Paul Brown Stadium: Worst Stadium Deal Ever
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2020
- A look at the story of Paul Brown Stadium and how it became one of the worst stadium deals between a team and its city...
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Mike Brown: The human version of Mr. Krabs
Mike Brown Is Cheap, No Flash and Flare 🤫😁
And I always thought that of the Dolans who own the Indians.
At least for Mr. Krabs the krabby patty is actually a good product The Cincinnati Bengals are a shit show
Bud Adams had his own shit show.
ArGaRgArGaRgArGaR!
From an architectural standpoint this 21 year old staduim still looks very modern especially looking at it from the outside. It was definitely ahead of its time in design.
i live in cincy and yes, even driving by or walking by it looks fresh and new. it looks like it could’ve just been built. same with great american ballpark.
I was going to say it doesn't look like it offers much shade. But it's cold during football season. I've been to Great America a few times and have roasted in Cincy's summer heat.
@@Hygelac1000 there’s plenty of seating under the huge awnings they have.
@@drinkingpoolwater the awnings don't look like they extend out very much, unless there are some they add for the day of the game?
From the aerial view, it looks like they built it with lots of parking for tailgating. Plus there's plenty of freeway access from all directions, so you probably don't have traffic congestion getting to or leaving the stadium.
Gotta hand it to Kraft, who built a new stadium 100% with his own money.
well he is a gazillionaire so it’s not a stretch.
His family owns Kraft makes billions a year
@@yakamarezlife no they don't. Rob Kraft and the Kraft group don't have much to do with Kraft goods. He made a shit ton on packaging and paper exports which he invested and continues to invest today.
With plenty left over to spend at his favorite scrub and tug down in Florida.
@@CaptainColdyron222 ahhh the American dream :)
Let's not forget that the County Commissioner that negotiated the deal was summarily voted out of office. And then was immediately hired by, guess who...the Bengals.
Bob Bedinghaus
@Brian Hacker Everytime I pop down to Cincinnati to buy something, the clerks will some times say "Got to pay your Mike Brown Stadium tax !"
Boomer Esiason was the reason why that stadium was built. When Boomer Esiason left, the team has never gotten back to their winning ways. Playoffs included!
@@boogitybear2283 No, when Paul Brown died the franchise pretty much died with him.
@@boogitybear2283 they winnin now tho
the algorithm brought me here...not mad at it...interesting vids
Mike Brown may be cheap, but if you can get someone else to pay for your expenses, you're a genius.
Wait, are you saying the Bengals don’t have a proper indoor practice facility?
What a cheap ass owner.
Yeah the only NFL team without an Indoor facility
Only teams who protect their QBs get indoor facilities. Win a playoff game here or there. Rough being a Bengals fan. Going on 15 years myself 🤧
@@GoBlue93I honestly think Mike Brown cares about winning is just that he's very stubborn, bitter and afraid to even go for it. That's why he doesn't really invest a whole lot to the team financially, he's not a bad person at all he's really loyal to his players and the people who work for him, he's just a old man stuck in the past of how he's running the team and not keeping up to today's NFL standard in the front office. Overall, he sucks and it's a shame that a man with a last name that is famous in football haven't lift up to expectations at all since he died and not thinking about LEGACY. However no matter what I say anything negative about him, he won't care because that's just who he is.
Yea cuz Paul Briwn is the biggest cheapskate in pro sports
I've lived in Cincy for nearly my entire life. I guarantee that once this lease is up in 2026, either the Bengals are relocating, or they're going to have to pay out of pocket, because Hamilton County is not going to approve another deal like this.
Just subbed to your channel. You do an excellent job describing stadiums' architecture and explaining their failures, and doing it all in a relatively short time.
I agree i think mikes too cheap he may move the team and london will finally have their london team
Get rid of the bengals and get a new team or get a nba or nhl team like I hipe
@@calebkent5858 interesting. i could actually see that happening. it’s between the bengals or jaguars.
@@drinkingpoolwater I am seriously hoping Joe Burrow/Zac Taylor can increase our ratings and local support of the team... as a young fan of the team and cincinnatian
Agreed
5 more years and the county can tell them to shove it
But they won't. The county will cave again, because Mike Brown can afford to leave the county/city... but the county/city can't afford to lose the Bengals. In other words, Mike Brown has all the leverage.
@@notmyrealname2592 welp....if I were him....I'd put a team in st louis and ensure they build a stadium that makes sense
Unless Burrow really turns this franchise around that’s probably gonna happen
@@notmyrealname2592 the Bengals have a lot less leverage this time I think and they can get a way better deal... Its actually a pretty big team but if they want to hold the county taxpayers feet to the fire I think the county should tell them to shove it. They got the Reds and where is the owner going to go? La has 2 teams and Vegas has a team. San Diego, St Louis and Oakland were not willing to keep the team's they had let alone a new team. The place they seem to want to go in London UK which has so many challanges despite having a new state of the art NFL stadium, nobody will want to be in a division where you have to go across the Atlantic to the UK. Canada could be a option if the CFL goes under but Canada has a low dollar and old stadiums in its major cities. I honestly think it is in total interest for the Bengals to stay put and take less to stay. Studies show that teams do little for the local economy now. Not many cities would build a new stadium in a one sided deal to get a team
These videos are super interesting and the right length to be binged. I'm a fan.
How about the Edward Jones dome in St Louis?
Edward Jones Dome still in decent shape and da Fanz make our Dome not da age of our Dome because I’m actually older than da Dome which is five yearz younger than me!!!
Yes
I thing Edward Jone could get a update to put a glass type and like BC place open roof type thing to it or update the roof like the LIons Ford field.
That stadium suffered the same fate as FedEx field. They were built between an era of outgoing trends and new trends for stadiums. It reminds me of the old Amway arena in orlando.
@@thataboytrevor8486 there was a proposal for something like that to happen, but to renovate to modern standards would have ended up costing almost as much as a new staduim would have by the time they planned the renovation all out.
I live in Cincinnati. Even I pass this place just to go to Colts games in Indianapolis.
Yes I’m still not a Bengals Fan despite their Super Bowl run.
Lucas Oil Stadium is an amazing place.
Same, I’m mean Lucus Oil is amazing and pretty close by. Plus as someone who has also lived in LA and Boston, I don’t really care about the Bengals.
@@joshuajoe1419 it’s a garbage franchise run by Scumbags.
Colts are so trash
I didn’t realize Indy and Cincy was that close together.
As much hate as the stadium gets, I enjoy the aesthetic build. I understand the hate behind it but for me it's one of the better, unique looking grounds in the NFL
Externally it’s a breathtaking great looking stadium, internally it’s a joke, barren concrete corridors everywhere with until recently very little even in terms of basic banners of past great players or even team logos
@@zachhoward9099 yep walking in you really aren’t sure which team even plays there lol. The only great thing about the stadium… and I mean GREAT, is watching football. It’s flawless in terms on watching the game. Not a bad seat in the stadium. You’re not gonna have the comfy reclining chair lounges. But you’ll have a great seat
Congrats! Cincinnati on reaching the super bowl 🏈 you earned it 👏 we are rooting for you here in Buffalo New York
The last playoff game the Bengals won was against a team that hasn't even existed for the past quarter century.
That can't possibly be right...OMG. 1990 against the Houston Oilers.
@@slwsnowman4038 that was when Ole' Fatass, Bud Adams was still alive.
Not anymore
welp..
And now we have a playoff win against the first nfl team in Vegas 😂
Ah, Bungle Jungle! When I lived in Cincy, Riverfront Stadium was still in operation. I have to say, accepting the massive ripoff deal for Paul Brown Stadium is the most Cincinnati thing ever.
don't forget selling their railroad. They had a profitable railroad that they sold for a pittance, then claimed they didn't have any money.
I say do what I did years ago; Ditch the Bengals and join the Colts Wagon.
@@boogitybear2283 even with Frank Reich getting the boot and Jeff Saturday being named interim HC which I do really love the Bengals at least in the relative short term are in better position than the Colts.
Needed a new stadium to compete, got the new stadium still can't compete. 8 and 8 is a good year for the Brown crim family winning all home games going 8 and 8 is a great year.
You forgot to add that Hamilton county had defaulted on the stadium twice , once in 2009 & once in 2013 & in 2026 the city gets to come back to the table to renegotiate any & all deals with the stadium & the Bengals , & Mike Brown don’t even have to put any asses in the seats & he gets $ 55 million a season from the city for doing so . What a rip off . I live in Cincinnati 10 minutes from this pile of shit & as a person who lives here I have never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium & never will .
2:42 this section of the video is why the bengals suck. Good franchises invest in their players and make sure they’re taken care of. This section right here tells me that unless ownership changes, the bengals will continue to suck.
They may be the worst ran franchise in professional sports. From top to bottom they’re an absolute mess. The Pittsburgh Pirates or the Sacramento Kings of the NFL.
Owners that just want revenue more than they do championships. My pirates are in the same boat and this is why for the past 3 decades they've sucked for the most part.
Yea Paul Brown is a worthless cheapskate that continues to get his quarterbacks killed because he refuses to spend any money on offensive linemen
And everyone shat on Marvin Lewis saying he was a bad coach when it's the Bungles organization that sucks. Always has, always will. And the extremely loyal fans are partially to blame because they support the team no matter what. Stop going to games, watching them on TV and buying merch and demand better and you may see some changes.
@@cappyjones So true. If you notice, most of the organizations that suck, have fans that are rabid supporters.
No tax payer money should ever go to a stadium
That's what the average Roman said in 70 AD.
As someone who's finding Cincy to be desirable for my own relocation, I'm glad to know this well ahead of time. Once I move there, it's gonna be hopefully Mason or Hamilton, if not Northern KY. I'm not being ordered to contribute funding a venue for Mike Brown and crew.
Mike Brown deserves the Bobby Knight Treatment: "You got a long way to go to be as good as your dad." 👎👎👎
They still had 24 inch tube TVs behind glass around the concessions in like 2012 😂😂
CRT's (tube TV's) are still serviceable, and often outlast new LCD's, which tend to be disposable. There were certainly many more CRT's around in 2012 than in 2021!
This is unbelievable! When I was a kid these cities that had a baseball and football team only had one stadium that both teams played in. Now they want a separate, half billion dollar stadium for both team!
i have mixed feelings about all of this. 1 you want a stadium??build it with your own money. nothing pisses me off like, taking tax dollars from the people to build a billon dollar stadium, then charge them for upkeep. then slap them in the face to park, then to enter. its a disgrace of all disgraces! but if you dont, the next city will. i live in the 30th biggest market in the US, im glad we dont have any pro teams. but we did have a AAA BASEBALL TEAM HOLD US HOSTAGE, got what they wanted, then bailed out and now the stadium is empty and fields a low a baseball team! the ticket prices are avg of 45$ a game per person
The NFL is so profitable there should be no tax payer subsidy's allowed, but you don't hear the cries of socialism on this issue.
The state doesn't care because they take half of all those millionaire contracts athletes get
How about a Video about the lease deal between the Raiders and the the city of Oakland back in 1995? Talk about the city tax payers getting the short end of the stick financially as well as Alameda County. That lease deal was slapped together at the last minute promising to renovate the Oakland Coliseum to entice the Raiders to Move back from Los Angeles with the stadium renovation costs to be paid back from PSL sales. That never materialized as the PSL sales fell far short of sales expectations. Basically the Oakland City Council and Alameda County Board Of Supervisors lied and knowingly withheld the facts that all the PSL's were not sold while convincing Raiders team officials and city and county taxpayers that they were all sold out when they actually weren't. Therefore Al Davis basically got duped into signing that lease agreement and when he found out later he tried to sue the city of Oakland and Alameda County misrepresentation. The city and county taxpayers wound up paying for this financial fiasco after all and to this day are still paying for it. The debt won't be completely paid off until at least 2023 if that long. Meanwhile the Raiders have since relocated to Las Vegas and that leaves the A's stuck playing in a dilapidated outdated venue. Whether the A's get their proposed new stadium at the port of Oakland is anybody's guess just have to wait and see. Talk about a lease deal deal that that went disastrous? Cincinnati at least you still have your team. Oakland can go kick rocks!.
I’m starting to hate pro sports teams and their shady business practices thats shafts the people/city they claim to “love” so much...
Except the packers they can't move
Especially when the NFL is a license to print money for the team owners
Could you do a follow-up about the Browns Stadium situation. You seem to enjoy your work and have roots in Cleveland and possibly Detroit.
Get ready for a relocation boys
Can you do Qualcomm Stadium next?
Bro, great content
I've been to a game at the stadium, and to be honest, it's terrible. It's ugly, no signage, confusing, and just downright unclean everywhere. The only nice part of the stadium is the view once you're in your seat, but it's still not great
and then you have to watch the ravens clap the bungles 56-17
Who else passes this stadium all the time when going down I-75?
Actually everyone who travels on I-75 through Cincinnati? Was this a trick question?
I do feel sorry for Bengals fans most of them don’t realize that their owner has found a way to make money by losing. The chance of the Bengals ever winning a Super Bowl with Mike Brown as the owner is 0%. In fact I would say the chance of the Bengals to win a playoff game with Mike Brown as the owner is 0%.
@Ryan Williams I am a life long Bengals fan and I agree with you. It is like he is the new Hugh Culverhouse the former owner of the Tampa Bay Bucs. From what I heard he and the Bucs even got a cur from ticket sales to non football events at the old Tampa Stadium. Now that is what I call a terrible deal for the city of Tampa. But a great deal if you were Hugh Culverhouse.
@@TheStevehuff why do you torture yourself? Convert to being a Colts Fan! It’s great! Ever since Boomer retired in 1997, Peyton Manning was drafted a year later and so many playoff wins and a Super Bowl title beats the Super Bowless haven’t won a playoff game since 1991 Bengals.
well
This didn't age well
Well this didn't age well! Bengals made a fairytale run to the Superbowl
What does that have to do with the stadium deal? Nothing really…
@@forgottenplaces9780 You said the Bengals are a loser small market team with a cheap owner haha It's okay dude I know you Chiefs fans are still salty
@rockmysock01 yeah and lost. Lol.
The bengals can’t even do a stadium deal right
The Bengals did it right. The county screwed up.
It's way more on how not to negotiate a stadium deal if you're a county.
@@josepharmstrong1531 Bengals did what was best for business, they don’t owe the county anything if the county makes a bad deal. Though them hiring the County Commissioner after this deal is very sus.
and the team is unsuccessful
The bengals are on the hook for things that haven't even been invented yet
Too bad about the stadium deal. As a Steeler fan, I've always been quite envious of the design of PBS compared to Heinz Field. Of course, we've had tremendous success playing there (until this year anyway) so that may factor into it.
ive been to both a few times... ive always liked heinz more, but PBS is nice too
Three wins total by the Bengals versus the Steelers in 20 years. The statistical highlight of an uneven rivalry.
The Bengals are the NFL's Pittsburgh Pirates. The owners are both cheapskates and have learned that thanks to revenue sharing you could cut corners everywhere put a terrible product on the field and rake in massive profits even if no one shows up (the pirates are rumored to make more than the steelers).
Its a shame because both teams have great fanbases, I remember Riverfront in the 80s-early 90s. They've just been beaten down by 2 of the worst owners in sports.
@@rook1196 In regards to a terrible product, take away the 2005 season, and the 2011 through 2015 seasons, you'd be 100 percent correct. And if Joe Burrow is going to be the "savior", the money spent to acquire and retain talent has to go up.
PBS is what Heinz Field should have been, though in retrospect Allegheny County got off easy. I remember thinking at the time that Heinz cost too much for as basic bitch as it is, but two years later and it could have cost twice as much.
Thats the Cincinnati i know👍
What makes Cincinnati suck more is that people from here think that the place is awesome, mostly because they've never been anywhere else. Cost of living is good and they have an outstanding library system, but other than that, this place is a toilet.
And the County Commissioner that pushed this deal through still works for the Bengals. Yeah, lookin' at you Bob. That crap team has soaked this county, and it's time to go.
to this day they still dont have an indoor practice facility...
The funny thing is the levy passed mostly to get the Reds a new stadium. Screw the Bungals.
The Bengals can threaten to move and there is absolutely no where for them to go.
St. Louis, San Diego, and Portland are at least 3 cities I can think of.
@@boogitybear2283 San Antonio, Salt Lake City, Memphis,
It's been worth it though. Look at all their Super Bowl appearances!
I’ve binged your videos
I love going to the Cincinnati music festival
When you say worst ever, the Bengals are usually involved in some way.
Just hearing this video makes me so pissed at Mike Brown. Truly one of the cheapest owners.
As bad as this stadium’s deal is, no one I mean no one beats Tampa’s Raymond James Stadium deal..
Now we know why Bengals had those rough years, Owners didn't want to spend on a contender
Had? Lol
They are now. Thanks to Mike’s daughter.
I remember when the city and county was negotiating with Mike Brown about the stadium and the lease he had the city and county paying for everything from the electric and water used at the stadium to buying all of their office supplies to even the toilet paper for all the restrooms in the stadium I don’t think that Mike Brown pays for anything at the stadium the county and city pays it, so like you said in 5 years when the lease is up Brown and his family will either want a brand new state-of-the-art stadium like all these other teams are getting or he will be moving the team to a city he thinks who has leaders as stupid as the leaders when this deal was done to get his way somewhere else
It would have been useful to define who the term "worst deal" applies to. Sounds like a good deal for the team owner. Maybe a bad deal for the public, but that depends on how much they are willing to contribute to the team existing.
taxpayers shouldnt pay for a new stadium
Gotta have a decent team to back all that funding for a stadium. This past season if the Bengals had a decent O-line they could've really been a force to be reckoned with. As a Browns fan I could tell they got their QB from the first game last season, just need that O-Line
You are the first person to recognize the bengals use the UC bearcats bubble. Gold star
I can’t even finish this video. I can’t stop laughing
The Packers are not a “pseudo” Milwaukee team. They are the Green Bay Packers because they are in Green Bay, it’s where they were founded. Yes, Milwaukee has helped the Packers finances in the past and without the help they would not exist in Green Bay anymore if at all. But they wouldn’t be in Milwaukee. When the Packers renovated Lambeau Field, only the citizens of Brown County, the county GB is in, paid for it. A county with less the half the population of the city of Milwaukee. When Milwaukee needed a new baseball stadium, it took 5 counties to get it done. And when the Bucks needed a new arena, it took the whole state to get it done, which most people outside Milwaukee did not support as there is no benefit to them from an arena in downtown Milwaukee.
One thing not mentioned about Mike Brown's cheapness: unlike most NFL owners, the brown family isn't independently wealthy. The only reason they're rich today is because they started and NFL team. Most owners have larger businesses to rely on or some kind of outside funding that came first. The Brown family just has football. I think they're the last such owners remaining in the NFL.
there’s others... davis family, the rooneys, the maras off my head
@@UserName-ts3sp The Maras actually has as Co-Owners the Tisch Family a Billionarie Media & Entertainment Mogul Group. So the NFL Giants are not in that old school family run business for a while now. (going back to around the early 1980's)
Reminds me of Al and Marc Davis, owners of the Raiders.
Actually Paul Brown started 2 franchises. CLE + CIN. His football life was truly an amazing story.
@@gemini-mg6sc Mark and his family while not as rich as say Stan Kroene will NOT asking foray type of public assistance to say pay their electric or mortgage anytime soon. He just brought the Vegas WNBA club.
Local politicians (mayors, city councils, county judges) also share blame is bad deals like this. It's easy to get mad at the cheap owner. But what about the politicians on the other side of the deal?
They cant even get their indoor practice facility right, oh wait
Seen enough 5points vids im not surprised the algorithm brought me here
It’s way passed the time to fund pro sports stadiums with tax dollars. Unfortunately most of the major teams in the US have had new stadiums build in the last 25 years. Billionaire owners crying for new stadiums and politicians trying to save votes in their re-election bid, then passing the cost onto taxpayers.
So how much are the Bengals leasing out the stadium for per year? Does the lease amout per year the Bengals are paying to the County cover the expenses and are try able to make some money off of it?
Who else is looking forward to watch the 2027 Birmingham Bengals
Ohio has a law- yet to be fully put to the test- that requires a six month period after the announcement of a relocation of a pro sports team in order to allow anyone to buy the team and keep it in the original location. That happened to the Columbus Crew soccer team when the previous owner and Major League Soccer wanted to move the team to Austin, Texas.
Personally, San Antonio oughta be an option if all else fails.
Idk if it's the leagues worst. Probably the worst stadium deal for a city. But the League is loving that deal.
Wow that sounds even worse than the London Stadium!
Man please, the stadium is nice and they should be back in Georgetown, KY for summer training like they use to be! And they should set up their practice at high school in florence, ky
I feel like the only two reasonable options for the Bengals by 2026 are continue under different leadership, or continue under Mike Brown as the St Louis Bengals
No. Mike will probably never leave Cincy. He will die before he moves I think. His daughter hopefully will win us that Super Bowl and then try to build a new stadium.
What about memorial stadium in Baltimore, Maryland??
The Paul Brown Tiger Stadium in Massillon, Ohio is pretty cool.
There is a terrible towel underneath the turf there lol
This video about Bengals stadium and Jacksonville situation of tarps covering the seats and playing twice in London per season is a good reason why small and mid size NFL teams should be contracted and permanently disbanded or put in a minor league football league. Most large market owners like Dallas, New York and recently Los Angeles can afford to pay for their own stadium without public finance which have hilarious loans repayment plans or other schemes like 🐆 Shad Khan to generate local revenue. Recently, Jaguar's billionaire owner wanted Jacksonville to pay half (260 million) to build an entertainment and residential district, Lot J, next the 🏈 stadium. The city commission voted no. Around 2015, the city Jacksonville paid half (45 million) for a indoor practice facility/amphitheater for the 🐆. A month ago, the same city agreed to pay half (60 million) for another practice facility and team headquarters at stadium. As I type this, the city Jacksonville is in the process of giving tens of millions in incentives for Jaguar's billionaire owner and his rich partners to build a Four Seasons hotel near stadium. All of this the Jacksonville gives out or in planning to give out and the team continue to play two home games in London England indefinitely. Jaguar's president manager, Mark Lamping, stated the two London games per season are much needed (provides 20% local revenue) in order for team to stay in NE Florida for generations to come. 😲 This is before the stadium lease expires in 8 years and any negotiations to pay to massively renovate stadium which I doubt the 🐆 will pay all for.
Punch your "Paul Brown created the Massillon Tigers a high school team and they have a indoor stadium" ticket here. 😂
Will the bengals be in Cincinnati when the stadium lease is up in 2026???
They'll move once the lease is up. Mike brown said as much. A small market cant compete. I think they can do some things to stretch it out to 2030 something but there will be no cincinnati bengals after this lease
They'll continue to bleed the county dry for a good decade or 2, the county will be complicit and keep throwing a good 20M year at it on top of the bond payments. Because the Browns know Hamilton Co. doesn't want a white elephant that they paid after interest and maintence totalling 1B+.
There are probably only 3 cities the Bengals can run to. 2 of them St. Louis and San Diego, probably aren't going to throw cash at carpetbagging owners anymore and defo not Mike Brown. Which leaves....San Antonio? London, no, professional teams pay taxes there. The NFL is pretty saturated. There is a reason why even the Jags aren't looking to get out. They know they'll get a better deal from free money from the cities they reside in.
On the flip side, the Bengals team has been far more successful than the Browns in recent decades.
Psssh not much to brag about
🤯 HWHAT!? Damn! I wish I had that kind of money 🤑 to spend on wine of course!
Touchdown......Bad deal!!!!!.... and the extra punishment, is Good!!!!.... (from the ownership's perspective!)
What about the Raiders deal with the new stadium in Las Vegas?
They’ll be looking to move to Saint Louis in 2027. If I was a voter in Cincinnati, I’d tell them to get lost.
As a voter in Cincinnati I completely agree, just don’t take my reds from me.
@@jadejavelin3400 I’m a Cards fan, but if they were screwing over the city that bad I’d help show them the door. As voters in general this nation needs to tell team owners to pay for their own buildings.
Would be nice if once, just once, one of these municipalities would grow a pair and tell the "team" to go pound sand. What with the taxpayer expense and questionable public benefit - haven't all but the most "elite" teams been found to be economic drains on their host cities?
It might be a politically untenable position, or it could end up being contagious with others following suit and finally reining this whole hostage situation in a little closer to sanity.
There should be a rule for all sports teams saying they don't get any public funding for a new stadium without meeting some minimum attendance and/or win/loss ratio thresholds, so they can demonstrate their viability to the community. If they are a losing team with mediocre attendance, go ahead and move somewhere else , or let the owner pay for the stadium.
Another rule is that if the city pays more than a certain percentage to finance a new stadium, there should be a cap on ticket and concession prices for at least the first five years of the lease.
@@Fixxer315 In Seattle, outside food and most outside beverages are allowed at Seahawks, Sounders, and Mariners games are part of the agreement for public funding. How this hasn't been a universal protocol throughout all of major sports is beyond me.
Crazy it’s all just for 8 games a year + a playoff game if they’re lucky.
Nope. St. Louis made the worst stadium deal ever. Twice.
As someone who lives in Cincinnati, I hope they leave when that lease is up. Such a shitty franchise that cost me a shit ton in taxes
Where would they go?
The St Louis Rams could switch to a year-to-year lease after 20 years and they did
...even though there is NOTHING WRONG with the Dome.
i always have respect for bengals and browns stadiums. you know if you met the fans that went to those places they are real fans. most stadiums people just go for a fun day. but a browns game is mostly hardcore fans. same with bengals
I know, i am a Browns Fan…
I see the bengals moving after this lease ends
More cities need to be like San Diego and Oakland and refuse to pay for new stadiums.
Every nfl city is like this. On the hook while nfl is nonprofit
Basically what I heard was the Bengals are gonna relocate in 2026. If I’m from Cincinnati, I’d be pissed, but no love lost. It seems like it’s better for everyone, they can support the Reds.
This has to be a joke comment. The reds are the biggest losers in sports and bengals among the elite. Never comment again.
Mike Brown never threatened to relocate the Bengals. Art Modell made that threat for him
Art Modell maybe was a better owner, but does not strike me as a great guy. Or a reason a franchise was good really.
Lets not get distracted from the fact that the Bengals don't have an adequate indoor practice facility
This deal wouldn't even be worth it if the team was worth a damn, but the fact that they suck so badly makes it even worse.
Any event held inside the stadium he also gets a % of the revenue
Leagues need to start holding owners accountable. I'm sick of owners like Brown and, to use a local example for me, the pohlad family. They do nothing to help their teams win, and as a result they never do.
When capitalists demand socialist funding:
Fantastic isn’t it comrade? Those capitalist dogs deserve all of the misfortune that comes their way
Everyone hates socialism unless it benefits them. Hypocrites all.
Giants stadium at the Meadowlands was turn down and built in its place was MetLife stadium, a one Billion dollar joke of a stadium. It’s awful. One of the worst stadiums I’ve ever been to. I hope the NFL implodes. It’s a joke league now. Sports takes in billions a year while the cities around them crumble and deteriorate. Look at Ford Field and Detroit . Perfect example