Climbing Challenge - Which Mountain Bike Climbs The Best?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- We put an XC Bike, an Enduro Bike & a Fat Bike through their paces to find out which one climbs the best. This is the ultimate MTB climbing challenge!
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We put three bikes to the test in a number of challenges and on different terrain to see which one climbs the best. A timed trail climb, a technical ascent and the impossible hill...you may be in for a surprise.
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You should definitely do a 2019 version of this. Most trail/enduro bikes climb great these days
"are you ready my little mountain goat"? xD
Ha! 1:07 marks freezing his nuts off!
+David Brown Fan HAHA Amazing
yeah you're right :D
I love climbing, it makes my blood boil :) Going down is kinda fun but doing the opposite is strangely more satisfying for me, it makes me feel fucking strong and committed :D
Same here, I have friends who only downhill an usually shuttle for their runs, and I don't understand it. Going downhill isn't as satisfying if you don't work hard on the uphill.
Downhill feels ten times better after a climb!
1amadeo it's all about the climb for me the harder the better
Those brutal climbs make the back side decent much more rewarding :)
I love climbing. It's my favorite part of riding. With a history in powerlifting, I love the effort and pain associated. I can vouch for the Fatties climbing prowess. I think if I could build an XC hardtail with 2.4's, it might change my life.
One thing that can really change the game is if you use a fork with adjustable course on an enduro bike. You get a better traction than the hardtail bikes and a much better geometry for climbing. One thing that is absolutely crucial for traction, power and balance when climbing on steep terrains is to not have your seat too far behind the crankset.
@GMBN: where are you located? I'd really enjoy to take lessons with you and/or ride together if you're in the Alps.
What is "adjustable course" on the front fork? Is that either rebound dampening or compression dampening?
Please do this test with exactly the same bikes for different DH courses???? Or exactly the same tracks you just did but DH wise.
+Silverripples But DH bikes are not designed to climb!
I mean the DH test with these Bikes you selected for the climbing test
+Silverripples Enduro will stand out no surprise, then fatboy, and I suggest u do some serious slope style runs with a xc bike urself, haha
I would have liked to see how a 27.5+ bike would have climbed, like the scott genius, to me, those are the most interesting bikes right now. I think that the 27.5+ would be the single best all around bike for summer, winter, climbing, descending and everything else. Would love to see a video about the capabilities of a 27.5+.
"Are you ready my little mountain goat?" i died there
Wish you guys would do this again and add 27.5Plus hardtails/dulie's. and then 130-140 rear, 140-150 front trail bikes, a few of them. Sorry, you give and you give and all we do is ask for MOAR ! :)
Thanks for all your vids!!!
haha!
I have a classix 26" XC bike and if I go riding in the terrain where there are technical and grip demanding climbs I trade off low rolling resistance of typical skinny XC tyres and just put 2.35" Nobby Nics on the wheels. After doing so only my strength and stamina limit the climbing abilities, not the grip.
That's interesting! Is there any advantage to climbing with suspension over fully rigid?
I would just pick the lightest. Much easier to push up the hills.
Nice video! How about a vid about round vs oval chainrings for CX/climbing?
+Willem Doorenbos Hi Willem, there is a huge debate about oval chainrings raging at the moment. We'll look in to putting a video together and share our findings!
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loved this video guys. Had lots of fun and people near me must to think I was watching a football match or something because I yelled and cursed at the scream all the time rooting for some bikes. lol.
I liked to see that Fat and XC had a good performance, because Enduro bikes are too hype and extremely expensive... this video is a nice punch of reality.
MTB for fun.
Very interesting feature.
Does raise the question how do trail bikes and plus bike compare.
I would have liked to see how a trail bike climb, but nice video anyway
Liam Guild no they're not
Is there an ideal xc geometry for technical climbing? Head angle (69.5 or 68)? Short or long chainstay? Short o long wheelbase? Low or high bb eight? Thnaks
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It would be interesting to see a comparison between ht and fs cross country bikes at around the same price point. To see if the traction gains are worth of the extra weight of the shock.
Should've tried a fat ebike up that hill. Would of been interesting to see if it could do it.
class video guys. You have to think about what is best for going uphill and downhill because you can only take on bike with you on the trail.
My trail bike just churned up a wet rocky cobbled hill easily as well as my hardtail as the grip was far better on the wet stones so had to leave the rear shock open too.
This is making me want a fat bike now!!
A fun-filled test ride of three different types of bikes and riders. Great location!
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+Global Mountain Bike Network Come on Neil! you need to be on top of those squeaky breaks!
You should of done the plus bike that would off won but great vid boys keep it up
you guys are the best,, and I'm in Canada!! thank you!!
Congrats Marc, and great video guys!
Something to consider during your highly scientific climbing tests: Rider effort!
I feel the amount of effort (both at the pedals and controlling the bike) trumps speed to the top of the hill.
I ride a 120mm 29er and I still grind slowly up the climbs, but I am no longer exhausted when I get there and have better control for the rest of the ride.
This video speaks to me as I am the type of rider that tries to go fast up hill. Sure, I enjoy descending, but being the fastest on a descent isn't important to me.
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Learn to love the climb my friend. As it stands now you are only enjoying half the ride.
I'll give you that, but I do like the climbs. Maybe it's because I'm 5' 6" tall and weigh 135 lbs.
Built for it, yes. The king at it, far from.
+William Keys I love the climbs also over the downhills, 6' 200lb.
+Brian Lapham I used to say the same until I bought my first carbon bike. you know, my old 26er hardtail weighed 14.3 kg
Disappointed Marc didn't involve his Gambler in this (for LULz ofcourse)
This is such a killer video. Thanks, mates! Been wondering why I suck at technical climbs on my enduro and have been eyeballing a plus XC like the Scott spark. Another video, maybe?
MTB 26" Rigid (one suspension) WIN!
I think the fat bike's 2x11 set-up made the key difference in the last category.
3:53 Mountain Goat had me LMAO
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Excellent upload, looks chilly there !!
HAHA... 1:12..... Love Marcs hair flapping around through the air vents of his helmet!
Get a trim ya Hippie! ;)
Endruo?! never heard of that one before... but all in all another great vid by the boys at GMBN.
+joshua cummings 2:09
+joshua cummings Apologies, we obviously had a momentary brain fade with that one!
+Global Mountain Bike Network Endruo for the win! Lol
Good vid.Not a HUGE surprise though.I was fortunate enough to extensively demo a Scott B+ , a few months ago.
. One of them might have totally won outright.Pretty light ( mid 20lbs) , but still tons of grip.Up an " impossible climb " in the lakes the front end was coming up.Wouldnt let go.My legs packed in first.
+GlobalMountainBikeNetwork Come on Neil! you need to be on top of those squeaky breaks!
Love those xc bikes
5:03 - He has basically summed it up there "Nothing short of a motocross bike will get up there"
So there you have it ladies and gentleman :P
These guys are mint they no everything ab9ut bikes I love them
"are you ready my little mountain goat?" LOL
Seems like descending is valued above climbing for a majority of MTBers, but I love the climbs :)
Great video. More challenges please.
awesome vid lads
I bought a DH bike recently and tried to do some uphill on it. Now that is hard work!
It's in the name 😂 but makes for good training?
Can we start unofficialy start calling fat bikes monster trucks?
no lol
+karL ish Totally agreed! OMG, STOP F4T SH4MM1NG THESE P0OR BIKES!!!1!!1!!!1!!!!
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Nice video guys 👍
Great video. Really helpful in deciding which bike to buy actually!
Clever video guys! Thank you!
Would have been nice to include a mid travel trail bike as I think it would have put up a good fight and edged out the enduro and XC bikes in a few of the categories, although fat may have ultimately won anyway.
Nice music during second challenge. I wish they include the 27.5 plus bikes....May be next time.thanks to that amazing video.
Can't wait to see Marc's Pro Bike Check for his Saracen Myst!
1:11 - Marc: the flyaway king.
I don't care for bombing downhill, but enjoy it after a long climb. I prefer to climb and usually go about 15-21 miles 3500ft on my rides. I have a 2019 Scott scale 970 with 29x2.30 maxxis aggressor tires because I have no idea what to use lol. I want more climbing videos and information on setups and upgrades for cross country climbs. Love the channel all the way from the Bay Area, Ca
I'm noticing a trend in comment sections. Not just on youtube, but on blogs or any other place that talks about Fat Bikes.
So many XC owners get so defensive about their XC bikes, it's like a dying breed or something. Relax people, no-one is going to kill off your precious XC.
People are just excited for the sudden surge of fat bike popularity, but XC is still "ideal", so it won't go anywhere.
So do us a favor and stop spamming fat bike discussion pages with "oh, fat bikes are okay, but MY xc is still superior on trails, and will never trade for it blah blah blah! Speeeeeed. Speeeeed is important"
Surprising results in the video. Who'd have thought the fat bike would do so well?
And congratulations on your ever improving presenting skills. Well done!
Would love to see this challenge done with hardtails, though. Don't forget GMBN, not all of us can afford full-sus bikes.
Also, which style of hardtail bike would you recommend for a rider who goes off road, nothing too serious with no major drop-offs, and who does a lot of cycling on roads with hill climbs?
Cheers for any advice
could you guys make a video where you take those bikes to an enduro trail & also a cyclocross course? that would be interesting. especially if you race the GCN guys!
great review guys, wasn't the point of the Fat bikes is that they dont need front suspension forks?
Fat tire bikes are better absorbers of bumps, but only within limits...my hubby replaced my original forks with 125mm air forks and it is a much better ride over the rocky terrain.
Congrats with Madison Saracen Mark!
I'm not sure what's more non-scientific and controversial: this climbing challenge or Marc's hair/helmet fashion at 1:14
how did don teleport from the xc bikes to the fat bikes what an amazing man
I get the impression that you guys really don't like fat bikes lol
I wonder how the 3" fatties would do. A little less wheel weight, but still lots of contact. Go get a Specialized Fuse and try that impossible hill again. :-)
+Michael Jolley Good point. It would be interesting to see how it fares overall against the two winners.
+Michael Jolley My experience with my Stumpjumper 6Fattie is that it climbs anything with an uneven surface better than my hardtail XC bike :-)
At least where I ride...
And there so much fun.
Hey guys can you make a video about how to grease pivots?
+Andrew Butler Hi Andrew, look out for a video including this next week!
what about a short extremely technical climb with a 3ft legde at the steepest part
Should I'd chucked a cyclo cross bike in the mix. LOL @ Mountain Goat and Be The Hill!! 🚵👍🏼🍺
not could enough Neil on the impossible hill.
You guys should also mention weight of bike and rider.
Looks cold.
Marc, why would you choose Enduro bike to climb, even after the test results?
I'm sure it's because they look better. I agree :)
Well, although I am not marc. Nor do I speak in his name. But i definetely can understand him. Unless you are an XC racer or doing Xterra racing where basically you want to get uphill as fast as possible but downhill as smooth as possible in order to try and recover somehow for the next climb. It is pretty useless to have a bike that can climb the fastest as opposed to a bike that can definitely can climb albeit slower but are far better handling on the descent. I am guessing that marc being an ex pro dh racer enjoys that bit of mtb a little bit more than the climbing. So why not ride steadily uphill, "enjoy" it, survive and then shread the downhill which obviously marc knows how to do really fast!
+RC1986 R Hi there. Yep. I understand that. If I had to choose one bike only, sure I would go for an enduro bike (I do have an enduro bike!). But this video is a climbing challenge, so I understood what would be the choice for climbing. Not for all around biking. But ok.
What's the point in climbing if you can't enjoy the descent?
I just want the exact canyon Mark is riding for Christmas lol.
I was droolin over that climb for a dirt bike since I first saw it😂😪
What about long, gradual, pretty technical climbs?
lol the imposibble climb music haha
Nice new helmet Neil.
I think Marc's on to something if your going up hill on a endro bike it might be slow and sluggish but you can recover at the top of the hill and then have a extremely fun down hill bit so I think when I go out and I know if there a hill there I'll take a fat bike because there good fun going up and coming down !!!!!
I wonder where a 27.5+ bike would stand, between XC and Fatbike probably..
I agree.
I demand a retest with plus bike added to the soup!
Nothing out climbs a fat bike in terms of terrain. Only loses, barely, to other bikes on hard pack trails.
Would a fat bike climb better with or without front suspension?
Now we need to see a GMBN descending challenge
For downhill oriented bikers you guys climb like mountain goats! Way to go!
try fatbike with xc setup?
great review. :-) will you include 27.5 plus in your next comparison reviews?
For me 27.5 is the best long ride climb than 29er because I experienced it .29er is fast in short ride but in long ride 27.5 is the best in maintaining speed of 20spm all climb
great vid. you both look a bit chilly in this! have you done a comparison on gearing on bikes, as in 3 x 9, 2 x 11 etc? i've had a quick look and can't see anything, it would be nice to have a pros and cons and where to use each combination. keep up the good work.
+Robert Sapsford Hi Robert, thanks for your comment. I think that for the majority of riders and most circumstances a 2x11 set up will be the best option. It allow's both a very big gear and easy one (depending on your chainring options) and is far less clutter than a 3x system. A 1x11 can also give a large enough range with the cassettes now available and is the lightest, simplest and most reliable as there are less components to go wrong.
+Global Mountain Bike Network that's great, thanks for the info. next bike update will be a 2 X 11 then me thinks. looking forward to the dirt shed show!
+Robert Sapsford Hi Robert, no worries, not much longer to wait!
Fat bike enduro
That would be interesting!
I'm in the Mohave Desert, do a fare amount of sand wash riding with my Minnesota Fat 2.0 and climb some of the sand embedded trails...it rides great, and it's much more stable than my first bike, a GT with 2.3" tires. My hubby had a 2.8" plus tire and did pretty good, but when he rode my fat tire, he said it gets great traction. Now he rides a Kona Supreme Operator with 2.5" tires and while he never complains, I can see he fights harder to climb, yet I'm jealous after riding his DH, with it's smooth running over everything and cushy landings from "airborne operations". Who is going to come-up with a bike that has expanding tires...ha ha!
Nice comparison. Now take it a step further and debunk the hardtail vs. full-sus myth.
Hi sir, as a mtb noob, can I ask what is the hardtail vs full-sus myth you're referring to? I'm interested to know!
Witch is better for climbing high veer or low geer
You should do a down hill challenge
Hello
I really think you should lower the pressure in that fat tires :)
It would help. Especially during the last climb.
Cheers..
6:12 hope they replied as the former Top Gear presenters (Clarkson, Hammond, and May obviously), prefer the lost one
You could have added a normal 27.5 in hard tail.
I want more fat bike videos
can u make a video bout how to choose line when uphill？
+jiahong isme Hi Jiahing, this will be covered in a video coming very soon. Thanks.
Can we get a brompton comparison?