Bobby Fischer On Spassky Rematch
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Bobby Fischer interview after becoming the 11th World Chess Champion.
LM Brian Wall On Bobby Fischer:
Bobby said and did things no one else ever said or did.
At 12 he told his correspondence opponents he was going to be World Champion.
How does a 12 year old sense his destiny already?
At 28 he said,
The Russians have had MY title for 10 years.
I am on a mission from God to take the title away from the Russians.
Every game is a challenge I must meet.
As Bobby was preparing for his next opponent, his friend GM Helgi Olafsson said,
"Why bother? "
Bobby replied ,
" You can afford to think that way, I can't."
Bobby knew his great strength and made funny jokes.
On giving up Board 1 to Larsen at the USSR vs World match at Euwe's request
because he hadn't played in a year and a half,
I must have been crazy.
On beating Taimanov and Larsen 6-0,
I am going to send a telegram to Spassky congratulating him on the right to play
me.
Bobby seemed inhumanly powerful and supremely confident.
The game made a strong impression on me-
1. Bobby didn't get embroiled in Nimzovich-Larsen Chess with a reversed Dutch,
he set up his own system where Larsen did not control e5 as a springboard to
attack.
2. Bobby never left the board, he used every ounce of energy to win. He would
complain to the organizers about disturbing crowd noise.
3. Bobby beating Larsen 6-0 was probably the greatest Chess spectacle ever
witnessed. No other World Championship Chess Candidates matches in history,
past or future, will ever go 12-0.
4. American Chess was at an all-time high, Goichberg reported his tournments
were filling up hotel rooms to the rafters.
What drives a man to win the US Championship 11-0, to win 20 games in a row
against GMs, including World Championhip candidates? Kasparov in his prime only
beat 5 GMs in a row, which he explained by saying Bobby was the first true
professional, that Bobby played the way Chessplayers played 15 years later and
that the gap between World Champion Bobby and the rest of his peers was the
greatest ever.
"There's something called genes which makes me a great Chess Champion and you're
not." he told a friend.
Everyone knew at the time it was a great privilige to watch Bobby play but no
dreamed it would end soon. I got the feeling that he devoted all his energy to
winning the title and after he started experiencing life he couldn't put the
genie back in the bottle. Chess couldn't be the only thing any more, he had
betrayed his first love Caissa in his mind, the price was too high and he didn't
wanted to be the Chess priest any more. The 20's don't last forever.
Bobby never said anything negative about Larsen, before or after the game, they
were reasonable friends, they had worked together in the past, they knew how
each other thought and felt. Larsen was Bobby's second 9 years earlier but
never asked for a second himself and even had to argue with the Danish
authorities about it. Larsen found seconds "annoying", he wanted to analyze the
adjourned positions himself. Bobby didn't gloat about beating Larsen, it felt
more like a rabbit an Africa hunter killed on his way to stalking a giraffe.
After it was all over, Bobby said that Taimanov, Larsen and Petrosian seemed to
give up internally halfway through the match but Spassky never did, Spassky
tried his best from start to finish.
Larsen blamed the heat but no one listened. They just said, Genius.
Despite wanting to beat the Russians Bobby was a secret hero to millions inside
the USSR, not just for his pure Chess but for his verbal freedom to express
himself. Bobby might have been the most famous man in the world at that point. - Sport
There should be a national Bobby Fischer Day.
on Spassky - "The best, definitely. He gave me a real fight. All the other players I've played, they crumbled at a certain stage and I never felt that with Spassky"
What an endorsement. Fischer's confidence is not offensive. He's honest.
0:28 "What do you intend to do now?" "I want to keep playing a lot of chess." Totally ridiculous question and answer, and neither of them seem to notice.
lol
Spassky was the best opponent for Fisher... and a good friend
cm legend They agreed on one issue - the jews.
He wasnt since he had 3-0 agaunst Fischer
Many thanks for posting! There will never be another like him and interviews like this are few and far between. Take Care, Buddy.
Priceless!!! Many thanks to the uploader.
"I've broken him"...lol
koko40800 It is a laughable statement for sure. Because in the end, it was Bobby that soon afterwards became broken and Spassky remained the gentleman and brilliant chess player he always was.
Danny Gee In chess terms it was no laughable statement....He said he had broken him and he would probably beat him worse the next time....And he did, in 1992 - He beat him by a five point margin, rather than four
And the whole idea that Spassky is some kind of great gentleman is a myth...He actually signed a letter accusing Jews of ritual murder, then later said "his name wasn't supposed to appear"
So Spassky wasn't such a gentleman....And yes, Fischer did break him
I hadn't heard that. Thanks for the info. How crazy...
@@MrDannyg77 Bobby Fischer was not broken by his chess opponents, but by politicians and idiotic ideologists.
@@MrDannyg77 Absolute garbage
Fischer was perfect the way he was.
He is modest and he knew he was good, so that does not make him cocky.
Defeating him with more ease, by that he means he learned Spassky's style which he would exploit in the next match.
He never went crazy, it was the Government and the media that went crazy, and any idiot that does not realise that is the madman themselves brainwashed by the loving state.
Fischer was a genius with an IQ over 180, I think the man knew what he was talking about.
are you his dad
@@ibrahimmodelkits 😂
Bobby revolutionized chess in America that exists to this day.
Thanks for sharing that extended interview clip. I'd never heard Fischer's comments before about upgrading the game, and the possibility of a rematch in the U.K. Interesting. Spassky did put up a great challenge in 1972, but Fischer was in the form of his life in that era (He'd crushed Taimanov 6-0, and Larsen 6-0, and former world champion Petrosian 6.5-2.5). So Spassky most certainly made Fischer work harder for the win. It is a real shame for the sport that Fischer never played a public competitive match after 1972 (apart from 1992 rematch with Spassky). He could have bequeathed more to the sport if he had played on after 1972. His legacy as it is is phenomenal. Along with Kasparov and Karpov, Fischer is there. My own favourite is Paul Morphy. Morphy was a genius in other facets of life, as well as in Chess.
+James Rebew If FIDE had met Fischer's conditions in 1975 (champion retains title on a 9-9 tie) - which was actually statistically fairer to the challenger than any previous formats (or any following ones ) - then he probably would have played
And his history, as well as chess history, could have been very different
Aronian was Fischer Random champ and now Nakamura. Notice how they're calling it Chess 960 instead of Fischer Random to deny any credit to Fischer for his invention.
11 years ago my days hope your alive and well but I totally agree with you
fischer is one funny dude
"I believe in good moves." "the best part of winning? breaking the other guy's ego."
I remember the Fischer/Spassky match during the Summer of 1972. I was just 14, and a very casual chess player myself, but I found it fascinating. In the afternoons, PBS would broadcast the progress of each game, and a panel of chess Grandmasters would discuss each move right after it was made. Since school was out for summer, I could watch how each game progressed. Fischer seemed like a very likeable guy. It's unfortunate that he eventually lost his marbles. I think he'd have beaten Karpov but, as Karpov said, "only someone who never plays, never loses."
Thomas Fischer those that tell the truth are always demonized.
I think it´s an interesting remark from Fischer that "all the other guys crumbled" and he didn´t feel that with Spassky. As a matter of fact, when looking at the actual games they were almost equally strong. Apart from Spassky´s one move blunders in the first half of the match (probably mainly due to all the fuzz Fischer created), it was a pretty even contest. And in the second half "Fischer was running away in every game", according to Kramnik.
fundhund62 to be fair tho, Fischer was an underdog from the start, with the Russians basically holding Spassky's hand in his improvement in chess. Bobby was a solo man playing chess in a country that didnt respect it
@John Smith nice reading comprehension
Note to self: don’t give Bobby a chair that swivels
great comment. it's nice to see other people who knew that Bobby actually knew what he was talking about instead of dismissing him as an "anti-semite."
I love Spassky. I love him more than Bobby as a player somehow. It's probably because first I'm not a American but furthermore I respect players who have balance between as a player and as a person. A person should think rationally and have a normal life like having friends and doing other things that can impact people around him and even society he is in.
Many geniuses are eccentric though, like Ivanchuk, he's eccentric, although he does seem to have a pretty normal life. HIs personality is just different, yet he's a happy, passionate, jolly person which therefore even makes his interviews always fun and entertaining to watch.
blah blah blah I love me an eccentric genius. All the greatest geniuses throughout history in art, science, math or any field have been a little off.
"I've broken him...heh heh heh."
so satisfying
props to spassky for not crumbling
spassky was a gentlemen-bobby had issues no doubt-but after seeing and viewing all the greats here on you tube in the big matches-honestly he was the best of all time. if he wasnt so crazy at times he would have been even greater. NO one was better as he was always many more moves ahead then most. he sacrificed better pieces then anyone to gain advantage. thats what stands out. In the long run bobby would defeat kasparov , and all the rest.imho
spassky and kasparov tied 2-2 so i dont feel kasparov like many say was best. i mean fischer destroyed spassky twice,in many games. im just saying.
@Biggus63
Thank you, but I still want to know exactly what they were saying in the interview.
In the first asking, what was the interviewer saying ?
I have no idea. I can hear some words and phrases. For example,
In trying, getting, record,sort of thing, purely,upgrade game,personal game,
And Fischer said
Basically do a up grade game you know?
I mean,personal game
I was just
I must be taking on chess.
Am I right?
I still struggle against hearing it.
"I've broken him." "This is really what you set out to do, huh?" "Yeah." lmao. Bobby was straight up. I hate false modesty so f- you who hate on him for telling it like it is about how good he is. Ali of chess.
I was looking at his stats before the World Championship and they were crazy. Longest streak of wins ever with 20. He won every single US championship he participated in with one being an 11-0 shut out. Wow. I could go on and on.
Where can I find the entire “park bench” interview? It seems to be part of a longer program- almost spent an entire day or couple of days with Bobby.
@ScottishNonBeliever
Has it purely been personal gain or has it really been to upgrade whole game chess?
Anyway, thank ScottishNonBeliever.
I can try to hear this interview to study English. New information about the interview makes me better.
Much better.
@thundermik
you mean that I should try to listen to this till I understand ?
If you mean it, of course I agree with you.
But I can' t understand yet although I have listened this again and again,
so I hope that someone help me.
Maybe he is confident that he win against Spassky if he do return match.
And he thought that Spassky was the best player as challenger against him.
Am I right ?
A very different Bobby Fischer. He chased something his entire life and now that he's got it he doesn't know what to do.
@Sirb0b1 You also forgot to mention Korchnoi
And Robert Duvall can do the Old Fisher character.
I agree! I've thought for years that Nicolas Cage looked like Fischer. I guess it's too late to cast him in a Fischer movie. :(
fischer was asked earlier in his carrier and he said that he thought petrosian was the best soviet player and not spassky
when u know ur going to win, and ur the best.. u can try and squeeze as much out of ur opponents as possible.
He did that, and he is winning like charlie sheen.. still.. winning.
And he was, "That Good"
@radiofreevillage All I'm saying is that Fischer had no reason to fear Karpov given what his peak was. Keep in mind that Karpov himself never reached Fischer's peak strength of 2785 in his entire CAREER.
I'm not saying Fischer was better than Karpov 3 years later or that he would've beaten Karpov. You can't get away with something like that in chess. All I know is that had Fischer kept playing with the same passion that got him the WC, I doubt Karpov would've been much of a problem.
@sdouglasFord I would love to imitate his chess moves! And I try to, but you can hold onto the good and reject the evil.
And at what part in this video does he say that?
I just remember my supporting Spassky
A Russian losing may be for him risky
And of course Russia loved India truly
Fischer came to the chess-arena newly
When Fischer made lots of tantrums
And Spassky's mind was in doldrums
I truly felt sorry for the happenings
Prayer made for peace openings.
@Cocaineffect -Yes, that's basically what he said.
That thing about upgrading the game, I'm not so sure that's what he truly meant. He needed Spassky to take the cameras off, and it turned into his favor for the rest of the match.
@radiofreevillage That makes no sense in context of how dominant Fischer was at the culmination of winning the WC in 1972. That year, he was rated 120 points higher than #2 Spassky, and 155 points higher than #7 Karpov. That kind of gap is UNHEARD of. It's not like Karpov was close to Fischer's prime.
No, Fischer didn't maintain active playing form in next 3 years, but that's a different story. My point is Fischer didn't "quit chess" because he was "afraid of Karpov." That's just silly.
fischer previously said petrosian was the the best soviet player ( better than tal & spassky) but he didn't have enough self confidence that's why he draws so many matches
It’s like a cookie, they all crumble.
@MrQmason First of all, Kramnik surprisingly beat Kasparov and won the FIDE title a few years ago, so Kasparov already lost the title and it was to one of the older guys around. Kasparov was easily the best player in the world, however he did lose the title.
Secondly, you can't make that claim for sure. Fischer and Morphy quit when they were at their peak. Some people just don't like it so much anymore and want to concentrate on other things, maybe future decline had something to do with it.
Greatest of all time, the Muhammad Ali of Chess and inventor of Fischer Random Chess, the wave of the future.
Fischer never lost a title match because he never defended his title ('92 was a joke, Spassky wasn't even 2600 then). I used to think Fischer would have beaten Karpov easily in '75, after reading Kasparov on this I'm not so sure. Chess theory was rapidly developing at that point, Karpov was an unknown quantity to Fischer, represented new ideas, might have had real chances in '75 (he had beaten Spassky decisively in candidates). Too bad, would have been great match. Ultimately of course poor Fischer fell into paranoia and delusion, very sad for such a talent. Had he balanced social skills he could have professionalized chess as Gary later did.
"Bobby fell into paranoid delusion".
Bobby was not delusional, he was perfectly sound. Kasparov needs to descredit Fischer because Fischer attacked him and accused of cheating. Kasparov made a "good move", simply joining governments and super-powers in the "delusional paranoid" thing to downplay the truth behind his statements.
Bobby was crazy because he sees what we do not.
Bobby is crazy because he speaks without covers, without thinking about social repercusion. He speaks his mind. An average person will learn to say what is socially acceptable.
Bobby made the mistake of verbally attacking the Jews, talking about conspiracies. That is what made people think he is crazy. He charged at the Jews as a "country", as he did to the United States (his own country). Bobby is obviously not a racist; he had friends and lovers from every part of the World.
Being "socially skilled" is to believe and repeat all the bullshit people say without knowing. I wish everybody stop pretending to be an expert. Bobby is not delusional. He has not been diagnosed by any psychiatrist in that respect and he shows not signs of it.
+Gregoryt700 actually 1992 wasn't much of a joke at all. spassky was still ranked in the top 30 in the world. and had played for over 20 years, while Bobby had not played anyone in 20 years, so he was stale, and beat the bejesus out of him. imagine what he would have done if he played high competition all those years with practice.
yeah, Fischer had beaten Karpov but not so easily.
Well respected strong players had the opinion that Karpov wasn't strong enough in 1975 to beat Fischer but by 1978 maybe.
karpov, yeah right
@widebody123 That may be true, but Kasparov quit chess because the younger crowd that is out there now would have eventually taken the title from him. It is the destiny of all World Champs..... can't hold the crown forever :)
upgrade the game of chess? I thought fischer wanted to degrade it, he was always saying there was way too much book and course he's right. I reckon chess was a really good and interesting game in the 1700.
hope they get cage for Pawn Sacrifice but its rumoured for Tobey Maguire to play fischer :/
Bobby Fischer was not suited to those who made chess a political soap opera in the cold war and a sensation for the media. He was a real player with no ressentiments about politics. Boris Spasski called him his friend, he visited Michail Tal in hospital in Russia and even played a game with Fidel Castro.
@radiofreevillage Except Kasparov also managed to hold his title for 15 years, and didn't reach his peak rating until 15 years after his first title, proof that one's top form doesn't necessarily end at winning the WC. The psychology you refer to may apply to normal human beings, but chess was never a "normality" for Fischer. People like him (and this is interdisciplinary) STRUGGLE to walk away from competition. So it's not as simple as him thinking "well looks like my job's done here! Adios!"
At least he’s honest abt why he wants to play: for the money!
what? he literally says in the video that he plays because he loves chess, he says if he was just in it for the money then he'd do something like the stock market
You clearly didn't pay attention. He said the opposite. And people who complain about him being a diva and throwing tantrums need to give him more respect as some players have for improving the conditions for chess and the respectability of a game since other sports get the red carpet. Chess players were given shoddy pay and facilities until Fischer demanded improvements.
@@missdee4927 so in the depiction of his story with toby mcguire, he keeps putting off a match and negotiating money. Is that all a stalling tactic on his part ?
El hecho de que hable balanceándose, algo indica; un sicólogo podria decírnoslo.
@hekoka I know everything I need to know. He was supposed to play Karpov. Instead of playing him he worked hard to skew the rules to get a huge advantage. When he was not allowed to do it, he walked away. How fitting for a coward.
Bobby would've probably won in 75 against Karpov, but he was afraid he would lose and his legend shattered. But he would've won, albeit very narrowly. Karpov was already very strong even then.
Yes Fischer would have won, but Karpov in the 80's would be a real challenger.
Fischer wasn't afraid. They couldn't agree on the chess format, etc.
He would have needed a present father.
Ryan Gosling would be a closer match I think =]
Oh so he wanted to rematch but the conditions that he wanted weren't met so I believe he dropped out of the Championship rematch
Isn't there a story that in his prep for the match Karpov was killing Spassky?
What
Huh?
@gentilguy "
Did he really say = «I am on a mission from God to take the title away from the Russians.»
Because that's reaaaaally weird. I can understand his personality now.
" Plz explain it to me because I cant.
It's called a joke...
I fail to realize how there is such a thing as a chess player "being in his prime", it seems like to me as long as a player has a strong memory in thier later years, thier prime could be considered the day they die since they have accumulated all that knowledge and experience in a game that does not require them to be physically gifted.
Accumulated knowledge is useless if the players are unable to calculate that deep. There is a reason why 80 year old chess masters aren't winning against 20 year olds.
"If I were interested in personal gain I'd be doing something else." Later: "I'd be interested in a rematch. The question is the money..." Make up your mind, Bobby.
He wasn't in chess for the gain but ofc since he did that, he needs to consider his income...
@56richardcory most grandmasters say Karpov had a 50 50 chance of beating Fischer. dont pretend to be an expert on something you are not
Yeah, he would have been good for it. I think if the 'Pawn Sacrifice' film goes through, they should dump Toby Maguire and cast Ryan Gosling. He bears a closer physical resemblance to the awkward late 20s Fischer, and even his voice is quite similar.
I want the English subtitle the interview.
I don't understand completely.
The voice is very hard for me to hear.
Please someone, native english speaker
Fischer was much better looking than Nicolas Cage. Fischer also had a serious dark side. My pet choice to play him has always been Ryan Gosling.
no he never said that, fisher was part of the church of god in the 60s only to deny that he was a member later, but he never made any religious comments having to do with chess, he simply said the russians were cheaters and were afraid of him.
and it was all downhill from here for Fischer. He never played a meaningful match again and became a raving maniac.
@sdouglasFord I totally agree. Bobby Fischer may have been a great chess player, but his perception on his opponents and the Jews is just plain intolerable.
@kikook222 Really? How about you watch 'Adaptation' and prove yourself wrong.
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD I think what's silly is to claim that three years of no playing is a different story. I don't care what shape Fisher was three years prior. First, you can lose a match being at the top of your game. Ask Kasparov, he'll tell you. Second, the guy didn't play for three years, did everything he could not to play the match and I'm supposed to assume he thought he would win. Sorry, that's just crazy.
No. Deep blue is 1st and then everyone else.
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD I'm wrapping this up since I think we've made our points. I'm not saying it was easy. And I'm not saying Fisher was a bad chess player. But in chess you gotta face your opponent and win in order to claim to be superior. Instead Fisher did everything in his power to skew the odds in his favor and then ran away. After that I'm not interested in psychoanalyzing him any further. He was supposed to fight Karpov, he ran away. That makes him a coward and a loser.
Wow! Well this is the real revelation as to this Askanazi creation...
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD Sure there were plenty of reasons. After you're on top of your form you will go down. There's nowhere else to go. He knew it. He thought he must have continued to play perfect chess and he knew there was no way. Chess is as much a psychological game as it is science.
And once again nobody has ever come close to Kasparov's peak rating and yet Kasparov lost the title.
On the plus side at least now we'll know what Nicolas Cage will look like in 20 years time.
Why doesn't he mention Tal ? Tal actually had a winning record against him. What about Petrosian ?
Tal and Fischer have an even record (overall). Tal's 4 wins were in 1959 against a 16 year old Fischer. As for Petrosian: Fischer demolished him 7.5-2.5 in candidate's tournament.
Niranjan Rajesh congrats, tal managed to beat a kid, what an acomplishment.. haha age absolutely matters
he said earlier in his carrier that petrosian maybe the best soviet player but he doesn't have enough seelf confidence hence too many draws
John Adams -- PS - losing 5 gms to a 2550 player is not elite, not beating the bejesus out of anybody.
I guess you forgot:
1. Fischer hadn't competed for 20 years.
2. At his age in 1992 he was past his prime anyway.
He was scared he robbed us
He was so brilliant..americans should have been so proud of him!..yet,another media victim.
Fischer is so figety and up himself. But we love him for his chess, not his personality right?
@capricious71 Nicolas Cage can't make a good movie though.
John Adams -- you gave no idea what you're talking about. On the July 92 list Spassky isn't even in the top 100.
Yikes, the level of these comments is so low...
+Gregoryt700 For CZcams? Not really... lol
If bobby fischer was a stock broker he would remind me of patrick bateman from american psycho....
@56richardcory Karpov definitely didn't think so. Does he have a right to an opinion? Only a crazy person thinks that somebody would walk away from an obvious victory. It's quite telling that you have to use Dr. Phil type of nonsense to support your ridiculous claim. Fischer was a good player. He was scared to lose and he ran away. You cannot beat Karpov if you're afraid.
oh please don't jinx it
You need to separate the chess player and the person... The Person. . bobby would not beat karpov.. or kasparov.. or carlsen or anand or any one of such caliber..
The Chess Player Bobby Fischer... would demolish all competition... were talking about a person that would have evolved with computer chess.. it would be IBM vs Fischer.. not Kasparov..and IBM WOULD LOSE....
His IQ was 187
@capricious71 Dear lord no. I'd never want to see such a mediocre actor portray a mysterious, reclusive legend.
ya he was brainwashed by a radio station he listened to every night
Well we know Fischer is the best of of the best. But to be the best you should face to who challenge you. Byrne and botvinnik are right that Fischer has the fear of defeat . Against unknown karpov at that time. He only wants spassky to play. If spassky qaulified in 1975 to play rematch with him. Fischer will not demand anything he wants for he knows. Spassky already . unfortunately the mighty karpov appears. For Fischer is not familiar for this Challenger but deadly opponent and young. The fear of defeat and paranoia strike Bobby Fischer. He makes demands after demands to avoid the match. Botvinnik. Byrne. Larry Evans. Are right nothing follows.
"mighty karpov" LMAO
There was never any doubt by anyone with a right to an opinion that Fischer would have crushed Karpov. I was there. On his best day, Karpov was no Spassky, not to mention Fischer. The reason Fischer never played again is simple. He discovered, for the first time in his life, that chess is like life, but chess is not life.
Why you did not say this about Karpov Mr.Fischer? You were not even confident to achieve 12-12 to retain the title and you ran away like scared cat.
@Cocaineffect then go learn english till you do
Fischer the Quitter.
He might have beaten Karpov.
But ultimately he would have faced Kasparov. No Contest.
Kasparov is definitely number 1. Fischer 2.
OMG Nicolas Cage should play him in a movie