What if India and Pakistan Went to War (Again)?
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- Will India and Pakistan go to war? The history of conflict, current tensions, and potential causes were explored. Learn about India's advantage, Cold Start doctrine, and the devastating impact of nuclear war.
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💥MAJOR correction - Partition wasn't between Muslim Pakistan and Hindu India but Muslim Pakistan who thought they can't coexist with Hindus and a Secular India comprising of Hindus, Muslims, Christians etc. It is reflected in the present day population of the 2 Nations too. While India today has almost as many Myslims as Pakistan = 200 million... Pakistan's non Muslim population has shrunk from 15% to 1%
India is not secular and pakistan was right seeing hindutva today. Pakistan will nuke india soon
The 1937 Congress ministries broke all hope of a United India, as attested by Dr. Ambedkar, the famous Indian constitutionalist.
The population of Hindus in erstwhile West Pakistan has remained constant since 1951.
India shouldn’t be secular, we should be Hindu.
@@AG-vb6vv agree, secularism did us more harm, should've done population exchanges during 47. Instead they were given special privileges, and vote bank minority appeasement politics started by Congress. They are nothing but a liability almost a 0.5 front Internal security threat, truth is they cannot co-exist in India or anywhere else in the world, everywhere they go terrorism follows.
Because hindus are fools
Don't worry illuminati is at your service
India no longer considers Pakistan as a formidable threat, all eyes are on leveling up with the Chinese now.
Hilarious Yet alhamdulillah Muslims still have your land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan and there’s nothing your Bollywood dancing military can do
@@Randomhandlename 4 wars and they didn't even won one
What's up with you scumbag ?
@@Randomhandlename where's your east Pakistan 😋, lost half of Pakistan land but still this attitude is what making your nation go bankrupt, and the same dancing military made the Pakistani army dance to its tunes when 93k soldiers surrendered 🤣
@@Randomhandlename chuslims pissed their pants in 1971 and gave up East Pakistan 🥱
@Find Out Why do you muslims seem to be so brainwashed about everything?
9:14 As an Indian I would like to clarify that I do believe India is not afraid of any dragon or whatever animal that is; if any misadventures occurs on our territories, we won't step back to take on China or pakistan or both combined.
Aksai Chin is Indian territory and India will take it back one day.
Aksai chin and pok is a part of Jammu and Kashmir and we will take back from enemies
Combined😂
You can't withstand a war with the chinese for 1 month. With a gdp per capita below 3k you often forget how poor you really are. I visited India last year there were beggars everywhere. Please try to do something for the poor people first. I can't believe India seriously think it is a superpower and able to take Pakistan+Chinese combined wrath 😂😂😂
Nah man they gonna fuck us up
You're gonna face Pakistan AND China? 😂. I can see you taking us, you have a larger population, larger, army, economy. But our big bro China? 😂.
@@ammarahsan2157defence and offence matter a lot my guy
Critical Correction: Indus water treaty doesn’t allocate water equally to both nations. India is only allowed to use only 20% of the water and India has to share 80% of the water to Pakistan through this this treaty. More info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Waters_Treaty
yes even India is an upstream country, then also we are in a disadvantageous position.
@@priteeshpareek9264Because Indus water has always flown through Pakistan, genius.
@@maquacr7014comes from India to Pakistan. Can block any time.
@@rockyyadav1695 Kashmir is a disputed territory, clown.
source!! Wikipedia? 😂
My grandfather moved to india with his family after the partition when he was young. They lived in Bangladesh at the time and had to smuggle themselves upriver on a small fishing boat. Their only possessions were my great grandmother’s jewellery and they survived on that and did a few odd jobs for months until my great grandfather got a job at a railway station. They lost their land, homes and all their savings. It was a hard time for everyone.
Bangal naki? Same here
Amar o
Blast em out of map..
You mean East Pakistan.
Yes, my grandfather too
Country for Hindus was not created from partition
It was created for Muslims.
Dozens of ethnicities, languages and religions still exist in India.
Britisher's biggest blunder!
Westerns are still ignorant so was this video guy. Small mistakes in each and every facts he put on.
Also, by this video any sane person can understand that who was the 'aggressor' in almost all wars. India just reacted to Pakistan's actions. If India acted first, Pakistani won't have a chance to properly react.
The guy sounds absolutely stupid. Looks like another British brainwashed citizen who was fed curated history about the so called glorious past of the British who were the messiah of the world.😅😆
western propaganda target hindus support islamist
I hope they start calling this country as Hindu nation, chuslims have no right to live here for that reason.
British deliberately did it.
If u study the politics of india and Pakistan, there's a huge difference, india always wanted to be a secular prosperous state and Pakistan always wanted to be an Islamic Republic.
They both succeded, india doing well independently and indians doing good in every sectors all around the world.
Pakistan also doing good in global jihad and terrorism, must not forget ISIS got most of It's weapon, training and funds from Pakistan.
US
Isis 😂 what are u smoking and Pakistan isn't Islamic at all
@@blacksheep6174 hence her official name is " islamic Republic of Pakistan "
First of all, ISIS got Its training and weapons from the US. Second of all, India is being turned into a Hindu state by Modi and BJP and Hindutva
@@tonyantonio8956How did ISIS get training from pakistan when it is operating in iraq and syria lmao?
During 65 war there were territorial changes . Indian soldiers were almost at Lahore when ceasefire was announced and US being US , asked both countries to pull back to their original borders . Only because its adorable ally Pakistan was at the losing end .
Indian forces were stopped and instead Pakistan started advancing into Indian territory. India never gained any territory in any war whatsoever. 47, lost half of Kashmir. 65 was stalemate with Indian suffering heavy casualties dispute being 5 times Pakistan forces. 71 even though Bangladesh gained independence, india still never gained any territory instead lost some on western front such as Chamb sector. So get your facts right.
All wars were started by Pakistan. So instead of saying india didn't gain territory, you should say it the other way, that Pakistan didn't gain any territory. We didn't start wars with intention to invade and grab land.
Remember kargil war? The unnecessary war started by Pakistan to grab kargil from India, well kargil is still a Shia majority town in india.
😂India doesn't want any Pakistani territory, you've turned it all to shit
@@syedhasnain2192 where did you take history classes, mate?
@@abysscreation4819 ask your mother, she gave me all the education😂😂. I’m from chamb AJK which was taken from india in 1971😭😂😭
@@syedhasnain2192 lol yeah Pakistan started advancing when American think tank clearly stated that Pakistan is only left with 1 day of resources. I guess Pakistan magically made resources out of thin air.
Pakistan is the only country that attacks and then wins by defending … bravo
And where are you data from ? That Australian newspaper heading ? Lol
I guess we need to educate Pakistanis in difference between “war” and “battle”
Pakistani objective was taking entire Kashmir . Do you guys have it ?
You attacked a princely state without Indian forces there and took it and prepared defensive grounds , yet you guys were on backfoot.
With best tanks and jets of that era , even smallest of countries can win wars but not Pakistani . It goes to show how pathetic you military forces are . Imagine boasting about only one sector and yet being bad at it
I will admit India has slipped sometimes such as when they had an authoritarian government under Indira Gandhi but I would still root for India in the event of conflict with Pakistan
In India you've had non Hindus become, billionaires, celebrities, government officials and military servicemen leaders
You cannot do the same in Pakistan. Over there non Muslims are officially recognized by the central government of Islamabad as not people but instead a only ever afforded a condescending tolerance and thats on a good day
Pakistani textbooks teach hatred for hindus. This country's whole existence is based on anti-india sentiments. It has nothing else to do or offer to the world. It even disowned and cursed its only noble laureate in science in the name of islam.
False
My Slovenia 🇸🇮 is the best
Pakistan has.
Top fashion designer: deepak perwani (Hindu)
Top musician: shallum xavier (Christian)
These are the prominent few, there is a long list.
Kindly avoid spreading misinformation i know you're fond indian supporter but you better know facts before you can speak out publicly.
@@farissyed4564 Pakistan also has asia Bibi who was charged with blasphemy
@@yashasvisingh6694 there are certain laws in place that everyone has to respect including muslims. But the aforementioned comment is not on that.
Perfect lunch break video
Same actually
Fr lol
for me it's 3AM
Hahaha I was just thinking the same
I am about to sleep 😊😅
Major correction- The Indus water treaty gives Pakistan 70% of the water flowing from the Indus river tributaries in terms of volume, the number of tributaries are divided equally but the tributaries given to Pakistan hold a significantly higher amount of water, leading to droughts in the Indian region.
**80% but of no use for poor paxtan.
Because Indus river has historically always flown through modern day Pakistan, clown.
As Indians ,we are careful about Pakistan but we are more increasingly worried about China's role if war breaks out between the 2 countries and the possibility of all out 2 front war 🤔.
Would like an analysis between India and china war ,though unlikely but possible because of increasing Chinese incursions .
By the way , this was a very good and easy analysis of the complex issue 👍
2 and 1/2 front war
It's funny to think that Bangladesh stay out if it it's Muslim country and they have radicalised people and they still infiltrating in India and people inside India also radicalised specially muslims
If China were to intervene, I'm sure the U.S would as well.
China will not be involved directly whatsoever.
If a war breaks out, the possible chances for China jumping in the war is 0-20% because according to the estimations and officials China is planning to invade Taiwan which does not seem good if he also jumps in this unwanted war.
In the 1971 war, U.S.A and U.K had come to fight with India from Pakistan's side and was also supporting Pakistan's genocide in United nations. India got 93000 Pakistani soldiers surrendered even after U.S. and U.K came. Because USSR supported that Time INDIA.
The year is 2023 not 1971
@@debater452 yup this is 2023, not '71. This time probably 593000 will surrender just to get some free aata
Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan Bangladesh is a Muslims country alhamdulillah
@@debater452that's what India is war more powerful and stronger
Russia>America or White ass british
This conflict is the perfect example of how nuclear deterrence and MAD paradoxically prevents large scale wars and destruction better than any treaties or economic integration or other incentives could.
Nuclear weapons have probably saved millions of lives. There are so many wars that didn't happen because of one of the Nuclear powers intervention.
Yeah, until it doesn’t. Fingers crossed that day never comes.
@@KJ-in4gzFriend, politicians and army personnels are not suicidal
@@naveedhasan5365unless backed into a corner.
India is already ruled by parties who have dangerous rhetoric. And they are considered moderate. Pakistan ain't different either.
I doubt Pakistan will ever start any war, they'd be rolled in a conventional war. India one day might try to exploit Pakistan's weakness under a different administration. Pakistan has first strike doctrine I think. Moment something bad happens, such as critical infrastructure hit or communication is cut off (which a component military would do as a first thing) they'll most likely launch the nukes. Anyone in their position would.
Nowadays Putin for example, if pushed out of Ukraine completely and threatened with his own or family's lives would most likely push button for smaller attacks. Why not, he and his family is going to die, what left for him?
Nevermind rogue nations getting nukes, like NK did. Israel losing militarily and getting pushed would push the button too, it's literally their doctrine.
So, sleep well, someone mad like Hitler would have pushed the button. Or some idiot US president would have let McArthur nuke China. We are lucky to not live in Fallout world, shouldn't take it for granted.
That’s what they were saying before WW1 about the force amassed. Look how that turned out.
We’re all doomed. Oh, the politicians who order this will be okay for a while, but all of us who have no control over these things? Yeah, no chance.
As a Pakistani, trust me we don't want a war on the contrary our survival is now dependent on our relations with India. If we aren't able to work things out with them our economic troubles will eventually break our country.
Foreigners are more concerned about war between us than ourself.
🤡🤡🤡
Species like u r rare in Pakistan..!
Ohhh, u r living in USA, that's why u talks sense.!
You're not a pakistani You're an indian
@@muhammadroshaanzaib639 how you know that ??
@@pkmishra6763 coz he praised india 🤣🤣
One correction Simon,
The "Cold Start Doctrine" genesis lies in the 1987 Operation Brasstacks, conducted under the Indian Army COAS General KV Krishna Rao. It was put on hold in the 90s but in 2001 after Indian Parliament Terror Attack, India mobilized over 700k Troops along the International Border, but it took nearly 2 months to achieve the offensive posturing while Pakistan managed to mobilize 300k of its own troops. After Months of Skirmishes and Artillery Duels, India had to back down (under US Pressure). India's performance in the 2001-02 Border Standoff with Pakistan (codename: Operation Parakram), forced the Indian Armed Forces to re evaluate their strategy and restart the Cold Start Doctrine.
Can we talk about this matter if you don't mind?
I would love to know more about this.
By the way Simon not to sound like a Hindu ultranationalist or British apologist but the idea of partition itself was explicitly stated by Mohammed Jinnah for Pakistan
No not. The idea was prevalent even before Jinnah. Both ulta o se Hindus and Muslims
@@naveedhasan5365 that's not true, Hindus opposed the idea of partition.
@@BeE_AriyaN not true. Hindu nationalists wanted that too and make the hindu nation.
@@naveedhasan5365 nope, they were against partition, why would the hindus want to partition their ancestral holy land
@@naveedhasan5365 keep lying to yourself. There was only one side of the partition making decisions based purely on religion.....its the same aide that continues to be a religiously driven despotic country to this day.
India: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man???
Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land, azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
@@Randomhandlename indian muslims are indian and patriotic. your muslims arent as sold out as indians.
@@saumyadave7040 what matters is Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land, azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
@@saumyadave7040 and there’s nothing your Bollywood dancing military can do about it
@Find Out I guess you haven't eaten for the days, that's why you are talking this shit..should we send some food to Pakistan??
Fun fact*
Andaman and nicobar islands,Laksdweep islands are part of India.
No one ask lol
Can I make a recommendation? When mentioning numbers, could you portray them on the video as well? It would make following easier.
I don't think people who can't afford petrol or wheat can afford a war.
You would be surprised...
That's goes for both sides lol
@@widodoakrom3938 india is not suffering from economy crises.
Ya it gdp per capita is low.
But wheat and petrol lol man
@@widodoakrom3938that's why general knowledge is important kid
@@marcosbradanovic9100surprised? They lost all wars against india ..which surprise you are talking about ?
If they try again... they will be wiped out from the World map 😂
In his view , British are so generous....😂. ....
He sounds so funny.....
True .....UK is the parasite who can't survive without a host.....
Ya ,😂😂
Sorry Britain just exploited the fault lines which existed earlier
@@naveedhasan5365 absolutely..
IF THE BRITISH THOUGHT WE DON'T KNOW THEIR LANGUAGE AND WE ARE ILLITERATE,THEN WHY SHOULD NOT WE SPEAK IN HINDI AND CALL THEM ILLITERATE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY?
I really wonder if the team behind this video has real world military expertise and experience 😂😂😂
though I think India would win, they'd take heavy casualties because of Pakistan's mountains...
As an Indian, let's hope this war never happens and our relationship with Pakistan improves over time, and we live with each other as friends, not enemies 😊
we also want this type of thing but sadly your politicians would be jobless bcz of this friendship. Your politicians and media would never want this to happen.
@@bilaledits5513 But what is the main reason to attack us? Why do you want it?
@@bilaledits5513same goes for your country they have nothing better to do then to bash indian government you should instead focus on improving your economic stability and military dictatorship that is happening in your country nobody wants to have good relationship with your country because of the horror past that your country carries with cold blooded terrorism.
@@bilaledits5513I am not saying that with a position of hate against your country I just want to see stability in south asia.
BJP think otherwise
Both nations want to avoid war, as the result of nuclear exchange is obviously the end of both nations. So even a(nother) border skirmish is extremely unlikely to escalate far beyond that. Both nations have extensive political connections to prevent such a war.
Also the Rutgers study that claims "2 billion" would die from India Pakistan nuclear war was flawed as it models things like volcanic eruptions to simulate climate shifts following a nuclear war. The soot ejected by volcanoes does not quite aerosol the same way as soot ejected by nuclear strikes. Lastly the "2 billion" figure requires 250 100kt bombs which not even India + Pakistan combined have. Both India and Pakistan's delivery systems each cap out at about 40 kt each.
The "2 billion die if they go to war" is not only factually wrong, it's blatant scaremongering disinformation. You don't have to lie about nuclear war for people to understand that it's really, really bad.
When he mentioned nuclear winter I laughed out loud.
This is quite an oversight, do you have a link to said study?
Nukes are highly overrated in public perception. They have very little practical applications, except as a deterrent to other nuclear powers. Even if used while locally devastating once outside the radius of total destruction rapidly diminishing effects. The real casualties would occur indirectly.
I haven't seen much of the video yet, I came to the comments right away but I could personally see it being somewhere close to that bad. It's not that the nukes would do it, they'd kill a ton of people for sure but also the destabilization, rioting, famine and disease that come with disasters of that level, refugee crisis (That's a lot of people moving to next door countries) and then frequently criminal organizations rise to power and that can be a problem for decades. 2 billion is a bit overzealous I think but it would be a ludicrous amount of people. death on a scale humans have never seen before.
@@procopiusaugustus6231 I think they would work better as a deterrent to y non nuclear powers. But even then not very much, Ukraine does not appear to be very deterred.
India should never fight Pakistan. It would be like a young inspiring man get bitten by a rabid dog in the 18th century. Dog would perish but so would the young fine man.
You know I agree with you that Pakistan is rabid Dog and you should shoot that instead of fighting barehanded (
Lol
First of all your analogy is wrong. Pakistan isn’t rabbit dog but more like Hyena
India is supposed to be inspiring? Is that why it's still a 3rd world cesspit and ranked 107 out of 122 countries in the world on it's hunger index?
@@naveedhasan5365 yup infected with rabies
FALSE!! Indus Water Treaty of 1960: The treaty gives India 20% of the water from the Indus River System and the rest 80% to Pakistan. IT IS NOT DIVIDED EQUALLY AS MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO!
This video is all about how to condense the Mariana Trench and reduce it to the size of a puddle. So many key details are left out that it's baffling.
The world - OMG India and Pakistan would go to war.
Meanwhile Indians - BC yahan garmi ke mausam mein baarish, saala cooler nikaale ya barsati? Gambhir aur Kohli fir lad liye.. 😂
(Why is it raining in summers, should we take out our coolers or raincoats? Gambhir and Kohli quarrelled again after an IPL match.)😂
Wtf bro 😂😂
wtf bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You just killed the mood mate
So true bro
Wtf brooo🤣🤣🤣
My grandfather, and grandmother were both about 10 when the partition happened. Neither of them spoke much about it. Both of them were orphans, raised by missionaries. My grandfather told me one story. He used to have to take the train from Lahore, to Agra (Pakistan to India) for boarding school. He would pretend to be blind and sell tea on the trains so they would leave him alone. He told me he passed so many trains that had been burned filled with people, and he could never forget the smell.
Then You & grandfather better to live in Pakistan, we have a good Dog's to feed .
@@RoshanAntonyTauro Bar dancer Sonia 🤣
@@DBOSS282Racist much?
Bro his grandfather did not liked Pakistan. TF is wrong with you?@@DBOSS282
India going between India and Pakistan
West: Money 💰 Money 💰
China: here they go again.
How come the newer Pakistani weapons platforms weren’t mentioned such as the J10 and Al Khalid tanks in the fighter jet and tanks discussion?
Pin this please
Recently a renowned Pakistani journalist hamid mir said that there ex army chief told them that Pakistani army can never afford a war with india
Yes yes let’s make one man a consensus but what matters is alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan and there’s nothing Bollywood dancing Indian military can do about it
@@RandomhandlenameLets go bro you got him.Mashallah ❤️
There is no such thing as peace when dealing with Islam
It's not the religion but the extremists within it.
@@jrmckim The religion was created by a warlord. It advocates violence.
ahh, really? try to say it to my face
Who colonized this whole planet? Say western imperialism
@@AmirSatt no problem
The water treaty is not equal India only uses 20% of the water and Pakistan uses 80%. This is the issue which is to be settled with the new water treaty. Love your videos by the way.
That river is flowing through india and that statement is made by nehru gandu.
Once india build a dam over the river and use it to our people then it's good enough to see a nation be in dehydration for his ak47 peaceful
@@eternal1967 keep dreaming andh bhakht 😂
@@x1avenger
Ok andhnamzi , we shouldn't dream about it as it's happening 😂😂 haven't u seen that modi government's national advisor, the baap of Pakistan ( indian spy dowal ) has made a statement to build a dam over India's river and central government agreed.
Plus I'm a desh bhakt that your mom didn't give 😂
@@x1avengerdreaming? Abe madarsachap...Pani rok diya na toh bheek mango ke india se Pani ke liye bhi 😂😂
@@x1avenger aata hai 😂😂
Pakistan will need new maps but this time even less ink will do the job😅😅
Keyboard warrior 😅
Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land, azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
@@Randomhandlename so you agree kashmir, pakistan and Bangladesh is Indian land?
Very interesting
@@kartikeykasniya6971 of course I don’t have a problem as long as we Muslims have it alhamdulillah
@@Randomhandlename what do you mean by we? You consider muslims to be collectively one?
12:05 you've shown this clip twice in the video. it's actually an Egyptian military squad participating during India's republic day parade. but we got the essence
That's what happens when you are focused on getting Indian audiences and rushing to conclusions. Poor research as a result.
Not now, India/Pakistan, we’re kind of busy.
right now Punjab is becoming increasingly similar to Kashmir because they have also been exploited by the Indian Government a lot ever since the partition
So u also want to join Pakistan?
@@YourFuhrer1933 Pakistan and China will help the sikhs fight Indian opression
@@bikramjeetbrar7470lmao I am not sure Sikhs are gonna fight tho😂 and china don't care about Sikhs or muslims
Recently a pak army general said we don't have fuel for our tanks🗿
Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan what is your Bollywood army going to do? Dance?
@@Randomhandlename you are too much blinded by the religion that you can't even understand that if Indian land is dived in those countries so the people living their also in some way are indians. By Indians i mean culturally and civilizationally which is something you can't comprehend.
@Shaurya Aggarwal alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan, Indians surrendered their land to Muslims where’s the Bollywood army what are they going to do about Muslims having azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan? Nothing sit down this not Bollywood
Simple just buy some oil in middle east country
@Shaurya Aggarwal kooomar what matters is Bangladesh is a Muslim country and alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan what are you going to do about it? Nothing, you can only go to westerners and cry like you did when azad kashmir was taken by Muslims
1:30 - Chapter 1 - The knife edge
7:05 - Chapter 2 - The spark
10:35 - Chapter 3 - Weighing the odds
12:45 - Chapter 4 - Armageddon
Indus Water treaty, didn't distribute the water equally. The treaty gave 80% water to Pakistan and 20% to India
Indus water should be for pakistan not india because indus Valley is in pakistan
@@khaldrogo4460 lol, 😂. Indus Valley was Found in Punjab (which is divided in both countries) so Technically Both Punjab's Should get 50% of water share by your logic
Splendid Video, However aside from the obvious misconception of Hindu India, There is a LOT of history when speaking about partition as you said. Politics was at play not only by UK, but USSR, USA and even Indian Politicians. It's much too complicated but whatever happened was done intentionally. Keep Up the good work
I found this Warographics episode to be extremely light on actual content and insight. It was dissapinting and not up to Simon's usual standards with these types of releases.
You expected all the intricacies of the problem between india and Pakistan in 15 minutes video. Really? More than 20 hours of video needed to understand
@Naveed Hasan I did not expect the intricacies and history of the India/Pakistan problem to be explained in a 15 minute video. I dare say the 20 hours you mentioned might not be enough to fully comprehend everything regarding this.
Did I say in my comment that I expected to wholly understand the subject of the video? No. I just found it to be lacking in areas compared to some of Simon's other content.
I have a dilettante's knowledge of the subject here, and was just hoping for maybe an extra nugget of information.
Your assumption is incorrect.
I suggest that, just as Americans don't like to own up to their actions, Simon wouldn't be so eager to point out the British tactic of divide and rule. Those simmering tensions and deliberately unresolved issues would of course lead to a mess.
@@naveedhasan5365 In 75 Years, India & Pak Are Still Figuring Out. Who Is Making Us Fight Among Each Other.😂 Together, We Can Grow Faster.😂
@@KararaJawaab try explaining that to the pakistani govt/military/rulers which teaches bigotry against Hindus & Jews to its children 😐
When Russia attacks Ukraine you call it an invasion but when Pakistan attacks India you say India and Pakistan went to war as if it was some sort of mutually agreed play-date. Why?
Invasion mean attacking and occupying their land, pak-indo was a war because no one got to capture the other land.
Edit: also Russian never officially declared war on Ukraine.
Which one?
You are not white enough
@@erichhere valid reason
Guess I will go home
@@sarcastically_hopeful Pakistan would attack and occupy Indian territory and get beaten back. By your own definition it's an invasion. Also, Pakistan never officially declared war either.
9023 AD: Archeologists will say 'there used to be a country called Pakistan here"!
During the cold war many times more nukes were tested/fired than are in the combined arsenals of India and Pakistan. Didn't cause an ice age.
How he justifies that British were really worried about what would happen. Lol. Brits wanted India to fail, and set us up by dividing us!
No they wanted India to succeed so that they could continue to trade with them...
The UK imports billions of pounds worth of trade goods from India every year.
Nah, India succeeding was always on the books. It was expecting Pakistan to fail, disintegrate and be annexed back into India
Indian civilization is ancient and a big threat to the west.
They will do any dirty tactics to keep india down.
The only other civilizations who could potentially pose a threat are China, ottomans (turkey), Russia, and Persia (iran)
@@MrGamingCookie This is your ignorance speaking. Try to read history from a neutral standpoint.
13:07 its not the mumbai attacks its the parliament attacks you are wrong here
"The british feared it would lead to chaos" bro they started the chaos and split in order to weaken India. The map was drawn by a person who never set foot in India.
For a comprehensive report from pre-independance till future conflict you have put together a great educational video. Thanks.
One can only add ones thoughts or back one of your presumptions.
People (globally) forget the Pak Occupied Kashmir region is hilly and forested and there will be barely a few km of gains unless the present inflationary circumstances cause the local population to revolt en masse.
Spectacular gains (due to perceived armoured superiority) mean nothing in the Central sector (Rajasthan/Punjab) as the lines of the IB would have to be abided by, post the ceasefire- so to retain the gains, India would have to ensure that politically Pakistan did not exist as a nation but as 4 or 5 new nations. So India would not only have to work with (say the US) to secure the Pak nuclear arsenal BUT also work on creating 4 or 5 potential regional satraps who would step in and create the 'new nations' before the nukes go off or a ceasefire undoes all of what gains India is assumed to have made by D7.
India hasn't been particularly brilliant in handling the last air battle by the Kashmir region, amplified by the inability to predict, let alone stop, the 27 fighters that raised Indian in the morning after Balakote. And then to lose a pilot behind enemy lines who disregarded the billion dollar AWACs... This display of lack of vision and utter disregard to the multiple billions spent on modernisation (if pilots continue to disregard and not listen to AWACs) does not look good for India.
Small and 'little' as Pak may seem, India has always lost territory where it counted in 65 and 71 before it's logistical might bailed it out. Akhnoor, Chhamb- Jaurian being a prime example.
India seems not to realise that they gave up 90000 POWs - because in part the Pak Forces were at the Akhnoor bridge (1971) and held the entire region north(Rajouri, Bhimber, Poonch) hostage.
I have tremendous faith in the bravery and spirit of Indian Armed Forces, who would be on the line, but it's when the leadership crosses the ranks of Colonel and moves above that the leadership becomes suspect.
Pakistan may be whatever, their men in uniform have always been upto a good fight and I don't see anything ending quick in the next round.
A quick exchange of nuclear weapons (say 5 or 6 detonations) would as you say rightly be something more worrisome than any reason to go to war in the first place.
Good write up. Cheers.
“In depth...” *only 15 minutes in length*
You're forgetting the 29 seconds...
@@jrmckim Heavens you’re right. That last bit of fade out noise in pertinent.
Pakistan would lose all conventional battles and be forced to either use thier nuclear weapons OR encourage China to intervene directly...this conflict is one of the nightmare things we have to live with, sadly
Alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land, azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
And that's why it's important for a weaker nation to have nukes against India because just like Russia is a threat to Ukraine, India is a threat to Pakistan.
Pakistan is ranked 7th most powerful military on the planet according to global fire power, so the way you just say that Pakistan will lose so easily it's quite surprising.
Aata leke aa
Based on my understanding of Chinese military power, and the geography, China wouldn't be of help to Pakistan anytime soon.
civil war wouldve been bliss compared to what actually happened during partition
Reality: No one will win
But humanity will lose
Good intro to the problem but definitely one that can be explored so much more. From partition and the genocide that followed, to the Kashmir issue, to the military situation, to Pakistan's instability and the Chinese threat, each of those elements have so many intricacies that hopefully we can see more videos on in the future.
U should first learn about the ancient Kashmir... About its beautiful culture and tradition. About Kashmir's religion. How it gave the world many the mathamatics and zero and texts. And how radical muslims destroyed it.
Yea as if Kashmiris are not Muslims but what matters is alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
We see how muslims were killing muslims in Bangladesh genocide in 1971. You are not brothers, but fought like rabid dogs. Bangladesh is developing and a good nation, Pakistanis are poor and less smart. Good thing
This guy knows how to build an audience.
The recent one retired army chief of Pakistan said we dont have fuel for tanks forget about war
It's really commendable that you dared to make this video with such shallow knowledge about almost everything you tried to discuss. Kudos 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sir, war breaking out between India and Pakistan is far less likely at present than one in Europe. And the first nuclear winter would almost invariably start from that continent.
The explanation of why the British separated India into Muslim and Hindo is total bs.
Please u tube channels don't compare India with Pakistan hereafter...please realise the reality.....
For me It’s the fear that a comprehensive economic collapse could force a government to seek war as a way of uniting the population - it’s hardly a new idea - and then you either have preemptive nuclear strikes or the escalation that leads to nuclear strikes.
Population won't be listening as they are in dire need of essential supplies. Also, war drains money and resources which Pakistan already lacks severely at the moment. So any illogical step from Pakistan would be fatal for the country.
Are you really blind ? Sri Lanka just went through an economic collapse yet they didn't commit to any war , this western perspective of intervention and war imposed history is a very skewed way of seeing other non western countries
Looking back at our records and the current military equipment India would be changing the world map as it did previously in 1971
@Rehan Sheikh If you have seen the above video you must know how much outclassed Pakistan actually is
And the difference between both the Nations is that on the same day when Pakistani Prime minister was telling his people that he is looking into wheat shortage problem
Indian Prime minister was congratulating ISRO for the successful launch of 36 British satellites
@Rehan Sheikh a brown hand wrote that...
Please don’t try this time
@@naveedhasan5365 As long as you don't stop terrorism it will happen eventually
@@yashasvisingh6694 this analysis was retarded at best. It ignore NASR tactical nukes, as well as the fact that Pakistans VT4 tanks are more advanced than anything india fields rn
June going into August this year all has been revealed and recalled over and over again
As a Pakistani, Pakistan would fall quickly if it started a war with India (again).
You don’t know that only Allah knows future alhamdulillah we Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
@@Randomhandlename You've been fed misinformation by the Pak army since you were a child in matric, and you are clearly wrong ✋ Look up the truth online and see doe yourself what our great Pakistan has accomplished over the past 75 years LOL. 4 wars, all objective losses. Instrument of Surrender signed by Niazi in '71 after committing genocide in Bangladesh with American support. I can go on and on and on. Look for the truth or else you will continue to live your life in lies. This is your test.
@@Randomhandlename 🤡🤡🤡bro spamming same thing
@@Randomhandlenamelol again?
Oye bot get a life.....₹2 ke liye gaaliya kha raha sabki 😂😂
You're an indian not pakistani stop
Indus water treaty States pakishtan could use 80 percent of the water
Not 50-50 between India and pakisthan.
He doesn’t know anything india will invade pakistan. Its 21st century no one can invade anyone things will go on like they are going now. Until unless war broke out in europe then ww3 will start
😂😂😂😂😂 river length ke hisaab se UN rule lagu hote hain
Indians have a habit of lying.. The treaty is widely available on the internet.. and half of the rivers Pakistan had to have India build dams on them…This arm twisting will lead to war which will hurt billions of innocent people.
@@abdulgaffarchowdhury5255 don't worry. Pork become disintegrate soon. Then we will take water as much we need
@@syhuhjk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Unless the nukes start flying India is clappin cheeks
If nukes starts flying... US will definitely get involved, possibly Nato too. India don't have do anything.
Recent skirmishes don’t show that and I’m not talking about decades ago.
Just search 2019 Pakistan India border skirmishes
@@Sahd079 Those were skirmishes not wars see the equipment on both sides
@@yashasvisingh6694 you can’t fight with everything you have in Kashmir if you have ever been there you would know
Can you also make a video on a nuclear war between US and Russia?
Waraghpaics:
1.Asks a question
2.Fills you with existential dread
3.Proceed to debunk that and say all is fine and the odds of that happening are close to none
Kuzkurgatz : i see you are a man of culture as well
As much as the video was great, the reason for partition as always has been mis represented by western channels, indian founding fathers categorically rejected the idea that as pakistan was created on the basis of religion (which actually was the demand of a single party and person i.e jinnah) that what remained shall be a hindu state, india was founded as secular nation for all religions cultures, languages and castes. At the time of independence more muslims decided to live in india than move to pakistan, india still had a greater number pf muslims than pakistan till very recently when pakistan surpassed because of its higher birth ratio and as far as idea goes that religion was biggest problem and not culture, look what happened 24 years after that, bangladesh won its indenpendence after a bloody struggle as even they rejected the idea that a nation can be built solely on the concept of religion
Yeah except modi is basically making india into a one religion state.
@@nimanbains7034 - Modi has been ruling the whole India almost in last 10 years, India remain a secular nation and Muslim population in India increased in last 10 years. Muslims received more scholarships in higher education and jobs . Idiot like you are indulging in Modi bashing to satisfy your ego.
@@nimanbains7034 Yeah except it not that easy and he hasn't been able to do that yet.
@@nimanbains7034 Christians have 50+ Christians country
Muslims have 50+ Muslim countries
Hindus have only 1.
@The Master mind It was the brits who divided Bengal and the Muslim leaders supported them. Don't lump all your problems on India just because we are not muslims.
Ami Bangali ar ami Bengal er partition ke support kori😉.
India has access to one of the most powerful militaries in the world.
Pakistan's military could be charitably described as "out dated."
Lol what a joke
Honestly asking for flak with that comment chief.
Because it's fueled by religion, if another major war were to break out, I could see other Islamic nations backing Pakistan.
The same military that sunk its own submarine because someone forgot to close the hatch?
@@jrmckim Islamic solidarity is a facade specially when those Muslim countries have a lot to gain from India.
We had the Mahabharat war
The Aihole inscription of Pulakeshin II, dated to Saka 556 = 634 CE, claims that 3735 years have elapsed since the Bharata battle, putting the date of Mahābhārata war at 3137 BCE.
Concept of Bharat was thousands of years old.
Ww1 brit promised independence. Reneged.
WW2 brit promised independence. Was thinking to renege again. The navy put their boot up their pearly white derriere s.
They left.
Ah...the age old British strategy of divide and rule classicaly explained by a Brit as a "mere inability of the newly formed and obviously inferior people to govern themsleves". They ruled the subcontinent for 200 years without a major hindu muslim conflict for hells sake.
What rational person would create a country with 2 parts on either sides of Another huge country with no direct land connection between those parts, and hope all will go well....They wanted an unstable subcontinent and they got it....
The only comfort for me is that i got to be on the side which is better off for now...
The Middle East is another place. While Jewish people were second class citizens, prior to British rule people co-existed - Jews, Coptic Christians, and Muslims. Today's radical Islam actually got it's start under British rule.
Maybe it wasn't the best way to deal with Indian independence, but blaming the British alone is lazy. The subcontinent wanted independence and they got it fairly quickly after the end of WWII. At some point, the native people need to take some sense of responsibility to make sure the transition is smooth. Rather than expecting their "parent" to hold their hand after being told to go away
@@EvenWaysMusic you didn't know the history the person who divided India and Pakistan didn't even know about cultural,area and etc.
He just drawed lines.
sindh was A Hindu dominated state but redcliffe give sindh to Pakistan because he felt that sindh should be given to Pakistan what the fuck he Felt destroyed thousands of life.
Don't be stupid. Hindus and Muslims always fought each other since 1191. When Ghori attacked and fought Prithviraj Chauhan. After that it continued for centuries. Many hindu kings fought for hindus like Rana Kumbha, Rana Pratap, Harihar and Bukkaray, Shivaji Maharaj. Because Muslim kings always oppressed hindu community.
If you are saying that Battles fought in the name of kings is equalent to the riots in the name of religion, Then you must be delusional...Those were territorial and resource wars. The Mongols attacked Europe not to convert, but to plunder.
Even the English came to India to plunder first, convert was just another side mission they had to complete to get support from the home base
There were wars in India even before gods of christians and muslims were even born. That doesnt mean India should be fractured along all the boundaries of those kings
We had a similar scenario as an emergency resolution in model UN once . Seemed very serious.
Do you kids want to be like the real UN? Or do you just wanna squabble and waste time?
existed for only 75 years?? yeah true for pakistan but India ( Bharat) has existed for thousands of years, even when there was not a concept of countries & different kings rules different kingdoms, the whole sub continent was collectively known as bharat it even in our scriptures.
So ?
UNTRUE. the land as you now know as India is 75 years old. Prior to that it included Bangladesh and Pakistan as well brother.
@@Warlock786 India is eternal. Pakistan is a colonial project created to secure Western interests in the region - just like Israel. Pakistan Army are basically hired goons of the West and USA.
probably like the last one a realativly small nasty border war, probably like the kargil war in 1999 with the slight chance china might start a limited border incursion to help pakistan.
Can you do Kargil and it's impact
Biggest impact till this day is alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan and there’s nothing their Bollywood dancing military can do
If I recall the conflict itself is so highly anticipated by both governments that diplomatic machinery between the two is very connected
The Highly Anticipated War of the Season!
INDIA VS PAKISTAN!
WHATS THIS?! THIS IS CHINA'S MUSIC!
@@idleishde6124 I hate that there are some things that you just hear in a specific voice. I'm now picturing the nation of China holding a giant steel chair.
@@Kevin-hp5fk there is only true king usa. If eagle comes the pig will run. Paper dragon will collapse
It actually reminds me of the book World War Z. In the book, they even say the two sides are connected to instantly talk and de-escalate. Though it also points out that because of that, its not India and Pakistan that first use nukes on each other. But Pakistan and Iran.
@@idleishde6124 Dammit, now I’m just imagining China entering the ring and Stone Cold Stunning an exhausted India. Then Pakistan goes to thank China and China Stuns them too.
There's a small correction in your video. India always stood as a secular country while across the broder it was different. Also, please keep in mind the escalation and cross border strikes done by army and air force in response to the terrorist attacks done by Pakistan.
What is the proof for your empty statement about Pakistan doing it?
@@Randomhandlename there are plenty of resources available, you can find yourselves if you wish.
@@krishna_ms give me one credible source which gives irrefutable evidence
@@Randomhandlename See mate, I have clearly stated my response above. When there are plenty of resources available, it doesn't make any sense of wasting time here.
For your reference, the person who planned the Mumbai attack is from Pakistan. Also, Pak is on the grey list under the financial task force due to terror funding.
If you want, resources are available on how well the country is promoting all these.
@@krishna_ms yet you can’t provide one source, lovely
Both have nukes pointing at each other. What joy.
2:09 British feared ??
" divide and rule" their strategy
I know. India and Pakistan isn’t for them
Yep. And if India or Pakistan should learn anything from the British it is to subvert the other the way the British did. More effective than any nuke.
I don't know how this war will start, but i can tell once it ends one nation will cease to exist and you know which one🙂
This is not Bollywood alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
And there’s nothing your Bollywood army can do to take these lands back from Muslims they can only dream like you alhamdulillah
@Findout 1971 pre-war, muslims in bangladesh were only having fun with with their so called defenders.3 million was it?
@@atulsinha3929 what matters is alhamdulillah Bangladesh is a Muslim country and alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
@@Randomhandlename Pakistan can't afford a War right now, their economy is doomed.
the main point to focus is also that what will be china action on this war. will it be a 2 front war threat for india, bcz recently chinese troops are escalating towards india for there disputed regions.
China involvement in this war could turn the table around.
i think there shall be peace bcz all three countries are too much powerful, any war could result in billion+ of casualties from all the sides.
this war could have effects far beyond the borders, this could also lead to ww3, which no body wants.
Simon, you should do a TopTenz on the times when the British arbitrarily created/divided countries with no real perspective of the affected populations.
To be fair in many situations there wasn't a clear way to divide countries and in some cases the divisions were along pre existing internal borders and most countries don't draft internal borders to make them effective coujtries on their own (just look at virtually every US and Canadian state/province border). In many places like Africa and the Middle East there hadn't been individual countries and the ethnic/religious/tribal borders were muddy at best and borders before colonialism were extremely vague, modern maps of those coujtries are often just vague blobs or involve gradients since control was rarely defined with any accuracy and control was often even more vague (Afghanistan for example has borders similar to what it had before their wars with the UK but the king rarely had much control outside of a few major cities with the various tribes controlling most of the country). Its arguable that if the British did want to divide the Indian sub continent breaking the region up to its pre colonial borders would work even better since that would leave the region divided and squabbling, and they'd be unable to effectively defend themselves against Chinese imperialism or neocolonialism like they are today.
Lovely video but you forgot to mention how the British screwed the partition process because they are trying to run from India as soon as possible. I hope you will make another video mentioning this or maybe dive deeper into this.
Not true. I am from that area and I know that’s false. Yeah british exploited the fault line but if that wasn’t there to begin with then they couldn’t
He already made a video on it. Basically trying to settle an argument between Hindus and Muslims was like dealing with children. The UK did the best they could with what they had, squabbling children who don't agree on anything because they believe in different invisible space wizards.
India wanted independence and they got it fairly quickly. You can't blame the British when you told them to go away and then not take responsibility to make sure the transition goes smoothly
@@EvenWaysMusic The problem is how the British handled the partition process. Because the British drew the borders not the people who were living there and didn't understand the way India was operating that time. The person who drew the border didn't do the proper survey and did the border in just 5 weeks. Radcliffe never visited India before the partition was decided. And I agree that there was no proper way to divide the nation that could make both countries happy but there was a proper way to reduce violence and death it caused.
The partition is a really complex topic. You can't do it justice during a minute summary on a different topic. Its hard to do it justice in dedicated videos. There is so much that happened and so many people involved and so much blame thrown around and so much that it resulted in.
In the words of the great Hershel Krustovski.... ' what's the difference between Pakistan and a pancake??....
I don't know any pancakes that got NUKED BY INDIA!!"
Got nuked? Really? I really hate to see what happens after india did that
@@naveedhasan5365 what? India is bigger than Pakistan and unlike you we have ballistic missiles defense shield (only 4 or 5 countries has it and Pakistan is not one of them) you guy can't even detect brahmos that landed in your territory 😂😂😂
@@naveedhasan5365 Don't know, Pakistan as a nation state will cease to exist , with only a couple million people left alive
While India could loose a billion people but still survive as a Nation.
@@naveedhasan5365 yes can’t bear to see Pakistan then can you 😂😂😂
@@thebestevertherewas pakistan have the capability to strike 2nd
Partition days, human disaster, several trains filled with bodies of sikhs and hindus were transported to Indian border.
Never found in the history of the world, such tragedy.
Half information is incorrect 👍
Wars and rumors of wars
Finally a topic that I wanted Warographics to cover!
In the start, where you have shown Indian troops marching - that was actually the marching contingent of Egyptian Army in 2023 republic parade.
You forgot to mention Tejas fighter jets, and the 6th gen fighter jet in making. You also forgot to mention the Russian S400s.
Until the recent BJP government got elected in India, i would say there was no chance India would start a war, but now im not so sure. Pakistan has started all the 4 wars in the past, and India for some reason had a policy of not attacking unless attacked first. Large scale tank use will not work anywhere at the border outside of Northern Punjab and the Greater Jammu Region, due to the deserts that cover the entire central and southern borders (Refer Battle of Longewala in the past). Likely the first thing to happen if Pakistan invades is ordinary skirmishes on land at the entire central-south stretch, tank battles in punjab and western jammu, and terrorists infiltrating Kashmir Valley through the village of Keran, and in Kargil. The Indian Ground army would easily make it to the Indus River uptill Bahawalpur and Hyderabad in South Punjab and Sindh of Pakistan, but face a tough challenge in North Punjab and Greater Jammu. Kashmir and Kargil would be emptied of Pakistani army quite fast and the push to Skardu and Neelum would start. The entire Pakistani navy would be gone by that point. The main Pakistani power would be focused on air only, bombing cities of Gujarat, Rajasthan and Delhi, maybe even deep into UP and MP. A naval blockade would ensue and Gwadar, Makran would be occupied by India and Karachi under siege. I dont think Karachi would fall. Lahore too under siege. I think the war will end when India has reached Islamabad, after finishing Neelum, Skardu, Muzaffarabad, Mirpur, Lahore, etc. I dont think nuclear weapons would be used by either side.
talk about having a dopeass username
I think first armoured core of PAK Army will reach Dehli and fly a moon & Cresent flag over Delhi , just like we muslims have done for the thousand years. Indian army can fight only against innocent Kahsmiries and not against Pak-army. Hindustan will be divided into Nexals and Khalistan. And rest of hindus will have a south India. Pakistan wants to capture up until UP.
@@zulqarnan007 🤣🤣🤣 pakistan can only dream they are useless
@@zulqarnan007 😂 bro forgot 1971 when you signed the treaty
Hindu nationalist spotted
We have no intention to invade or start war with Pakistan. If Pakistan do not stop terrorism and giving shelter to UN designated terrorists then india will have to respond it will be limited to attacking them not killing civilians or capturing Pakistani territory.
Yea because Bollywood is not reality boy alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan
We'll do another Abhinandan. NYT called the conflict humiliation for India.
@@ciybersal9833 Then we'll do another 1971🤙 biggest surrender of army after WWII. You caught out one pilot, we caught your 93,000 soldiers.
@@STARK50 alhamdulillah reality is Bangladesh is a Muslim country and alhamdulillah Muslims have Indian land azad kashmir gilgit baltistan Bangladesh and Pakistan and there’s nothing Bollywood dancing Indian soldiers can do to take Muslims land Bangladesh azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan and Pakistan
@@STARK50 Indians surrendered their land to Muslims alhamdulillah Bangladesh azad Kashmir gilgit baltistan and Pakistan biggest land surrender by Indians to Muslims this is a reality Bollywood is not a reality
World leaders, bankers, and defense contractors would be stoked.
Political conflicts must be resolved by diplomacy
Don't think both countries would ever go full scale on each other as the border consists of impregnable mountains, vast desert, River tributaries and huge urban centers making it near impossible for any side to gain significant advances into others territory without being retaliated by vaporising nuclear strikes, Ironically it's only this nuclear strength of both sides which doesn't allow them to go for another round 😅
That's what France thought in ww2. Got absolutely annihilated by Germany
@@Iamnotracistlmao
That’s different. France was incredibly complacent and had a reinforced line that didn’t extend all the way despite concerns germany would do something. But nonetheless germany very much could get through the terrain to invade france as opposed to these two countries that only have a desert being the only viable source of full scale battle
@@symbiotezilla12345 bruh,getting a tank through a desert is easier than getting a tank through a forest like the ardene
@@Iamnotracistlmao that time nuclear bomb wasn't invented. That time military depends on advance technology military equipment such as tanks, soldiers, guns, aircraft, navy ship etc etc. a country who possess nuclear weapons can fight without deploying it's army on the field.
@@Khalid0786abu nuclear weapons aren't used like this
I want to correct several things in your history part of the video, which you didnt make very clear, but is very important for an audience to know.
1. While a border was drawn by the British for the partition of India, it was very arbitrary, not only on ground but also theoretically on a map. The British Raj was not entirely ruled directly by the British, but there were also Princely States, where it was acting like a vassal state under the British Empire, where the ruler had all his rights to rule his own kingdom except defense, foreign policy and communications. The partition line was drawn only to divide the provinces that were directly ruled by the British, not the princely states. There means that when the British finally left India, they did not create just 2 new independent states (India and Pakistan), but 567 (2 + 565 princely states) new states. The princely states had a right to either join the newly formed Dominion of India, the Dominion of Pakistan, or remain an independent entity. Now the problem was, some of these princely states happen to be right at the border drawn by the British. The Dominion of Pakistan was initially made up of partitioned Punjab, partitioned Bengal, partitioned Assam, the entire province of Sindh, the province of Balochistan and the Northwest Frontier Province.
2. While the princely states had Hindu or Muslim majorities, their ruler still had the full right to decide who they wanted to join (especially if the state happens to be at the drawn border). Jammu and Kashmir, the region that is of question today, was one of the largest of the 565 princely states and most important, and happens to be right at the border. Pakistan claims the entire state based on its overall Muslim majority, but the Hindu King of J&K wanted to remain an independent state. Pakistan then launched an invasion of the independent Kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir, which forced the King to accede to India when the Pakistani troops (initially just armed tribesmen) had almost reached Srinagar, the capital, since India wouldnt protect the state with the Indian army unless it acceded.
3. There are many other princely states that have controversies, other than Jammu and Kashmir. Examples: Hyderabad, Junagadh, Bhopal, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Jaisalmer, Kalat, Travancore, Sikkim. The state of Hyderabad was a Hindu majority state with a Muslim ruler, who did not want to join India despite being landlocked within India and wanted to remain independent. India eventually launched an invasion of Hyderabad, 1 whole year after independence. The Nawab of Junagadh and the Nawab of Bhopal both wanted to join Pakistan, and Junagadh did end up joining the instrument of accesion, despite not actually being near the border at all. In order for Pakistan to actually claim Junagadh being on the other side of the drawn border, he had to convince all the princely states that connect by land to Junagadh to also accede to Pakistan first, each accesion legalising further expansion to the other side of the border. This can be seen when the Nawab of Bhopal (Muslim ruler with Hindu majority) wanted to join Pakistan, Pakistan tried to convince all the sequentially connecting states till Bhopal in Central India (Jaisalmer, Jodhpur, Udaipur, in that order and all Hindu rulers of Hindu majority states) to join Pakistan, offering everything to them in a desperate attempt, but only managing to convince Jodhpur, so the plan failed. All 4 eventually joined India and India invaded Junagadh after a local revolt and held a referendum, where the people overwhelmingly wanted to join India. The Khanate of Kalat, entirely on the Pakistani side of the border, was waiting for an offer from India, but at the end joined Pakistan in duress, after no offer was given by India. India did not have any chance to acquire Kalat anyway, since it was competely encircled by the Dominion of Pakistan with no connecting princely states to the border. It only had the choice of independence or Pakistan. Travancore was a state in the deep south of India facing the Arabian Sea, that wanted to remain independent even after the British left. The King even wrote letters to the British, asking to pressure India into allowing independence for Travancore, but eventually joined India anyway. Sikkim was the last princely state remaining and managed to stay independent till 1975, and finally faced a revolt by the Nepali Hindu majority, who did not like the Sikkimese Buddhist monarchy and opted to join India. The move was also due to the increased threats from China, and finally the last princely state joined India, almost 30 years after the British left.
To see the madness that is the princely states accesion to India or Pakistan visually, I highly recommend watching the video "Formation of India and Pakistan" by Ollie Bye.
The thing is that pakistan army didn't invade j&k rather it was the tribesmen on the request of the then poocnh leader to help them liberate their area which intially mutinated against their own ruler for imposing heavy taxes and committed countless atrocities on muslims. And also note the both armies of india and pakistan were under the british control which they cannot invade unless orders are given.
Really great insights
@@farissyed4564 the same tribesmen that invaded in the Kargil war? Grow some balls own up to your crimes
@@farissyed4564 Ur telling everyone that Thousands of tribesmen flocked through your borders & the army had no idea about, Also after Independence both armies were controlled by their respective governments, the British didn't control them. Both armies didn't invade earlier since Kashmir wasn't part of theirs But after the accession India had legality to cross since it is part of India.
@@amalsooraj4256 the accession happened not on the basis of consensus. It was a unilateral decision by the then king hari singh which is not acceptable to the local kashmiris. Till this day they are fighting for their dignity, their freedom.