The Classic Decepticon Rumble Debate: Which Side Are You On?

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    07:08 More Rumble and Frenzy Toys

Komentáře • 398

  • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
    @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +6

    Rumble is Red? Rumble is Blue? Are you a toy purist? or cartoon loyalist? :)

    • @robolord117
      @robolord117 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I go by they swapped there names everytime we see them

    • @jeffreyseay7707
      @jeffreyseay7707 Před 3 měsíci

      One of the people you used to symbolize blue tried to assassinate a public official back in 2020 using germ warfare. BLOCKED!

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@robolord117 keep both sides happy...sell more toys :)

    • @krank23
      @krank23 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Neither, I'm a Marvel comic loyalist - which means Rumble is red. =)

    • @Gripen1974
      @Gripen1974 Před 3 měsíci +2

      As a Swede i didnt have access to the cartoon back inthe day so the toy and marvel comic was all i had to go on as a kid, so rumble is red and frenzy is blue.

  • @terrygreenwell6486
    @terrygreenwell6486 Před 3 měsíci +24

    For all of those people who grew up watching the G1 cartoon, Rumble will always be blue. Frenzy was hardly showcased in the cartoon.

  • @CapacitorJinrai
    @CapacitorJinrai Před 3 měsíci +24

    Frmuble is Bled, Rumzy is Rlue

  • @ShadowWaveProductions
    @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +66

    Rumble is blue, Frenzy is red.

    • @dkkanofkash8798
      @dkkanofkash8798 Před 3 měsíci +13

      Frenzy is anger and red is the color of anger, therefore Frenzy is red. Rumble causes a rumble and was blue when we first saw him, so he’s blue.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@dkkanofkash8798 Rumble is blue and Frenzy is red because that’s how it is in the G1 show, the toys just had them reversed.

    • @gerbill13
      @gerbill13 Před 3 měsíci +2

      HERESY

    • @erosdelcarpio5
      @erosdelcarpio5 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes

    • @liamthomas2032
      @liamthomas2032 Před 3 měsíci +7

      Red is the color of anger, why wouldn't frenzy be red?

  • @bri55118
    @bri55118 Před 3 měsíci +12

    According to stories i heard, Rumble was going to be red in the cartoon. But the scripts stated frenzy could be substituted if needed. Due to this, the animators confused this to mean the two figures were the same character and used the blue one for the show.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +2

      It may seem like a big thing now, but back then Transformers was just another cartoon...paint by the numbers, collect a paycheck...so add that with human error and you apparently get an age old debate!

    • @magazineretriever9036
      @magazineretriever9036 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Frenzy and Buzzsaw were hardly ever featured in the cartoon. Basically, they were only made to add variety (and therefore revenues) to the surplus of Transformers toys that existed at the time.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      @magazineretriever9036 yup easy repaints easy money! But could've used more Frenzy and Buzzsaw :)

  • @allhailme8457
    @allhailme8457 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I love Soundwave, and if Soundwave tells me the blue one is Rumble, then I’m going to believe him.

  • @jomomma1072
    @jomomma1072 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I’ve never understood this color thing but now I see, thank you. Rumble is blue for me but now that my eyes are open I believe that Rumble is blue in the cartoon and Red in the toy line.

  • @mrsamaritan6881
    @mrsamaritan6881 Před 3 měsíci +10

    The Studio Series '86 line also supports Rumble is Red and Frenzy is Blue as they go out of their way to called Rumble (Blue) on the box, indicating that this is NOT his usual color scheme. They also have Frenzy (Red) on his box, indicating the same thing.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      The original toys had the colors reversed, so the toys follow that. But the G1 show had them right, so everything but the toys follows that. So, therefore, the normal color for Rumble is blue, and the normal color for Frenzy is red.

    • @yunoyuluvit
      @yunoyuluvit Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@ShadowWaveProductionsYou just show your ignorance, because everything else showed him as red and given that the toys came first and the comics also came before the cartoon, mean that the show is incorrect.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@yunoyuluvit the show ran for years, Rumble was blue the entire time. (Not counting animation errors, but those are just that, animation errors.)

    • @sci-fi.tsunami
      @sci-fi.tsunami Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@ShadowWaveProductions You wish buddy! The toys came first! And there is a scene in the cartoon where Rumble & Frenzy are both blue. Which proves the animation made tons of mistakes. Rumble is RED & the cartoon is loaded with errors.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      @@sci-fi.tsunami the toys came first, which means the cartoon is the final product.

  • @MyHandle4455
    @MyHandle4455 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Hands down one of the coolest G1 characters. The cassettes were fan favorites

  • @crimsonjadewolf2314
    @crimsonjadewolf2314 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I’ve been thrown into a frenzy over this. If you don’t like the outcome, then let’s rumble in the jungle 😂😂

  • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
    @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Rumble is Red frenzy is blue

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +2

      No, in G1 Rumble is blue and Frenzy is red, the toys were just reversed. The show is a much better source of information than the toys.

    • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
      @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@ShadowWaveProductions bruh the show wasn't even accurate to its self most the time, this was also the same show that Contradicted Megatron's origin so many times, I think I rather stick to toys then the Cartoon that couldn't keep it's story straight lmao

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@shafikkrisoondatt4002 the show had consistent colors. The animation errors where characters were different colors are just that, animation errors.

    • @dillydraws
      @dillydraws Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@shafikkrisoondatt4002 But the character of Frenzy didn't show up till like season 2. Are you saying every time Rumble was on screen was an animation error?

    • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
      @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@dillydraws I never said it was an animation error but more of the Show writers or art team accidently switching the names around and them just sticking with it, and I probably won't be surprised if Everytime they intended to fix their mistake rumble always ended up blue its g1 man anything is possible

  • @billrules8716
    @billrules8716 Před 3 měsíci +5

    You forgot about the comic books from Marvel, which came out in May 1984. Rumble was red and Frenzy was blue in the comics, just like the toys.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +1

      The show is a much better source of information than the comics and toys.

    • @yunoyuluvit
      @yunoyuluvit Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ShadowWaveProductionsOnly to an idiot.

    • @the_ugly_vehicon1966
      @the_ugly_vehicon1966 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@ShadowWaveProductions how?

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      this is just a fun discussion between fellow fans...no need for idiot calling :)

    • @Gripen1974
      @Gripen1974 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ShadowWaveProductions As Swede i didn't have access to the cartoons as a kid so it was marvel comic and toy only. Also the cartoon was based of the toys so toys was original source.

  • @RDPendleton
    @RDPendleton Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rumble is red, Rumble is blue. Frenzy doesn't exist.

  • @darksideblues135
    @darksideblues135 Před 3 měsíci +3

    It only makes sense that Frenzy is red. Red is associated with that mental state, like anger.

  • @jeremiahsacks2868
    @jeremiahsacks2868 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I just call them frumple and dinklus or whatever other random assortment of letters sounds funny

  • @lemonherb1
    @lemonherb1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    When the G1 cartoon was dubbed into Japanese, they called the blue one Frenzy and the red one Rumble

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      I could be wrong but it seems that Japan took their toys more seriously than anywhere else :)

  • @Varatho
    @Varatho Před 3 měsíci +3

    The obvious answer is that they do that twins trope where they swap paint/names at random to purposely confuse everyone. Meaning the main reason they hang out with Soundwave is because he can read their minds, and is in on the joke.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I wouldn't put it past them...one thing is apparent is that no matter what color they are, they're both jerks 😅

  •  Před 3 měsíci +3

    Rumble and Frenzy can change color at will and they do it all the time to mess with people.

  • @Yogsoggeth
    @Yogsoggeth Před 3 měsíci +7

    Watch the scene in 1986 movie when Soundwave ejects the cassette robots in SLOW MOTION...
    Just before one of them says "First We Crack The Shell......"
    Both Rumble AND Frenzy are blue...
    I'm not kidding. I highly suspect they are both colours and can change them at will.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Ha ha yes I caught that :) one of them animated errors....or them just effing with us 😅

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Před 3 měsíci +4

    Thanks for doing the legwork on this; so many toys!
    Rumble is red, BTW 😉

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +3

      Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue!

    • @MatthewCaunsfield
      @MatthewCaunsfield Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@ShadowWaveProductions that's certainly an opinion 😉

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@MatthewCaunsfield Rumble is blue, and that’s a fact. He is blue through out the entire show, the only times he isn’t is when there is an animation error. The toys were made before the show, therefor, they are not the final product.

    • @MatthewCaunsfield
      @MatthewCaunsfield Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@ShadowWaveProductions Indeed, the toys (and comic) are the original product...the cartoon got it wrong.
      It's only a fact that Rumble is blue in the cartoon

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      @@MatthewCaunsfield the show is the final refined version of G1, what the show says goes.

  • @theQuickining
    @theQuickining Před 3 měsíci +3

    To me the name Frenzy matches the red colour more and Rumble matches blue more

  • @mrsamaritan6881
    @mrsamaritan6881 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Hasbro has stated that Rumble being "blue" in the cartoon IS an animation error and that he is supposed to be Red. In fact, while he usually is "blue" in the cartoon, he DOES appear in correct red colors from time to time.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      That would mean that Rumbe being red is the animation error, by your logic Starscream should blue and red because he is accidentally colored in Thundercracker’s colors sometimes. Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue.

    • @yunoyuluvit
      @yunoyuluvit Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ShadowWaveProductionsNot even remotely. You clearly have no concept of logic.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      @@yunoyuluvit you’re the one saying “Rumble is red”.

    • @shafikkrisoondatt4002
      @shafikkrisoondatt4002 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@ShadowWaveProductions this man is going around to every dam comment section that disagrees with him arguing over the most dumbest shit, do you truly not have anything better to do with your time? Lmao

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      @@shafikkrisoondatt4002 I’m only replying to comments on this video. Frenzy is red, Rumble is blue.

  • @thebolt76
    @thebolt76 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rumble is red, his first appearance and his second appearance was red. It wasn't until his third appearance that he was incorrectly colored by the animators based on misreading the instructions. With the release of the Studio Series 86 toy he was labeled "Rumble (blue)". This is to state that this is a variant color not its natural color. If it was the default color it would have just been labeled "Rumble".

  • @TransClips1
    @TransClips1 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Rumble Is Blue Frenzy is Red

  • @mrsamaritan6881
    @mrsamaritan6881 Před 3 měsíci +13

    "Rumble is Red, Frenzy is Blue." ~ Hasbro/Takara.

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci +3

      Only the toys, the show is a much better source of information that the toys.

    • @autobotfan11
      @autobotfan11 Před 3 měsíci +3

      ​@@ShadowWaveProductionsall the comics

    • @ShadowWaveProductions
      @ShadowWaveProductions Před 3 měsíci

      @@autobotfan11 the comics are not accurate to G1.

    • @thebolt76
      @thebolt76 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@ShadowWaveProductions you mean the animation is the best source, so Optimus is blue, there are 2 Star creams, Ratchet is a minibot, Soundwave is an Autobot, Bruticus can be formed without Onslaught, there are 2 red Frenzys attacking Autobot City. Those are just some of the animation errors that come to mind. So the cartoon is far from being a reliable source for accuracy.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      🍿

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy Před 3 měsíci +2

    I remember the confusion when I finally saw the toys and got the one that was blue thinking that Rumble but it turned out to be Frenzy, incidentally Frenzy was blue in the comic if I recall correctly. As for the rest of the others I'm inclined to quote Vinnie Barbarino on this matter: "I'm so confused!"

  • @specter707
    @specter707 Před 3 měsíci +2

    For me, Rumble is blue. The answer will always be based on first impressions. Mine was the cartoon. My old ass grew up watching this show back in the good ol' 1980s. I'll always remember my first Transformer toy. It was a red Bumblebee (Cliffbee?). And I remember one of my classmates having a yellow Cliffjumper (Bumblejumper?) toy. We used to race them down the slides during recess. Hooray for inconsistency!

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I guess that makes two old asses...rumble is Blue for me too...thanks to the cartoons!

  • @JazzSoulMetal
    @JazzSoulMetal Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is wild. I couldn’t stop watching lol

  • @godsofwars16.29
    @godsofwars16.29 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Let’s also take into account the new shattered glass comics. Rumble and Frenzy’s colors are just color swapped, and it doesn’t specify who is who

  • @erikhawkke4861
    @erikhawkke4861 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is Frenzy, Blue is Red. Frenzy is Rumble, Red is Blue.

  • @mwg500
    @mwg500 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think the name switch in the cartoon was deliberate. I think marketing decided "Rumble" was a more marketable name than "Frenzy". But when you look at the orgiinal cassette packs, red guy was packaged with Ravage (the only other unique cassette at the time). Meanwhile, blue guy was packaged with Laserbeak, a repaint of the Buzzsaw that was included with Soundwave. The set with blue guy and Laserbeak was optional, and eventually in 1986 Laserbeak was replaced in the set by Ratbat. Also important to realize that red guy and Buzzsaw were very seldom seen in the cartoon, since they were packaged with other very popular characters.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Interesting theory :) that being said, I always felt it a sore point that Buzzsaw wasn't given as much love as laserbeak. I mean he was the original pack in with Soundwave!

  • @michaelmoolick9419
    @michaelmoolick9419 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Trivia - Rumble's G1 cartoon colors were actually done in the pre-transformer toy "Hi-Fi Man" Very OG if you can find and afford one.

  • @shirokuro73
    @shirokuro73 Před 3 měsíci +3

    To me, Rumble is always red, since I had the original toy, and my main TF continuity as a kid was the comic, especially the UK comic, where he was also red. The cartoon aired in the UK very inconsistently from my memory, so it was not my "main" canon as a kid. But hey, everyone else is free to be wrong!

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      😅 Nice one. I guess I'm wrong then...but it feels so right :)

    • @shirokuro73
      @shirokuro73 Před 3 měsíci

      @@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I’ll make a special one-time-only exception, just for you! :-D

  • @johnliller
    @johnliller Před 3 měsíci +1

    Just because some studio intern fucked up the color schemes doesn't mean Rumble isn't red.

  • @sukmykrok3388
    @sukmykrok3388 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I never cared who was who. All I knew then, and care about now is that there's a red one and a blue one. That's it.

  • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
    @AntiDecepticonCampaign Před 3 měsíci +2

    If I’m in the west, rumble is purple/blue and if I’m in the east rumble is red.

  • @feralstorm
    @feralstorm Před 3 měsíci +2

    Takara is very consistent about FIBRIR, because when they localized the Transformers cartoon, they switched the names in the dub. I barely care either way, but I'll err on the RIB side, as I'm a cartoon fan, and certain people tend to be more prone to being really pissy about being 'correct' on the RIR side. 😎

  • @ARCWuLF
    @ARCWuLF Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is red to me. I owned the G1 Rumble/Ravage 2 pack before I ever saw the cartoon, and as a fan of the Marvel comic book, he was red in that as well. When I first saw the cartoon, I realized that they had miscolored him, but I never really cared much either way.
    Thanks for posting!

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for your input too! And even if I prefer him Blue, your opinion is much appreciated!

  • @TheLeftie600
    @TheLeftie600 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rumble's always red for me, saw the toy then the comic books (which had him as red) before I ever saw the cartoon.

  • @toybugcarl
    @toybugcarl Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rumble is red…
    Frenzy is blue…
    If you’ve never owned either…
    I’m sad for you.

  • @unnamed12346
    @unnamed12346 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Rumble was red with his first introduction to me, and on my shelf, he will always be the red one.
    If Rumble is blue to you, then more power to you, if Rumble is red, more power to you, but if you need to yell about it over the internet and insist that Rumble is only blue because the cartoon was the largest reaching media and that people are wrong otherwise, then I will always say Rumble is red out of spite more than anything else, and the vice versa goes for the aggressive "Rumble is Red" group.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      It's all in good fun and discussion among fellow fans....hope people don't lose track of that :)

  • @ianmcintire6696
    @ianmcintire6696 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I want to see a fictional universe where the coloring seems inconsistent, but the moment another character points this out, someone else retorts, “Oh, they just swap colors periodically to screw with people.”

  • @mdedes9891
    @mdedes9891 Před měsícem +1

    For me as a kid back then and now as an adult, Rumble has always been blue. Unfortunately for me, after hearing every Autobot and every Decepticon, (especially SOUND WAVE himself) call him Rumble just did me in. I guess im a victim of 'Decepticon Stockholm syndrome.'

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před měsícem +1

      It could Decepticon Stockholm syndrome? Or you could just be absolutely correct?😅

  • @Busto
    @Busto Před měsícem +1

    Being a fan of the cartoon first, I'm going with Rumble is blue..err .. periwinkle🤣🤣🤣

  • @Stormtrooper53
    @Stormtrooper53 Před 3 měsíci +1

    There's actually a situation similar to this. The two bounty hunters 4-LOM and Zuckuss in The Empire Strikes back. The characters went unnamed in the film, and when Kenner released their toys they designated the droid "Zuckuss" and the bug-eyed alien "4-LOM." This wasn't corrected until 1989. I just consider "Rumble is red" to be based on a packaging mistake. I am a toy purist, Soundwave has yellow eyes, Grimlock has a yellow visor, Swoop's chest should be red, but Rumble is definitely blue.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Yup I grew up always identifying zuckuss as the droid and 4lom the tan alien. its only now as a black series collector that I am slowly coming around to the truth on that one 😅 but as for Rumble he will always be blue to me 😅

  • @eugenewilson7555
    @eugenewilson7555 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I always considered it a packaging error and still do, packaging errors do happen on large scale

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Also a very strong possibility :) many people point out the cartoon as having so many errors, yes true but that doesn't mean toy manufacturers are perfect either 😅

  • @gabrielvampyre
    @gabrielvampyre Před 3 měsíci +5

    G1 toy takes precedence for me. Rumble is Red. Frenzy is Blue. I see the blue Rumble in the cartoon as an ongoing animation color error, much like I see the "coneheads" as mistransformations.

  • @7t2z28
    @7t2z28 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have to lean towards the G1 series. At the time the show was on air and being produced, more kids watched the show than had the toy. Also keep in mind that the US market was much larger than the Japan market. Everyone here "knew" that Rumble was purple-ish at that time. For those in Japan, their version obviously says Rumble is black/red, because that's what they were given. It's a cruel trick by Hasbro to keep us in fighting and totally forget about the travesty yet awesome of a toy that Sky/Jet fire was.

  • @willisjackson7029
    @willisjackson7029 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is purple, a mixture of red and blue. Frenzy is red in most toy releases, but which one got the most views in media? Cartoons/dubs/comics/video games/and other collectibles?

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm a cartoon fan first, but I only care about the debate whenever only one version is released as a toy and it's only the red/black one, even though the blue/purple one is who got the most spotlight time.

  • @omen1684
    @omen1684 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I always associated a frenzied emotion to "seeing red." In the G1 cartoon, Rumble uses the piledrivers. I only learned of the confusion in naming convention after the fact
    EDIT: officially, rumble is red, but my own personal head cannon has him blue

  • @theycallmekeanu
    @theycallmekeanu Před 3 měsíci +1

    I’ve always liked rumble being red because of the alliteration

  • @resistancepublishing
    @resistancepublishing Před 3 měsíci +9

    Rumble is blue. Frenzy is red

  • @RedRanger2001
    @RedRanger2001 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Hmm...
    The red one Toy!Rumble/Toon!Frenzy and the blue one is Toy!Frenzy/Toon!Rumble. Enemy is both red AND blue.
    Concluded.

  • @Asphodellife
    @Asphodellife Před 3 měsíci +1

    Let's start another discussion: Frenzy is not RED, he's black! Blue vs Black!

  • @Roadblock911
    @Roadblock911 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've always been a rumble is blue guy. I always figured the media was cannon not the toys. If the toys were cannon the autobot minivans wouldn't have heads.

  • @stephenmiller4091
    @stephenmiller4091 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What if there were three cassette bots, but megs called one the wrong name and the bot corrected him, leading to megatron shooting him with his fusion Canon. Rumble and Crumble learned real quick not to correct Megatron, less they end up like poor Frenzy, and respond to any name megs calls them.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      I wish that was canon 😅 it would also explain why there are seekers towards the later seasons 😜

  • @IrishKyokushin
    @IrishKyokushin Před 3 měsíci +1

    I wonder if Rumble was Purple in the show because they didn't have plans to have Frenzy in the show at the time. So he was meant to be a fusion of the two.

  • @radwolf76
    @radwolf76 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Funny you should mention Dr. Claw, because Soundwave is just Dr. Claw's voice run through a vocoder effect.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Yup! Frank Welker basically did the same for his Soundwave voice in TF2. Without the vocoder it was basically just Dr. Claw 😅

  • @Midrealm_DM
    @Midrealm_DM Před 3 měsíci +1

    7:00 - wait a moment, if you're counting Takara and Hasbro separately when they have different colors, you still need to count them separately when they have the same color, that makes the count here to 7 to 3
    7:22 - 8 to 3
    7:29 - 9 to 3
    8:32 - 9 to 4 (I feel this should count equal to both, but its your call)
    8:54 - 9 to 5

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      good point! doesn't change the the outcome though :) but thanks for pointing it out!

  • @zhangdaddy9192
    @zhangdaddy9192 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You should also mention Bumblebee movie concept art Rumble who is totally blue.

  • @frobeusns6404
    @frobeusns6404 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is Purple, Frenzy is Red

  • @magazineretriever9036
    @magazineretriever9036 Před 3 měsíci +1

    To me, Rumble is blue because he was presented as blue in the cartoon, and every Rumble action figure sold at the stores where I grew up was also blue.

  • @gopium1976
    @gopium1976 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble will in my eyes always be blue and frenzy is red

  • @GeorgeRenda
    @GeorgeRenda Před 3 měsíci +2

    I don't count 3RD Party or cancelled releases, heres my list
    RUMBLE 8-4
    ------------------
    Generation 1 Red
    Alternators Red
    Music Label Red
    United Red
    Masterpiece Red
    Fall of Cybertron Blue
    Prime Blue
    Arms Micron Red
    Titans Return Red
    Siege Red
    Studio Series Blue
    Studio Series 86 Blue
    FRENZY 7-4
    ------------------
    Generation 1 Blue
    Generation 2 Red
    Music Label Blue
    United Blue
    Masterpiece Blue
    Fall of Cybertron Red
    Arms Micron Blue
    Titans Return Blue
    Siege Blue
    Studio Series Red
    Studio Series 86 Red

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Nice list! Well I would concede just based on number of releases FIBRIR wins out...but for me...the cartoon Rumble just made such an ipression on me that FIRRIB gets my vote :)

  • @Gregory_ferrandis
    @Gregory_ferrandis Před 12 dny +1

    rumble and frenzy switch names to trick people

  • @shaneskaalerud3371
    @shaneskaalerud3371 Před 3 měsíci +19

    Frenzy is red rumble is blue.
    Roses are red violets are blue.
    If you stick with these I'll be with you.

  • @Midrealm_DM
    @Midrealm_DM Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble (toy) did not use piledrivers to cause earthquakes, he (fictionally) produced low frequency sound waves that could cause localized seismic disturbances. Frenzy used high frequency waves to disrupt electrical current. All of the original cassettes had an ability tied to sound or recording, which makes sense, as they were cassettes.
    I feel the cartoon producers decided that using sound to create earthquakes was too complex an idea for kids to handle. I don't know, but I prefer rumble didn't have them and used sound, as was meant to be. - RIRFIB

  • @ryvyl
    @ryvyl Před 3 měsíci +1

    I prefer referencing " toy version, or show version".
    They are different pairs with different personalities. The specs of the toys give technical reasons for there abilities and the show gives visual reasons. (Also, the toy version of Frenzy couldn't generate earthquakes)

  • @Bl00dwerK
    @Bl00dwerK Před 29 dny +1

    Now do how many episodes of the cartoon Rumble is blue.

  • @user-oo7uq9zq3b
    @user-oo7uq9zq3b Před 3 měsíci +2

    There is no debate. Rumble is Red.

  • @geechie-don7157
    @geechie-don7157 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Boy idgaf what the count is, Rumble is BLUE! 😎

  • @cowboybarbaryn1302
    @cowboybarbaryn1302 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is blue. Frenzy is also blue. Frenzy is also red. But Rumble can be red if Frenzy is blue this time

  • @RichardGarza-zo9mo
    @RichardGarza-zo9mo Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble looks better in purple and blue and Frenzy in black and red. Both with piledrivers.

  • @Freefall347
    @Freefall347 Před 3 měsíci +1

    For me, the G1 cartoon is what established who the characters really were, and what they could do. The toys really didn't give much of an impression on what, say, Ironhide, was actually supposed to BE like. And in that case in particular, I know there are a TON of people who felt it was weird that his toy didn't match the cartoon at all, rather than the cartoon not matching his toy. There's a reason the Masterpiece figures are designed to follow the cartoon more than the toys, after all.
    For this reason, I feel that the toy coming first is honestly a moot point. The cartoon clearly showed who Rumble is, and what he does, and he's blue.
    Now, if you're introduction to the characters was Marvel Comics, I could see there being another angle to this. But not the toys.
    *Edit* And even aside from all that, I mean, someone being named "Frenzy" being colored a hot tempered color like red makes a ton more sense than having him be a cool color like blue.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      I couldn't agree more on all your points :) appreciate the effort you took to properly lay them out. I especially like the point on the Ironhide toy vs toon :)

  • @IllaWondah
    @IllaWondah Před 3 měsíci +1

    Who remembers when they switched names with colors in a cartoon?

  • @erikhawkke4861
    @erikhawkke4861 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm on the side that Enemy is cooler than both because he is both red *and* blue. So suck it, Frumble.

  • @havokan45
    @havokan45 Před 3 měsíci +1

    As a kid the couple Transformer comics i had didn't have Rumble or Frenzy in them so i would have go with the cartoon names. As a kid i got my Transformers from a Mom & Pop toy store it would get all the Transformers most would sell out . As a kid i had Soundwave with Buzzsaw mine also had a Ravage . Also Ravage wasn't no where on the box and was settin loosely in the box . My cousin knocked of the shelf my Soundwave and Prowl Soundwave head broke so i never tried to get the other tapes and Prowl roof broke l off .The other thing a friend of mine had a black and gold tape when asked who it was he said he didn't knowthe name . The friend also had 2 different Jetfire & Skyfire the one had the Cartoon 's gun and only 1 antenna on each side he said that was prototype that got changed he grandparents moved away before the movie came out he told me and my friends new Transformers where coming for the movie . I was one of them kids who stop getting transformers after the movie came out they killed off my favorite transformers in the movie

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      So to hear about your soundwave and Prowl. That datsun roof ilwas always breaking off. I had Bluestreak and that happened too. At least both Frenzy and Rumble survived the movie! And they took down Devastator :)

  • @AL-ut6hl
    @AL-ut6hl Před 2 měsíci +1

    the rumble / ravage 2 pack were my first transformers , so rumble will always be red to me , , as for the cartoon they had a green shockwave at one point

  • @JediKryze
    @JediKryze Před 3 měsíci +1

    Casey Kasem was the original voice of Shaggy.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Yes he was! As with Bluestreak and Cliffjumper. Such an iconic voice. Too bad they ended up offending him causing him to quit the show.

  • @mjberndt76
    @mjberndt76 Před 3 měsíci +1

    At the time I watched as a kid, they were both black n white lol

  • @GX328382
    @GX328382 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Put me down for BLUE, it's how i seen him for the 1st time in the cartoon and it's how i'll always see him as

  • @redheartnorvus8997
    @redheartnorvus8997 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is Red, Frenzy is Blue. Decepticons are mean and mistakes their names on purpose. Autobots use cliche names, but Decepticreeps are on another level.

  • @blastbot7339
    @blastbot7339 Před měsícem +1

    I like to think thst rumble is blue
    Not because hes blue in the show, but because hes used more than frenzy in the show and blue is also soundwaves colour
    Have you noticed how soundblaster is always black and red?

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před měsícem +1

      Whatever the reason Rumble is Blue 😅 yes I like how the Siege cartoon made Soundwave and Soundblaster different characters:)

  • @razumtazum3246
    @razumtazum3246 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue. Always go with the source material, which in this case is the toys. You wouldn't say the Wonder Twins were ever members of the Justice League just because they were in the cartoon. On the flip side of the coin, you would never claim "Thunder Kick Batman" was an official Batman suit just because they made a toy of that.

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      I guess at the end of the day..."source material" can be misconstrued as a fans first exposure to the character. Hence for cartoon people, he's blue :)

    • @tigerbread78
      @tigerbread78 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@StoriesFromTheToyshelf But then as you said, TF the Movie CARTOON switched the colour to what the toy was. So G1-wise its Toy-red, Comic-red, Movie-red, Cartoon-blue. 3 to 1

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      @tigerbread78 wasn't Rumble blue in the movie? Either way m not denying that red Rumbles have clearly outnumbered the blues, but the blue Rumble in the G1 cartoon is a BIG one, that served as the "first" Rumble to a huge chunk of TF fans including myself. And for us, it's enough to prefer our Rumble ro be blue. But either way both sides have strong and valid arguments :)

  • @PrincessAmi9756
    @PrincessAmi9756 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm surprised that they've never done a version of Rumble and Frenzy, that have a color change gimmick, or the like.

  • @lacoleccionperfecto
    @lacoleccionperfecto Před 3 měsíci +1

    Only the color blind live in peace and happiness.

  • @kevynhansyn2902
    @kevynhansyn2902 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How many memes can you insert before the first minute?
    Answer: Yes

  • @yojimbonoir4411
    @yojimbonoir4411 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble and Frenzy, red … blue, maybe we will never agree. But as a duo, can we agree that they are hands down better than the Bay Transformers Skids and Mudflap brothers?

  • @RicQuintanilla
    @RicQuintanilla Před 3 měsíci +1

    Seems either can be right...
    But for me, like you, the cartoons came first. So Rumble is blue to me. I still have my 80s Blue one, and forever will be misprinted..

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      Agree! you had a misprinted toy?that was a thing?

    • @RicQuintanilla
      @RicQuintanilla Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@StoriesFromTheToyshelf not "really".. but that's my head cannon for the name switch when it comes to the toys.

  • @markschroeder5559
    @markschroeder5559 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm loosing sleep.

  • @toejamandearl8110
    @toejamandearl8110 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Frank Welker also voiced Uni on D & D.

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class Před 3 měsíci +1

    Studio Series Bumblebee Concept Rumble is blue.
    Personally I'm of the opinion that Rumble and Frenzy swap color schemes to mess with people. It's usually animation errors. For instance: In the Autobot City sequence of the movie, an animation error puts Frenzy on the casetticon launch sequence twice; and then in the next shot one of them is Rumble.
    You even put that exact scene in this video as a screencap and I was surprised you didn't comment on it even as a joke, haha

    • @StoriesFromTheToyshelf
      @StoriesFromTheToyshelf  Před 3 měsíci

      It all started out with animation/production mistakes, but at this point, Hasbro is probably just messing with us :P

    • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
      @aircraftcarrierwo-class Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Entirely possible

  • @jakethegreatest473
    @jakethegreatest473 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Get both and then there are no arguments 😅

  • @pty507droneadventure7
    @pty507droneadventure7 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Always been Blue and will be Blue to the end ....at least for me

  • @TheProtronic
    @TheProtronic Před 3 měsíci +1

    Frenzy is blue
    *F.I.B.*
    A *fib* is a little lie
    I trust that clears thinga up.

  • @RoboGoby
    @RoboGoby Před 3 měsíci +3

    rumBLUE fREDnzy

  • @richardglenn2440
    @richardglenn2440 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rumble red. Toy came first so what I base it on

  • @user-my7lm1qn6q
    @user-my7lm1qn6q Před měsícem +2

    FIBRIR

  • @yunoyuluvit
    @yunoyuluvit Před 3 měsíci +2

    THERE IS NOT DEBATE! Rumble was released as red and every piece of legacy media, with the exception of the original cartoon, showed him as such. Even the cartoon bible, which is available online, lists him as red. It just ended up being another animation error, but one never corrected. The Japanese translation went so far as to rename the character to Frenzy, hence why every Japanese iteration uses the correct name.
    Now, if the response is "I know that Rumble is red, but I refer to him as the blue one, as that's how he appeared in the cartoon", then that's fine: It's your toy, call it whatever you want. However, if you refer to him as blue in an erroneous statement of fact, then you just make yourself look like an idiot.