Uncovering The Roots Of Scottish Nationalism (1998)

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  • Scotland: Asserting Independence (1998) - From highland games to stand-up comedians, this film explores the roots of Scottish nationalism well before the 2014 referendum.
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    From the highlands to the inner city, Scots say the same thing: "the English government doesn’t really care about us." And so the new parliament put in place by Tony's Blair's devolution efforts is eagerly anticipated. With the help of two comedians ABC Australia scouts Scotland, searching for the elusive 'national psyche'. Yet deep sentiments are being stirred behind the tartan jokes. People are asking if it’s finally time to push for full independence. A fascinating look at the notion of Scottish independence, before the popularity of the SNP and the 2014 Independence Referendum.
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Komentáře • 71

  • @jintsfan
    @jintsfan Před 3 lety +7

    “ my mum’s pension depends on it”. No, your mum’s pension depends hugely on the revenues from the British (84% English) taxpayer.

    • @jintsfan
      @jintsfan Před 3 lety +1

      @William Dryden Yet you still live here. And with the smaller tax base in a separate Scotland, and no English taxpayer to fall back on, your point becomes ever the more important reminder for those presently in favour of separation.

  • @kratosboy5557
    @kratosboy5557 Před 2 lety +2

    Scotland absolutely should be led by Scottish people no one else

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 5 lety +12

    Scotland will soon be independent and it can't come soon enough.

    • @VincentRE79
      @VincentRE79 Před 4 lety +2

      Then prepare yourself for much higher taxes and an authoritarian nationalist government.

    • @jintsfan
      @jintsfan Před 3 lety +1

      Careful what you wish for.

    • @zo0mpa
      @zo0mpa Před rokem

      How's it looking? lol... Far Right fool.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      Scottish chickend out unfortunately

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@VincentRE79 The Conservative Tory Party are Facists especially the Brexiteers looney toons in that party.

  • @TheStobb50
    @TheStobb50 Před 3 lety +2

    The biggest thing that has brought about the resurgent nationalism in Scotland is years of neglect by the UK government. I am English living in Scotland I am made very welcome and I love it and I would not go back to England no matter what

  • @jintsfan
    @jintsfan Před 3 lety +3

    LESS THAN 20 years before this was made, the SNP was the most Eurosceptic of all the British parties. And therein lies an important lesson - beware those who make claims that are pure rubbish.

  • @DeathBringer9000
    @DeathBringer9000 Před 9 lety +5

    an independent Scotland is going to be one giant tourist trap, catering chiefly to the Americans with Scottish ancestry and English people who cant afford to go anywhere interesting

    • @martinemjt
      @martinemjt Před 9 lety +1

      and probably only for a while.

    • @Revoluxhumanista19
      @Revoluxhumanista19 Před 9 lety +2

      Scotland BELONGS TO THE SCOTTS coneon mate quit arguing :'( VIVA SCOTLAND LIBREE

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      Scottish Independence will be a massive success probably more than Irish Independence.

  • @monkeymox2544
    @monkeymox2544 Před 5 lety +5

    Right from the beginning this video is filled with inaccuracies and misnomers - the Scottish are referred to as being under 'English rule' - there is no English state at all, so how can Scotland possibly be under English rule? Scotland and England are both governed by the British parliament, which is made up of MPs from all over the UK. Scotland is under British rule, in roughly the same way that California is under American rule.

    • @monkeymox2544
      @monkeymox2544 Před 5 lety +1

      @@jardc5108 In what sense do you have no say at all? Scotland sends MPs to parliament. Scotland has as much say as any other part of the UK with an equal population. You're as well saying that London is ruled by Westminster with no say at all, since it represents a similar number of constituents and sends a similar number of MPs to parliament.

    • @monkeymox2544
      @monkeymox2544 Před 5 lety +2

      @@jardc5108 that's silly. That's like saying the Northeast of England is basically in a dictatorship because anything it says gets drowned out by other MPs. Each MP has the same voting power in the house as every other MP. Each person in the UK has the same number of votes as every other person. I'm no better represented in parliament by the fact that I live in England than you are. I don't believe for one second that all the English MPs represent my interests just because we're from the same country. You have precisely the same number of people representing you in parliament as I do: one.
      If your interests aren't being reflected in parliament, that's because we have an archaic first past the post system which doesn't accurately reflect the values of our society - and I say 'our' because I do belive in the union, and the data we have available suggests that in England and Scotland, people are very closely aligned with regards to social values. The problem is that the non-tory vote in England is split, which is why they keep winning despite a minority of people actually voting for them.
      You nationalists need to realise that 'England' isn't the problem, it's the system. And if Scotland does become independent, I can guarantee that the same factionalism will engulf Scotland, the system will come back to bite, and you'll be no better off. The worker in Glasgow has more in common with the worker in Liverpool than he does with the banker who works down the road. Independence will solve nothing, except to create more needless barriers. Frankly, I see no difference between nationalists and Brexiteers. They both want to divide people, they both look backwards instead of forwards, and they both blame their problems on an easily identifiable 'other', instead of addressing the real problems and looking for real solutions.

    • @monkeymox2544
      @monkeymox2544 Před 5 lety

      @@jardc5108 Scotland is not governed by a foreign country. It's is part of the United Kingdom, and is governed by that parliament. That's just like when Brexiteers say that the UK is governed by foreigners because of the EU, when in fact we are part of the EU.
      I'm not referring to Scotland as if it were a region of England. I'm referring to Scotland as a region of the UK, which is precisely what it is. I draw comparisons with English regions in order to highlight my point. I see no logical reason to think of Scotland any differently than any other part of the UK.
      Also, there are plenty of people in Scotland who voted for candidates in the main Westminster parties, but the SNP split the vote to such a large extent that many of those candidates didn't get in.
      You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but I don't think that an independent Scotland would be any better off, and I think the while UK would suffer, both economically and culturally. Right now I can stand anywhere on this island and say: "this is my country". In all its diversity of landscape and culture and language, from Land's End to John O'Groats and everywhere in between, it's all my country and part of my heritage. I can't understand for one moment why anyone would want to give that up for some small, parochial national identity.

    • @johnniejohnson4827
      @johnniejohnson4827 Před 5 lety +1

      Jard C I am in agreement with your sentiment entirely. It is, no matter how strenuously denied, an inherently unfair system on Scotland. I personally do not believe that having FPTP is the cause of these issues, though it is certainly in part responsible; it doesn’t at all amount to the years and years of British or English rule however which way you look at it, that has treated Scotland as nothing more than a cog in the machine. Scotland is no ‘region’ and I as a Scotsman would deprecate any such insinuation. Scotland’s voice is not heard nor appreciated and is only met with a brick wall of pure Tory impertinence and rancour. As far as I am concerned, as a Scotsman and member of the Scottish electorate. I do not feel well represented in the UK down to the fact that simply because we have a smaller population, as a country, our views are treated without the veneration they would demand - often we are unilaterally dragged into situations that are out-with our control, and antithetical to our views as a country. The idea that we are the same as a single city is ludicrous. For instance, Monkey has drawn parallels between Scotland and London but the key difference is that Scotland is a country, with elements of self-governing control. London is part of England. So, Scotland should have a greater voice than that of London. Simple as that. It is asinine to suggest otherwise. Scotland could be - and I personally hope will be - a country that is self sustaining and can make its own choices free of a government who the majority of us did not vote for!

    • @monkeymox2544
      @monkeymox2544 Před 5 lety +1

      @@johnniejohnson4827 yes, Scotland is a country. So what? If history had been different, Northumbria could have been a country. Mercia might still be a country. London could have been a city state. Your arguments only make sense to you because you cling to ancient borders that should have been forgotten centuries ago.
      You're offended as a Scotsman? Well everything that nationalists stand for, whether they be Scottish, English or Welsh, offends me as as Briton. I'm sick of all the petty little arguments which boil down to a refusal to forget ancient history and just move on. I'm sick of people who want to draw lines on maps and pretend that there are differences where none exist. I grew up amongst family from both Scotland and England, and I know for a fact that they're the same.
      There are millions of people in this country who cherish their British identity, and small minded nationalists everywhere want to do their best to rip it away whilst they simultaneously tear up an already tiny island. It baffles me. Instead of solving problems, there are people who focus all their efforts on blaming others. Instead of focusing on what brings people together, they wax lyrical about the tiniest of differences and use them as an excuse to divide people. It makes no sense, and I can't even begin to imagine thinking that way. I say yes to the UK, yes to the EU, and yes to a more integrated and cooperative world in general.

  • @johnnicolson467
    @johnnicolson467 Před 4 lety +3

    This is a turning point for Britain it won't be called the United Kingdom anymore as Scotland will soon be Independent, N Ireland will soon join Ireland so Wales and England will have to be called rUK (rest of the UK) or little Britain.

    • @arifahmedkhan9999
      @arifahmedkhan9999 Před 3 lety

      May Allah help the Scots

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      Do Republic of Ireland want Northern Ireland and their sectarain baggage?

  • @jerrycooper1428
    @jerrycooper1428 Před 9 lety +3

    As an Englishman, I agree with Scottish independance and hope they get it, sooner rather than later.
    I'll be more than glad to see the back of them and I'm sure the Scots feel the same way. Let's face it! they hate our guts anyway and always have done.
    However, I cannot understand why it was only the Scots who were allowed to vote on this issue
    Why did we the English, NOT GET TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE AS WELL? as to whether we want to keep the Scots in the Union.
    You can be sure as shit, we the English, would have said/voted bye, bye!
    Food for thought!

    • @cuddlybear9041
      @cuddlybear9041 Před 9 lety +1

      jerry cooper you will never see the back of us, hold on a second, I feel a kilt lifting moment coming on.... lol

    • @Scot-Tube
      @Scot-Tube Před 4 lety +1

      tell your boris to stop desperately clinging onto us then old chap

    • @jardc5108
      @jardc5108 Před 4 lety +1

      Aye away and shite. Nae hatred to the English down south at all. It’s the elitist pigs that feed off and show so much contempt for Scotland that are the problem. The passive aggressive wee comment really shows what a horrible wee git you are. Robbing leccy, water and money would stop and England would need to look elsewhere. Dafty.

  • @martinemjt
    @martinemjt Před 9 lety +4

    beware of pipe dreams.

  • @SVanTha
    @SVanTha Před 9 lety +4

    i wish the scots had voted for independence. it'd stop them from leaching from england as well as made them eat humble pie when they realize scottish credit is all tied to the english pound.

    • @adamfairgrieve16
      @adamfairgrieve16 Před 8 lety

      Well actually many independence supporters hated the idea of a currency union and wanted a completely new currency altogether

    • @jardc5108
      @jardc5108 Před 5 lety

      You talk some shite.

  • @thedownhillerboy
    @thedownhillerboy Před 9 lety +8

    Once again you people at Jp Pictures present us with a great though short documentary...
    Respect from a Portuguese downhiller emigrant in Holland to the Scottish people, and may God and good fortune help them achieve their so desired independence any time in the future.

    • @HarshG26
      @HarshG26 Před 9 lety +2

      Piss off,mate, The UK shall live on till the end of time.

    • @thedownhillerboy
      @thedownhillerboy Před 9 lety +1

      harsharsenal1
      You're a bit on the narcissistic side aren't you? Look at it this way,taking into account that the Scots want to brake free from you since it's obvious that you're government doesn't and can't really take care of them in a proper way,not to mention just like they said in the doc. that it's a whole different mentality,mind set,traditions and culture that you Brits have,it's only logical that there will be more money left to be spent with the entire population of England in comparison with what there is now don't you think?Just let the Scots go and y'all be left out of their jokes to begin with...

    • @thedownhillerboy
      @thedownhillerboy Před 8 lety +1

      Well nothing's lost and assuming that the ref. is legit,just give it some time for the idea and propaganda associated with it to sink in in the people's minds and you will eventually achieve your goal.At the same time it's reasonable to believe that if the English kind of have a hold on the whole UK,don't u think that a simple referendum would be something way too easy to corrupt??Just saying...

    • @thedownhillerboy
      @thedownhillerboy Před 8 lety +1

      If that's the case then it's beyond my understanding now.Maybe people think they wouldn't be much better off in comparison to the current situation of having been all this long under the 'big imperial umbrella' of the English.I guess the jokes and anecdotes will keep on being made,will they not?

    • @thedownhillerboy
      @thedownhillerboy Před 8 lety +1

      I hope that you never come to regret it and wish the best for the UK and all the UK nationals.Changing the subject now,just be aware of the huge dangers that this refugee crisis represents for all the European countries,more specifically in terms of,culture,ideas and values,religion and freedom of course.Been watching some revolting docs. on what's going on in Germany and Sweden and it sure is some unfair and incomprehensible shit,Just saw a small footage of a 4 star hotel called Maritim in Halle,which barred it's doors from one day to the other, to all of their long time employees who were told abruptly and without notice that they couldn't work there any longer as the hotel had been totally reserved/leased to receive refugees...Went to try to find the same piece of footage on the web and I saw nothing other than multiple articles telling about the same thing has been happening all over Germany.Some weird shit is going on I'm telling you.Watch it yourself, here's the link: www.liveleak.com/view?i=aee_1445577223

  • @davidgray3321
    @davidgray3321 Před 3 lety +5

    Running an economy on shortbread and Mel Gibson films is an excellent idea.

    • @davidgray3321
      @davidgray3321 Před 3 lety

      @William Dryden Good one! Bravo old boy, have a Bridie on me.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      Mel Gibson Braveheart revitalised Scottish Nationalism

  • @robertrussell2202
    @robertrussell2202 Před 4 lety

    Amazing watching this now, 22 year's later

  • @mzleveli
    @mzleveli Před 9 lety

    I got confused about what a Clan is..
    How can it be tribal, if only one guy owns the land and lives in a castle - tribes are a about communal ownership, this looks much more like feudalism.
    So what's the difference between Scottish Clans and English Feudalism?

    • @findlayyoung4
      @findlayyoung4 Před 9 lety +1

      Prior to the Jacobite rebellion of 1745 the clan system was a lot more egalitarian. The clan leader would have male relatives in his villages who would act as intermediaries between the rest of the clan and himself, the clan leaders would really see themselves as the family head, and would have a genuine bond to his clansmen.
      After 1745 these old chieftains were replaced with Anglicised relatives who saw themselves much more like English landed gentry/feudal lords, with their clansmen being little more than tenant farmers and serfs who could be disposed of at their pleasure.
      The old chieftains felt an obligation to their clansmen, whereas most (but not all) of he new lairds felt no kind of bond to their people.

    • @truefalse207
      @truefalse207 Před 9 lety

      პარტია „მძლეველი“ Scottish Clans..... A lot of the Scottish population have heritage links to clans which is usually defined by their surname, for example, someone called John MacPherson, would be related to Clan MacPherson, and that Clan usually has a Clan chief and the Clan Chief will usually live in or own a Clan castle as well as land. This is a very ancient system that has been carried on throughout centuries.

  • @willneverforgets3341
    @willneverforgets3341 Před 6 lety +2

    I can remember waking up in the bus, train or car and realising you are finally in Scotland...

  • @johnwert5488
    @johnwert5488 Před 9 lety +5

    Scotland can't live without England support

    • @Scot-Tube
      @Scot-Tube Před 4 lety +1

      other way around (see boris desperately clinging onto us )

    • @arifahmedkhan9999
      @arifahmedkhan9999 Před 3 lety

      Bs, it certainly can

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      Only Scottish Loyalists loyal to England would say that😂

  • @brachisaurous
    @brachisaurous Před 5 lety +3

    people living on ONE island want to independent from each other....HAHAHAHA....

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 Před 8 měsíci

      One island doesn't mean one country