How Gen Z Changed the Internet
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Linus wants to talk about generational differences and the “millennial pause.”
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Looking at the Wikipedia article this seems to be an example of circular reporting. Essentially a single tik tok user in 2021 made a video about it and now a number of news sites reported on it citing each other. There are no scientific studies on it, there is no scientific literature, studies, surveys, or research on this whatsoever.
Gen Z is the generation with almost all information from humans at their fingertips but chooses to make up their own definitions of words because it takes too much time or it isn't interesting enough to be right. Thats all im gonna say. 😬
What would be the actual purpose of wasting time and resources doing a “scientific” study on a literal meme?
Welcome to pretty much all news.
@@MrDeathstab hate to break it to ya, but, it ain't Gen z making sh!t up. It's gen X, Y, and the boomers who are choosing not to use the systems in place to do proper research.
Yes, Gen z, and Mellenials will make up words for fun, but its the older generations who keep taking them and using them unironically.
@@dragon1130 I understand where your coming from but you can't expect 60 years of knowledge or however many years to be just dumped out. Young people have the ability to adapt and learn and the older generation has passed that point in their life... thats a fact and it gets ignored completely in the argument. Also it required effort and motivation to know information, it no longer does. In fact today your rewarded for making stuff up most of them time because reality isn't interesting enough?(Guessing thats the idea ) . Embarrassed gen z btw 🤣 I always hate that I'm looped in with people that can't do their own research and can't stay on 1 topic longer than a sentence. This is definitely a topic thats being covered with a wider blanket that is needed.
I always thought the millennial pause was due to us millennials learning to record things before devices were good enough to instantly record.
That is the case
as a millenial who doesn't record themselves often at all, but who remembers the first few times I did (on like my first phone). This'd definitely be it for me. I had too many awkward little videos as a teenager where I started speaking too early and had to re-do it.
That is the case
Yeah, even I as part of gen z understand that there is a delay between when you press the record button and when recording actually starts in most applications and on most devices (at least in the ones that I've used). I always pause at the start of any recordings but I think another reason why people on tiktok don't is because of the time constraint on videos. It's like a 60 second time limit or something, a pause would eat up a second or two so they learned muscle memory to be able to talk right at the start of the recording (or tiktok starts recording right when you press record on most of the newer devices) and it allows them to squeeze in a couple extra seconds of content into that video if they wanted to.
I always thought the same thing
I always just assumed that was called "good recording etiquette". A heck of a lot easier to edit out one extra second of silence than it is to redo an entire take if your timing was off. It'd be like recording a band in a studio and telling them, "hey yeah no count-in or anything today guys, just start playing the instant you see me hit this little button." Invites lots of potential problems, with literally zero benefits.
It also gives the viewer a chance to take in the situation before the talking starts. Tiktok-style videos aren't just time-limited, but the way most people binge-watch them, the whole idea is to get inundated.
@@theprogram863 A very good point. Since watching this I've been paying more active attention to the way videos open, and how it affects my interest in them. And I realized how much more like a conversation videos that begin with a "pause" feel, priming me to actually pay attention. Much like in real life, if someone walks up and just immediately starts talking it'll likely just kind of wash over me until I ask them to start over, since I wasn't given time to sync with their head-speed; for lack of a better way to describe it.
Yeah, it’s good recording etiquette. Just edit that embarrassing seconds away
@@MichaRoden Precisely, or at least give yourself that buffer to edit around. Better than opening a video already halfway into a word like an impatient child. It's kind of surreal how many TikTok videos remind me of the little skits I'd record with my friends on my parents' Hi-8 camcorder in elementary school. And that really isn't even a sleight against TikTok; it's genuinely entertaining for that very reason.
exactly this. I'd rather do a minor edit than re-shoot an entire video I just made. Different tech, devices and apps all have their delay so it makes sense to subconsciously be courteous so as not to stuff up the recording. Anyway I'm rambling
I think part of the reason the boomer stuff started really taking off was because of schooling. I think literally everybody has had experience with the teacher trying to get a computer (or even a vcr) to work and just utterly failing, only for some school aged kid to get up and fix it in 20 seconds.
It felt especially painful to me in college when my computer science professors could barely work their own computer. I remember being "taught" how to use Word in college (as a required course) in freaking 2008.
And of course the irony now is that there probably does need to be a class on Word now that computer literacy has gone back down due to the rise of smart devices.
Im in my 11th year and the sheer amount of times i've been asked to help with computer stuff is kinda boggling lol
The first school where I was had pretty nice 32"(?) LCD TVs in classrooms but they were almost never used because the teachers didn't know how to use them. I saw them in use for maybe 5 times in the 5 years I was there.
There was computers too which were rarely used for the same reason.
Aside from a few outliers (people who are interested in tech) it seems like the generation who grew up with computers that kept breaking down is the only generation that's really comfortable with them. Older generations that didn't have them and younger generations that are used to everything being a self-contained app seem to have much more difficulty troubleshooting.
I am gen X teacher, I don't need help from my students to use technology and often I have to teach my 2023 teenager students how to use Word, email... Labels are shit. I am sure that your university course had many students that needed it and I am also sure that the University was out of touch.
I also had a college class about using Word and Excel, but those programs do have a lot of complex features that the majority of users don't know anything about. Ironically, the information in that class ended up being more useful in my real life jobs more than most of my college coursework.
Linus not trusting the note stylus but forever trusting the swear button 😂
the swear button isn't bluetooth ;)
what does that mean?
@@foxboy3000 If you ask about my comment: The swear button is hooked up via USB, the stylus he described used bluetooth which was very unreliable compared with wires.
@@foxboy3000 Look at the way he reaches for something on the desk just as he's about to utter profanity-since this is a live show, they can't cut it out or bleep it while editing, they have to do it themselves if they don't want to get demonetized.
@@deus_ex_machina_ Keep in mind that moderate swearing is fine as long as its not at the start of the video and the button is mostly used for comedic effect. Though do take this comment with a grain of salt because I'm not actively keeping up with CZcams rules
I tell people all the time, millennials are uniquely positioned to know a time where tech wasn’t so advanced but also see how it’s grown and changed the world over a short time
Gen x not gen y
Yeah, to see the rapid changes over the years. This is quite a confusing time for me with things changing/advancing tech, new tech gets developed you learn it/gain access to it then tech get suplanted by new tech or just forgotten since the old one is much efficient or capable. Also tech gets developed but the mindset or common sense is slow to develop which results in you being stucked between using the old methods or new ones that are not tested/accepted yet, risking criticism.
I mean I am Gen Z as well and I definitely pause and double check photos I take.
GenX not millennials. We were the 3rd year to have access to PCs at uni so had the run of those first websites. Browsers were only just becoming a 'thing' in '94...
@@james.telfer Nah. Early Millennials were born before the advent of public internet and then as they literally came of age the internet suddenly exploded into being. Knowing what it was like "before the internet" but also having the end of our formative years shaped by it means we are the only generation in history with that perspective. Gen X were all adults by the time the internet came out.
I'm all for Luke's suggestion of already talking when the stream starts.
But it needs to be something completely random and confusing.
Example.
In 5. 4. 3. 2. 1.
Luke: and that's why it makes more sense to have them use spoons for cavity searches at airports.
Linus: Good point, I never thought about them that way.
Luke: oh were live.
Linus: Welcome to the WAN show.
In medias res.
@@nickthaskater I knew there was some Latin term for it, but for the life of me I just couldn't think what it was.
Ah yes, lets joke from gen Z and make reverse millenial pause. You don't know what you missed casue we purpusly started early.
Being in IT, you learn not to trust technology did its one job. I run into problems all the time with voice messages where you miss half the message as the person pushed the button as they start talking and the recorder had a second delay before it starts. Voice control isnt much better. I dont see why waiting a second for the technology to start working is a generational thing.
As a Gen Zer I can tell I have that issue a lot when using voice search, so I also Millennial pause
agree with you, happens in what'sapp voice messages for instance! gotta wait a sec before I talk or whatever I said at the beginning will be cut out
Well ideally you'd buffer before the visual/audial queue that you're ready to go. Then you can just detect when there was some activity etc and use that data. I would say a thoughtful programmer would plan for that from the start.
EDIT: OK, reading some of the other messages this would not be a good solution, would be wasteful and there's privacy concerns. The WhatsApp example is a good one. Hmmm, that shouldn't happen though, there's no reason for a computer to have a human noticeable delay buffered or not buffered. Where the buffered thingy would maybe make sense is a voice mail system? Actually the more I think about it the less I like it, I don't think there should be any form of recording ever, before a clear queue that it's recording.
"Cause you're a milenial" is such a fast and golden answer
YES 😂
the smug fucking smile afterwards
Same goes for “OK Boomer”
Luke's Quick Wit
Lukes also a millenial, shows all ages have diversity.
The Millennial pause is simply a product of the crappy webcam and cellphone camera software and hardware we had to navigate. It wasn't until very recently that the hardware/software became fast enough to start as soon as you hit record.
And that's still only on pricey flagship devices, which the average person, at least here where I live (Poland), generally does not have, especially given some time for the device to wear down. And even then, it's hardly instant, and even then, some devices will *look* like they started but won't actually save the very beginning for some ungodly reason. The pause is there purely so that I actually get the beginning. I can cut off an empty beginning, I can't restore a missing one.
@@astra6640 the average phone will start recording instantly. That's what most people base this off of. Gen Z grew up recording with phones, as opposed to webcams + normal cameras (some of which still have delay).
@@astra6640 so there's The Millennial Pause and there's The Polish Pause. ;)
@@Noah-lj2sg I mean that's a bit of a lie, I don't know about other places but I'm pretty sure I'm gen Z (2003) and phones, especially smartphones if you go a couple of years back, certainly have not been able to reliably do that long enough for me to be able to say I "grew up" with that capability... given that I'm 20 this year and pretty sure growing up was a while back. And sure, maybe brand new phones do get that, but even flagships will often start struggling to keep up after some use, and not a lot of people I know can genuinely afford to replace a phone when something as minor as occasional slowdowns and stutters (especially at low battery) start happening.
Maybe this argument could be made for younger gen Z, but older gen Z? Somehow I doubt that. Unless everybody over in the US where all this is based on could always afford high end phones, I guess. After all, the earnings here are much lower, but prices generally are not, and are sometimes actually higher depending on the product.
when I hit record on my Sony Handycam, it started recording instantly. When I started recording on my Motorola Razr.... it also started recording instantly... I do not see the logic behind this "tech used to be slower to start up" meme, unless we are talking about vacuum tubes and film that had to be cranked by hand
When I started supervising employees I had a training with other new supervisors on how to supervise incoming interns. It was entirely focused on "How to Manage Millennials" and the ways in which Millennials were different, implying different from us, the new supervisors. At the end I had to point out that this was a training conducted by two members of GenX, to a room of Millennials, about managing GenZ.
Oh Lord
The Millennial Pause sounds like some people just don't understand how video recording and streaming works, and don't actually care if their audience hears the whole message or not. I went to video production school and I am never not going to have a pause at the beginning. I'd much rather edit than have to reshoot. And if it's live, I'm doing a countdown.
You can always edit out the pause. In movie production they always have the camera rolling, they rather cut out the unnecessary than try to create new frames.
The entire topic is kind of interesting but the entire "Roast" Linus gave Luke at around 4:00 was absolutely the highlight
In my opinion, the "millenial pause" is something smart because you can always remove it from the beginning of the video whereas when you watch a lot of stuff online, usually because this pause isn't there, the first word is almost always chopped off.
And honestly this millennial pause I've always done and I'm supposed to be gen Z (I'm from 2001), and I think that may be because I'm more tech savvy so I know what can go wrong with tech even though it's much more reliable than before.
Because we know tech is not reliable and its always good to take a safe route, and yeah I am too born on 2001
Yeah saying it’s cringe is so dumb, like how dare you make sure to properly record yourself.
It could be the fact that Millennials have used more than one or two devices in their lifetime with different “pause lengths,” while younger viewers have had a much shorter experience with only one or two different devices.
I have a 13-year old step daughter, and her and all of her friends have literally zero knowledge of which camera has what specs, or how varied they actually are. I take selfies with my rear camera, and I tried to teach them, and they aren't even capable of understanding the concepts when broken down, not because of intelligence, but because they cannot be bothered to learn about what they don't care.
Give it a few years and you might notice a change in that.
@@1stAshaMan Fingers crossed! It's insanely hard being a step-father figure who has so many child-like tendencies (as far as entertainment and having fun are concerned), but still lacking connection because of the usual aspects, and the step-father angle. You'd think being a gamer with an amazing PC (she can play), VR, etc, I'd be winning, but nope! Been in her life for 5 years now, so it's nothing new haha
I have an older sister, she is 22 years old, and I am experiencing the same thing
I am trying to teach her basic tech stuff, but she gets bored after like 2 seconds, she can never concentrate (as if she has ADHD) and she'd rather spend 10+ hours talking on the phone with her friends.
@@arjix8738 but does she only use the speaker phone mode when she is talking on the phone. For no reason.
Who cares that the back camera is better? You’re the one not listening. 35mm was better than a Polaroid, but we loved taking stupid instant pictures because they were just fun. Everyone would do the group shot silly face omg better take another because it was so bad Polaroids. Front cameras are for fun selfies. They aren’t going to be printed. They’re not going to be blown up to poster sizes. They’re just spiritual successors to bad (but well loved) Polaroids.
Besides, those front facing cameras are now out specing cameras we used to use in studio work when I worked in a print design studio in the early 2000s. Pretty sure we used a Canon 5D at the time, so same megapixels as the front cameras now.
You guys might be a bit out of touch with this since you have your own company, but in general staying in the same job rarely brings any benefits anymore, raises and promotions aren't really a thing and companies cut you out like nothing while raising executive salaries, and companies tend to try avoid paying severance. the only way to get a better salary and conditions is to job hop with your currently better resume. very few trust companies pay them the benefits they deserve in the long term and rightfully so.
this is especially emphasized in software engineering. where you can literally double your salary with a single job hop sometimes meanwhile your current employer is refusing to even match inflation.
"raises and promotions aren't really a thing" ... "current employer is refusing to even match inflation"
Then the employer is an idiot and has to search for a new employee (who will ask for higher salary anyhow).
Why would he not increase the salary and instead loose a competent employee with acumulated know-how vs. searching over month for somebody new who starts with zero knowledge about project/customer/software?
Honestly as a software engineer I'd rather earn less and work for a company where my skill is valued. I've gotten a 20% raise in the last year despite my company being in trouble like many others because my hard work is being valued. Meanwhile larger companies that pay more are firing people for no reason other than "it's a recession". Getting the highest pay isn't everything, but if it is to you, you will job hop a lot.
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 Oh, that's very simple, HR sees everyone as a replaceable, interchangeable cog in the machine, and the one time cost of 4 weeks of training (if that) is much cheaper than giving more money.
Dredge the bottom of the sea, it makes the quarterly reports look good.
pretty much, i'm 28 and when i was growing up i was told to "work hard, be loyal, take that overtime, don't take too many sickdays if you don't have to and eventually you'll be rewarded with a raise or that fancy promotion"
So thats what i did when i got my first full time "real" job, i went above and beyond and did more than what my contract would require of me, never complained, never called in sick, worked extra days when i was asked to and in general worked my ass off. And what did i get? well....more work, the faster and more effecient i worked the more i was expected to do as a standard, other colleages quit so eventually i had to do the work of what used to be done by 2 people and i can manage that because of my experience at the company and if i were to quit they'd have to hire at least 2 people to get the same results, on top of that so many have quit without replacement that if i were to quit now they'd basically be forced to shut down the entire buisiness because it couldn't function anymore without replacement. Yet the only raise i've gotten is the yearly legally required raise that is supposed to "keep up" with inflation but doesn't.
I might be able to get a small raise after a fuckton of bitching, complaining and confrontation or quit and play a game of "chicken" to see if my boss suddenly is able to give me a raise which would make the job even more miserable OR i could simply just look for the same job elsewhere and START making more from day 1. I've seen this story so often on reddit or other social media where they had to fight HARD for a deserved 5% raise when they simply could work elsewhere and do the same job for a 15% raise or other people that job hopped multiple times and managed to make DOUBLE within just a couple years of doing that.
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 They're not after good employees, they're after ones who don't know better and are easier to control. If they put out an ad and get someone fresh out of whatever, they can literally groom them to never think to go anywhere else. Pizza parties and carefully practiced CEO feel good "unplanned" pep talks. They'll pass out a 26 page employee handbook on hire to sign that's been carefully written to make you understand laws wrong but not get them legal flak, and if you point that out, you're quiet fired. Do anything they don't like, and you're not getting a talk about it, you're getting replaced as soon as they can.
If they can hire a replacement and get a semi-competent employee in 4 weeks, they're back in the green by week 8-12, and any new contract loopholes are easy to thread in. These companies are everywhere. Welcome to corporate, put this policy mask over your soul and do your job.
Hearing you all rant about the things I rant about struggling with (gigs, groceries, wages, etc) instead of talking tech for a bit was strangely therapeutic 😂
Facts
This is truth!
Two bags of Tyson Any'tizers Honey BBQ Boneless Chicken Bites and two 6 packs of A&W Root Beer ran me $25 at Wal-Mart.
It's insane how expensive stuff is.
Don't even get me started on hair cuts and how they keep going up and up and up damn near every time I go to get my hair cut each month.
I remember when a haircut was $15
now it's damn near $30.
@@StaceyAyodele an easy saving is not buying Tyson Any'tizers Honey BBQ Boneless Chicken Bites and instead buying local chicken and the ingredients to make them. Don't let the corperate markups dry you for no reason, make your own and use the extra money elsewhere. Same could be for learning to cut your own hair
@@yournewworldleader3584 1. chicken is expensive regardless of how it's purchased. Those two bags of chicken bites are cheaper than a family pack of 24 chicken wings.
2. I tried cutting my own hair...it did NOT end well XD. I had to cover my head for months until my hair grew back. I have to have a barber cut my hair XD.
its definitely a breath of fresh air to see a major tech influencer talk about stuff like that and not frame it from an anti regulation libertarian angle.
If you have a trash mic, having that 3-5 seconds of audio background noise at the beginning helps a lot to clean up the audio. It also makes it super easy to connect different short recordings because you have enough time for transitions.
I do agree with the start of the video about "there are boomers who built the internet and also ones who are illiterate on technology" and while there are college age kids who are tech illiterate, boomers are on another level. Like unable to change phone backgrounds after the 12th time explaining it, not understanding that texts are in an app not just your notification bar. Not just not understanding, but actively avoiding learning how their WORK computer functions to the point where printing is a struggle for them daily.
Just my two cents as a tech kid in corporate america
I will never understand the "not only not understanding, but refusing to learn how their computer works" part, but it's so painfully true!
Do these people not realize they're only making their everyday life unnecessarily hard for themselves? 😪
Honestly it is kinda crazy how bad some younger people are at troubleshooting/problem solving. Idk if it's just a lack of confidence or unwillingness to figure things out, but there has progression and regression in this area for sure.
I'm a millennial but my year is the one that's always debated on ('96). I remember learning about "safari" in 3rd grade but didn't connect that was the internet when I actually had it for myself in 6th grade. I still had to use 95% books on my essays. My teachers said that websites are not reliable sources and I had to learn how to write out the stupid bibliography on notecards. I don't miss writing those. For the job hopping, yeah. I started in retail/ grocery. The "boomers" are absolutely brutal towards employees. There are karens daily. Who wants to work in those conditions for $7.25 before tax, about $6.75 after tax per hour?
I'm Gen Z according to the timelines that are out there on the internet, but I really feel I am of the Millenial-Gen Z crossover in certain ways. There's things that both generations like and grew up with that I also experienced, or I understand those generations nuances and thinking. My "growing up years" or my child to teenage years was in the 2000's to 2010's. A lot of my nostalgia, say when it comes to TV comes from anything shown in the mid 2000's to the late 2010's decades, but because reruns were a thing on TV, tons of "Millenial shows and content" I also intook a lot. As for the recording thing, yes, I am a pauser before starting to speak in a video, lol. And as what Luke said, TikTok is foreign to someone like me. My generation grew up with MSN, the birth of CZcams, and then later Instagram, Snapchat, and Vine were introduced as the big social media players of the time. Vine also started and died in my growing up years.
Zillenial
Same I remember being a kid when the iPhone came out
Late 90s kids being grouped in with gen z when we grew up with VHS players in the house and gen Z grew up with iPhones is the most mind boggling thing
I'm an '06 kid I don't feel like I fully fit in with Gen Z with everything. I don't even use TikTok. I feel like im 60-75% there
A more firm way to tell which side of the line you stand on, imo, is if you have firsthand memories of the 911 attacks. There was a large shift in the cultural zeitgeist that most zoomers don't remember or werent around for.
It used to be really common for CZcams videos to be one second shorter than the original video file because of the video encoding or backwards compatibility or something.
If you didn't have the millennial pause or an end-card, then your video would be bizarrely cut off in a way that you couldn't control at all.
I'm gen z, but pretty early one, and I'm pretty sure what is the source of the pause. It's confidence. When things have a 50-50 chance of not working, you will wait a signal, any type, that gives you feedback on whether it does record. Also essentially there's how recording is considered. If recording isn't as natural as breathing to you, you wouln't be able to easily start talking without bracing yourself. I found that an easy way to test that is how we handle calls. When I pick up calls, I don't wait before saying anything, when my parents would wait for the other party to say something. I don't consider calls any different from talking to someone, and it changes my behavior.
LMGs consistency is what has kept it #1 in my mind in the tech space. I haven’t been following avidly for a few years but I can tell at a glance that your channels are still the same and even better quality and value than they were in 2018 when I first started watching. It allows me to feel confident in recommending your videos and also using them as references to help out and troubleshoot for various things my friends and family need tech wise
In the pandemic, me and a friend build a video streaming platform for DJs where they could play sets and receive "tips" through their set. Ended up not being a success, but I learnt *a lot* about video streaming tech.
Our site had a small cluster of video encoder servers. They took the RTMP video stream (from obs) and had to re-encode for the various resolutions and bitrates (1080p, 720p, 420p, etc) and also slice up the video into segments which when all put together becomes the HLS streaming video.
For a start, a huge amount of the delay comes from the fact that the video gets sliced into little segments (e.g. 6 seconds) which are then sent to the viewers. These might be say 120 to 500 kilobytes each, depending on quality. Furthermore, there is always a buffer on the encoding so that if there is any sort of connection loss from the streamer, it doesn't cause the whole system to drop; instead you want a short drop (e.g. 1 or 2 seconds) to be hidden in the buffering. These short drops or latency spikes happen way more often than you'd expect.
So from memory we had 6-second chunks and the system was configured to have 2 chunks of buffer, so you'd always be between 12 to 18 seconds behind. You also save the chunks on the server for a period of time, so if you saved 20 chunks then you'd have two minutes of video, which is the maximum time "behind" that a viewer could get. CZcams use their unlimited bandwidth to save *all* the chunks of the stream, and this eventually becomes the stored video copy.
There is also the latency between the streamer and the encoding infrastructure, and then back to the viewer. This may be say 200ms in each direction, depending on where people are located. We had infrastructure in the U.S. because it was cheaper, even though most of our people were in Australia. Also it seems that a lot of ISPs will "fast track" small requests to make HTTP traffic faster, but some services (e.g. RTMP) get higher-latency connections. It was unusual because we could ping a server in less than 200ms but often the RTMP was more like 300 or 400ms behind.
One last thing which was interesting was the auto-scaling. We were doing this project on the smell of an oily rag, so we didn't run the expensive encoder servers unless if they were needed. We would scale-up when a stream was started, and scale-down when one ended. We could place multiple streams per server, and would vary the server size based on the time of day to get the best utilization BUT in many cases a machine would need to be *added* to the fleet before the stream would start. These would be auto-provisioned off a disk image, but would add about 40 seconds to the start time.
In the end, the project was not really successful. Not long after we started, Twitch had the same idea and added a "music" section, and we basically couldn't compete with the 300-pound gorilla, nor could we afford the infrastructure because powerful compute (to transcode multiple video streams) is expensive, and bandwidth is even more expensive.
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That. Is. Cool. You my friend, are a beast. Yeah, sometimes you can’t compete with a 300 lbs gorilla but you can kick in the nads. I sincerely wish you success in your next project.
Cheers from Canada!
Sounds sick
AWS has a lot of managed services for video streaming now. It is not that hard to set up a streaming service but it’s not cheap either.
@@JediRhymeTrix Yeah at the time, elemental encoder was far too expensive. About 10x more than our system was, whixh ran on EC2.
Also, at the time there weren't good services for dynamiclly managing streams. It was all geared towards broadcast, so like you'd set up endpoints and provison capacity and it was all auto-failover and bandwith provisoned. Took a long time (10+ mins) to start a stream. Would have been perfect for streaming the Formula 1 but not really suited for our twenty-minute little DJ sets. Also mad expensive.
My first camera was a tape camcorder that would literally cut off the first 2 seconds when you hit record.
It became very much a habit to record and wait a second before starting what ever it was I wanted to record.
When I was a kid I got pretty good at mentally timing when it was safe to talk, but then when I got older I do it out of habit and since I'd be editing afterwards anyways it's not an issue at all.
Plus, it's fun to re-live the conversations that would happen behind the scenes.
You're making me think of recording with magnetic audio tape, too. Similar thing. We had to consider the lead and the uptake of the motor, etc.
One thing they didn't notice/mention about the Millennial Pause, is that it grabs attention right away. All over Tik Tok and CZcams Shorts, there is no delay when the video starts. The content is immediate and makes it easier to grab attention and move to the next video
I think this is how it started. Someone discovered it as a hack to grab attention at the start of a video and it's since become normalized.
It’s a trend, not a generation thing. If anyone uses tiktok, it’s a lot faster, no time for pauses.
@@thegaryman5 exactly. And it's usually a video editing thing as well. It's not hard to crop out the first second or two of the video
Because when we first started using that crap, everything took way longer to load and was not instant. You get into the habit of having to wait for load time, which a lot of people have no idea how good they have it with instant experiences, and you get your millennial pause. Simple as that.
When you go to load up the computer and go to the bathroom while waiting for it to prompt the password screen so that you can enter the password and make yourself a meal and come back to the computer finally being open
We millennials just get hate from all sides. Get slammed by the economic crash while also being told we're lazy for being tech savvy by the same generation that crashed the economy. Yet also being told we're tech cringe by Gen Z. 🤔
The common grounds that Boomers and Gen Z have are dunking on Millennials and forgetting that Gen X exists.
@@frozenbean to be fair we also have the same problem with economy crashes but millennials haven't realized that their almost 40 and keep going with the "how do u do fellow kids angle"
Gen Xer, here, and I'm always getting shit for simply having a modest mortgage by people fresh out of school (high school or college). I was fresh out of school 30+ years ago, too, without a pot to piss in. I lived in a 2-bedroom apartment with 4 other people just to make ends meet. I wasn't born with my house or anything else.
Yet, I keep hearing how younger people have challenges I can't possibly imagine. I've been homeless at 16-17, I've been assaulted in ways that would make your mama cry (and nearly didn't survive), and I didn't go to college because I couldn't afford it (this was before student loans were dispensed like Pez). I've worked some really shitty jobs, some really good jobs, and eventually started a business I ran for nothing while I held down a just-okay job. It was about a dozen years before it could support me enough to work on it full-time and even then, things were lean. After a couple years for reasons out of my control, I had to go back to working for other people. Sometimes that's how it is. Now that I'm older, I have some medical issues that young people never think will happen to them. I didn't.
Only when my partner and I got married and worked our asses off for three years cleaning up our credit and saving every penny we could, were we able to buy our modest home. In our 40s.
No, this isn't a "kids these days" thing. It just seems like some people see what IS and don't consider all that WAS. And when you do try to show that the path from nothing to something was a long, winding journey (that isn't over yet) and not a shortcut, they reject it as "boring and dumb" (actual quote). Steering your life and saving up for a goal might seem like a bummer, but a worse bummer is not doing those things and stagnating your whole life. IMO, having money in the bank and a little control over your own life feels a hell of a lot better than the latest gadget, a vacation, or an expensive car ever will. At 18, I might have scoffed at that, too, but it's true. Maybe it's just one of those things we all have to learn for ourselves as we fall asleep in a warm bed with a supportive partner, while remembering trying to sleep under an overpass with a knife in each hand.
BTW, that economic crash happened to everyone but the obscenely rich. We VERY nearly lost our house (twice) and livelihoods. We had to negotiate constantly and beg and borrow to keep our home. It took five years to (mostly) recover. My spouse was out of work for 19 months; I was out of work for about 6. My father was hit hard and had to sell his home at a loss. He was of the silent generation. My sisters, actual baby-boomers and their families suffered terribly as well. One had to move 3000 miles away for her spouse to get a job that only lasted a year. The other did lose her home and her daughter attempted suicide at 14 because she thought it would save money. There have been lasting effects. I could go on.
It hit everyone hard but I often see millennials speak as though it happened only to them, I'm guessing because many were just coming out of college but couldn't get a job, which is very understandable stress. And, young people (teen-mid-20s) often have a self-centric view of the world regardless of what label they're pinned with. But, trust me. It's a lot easier to be broker-than-broke when you're young and starting than with a family in tow in your 40s, 50s, or 81, as my dad was at the time. Yes, thankfully he also did have a good IRA but he was not wealthy by any stretch. He needed the sale of his home to pay for medical expenses.
The pandemic hit us just as hard and we're still struggling. Sure, we went from traveling for work to working from home for a while but thanks to being in education-related fields, I lost my job and my spouse's salary was cut 60%. We've been 1-2 months behind on our mortgage for nearly two years and I'm working my way through thousands of dollars in medical bills $15 at a time. I'm not interested in hearing that because I was born between some arbitrary dates, I've got it made or am the cause of anyone else's problems.
I'm not saying that was your message, OP, but it's the messaging I've seen for years and it's just dumbfounding. Being considered too tech savvy or 'tech cringe' aren't even on my long list of things that matter. If those are your biggest problems, you are truly charmed. But for me, what some stranger thinks of how I use my 4+year old phone (the horror!) isn't what I'm going to be thinking of on my deathbed.
@@bluespidergaming7719 So many zoomers are well into adulthood in an infantile state of mind. I don't see that going differently.
In my personal experience, the "millennial pause" makes sense because of all the times the technology I've used in the past has a certain lag when starting that I've far too often had my first word cut off at the beginning of the video.
I like how the wiki article states Gen Z are also guilty of the "gen z shake" ... shakily placing the phone down on something as the video is starting... or starting recording while mid-chew or something to seem like they were just soooo busy doing something before randomly hitting record... thus also taking a moment before they can talk.
So we're all cringe. Own it.
There was an intern(gen Z) I worked with that accused me of being guilty of the "millennial pause" and my response was: "Maybe I do it because my generation was taught to think before we speak..."
He was not amused...
That is brilliant and I am now going to use that 😂
If only it was true, this world would not be in this shape 😂 Well, it's true, they think about how to turn the situation to their advantage, no matter the consequences but yes, the two methods are not better than each other 🙃
Gen Z will just come back with “no- we already thought about what to say before hitting record”
"I wonder what important message this gen Z'er got"
That taking a moment to think, that has saved me from doing or saying stupid things so many times. Never once stole a soap dispenser, and I certainly was never silly enough to immortalize my mistakes on the internet.
Thats why we make a manual save before closing a game because we dont trust the auto save
In high school, my school was on a T1 line (the whole school) in about 2000. I remember my FBLA teacher being super excited about the ability to stream a video over the Internet without having to download it first. Amazing! I also remember when the first 1GHz processor came out and how exciting that was. Also lived through the Y2K scare. I also got a Gmail account early enough that it was still a private invite beta. Ask Jeeves, yahoo search engine, Hotmail, AOL, moving from a dialup connection at home to DSL and the huge jump that was. Perspective. It's easy to forget what it was like before.
Oh I remember school projects revolving around ask jeves
"millennials are job hoppers" yep, that's what happens when your only raise happens when you get a new job
Every job be like "No Time off, No Benefits, Pay $10 less than a full time worker, if you work here for 6 to 8 months we will hire you full time" fires you always after no time off, always early, full 8 months, with full overtime. Oh jee wonder how that started.
The food price thing is definitely pretty nuts. I also never really paid much attention to grocery prices. I'd look at a couple individual prices, but I didn't pay too much attention and would be too focused on the process of checking out to actually listen to the price at the end, so I'd usually find out how much I spent when I looked at the receipt or checked my bank account afterwards. But without fail, it was almost always between $120-150 every time for a shopping cart stuffed full of groceries that would last me 3-6 weeks. Now I'm usually spending around $300-350 for the same. I recently went to really stock up on all those things like spices and sauces that last like forever and you're shocked when you find out you don't have it, so it was a bigger order, and I thought, "Hopefully this isn't more than $400." It ended up being over $500.
I'm a millennial and I just learn, from you Linus, that there is this thing called millennial pause.
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Yes
When (IF I EVER) send a whatsapp audio, I always notice that at the beginning there's like a second of flatness lol
I think it's just Tik Tok memes leaking out... I don't browsse it and only really recently I learned about it, and with 60s constraint you do need every second and somehow this is reason to joke about better paced videos?
I believe that categorizing people into groups is helpful when it's helpful and is unproductive when it's unproductive. If you start categorizing people too much you will end up with every single person in his or her individual category. If you reduce the number of categories too much you will end up with the whole human race in one group. So in short, dividing people into generational groups is and interesting thought exercise that could help us understand some differences between these generations, but it's not some ultimate truth.
Comparing groups of people is a useful tool for understanding some differences between people. The whole thing falls apart when you start using this approach as a propaganda tool to "prove" that one group is "better" than some other group. And that's unproductive at best and pure evil at worst.
i am gen z and i had no idea what a millennial pause was. Just sounds like new creators are using algo meta and not pausing to gain relevance that millennials already have. Personally, I millennial pause
Listening to a younger generation talk about a realization of getting older gives me a new and improved way to feel even older.
I saw a lot of live streams starting with a countdown animation and playing an intro to get the timing right. In OBS, you can broadcast a clip before switching over to camera, so if you monitor your end stream, it's an easy fix.
Or they just don't care and only monitor chat, and when people start to write in, they know that they are live and switch.
I don't record myself so I guess I can't do the "pause" but I always try to think before I speak. It's kind of shocking how thinking before you speak is such a rare thing today that it has to have its own word for the people that do it
I learned to do this pause from using walkie-talkies at work rather than recording anything. It used to be if you started speaking right away after pressing the transmit button, the first second or so what you said got cut off on the receiving end, so you pause for that second or so to make sure the receiver gets the whole message.
honestly, vtubers solved your problem of having that delay between when all platforms are live to start talking because they'll have a "starting soon" screen and music playing until the time they're actually ready to start, but they'll also sometimes unmute their microphones and kinda talk with those waiting in the chatroom for until they actually hit go time and then transition to their talking or gameplay scenes. I don't see that a lot even with facecam streamers. EDIT: *and* it should be noted they will do this even if they're only broadcasting to one platform. kinda to make sure everyone has seen the Go Live notifications and tweets or posts and taken their seats before starting up, so people don't miss out.
That might just be the channels you watch. I see that fairly often in non-vtuber streams.
Breaking Points does that
It's been solved in many spaces where there is a live feed available. It sounds to me like the WAN show just needs to make the procedure to start the wan show more efficient (ex production assistant here that worked with live stream systems for concerts and live shows that were streamed to the web). It sounds like they have a lot of content they pull from, but they need to have it pre-tested better. It's not like the environment changes a lot (I assume). In fact one could argue their environment is more simplified then what I had to deal with, because I had to make sure everything was synchronized.
13:40 is something I just recently realised myself as 1990 born. We are in a special position. If you're born between roughly 1985 and 1995 you saw both worlds at a really young age. The one world with cassettes and and wired phones and then shortly after or before you hit 20 years old the first iPhone was out. I was 17 when it happend and oh boy do I realise because of the previous years how technology changes the world. I sent 160 letters SMS from like age 11 to 18 before mobile messaging was a real thing.
I've noticed the same thing Luke has w.r.t. grocery increases versus restaurant increases. I don't eat out a ton except when traveling, but when I do, I tend to buy a lot of food on the relative low end-- not fast food, but think food truck, Mexican, Chinese, counter-serve, etc type places. I can still find good-size burritos for $9, or a packed kung pao chicken or Pad Thai plastic takeout container for $12, or a huge deli meal from a supermarket for $7. And I've found such offerings in basically every American city I've been to, even in San Diego and NYC.You'd think these lower-end prices would be most impacted cost-wise, but I guess they're somehow not.
I don't even know what in detail defines a millennial, gen z or boomer, nor do I care for labeling people.
The way they used "stone age, bronze age, iron age" is a good way. That should be used today for like the sub-age that defines recent generations.
This is really funny because for me I was literally trained to take that quarter second pause before speaking in school.
Working in an Apple computer factory in the mid 90’s people had loaded the dancing baby video onto nearly every computer on the assembly floor. 😂
To me it comes to two things, a that recordings before weren't near instant and it had good likelihood of getting cut out. And for general editing purposes (where the initial seconds can sample for background noise and allow for removing the background noise for crispier audio)
Nowadays audio from mobile phones are good enough to not need any post processing.
I'm an older Gen Z (1998) and make content for CZcams. I always have a 10 second pause after pressing record and when I actually start talking. I always make sure to edit out the pause to a reasonable length when I edit, and the pause makes it much easier to check everything is working before you even start. It's a very good thing for video production, so I wasn't aware that people didn't do that.
I was a IATSE stagehand before Covid. The work was exactly the same at Luke’s brother. It was stressful not knowing when or if I was ever going to work again. I did make more money than most people though, so it was very important to be good with your money so it would last between gigs.
I was at a conference and was told by some 'expert' said that millennials were people born between 80 and 2000. I've been told elsewhere that it's 83-93, 80-99, 86-96, etc.
I was born in 2000 but I live and grew up in WV. So until about whatever year the iPhone 5 came out, we were about 5-6 years behind most of the US in IT and the internet. Most would classify me as a Zoomer, I relate a lot more to how millennials grew up because that's how I grew up. I didn't have a smart phone until I was graduating High School.
The generation divide is extremely arbitrary.
I like the custom background except for the fact that it's imperfections are on full display. (can you swap a chunk or 2?(the one s behind Alex's microphone))
Use a holder page like "going live soon" once you see that on all platforms, then you have the Countdown and the fade into your next page, be it the intro or you guys doing a short talking thing before the actual prepared intro. It'll look pretty cool imo
Fun fact, the live broadcast used to be standard for cable news. The cameras would be rolling and transmitting to the TV station, then the station decides to broadcast the feed on their channel. This has some pretty funny and controversial consequences, as the feed is just analogue signal, anyone could tap into it with the right equipment. There's footage in ad breaks or before interviews start of politicians doing coke, getting pep talked, being shut out of debates (literally). It was the focus of a doc you can find here on youtube with a bit of searching, I forget the name, but you can find it with a couple of searches.
Commenting in case you, I, or someone else manages to find it. Perhaps you can search your watch/browser history.
@@deus_ex_machina_ The documentary is Spin (1995)
I'm technically Gen Z (born in 98) but I do the Millennial pause and even outside of that I often find myself having more in common with Millennials
Same 99
gen z seems divided between 2005 births, before is much more vista-win7 era kids and more accustomed to PC's and not really in the mobile phone era yet
Also, if you immediately start talking, some devices (such as Apple TV) need to sync the frame rate of the device to the frame rate of the video. This causes a 3-5 delay for EVERY CZcams video. If you take a breath before starting, that usually is enough to not need to rewind the video. If you start talking immediately in the video, then users of these devices have to rewind the video 3-5 seconds
since CZcams has no delay for video start during the frame rate negotiation
We record ourselves using a device we're intimately familiar with to such an extent that when I'm holding the record button, you instinctually know when the video is going to really start and especially with selfies on Snapchat, I have the self illumination on to get a better image, and I know exactly when the picture will be taken, so I don't stop moving to take a picture until the instant it's actually captured, like I press it and then frame myself or my friends a couple moments afterwards inorder to now be holding my phone up in a super awkward way, like it's probably a symptom of using social media at school and not wanting to be super obvious in class to be real
Man the last time I was this early was back in 2007
The impact of memes on society will never be accomplished again
My father's VHS camcorder we click REC and have to wait till timer hit 1 or 2 seconds for tracking and avoid the static at start. So was always told to wait as might miss a moment.
I do love how GenX is not even in the conversation. But as a GenX tiktoker I tend to just edit any pause out of the start to make things snappy. But then I'm also an editor.
No way bruh a 60 year old furry
Your math is a bit off. GenX is younger than 60 and I'm mid 50s. . My roommate is a furry and is 70s though he started the first furry convention in the 80s.
As someone who is probably a zoomer but whose childhood didn't have cell service (northern), I seem to remember having to use non-fiction books for projects early in elementary, and being annoyed at how they had hardly any information whatsoever compared to the internet
It's a professionalism difference (or at least the old meaning of professionalism - if that meaning is changing/has changed, fine haha). The pause allows for a clear edit/start point imo. If there's no editing being done and there is just this awkward silence before the person starts to speak, then yeah, I agree lol. But who doesn't trim their Snapchat/Instagram vids?
Look at what's becoming the norm in terms of "accepted grammar" in the workplace lol. People write emails/slack/discord messages like they're texting lmao.
Less posturing that way tho innit
@@vystorm yup, i graduated in 2013 and hated having to perfectly formalize shit that should take just a few words. But boomers are sensitive and need hand holding in conversation
@@Shanehudson27 It's sorta sad tho, do you think they are happy somehow? Having to mask so much in so many specific ways? Idk, it sounds so depressing to me 😟 like that's the sorta stuff we tryna get away from for all our mental health, so how must it be for them? the bitterness you see from so many of them when they see us not doing it too as well, idk it just makes me feel like they are sad and wish they could drop the act but feel like it would be too hard to be accepted by their people if they did, or maybe they feel like it's not worth trying to change? or idk, maybe they all just genuinely look at us and see immaturity because they've based everything on a set of particular practices,,, all I know is I wish I could help them have what we have, freedom to just be yourself even in a work environment, while being respectful to others of course but still
I don't edit my videos.
I am not a content creator, so that may be why, but I don't care how the video looks.
I am 18 years old and I don't use social media (although I do use discord, as a chatting platform and not a social media platform)
as a milenial, the pause is about old cameras took a second to start recording and we waited a second to confirm it was recording , other generations dont
Luke has the CORRECT TAKE at 27:30 -- if restaurants are more expensive these days, good on them for passing the costs onto the customer in a way that enables them to pay their staff a living wage. Eating out is *pure luxury* (as opposed not just to groceries but takeout which can be made more cost-effective with ghost kitchens) and should be priced sustainabily.
My biggest gripe with the "newer" generation is not the tech savvy ability, it is the lack of knowledge of how to do things manually should the digital world collapse. I am an IT technician at 56, so I love "tech" but I can still do manual work, know how to interact with people, and I don`t walk around with a phone in my hand.
Yeah and ai is going to make the next generation not even know how to form a paragraph or do research, hold a paintbrush, or even use photoshop
Already people don't even need to learn how to write with a pen, do math, sing, do basic book keeping.
What kind of weird bullshit scenario do you have in your head where digital equipment collapses but other tech will be fine? Any scenario where we don't have the electricity grid and energy distribution will have a lot of people dead regardless of their skill. We are literally dependent on high tech to sustain the large numbers of people on the planet.
@@seeibe there's this big giant ball of electromagnetic radiaton in the middle of our solar system that powers all life on the planet, it has a temper, and has, in the recorded past, flared up enough to wipe out almost all electronics on earth, just the last time it did it was before we were advanced enough to have electronics that fragile.
The thing is: When we were teens we started getting the first smartphones, and they didn't really start recording the moment you pressed the record button. Those were phones with weak CPUs, and they took 1-2 seconds to properly load the video recording code.
9:20: Not with vanilla OBS but with the Multistreaming OBS plugin, you can stream to many at the same time
As a content creator for long-form videos, where doing audio work is more common, I definitely pause as I start my video. In fact, I'll pause for 5-10 seconds to get a noise profile. Then, I'll cut it out in post.
This "millennial pause" could also be from people who are used to having a noise-profile pause.
I always think generational stuff is so silly. Within any specific age cohort, like Linus said, experiences vary wildly. I’m still of the opinion that the Boomers are the only “real” generation (in America at least). I’m an early zoomer, and I never really caught on to vine/musically/tiktok but I did grow up watching youtube so its kind of awkward when I have friends talking about tiktok trends and i just sort of have to catch on based on context clues. I have gotten in to youtube shorts which are 99% of the time tiktok reposts so i’m kinda starting to catch on to that kinda stuff.
Turn back now
Same. My brother is two years older than me and my cousin is ten years younger than me. Guess who of us are in the same generation?
Exactly: Me and my cousin! 🤦♂️
Yep, generations theory is bullshit for sure!
Greatly enjoyed the various political tapes, especially pertaining to economics. I know it's not what the show is, but it's nice to see real people see the pain so many of us go through daily, and to call it out. Even if you can't do anything, simply bringing it up gives me hope that enough conversation will happen among normal people, that we'll some day do something about it.
Oh my gosh, when you were talking about encyclopedias, and you brought up Encyclopedia Encarta!!! Such a blast from the past!
Linus says we grew up with far less reliable technology, but I definitely still have times when I hit record and it just doesn't start, or takes a minute for whatever reason. On a GoPro it's the absolute worst, I've missed so much footage because the recording just didn't start.
I could see editing the pause out for TikTok since people decide whether to swipe past a video or not really quickly, but I 100% agree that trying to actually record without it is just going to force you to do multiple takes because the start gets cut off half the time.
So the thing about the "millennial pause" is that when people would record videos on older phones, or use even the 1st apps that you could record with/on to (like CZcams, and even VERY EARLY SnapChat), there would be a delay between when you PRESSED the button, and when it ACTUALLY started recording, so people who are used to those older days will take a pause, make sure the video is actually recording so nothing gets left out, and then talk once they KNOW it's going....that doesn't happen with these newer phones/apps (mainly phone processing power) where the latency between a FINGER PRINT SCANNER (how long it takes to open my phone with my finger print) takes considerably less time to happen than swiping a page on my old Motorola Droid EVER DID doing ANYTHING, let alone start recording a 720p video (which that first Droid that I had had a 500Mhz processor...yeah...).
I don't think it's a case where ALL millennials do it because not everyone recorded back then since it was much rarer for a phone to have that and by the time these types of phones became cheaper, they were 10s to 100s of times better than those first horrible smart phones (I believe even Apple's iPhone sucked ass for latency between actions like opening apps or recording until the 3rd or 4th gen phone(s)) just like how not every Millennial (and older generation) will use the old hand signal for calling someone (using your thumb to your ear and pinky to your mouth) and not every GenZ and younger person does the new hand signal (flat hand to your ear).
Generalization is almost always bad/stupid to do.
But like, even now, not all smart devices are reliable to record immediately. Sometimes there's a lag before it starts. Sometimes you accidentally don't hit the button. Sometimes you think you're in video mode, but you're actually in photo mode. Why on Earth should we "trust" the camera is running without seeing it? Linus is right - why would we want to go through the hassle of speaking again in case it wasn't recording properly?
@@ryuuseiSoul Yeah, it makes sense why some millennials do it, it's not like it's the end of the world for having 1 second or 2 of silence making sure we don't have to repeat ourselves lol.
It's funny how they make fun of people for doing that, but the TikTok videos I've seen of those SAME PEOPLE/KIDS record like they have to speak 100 words per minute, move the camera around like they have Parkinson's...like every generation does something weird, it's not like we all point it out with their dumb speech "LETS GO FINNA BUSSIN WOKE SIMP" or whatever that makes them sound stupid and illiterate....Like why can't we be friends eh?
Wait, so I'm still a Millennial? Whoa, I never felt that way. If I think about that for a minute though, that's exactly how it feels. Because I can connect to so much stuff from Millennials, as well as some things from Gen Z. Probably more Millennial though, since I don't do much TikTok, and I'm just interested in much technological stuff, that people older than me knew much about and as a kid I asked them absolutely everything about it.
On the other hand: I am almost the oldest one in my current social group. So I guess, I am a millennial that has a Gen Z social environment. But: Those Gen Z, I find, also behave more like Millennials. We are studying computer science though, so perhaps that changes things.
It's weird because you, like myself, are on the tail end of the millennial. It still feels weird to me that I am in the same millennial bracket as someone who might have kids that are almost (or are) legal adults.
I'd like to say that being a computer nerd is not really the same as being a millennial.
Maybe the meaning for the word nerd has changed, I don't know, but I have noticed that nerds usually spend less time on social media like tiktok (if that can even be considered as social media) and more time doing tech stuff. (unless you are the comic nerd type)
Instead of saying "Gen Z" I say "normies", normies avoid nerdy talks and want the adrenaline that social media gives them.
Why you may ask?
That is because "Gen Z" refers to an age, but "normie" refers to a concept.
I am 18 years old but almost nothing about Gen Z is true for me.
Ive noticed recently that some videos start with the talking so soon that youtube actually skips the first word or two and i have to rewind
You can have multiple stream destinations from OBS. It isn't native to OBS but via a free plugin.
it's called "Multiple RTMP outputs plugin"
I'll also add that Millennials are job hoppers for a few reasons, even in non-gig career work, there is no loyalty from employers. You have to job hop to get ahead in your career because it's extremely rare to find companies that promote fairly from within, or companies that even give decent raises. Furthermore, many millennials are riddles with ADD and ADHD, we get bored easily and need to find new ways of keeping ourselves engaged while we grow in our careers.
Growing up I was always called Generation X (seems to be skipped over in these conversations), but there had been a millennial creep where they kept pushing back what years were considered millennial. I walked to school, got bulled with fists, was taught "sticks and stones", didn't have a cell phone growing up (some had beepers), my favorite music was grunge, and we didn't have a PC at home until high school. There was no Wikipedia or social media. I have no feeling of entitlement. We had a carbureted car! I was born in 1981, this was once Gen X but is now often considered Millennial in the media. That term didn't even exist when I was in school and I remember when it was invented. It was for those born 1982 and after and all the kids at playground were talking about what year they were born and what generation they fit in. Most in my class were born 1980-1981 at the time.
16:49 Pure Pwnage mentioned. For anyone not in the know, it was the first ever web series to have been created, and it was created before CZcams even existed. Eventually it got turned into a TV series in Canada.
TV series? Please tell more.
Any time I record a video (rarely), I know to create a lead time in the video because most devices have a long delay that allocates the file space for the recording. Typically, cheaper cameras would say they were recording but weren't actually recording until a few seconds after the recording starts.
18:49 Luke, for the love of god, either move that water bottle or don't wear a shirt that has text ending in OCK
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The Millennial Pause _actually_ exists because it's polite to give the viewer a second to start paying attention before bombarding them with content.
Also, if I've learned anything from Boomers, it's that GenZ, being younger than me, ruins everything they touch and have destroyed everything I've worked so hard for, and I hate them because of it. Or something like that. And pull up your pants!
9:16 you actually can stream to multiple endpoints on OBS using the "Multiple RTMP Outputs Plugin" for OBS, probably not reliable enough for WAN though.
I always pause when I answer the phone, since every smartphone I've ever had, to this day, seems to lock up slightly when the ringing ends. I didn't have that habit on landlines, where that beep was unambiguous and there wasn't a screen getting caught off guard by it's own most basic function.
zoomers are not helping society
Sadly my cameras record video before they record audio. They lose a few frames. Idk who thought that was a good idea.
I do this and its due to using a hi-8 cassette recorder when i was a kid, it took half a second for the thing to start recording.
As an older Gen Z but definitely not Millennial, this actually made me go back through my camera roll and check because I wasn't sure if I did the pause or not, and low and behold I start talking *immediately* in every video. I don't consciously make an effort to do it or anything, it just happens.
It only takes a second to wait for the thing to definitely be recording, and then a second to clip it out in post.
It probably takes at least 2-10seconds to rerecord, even worse if you only notice that the start got cut off when playing back after speaking for 2+mins.
with the wan show intro thing, the solution to this problem is starting the show with a splash screen, waiting until you know it's up, then transitioning out of the splash screen in the broadcast software
Gen X'er - I pause due to the lag of the various devices, analog and digital, have in starting the compression, or synching. When speech is clipped it can lose meaning. Kind of a throwback to 2-way radios and computers with spinny drives paired to single and dual threaded procs. I'm sure a modern flagship phone doesn't need the pause (I know semi modern PCs running OBS don't), but I still think it's better to have that slight pause personally.
OBS; you can utilize FFMpeg to send to a second stream; it's just not handy. The LTT crew can definitely do it, but not really worth the effort since there are already services that do it better.
Late here but yeah I get the trust thing!! It's like old-school filmmakers that do the "One more shot for safety" thing in the era of digital cameras because sometimes the tape would fail and you didn't know until it developed.
Haven't thought to test with video, and I imagine it varies with the app -- but since the last big update or so, Voice Memos on my iPhone XS will take a few seconds to start recording -- if it even does when I press it. It's an app I use all the time and I marvel that it doesn't work the way it should, yet it's also something I'm practically trained to be accustomed to.
I remember all that from my schools too. Only time I saw the internet and learned html v 4.0 just came out and Netscape navigator, was grade 7 and 8 (middle school) and highschool in 1998-2002 the internet could start to be used to research, but I had to check out the rows of encyclopedias... And computers in the library you would check out games like origon trail at the front desk to get a floppy. And in computers, in middle school, played the hell out of SimCity 2000.
I think part of it is also gen Z humor. Talking while the video starts gives it just a little more of a chaotic feeling. Even when it's not talking, it's a lot more high energy if whatever the video is about is already happening right when you press play. It's kinda like the perfectly cut meme, but at the beginning.
might be a residue of camcorder "faders" remember those?... or maybe just that it took some time for analogue media to actually spin the tape and start recording...