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- They Want you to own nothing and like it. In this unscripted video, let's dig into that statement and why more and more physical media fans are saying it.
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"you will own nothing, and like it!" originalities from the interpretation of something Klaus Schwab from the WEF said
Yes, it sure does, and most of the people saying it have no clue what the original context is. They're using it to represent "the other" who they hate and who they think is trying to destroy their way of life. (Which I suppose in some ways is true)
The thing is, it's not restricted to movies. Corporations are all shifting towards models of non-ownership. Music, video games, car leases, subscription services, companies buying up single family homes that's making home ownership harder for average people.
It's far more profitable to rent you something in perpetuity than sell it to you once.
@@CerealAtMidnight But this "other" is trying to destroy our way of life. It's in the very source of the vision from WEF itself. They are promoting a future where you don't own a house, a car or any other large physical entity. They are combining this with a Neo-Fascist / Neo-Marxist society with no privacy, and no individual agency.
This is "the other", this is the vision of the socialists and the ultra-rich globalists. What we are seeing is a rebirth of the fascism of the 30s and 40s (that looks very much like the national socialism of Germany) combined with the Marxism of the Soviet Union. It's not wrong to identify these people, they exist, and they are very busy trying to take away what we have.
@@martianwoodpeckerThat last sentence says it all. That's exactly their logic with media.
I might not have known where the phrase comes from originally, but the point the phrase is used to make still stands.
Exactly! @@martianwoodpecker
"you will own nothing and like it" is not just reserved for physical media
I've seen the younger generations using it when it comes to home ownership, car leases, etc.
And video games aswell, theres the thing Ubisoft said about gamers better get use to not owning there games.
it's not the decline of "physical media" but rather it's the decline of people
Too true.
And the decline in modern movies.
most new movies are absolute shite
@@jamied1579☝️This! I own all the older movies I want. I've stopped buying anything except in a rare case because there's nothing coming out that I want to view over and over. Once is enough.
They're far from being mutually exclusive.
The anxiety I think stems partly from censorship. We want movies as they were originally presented, not edited or removed altogether.
Thankfully there have only been a few instances of that, and I believe they've been corrected as soon as we protested. It's funny though: when The French Connection was censored, thousands of people bought the Blu-ray---from Disney, who censored The French Connection.
Corporations always own the answer to the problem they create.
It's not just censorship. For instance, The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain is available for streaming on Amazon Prime Video here in Canada. Well, guess what? It's the freaking old Canadian DVD edition (from Alliance Atlantis, which have changed hands a few times over the past several years and haven't been called that in forever) in 4:3, and with no subtitles either (when it's one of those movies that require them because of the thick Welsh accent).
For me collecting is mostly about the perks of physical releases (I love higher fidelity, bonus materials, feeling of owning a collection, etc.) but I can't deny there is also a small mix of paranoia of "what happens if the streaming model DOES prevail?" Or at the very least, a near future where physical media is finally no longer supported or licensed out by the major studios, what happens? Even if it's just certain films belonging to specific studios no longer available.
Because lately it seems studio attitudes towards removing shows/films from existence to save money is becoming more acceptable among the major streamers. So, as horrifying and absurd as it may sound, could that attitude eventually be applied to any older films they don't care to provide to the public any longer? When every new project becomes "hours of content" competing for audiences' time, will the studios that hold a monopoly decide to shelve their older film libraries to promote only the newer stuff? When the day comes when we will have no (legal) alternatives to access certain films/series beside the old remaining physical copies still out there, as unlikely as that reality hopefully may even be, the threat of that dystopian nightmare still feels plausible enough I'd rather just be prepared for that future. It's a great time right now for physical media and I just want to buy these great releases while we know we'll have them.
From Wikipedia: "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" is a phrase originating in a 2016 video by the World Economic Forum (WEF), summarising an essay written by Danish politician Ida Auken. The phrase has been used by critics who accuse the WEF of desiring restrictions on ownership of private property.
Nobody wants you to own nothing and like it. Speak to the CEO of Ubisoft. He said EXACTLY that.
Said that they do or don't? That statement was a bit confusing.
Your point that it's a bigger issue than media is spot on. The same thing is happening in tech, finance, cars, groceries, etc. Basically every industry. The biggest companies in every sector have run out of ideas for how to keep growing and keep their shareholders happy so they start gobbling up smaller rivals and jump on whatever new trend comes along whether or not they understand it or know how to implement it.
I had one of my brothers mate round looking at my shelves full of physical media, he says it's worthless, it's all about streaming now. Nobody will stop me buying physical media😊
The various thrift stores don't seem to think it's worthless. Most outlets filter through stuff and sell it online.
Sure, as long as what you want to watch is available to stream and you subscribe to every streaming service.
I'd tell him he's worthless
Physical media is like any other hobby. There are those that enjoy it and those that could care less.
Worthless to who? You're buying them for you, not for others. They have worth to you.
A few years ago, I was in a store picking up some movies for black friday and some guy saw the movies in my cart and was like, "You know you can watch all those for free online." Trying my best not to let out the biggest sigh, I was just like, Mm-hm. That's cool. Take care. Bye bye
They ultimately want to charge the customer EVERY time they watch a movie.
They hate the fact you can buy a physical copy and watch it dozens or even hundreds of times for a one-off cost.
The music industry is the same.
They can only do this if physical media doesn't exist.
I agree. That is what studios would love. That was the business model behind DivX back in the day.
A pipe dream when piracy is so accessible.
Owning a physical copy of a film is pointless as you get bored watching one film after another dozen times . There’s far too much content out there to even watch a film more than twice!
@knownpleasures 1000s of collectors will disagree with you... including myself, and Heath, more than likely.
The best is I usually buy used so none of those studios get my cash lol
I think that the powers that be want you to own nothing and like it. I think we as the consumers have forced them to sell us physical media which is what they dont want. So, yes I still think they want us to own nothing and like it but the market has forced the powers that be to make physical media.
Here in New England, there is a chain of stores originally based in Maine called Bull Moose. They sell all BD, 4K, DVD, CD. They expanded to New Hampshire and now there are about 11 or 12 locations between the 2 states. They were going to expand to Massachusetts, but the taxes are too high. They carry Scream Factory, Severin, Vinegar Syndrome, Mondo Macabro, etc.
The guys who run Vinegar Syndrome run a place called The Archive in Bridgeport Connecticut. Last I heard, they were opening another store elsewhere in Connecticut.
There are new mom and pop places popping up here in Boston. There will always be cinephiles. I'm in a nursing home, trying to walk again. There is a nurses aide here, who is 18 years old. She told me her favorite film is La Bamba.
I predict streaming will crash and burn before 2030. People will be fed up with the high bills, lack of selection and the clampdown on password sharing.
SO here's the big question: streaming is already billions in the hole. At what point do the studios say "well, this didn't work." And when they do, what do WE do? Do we go back to cable? We certainly can't afford to buy everything we want to own at 30-50 bucks a pop.
I love Bull Moose. The Salem NH location is the closest to me. I just heard they're going to be moving it to Plaistow NH. That Salem store has a boutique section in their Blu-rays, and the largest DVD section I've ever seen. I hope its new location isn't too much of a pain to get to.
@@CerealAtMidnighttry to throw contracts at people as a last ditch effort to save streaming.
@@Mr_Ghoulie I checked on Maps because, even though I am in this nursing home, I plan to get out of this place and spend so much at Plaistow that their heads will spin. From what l gather, Plaistow is only 15 minutes away. The only other Bull Moose I went to was the one in Portsmouth, NH. That was a 2 hour drive each way from my place in Wellesley, MA. As opposed to 40 minutes to get to Salem, one thing I will miss is stopping by the SPCA place on the border, where they have horses and cows.
@@CerealAtMidnight I believe the streaming services will consolidate into just a couple of services. I believe that Netflix has shown it can be profitable but only at a certain sized customer base. I also believe that the studios have to realize that their content is not as valuable to the public as they think it is. When a streamer is paying $500 million for the rights to "The Office" that makes it very hard for a streamer to be profitable. Licensing fees are going to have to come down to a reasonable amount.
You are ABSOLUTELY right! I lost my interest in movies since 2016 and on because movies today(mostly) are crap and not worth my time, although in the last 2 years or so I have been watching OLDER MOVIES. I think that is how I found YOUR Channel! You love the older stuff and I THANK you for keeping it ALIVE!😎👍
same!...there is a lifetime of older films to explore and enjoy.
Like when Steve Reeves or Gordon Scott plays Hercules, the son of Zeus.
the streaming model is unsustainable and therefore will inevitably implode
Yes, and when it does, it's looking more and more like it will take the business down with it.
@@CerealAtMidnight exactly
So what you're saying is, buy all the toilet paper?
It's already imploding. Larry Fink (BlackRock) said at the WEF that his organisation and others are forcing 'behaviours' on the organisations they bankroll. BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street have a controlling 20 per cent institutional stockholder bloc in almost every Fortune 500 company: every Hollywood studio and TV company except Japanese Sony, Ford, GM, Apple, Meta, Netflix, Amazon, Alphabet, Coca Cola. The companies are all insanely in debt. The investment banks are then forcing them to carry political messaging, use DEI and ESG systems in their 'culture' in order not to have the money taps turned off. This becomes most obvious in entertainment. DEI and ESG are anathema to mass entertainment, guaranteeing 50 per cent of the audience are being pushed away.
Streaming isn't an inherently unsustainable model. The way it's being handled right now is. It being as fractured as it is is what makes it unsustainable - if there were only a handful of companies streaming then they'd all be thriving.
Even with the fracturing, Netflix is still quite profitable at the moment despite all of their ills.
The biggest issue I think is that all of our attention spans have been diminishing for years so wanting to actually OWN a title seems silly now. Most people probably think they will have no desire to ever watch something more than once so why own it? This is fed by streaming and CZcams (I myself even have problems with YT videos that are too long!) and the instant fulfillment of our fast speed internet culture. I have cut back on my physical media purchases simply because my impatience has increased with watching stuff. A lot of what streams and is produced as entertainment now is very disposable and not worth owning even on an aesthetic level so we are training our tastes and attention spans to be less patient and jumping from one thing to another.
Honestly I don't really care for new releases... So I don't need those on physical media. Most movies and series today are kind of disappointing and generic.
I have all my favorite movies from past decades on DVD and I can rewatch them. Also I even discover new stuff from the 40s, 50s, 60s and so on every week. There is so much old stuff and it is way better for me anyways.
Everyone has personal preferences and opinions but when I hear someone say it was better in my day, it kind of makes me laugh. And I am 55 years old!
I agree that the movie studios have lost the ability to make movies of interest.
Fall Guy is incredible and Furiosa is being hailed as the best movie of the year!
It's "You'll own nothing and be happy".
I've mentioned this in a past video but I think a lot of this comes from the way the gaming industry is handling digital and major companies like Ubisoft saying literally what is in your thumbnail.
I can't speak to games, since that's not my world and I don't know anyone who makes them or sells them. I'm not really sure how any corporation thinks they can stop fans from owning something in a world where piracy is as easy as clicking a couple of buttons.
I agree that it is from the videogame industry but with Sony and Microsoft closing studios and laying off employees, the gamepass type model is stagnant and starting to fail.
Then you get Assassin's Creed Shadow physical release indicating " Internet required to install the game." So I guess you don't even own the physical."
Yes! That Xbox news last week is a mess. They bought all those developers and then fired them? Nice job, huge corporation.
@@scaps2200Even worse, that seems to be some form of DRM they're sneaking in.
I think you missed the point. “They want you to own nothing & Like it” doesn’t just pertain to movies. Video game industry is moving away from physical games & when a studio shuts down a server you can no longer play that game. All the major book retailers other than Barnes & Noble went out of business when the fad of buying books digitally started. There are no more music stores & big box stores that use to carry music now have moved to just collectible vinyl. The automotive industry has priced people out of buying new cars & we have seen a huge uptick in leases. You pointed out they want you to stream & you pointed out they still want to sell you stuff. The point is that goes hand in hand. They want to sell you the same thing every month. That service to listen to music. That service to watch movies. That service to watch TV. That automotive lease that when it runs out you have to start another. The goal is you own nothing so you have to pay forever. These companies are not trying to sell you on digital downloads. Those are a thing in music, movies, & books, however they want you to rely on streaming. Because it use to be if there isn’t a movie you want to buy in a month you just don’t spend the money & watch one you already own. But with streaming if they don’t release something you want to watch that month, they know you will stay subscribed because you don’t own anything else to watch & they make it difficult to unsubscribe & easy to forget to unsubscribe. The key is retention. The only streaming service to succeed at that is Netflix but that’s what every streaming service wants, you to pay them every single month for the rest of your life.
I didn't miss the point. Maybe you missed mine?
You missed the point. Most consumers WANT to own nothing.
@@crystallaner230No, most consumers click the “buy” option on digital media and think it means they own it because it says buy. Then when it’s delisted they complain online.
Noticed you have a whole bunch of TV show box sets behind you, many of 'em classics, and quite a few of which I have as well.
I was looking at the same thing. haha
One reason I haven't bought much physical media lately: they're not putting out movies on 4K. If they ONLY release that film on 1080p disc, when the studios know damn well they could spend an extra dollar to produce a disc with TWICE the resolution, they will not get my money. 1080p is an outdated format and it's ridiculous that they would expect people to buy that and then buy the 4K a year later
I agree with you 100% but somehow we get outvoted by a majority of people still buying DVD even though it's inferior to both... by a lot.
Nice job Heath. Appreciate the segment. By the way love the WKRP in Cincinnati box set. That’s my all time favorite show!
At this rate, people are end up going to be OK with something like "toothbrushes as a service".
Love this video. Thank you for speaking out on this.
I agree with your main point, I will say on a grander scale beyond movies I think the corporate overlords are the ones who want to sell you the same thing as many times as possible. Subscriptions forever, incomplete products or take functionality away from products to sell and repackage later, and I think that is a form of never truly owning anything. Planned obsolescence etc, I think that’s somewhat apparent.
Well, some of that is just business. Selling the same asset as many times as possible is just good business. And I say that as someone who is excited about the new 4K announcement for The Lady From Shanghai, a movie I already own FOUR copies of!
@@CerealAtMidnight Yeah absolutely
if streaming services told you they would Cut the Music and audio quality - and cut up all the classic movies and then randomly cut movies with no notice - no one would support streaming
Love these unscrpited videos
I think you need to look at this from a couple of angles. Firstly, streaming provides a guaranteed revenue stream in terms of subscribers. It gets reflected on the balance sheet and as long as you can hold the subscribers for a fixed term, that is all reflected in the company bottom line. Secondly, it allows the studios to truly deny consumers from owning the content, rather a licence to view the content that can be revoked at any time. Where I think the studios have failed with the streaming model is the constant revisions made to movies (eg The French Connection) and pulling content from libraries at will. I'll stick to my physical media that I can view when I want to watch and how I want to watch thank you very much.
Greed drove Hollywood to streaming.
They honestly believed they could replace cinema and physical media, while getting subscriptions forever and have all the money to themselves.
Hollywood also stopped taking risks. Movies became stale and boring.
Things move in trends. Somewhere this will balance out. I honestly believe that streaming and physical media will exist for a very long time as viable business models.
I'm baffled at people who say stuff like, DVDs? They still exist? Or whatever? It's always a doomsday situation. Yes, discs on any format still exists.
Thanks Heath you are spot on. Tik-Tok, podcasting, youtube, etc. and so many other things are competing for our attention (For myself my theory is that anybody will be able to make their own movies exactly how they want with total creative control through A.I.). Yes, there will always be a demand from the public for entertainment but as they say "the times are a changing".
This has happened because people, especially younger generations, have had their attention span completely ruined by social media, tiktok etc. It's the endless bombardment of "short clips" - such that people's brains have been rewired and they can't even sit and focus on a movie anymore - so the demand for movies in general is declining.
The movie studios are pumping out movies aimed at the younger crowd who don't have the attention span for them, while the 30-40+ crowd are watching the older movies.
One of the things I fear is if they stop manufacturing blu ray players and in the future mine breaks, i could be a in a lot of trouble.
I agree especially about the apathy. If everyone wanted physical media it would be everywhere making lots of money. When I used to talk about how I had hundreds and hundreds of movies (now 2000+) people would be kind of impressed. Now they say things like “why?” or “oh, I just stream stuff.”
Great video Heath. Very interesting.
The decline started 10 or so years ago when studios started putting movies out on digital a week or so before they were on disc. That was a blatant ploy to get people to stop buying discs but they haven’t been called out on that enough.
The joke’s on them though because now I can watch PIRATED copies of these digital movies (in 4k and Atmos most of the time). If the discs were still in stores I’d do the right thing and buy them, but they’ve been discouraging that. I’m not going to pay for digital movies, if they want me to watch them that way then I’ll just steal them.
I think you are 100% right about everything you said. Companies are in business to sell things.
🤔😒... Apparently not Disney. They have hundreds and hundreds of films that they could be restoring and putting on 4KUHD that collectors, like myself, would pay premiums for...
No... Let's put Moonknight on 4k that only a few people give a crap about... But let's skip over and hold onto The French Connection. Occasionally, Evil_Corp bends when there is enough outrage from the general public, for example Aliens. Why did it take until now to get it? Disney and Cameron...
But for the most part Disney is a bunch of pricks. They won't license it to smaller studios, but they won't do it themselves either.
Another great video from CZcams's gold standard of physical media and cinema analysis (aside from me lol) People do tend to put on their doom hats and look for the shadow-y evil corporations. Doctor Who recently moved its streaming over to Disney Plus outside of the UK because it made more sense. Now its just being streamed there but to didn't stop people from their cringe takes on how Disney will ruin Doctor Who.
Apathy is the true enemy cannot be a more dead on comment. Also might I suggest it as a possible t shirt ? It's not just physical media , look at how films are doing now in theatres. Some will say but look the films have changed, but honestly we have changed. When you can have a big screen tv that outputs dolby atmos sound quality and watch without someone talking, kicking your seat or over-priced food its going to be tempting to wait to watch films in the comfort of your living room.
Businesses will always be run shockingly like businesses. It's something we need to expect without putting on the tin foil hats.
Another great video with a brave take.
Thanks, Aaron! That means a lot.
I actually donated all my dvds when netflix came out. I thought it was like a digital library. Boy was I wrong. Building it back now
I own too much and probably like it too much as well. I guess I'm too old to be a part of what you're talking about. I'm overwhelmed with the amount of new physical media titles being announced while trying to make time to watch all the stuff I already own. I remember going to the theatre ever since I was a kid and wishing that I could just skip the crowds and enjoy the experience at home without an audience. Now it's a dream come true - and the experience surpasses anything most theatres can currently offer me. I'm just pissed that I don't have the million plus to get one of those home Imax set ups.
Very topical video and commentary. What I find interesting is that almost the exact same thing is happening in the video game world right now, where mega corporations are consolidating all these smaller studios and spending tons of money and they're all in the red and no one at the top knows what to do. You mentioned music and print being dead, I'm guessing video games will be next.
I’m just going to buy discs, players, whatever for as long as I can, for as long as they’re made. Nobody forced us to move away from VHS, we left. If we don’t leave, if we keep the discs, they’re staying. Forever.
there are so many Fox movies people want to buy but Disney won't release them on physical media they want to make people subscribe to watch them
Another epic discussion!
I'm like a dinosaur Heath! You're correct about streaming & that's why I don't subscribe to very many services anymore! Thank you for keeping us informed! I appreciate your channel!
Those industries are in trouble because piracy became widely available, streaming is just a way to try to catch up to it. The point is that the huge majority of people are not willing to pay for their entertainment the same price they would pay for a cappuchino at Starbucks. They got used to getting music, movies and books for free, so they will pay only if it’s very very cheap. The price you used to pay to rent 2 or 3 movies is the price you now pay now per month to have access to thousands of movies an tv shows. Physical media is a niche for a very small minority (i’m included in that), but the mainstream has nothing to do with us
Business have always overvalued the price of their products. When the price points don't match, then people will either not buy the product or find it cheaper somewhere else. I remember the initial costs to buy a VHS tape was $100+. People were not willing to pay that price so they copied. When the prices came down around the $20 range, then people started buying rather than copying.
Insightful as always. I think the most compelling thing you said is that people just aren't as interested in movies anymore, and I will take this a step further, which essentially reinforces the title of the video. People in general are not interested in owning things anymore, and instead want experiences. Instead of buying a movie or video game for someone's birthday, many will buy concert tickets or take them out to a bar/restaurant/club/whatever. I think this is very prevalent in the millennial generation and younger now. I keep wondering if my blu-ray collection will end up worthless since things are only worth what someone is willing to pay. Will anyone pay for these movies in 30 years? Only time will tell.
Thanks, and yeah, I think about this a lot too. I'm starting to have DVDs fail on me, so I'm realizing that all these movies I bought and thought I'd have to watch when I was 60 or 70 might not even play in a decade or two. Collectors are wired for OCD and tangibility, but it doesn't mean much when the technology we've been collecting fails over time.
Why pay money for something if you don't really own it?
Same reason we rented movies at Blockbuster back in the day. Or the same reason that I will support a band I like that can't afford to have CDs or vinyl pressed. Why pay money for a meal when you're only gonna crap it out? You know in the UK they pay a TV tax? Why pay for programming you're not going to watch? How far do we pull at that thread?
@@CerealAtMidnight Yes but rentals were significantly cheaper. Even Redbox used to charge only $2 for a one-night Blu-ray rental. Pretty much every rental I see on Vudu or Apple they want $3.99-5.99 for a 24-hour rental window. The difference with buying vinyl or a CD is that it isn't vaporware. I bought the Mobile Fidelity SACD of Van Halen 1. Warner Brothers or Mobile Fidelity isn't going to decide I no longer own it after they sell the rights and delete it, saying I don't have a right to listen to it anymore. The whole idea that paying (especially when the button says "purchase") isn't ownership is a little ridiculous. And in that situation, I find piracy totally justifiable.
@@CerealAtMidnight
Ah yes the BBC ‘TV License.’ I have lots of fun ignoring their letters and turning them away at my door.🤣🤣
A rental from Blockbuster was $3 in 1995. A digital rental is $3 now. The cheap, legal option is still there, some people just prefer to steal.
@@CerealAtMidnight Digital rentals are between $3.99 and $5.99. That's $4-6. Redbox used to charge $1.50 then raised it to $2 and that was for a 24-hour rental. That was only a few years ago. I prefer the five finger discount. If they want me to pay, start making better movies and charging more reasonable prices for them. I'm not paying $30 for a 4K Blu-ray of something I already own especially when you have to return it 2 times because they're all scratched.
I went to the electronics department of my local Walmart Supercenter and asked if they had The Crow 4K in stock and they guy said: "We don't carry titles like that anymore because most people don't buy movies anymore. We only have popular movies like Transformers." Lol meanwhile they have David Cronenberg's Shivers, Children Of The Corn, and I Know What You Did Last Summer out on the shelves.
Uninformed sales people at Walmart. Please excuse me for not being shocked.
Sounds about right there’s the apathy I’m talking about.
Corporate greed and incompetent company CEOs who only see $$$ and have no idea what the general public actually wants. I think that nails it.
This is so true. They did it to the radio industry... a whole bunch of execs who don't like music, don't understand radio, and just continue to drive the whole thing into the ground.
physical media may be dying in north america, but when i was in japan last year people were buying lots of it... because brick and mortar retail is still thriving over there. i think its because their communities are more walkable and people go shopping as part of their walking commutes every day. also malls are still a strong "third place" over there. i went to several shops over there that sold cds and blu rays / 4ks and the stores were doing great business. even more shocking / surprising, there were tons of young people buying the physical media too.
i think in the west we have self-fulfilling prophecies. they think physical media is dying, so retail shops pull out of the business entirely, so physical media dies more. its a snake eating its own tail.
i think movies can absolutely have a resurgence like vinyl has. i think cds can too. the boutique blu ray scene is a good start. maybe we need a "record store day" for movies lol. but streaming will never stop sucking. and all of these legacy film companies will continue to kill themselves. just like indie vinyl labels started the resurgence of vinyl, boutique blu ray labels will hold up the movie market.
who's going to be the boutique blu ray taylor swift? christopher nolan? lol
This is a really interesting take because as someone who lives abroad. I recently travelled to Paris and noticed the same thing that you did. There is a very vibrant shopping culture there and a strong physical media presence. I walked through various shops like Gilbert Joseph, FNAC and Metaluna among others and was refreshingly surprised with how different the take is over there. Physical media is definitely becoming more online on a worldwide basis but the record store analogy is 100% where this goes in a world where Boutique labels do tend to still stand out. Italy is my next trip and Japan is on my bucket list as one of the places I most want to visit .
@@CultofCinema Put Japan first in your list, Aaron, and remember one name (for many places): MANDARAKE Is japanese heaven on earth, in Japan!
Greetings from Sweden!
I believe that quote is going around physical media circles due to there being an overlap between tv/movie collectors and physical game collectors.
The Ubisoft CEO recently made a statement around wanting to get gamers comfortable with not owning their games in favor of streaming/SAAS, so that quote has basically become a rallying cry when protesting AAA games in favor of physical media.
And Phil Spencer recently referred to digital ownership as "entitlements". IE, they can be taken away.
You said, "When you support a corporation that does something you don't like, you're supporting the thing you don't like." I don't entirely agree. First, I believe that we should act in ways that supports the world we'd like to see. I buy a lot of physical media. And, I believe, that if suddenly (and miraculously) 10 million more people followed my behavior, that would cause a shift in these studios' behavior to the point where they'd funnel more resources into selling PM.
Meaning, the more PM we support, the more PM we're likely to get.
Besides, as you always say, vote with our wallets. I firmly believe in that saying. I don't believe that if millions more people suddenly bought PM, that it would only yield a more pro-streaming world.
"The more PM we support, the more we are likely to get."
Probably. Hopefully. But also we have to acknowledge that Disney is pumping every ounce of their profits into trying to make Disney Plus profitable. What we support in one area is funding the thing so many people are angry at.
@@CerealAtMidnight I think you should to talk to Disney , not Walt, but someone in charge there, we wanna see that chat, man!
Greetings from Sweden!
Disney doesn't like me because I make videos like this.
@@CerealAtMidnightAnd you are telling the truth. Got me a spaniard blu-ray copy of Song of The South a few weeks ago. A man gotta do watta man gotta do!
Keep up the good work
Stopped buying anything on kindle. Now I pay more to ger the physical book. Slowly searching out used copies of the books I bought on kindle over the years. Just don't want to let digital stuff magically disappear someday.
I have kids & yes they like playing video games, watching shows, watching CZcams & TikTok/Reels but they also like going to the movies. My oldest son goes to the movies all the time. This younger generation may not be interested in owning physical media (they buy digital movies) but they do support & enjoy going out to the theater to see movies. In a way they too are keeping physical media alive.
The real issue is that movies that are being made now in general are not worth buying because they stink. Steaming can't get an audience because the quality of the movies stink.
Klaus schwab of the world economic forum said that....about 5 yrs ago....thats real
WEF and Klaus Schwab are the Jesuit Order, they run the show behind the scenes.
He didn't say what this guy said, what he said was "You'll own nothing and be happy".
@@randysalsman6992basically the same thing
@@randysalsman6992 And take your mystery juice for depopulation 😂
@@randysalsman6992that's why people won't own houses anymore.
I don't think this statement applies to physical media. My biggest fear is studios censoring content as a form of virtue signaling that they really don't believe in (i.e. Disney). I'm in my mid 40's now. There is so much product being released I would have to spend almost every waking hour watching tv to keep up. There's so much backlog currently in my collection it will take months to get through it all. This doesn't even include titles that are announced or releases that I want to own. Think of all the content coming out every month from labels like Kino, Warner Archive, Severin, VCI, Vinegar Syndrome, Shout, MVD, the list goes on. I for one can't keep up there's so much.
You tell'em Heat tell'em!🤑 I'm 100% physical I don't stream. I know this young woman who's a horror fan and streams everything and when I buy movies that comes with a digital download I give them to her. My younger cousins have never seen a VHS or bearly know what a magazine is. And of course everything they consume is through computer laptops or tablets. And don't care about movies at all. What do they consider entertainment? Tik Tok!😭 The old geezers like me are the ones who keep movies alive. Good topic and cool video Heath!👉🙂👈
With recent inflation, folks are cutting back on all entertainment.
Does that German Baywatch set on you shelf have the original music?
It sure does!
@@CerealAtMidnight Thank you! Do you happen to know if it is still sold?
Unless there have been changes since I bought mine, this is the same set I have. It has German menus, but English audio is available for all episodes.
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Thank you, I really appreciate it.
@@CerealAtMidnight Bought it and received it. It is great with the original music. Thank you for your help!
I don't subscribe to a single streaming service other than Prime Video which comes with my Prime Membership.
For me it's 100% physical media and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Not even that, but younger generations are minimalist and convenience, not staying long in there homes moving one place to another and only want to carry the least and get it and the drop of a hat from food to services.
Im feeling this effect as a stereoscopic film enthusiast. Most 3D films arent getting disc releases. Do these companies seriously expect me to buy or rent an inferior flat version? Theyre not getting a penny.
I’m disgusted at how the industry mishandled and then killed 3D. I’ve been buying every 3D title that’s come out but obviously there’s been fewer of them recently. I don’t have much enthusiasm for buying a new 2D movie now.
It's also space in your home. Think of all the DVD's that were bought by the general public and put on a shelf. People are just packed to the roof with stuff. I have boxes and boxes...
It’s interesting when you get together with people, they don’t ask anymore what movies you’ve recently seen, they ask what shows you’re watching.
"Series" as they call them. Everybody has one to recommed or ask "Have you seen...?"
The general public would eat crap from a spoon if it suddenly started getting pushed on social media lol. In the end, people just want to do literally nothing. That’s why algorithmic suggestions are so popular. You don’t even have to think about what you want to watch, it gets shown to you.
I kinka disagree with Heath, here. Studios may not want to force folks into streaming, but I absolutely believe they push people to buy digitally over physically. Why else would you be able to buy movies digitally weeks or months before the physical copies are released? They don't have to pay for manufacturing or distributing the discs if they are selling digitally. Then, you don't truly "own" digital copies as they are perpetual rentals for as long as the platform you "bought" them on have the rights to offer those films to you. I think THAT is where "they want you to own nothing and like it" comes from. Well, that and car makers.
A lot of people I talk to in my daily life prefer watching tv shows over movies. That’s just my experience. They’ll ask me if I’ve seen the latest show on streaming and rarely ask me what movies I’ve watched lately.
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But genuinely, if these streamers are losing so much money, do you not think it would make sense (from a financial standpoint of these companies) that they would band together and edge towards releasing physical media again? If people had no other choice but to buy physical media to watch their favourite shows/movies, they will inevitably do so, no? All these subscription based services, people will always just register and un-register whenever they feel like with regards to streaming services. One months sub is the cost of one physical disc practically, it literally only makes sense for them to make physical media dominant again.! But of course in modern times, convenience seems to overrule everything else on the consumer side of things.
If the audience is there to BUY that physical media, then yes, but the audience is not there. Despite the decay of streaming and how much money it continues to lose, physical media is not growing, it's shrinking. With 60-100 disc releases hitting every single week, that audience is still shrinking, not growing. My end statement is true: most people just don't care.
@@CerealAtMidnight I definitely agree with your sentiment. Nothing will return to what it used to be like regardless of whether there is a renaissance of sorts, that's just how things change. Definitely the younger generation just seem to care less about movies (be it in the theatre or at home watching) and prefer YT and other sources of 'content', sad shame really.
As I get older, I'm a lot less worried about what other people are doing. I'm realizing time is short and we should all probably just try to find some happiness instead of being so angry at one another all the time.
@CerealAtMidnight if there were no streaming, the audience would be the same size for physical media that it was in its heyday
@@CerealAtMidnight I believe that the whole concept of Home Theater is dying too which then takes down physical media. Too many younger people are content to watch movies/shows on a phone or small computer screen nowadays.
I will not comply.
They don't care about dvds. What they don't want you to own is your own house.
💯 Fact
Who is they?
@@CerealAtMidnight The Jesuits.
@@CerealAtMidnightGlobalists like the WEF and their cronies.
@@CerealAtMidnight in that specific case, Blackrock
Don’t kid yourself. The decline is in the movies themselves! Who wants to physically own a shitty movie?
"You will own nothing, and be happy" This is how you create slaves.
I have never understood why the studio streaming services, after the theatrical run, do not move their movie first to PPV and Physical media and then to the streaming service 6-12 months later. Moving it so quickly to streaming hurts the box office since why pay $15-$20 to attend a movie when I can wait a few weeks and see it on the streamer.
New movie intrest is on the decline because of all the politics forced into new movies - Old Movie intrest couldnt be higher - highest streamed shows are all 90's 80's shows - people still watch that stuff constantly
I rarely watch anyything post 2000. Everything is bland and ugly now.
Some very valid and true points are made in this video.
But I will say that I do think there is at least SOME truth to the statement, "they want you to own NOTHING and like it." In other words, rather than having customers buy something once (i.e. a physical disc of a movie), they would rather sell an ongoing subscription and get people to pay for these things continuously... at least in theory.
Yes, their primary goal, especially at the executive/leadership level, is to make money, and they will generally try to to what they can to achieve that goal... including selling physical media if it comes down to it. But - even if it was a miscalculation on their part given how most of these streaming services have been doing - there does seem to be a pretty clear cut effort to undermine their own physical media releases, when sometimes these streaming services get the movies (after their theatrical runs) either before the physical release or so shortly thereafter that it gives people little incentive to purchase it. If there wasn't at least some desire to have streaming services replace physical media rather than be in addition to it, they would likely let the physical releases come out first, and then have the movie go on the streaming services a couple/few months later. And in that case they would probably make more money overall.
But they have stopped promoting physical media and even gone to these lengths to undercut it. And with the general public getting so used to streaming and digital distribution as a result, that's why many don't even realize that discs are still being made.
I think the reason why we Disney has even been putting out physical releases of some of the Disney+ Marvel and Star Wars shows for those who want them is more in response to the streaming service not being profitable like they had hoped, and them desperately trying to find ways to make at least some more money off of the shows that they have already dumped a lot of money into. I think that is why it took so long for them to even start releasing them physically. They likely had no intention of ever doing so early on.... hoping the service would be very profitable and people would keep their subscriptions to be able to watch and rewatch these shows. But it hasn't been panning out that way, so they did what they had to under the circumstances.
I don't deny that there are some people at these studios who do care about physical media and want to bring out quality releases. And it is great that there are at least some people advocating for it. I don't think this mentally necessarily extents to EVERY single person working any given studio. But it is a mentality that exists to some extent higher up the ladder with those who ultimately hold the decision making power of where to allocate more resources and what things to advertise and promote.
So, yeah, consumer behavior does drive this. But the actions of the higher ups that make these decisions do, at minimum, help influence consumer behavior. And in that regard, things did not end up the way they are now completely on accident.
I haven’t gotten any New releases in a long time, only because I still have some many Things to watch. Also I grew up around VHS tapes and DVDs and I’m a firm believer in physical media. My latest purchase on Dvd was the IT Crowd since it unfortunately got taken off of Netflix, I’m really stoked to have it in my Collection.
You talk about how these companies have gone all in on streaming and they're afraid to admit it was a mistake. What I don't understand is why they can't do both? Why isn't every streaming service putting out their shows on physical media and double dipping?
If their worry is that the audience will suddenly stop subscribing, I highly doubt the average streamer wants to go back to individually buying each show and movie, a player, and giving up the convenience of streaming. I just don't see that happening. So there's an opportunity for them to be making more money while pleasing both crowds, but they aren't?
If they're worried that suddenly that one show that someone would've subscribed for, they now just pick up on a blu-ray, that blu-ray purchase surely outweighs the cost of someone just subbing for a month and cancelling? I would love your thoughts on this and even a video if you wanted.
"You talk about how these companies have gone all in on streaming and they're afraid to admit it was a mistake. What I don't understand is why they can't do both? Why isn't every streaming service putting out their shows on physical media and double dipping?"
That's what I'd like to know, especially as I got two of Joey King's projects on physical that were on streaming-- Paramount themselves put out The In Between (which was on Paramount+ in 2022), and Universal put out The Act (which was originally on Hulu in 2019).
This is so true, there is no grand conspiracy. Gotta say, you really made me chuckle at 8:46 "guys, we're talking about physical media here" hahah
Personally I don't think the industry is gonna die. It might change but it won't die.
Hi, Physical media is only targeted to movie enthusiasts whom wish to watch their movies to the highest quality. The new generation prefer to watch it on a iPhone, which is a damn shame. The newer generation are getting less in life and will not know any different. We do my friend.❤
there’s an old saying when you play with fire then you get burned
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terrific take heath
The question is, what is the answer? Movie theaters are hurting. People complain that “we are tired of reboots and Super hero movies” and when original movies come out, they don’t go and see it. Fall Guy is a great example. So I see the whole thing in general. It’s not just physical media, streaming is hurting and movie theaters are hurting. I hope all of this survives.
Sadly, I don't know that there is an answer. My conclusion that the audience just doesn't care about movies anymore and has moved on means they're going to be hard to get back--and Hollywood is in no shape to win them back anyway. The studios are fragmented, the creators are frustrated, and the entire creative landscape feels desolate.
I agree Heath. Movie interest has declined in some age groups . I also think rising cost of living & inflation has made people reassess their lining standards .
Great point about the rising cost of living. And the cost of home media goes up constantly, too. A nice 4K can now cost $40-50, which buys a fair amount of groceries.
Like another youtuber said: “We have been living in a post-music ‘industry’ since the mid-2000s”. I hope this doesn’t happen to movies and tv shows (yet), because while writing a book and producing music expenses have gone ridiculously down, it isn’t there yet for film & TV. Yes, post-production has gone down over the years but everything else is still quite expensive to put together.
I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis, it’s (sadly) more of a cultural downfall and greed than anything else. Netflix to me is the equivalent of Spotify, making everything sound (look) homogeneous, pushing “content” rather than art or quality entertainment that will be there for generations to come.
So we need to bring back an interest in movies. How do we do this? I beleave there will always be a niche group who continues to care about movies but what can we do to get them back to the masses?
Shut down the IP crap machine, starve the studios, and Hollywood will be forced to create new things that are fresh, interesting, and draw people back to the theater. Or they'll just use AI. Honestly, it could go either way, but the onus is on US. We've got to stop feeding bad practices.
People just parrot the whole "they want you to own nothing" to make things seem deeper than they are. People probably said the same thing when we went from ink and parchment to pen and paper, things change because people find them more convenient.
7:27 🫴🏿 The WEF
The World Economic Forum (WEF) predicted that, by 2030, individuals would own nothing and be happy. This article examines the prediction from a property perspective.
I’ve lost patience with TV, especially episodic dramas. Simply I don’t have the time to invest in 7+ hours.
Movies rule as it’s 2 hours or so and that’s it. Beginning, middle and end… done. I love that switch 2 hours off time from life in one sitting, especially in a cinema.
That saying actually comes from the world economic forum from around 2017. I can understand why the physical media crowd has latched onto it though. I think it has more to do with the cyclical economy that some are calling for in the name of sustainability.
Yeah, it was never about physical media, but now it's become a battle cry for physical media fans every day. I literally hear it daily, or almost daily.
@@CerealAtMidnightI think some of that is a side effect of being at the center of a physical media platform/community. I'm friends with some of the owners/employees of various boutique labels and spend a lot of time around their tables at horror conventions and I don't hear much of this talk from physical media collectors in real life.
@@CerealAtMidnight it was about private ownership...buying physical media is private ownership...
I think the corporations sort of know that most people have moved away from physical media and are focusing on Streaming. Whether we like it or streaming is the future of how movies are viewed. I still think there should be physical media on everything they put up streaming but that’s not going to happen when they want you to watch it on Netflix or prime or whatever platform they have. I don’t think they want you to own nothing and like it. I think it’s a business and they need your 20 bucks a month or so. Problem is it was easier for Netflix when Netflix was the only streaming. Not everyone can afford every platform so they have to either put everything on physical media to recoup costs for people that can’t afford to stream but want to own all the seasons of a series. Or they have to figure out a way to make it cheaper by having these bundles which will end up like cable.
Just on the subject of the apocalypse, I had a random thought while letting the warnings play at the end of the DVD, that's in like ten different languages. What if someday in the far future a random DVD becomes the Rosetta Stone allowing some future archeologists to crack some long forgotten languages.
I think you are misunderstanding the phrase. "You will own nothing and be happy" refers to the push to remove or minimize the actual buying and ownership. Of course they want to sell things, but they dont want you to "own", they want you to rent and perpetually spend to access things. If they can sell something that you "own" and can use whenever you want however many times you want, they view that more as a loss as they could have gotten a sale for each time you use it or recurring subscriptions every month. Knowing this, they will take steps to further achieve the goal of more sales and moving away from "purchasing" and "owning"
It’s kind of depressing I own like 95% of what is behind you !!! 😂
It's all fine and dandy that Disney had released their star wars series on Blu Ray but it's expensive to import to here in Australia
I think we need to see some print on demand companies pop up to make movies more cost efficient.
You're describing XBox Gamepass and half of the videogame industry too.