The Death of Physical Media 💀
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- 🚀 In today's video, we're diving into the ongoing debate about the fate of physical media in our increasingly digital world.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:35 28 Days Later controversy
03:26 Movies that have died completely
04:04 We don't own anything
04:39 What's the difference between buying and renting?
06:00 What happens when a platform goes bankrupt?
06:36 Apple's iTunes movie ownership kerfuffle
07:34 Digital ownership is not real
08:59 What are A-listers saying about this issue?
10:15 The environmental impact of physical media
11:31 My proposed solution
13:31 Conclusion
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There is a saying that has become popular among the video game community ; If buying isn’t ownership, piracy isn’t stealing.
That's why I own a jtag 360 a xk3y 360 & intend to jailbreak a PS5.
You’re just borrowing the entertainment value for a determined length of time.
Definitely true!👍
It’s funny but as someone who grew up with physical media I completely agree - I still feel I have a right to watch/listen to any digital download for free. Paying is for physical ownership. I feel like what people have said about the decline of western civilisation is true - we will be satisfied with less.
It's also wrong. Physical or digital, you ARE actually buying something: a license to play the game on that medium. Said license can be revoked at will (but good luck convincing big corporations to spend time/money/energy to break into everyone's houses to destroy the offending physical copies).
Pirating a game means you're playing a game without a license.
I’ll buy physical as long as I can
Same here.
Same here. But if game's are not on the disc like cod. I don't give em my money
I love physical copies of products, and am highly disappointed in digital only.
Streaming services can still edit content when needed
When you have the disc/file/tape ... what is there can't be altered, unless you want to.
I still buy my hardcopies, never stopped, and theyre always there uncensored with extras to watch whenever i choose.
If people were real fans of movies theyd own them.
I honestly have no understanding of the logic or intelligence of people who dont want to but a hard copy to own forever, but instead choose to continually pay a subscription fee to continually watch the same movie IF its still available to stream
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Totally agree! 🙌
I pirate nearly every movie and series, and only buy them if they are atually good.
WELL SAID 👏👏👏👏 !
I COMPLETELY AGREE 👍👍👍👍👍!
If the streaming services went out of business tomorrow, I will still have my big collection of DVDs/Blu-ray, VHS, downloaded digital files I pirated, CDs, vinyl, cassettes, 8-tracks, reel to reel, and pirated music because it'll be a cold day in hell before I go to exclusively streaming music. Hell, my smartphone alone has like 2 straight days of music on the microSD card in it.
Physical media for the win. There's just something so nice about opening the case and browsing the sleeves.
Yeah... "If buying isn't ownership, then piracy isn't stealing".
I own 28 days later. On VHS , DVD and UMD
I have an entire room in my house devoted to physical media. I have games movies and music. Went digital with my music in the early 2000's. Apple screwed me out of a bunch of music. I foresaw where media was heading so I started collecting physical. I could have filled my whole house with media but took the curated approach. Only stuff that interests me and I plan to use.
Streaming services are *constantly* harvesting data about anyone's use of their platform, even to the point of how long you hovered over a particular icon, and every single action you take on the service and how long you did anything--even if you were idle. A massive, yet under-appreciated fact about physical media is that generally neither the current contracted streaming service nor the IP holder can track your viewership habits or increments with your media. You remain disconnected, consuming media on *your* terms with as much privacy as you can muster.
That's how they get the their data for their rankings list, that's how we know that their original streaming garbage doesn't even crack the top ten.
I love owning a physical or digital copy of films and music. I have a whole box (might not be that many though) of DVDs - and I can watch them whenever I want. I have also bought some songs from iTunes and put copies of them on all of my devices. Just owning the piece feels so much different, gives you some kind of sense of control. The big adavantage of digital media is that it doesn't take up physical space, that's kind of nice.
I am glad there are a lot of second hand online stores now to buy DVD's from. Specially for the ones I watched as a teen and you can't seem to find anywhere else.
I was able to buy "Broadway Melody of 1940" on DVD from Amazon, we also have a local game store that carries DVD's. Also, be persistent.
I found a digital copy of "Texas Across the River," which I've been looking for for decades. So, get what you want while you can.
I have two local DVD stores....I am blessed. But I don't have the budget to go there, gotta focus on real bills. Hopefully someday.
HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE 600 SUBS?? Subbed!
LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!! Spread the word, about borrowing movies (buying digitally)
Cable and streaming companies should be required by law to upload a copy of digitally purchased movies/tv shows to the cloud so the buyer can access their purchase forever.
28 days later still not available to stream in the UK. Glad I have the blu ray
I got the DVD. I have had the DVD since 2003
I blame the TikTok generation, conditioned to not only accept, but actively want convenience at the cost of ownership.
Lol. It started before them.
It started earlier than Tik Tok but the ones who use tik tok frequently are the Gen Z and later losers who don't value anything. It was when it started.
It definitely started way before them like the other person has said, and you can't blame them for how their parents showed them media
As soon as I heard that The Evil Empire aka Disney modified movies to adhere to woke standards I knew my decision to not stop movies on physical media was VERY important. Checking the increased rate of garbage movies released, I'm currently buying cheap Blurays of older movies I only have on DVD.
I’ve been doing the same. Disney classics on blu-ray, also their cartoon series like Gummi Bears, Gargoyles
It's interesting because The Witcher 3, owned by CD projekt red and distributed on their DRM free platform GoG, was actually pirated less than a cracked steam version of the same game. The thrill of breaking those barriers and distributing forbidden fruit was more appealing than just easily getting the GoG version.
My point is that anyone who wants to pirate will find a way to pirate. DRM free movie files sounds like the answer we all need and I've been screaming that for years
The streaming dream is over and the penny has dropped: The only way to guarantee watching a film or series is to own it! (Drops the mic and walks away 🤣)
Looking forward to the Danny Boyd season at Cineworld for both Sunshine and 28 Days Later❤
The only way to own it is to rip it and maintain a server yourself because physical media deteriorates with time.
@@jmanakajosh9354..... and hope you never lose your server 🤞😉
I like physical media because no internet no WiFi no password no sign in no login no email no download no account none of that stuff required. If something doesn’t feal authenticate have the power to say no and no one can take our choices away you choose
I've stop buying or paying for any films or Streaming.... Torrents are the only way to live ... "F" the companies
I rent movies on YT and screen record them.
That’s a genius strategy! 😂👍
I am a sea adventurer from a 3rd world country since the days of Limewire... If media companies wanna play dirty... Never a problem to me...
Same here. I set sail on the Napster seas back 25 years ago, and have always flew the Jolly Roger. Tis a pirate's life for me!
Glad i have 28 days later on DVD.
How do you only have 700 subs? This was fantastic.
They want to move everything to being subscription and rental based because it's more profitable.
If you have a physical copy it can be passed on. If you download a file it can be shared.
Del Torro makes a great point. So many films thought "lost" have been re-discovered, digitized, cleaned-up and shown to new audiences thanks to someone finding a print in some random Venezuelan film fan's great-grandkid's attic
The tube suggested you to me today. Keep up the work, you are needed. Please make a video with Lawrence Lessig's manifesto (or whatever it was called), bc without him we wouldn't even have the license for Linux and open source 😢 Lessig basically made it happen when nobody could even see it.
physical media isn't dying its having a renaissance i've got my physical copy of 28 Days Later so i'm okay. the average consumer shops at Best Buy/Target etc, and don't have in depth knowledge on what boutique labels are planning to release and don't usually place pre-orders but collectors do all of that and we are the ones that these boutique are aiming at. There are occasionally exceptions like Oppenheimer which crossed over with collectors and the average consumer. Big blockbusters will tend to do that. but the latest Arrow or Criterion release usually won''t. That recent debacle with The French Connection means having physical copies is still the best option if they cut/change the original film in light of historical relevance- then I'm not interested. I do preview music on streaming platforms but if I like it I always buy the physical copy of that album.
I knew that this would be an issue.
1. Your optical stuff is not immortal. Some Warner discs actually deteriorated relatively quickly--a bad plant was used.
2. How long will players and consoles last? How long will new machines prove available?
3. Forget VHS actually
lasting.
They media conglomerates won't let you download. They really like the CRT TV era
To watch something again, you had to watch re-runs--or, wait for syndication. Or, wait for a media mogul to wave his cigar in assent.
If something finally becomes ancient and too familiar. Then, maybe.
I agree with this message.
I still own all my favorite music on CD, vinyl and tape, movies on vhs dvd and bluray, and old ps1,ps2,ps3,ps4 and ps5 games on disc. For anything else, torrents!!!!
I used to have hundreds of blu-rays/DVDs but recently discarded the bulk of them with the assistance of a junk removal company. I am relieved.
I think this idea of phyiscal media dying has been blown out of proportion. I still buy comics, books, blu-ray movies, board games etc. And I'm not talking about past releases, I mean the new stuff. There's tons of it being released each month, even week. Just look at what Arrow Video or Stern Pinball are doing or the amount of manga volumes being released every month. I don't know, am I living on a different planet from all those people spelling doom about physical media? If anything, there's so much of the stuff being released nowadays that it's impossible to keep up.
I'll buy physical as long as I can but sometimes all you're buying is a box or a disc that needs a download to be complete :(
I think it's still going strong, I see many still being positive about physical media, I think we will have to wait a decade or 2 to see it really decline but hopefully outlets like arrow, Impact and criterion offer enough appeal to keep it alive, downloading a file is never as satisfying or secure as the sense of ownership physical media gives you
Corporations are saying that the common people are the worst people to talk with about a utopia.
To go about caring for the people, for the environment, the economy, cultures, languages, religions and every aspect of living.
But they themselves in that kind of light that they put in so many others.
They think we can’t do all-digital with our own stuff, the problem isn’t that we can’t go all digital, the problem is that we are rushing a society that is at its biggest, a whole world at its biggest to follow in the footsteps of corporations.
WEB 3.0 can be in the hands of anyone and they are not pushing that.
Utopia doesn't make movies. She just sits at a keyboard all day long and imagines how smart she is while she types absolute bullshit. Common people with paid jobs regulated by guilds make movies. Somebody needs to pay the salaries of those common people, kid. Guess who can't do that because they are sitting in Mom's basement? You. ;-)
DRM for piracy only inconviences paying customers not the pirates.
Do you have a Padawan braid? That's awesome!
Yes I do! Thanks 😄
This is exactly how they wanted it all along. I remember back in the 90s reading how Spielberg was looking into technology that would allow them to limit the amount of plays that would be available on dvd discs because ownership was cutting into rental royalties. There was a visceral negative reaction so the idea was dropped…
I'm buying an OG Xbox next month and still own my ps1, 2, 3 & Xbox 360. My series S hasn't gotten used in months.
It's not dead I hate this title, it promotes an idea that's not true to anyone who doesn't watch it. 😠
DRM-free is the industry standard for music. there's no reason it can't be the same for video
I only have digital from films I bought that happened to come with a code . Its not worth it otherwise.
I have an amazing movie collection that I can watch anytime I want.
Sick of playing a collectively expensive game of "Whack-a-Mole" with content over multiple streaming platforms. Only one platform needed: my physical media collection, which I wisely kept hold of. It's all in one place, it won't have bits randomly phase in and out of existence at the other end of the universe, and I can watch it anytime I want. For eternity!*
(* Subject to acts of God, Landlords, collapse of civilisation, physical media and the means of playing it wearing out, breaking, etc...
...still more reliable than streaming platforms though).
I'm physical all the way!🤔 I began collecting VHS in 1984 when my mom gifted me a Midland VCR and have been collecting ever since. I'm mostly a horror fan and collector. And some of my horror movies are not on streaming. But the same happens vice-versa there's horror movies, especially foreign, that are only available here on streaming. And I don't stream. So what do I do? Well since they won't put out physical copies I bootleg!😇 I have noticed that younger moviegoers stream and older people buy physical. I don't think physical will go 100% away.🤔
I still buy physical media based on the fact that with a streaming service who's to say what could be censored or altered to fit our current, easily offended society.
Almost feels like the old "Leopards Eating People's Faces" thing. I'm not suggesting you're doing that. But people who got into the buzz of streaming now realising that they're paying money for literally nothing but data on a server now can't find physical copies of what they want to watch. It's incredibly sad.
I guess I'll be watching my M*A*S*H, Star Trek and Doctor Who DVDs until I'm 90 then, so long as my DVD drives hold out. I may have to invest in a few portable DVD drives from Officeworks...
I subscribed because of this video 👍
A downloadable limited and/or censored version in a lower quality... 🤣
And then there’s weirdos like me who own records, cds, guitars, dvd’s, books, notebooks, pens, water colours, etc……..I can watch “Play Misty For Me” and “The Graduate” anytime! : )
Dude 28 days later isn’t back on streaming websites because of Oppenheimer it only came back when Sony announced they bought the rights for 28 years later and in turn the previous movie.
100%
Just to be clear. Buying digital music without physical copies, does give you a DRM free copy of the file, which you can save wherever you like, copy and do whatever you like. That's because the system was established when you couldn't expect people to have stable internet connections and there was wide backlash about the DRM as it could lock the music to specific devices.
Go ahead I’m so tired Streaming services prices going up and up. I bought a Sony 4k player so I’m buying physical media
Physical media still exist. Keep supporting them.
Thank god for torrent. I would't have 5000 movies collection without it.
You don't have a collection of 5000 movies. You have 5000 potential indictments against you. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 I don't live in the west 😄😄😄
@@Vladimir-nc9ru If you live in Russia, then you better figure out how those 5000 copies will help you to avoid you being drafted and shipped to the Ukrainian k**ng fields. If I were you, I would probably take my chances with a Western district attorney. Chances of getting out alive are much higher. ;-)
gee, I wonder why piracy is on the rise again!
Physical media isn’t dying it’s just diversifying vinyl has come back never be like before but still can be obtained
Cassettes have also made a comeback over the last 2-3 years. People want a physical copy of their memories. And CDs are starting a slight uptick in sales. It's all miniscule compared to the late-90s and early-00s, but sales are ticking up.
devils advocate... awesome movie
if buying isnt owning the piracy isnt theft. sail the digital seas me hearties :P
You own the physical media or you own the rights to play a movie for your own entertainment but NOT to an audience. In case of IP like movies you simply don't own the movie unless you buy a worldwide perpetual license, which is about as hard to find these days as gold plated latinum. So, yeah, piracy is theft because you never bought the replication rights.
Great physical media
Buying physical media doesn’t guarantee the physical media will remain watchable. You have to make a digital copy and still keep the original to prove you own the license to view your copy. Who does this? Many just go straight to the pirated digital copy.
Buying tires does not guarantee that the tires will last forever. I am sure your inner child therefor now believes that you can steal your next set without committing theft. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 Yes, that’s why people keep buying new tires. The DVD that you purchased is perpetual license, like it or not. You just have to keep one copy forever if the FBI or studio decides to sue you, which never actually happens unless you stream the DVD that you purchased that seldoms happen. Theft doesn’t mean what you think it means. Most people will capitulate to the free streaming model. Everyone just watches what they want in any form or platform that serves it up.
Ehh millennials can keep streaming I am going to keep acquiring Blu-rays.
Millennials are collecting VHS tapes now.
BOTTOM LINE: we are screwed!!!
OK troll.
Speak for yourself. I'll always own my media. One way, or another.
Just....torrent it? Stop paying for streaming services. Stop buying shitty DVDs like its fucking 1990 with 480p resolution
Physical media 📀forever ♾️❤
How is a high quality disc ever obsolete? It’ll work for decades to come, perhaps many decades. I get your point, just don’t love the way you frame it.
Ok I’m being a bit too critical. Let me watch the rest of the video…
Extra comments help you out though I guess. 😜
Not the big juicy thumbs up . . .
Don't give up on physical media deliberately go out and purchase legitimate copies while you can
As you get older you will find that physical copies make you one thing and one thing only: a hoarder. ;-)
Offering customers the option to download a digital file is without a doubt the most obvious solution ... but try to remember ... you will own nothing and be happy.
That did not work many are going back to Physical look we had digital books we had this exact same debate yet physical books still outsell digital.
@@jonathancunningham8739 I'm all for selling physical, but the physical version has to be well made, inexpensive, and relatively future proof. What we really need is a standard universal physical format for all games, music and movies (that doesn't include an optical disk).
@@jonathancunningham8739 digital books are still full of DRM, locking you into their system. That is the entire problem.
I think your argument for physical media "dying" is just proving the case that we SHOULD be buying more of it not "dOwNlOaD tHe mP4" And also steam doesn't have anything to do with smoke...nice pun
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Tf you on about I own all the stuff I buy
We don’t? I don’t know about you guys, but I own a whole bunch of stuff lol.
What is wrong with you people ?
Just built a plex server filled with a 'totally legally acquired content'
just pirate it. It is easy enough
Physical media isn’t dead bro so stop
Physical is not dead first the streaming bubble burst many are going back to either Cable, Antenna and or Physical though not that high I have a feeling if streaming services continue they will lose a lot more. Stop being a doomer.
The ultimate issue here is copyright law. Because the studio owns the IP you want to watch, they are under no incentive to have physical media. It’s morally bad that they can take things away from you, but it’s technically fair. You can’t have downloadable distribution like this without taking the IP rights away from the studios
Think of all the landfills getting stuffed with CDs, DVDs and other physical media. The sooner we stop needing more physical things to own the better off we all will be. Most people I know who own physical media still watch digital even if they own the DVD because its too much trouble to dig it up and put it in. It's just the overpowering need to own physical things that still possesses people; its why people become hoarders.
Dude, What's up with your hair?
Grow up.
Kodi. I just watched 28days with my daughter through kodi
You filthy pirate
Nah YOU don’t own anything anymore. I own ALL my Blu rays and 4Ks. I don’t know what the hell you’re smoking!!!