Ring Turning with the Artisan Ring Boring Head
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- Turn the perfect ring every time with the Aritsan Ring Boring Head
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@craftsupliesusa you should make a ring turning kit with everything you need to make rings, like what you did with the Apprentice Pen Turning Essentials Kit and your Apprentice Pen Turning Starter Kit! So people can get everything in one convenient package! I would buy that!
Another excellent video Mike. Thanks for all you do!
Great Video ! Thanks !
Neat tool. Will have to save up for it. Thanks for the video :-)
Great info.. Got my subscription
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I pretty much stop to watch any videos where Mike shows up in the thumbnail, always great explanations.
That being said, please stop showing me new things to buy. I'm going broke dammit!
F Con, I completely agree. Within a half hour or so of finishing this video the first time, I had thoroughly convinced myself I had to have one of these. It should be here tomorrow.
Amazing video - thank you! Just purchased this set and trying it out. At the start you mentioned the blank size should be about 1/16" wider than the ring core. But in this example (easy to see around 5:02) it looks like the ring core is much smaller. Can you let me know what you recommend for blank width?
Also, when you insert the ring core to turn down the face with a skew, how can you tell when the ring is flush with the back (for example what if you cut in too far with the boring head and the insert sinks in too far)?
Thank you again!
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NICE! I ditched the hand tools a while back and started using my metal lathe to more accurately bore to the correct diameter. I am really glad to see this, I might have to try this too...
ALSO: You're going to need some telescopic bore gauges and vernier calipers or a micrometer. For attachment of the blank to the core DEFINITELY use epoxy, avoid using CA glue.
Take my money! I’ll save a ton on wood blanks.
Are you able to cut or mill metal with this boring head cover on the tail stock of the lathe?
Will this work on the Excelsior Mini Lathe???
Very nice. Thank you for this. What's the other hole in the boring head used for? Can this be used to cut exact sized tenons say for kitless pen work?
there are 3 holes, each to migrate to a larger hole series, the screw range is small, the holes "off centre" give the tool more reach to larger diameters.
@@andyvan5692 I believe ive seen other video's where the other holes and cutting bits are used to mill the outsides of pieces , as well as the inside !!
@@roybrower990 Yes, they are used for that (the hole thats bellow the adjuster screw), it's used as a kind of "fly cutter" on surface of parts, like a plane on wood is used to level a surface, this is used to level a metal or plastic, etc. surface in just the same way.
Using that ring turning chuck the metal inserts cover the side of the ring so much I can't round the ring or even see the metal insert. Using large inserts for a 12 1/2 size ring. Medium inserts are too small. are there other size inserts?
Another metalworking tool migrates to woodworking.
I dont understand why you don't just offer a set of drill bits that match the ring sizes? Even with a boring head its easy to oversize. Ive blown through alot of blanks and ring cores that the wood cracks on after installing it.
Not a fan of Uni-taskers that cost a C-note. What else can it do
Sorry if this is a silly question, but would 250 rpm be too fast to apply a CA finish? Planning on getting a Artisan 1420 lathe soon and that is it's lowest speed.
Hey Dustin,
250 RPM is no problem for a CA finish. I have done hundreds of CA Finishes on the Artisan 1420 Lathe. I hope you enjoy the lathe, if you have any questions don't hesitate to reach out. -Mike
What double sided tape should I use, thanks
Here's a link to the tape: woodturnerscatalog.com/products/permacel-double-sided-tape?_pos=1&_sid=4a07dedd7&_ss=r
What would be the best lathe for beginners?
if you are on a small budget, a Harbor Freight 12 x 33-3/8" lathe: aka 12 x 36
Turn crafter from pennstate! The have a great starter kit. Come with everything you need for starting out. Even has some blanks and pen kits.
I'm wondering why the ring cores aren't designed to fit common drill bit sizes. This seems like a complicated way to go about getting a proper sized hole.
Not everybody has fingers that size up exactly to drill bit sizes. Ring cores come in a variety of sizes in whole and half sizes to accommodate pretty much any human hand, from ginormous to tiny. Using proper ring cores to fit a properly sized finger will ensure a comfortable fit for years to come!
My hobby is metal machining with very little wood working so take my comments from that perspective. A half decent pair of vernier, dial or digital calipers ought to get you close enough even with there built in in-accuracy's just by simple inside and out side measurements that would allow getting any fit you'd like with that boring head a whole lot quicker than multiple trial fits. And doing so just by dialing that boring head into the correct size by using the dials numbers on it as it's supposed to be used. Yes there's far better, more accurate and much more expensive methods of inside or outside measurements, but caliper measurements would be more than good enough.
I'm constantly amazed at the money and lengths wood turners will go to trying to compensate for antique wood turning lathe designs including the most expensive and newest on the market today. If you've got a bit of room buying even a well used and almost worn out condition 12"-18" swing metal lathe 50-80 years old would still be light years ahead of today's best on the market and for probably a lot less money. I'll point out that if there old enough then sleeve bearings would be common and incapable of enough rpms for smaller work. Roller bearing head stocks can usually have the drive cheaply modified to get into the ranges most wood turning projects would need. You'd have built in longitudinal and cross power feeds for quickly and very accurately roughing projects into size, fine taper turning, threading capability, far more rigidity than any wood lathe, and adding a tool rest for hand turning is easy. An added bonus is you also have the capability of building hard to find or impossible to get parts for any additional wood working equipment. I've also used my clone of a Bridgeport milling machine to process wood working projects. Other than part sizes too large there's almost no cut or joint that can't be done in far more safety with amazing accuracy other than possibly half blind dovetail joints. And adding a decent router to gain the high rpms for that type of work is easy. Foundry pattern maker shops did and still do use both slightly modified metal working lathes and mills to do the exact same thing. If I had the room and need for a full wood working shop I'd be sure to have both a metal working lathe and milling machine in it.
You need to check out Gluboost on CZcams you only need 5 coats.
Where do I get the adapter to fit my lathe the mandrel it’s to big for my lathe
Unfortunately there really isn't a way to make a #2MT part fit into a #1MT tailstock.
having much difficulty with double sided tape.. Nothing seems to hold used Gorilla double side and would not hold. Sanded clean both ring block and jig center Help
Are you using their tape? Because normal 2x sided tape sucks. If you do use theirs and it’s falling off make sure your waste blank is clean too. If all else fails add a small drop of CA bond to the waste blank and then put your taped ring blank on it. Press hard on it to make sure it’s bonded really well.
having the same problem!! and using their tape. and tried the drop of CA glue. If you find a good solution, please post again!!!
I just use CA glue. Medium glue on the blank, accelerator on the waste block, done. Use a parting tool on the seam, sand and clean up as easy as you would if it was wood. Simple, and less risk of breaking anything trying to pry it off.
@@cindyspiers9578 ...Be sure to take your tail stock with a 60º cone installed and move it into the ring blank, applying enough pressure to make sure the double sided tape is doing the job it was designed to do. Keep the tailstock pressure applied for a good five minutes to ensure a snug fit between the tape and the wood. I use CSUSA double sided tape and have never had issues using this method. Give it a try;)
What's wrong with the website?
What's the best glue for gluing in a tungsten insert?
I'd recommend a 2-part epoxy.
Looks sweet on that Powermatic, but before you run out or go online and buy one it would be wise to checkout your tailstock. A wood lathes tailstock is not meant to use in this manner. It is designed to be static, lengthened to apply the appropriate pressure and then locked in place. It was not designed to operate while moving in and out, so the tolerances are very loose, this why Mike was using the lock to take up the play while he was moving it. Not everyone’s tailstock will respond well to this method as it is rather sketchy and is unlikely to work as smoothly on your average lathe, let alone a MIDI lathe. Just saying…
then why do I and many other pen turners drill on the lathe with no problems?
stop trying to discourage people, it'll be fine. we've drilled on lathes for years, how is boring any different, I think you're just trolling.
@@calvinwendland83731st, I'd like to thank you for removing your second comment. Calvin, the boring bar is designed to be used on a metal machine lathe, not a wood lathe. At the 3:30min mark you can see where Mike adjusts the quill lock to accommodate using the boring bar in a lathe that isn't designed to be use it. It doesn't mean it can't be used, "But" it should also be explained as such and the lathe requirements needed for it to work properly. Many if not most people use mini and midi lathes to turn pens and rings and they will not respond as well as the $4799 Powermatic 3520C shown in this video. Calvin, I'm truly fortunate to own a few lathes and I'm quite familiar with their abilities and limits. I'm just sharing my knowledge and experience so others might benefit. Heck, many have switched to metal lathes to correctly use boring bars such as Aaron Thomas (below) to more accurately machine rings and even pens for that matter.
@@toolchuck I have it, I'm going to use it. I've seen many people on my turners Facebook group use them with success. If they are meant for just metal lathes this guy wouldn't be " introducing" it as a " solution".
@@calvinwendland8373 Good for you! I don't understand why you think I'm "anti-boring bar", I couldn't be clearer on my rational. I hope it works well for you, enjoy!
I would really like to try turning rings, but I use a mini lathe and can't find one with an MT1 taper. Do y'all offer one with MT1?
The ring boring head & cutters are available at Bangood at half the price of Craft Supplies USA
Actually Dave, at "Banghead" the Boring Bar head is $49 and the 9 additional cutters are an additional $25. Plus shipping. But you do get to wait weeks (or months) for delivery from your friends in China !
Annnnd of course it's only in MT2. Because no one would EVER use an mt1 mini lathe for rings...
That’s because they are actually selling a boring tool designed for metal working milling machines. This not something that was “invented” for woodworking.
@@rah4822 I'm well aware that it's a boring head for machining seeing as I have one for my mill. That aside, given you can find boring heads with a MT1 taper pretty easily, it originating as a machining tool has nothing to do with my pointing out them failing to carry it in that size....
Sorry man, didn’t mean to imply anything, it just frustrates me when these venders try to market something that’s been around for decades and jack up the price because they found a new application.
or like, use a drill?
what??- this is a Boring head for a Milling machine, you use it vertically for precision hole boring METAL, not wood!
I bought one of these tools. The bore is slightly tapered. Not sure if it is the tool or my lathe.
Check to see if your centers are in perfect alignment. There are a couple other things to check as well. Give us a call at 1-800-551-8876 and we can help you out.
I have the same problem with the one I bought.