Should You Split the Check on the First Date?
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That woman was looking for a free meal. Plain and simple. She was very rude.
@zadose
What law is there that I should pay for your shit?
You work don't you?
Pay for your own shit.
@zadose when do women ever ask any man out on a date though. happens once in a blue moon
@zadose Why, I thought according to Feminism, men and women are equal? So why does the man alway have to pay even though he asks? Women rarely ever ask men out on a first date. You can't claim feminism and then expect to have olde style courtship practices as well. Hypocritical. If the man asks out a woman, and sets the expectation in the ask - that they go dutch, the woman will hardly if ever say yes. They ALL want a free meal.
Agent Of Vengeance ... At the end of the day most men are the ones asking women out. If it’s a lady that is used to being treated a certain way and you do the opposite. She has every right to reject another date. And you should be able to just move along without getting butt hurt about it ... 😴
@@denisewhite3902 And you should move along without getting butthurt about not getting a free meal.
That girl was just taking advantage!
That girl is over 90% of all girls most of the time. They have good time and free meal or drinks. Fuck that. We're in 2021. You girls work pay your half or stay home!
@@kojivamracku9690
Real Sht 💯
Think this is the first time I’ve seen people talk about who should pay for first dates and NOT piss me off lol
no matter what... i as a female will always pay for my own food. the reason: i appreciate them giving me their time and offering to pay but i feel better paying for myself.
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@@edjones8061 That's right hats to her doing that. Everything just tastes better when you pay for your own food.
"You pay tonights dinner, ill pay tomorrow night?" How do you feel about that?
Ur a woman with valuew and self respect ur earned my respect
Wow...😳😳 Simply Amazing..if anything, its the gesture that we guys appreciate the most..👍
WHY AM I NOT HEARING SEPARATE CHECKS?
Corey was raised right. The principle is to KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING IN TO. Don't just take anyone out. Know who you date. Not just cause something looks good.
You won't know someone on a first date
You won’t truly know a woman until you lived with her you won’t know much about her from conversations because people can put on a front.
My point is that getting him know know someone BEFORE asking them on a date is important. Meet them as a friend first. When entering into a more romantic relationship people behave differently and cover up more. Meeting them on a basic level first is important.
Most guys don't know how be friends with a woman first because they're too busy trying to sleep with her than get mad when some girls use them for free meals. I can't feel sorry them lol
coffee for first date simple as that.
@zadose blah blah blah...
@zadose LMAO
Eww no
zadose Coffee for a first date if you haven’t had time to talk to her before the first date if I’ve had time to talk to her before the date and see that we at least have something in common and like each other somewhat then fine I’ll invest in our relationship by paying but if I did not have time to talk to her yes coffee because I’m not treating a complete stranger.
@Connie Chung are you so broke that you wont pay for $3 coffee?
If you don't want to pay a lot on your first date, don't take her to an expensive place. It's ridiculous to take a girl to a fine restaurant and have her order only coffe and cookies. Or worse, expect her to pay for everything. Who is taking out who? If you invite, you pay. You don't invite and expect your date to pay for it. Some men just have no common sense. They make it so obvious that they are not a good choice for the responsibilities and level head that a marriage requires.
I think he refers to she ordered the whole menu. A little overboard.
I pay and it is fine. Guys are in a bad place are you supposed to follow ancient rules or the me too movement
He didn't expect her to order the whole menu lol
Splitting the bill is fine. People are equal
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Ima be honest. I prefer to pay the first date cause my bitch ass ain't cheap so why the fuck would I force someone to break the bank for me?
Ally B ... no it’s because YOU HAVE TO pay for it. 😴 Men pay for women they find attractive. They say this themselves. No offence sweetie. Some girls can afford to have higher standards. Others have to ... settle 😴
zadose I don't understand. Does splitting the bill make a man feminine?
If it does, does refusing to cook, do the dishes and the laundry make a woman masculine?
I'm sorry but you want to invest noth'ing but want to take everything??
Have your cake and eat it??
Tf boys nowadays!! No real men!
A real man UNDERSTANDS that him being a man, he NATURALLY wants to provide and protect!! And he doesn't want some butch masculine woman!
So if she ain't even worth a dinner date, what kind precedent are you creating!!? That you are a cheapskate!! And a scrudge!! Biggest turn off and red flags to 90% of women!? They run!!
Why? Coz your lil boy a$$ fails to understand that in order for you to get the girl you want, you need to invest into her!!! Time effort, money! Yes!
You can't expect the milk without paying for the cow first!
And the best things in life don't come easy! So show some manners, some respect and be a man! Step up!
Coz equality has gone nothing to do with love and relationships!! 🙄🙄😤😤
99.999% of the time it's the guy asking a girl out on a date. Unless you look like Brad Pitt or something. So the rule of whoever asks pays usually means that the guy pays for the first date every time. And then if she doesn't offer to pay the 2nd or 3rd date you dump her. The exception is if you know she is having a hard time financially right now with school or some other reason.
If she doesn't offer to pay for half that's the most polite she's ever going to be.
@@ProfligateGhost meh that's the matthew hussey argument. I sort of disagree with him and also disagree with what I wrote in my original comment almost a year ago.
It's actually ok for a woman to always want the guy to pay. For some women, that is what they value, they want a man who can and will always provide for them. However as men you also have the right to not want to be with someone like that or be with someone like that. In the past I sort of looked down on women like that, now I look upon them with indifference.
@@activelivingchallenger4298 cancel urself, backtracking ass
I came up a new rule. If a guy is expected to pay on the first date, as being a traditional value, then by the 2nd or 3rd date, she needs to cook him a home-cooked meal at either of their places, to show she can be a traditional woman too. I totally agree with the *whoever invites the person, should pay.* It's always the man expected to take charge. I had a woman ask me out, suggest the places (far from my house) then made me pay for everything and ghosted me immediately. Men, don't fall for this bs.
@@activelivingchallenger4298 sugar daddies lol
Woah. The black guys thought process on "having fun" after spending 400 bucks is the reason the "Me Too" movement is a thing.
that's not fair to say tho. he didn't say he was gonna take advantage of her. and a lot of men think like that doesn't mean they are rapists or sexual abusers
@@22HW4Life I never said that he would take advantage of her or anything like that. Nor am I generalizing men. The whole point is it personally disturbed me the way he said it. He spoke in such a way that made it sound like the woman would owe him something. When in reality women don't owe men anything after a date. It is this mentality that can become dangerous if not addressed--regardless if he was kidding.
@@AzaniCarpenter_1122 yea I get that, it is disturbing but I was just specifically talking the me too movement.
i agree it is not an ok expectation. Even if the girl is rude
That's definitely not the reason for the Me too movement. However yes his response was disgusting and I hope to God he doesn't have any little girls, if that's the way hes gonna teach them to be treated.
Who 99% of the times invites for the first date? Men... You already know who's paying for first dates 99% of the times.
Please people
"bossy" on her necklace, bam straight to the back of the line
homie said In and out yesssss lol
I’m always respectful on first dates
Pay for your own shit until you know what the other person is worth to you. Its not that complicated. The whole "whoever invites out" argument is garbage because women still expect men to be the ones to apporach. Thats a catch 22 and women say this shit all the time because they know they're not the ones asking.
I'm sorry but you want to invest noth'ing but want to take everything??
Have your cake and eat it??
Tf boys nowadays!! No real men!
A real man UNDERSTANDS that him being a man, he NATURALLY wants to provide and protect!! And he doesn't want some butch masculine woman!
So if she ain't even worth a dinner date, what kind precedent are you creating!!? That you are a cheapskate!! And a scrudge!! Biggest turn off and red flags to 90% of women!?
Why? Coz your lil boy a$$ fails to understand that in order for you to get the girl you want, you need to invest into her!!! Time effort, money! Yes! This is the game! You fail to comprehend that! And you losing hard!!
You can't *expect* the milk without *paying* for the cow first!
And the *best things in life don't come easy!* EVER!!!
So show some manners, some respect and be a man! *Step up!*
*Coz equality has gone nothing to do with love and relationships!!* 🙄🙄😤😤
This is false. I've asked out the majority of guys I dated. A great deal of black women do.
@@oknonook The exception is not the rule. So its not false, you're just self centered.
Well the guy should have said NO while she was ordering. Stop taking women to restaurants that you can not AFFORD.
Shit I’ll go to in n out on the first date!!!! That’s the best place to be lol
Buck 2000 damn right lol
Some girls have higher standards. There are levels to this 😴
@@denisewhite3902 nah your uptight not higher standards. Probably slept with guys for free why tf should anyone have to pay for your food if they wanna get it?
@@betvdaytime "Nice girl" moment
I understand both sides of this argument, and both have valid points. But what it really comes down to is if you initiate the date you should be a man and get the check. And if establishing a relationship with that person is not worth the price of a meal then perhaps you shouldn't be dating. That being said, if it becomes apparent that she's taking advantage like in this video that's a *major red flag* from the start, she doesn't respect you and you need to call her out on on her BS. If she doesn't show sincerity and offer to help pay you should request separate checks and be done with her. Be a gentleman but not a cuck.
No, different times different norms.
Well said JD!!! Well said I sooo agree with everything you said!
In fact I do have the mild expectation that my boyfriend will take care of most of the bill, most of the time!
He does it on his own!!
I don't understand why we women are letting ourselves expect less when we deserve so much!
Standards are slipping and guys take advantage, try to make the most cheap skates dates and still get the cookie!!
Tf??! So you want to invest nothing, but take everything?!?!
Men should pay on 1st 2nd and even 3rd date!
Show you are serious and you want the girl!
Equality don't have nothing to do with love and relationships!!!
If a woman expects you to pay for her time the second the money runs out so does she.
Uhh... I paid for both my bf and i on our first date. And ladies if you wanna order the whole menu best believe you should pay for yourself.
Get ready then to pay all the bills if you marry him. He will be very happy to have you pay for everything.
@@alexandraritch6180 ... bitch it's called a partnership. 50 fucking 50 moron. None of that one is better or one pays more, No. fuck that nonsensical bullshit. Ok bitch
@zadose 70% of marriages already end in divorce. Thank god for the hookup culture now we can smash a chick on a first date and forget about her.
Ally B ... I agree they shouldn’t be inconsiderate and order just anything off the Menu. But no. They don’t HAVE TO do anything. You don’t make the rules for what a woman does on her dates. Some girls can afford to have higher standards than others. Some are desperate enough to split the bill. It is what it is 😴
Ken Smith ... lol boy please. Between the girls who flake, the girls who are high maintenance and the slu*ts who have rotations of their own most of you haven’t got options like that and are getting 1-6’s at most like the lady who made this comment 😂😴 If you guys were getting the hot chicks EASILY you won’t be complaining about the dating game being rigged against you, paying for the bill or women flaking/ having tonnes of options online. Stop it 😴
It's also expected for a man to ask a woman on a date, therefor making men always pay for dates. What a coincidence
I used to be anti let man pay for bill, because I thought it means he’s going to expect something. My male coworkers told me a true gentleman would not be comfortable with a woman paying for them. Women’s lib created this whole mess. #Ilikechivalry
They simps
Y’all cold, but you’re entitled to your opinion. Think there are different expectations while dating vs in a relationship. Of course the woman can pick up the tab here and there. It’s always nice to be polite. But that same coworker told me that even as a grown man, Anytime his dad took him out, Dad always paid the bill
Michael Palumbo I agree that women are working now with great earnings. I tried thinking if I were a man and was expected to pay how would I feel ? I spend money on a person that may or may not reciprocate feelings. You are right in the sense that women want men to court them . Old system in today’s culture because why do I want to invest in someone that I only to “hookup with”. For the guy who is seeing multiple women it’s gets very expensive. But for the guy who’s truly looking for one, not so much.
Michael Palumbo I agree there is more than one person that could be a suitable partner. I also don’t think marriage is for everyone, esp if you are a selfish person .
Michael Palumbo No, you’re wrong👎🏾
Women NEVER ask men OUT.
Of course they all _agree_ the person who asked should pay. 🙄
She trippin, women rarely step up to the plate and ask a guy out and offer to pay
He does not have money...that is the real problem
And you haven't eaten in days and just want to eat all you can till next meal you have
Lina Pesz and that bitch was broke as fuck and THATS THE REAL PROBLEM
So we ought to pay for shit for free just to have sex. Might as well get a hooker than you. They'll probably suck dick better anyway.
Agent Of Vengeance ... but that’s the problem. You aren’t supposed to be dating just for se*x. 😴 The fact that most men are. Is the reason why most women are like this in the first place. It weeds out the men that aren’t worthy and are making low investments 😴
And you are broke and fat
The guy shouldn’t be going on dates if he can’t afford to pay for them. Period. OR stick to dates within your budget. That women took advantage of him though which isn’t cool.
Nicole You certainly said it! Men should not date women that they cannot afford and women should not go out with men that cannot afford them! It’s just inconsiderate and inconvenient to the man and woman✊🏾
Its not whether they can afford it or not, its about just MEETING someone for the first time and not being obligated to pay for someone you just met. On both sides.
If a man is obligated to pay them a woman is obligated to repay with sex
Why the first dude look like Ted bundy
Wow hearing Alex Thomas tell that story about him and is wife is very relatable because I had a woman do the same exact thing and I was very impressed by that 😩😩
Ronald Beasley I Agree ☝🏽 One Million Percent Because I Was Also Raised To
Pay My Own Way . Therefore Their Is No Expectations.
Men taking care of all the bills is such a thing in the past. Women can have job now. Men can helps with house chore and taking care of kids. Do women actually prefer to go back to what it was? Do women want to be financially dependent on men and not having freedom to work? NO, right?
If women want feminism, then they should expect all the responsibilities that comes with it.
I'm sorry but you want to invest noth'ing but want to take everything??
Have your cake and eat it??
Tf boys nowadays!! No real men!
A real man UNDERSTANDS that him being a man, he NATURALLY wants to provide and protect!! And he doesn't want some butch masculine woman!
So if she ain't even worth a dinner date, what kind precedent are you creating!!? That you are a cheapskate!! And a scrudge!! Biggest turn off and red flags to 90% of women!?
Why? Coz your lil boy a$$ fails to understand that in order for you to get the girl you want, you need to invest into her!!! Time effort, money! Yes!
Uou can't expect the milk without paying for the cow first!
And the best things in life don't come easy! So show so manners, some respect and be a man! Step up!
Coz equality has gone nothing to do with love and relationships!! 🙄🙄😤😤
It can be a huge turnoff for the woman if the bill is split, in the case of finding a long term partner I mean, because to a female it shows that that man will not be a provider/protector for her. It's a biological difference as men and women are different, they are wired differently
Guys you should always NOT pay for her and see if she is interested in YOU as a person or the FREE meal she thinks she will get.
How is that working for you??
Years of lonely singleton huh??!! Pathetic 😂😂😂😂
The man paying for the meal is an courting rule...because we are in hookup culture, you should go for drinks or coffee. Women view the dinner thing as an investment. If he can't invest in taking you out for a nice meal, how much does he like you ??
so how much money a man "invests" in you equals how much you think he likes you.
Marlo Stainfield How he invest his time and energy and everything is how he shows he likes me.... again because people are juggling more than one, If I were a guy, I would start off small. I am not attracted to any man that goes in talking about halfsies. I’m into chivalrous men.
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So basically pay for shit just to get pussy.
Sorry, but you're just not worth that much.
Don't let no Woman tell you what you should do guys.
Wow. What happened to equality. Suddenly, Women don't want equality when it comes to money.
Talk about Hypocrisy.
Prior to the first date he doesn't like you at all, whatever he's planning on doing with the bill lol. He doesn't even know you yet. He just knows you're a pretty face. A lot of wasted money if you're not more than a pretty face.
The man has to pay for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd date!
Real men understand that!! Just like steve harvey always preaching!! It's "if you want it, you need to go and get it!"
And I'm soooo glad that those were real men, real gentlemen who know how to treat women! That was some handsome man there!! Where he don't MAKE IT ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
That's exactly how it should go!! Bravo!!
i disagree
I've been asked out twice by a woman in my life. majority of the time like 95.5 percent of the time is the man be real.
Why don't people discuss this before the date. The person that ask out a person should be able to state who paying or splitting it ! Why wait to the date !
Omg, he got played. Chivalry is not dead, but girls don't need to be gold digger like that. I do allow a man to pay for my meal, as I grew up that way, but I don't always expect it. I have been walked out before the date even starts. Oh yes, so embarrassing, thus my first dates are always at McDonald's for coffee. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
that's really sweet card out before bill gets here . that's good
That’s dumb as shit hell learn when his account is drained dry
Why did they brush off the dude saying .... the dude saying the dude will always initiate the first date ?
Paying for the first date increases attraction. So, it's probably in your best interest to pay. However, the devil is in the details. Ordering a bunch of food and not offering to split the bill is a huge red flag if not an immediate disqualifier, that's not a high quality woman; Tread lightly dudes. You already wasted your time on her, don't also waste your money.
Second tip, you want the other person to invest some money in you and not have unrealistic expectations going into a relationship, like free meals etc. If she offers to pay just say something along those lines ''Let me take care of this and you can pay for desert. I know a great place''.
You should probably heed to that woman's advice to not do something expensive on the first date.
Unpopular opinion: I don’t think women should be “life coaches” or “relationship coaches”.
she was rude ya. I would of been very minimal or offer help pay
It's really sweet that guy said that he'll take the credit card out before the bill, but some guys might actually not be able to afford paying for both sides.
Then he should be alone.
@@kenyafromcali Well, not everyone is well-off economically. If you automatically decline guys just because they are of a lower economic status, then I mean... okay well sure that's your preference, but I really don't agree with it. I believe (and I'm sure many others too believe) love should not revolve around money or wealth, it should really be based on emotions and how you feel about the person non-materialistically speaking.
@@kenyafromcali I will tell Aladdin to stay away from you!
@@kenyafromcali No women should stop acting like stuck up entitled brats and be comfortable with paying for her own food. If a man is paying for a strangers food he better be getting something in return
I'm ole school, guy always pays for the date. period. But that's just me ,now if you don't want to pay for a meal, let your date know up front that you want to go dutch, or just ask her to grab a coffee, that way it's only 5 bucks and than you can decide if she's worth paying for her meal.
WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT SEPARATE CHECKS? EACH PAYS THEIR OWN WAY!! WHY IS THAT SO BAD!! I DON'T GET IT!! AND NOT ONE PANELIST UP THERE NEVER MENTIONED IT! AMAZING!!!
because they are spoiled, close minded, dumb and weren't taught right from their parents. it's simple as that
These women and show/host are a lot more civil and understanding than Steve Harvey
I will never pay for your food and drinks unless you have proven to me you deserve.
the woman should feel it out and see what type date he is
Never do 5 star restaurants until you are both committed to one another. Go to an average restaurant. And if a woman offers to pay on a first, second or third date, then you know she is serious and she's a keeper. It doesn't mean you have to accept the offer, but at least you know she is been fair and not just a gold digger.
I honestly believe men have no problem paying for dates….what has made this an issue is that women have gone on these dates just wanting a free meal and not really being interested in the guy.
Because most guys put it out there that they only go on dates to get laid so some women took it as free meal but ghosted them. Those type of dudes aren't genuine but i feel for the guys who are really interested in dating.
@@rosiegirl6175 Free meals became a thing when so many guys created that women are just sex objects and taking women on DATES not to get court and vet them but because they feel entitled to women body lol most guys even have a 3 date rules that if the women don't sleep with them than will ghost her lol what a joke and now they're pissed that some girls are doing free meals date. Get to know the woman first before taking her out on a dates problem solve that it
@@betvdaytime Who would want to date someone like you? I've seen your comments, you're just a manipulator.
What....you invite me, you pay, PERIOD.
You know that it's Men that invite Women 99% of the time so you use that as an excuse so you don't have to pay.
What happened to equality?
Does it suddenly dissolve when it comes to money because that would be hypocrisy.
Ok then women should start asking out men. It won't happen because thats not "feminine"
@Josip Because men should be bound down to rules and women should be free.
There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Split the bill 💵
In the name of equality
This is very interesting to hear, I've recently started seeing someone and most of the time they offer to pay or just pull out their card. I have always offered to pay and pay sometimes as well. It's all about communicating with your partner.
Wow! Is that even a question in America? U guys sure don't have chivalry... The girl definitely ordered too much but every man who is raised as a gentleman knows he has to pay. Guess it's just a British thing.
British thing I don't think so I dated one guy from UK but every time he wanted to see me it was me to pay the bills even he wanted me to pay a hotel for him to stay
@@ritahkalule5294 Lol. U definitely dated the exception. Pay a hotel for him? Lord!. He definitely didn't have a job or just wanted a free ticket with you. Sorry about that.
Playing the other side if a man ordered $35 of food and drink woman ordered $12 she asked him she's gonna pay for above her share that's a damn a fool. Same as a man. Being gentlemen fine a damn a fool he'll no
Jjay why not? Maybe he was short on money that time? Then if she paid for the hotel. I’m sure he will pay for it the next time. Remember this ladies, in most cases it’s not that the man doesn’t wanna pay and all. It’s the ENTITLEMENT that’s disgust man. You ladies maybe can “pretend” like you are about to take out some cash out of your purse and then in some cases the man will say “it’s ok I got this” and they will pay for it with pleasure knowing that didn’t feel like a “entitled little brat” . But with your comment that “man has to pay on dates” sounds a like a huge turnoff for man and maybe that’s why you single. If you are. But everyone is different. You will find bad man who will wanna live you out and make you pay for everything
@@theworldisimmense I agree. This lady was taking advantage obviously. But most cases the man is responsible to do so, however it is right that the girl offers to pay at times and if the guy is in a situation, the girl should definitely pay. But no I'm not single, and I offer to take care of the bill sometimes but most men here feel it's wrong to let the lady pay, Especially when it's the first few dates.
Is she expect me to pay. Before the date I would be like. Lift up your dress and let me see what I am paying for....😂🤣😅
I'll always offer but if they dont show any gratitude for it the offer, im splitting and if they have completely no interest in a second date its a definate split, i'll only pay full if we're going to go out again otherwise i've just wasted a fair chunk of money on some random stranger. Like men arent a fucking charity!
These men are joke. If you can’t even pay for meal how do you expect to take care of a women . Corey is a real man. I do agree women on date took advantage . She was being rude . No chivalry now a days. Steve Harvey has great advice .
If someone is expected to pay, what should be expected of the other person? Monetary compensation is not what a good relationship should be built on. Just get a job.
What do you mean take care of a women? Its 2019 women have jobs they can pay for themselves, they aren't fucking babies.
Ken Smith ... yup women have jobs and when they get married they will also still be taking on the vast majority of the domestic and child care as well. Whilst men do what exactly? Oh ok 😴 where is the 50/50? It’s 70/30
I'm not taking care of a damn woman she better have a job like me!!
@@denisewhite3902 we have to deal with y'all after dealing with our boys all day and u make us not want to come home to be nagged! 😆
If a man cannot cover the date bills, he also cannot cover living expenses if you were to marry him. He might be going through financial hardships and is not ready to get married. He cannot face the financial responsibilities a head of household has. Don't ever marry a man who is not ready financially, it would be a horrible financial mess if you do. Since he is not your husband, don't have sex with him either. Just be friends. Keep yourself safe and free to be happy by walking in God's ways. Don't get tied up in the devil's messes.
Really I mean really life is 50\50. Marriage is 50\50 no matter what anyone says. Way too hard on men I could provide doesn't I pay over for your meal and mine to show I'm responsible with 💰 lady or guy your wrong as can be. I may can provide doesn't mean I. Get broke over dinner Date I still have police, I might want too see a movie by myself. Why are men a servant now too women Look Women are Goddesses and pedestals too a point okay. But women in some arenas make more 💰 so spilling bill no problem
I would agree and it’s also about finding out if you have the same gender role ideas before even going on a date. Or asking if you should split before the date. That saves a whole lot of time lol when I was dating those were my two questions before even meeting for a date and I ended up finding people who weren’t a match and then found my wonderful husband who has the same gender role ideas as I do.
And this is one of the reasons MGTOW exists. Because of Women like this.
Enjoy yourselves guys and don't let a woman dictate to you how you should live your life.
when a man ask to split bill its a simple test to gauge the females reaction. a low quality females would get mad, a high quality females would not care
@zadose my point is proven exactly
I always pay my own
I don’t expect guy to pay
Corey Brooks 👌🏿 however a woman shouldn’t take advantage. Who goes all out and order whatever no matter the cost bc they’re not expected to pay.
Reason why guys stopped dating
Not a single one of those women pictured have pursued and asked a man out on a first date. The entitlement smh
I agree with Judy on that
Corey Brooks likes being politically correct, aint nothing wrong with just stating that a person is taking advantage of you, but anyway
I disagree that whoever asks the other person out should be responsible. What about when you meet on apps.. both are searching for someone the meet up was inevitable. I stay stick to coffee and just pay for it.
Why not
Women don't ask men out unless they're a sugar daddy and they hungry
That 'hood route' comment was so dumb... dang....
Shevelle Thomas very
dating is dating. .... maybe u shouldn't been dating
Dating is dating but as a man. And person if I go Burger King or somewhere reasonable users don't care, my Parents taught me don't be a damn fool, be. Gentlemen if a woman goes crazy ordering she's paying her half even if it's Denny's
Josip ... yes you invest in the beginning but women invest waaay more later especially once married according to stats. Especially if she dosent marry well she does 40% more work than the man 😴
Women treat men like meal tickets. Dutch first date always or not interested. Your time isn’t more valuable than mine, and that’s what you are saying by not offering to pay your part.
Do not understand the argument that whoever invites to a date pays. After all, it is socially acceptable (of course also backed up by statistics) for a man to invite on a date, so if it's like a circle ,that the man will always pay on a date. can not understand girls who talk about gender equality and still want chivalry on the part of men. As long as it is socially acceptable for a man to fund the dates the man will always earn much more than women
woman use don't be abusive
Well Corey has enough money to buy whatever he wants. Not everyone can afford everything on the menu all the time
And that simp
That’s why you meet for coffee on a first date. And by the way-since when are women paying equally since we still don’t make 100 on the dollar. Let’s talk about equality based on what each can afford.
I always felt that by taking women on a date to get them to like you is buying them and that dates should be earned because most women have a money entitlement. This Would lower the chances of use being taken advantage of or wasting money if things don’t go right.
Earned how when chances are, you are the one chasing? 🙃😴
Were giving them out time? No youve made it that they are PAYING for your time.
"whoever asks, pays" is BS when the woman never asks.
I refuse to pay for any first date with a woman I don't know well yet.
I have no obligation to pay for anything at all for a woman who is not My girlfriend period.
The more feminine and submissive and ladylike the woman turns out to be the more likely I am to start treating her like a girlfriend as far as date bills.
If she doesn't want to go on a first date with Me still after I told her that then I know exactly what she really wanted.
Same as a woman who doesn't want to sign a prenuptial etc before marriage.
She wanted your money
and a foodie call.
We go Dutch.
Or I am taking them on a free date that costs Me nothing other then food I was already going to eat anyways. Like a gancy picnic buy with what I was already going to eat anyways whether on a date or not.
This guy with this girl.. if I were there with him personally; which is to say at a distance at the same location with that girl; and she was ordering the entire menu at his expense; here's what I would do;
First I'd wait until he was alone because you know she's going going to use the bathroom..
I'd sneak in and with every subtle tactic I know at my disposal I'd convince him as quickly as possible before she gets back from the bathroom; SEPARATE CHECKS...
I'm not paying for nothing but mine.
my first meal with my wife was at a Mcdonalds XD
Ladies,
Be able to pay. Offer to pay. If he’s a gentleman he will respect that about you and he will take the bill. I would .
If he doesn’t take the bill, DONT MAKE A HABIT OF PAYING .... he’s a BUM!
(Drop the mic)
No, he's just smart. Ofcourse though, it should be 50/50
I really go based on how much they actually look like their Instagram
Simple as a single man just do not Date , try the mgtow menu much better and cheaper as well.
Not if my buddies call to go out , they don't pay for me. Thirsty males pay
Sometimes I swear some women are just out for a feel meal and drinks I'm a chick and I dont see the reasons behind this. I'm glad my boyfriend and I got a system. He pays for a date i pay for the next. We take turns. He was a simp when we got together and I broke that out of him. I raised him out of that. And it was hard to get him on that system. The women before me took advantage of him. Everytime he buys me a gift I buy him one. As I see it relationships should be working together and making sure it benefits both parties. I make sure he doesn't go hungry and I make sure I'm fed too.
thats bull..if i take her out ..am paying...if I cant pay, I wont be there! but as a man...you should always pay! always!
I love Corey Brooks
If the woman doesn't at least offer to split, then don't go on a second date. But the man should always pay
Nah
Lol most girls are offering and then getting offended or ghosting you if you accept. I think that’s much worse. Better if the girl is upfront. 😴
I feel like going on a date right now.😆I wanna spoil someone's son. This was helpful by the way for my podcast
Lol, Girl bye...don't ever play yourself like that. U will only attract leeches broke feminine energy dudes. Successful men aren't about that life they want to take care of a woman they want. I've never paid for dates so i feel sorry for women who do. Men who see you as a prize want to impress you and not expect anything.
@@betvdaytime I agree
The man can expect what he wants it dosent mean you have to do give it. He could’ve just not asked you out.
Or ask for separate checks lol
The man should pay.
@Josip gv sex
The man should pay ? And are you going to suck them off and fuck them
No.
Depends on who, asked who out.
99% of the time it is the man who asks the woman out. So that's a stupid argument.
I’m with Cory
Ms Ho is very attractive.
I’m not splitting no bill
What happened to equality? Does it not apply with money.
Agent Of Vengeance like l said I’m not splitting no bill!!
@@talicia18
Wow. That's pretty selfish.
You don't even want to pay for your own food.
@zadose
I'm not a feminist. In fact, I am quite against it. And I am more than willing to pay.
Your the one who's broke or cheap if you can't even pay for your own food.
Expecting for free shit, Men don't owe you anything.
With a face like that you ain't getting asked on no date either
Ryan was a cutie/Studmuffin the girl he took out was “totally” wrong. I’ve often been asked out or even planned asked for the outing and the guy/man has still offered to pay or treat. I’m often appreciative of it and still have even offered to split or add in the tip. I don’t put high expectations out, or think I owe anything in return. But certainly do not take advantage. Pretty great and cool conversation.
That "whoever asks out should pay" is bs. Women rarely ask out men. 99% of the time it's the men who are asking women out. First dates should always be people paying for their own food.
Real men pay for the dates! It's as simple as that!!
This is the game so sht up and get with it! 😤🙄
Equality has nothing to do with relationships and love!
If you want the girl, invest in her! Treat her right! Stop acting stingy and bitter and then be MORE BITTER that you are a lonely mess!
Stop being pathetic and man up!!
Also women who do asks the guys out, you guys don't even fking respect them!
What is good does never come easy!
Grow up!!
Junior chicken and small fries🍟
Hell no. A real man know this is the right thing to do. Have a small budget? Then take me to McDonald’s! A man who can’t offer me a plate of food on a first date won’t get a second; as simple as that. And no, I don’t owe you more than my company that evening. Men, it’s an honor to take a woman out!
No it's not. All y'all do is end up scrutinizing and bashing a man for it. If he pays for something you owe, you owe him BIG TIME!
Foodie calls are REAL, happened to me twice, if a woman is unwilling to pay $40 for her meal, she won't spend a dime on you. Men are required to come up with the date ideas and are required to pay for everything on dates, that was fine in the 1950s going to the Malt bar, but women make more money than ever, they can pay their fair share.