“I never really was a street fighter. I never fought one street. My fights became street fights - we started in the saloons and then we went out into the streets.” Frank Sinatra “The Way You Wear Your Hat: Frank Sinatra and the Lost Art of Livin’” By Bill Zehme
Lauren Bacall's remark right here on YT: "Frank couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Have you seen him?" There's a lot of folklore about Frank that's accepted as truth, and being a brawler is one of them. The confrontation with Cohen is one of the rare times Frank wasn't in the middle of a scrum of bodyguards, and the result was predictable.
@@VegasVisual I know a lot of quotes by and about Frank, but my #1 favorite is what Frank told a female Korean-American croupier in Atlantic city when she, too, made the terrible mistake of not bending the rules for him: "You don't like it, go back to China!"
I heard Sinatra had a very bad temper, but welshing on bets and getting his fronts knocked out of his mouth gave me an entirely different picture of the man great video man.
Thanks, I decided to add that iconic photo at the last moment. Sinatra & JFK had a long history together but I was hesitant to include that photo even at the end because JFK had nothing to do with both fights.
Carl Cohen was a "Made Man" in the Mafia and was one of the Chief Overseers in Vegas for "The Family". That is why he got away with hitting Frank and injuring him without repercussions. Frank knew that and was aware that he could not fight Carl back without major blowback, so he did not strike him back as he would have liked to and would have done with anyone else. Wherever Frank went, there was always brawls, damaged furniture, thrown food, broken doors and holes in the walls, along with abused staff who were sometimes also assaulted. Even for his Mob connections, he was an expensive, time-consuming, drama-filled "friend". At a certain point, especially when Sam Giancana was no longer around to back him up, Frank antics became too much for them. He was biting the hand that fed him.
18:37 I never understood, and I never will, how anyone who sings like _this_ was always considered to have a "great" voice. Now, Dean Martin ... DEFINITELY ... but not this guy. There must be a million guys who aren't even in show business who can sing better than Frankie.
You have it backwards. I don't know what year it was, certainly later, but Frank had Buddy hit with a manhole cover. It was Frank's custom to have someone do these things for him. At one time, he had a beef with a casual girlfriend because she did the unthinkable- made a remark about politics. He had someone ring her doorbell, then pied her.
@@akrenwinkle The two things probably have a lot to do with each other. I got it from Buddy's biography; "Traps the drum wonder." Have a good evening sir.
@@akrenwinkle Ok man, no argument here. Supposedly this happened in the early 1930's in Atlantic city I think. Pretty sure they were in their twenties and not friends either way = didn't like the slow ballads. Buddy was known to be a total jerk all his life and his band notoriously disliked him. Funny note = later in life a band member had a cassette tape recorder on Buddy's bus and recorded a Buddy meltdown on tape at the band. It's on CZcams. We have no argument man. It's just funny. Please have a good night sir.
@@user-ln4zr4pz4f Great talents like Buddy Rich and Mel Torme were almost always unpleasant, to say the least. But Frank, a bigger star than them combined, prided himself on absurdities that required us not to believe our own eyes and ears. His artistry was very real; everything else was phony.
I have been sitting on this project for awhile because there are several sources that have different versions of the Sands fight between Cohen and Sands.
Yeah I knew he was a hot head and somewhat of a bully, but I've never heard the story of him having his two front teeth knocked out 😊 Also wasn't really really aware of the tension between him and Howard Hughes that's crazy 😊 I still love Frank he was a phenomenal singer and performer. ❤
Sinatra did have power in Las Vegas in the 1950s, but don’t conveniently forget the power of Howard Hughes in conjunction with the Mormons who are behind a lot of the financing of Vegas in the early days?
The Mormons and the Mob built Vegas. On June 14, 1855 the Mormons arrived in Las Vegas to build their mission, part of which still exists downtown. Las Vegas Historical Moments: 1800's: czcams.com/video/uCUJblIjrMA/video.htmlsi=OuP475o2Z6zsSg9g
From my personal experiences with Frank Sinatra, I contributed a reply, comment, and several facts to this post. It's not to be found here anywhere, so I guess opposing views are not acceptable.
You may have used a word that sets off the algorithm. I'm on these boards a lot, and still occasionally find out a word I thought was perfectly benign could trigger the very prim robot censor.
He had trouble in australia 1974 the unions banned his Travel plans until they received an apology about his remarks On women The union.president bob hawke managed to negotiate A sort of compromise and Sinatra was allowed to fly out!
Today I saw a poor guy in a wheelchair with a half of body on oxygen, he was born with some kind of birth Defects. Then I look at Sinatra and successfully people who have everything money Fame Wealth and I think What kind of world is this. I mean I'm normal poor but have my heath. I just can't Figure out why some are more Lucky than others.
@@VegasVisual well I beg to Differ. I just used frank sinatra as a example. I liked his movies Tony rome von Ryan's express none but the brave here to eternity.
😳 You can't figure out simple things?! Can you sing into a microphone while holding a glass of jack Daniel's and a cigarette? No you can't. That's why YOU aren't frank Sinatra. Get it? It's not luck. It's skill. Lol.
“I never really was a street fighter. I never fought one street. My fights became street fights - we started in the saloons and then we went out into the streets.”
Frank Sinatra
“The Way You Wear Your Hat: Frank Sinatra and the Lost Art of Livin’”
By Bill Zehme
Lauren Bacall's remark right here on YT: "Frank couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Have you seen him?" There's a lot of folklore about Frank that's accepted as truth, and being a brawler is one of them. The confrontation with Cohen is one of the rare times Frank wasn't in the middle of a scrum of bodyguards, and the result was predictable.
@@akrenwinkle Thanks for the quote.
@@VegasVisual I know a lot of quotes by and about Frank, but my #1 favorite is what Frank told a female Korean-American croupier in Atlantic city when she, too, made the terrible mistake of not bending the rules for him: "You don't like it, go back to China!"
@@akrenwinkle wow!
Sinatra lived in Palm Springs as well!@@VegasVisual
I've heard bits and pieces of this legendary era in Nevada gaming, but thanks for laying out this whole episode. Very interesting.:)
Most welcome!
Wwow. Bombshelly for those of us that were not aware of the full picture, it's packed full of so much information,, im going for another watch
Thank you for watching.
I heard Sinatra had a very bad temper, but welshing on bets and getting his fronts knocked out of his mouth gave me an entirely different picture of the man great video man.
Thank you, Sinatra had a dark side for sure.
This is solid gold! I’ve never heard these stories.
Hilarious stuff 🤣
Sinatra had another side when he was drunk, which was likely the case with both fights.
This was fun to watch and listen to all that amazing history. As always thanks Kevin 🎉🎉
Thank you for being at the "missing files" premiere Granny.
Brilliant! Excellent. I really enjoyed this!
Thank you Walt for watching.
Very interesting video. As always, you do great work VV 👍
Thank you Blair.
Nice job. loved the picture of Frank and JFK
Thanks, I decided to add that iconic photo at the last moment. Sinatra & JFK had a long history together but I was hesitant to include that photo even at the end because JFK had nothing to do with both fights.
I am always TEAM SINATRA since I was a 10 year old KID.
It's just how crazy things wete back then.
You never know what makes somebody tick.
Sinatra had two opposing sides, good and bad.
Great vid! A+
Thank you!
Grrrreat work!
Thank you!
Carl Cohen was a "Made Man" in the Mafia and was one of the Chief Overseers in Vegas for "The Family". That is why he got away with hitting Frank and injuring him without repercussions. Frank knew that and was aware that he could not fight Carl back without major blowback, so he did not strike him back as he would have liked to and would have done with anyone else.
Wherever Frank went, there was always brawls, damaged furniture, thrown food, broken doors and holes in the walls, along with abused staff who were sometimes also assaulted. Even for his Mob connections, he was an expensive, time-consuming, drama-filled "friend". At a certain point, especially when Sam Giancana was no longer around to back him up, Frank antics became too much for them. He was biting the hand that fed him.
That would be Frank, if Sinatra wasn't so popular with the general public he would not have gotten away with so much.
Great video with or without all of the pictures.
Thanks Ronnie.
Great video. Frank was great at his profession, but no one likes a mean drunk.
Thanks, very true about Frank.
18:37 I never understood, and I never will, how anyone who sings like _this_ was always considered to have a "great" voice. Now, Dean Martin ... DEFINITELY ... but not this guy. There must be a million guys who aren't even in show business who can sing better than Frankie.
Sinatra was a great entertainer, his voice quality does not match his popularity.
Totally agree ...Dean Martin could sing . The man had a beautiful voice .
Drummer Buddy Rich had sinatra beaten bloody between sets in about 1937 New Jersey. Played the set black and blue.
Wow!
You have it backwards. I don't know what year it was, certainly later, but Frank had Buddy hit with a manhole cover. It was Frank's custom to have someone do these things for him. At one time, he had a beef with a casual girlfriend because she did the unthinkable- made a remark about politics. He had someone ring her doorbell, then pied her.
@@akrenwinkle The two things probably have a lot to do with each other. I got it from Buddy's biography; "Traps the drum wonder." Have a good evening sir.
@@akrenwinkle Ok man, no argument here. Supposedly this happened in the early 1930's in Atlantic city I think. Pretty sure they were in their twenties and not friends either way = didn't like the slow ballads. Buddy was known to be a total jerk all his life and his band notoriously disliked him. Funny note = later in life a band member had a cassette tape recorder on Buddy's bus and recorded a Buddy meltdown on tape at the band. It's on CZcams. We have no argument man. It's just funny. Please have a good night sir.
@@user-ln4zr4pz4f Great talents like Buddy Rich and Mel Torme were almost always unpleasant, to say the least. But Frank, a bigger star than them combined, prided himself on absurdities that required us not to believe our own eyes and ears. His artistry was very real; everything else was phony.
Hey VV...Though in a couple of recalls and FBI Memo...Sinatra lost his teeth to Cohen 3 different ways 🤔🤣
I have been sitting on this project for awhile because there are several sources that have different versions of the Sands fight between Cohen and Sands.
Mean drunk for sure
Sinatra was a different person drunk.
This whole thing sounds like Woltz and Johnnie Fontaigne in The Godfather. Except it came out the opposite way. I guess Mr Hughes was a real gangster.
Thanks for watching.
@@VegasVisual thank for the awesome video.
Yeah I knew he was a hot head and somewhat of a bully, but I've never heard the story of him having his two front teeth knocked out 😊
Also wasn't really really aware of the tension between him and Howard Hughes that's crazy 😊
I still love Frank he was a phenomenal singer and performer. ❤
Frank was one of the best entertainer of all time but you didn't want to cross him, especially when he consumed adult beverages.
Nothing but a punk.
Frank was a punk and more.
He was a punk...who could sing his ass off.
@@edgarsnake2857 still a punk..
Frank suffered from a severe case of “little Man Syndrome”
He suffered from something.
“The FBI said…”
That phrase has lost all meaning and credibility!
This is why I try to show the source of the information and let the viewer decide what they think of the information.
Bravo! This was fantastic! Like and subscribe everyone! Great vid!
Thank you!
I’m kinda surprised that Elon Musk has not gotten into Las Vegas. I hope he eventually does because it would be exciting!!
Musk does have the Tesla Loop system that the Boring Company is building.
Sinatra did have power in Las Vegas in the 1950s, but don’t conveniently forget the power of Howard Hughes in conjunction with the Mormons who are behind a lot of the financing of Vegas in the early days?
The Mormons and the Mob built Vegas. On June 14, 1855 the Mormons arrived in Las Vegas to build their mission, part of which still exists downtown.
Las Vegas Historical Moments: 1800's:
czcams.com/video/uCUJblIjrMA/video.htmlsi=OuP475o2Z6zsSg9g
From my personal experiences with Frank Sinatra, I contributed a reply, comment, and several facts to this post. It's not to be found here anywhere, so I guess opposing views are not acceptable.
You may have used a word that sets off the algorithm. I'm on these boards a lot, and still occasionally find out a word I thought was perfectly benign could trigger the very prim robot censor.
Not sure what happened.
This along with magically being unsubscribed to channels is frustrating.
Sinatra has an abnormal personality
That would be true.
He had trouble in australia 1974 the unions banned his
Travel plans until they received an apology about his remarks
On women
The union.president bob hawke managed to negotiate
A sort of compromise and
Sinatra was allowed to fly out!
I didn't know that, thanks for the information.
Ryan Garcia could easily b Sinatra in a movie
These two fights would make a great movie.
Frank and his crew especially the original Oceans 11 crew Rocked.....i could give a fuck what he did off the clock.....REMEMBER ITS ENTERTAINMENT
Reasonable take.
Today I saw a poor guy in a wheelchair with a half of body on oxygen, he was born with some kind of birth Defects. Then I look at Sinatra and successfully people who have everything money Fame Wealth and I think What kind of world is this. I mean I'm normal poor but have my heath. I just can't Figure out why some are more Lucky than others.
Different people from different backgrounds and lives. It's a combination of things
@@VegasVisual well I beg to Differ. I just used frank sinatra as a example. I liked his movies Tony rome von Ryan's express none but the brave here to eternity.
😳 You can't figure out simple things?! Can you sing into a microphone while holding a glass of jack Daniel's and a cigarette? No you can't. That's why YOU aren't frank Sinatra. Get it? It's not luck. It's skill. Lol.
Sinatra was a good entertainer, but wasn't even a good crooner
He was certainly a better entertainer than singer.
sinatra was always a tough guy wannabee
Sinatra liked being friends with the Mob.
scrawny little man and wanna be tough guy
Sinatra was difficult to deal with at times, especially when he was drunk.
Frank had loads and loads of talent he was a perfectionist too.i will always be a fan of his.
😐 that's how it goes with gangster singers who hang out with real gangsters. Like every 5 foot tall rapper. Lol.