay or transgender and know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
Go comment/troll (take a proverbial s..t) somewhere else. I think you took everything he said out of context. You sound like an LGBT supporter, and you sound like maybe you are an atheist as well. Unless you are willing to follow God's plan for your life (and it doesn't sound like you are), then this channel isn't for you. Go somewhere else with your rhetoric.
Thank you, Christopher, for being obedient to the Lord's calling in speaking the Gospel regarding our sexuality.
yes homophobia is the real sin
â@@pastorbri Thank you! You are a human, who stands up for others on his best beliefs.
Homophobia, as well as homosexuality, as well as condemning others from homophobia while not understanding them are far from enlightment, I would say. But what is enlightment? How do you reach it? And where from should anybody know, what it can all do?! Thrust in God! He heals every day, even from illness, that otherwise would have been the death sentence. You know what doctors write to their documents then? Spontaneous healing. But those cases are not applicable for science. Cause science always needs repeatability. So, no wonders in science. So, by principle, science is simply not able to cope with wonders.
Iâm a gay man and a non catholic and my biggest question is how would following Catholic teaching on sexuality be beneficial to my life? I lived a celibate life as a Christian for over ten years and it did not improve my life at all, it just made me miserable and lonely. How would doing the same thing in the context of a church that seems pretty hostile to us be any better?
We're saddened that that has been your experience in the church. Know that we truly believe the Church is a place where everybody is welcome. If you'd a thorough answer to your question, Christopher has a best selling book where he goes deep into it. You can find it here: shop.corproject.com/products/good-news-about-sex-and-marriage
@@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute the church that I was a part of wasnât the problem, living a disingenuous life of celibacy pretending I was something that I wasnât was the problem. It was a recipe for misery.
@@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute also, the question I posed was pretty much the most basic question an LGBT person could ask and you guys responded with a suggestion that I buy your book?! This is why legions of young people are leaving your church.
I was surprised that you were not given a better response than the suggestion to buy a book. I have several gay friends who tried so hard to be straight because they said that actually their lives would be easier, but they explained that it is not something you can change because they too feel as if they were always gay. I do appreciate the explanation in this video and it makes sense in line with the original plan. However unless someone is gay, can we really appreciate how difficult it must be to have this asked of them? I know plenty of people of god who constantly sin. I know the video says we all struggle, but l do feel that feeling you are gay and trying to transform those feelings is too much to ask of someone and expect them to be able to live happily. I just think unless someone is in your shoes, how can they really know how real the struggle is. How are you doing now anyway? By the way, I am not catholic or anything really at the moment. Just exploring and learning. @@levkamenev3904
@@missfunk5 yeah lol, this channel trying to sell me a book doesnât do anything to help dispel the commonly held belief that the Catholic Church is mostly just about money.
I have a question. Isnât sexual attraction as natural by design as reproduction? So unless Iâm mistaken in my assumption that homosexuality is a biological wiring and not a choice, how can you call it a human flaw?
Iâve had the same question for so long, and I have yet to receive an answer.
Not a human flaw, but simply a lust, an addiction, like drugs , like alcohol
@@ctfh1236 The problem with that comparison is that it works absolutely nothing like an addiction. In fact it works exactly the same as heterosexual attraction, but merely with a different sex.
It would be incredibly unlikely so many people would form an addiction without a pre-existing biological drive to it. After all, gambling addictions would not occur if it did not produce crazy amounts of dopamine. Similar with drugs altering brain chemistry. So calling it âan addictionâ is not sufficient to answer the question as to why the drive exists in the first place.
@@ctfh1236 thats not how love works.. maybe trauma
Bonding but not love
@@ctfh1236
Lust is not like drugs, lust is naturally occurring,
It's healthy and normal
Dear LGBTQIA+ watching this video and reading this comment: You are okay and you donât have to change anything about yourself. Please reach out to a queer friendly church or helpline with your questions or concerns. You are loved and you are blessed. đłïžâđâ€
right on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Maybe they want to be reborn and follow the teachings of the holy mother church
@@dakotahmays1437 I can tell by your response; you didnât read the book. Nor understood or comprehend what I wrote. Thank you however. You helped me realized that while I was brought up as a Catholic with 12 years of educational indoctrination, I know I made the right decision to leave any religious affiliation I had. While I am not gay, I accept those who are. I embraced reason, logic, acceptance, & love to understand the world & humanity. I no longer feel compelled to judge or condemn others especially when it is based the ignorance & hate found in religions. Thank you for showing me I made the right decision to leave. Peace & again thank you very much.
@@dan69052 Do you just copy and paste a response everywhere? You look like a robot. Also that book is probably bs
Amen brother!! Iâve been watching your videos and reading your books for years! You were pivotal in my conversion to the Catholic Church! Please keep going brother! đđ»
I have same sex attraction, because of the pandemic I've fallen more deeply into porn addiction, yes gay porn addiction. Please pray for me.
Will pray for you, Carlos. I also encourage you to follow Matt Fradd videos, his ministry is working to help people with their porn addictions if I'm not mistaken. God bless you.
Thank you for sharing, I will pray for u âïž Just remember Jesus still loves you and confession is a very amazing place and sacrament and remember to never be ashamed to confess it
Praying for you, brother
Do need prayer or more likely truth & knowledge ????If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
1. Does this mean gay people have to seek marriage with an opposite sex person they're not attracted to in order to "go back to the beginning?"
2. Does this mean that gay people need to seek to become "attracted" to the opposite sex via some means in order to "go back to the beginning?"
3. Does this mean gay people need to stop loving and caring about each other and only love and care about opposite sex people in order to "go back to the beginning?"
4. Does this mean that gay people who can't do the above 3 things are incapable of having their sexual nature "renewed in Christ"?
Please answer.
this guy along with many others have their preconceived ideology and try to force everything into it in spite of the obvious contradictions you indicate.
the idea that secs is SOLELY for reproduction is never mentioned in scripture. in its infancy, the church became suspicious of it and decided to affirm it only for the obvious consequences if people didn't reproduce.
furthermore, genesis 2 explains the reasons for marriage: companionship "not good to be alone", mutual support "helper", familial relationship "bone of my bone" and intimacy "one flesh". reproduction is notably absent. identical reasons are experienced by people with minority orientations.
gen 2 also gives a condition for marriage. the man saw the woman and recognized her as a suitable helper, and "therefore" they get married. now if a man is unable to recognize a woman as suitable but only another man, then for the precise same reason as in the text, he SHOULD marry the man (equivalently for a woman).
after all, there is nothing in the story to suggest two men/women would be wrong, marrying against his orientation fails to meet the stated condition and in practice doesn't work, and staying single if he experiences the need for companionship contradicts God who said "it's not good".
I canât do those 3 things. Does that mean I canât be Catholic ?
Hello, I think Christopher will cover your topic and provide a reply in upcoming videos. Here is a preview: You are referring to celibacy. Firstable, we are all called to be chase: to use our sexuality properly and within the context of our single or married life. Secondly, some people are called to be celibate (no sexual relationships). And that is ok. We can all live without engaging in sexual activities and God will provide the strength if called to be celibate. You do not need to become a priest or nun as a means to make sense of celibacy. The ordained people have a special calling from God. But, if you are being called by God to be celibate and not ordained, then, I invite you to look into the consecrated life. Your vocation is a great inspiration for us who struggle in marriage life because monogamy and custody of the eyes are hard to do. Please pray for me.
@@RaulRamirez-nx5sb I often hear the expression (and the USCCB uses this expression as well), that single people are to "live their sexuality with Godly joy." But what joy can be had in something you basically can't have? I'm really trying to understand this. How does one "live" something that you're supposed to shy away from and avoid? It's like saying "we want you to go enjoy the beautiful beach, it's beautiful and it's a gift of God for you to glory Him in... but just don't go to the beach, don't go near the beach, don't look at it, and don't think about it at all, ever, under any circumstances. Act as though the beach doesn't exist, and don't glory God in it..." Either you want us to enjoy the beach or not. It's a contradiction I'm struggling to understand. I want to understand it. I want to be able to glory God, but what is it I'm glorying him for if it's something bad?
@@markcharron Friend, rejoicing in your sexuality does not necessarily mean to engage physically in sexual acts. The fact that you are able to admire the human body because of its beauty and perfectness, is sexy. Being attracted to some one's hair, eyes, neck or other features ( other than male/female sole features) is sexy. Standing in awe when looking at couples dancing cha cha, figure skating, or singing as a duet is sexy. Watching old married couples just holding hands or sharing a hug is sexy. Do not be afraid to embrace your sexuality, please do not equate it with lust or as a recreational activity. Read more about Theology of the Body: it will show you that your body is sacred and destined for greatness.
Thank you for doing God's work and spreading the Truth that alone can make us happy.
but ya knew homophobia was the real sin?
@@pastorbri No. The Catholic Church condemns the practice of Sodoma.
Like other Christians you fail to explain why itâs bad, just cause you claim god created man and woman that doesnât mean it is wrong to love the same gender.
Thank you for your comment! If you'd be open to a deeper explanation of the topic and the reasoning behind it, Christopher has a best selling book where he goes deep into these issues. You can find it here: shop.corproject.com/products/good-news-about-sex-and-marriage
@@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute
Wow, this so hack.
Why would anyone buy a book when the public statements aren't any good.
That's like voting for a politician when you didn't like any of their campaign statements.
true If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Thank You Christopher. Brilliantly and Clearly explained. GOD Bless You and Everyone. We need to Shout the Truth from the Rooftops, like
St Paul among others. Hallelujah, PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. đđđâšâšâšđ
I did a LIFE IN THE SPIRIT seminar which was run by obsessive compulsive Catholics! And on the last night they invited a guy caleed Aiden Bond who had the "gift" of knowing peoples gifts.
When he prayed over me he shouted out my gifts and said I have a calling to Youth Ministry!!!!!.......which is total bull!!! I feel NO CALLING to that.
Then I was invited to a "singles night" so I might meet a lovely girl!!!!!
Wonder how inthusiastic they would be about any of these things if they knew I was GAY!!!!
Been there...
truth read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
"if God made man in his image" then God is gay because Gay men exist
Thank you for sharing your perspective. If you'd be open to a deeper explanation of the topic and the reasoning behind it, Christopher has a best selling book where he goes deep into these issues. You can find it here: shop.corproject.com/products/good-news-about-sex-and-marriage
Well, I'd say that God is Queer.
God doesn't necessarily line up with human gender.
If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@@dan69052 I'm not worried about me. I'm just pointing out how twisted religions can be.
The Bible nowhere addresses same-sex marriage.
There are seven texts often cited by Christians to condemn homosexuality: Noah and Ham (Genesis 9:20-27), Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:1-11), Levitical laws condemning same-sex relationships (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13), two words in two Second Testament vice lists (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:10), and Paul's letter to the Romans (Romans 1:26-27). These do not refer to homosexual relationships between two free, adult, and loving individuals. They describe rape or attempted rape (Genesis 9:20-27, 19:1-11), cultic prostitution (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13), male prostitution and pederasty (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:10), and the Isis cult in Rome (Romans 1:26-27). If the biblical authors did assume homosexuality was evil, we do not theologize off of their cultural assumptions, we theologize off of the texts we have in the canon.
A excellent book If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
There's this moment in the bible, Satan says to Adam and Eve, Did God really say...
You are referring to conversion therapy. As a gay Catholic, I highly disagree AND disapprove of this interpretation. And Iâm particularly insulted by being referred to as âbrokenâ. Youâre referring to homosexuality as a sickness that needs to be eradicated through Godâs grace. NO!
you were never broke If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
To active church members I kindly ask you to defund hate by defunding religion. Stop tithing. Many have quietly made this decision and itâs the loudest voice the church is hearing. Defund hate today. I have and itâs one of the most meaningful and rewarding decisions I have made in support of my gay brothersâ and sistersâ happiness and fulfillment. Thank you.
I have very little to tithe, but I only tithe to churches that I trust, I've been attending a Catholic church for the past year and unornately I don't trust it.
So my 10% goes to organizations that I trust or to my own charity.
When asked about their stand on the matter of homosexuality, a Catholic Monsignor said: "If we invoked that law, we wouldn't have any priests left." Wow
Proof the catholic church created the problem of homosexuality by forcing presits and nuns never too marry this is why homosexuals exist.
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They created their own priest shortage sure. But Queer people existed before the Catholic church, they'll likely exist after it.
What finally won me over to the truth of theology of the body was trying it my way. I got burned badly. Jesus take my broken nature and make it new!
Your body is not broken If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
The Catholic Church doesn't "hate" gay people, it simply says there are rules, laws, to belong to the Church you must follow them.
Right on mark here , but read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
so am i supposed to reprpgramme myself to be attracted to women? isnt that conversion therapy that we ban here? lol i dont know but this feels a little wrong for me.. im not sure how i feel about it. id like to know what youre actually proposing and what plan i should have to not be gay anymore? lol
Thank you for your comment! If you'd like a nuanced explanation, Christopher has a best selling book where he has a whole chapter where he goes deep into same sex attraction. You can find it here: shop.corproject.com/products/good-news-about-sex-and-marriage or you can also watch this free playlist where he walks you through the book: czcams.com/play/PLAbqXQaOvkM4Q01szl54g7Sj9mJ8bfKf0.html&si=zZG7qYfniz9J_KKB
why do you need to change ???If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Thank you for this explanation!
another explanation If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Thank you for these teaching. I was raised Catholic, baptized,and confirmed. I found out i has gay. Ive tried everything to not be that way and would go to church everyday for a week to."pray the gay away" nothing worked. Oh dear God i tried. So, after all that mental trauma. Ive concluded that God really does make use this way, and i even found facts in nature that have the same sex attraction. Why would God do this? I asked myself. Why me whats my purpose? I say this to everyone who is struggling. Embrace who you are. I living example that God made you the way he did. Even after all of the teachings. God also wants you not to suffer, and if you suffer you will have malice intent. So, dont go seeking for heterosexual love eternity that will never happen. However, i do think sexuality is actually a spectrum, rather than a straight line. I believe God put us here to remind people what Love is and keep the truth and the love together.Moreover, opposite sexual partners seem to forget " truth and love". I believe we are here to make the world a better place, from it malice and devilious doings.
All i say it, dont pay that much attention to the bible, but rather the church, because the bible is a contradiction and unreliable. However, some of it is true, i believe some of it was written by harmful human.
As long as you follow the commandments im sure you can live your greatest life.
teaching of truth
If you are gay or transgender and know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@@dan69052 A natural path of our evolution? If so, what is the telos: the aim, end goal, and purpose of it? The same can be asked about Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). It's estimated that genetic factors contribute 40-80% of ASD risk, besides other factors such as parental age and birth complications. Can you think of a universal purpose or goal (final cause)? Anyway, the development of the fetus is about nine months, during which time various biological, physiological, and psychological predeterminants may accidentally take root - and not by intentional design, whether it be from God or, for the atheist, the mind of mother nature, at the point of conception. So, what Dr. Levay proposes only confirms what has been revealed to us by God in Scripture through His Church that we live in an imperfect and fallen world in urgent need of restoration. It isn't a sin or immoral to be homosexual, but the sin does lie in engaging in homosexual acts and, of course, in being proud of it. There is no purpose for it other than gratifying one's own disordered passions and desires. Homosexual unions are not pro-life but sterile. Perhaps, we shouldn't treat children or find a cure for them to be rid of ASD, since their disability is naturally preconditioned before birth and is no fault of their own. It's thus okay to be autistic; so accept who you are and be proud of it. This is the message PM Justin Trudeau is sending to children who are suffering from gender dysphoria. His corrupt government recently passed Bill C-14 that in part has criminalized all forms of gender dysphoria therapy in medical practice. Science says there are two genders or sexes: Male and Female. But, religion infallibly said it first. It's in the Bible. The non-binary spectrum is the product of human imagination and rationalization which also reveals itself to be in a defective state.
@@dan69052 Sexual orientation is not determined by fetus development at all, if it is then its a mutation and not supposed to happen.
@@Justin-si5po I can tell you did not read the book
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There is no evidence for your claims.
Many species rely on non-reproductive members.
Most bees do not reproduce and could not without compromising the health of the hive.
Mammals like meerkats have non-reproductive members.
In many social species orphans are taken in by same sex pairs.
Reproduction is not genetically necessary, and more importantly it is not morally necessary.
Christ had no children, neither do most modern priests.
I would be interested to know how you feel about Timothy Gordon, Rules for Retrogrades on CZcams, and his hateful speech, calling people âfreaksâ and such and claiming to be a Traditional Catholic.
Are you saying that God made heterosexuals and enforced celibates? Men and women can make children but they are not obliged to. Not making children cannot be a sin or else all priests and other celibates would be doomed.
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Beware of false prophets and the Catholic Church , Jesus Christ shed his blood for us all, youâre not saved any other way . Jesus died for everyone including homosexuals, just go to him and talk , heâs your Heavenly Father, your only father like the Bible says . You can trust the lord Jesus and I pray you will, God bless
he died for homophobics too if they wanted to repent.
I've been diving into the latest science about how gender works. Unfortunately, biologically it's not as simple as male and female. A lot of things can go awry during pregnancy, especially the amount and type of hormones the fetus is exposed to. Then you have people who are born Intersex. Intersex is a group of conditions in which there is a discrepancy between the external genitals and the internal genitals (the testes and ovaries). The older term for this condition is hermaphroditism. For many years (before DNA testing), most doctors wouldn't tell the parents that their newborn had unclear genitals. They just arbitrarily decided which genitals would be most useful and attractive and surgically made the newborn that gender. What do you say to that person (now an adult) who has ovaries and uterus, but who was surgically given male genitalia? That's just scratching the surface.
Great presentation !!!! read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
real truth
If you are gay or transgender and know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
Could you touch on the MGTOW movement from the theology of the body perspective? They abstain from relationships because of the purported raw deal mean have when it comes to dating and marriage, for instance the biased family court system and a likelihood to be trapped in alimony and separated from their children after a divorce. Iâm not talking about those in the movement who generalize ALL women as entitled/manipulative/hypergamous man haters.
Yes, I'd love to hear a response to this as well.
a good book If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
I donât have time to read a book like that.
Letâs say I accept that homosexuality is determined in the womb, which is to say the person didnât choose their attraction. So what, the Catholic faith doesnât purport to say the person themselves is an abomination for something they didnât choose; in this way they are morally no different from people born with a mental disorder. However it is the homosexual act itself which is by definition unnatural and disordered, since it fails to respect the proper order of sex. A penis is ordered toward delivering sperm, and sperm is ordered toward fertilizing an egg for reproduction. To be a bit graphic, whatever homosexual partners engage in, I hesitate to call it sex since it is really just genital stimulation, using the anus/mouth/hand/etc to simulate what a femaleâs vagina feels like. Itâs an abuse of the gift of sex.
I do think at least some same-sex attracted people are that way through trauma in childhood, such as being sexually abused, having abusive parents, lacking a parent in the home, missing out on building friendship with their peers, and sometimes outright grooming or social media influence. I think Jason Evert has a story about one SSA manâs testimony where he realized he wasnât homo-sexual but homo-emotional because he lacked the masculine love his father never gave him as a child.
Nevertheless, science cannot touch on a matter of whatâs sin or not. Again, the sin is in the action, not the attraction. The solution is the virtue of chastity, recognizing and willing the proper order of sex as it was given to us.
@@killianmiller6107 you really really ned abook like that. Peace
@@killianmiller6107 I don't think the trauma/parents/grooming theories have any empirical support. Genetics is a major but not the only contributor, possibly mother's hormones in the womb, apart from that it's unknown. Culture and upbringing can affect behaviour but not underlying orientation.
Regardless of cause, a human being does not choose who they're attracted to. But most people have needs - God himself said "it is not good for the human being to be alone" - that they can only meet through one with whom they share mutual attraction. Preventing people from satisfying God-given needs puts you at odds with God himself, not a good idea.
To argue because secs is for reproduction then it must always be reproductive is a ludicrous medieval invention that is neither in scripture nor stands the slightest scrutiny. Men and women regularly enjoy and benefit from non-reproductive secs. So do men with men and women with women.
You can't unilaterally change the meaning of a word just because it doesn't fit your preferred ideology and demand everyone go along with it. If you want to call it something else, invent a term (FYI a term already exists, so-do-my), then get agreement from the majority of human beings on the planet.
PS I would not listen to selibate unmarried clerics on a topic that neither concerns them nor of which they have any experience to know what they're talking about.
This was a well articulated video about a sensitive issue and I hope Everyone is helped and brought healing..in All different ways.
We pray everyone is helped, too!
This is well-articulated to make up for the fact that it makes no sense.
It's held together with assumptions.
Jesus said nothing about Gay, Homosexual , same sex. He did speak of judging others many times
But Jesus is God, and Jesus said to keep God's commandments so the old testament and it's many references to homosexuality still apply today. Just because our generation doesn't want to obey doesn't mean God has changed.
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The New Testament speaks on the invalidity of the old law many times.
You eat shellfish and trim your hair.
Level your accusations at yourself.
@La Hair
Nowhere in the Old Testament did God condemn homosexuality.
â@@E.V.-ilobeying God is hard for you. Sounds like you're a sinner. You're in good company.
Speak for yourself.
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There are those that have been given the gift to heal, to teach,to preach to evangelize to pray, and to give monetary! And not all are like in those categories. You have been given a gift to teach in such a way that it captures someoneâs attention and keeps them attentive! made a good Lord continue to bless and keep you and all that come in contact with you!!!
This man is speaking out of turn, he's regurgitating his own ideas, not giving accurate information.
No organization has the right to define anyone's sexuallity nor what they do with other consenting adults. I was a Christian for 27 years I got married to a woman like a good Christian boy and had kids. My church tricked me into thinking God made me straight. My whole life has been turmoil because of the church and their interpretation of god. I'm not broken because of my sexual orientation, I'm broken because of what straight Christian men made me believe. No gay lifestyle could have caused me more pain than what the church caused me. I will never let a church or a book (that also says to stone women who get r@ped but don't scream for help) tell me how to live my life. Hell doesn't scare me because I've been there, it's called being gay and in the church. So whoever is watching this, especially those who are young and impressionable and not straight. Please be yourself, you only have one life don't let a fairytale destroy it like it did to me. All that being said, I'd return to the church in a minute if they accepted who I am both sexuallity and choice of who I love.
It takes some doing, but there are some Queer-affirming congregations out there.
I've even found some all-Queer church groups.
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If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
How would you act upon a person being neither male or female?
No such thing exists.
But with any mental disorder, you treat it with care and effectiveness.
Everyone needs God in their lives. Everyone. No goodness can come upon you without Him.
@@T...P... All sorts of variations exist. People who are neither, people who are a mixture of both, people who are physically one but psychologically the other or neither, people who are one or the other but have no interest in romance. Nature is full of diversity. It's even in the Bible Mat 19.12, 1 Cor 7.7.
@@MusicalRaichu You couldn't be more wrong. A person is either male or female. That's how it's put at Gen. 1:27, which says: "God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them." Did you get that. Male and female with nothing in between.
@@cbooth151 That's ridiculous. God making us male and female is adequate as a generalization, but it doesn't say there's no variation. Clearly there is, as it has been observed.
God made life on this planet rich in diversity. That's a key aspect of evolution that enabled human life to develop. You wouldn't be here if those kinds of variations didn't exist.
The Jews, you know, the people who wrote the Bible you just quoted, they recognized five genders.
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@@MusicalRaichu God indeed made a rich diversity of life on earth. But, even with the variety of lifeforms, he also made them male and female just as he did with humans. That is not a generalization. It's just how things are, and no CZcams video will change that. Evolution is foolishness. God created everything according to its own kind, including humans.
Five genders, you say? Uh, no. Just male and female. (Gen. 1:27)
This isn't very helpful. I had quite a few gay friends when I was in my 20s, and they were genuinely disgusted by lady bits. So let's say that hypothetically, I manage to convince one of them that his lifestyle is wrong. Is he just going to magically find women attractive if he accepts Christ? Would his revulsion suddenly go away if he were to convert? If not, what is he supposed to do, remain celibate? He's not going to want to have physical relations with someone if he's grossed out by them.
It is tough. But there's more than personal feelings on the line. Sure someone can say: "well that just is not doable for me" but then he or she would be rejecting God's Commands. There is a lifetime of struggle for a lot of people on earthly-life-time. But is an eternity separated from God worth satisfying your desires for a limited time?
â@@T...P... Firstly, being a sinner does not make us a bad person, unless the sin is a crime, but rather it makes us imperfect. Thus, to be non-sinning and perfect is nice to seek but nearly impossible. Since God loves everyone and gives entrance to heaven regardless of sin, if a gay person is unhappy or unfulfilled being celibate then don't. Have sex and preserve your mental health. God knows most sinners are good people and that most people are sinners. Most straight sex is sin too because the only sinless sex is when we wish to procreate so it is not an issue of homosexuality. Loving someone of the same sex is not a sin. But straight sex for pleasure and gay sex are sinful but who cares because unless you have the mindset of a monk, we will all sin sexually. Acknowledge our sins and genuinely ask God for forgiveness and we are on the right path.
@@Steve76777 No. Sin absolutely makes us bad people. Your comment saddens me because that distorted way of thinking leads so many astray. Sin detaches us from God, and that's why we all deserve hell. I pray you will come to know and follow God's Will.
I would also add that God alone is good. And there is no such thing as a good person.
knowledge If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
It's not helpful, it's a vain attempt to sugar-coat an intolerable traditional belief. The idea that secs is solely for reproduction was invented by the church a long time ago and they can't admit it was an error without compromising their authority.
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Why can infertile Catholics marry if being fruitful is a prerequisite? If their fruits are charity, etc why isnât that acceptable for a homosexual union ?
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Because "fruitfulness" is a distraction, people are just uncomfortable with Queer people, so they seek a rational explanation for their irrational feelings.
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
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Just dont eat the apple, as good as it may look.
If Jesus is God who created and made Adam where is Mary woman without man GOD created and made
Thank you so much. Iâve always been attracted to the same sex but Iâve always felt ashamed, and scared because it was looked down on in church.
I understand your situation intimately, but it is not the church whose opinions we ought to care about.
Churches are filled with fallible humans, we ought to focus more on a Loving God.
look up no need for shame If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
There are some questions that I think are being forgotten. For centuries, marriage was not forcefully a question of love. People had to marry unless they went to religious life. We can see that in many european palaces and museum houses where famous people lived: husband and wife rooms were 2 and separated. People were conscient that no affection could be forced. If love happened, perfect. If not, there would be at least a marriage. Many of these questions will remain forever as in the 1960's ideas about sex made it separated from its function to be cultivated most of the times as a simple pleasure. It was just a question of time so that gay people started to reclaim for them the same right. In fact, why wouldn't that happen? Second: we should not forget that these movements of sexual liberation, among others, may have other less obvious political aims. What made many world leaders suddenly so concerned about sex liberation? Hmmmm... I have serious doubts.
If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
i simply donât understand why all these labels need to exist, when i was a part of that community all it did was brought me was despair and confusion. i think we would be making better progress if we went back to the basics and actually talked to one another instead of hiding behind these labels.
Which labels do you mean?
good idea !!! read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Catechism, Catholic Chuch Doctine#2359= Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection. - The Sixth Commandment, CCC 2359
Well it's a good thing that I don't consider the Catechism authoratative.
And Great Honour to MOTHER MARY & SAINT JOSEPH too. â€ïžđ
who all would hate homophobia
@@pastorbri And they would also not support the idea to never turn from your sins. What's your point?
(Their son was literally *God Incarnate* who taught the Law and the need of repentance).
I agree but homophobics won't repent or turn from their satanic homophobic lifestyle choice.
This didn't answer anything. It's not just a sexual attraction, it's a persons whole individuality that shows through homosexuality. It is impossible to turn straight and change ones whole personality and individuality. You can't separate sexual attraction from an individual themselves.
You're right, more right than you might realize.
It's not homosexuality or sex that they're upset about, thoug that is part of it.
They 're uncomfortable with any gender deviation, any difference at all ususally.
Part of that is just the eternal human fear of the other and the different, but a lot of it comes from this insane binary sexist morality.
If a man is a masculine provide and a woman a feminine mother.. then a lot of their interpretation is disproven.
If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Hearing the "full truth" rhetoric is such a bummer because that is what gay people are trying to do. By the definition of love he gives, the Catholic church doesn't love them.
The catholic church teaches men don't know what's best for them because the human heart is deceitful. God knows what's best for us. We operate on our desires, emotions, and urges. God calls us to something higher than our sexual desires. That's what the church teaches.
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That's not entirely true though is it.
The Catholic church holds human sexuality hostage, it has to be within the constraints of heterosexual marriage and only then without contraception.
Married couples are demanded to have children.
And if sex is really so unimportant then it seems strange to me that there would be so much fuss over it.
Let me know when we get to page 69 đ
I am Catholic and Iâve been divorced twice. Once I had it annulled. My first ex lied and said he was Catholic. Since I was 5, I wanted to be Catholic. My family of Protestants laughed at me. I wanted to be a nun at 5. I messed up and went with my plan. I didnât realize He made me infertile to let me be a nun. I kept begging Him for children and he opened my womb at 27. I divorced my second husband this year for abusing my children. Now I ask God for forgiveness for not only choosing the wrong path, but choosing the wrong men. I was called to be a nun. I still have the urge to be a nun. But I have dependent children. And since my ex has gone far astray, the kids need the example from someone in their lives, so Iâve chosen one last man. I have not married him in the traditional sense but heâs willing, as a Protestant, to help me raise my kids (for the time we have them), Catholic. And when he messed up, he took the rosary and cried over it. Weâll see how this ends up. He messed up by picking up his previous sins behind my back. No need to go further. He made mistakes, as I have. He repented of them and maybe, just maybe, when the kids are raised heâll finally be where he should have been the whole time. Godâs church.
Me being gay, and born gay, threatens the very fabric of christianity.
God made me gay. So in essence your saying gods wrong,?
no one is wrong If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
One shouldnât hate the homosexuals as they are sinners in need of repentance also.
What sin are they repenting of?
repent from what ???If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
The good Lord has brought me and my husband a same sex attracted neighbor. By providence I have been cooking him dinner once a week and showing him Christs love. I donât know if he knows if I am a Catholic but I pray for him as I make the food. We never know how our Lord is using us to reach the suffering. May the good Lord be with you all â€
Thank you for sharing! God bless you, too!
â@TheologyoftheBodyInstitute Why just asking about catholics? Ask about how Muslim hate gays!! Or other religions?! Catholics hate Noone.
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
He is not "same-sex attracted" like it's some kind of disease. He's gay. It's a perfectly harmless natural variation. By all means share the gospel, but only invite him to a fully accepting and affirming church. Treating homoxesuality like it's something wrong is a sin.
@@MusicalRaichuDonât introduce him to the church they believe to be true because he might have to hear a doctrine he disagrees with? That sounds very selfish
People have free will to choose to follow Godâs teachings but the right thing to do would show him the biblical teachings on sexuality and hope he sees the light
GOD said let us make man in our image male and female do you not Believe Lord thy God
he also made LGBT people also
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Well, in order to convince or persuade such people, they must first accept the Scriptures as Truth, which they do not. So, you may as well blow smoke or bubbles. The only argument that could open a dialogue is to show how society decays because of sinful/aberrant behaviors or corrupted ideologies. If the argument is credulous, then the opened pages of Scriptures can give Light to Truth and justify morality. This is broken and this is how to fix it.
So good, so true, thank you!! đđđ
you knew homophobia was a sin though yes?
@@pastorbri Hi again mr pastor. I don't believe the people you might refer to as 'homophobes' actually have a phobia. If you refer to hatred, then yes hatred is sinful. And homosexuality is also sinful. And there is nothing hateful in me saying what is sinful according to God's Law. It is actually loving to tell one to turn from his or her sins, if you believe one's immortal soul is in danger. Wishing someone to know and love God and to be with Him is the most good and loving thing you can wish for someone.
@@T...P... Homoxesuality is a trait someone possesses and is no more or less sinful than having red hair. It's what one does with one's gift from God that is moral or not. If you treat others especially your partner with respect and sincerity and kindness and faithfulness, if you give God humble thanks for the pleasures he sends your way, then you are obeying ALL God's commands.
PS you need to look up homofobia in the dictionary.
@@MusicalRaichu Attraction is not sinful. But lust and disordered actions are. Sex is between a man and a woman within marriage; anything else is not God's Command for human sexuality. And don't worry I have no phobia.
@@MusicalRaichu Does it not worry you to believe, promote, and possibly engage (but I don't know you personally) in the disordered things you say? I can debate you all day, but what I care more about is that you see the truth for the sake of your soul, not a won debate.
Eternal consequences from our lives now. If it matters what you believe to have a proper relationship with God, would you not change your mind to focus on God's Will?
Just gonna say as a former Catholic and a homosexual THIS is what lead me to leave the church. All youâre doing is putting a âgood faceâ on Homophobia. You change the language but you never change the overall meaning. Just have the balls to come out and say it. The Catholic Church Hates Gay people and thinks weâre all going to Hell. Itâs in youâre doctrine, the catechism states: âHomosexuality is a grave and moral sin.â You can say âwell itâs just your cross to bareâ or, âHate the sin but love the sinnerâ But we all know what you actually think. Until you change the rule youâll continue to be a dying institution and fade away. Inclusivityâs the way of the future. Get with it. Or donât. Itâs your choice.
"until you change the rule"
It's not a board game in which you can change rules?! This is thousands of years old doctrine which we believe is God given...
The Catholic position is we should love everyone. Presumably we are to love those even who are in hell -- people go to hell because they CHOOSE to be there, presumably it doesn't mean they don't have worth as God's creations. So even if we believe someone is in danger of going to hell, this is no reason not to love them. That is inauthentic Christianity. re: "But we all know what you actually think", Any Catholic who hates anyone is not living out their faith. This I can say with certainty. I can also say that if any dogma of the Catholic Church were to go against actual love then it should be thrown out. And if it turns out that a dogma of the Church goes against love, then the Catholic Church would be wrong. There is no justification as a Christian to hate anyone, ever, and I'm sorry for anyone who has given you the wrong idea.
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Itâs a doctrine of the European church not of the scripture.
Scripture does not condemn homosexuality.
Neither did most of the world until European colonization got to them.
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I would agree with you that hatred is a doctrine contrary to Christianity, scripture says as much.
But that does not change the fact that it is very common amongst real and professed Christians.
You can easily see the the hypocrisy of emphasis on this issue over others, and the sheer glee people express at the suffering of Queer people.
I would also agree with you that there is no legitimate restriction on love. Galatians 5:23 â⊠against such things there is no lawâ, but that leaves us in a weird position because the Catholic Church has attempted to create them anyways.
Iâve heard some rather idiotic and hateful arguments that Queer people are incapable of love or that they mindlessly driven by lust, but a brief moment of reflection shows that thatâs not the case.
The Catholic church already has some weird and unbiblical ideas about sex in my opinion so itâs no surprise that Queer people are caught up in that too.
But still, Catholics and other Christians wholesale reject the idea of Queer relationships, whether or not they are sexual.
Homosexuality isnât even condemned in scripture but even in the application of the states values of the Catholic church I donât see any consistency.
truth be known If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
I love the way you deliver the message. Praise be to God. So, si many young men are struggling with lust and the way you deliver The Word just lays it down in a direct, repeatable and compassionate so that we can pass it on to other young men who want to follow Christ.
The idea that chastity and celibacy only apply to non-straight couples and the conflation of chastity and celibacy with holiness are really some of the most nonsensical, idiotic and bizarre ideas that Christians and others entertain in their minds. Itâs just pure madness. Having a loving partner in life is completely natural and normal. Forced celibacy and chastity just for same sex couples is grossly unnatural, abnormal and dangerous! Itâs not accidental that so many unmarried or unpartnered clerics and monastics are child sex abusers and perverts. It goes with the territory! People really need to wake to where this dangerous mindset and teaching leads! Religious people routinely enjoy filling their heads with these bizarre and unnatural notions and remain completely oblivious and blind to the dark reality. I am sorry but it is simply not the case that lifelong chastity and celibacy is spiritually enhancing or morally superior. This is a dangerous myth. Those that promote this myth are really complicit in promoting a form of evil. Those that promote evil ARE evil! These lunatics then have the audacity to judge and condemn those that refuse to comply with their lunatic ideas as bad and evil themselves. Perhaps these religious fanatics and zealots should start looking in the mirror first themselves before they have the audacity to condemn others. Even that great fraud and scoundrel St Paul who did more to pervert and destroy the Christianity of Jesus more than any church figure in the history of the church acknowledged and recognised that celibacy was not by any means for everyone. Those that wish to indulge their religious narcissistic moral superiority complexes by condemning loving same sex couples as sinful are all characterised by: low empathy, an absence of critical thinking abilities, black and white thinking usually centred around ideologically motivated ideas around biblical authority and infallibility, a failure to conduct any in depth exegesis and a whole host of other failings and vices. Good sane people run from these people because they do not have your best interests at heart and do not speak the truth about things. Want good exegesis? Go check out Jennifer Bird phd
"The idea that chastity and celibacy only apply to non-straight couples " literally not true, nor is that taught by the Church
@@GuitarBloodlines Terribly sorry but lifelong celibacy does only apply to non-straight couples since the Catholic Church only performs opposite sex marriage which totally sinks your point!
@@herambaanjaneya2041 All Catholics are called to be chaste throughout their life, priests and religious are also under oaths of lifelong celibacy
marriage is only valid between a Man and a Woman
@@GuitarBloodlines Anyone reading your response can see that you are failing to address the intrinsic problem of the teaching itself. If you canât or wonât address that then itâs a complete waste of time discussing the matter. If you think the policy is fine, fair and youâre prepared to monkey around and play fast and loose with the lives non-hetero couples in loving relationships then I would say that you really need to go away reflect upon what you are up to. Being the Churchâs âbitchâ and unthinkingly complying or being complicit in harm does not exonerate you from wrongdoing in the eyes of God or for that matter anyone else. Besides only clergy take oaths of celibacy NOT laity!
@@GuitarBloodlines No, I am sorry marriage is for everyone and the Episcopalians amongst a number of Protestant denominations perform it.
I am really really attracted to a lot of guys see, and meet. I have a really bad problem with this area, with literally no real support
support from knowledge
A good book If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
it's only a "bad problem" because you've been told it's a problem. it's not, it's a harmless natural variation, not a sin. this talk is full of errors.
â@@MusicalRaichuexcept when ending up wearing adult diapers
@@buddharocket all secs carries health risks. the safest is woman with woman. the riskiest is ainal between man and woman. so much for that theory.
Nothing bad or wrong about being gay.
You got that right my friend read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
The Church doesn't hate anyone. It leaves that to its members, who are experts. I think your narrative provides an accurate vision of human sexuality and its ideal. But the lived reality of the church is different: able to readily embrace the divorced and remarried, smoothing out the path with annulments, so ready to be flexible with the explicit word of Christ on the matter, whilst sharpening the knives for those unfortunate enough to have grown up with same sex attractions, something of which Christ never spoke. What will you (the members of the Church) do with them? You would prefer they would just have the good manners to hide themselves away, maybe leave the church, (some of them suicide). You don't want to wrestle with the ambiguities of their condition. As someone, Catholic, with same sex attraction, but who has remained celibate all my life, I have, apart from the rare hidden living saint in the Church, found the genuine friendship, support, compassion and human kindness I have known from agnostics and atheists, unsullied by the self-serving advice of Job's friends. They wonder at my attachment to the Church. I admit I do too. But I long to find my place there somehow... The Truth is more than words, and far more than being right...
I admire your faith in these difficult times and your witness
and I agree with your last sentence
this would not be the first time in history where the Church is filled with Pharisees
in time reform will come, have faith and remember we stay on this ship in the midst of the storm even if some of the crew members are evil
You spoke the sad truth. This, frankly, irritates me a bit about this catholic "explaining away" of things. The arguments are all nice and tidy, until it comes down to, as you said, the actual lived reality. I am not a homosexual and not even catholic, but I feel for you guys, God has not blessed you with an easy life. But as st. Francis de Sales said: "what does it matter whether God speaks to us from amongst thorns or flowers?"
The scripture does not even condemn homosexuality.
Really itâs just the wrong set of political pressures.
The church has politicized this issue so much that to be in any way thoughtful or open to new ideas would be seen as a breech of legitimacy.
@@Grokford The bible does condemn homosexual activities.
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It doesnât actually.
The original text makes no mention of homosexuality only brief and contextual references to homoeroticism.
Though arguably you could argue that it implied that homosexuality existed by referencing men who were naturally involved with women in Romans 1
Amen.
Pointless debate, stupid is stupid.....period.
knowledge not stupidity If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Who gets to define what is âgoodâ for a person? Plus, âthe churchâs proposalâ backed up with threats of punishment is not a mere proposal; itâs coercive and menacing.
What is 'good' for a person is to be with God for eternity. We all fall short of God's goodness, and none of us deserve Heaven by our own evil merits. Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of sins. Repentance is not important because I told you, but rather because good and evil exists, God is good, Jesus Christ (who is God) gave us the Law, and therefore we must strive for holiness.
Believing that sin does not matter, believing that hell is not real, believing that there is no afterlife are all a lies from the devil.
Don't fall for it, for the love of you as my neighbour, take your immortal soul seriously.
a good book If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
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Sure, but to suggest that a sin can supersede the grace of God is a heresy.
@@Grokford What exactly are you suggesting? (Your comment is very vague.)
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The imply that a person's individual actions can make the difference between salvation and damnation is to imply either that God's grace is insufficient for all of our sins, or that one can achieve salvation through human effort, possibly both.
These are respectively called the heresy of insufficient grace and the heresy of works.
Regardless of what sin we are talking about, by prioritizing behavioral changes that at best moves salvation down the list of priorities, delaying the thing that will actually help people.
And in many cases the value of grace is not simply delayed it is ignored, and by focusing on forcing other people to change we actually chase people away from God and grace.
You can almost never change human behavior by lecturing people, it's just as likely that you'll make them dig in their heels and become more resistant to change.
But if Christians show themselves to be nasty, judgmental sticklers, then people(quite rightly in my opinion) will want nothing to do with them.
Worse if people are cruel, as many Christian have been.
I don't think morality is different based on your sex, so I don't believe homosexuality is wrong.
But even if it is, I'd much rather have a gay person saved by the grace of God than someone trying to be straight while far from actual salvation.
In my experience the focus on homosexuality is disproportionate to Christian reactions on other sins, not because people believe that it's worse or because they are genuinely concerned about Queer people, but because they themselves are shocked and scared of it.
It may not be a common subject of discussion anymore, but Christians around the world watched the AIDS Crisis unfold, many celebrating it, others merely condoning it.
I don't think that was out of concern for Queer people, I think it was because they thought it was the quickest and easiest way for them to never have to deal with gay people again. Hundreds of thousands of deaths later and here we are.
Most of the time, anymore when people talk about homophobia they're talking about prejudice not fear; but I really believe that a lot of people are afraid of Queer people.
Whether it's because of how Queer people change society or because of what they've built Queer people up to be in their heads, I don't know.
But in many cases, people aren't passionate about this issue because they are earnestly concerned about the good of Queer people.
Its population control, if you have too many older brothers your more likely to be;
But Sometimes its a defense mechanism if you are too young on your first experience.
And thirdly it could be microplastics interfering with the hormonal system and developing the brain in utero
No divorce . How do you escape a bad marriage?
You get a divorce then seek an annulment.
You start by making sure your relationship is Godly before getting married.
@@davidchampion6428 You can only get an annulment if there was no marriage in the first place. If there was a marriage, it's a heavy cross to bear, but you can live separated from your spouse and get a civil divorce, but you cannot remarry.
@@JodianWarrior I received an annulment
@@davidchampion6428 I'm not saying they don't happen, I'm just saying that they are a declaration that a previous marriage did not in fact take place due to one or more of the requirements for marriage not being fulfilled. I just don't like to see people equating it with divorce, since that causes confusion. Not everyone can get an annulment because not everyone in bad marriages had an invalid marriage.
What are some of the practical recommendations can be offered, now that we know the truth? Asking as a SSA male - do we remain celibate, or marry?
If I were to tell you the brutal truth, then my experience would seem to indicate that most anti-gay Christians want Queer people to disappear.
If you marry a woman, they can ignore your orientation as long as you don't talk about it. If you're openly a Queer celibate they might in theory approve but it's still a downgraded status.
So as best as I can tell your options are to keep it a secret or become comfortable with a certain level of disapproval.
That seems to be the case whether you have sex(with either sex) or become celibate.
Most any congregation who cares enough to disapprove of homosexuality is going to disapprove of Queer celibates too, if only quietly.
Because usually, again in my experience, they're not actually that concerned with sin, or your spiritual well-being. They're just uneasy with the difference that Queer people represent.
And if I were to get up on my soapbox for a moment, I'd tell you that this man is a kook with no credibility, Love is not a sin and that morality isn't sexist.
There are millions of Queer Christians, it's not actually the contradiction that people imply.
If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Y'all are so dramatic. Stop being homophobic and, whoever is reading this, accept who you are, it's okay to be gay â€ïž
While itâs okay to experience any sinful thought or impulse, Itâs not okay to act these out. Itâs inherently disordered from what our biology clearly calls for.
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Love is not a sinful impulse, neither is attraction.
you are right on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Look, I get where you're coming from with your beliefs, but these kind of anti-gay religious teachings directly contribute to higher rates of anguish, depression, and suicidal tendencies among our brothers and sisters who love differently than us, so don't we have an obligation to re-examine these beliefs with humility?
Our spiritual values are meant to reduce harm, not catalyze it. To embrace all people with compassion. I have to believe there's a way to uphold your beliefs while promoting dignity and saving lives. You have a real opportunity here to help heal long-standing wounds rather than keeping them open and bleeding. I'm just asking you to keep an open heart and mind on this. What if your voice could make a difference?
great statement read on If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Trouble is, their entire church is built on the premise that they're infallible. If they admit they're wrong on one thing, everything they teach is called into question. At least part of the protestant church is changing, but I don't hold much hope for catholicism.
@@MusicalRaichu The church is not a democracy or a popularity contest. Truth doesnât just change with the times
@@dakotahmays1437 The truth might not change, but perceptions of what is true do. At some point, it became useful to the church to start believing it was infallible, even though that's not the truth.
@@MusicalRaichu Regardless, I wouldnât want an institution to be a weathervane, just going wherever the wind is blowing
God wants children from the orphanage to have parents. These couples are made for them. But since these children really ask God for parents, therefore they are truly born of God as gays
Expected sloppy exegesis. The beautiful hypocrisy of a married person telling a gay person be happy you get to live your life alone, now excuse me while I go back to my wife and family, I'm gonna go do the thing I just said you can't do.
If the afterlife is real, and Jesus Christ really is God, then there are more important things in life than wives, husbands, having children, girlfriends, and boyfriends. And there are definitely more important things than living out all of one's desires.
If the soul is immortal then the most important thing to do is have faith and obey the word of God.
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It's also more important than eating but I suspect that you still eat.
It's not an all or nothing proposition.
No hypocrisy here If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
Yes. It's true we were made male and female... But I think that homophobicness is also a sin... It's the reason why male kills other male for a female... Because of lack of affection to the same sex... If I'm gay and I need a hug from another man whom I like, that should be given generously instead of falling into selfishness... It's not all about sex... It's one act of being a family... If I see God and I find him handsome, and I tell him his handsome... I believe he will be pleased because it's a compliment... And of course I have a lot of argument that can't be contained by one comment... I need to refine them and hopefully be a youtuber to defend myself... In order to be understood, one must express himself/ herself.
I think the problem is that nowhere in the Bible does it say God wants homosexuality or lesbianism among his people. Quite the opposite. Jesus also presched binary sexuality, saying we were created male and female.
Well that's not true.
The Bible never said that God wanted us to keep cats as pets either but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do it.
Jesus never preached "binary sexuality" I'm not even sure what that would be, but eunuchs would certainly fall outside of it.
@@Grokford Jesus said: "From the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife Mark 10:6-9 (Binary: a system of numerical notation that has 2 as a base. Male + female = 2)
Yes it is how god made you . Iâve witnessed it first hand . I saw people attempting suicide because they did not want to be gay.
True, the Church does not hate gay people any more than it hates anyone else it believes is going to hell. It loves them all. It does teach gay people to not love and accept themselves for who they are, and to not act accordingly. The Church manages to come off as innocent; gay people come out of their experience with the Church broken in mind and spirit.
Gay love desires the beloved's true good. It does not approve of anything and everything a person might do.
Gay love is to live the truth of our humanity. Homophobia refuses to recognize the truth of our humanity.
Gay love is often generative of new life either in the form of children and/or in the form of societal enrichment.
This 21st century historical moment in the Church is another one of those Church vis-a-vis science moments. There was Galileo in the 17th century who challenged the Church's astronomy belief that the sun, moon and stars revolve around the earth. There was Darwin in the 19th century who challenged the Church's creation belief as to the origin of species. Today there is the science of psychology in the 21st century which challenges the Church's sexual orientation beliefs. Sexual orientation is not a choice, is therefore not a sin, it is simply something that exists. The Church likes to tell gay people that they are loved BUT to not act in accordance with who they are. Which is telling them to hide who they really are and just "put on an act." That message is injurious: just observe all the gay people around you whose took that message to heart and whose lives have been broken as a result.
What did Galileo get in trouble for?
@@nathanp.claiborne8276 In the times of Copernicus and Galileo (15th - 17th centuries), the Catholic Church believed it was a matter of faith that the universe revolves around the Earth. The Scriptures state clearly that the sun rises and sets (Psalm 113:3); the Scriptures even say the Lord made the sun stand still for Joshua (Joshua 10:12-14).
Copernicus and Galileo were introducing something new: the physical sciences. Just look and say what you see. But the Church considered any physical observations that seemed to contradict the Scriptures to be intrinsically erroneous. Galileo was put on trial for heresy for proposing a heliocentric solar system and moons that revolved around planets other than Earth. He was found guilty, sentenced to house arrest, forbidden to advance his science, and made to pray the seven penitential psalms every day for the rest of his life.
The Church had a similarly rough time with Darwinian evolution in the 19th century.
Today the Church is having a rough time with psychology. Psychology, it should be noted, is a branch of philosophy, a metaphysical science, not a physical science. The metaphysical sciences of philosophy, theology and psychology are not provable in the same way that the physical sciences are provable, yet they deserve recognition and respect. St. Thomas Aquinas used Aristotelian philosophy to illuminate Christian belief in his time. Wise people today will use psychology to illuminate Christian belief in our time.
@@fredphilippi8388 Copernicus book on heliocentric universe was dedicated to a Pope and was taught in Jesuit Universities. Galileo was punished for, like you clarified, blasphemy not because of his scientific beliefs. (So the premise of your comment, even with your backtracked clarification is incorrect)
Your comment comes off as someone who doesn't understand the theological arguments the Church holds about 2SLGBTQIA+ issues.
I would look into those, as well as historical accounts of Galileo. He wasn't punished for blasphemy because of scientific disagreements. Galileo's story had more to do with ego and politics due to the reformation than anything scientific.
@@nathanp.claiborne8276 I smile. The Jesuits teaching heliocentricity in the 16th century is analogous to Jesuits teaching modern human sexuality (including LGBTQ sexuality) today. It is not yet formally approved by the Church, but is true by all measures.
I note that it took the Church about 350 years to finally formally acknowledge that Galileo was right. It was not until Pope John Paul II's concession in November 1992 that the Church acknowledged Galileo was right. Let's hope it will not take the Church another 350 years to recognize that the modern understanding of human sexuality was right.
@@fredphilippi8388 If you're hoping the Church does a 180 on views of faith and morals then you'll be waiting more than 350 years.
Excellent exposition! As Our Blessed Mother keeps reminding us in Medjugorje, Satan is very strong. As you say, we only need to looks around us and inside ourselves to see how much we attracted to sinful ways.
Genesis ... and thorns appeared. Thorns appeared in all their many forms at the moment of the Fall. Thorns crowned the head of Jesus as a sign of contradiction to the effects of the Fall and of sin in all its many forms. Homosexual acts are sinful. Homosexual attractions are not sinful unless acted out. The same is true for all sins of the flesh. The World, and its ruler Satan, embraces all sinful acts enticing all the children of God to do the same at the expense of their salvation.
Sounds like you're trying to sugar-coat an intolerable traditional belief. The idea that secs is solely for reproduction is not found in scripture. It was invented by the church a long time ago and they can't seem to admit it was an error without compromising their authority.
Seeing variations in secs orientation as the result of human sin is unfounded. It's a hypothesis to explain the dilemma between the church's position and the impossible situation it puts people in. But there's no support for the hypothesis. Another plausible hypothesis is that same-secs attraction is part of the rich diversity in God's creation. Scripture tells us God gives different gifts to different people 1 Cor 7.7.
You refer to Genesis 2, but it fails to support you. The stated reasons for marriage are companionship "not good to be alone", mutual support "helper", familial relationship "bone of my bone" and intimacy "one flesh". reproduction is notably absent. Furthermore, identical reasons are experienced by people with same-secs orientation, so what do they do?
It gives the answer. What is the stated condition for marriage? The man saw the woman and recognized her as suitable; "therefore" they get married. Now if because of his orientation a man is incapable of recognizing a woman as suitable but only another man, then for the very same reason, he SHOULD marry the man. Equivalently for a woman.
After all, there is nothing in the story to suggest it would be wrong for two men/women to be married, marrying against one's orientation fails to meet the stated condition and in practice often fails, and staying single while experiences the need for companionship contradicts God's assertion that "it's not good".
A book with facts not dogma If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@@dan69052 Do you think I'm gay?
Amen papa amen papa
DO You Know Jesus Christ?
The Only Saviour
He said his name is IAM
The Good News to Our Sin Problem Cause Weâre ALL Sinners and Need the Lord Jesus Christ to Forgive us our Sins
Romans 3:25-27
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
What does it take to be Forgiven?
Faith Alone in the Death, Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ to Forgive your Sins through His blood (By believing in this you have become a new creation in Christ, and have a promise youâll be with the Lord in your death, but also have the Holy Spirit living in you forever as a guide for you)
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 10:9-11 KJV
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 4:24-25 KJV
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
(Christ died for our sins, he was buried, and he rose again according to the scriptures) By having faith in that alone you are sealed with the Holy Spirit forever and SAVED from the moment of faith for Eternity.
What if I continue to Sin?
What if I stop having Faith?
What if 5 years after being saved I have an affair?
What if I aborted my child?
What about suicide?
When you first had faith in Christ in your heart you were sealed and justified from that day forward, no matter what you do or donât do our Lord has saved your soul and made you a new creation. Eternal Security (100% Going to Heaven)
This is isnât a license to sin, itâs a realization that God gave you the best gift ever by saving your soul from hell.
Your old habits of sin go away over time when you walk with the Lord. No one is perfect, thatâs why Jesus had to Justify (Impute righteousness) us through his righteousness by the blood. So donât be discouraged you will grow and your old habits will shed away over time. You will always have struggles but God always remains faithful.
Loving people is what the Lord wants us to do, so I would encourage everyone to minister the Gospel and be an example of Gods power through the renewing of your mind on Gods Word. When we listen to people speak and show them love God will shine through us. The âsmallâ things in life like a smile, a hug, a great attitude, a conversation with a stranger, an encouraging word, cooking dinner for someone in need, loving your parents, and having a heart for people as Christians should have.
Iâm looking forward to that day when we meet the Lord and all the Christians in the clouds at the Rapture. Our time on earth is running out so lets spread the gospel in love.
Titus 3:8 KJV
This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
Galatians 3:23-25 KJV
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
( Weâre not under the law so no longer under the curse of sin cause weâre Justified by Jesus through Faith Alone)
Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Titus 3:5 KJV
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Romans 8:15 KJV
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
When you believe in you heart on the Death, Burial, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ (The Finished Works/Blood) you are saved brothers and sisters for all of eternity (Eternal Security is Yours)
Romans 8:38-39 KJV
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Galatians 1:11-12 KJV
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The Gospel of Grace is for You
Nothing can ever take you away from our
Lord Jesus Christ when you first believe in your heart.
NOTHING
NOT YOUR FUTURE PRIDE
NOT YOUR PRESENT LUST
NOT YOUR FUTURE LUST
NOTHING MEANS NOTHING
GOD WILL REMAIN FAITHFUL TO YOU
When I learned I was sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eternal Security) I was so happy, because my whole life (30 years of it) I believed a lie that I could lose my salvation by my bad works. Cause of that belief I walked away from the Lord for many years, âso whatâs the point if I canât measure upâ. I ran to alcohol, drugs, woman etc, and it made me so depressed. I was longing to fill the hole in my heart that I came to realize only God can fill. Many years went by, then the last day I drank came, and I called out to God and balled my eyes out. From that day I started changing, and I havenât drunk since. God has helped me through many emotional issues, has made my relationships much better, and if the Lord can save me, I know He can save you.
Now that I have proper understanding, and realize the truth of His love it makes me want to do more for God. God wants us to do Good works and by our example people will see Christ and potentially come to believe.
God wants All men and woman to be saved
I pray this helps You or Someone Else get a little closer to Jesus Christ and get clarity on Gods Word and the power that it has to change your life.
God Bless You
these are heresies
AmenđđŒ
Pope Francis thinks it's okay to be a homosexual. A few years back, he insisted that homosexuals not only "have a right to be a part of the family" but also "have a right to a family." He added: ""What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered."
Concerning civil unions for homosexuals, one Catholic official stated: "The legal recognition of homosexual unions or placing them on the same level as marriage would mean not only the approval of deviant behavior." Can you imagine that? By his support of gay civil unions, Pope Francis, the head of the Catholic Church, approves of deviant [sexual] behavior. This is only one aspect of the morally corrupt Catholic Church.
BTW, I wonder if Pope Francis has ever attended Gay Pride Month activities.
Some back info If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@@dan69052 The issue at hand concerns the Catholic Church's position on homosexuality. So, tell me, do you believe the Church is in favor of homosexuality? Or do you believe it is opposed to it?
@@cbooth151 I believe it is none of their business; for that matter it is no ones business
@@dan69052 Can you plz answer the question?
acceptence not hate If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
Ist Cor 6:9. New Living Translation
Donât you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Donât fool yourselves, Those who indulge in sexual sins. Or who worship idols, or who commit adultery or are male prostitutes or practice homosexuality....Writing this love and praying that all will enjoy the Kingdom of God..
If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Letâs look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the total development of the fetus. Major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in our development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin. If your religion or belief system states that it is, then there can be no argument. These are the rules based on this systemâs dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. This is your only choice which is condemnation & hatred of those who think otherwise
If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both based on genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
I'm all for quoting the Bible, but not if it's mistranslated. The Bible makes no reference to homoxesuality. It wasn't even discovered until late 19th cent.
Thank you for giving me another reason to remain an athiest. I could listen to you or I could go and read a biology book on human sexuality. Sexuality among mammals is fluid. There are gay mammals etc. The catholic church accepts evolution, so I've heard, and we are mammals. Human sexuality is natural and normal. Your idea of god creating man and woman as eternal heterosexuals is fantasy. So, there's probably no god (of the catholic persuasion).
I'll sit back and wait as the church, slowly but surely, accepts gay sexuality, gay priests, female priests etc.
But I have studied human sexuality and had my views reinforced, as homosexuality seems to be caused by complications in the womb, or by events in childhood, it really seems to me that it, depending on cause, is either a hormonal or mental disorder. I donât mean this as an insult by any means, disorders arenât something to be ashamed of, I myself have autism so Iâm definitely not using disorder as an insult. But it does seem to me that associations just refuse to classify it as such because they donât want to offend anyone. Please donât take this as hatred towards homosexuals because I promise you I have none, I just wanted to enter the discussion with my own experience, God bless!
What characterises a hormonal change in the womb as abnormal or disordered? Life and evolution are based around mutation and variation in living beings, itâs how species and communities are able to survive. Even if you want to look at it from a purely ânaturalâ, animalistic perspective, stating that the purpose of living beings is to procreate, many lgbtq+ creatures throughout the animal kingdom have displayed a great benefit in its communities of gay couples. Penguins are a known species that pair for life and will generally only bear one child at a time. If their partner dies they will not re-partner and will either die of starvation whilst protecting the child or the child will die of exposure while they are out hunting. In numerous instances gay penguins have been known to adopt abandoned eggs or support single parents in these situations. This is just one example
In the defense of Christianity, heâs directly contradicted biblical scripture multiple times and just wholesale invented new ideas. This is his personal theory not the scripture.
@@samr6514 this is actually very true, in many animals under certain conditions members will stop reproducing and take up other functions.
Lol, these people are so delusional to think that any more than a tiny sliver of gen Z will go along with an institution that arbitrarily excludes ALL WOMEN from priesthood (AKA their power structure). Good luck with that one. Have fun explaining that to your grandkids. Theyâll probably relent on that one though in a couple decades, and act as if it was always the churchâs policy through some wordplay loophole that wonât even impress the lawyerly among us. And then when women are accepted itâll be another couple decades before they decide lgbtq people deserve what straight people do. đ
whats this dude yappin about?
about half way through its history, the church figured that because having secs is for making babies, then it's ONLY for making babies and a sin to do it for any other reason. that means that according to their view, gay people can't have secs without ending up in heII.
May the world đ be morally right with you OLORD!
The Church is NOT she but a BODY made up of .
the members who are the believers in Christ
If the catholic church would stop adding to Gods word to start with we would know what God said. Being gay was never a sin anyway.
Michael Ibach replied: "Always has been a sin, always will be a sin."
pastor brian; and homophobia is a sin.
@@pastorbri it is, and so are homosexual acts
@@monkeymode7529 homosexual acts? Whats that? 2 men holding hands? 2 women who kiss on the cheek? 2 men hugging? As heterosexuals do all these things too.
@@monkeymode7529 homosexuality is not condemned in scripture.
@@Grokford 1Timothy 1:10, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:26-27
People need to learn life is about what GOD made us male and female and man and woman together
Heterosexuality is not our purpose.
That is so blatantly unbiblical I donât even know where to start.
I don't see how someone could possibly turn from this sin
its OK If you are gay or know someone who is, this is important information! Sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetus development. Various hormones are introduced at specific times to accomplish this. The fetus plays no part in this process. A person is born with predetermined physical, biological & psychologic features. It is, therefore, not a choice & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of our evolution & found commonplace in nature. Medical research in this area clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. It is their right to believe this and I understand them. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section before hand. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & must defend it. Donât let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
they can't, and it's not a sin.
It's diversity hehehe
Human are spirit living in a body no matter the gender, physical body is like a clothes. Love is so deep that you can't help get rid of . Pretending is also a great sin before the lord
Can you demonstrate that to be true?
@@Maksie0 can you demonstrate if death is true?
@@mbahchietom2222Do you mean can I demonstrate if death exists? You could visit your local morgue, or visit a cemetery. As a society we tend to be kind of squeamish about death but if you look, you can find instances of it everywhere. From the news headlines about fatal accidents to the flattened roadkill on your daily commute. You could also die to experience it yourself, but I wouldn't recommend it, as there doesn't seem to really be any coming back from that.
@@Maksie0 you have answered the question you asked me if I could demonstrate how spirit choose to live in a body.
@@mbahchietom2222 The existence of death doesn't tell us anything about this claim about spirits existing.