TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on THE NEMESIS
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- Hot on the heels of its long-awaited released in toy form in the "Legacy" line this summer, we're finally taking a look at the Decepticon space cruiser that serves as the evil counterpart to the Autobot's iconic Ark: THE NEMESIS!
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It never consciously clicked with me until now that the Decepticons’ underwater base in G1 wasn’t the same Nemesis they crashed with. I haven’t watched through the show since Elementary School so I’ve remembered the two ships as being the same this entire time.
Honestly, it's a really common misconception! It just feels like it *should* be that way, especially with how the Nemesis has been handled since BW. I think it's the interesting little core of this video's story!
Even after watching Beast Wars I thought that. Wasn't until the Transformers Wiki mentioned Microbots that I found out it wasn't. The ship in Microbots bearing zero resemblance to the Nemesis while the base looks somewhat like it doesn't help avoid the confusion.
Yeah i had the same misconception too
I thought the same thing
I absolutely thought the same thing!
Nemesis: Megatron never told you what happened to your mother
Tarn: He told me you killed her!
Nemesis: No... I am you mother...
Tarn: “…nuh uh.”
Nemesis: *_”THE FUCK YOU MEAN ‘NUH UH’?!”_*
@@goingblarghSMG4 reference
So I wonder what is like inside there
Trypticon explicitly being mentioned in Transformers Prime would have been amazing. Imagine an entire episode dedicated to the Nemesis transforming back into Godzilla mode.
I mean dark energon did "reawaken" trypticon in the episode after Optimus prime got the Star Sabre. But it wouldve been amazing to see trypitcon suddenly transform from the nemesis, if his forme wasnt permanent.
@@_Highxwayyea, I was hoping they name drop trypticon when that happened
@@_Highxwayi never know the nemesis was trypticon in prime until now
@@megamind2.050The only reason we know this is because Prime is connected to The War for Cybertron games so you would only know this if you played Fall of Cybertron.
Yes! I would've loved if THAT was the plot of Flying Mind.
Jesus why is the Beast Wars 2nd Nemesis so terrifying. A gigantic spiky rock sausage with that single huge ambivalent eye is some lovecraftian stuff right there
Takara in the 90's were on something, over half the Brave Series villains evoked that kind of imagery in some form and they all were insanely terrifying especially Genocide
Can we just talk about the fact that beast wars established so many parts of transformers lore that stuck around?
Sparks, protoforms, the nemesis, the maximals/Predacons, I would argue beast wars would be able to take the title of the most influential transformers show in terms of it’s contributions to the franchise as a whole, maybe aside from G1 itself
It ran for 5 seasons, if you count BM. It's a lot to ignore.
@Nix91 That's a big generalization. I love G1 but I also love Beastwars and most people I know are the same.
Even the Marvel comics did something that may have impacted the entire franchise: Creating Primus.
BW brought the entire franchise back. Long live Rubber Duckies and "Oh Yesssss"
I bought the Ark but Nemesis I didn't. Why? The Ark is solid and effort put in. The Nemesis, Long legs and plain purple. Anyone know if ToyHax maybe made her better?
In hindsight, I am surprised that a lot of key elements in the lore and worldbuilding of Transformers were established in BW
I wonder how the Nemesis robot mode will be incorporated into future Transformers stories alongside the Ark
In my AU, she was created by studying stolen blueprints of The Ark and she's, like, very simple minded, for lack of a better term. As in she has a spark, but she needs to be given commands to do anything. My Soundwave has telepathy (or is possibly a city speaker like Windblade but i haven't settled on that yet) and he can easily control/give commands to Nemesis in her robot mode.
I hope it isn't, unless as Trypticon again
@@tracytron7162 na trypticon is his own bot
I thought the Ark having its own bot mode was equally as stupid. Leave them alone as ships. Simple enough
@@TheAutisticOwlI see, you gonna tie in the whole "Tripticon is the Nemesis" thing from Prime?
Man, them using the Nemesis as the final threat of Beast Wars is so perfect. There were 4 million years that it wasn't seen and using it is almost such a perfectly full circle way to wrap up the generation 1 story.
It's amazing how "Beast Wars" elevated the threat of what began as a seemingly standard ship, and inspired future series to continue using that name and status. The fact that it has its own robot mode is also pretty cool and I like how the helmet resembles the Decepticon logo.
I love the Nemesis as much as the next guy but it’s popularity means the Victory is all but forgotten despite the fact that it did so much more in the original cartoon
The ship becoming an eye for Unicron is so freaky yet so on point for this Franchise I love jt
If anyone remembers in the Transformers Fall of Cybertron game, Trypticon was transfigured into the Nemesis, but later in Transformers Prime, Megatron and the rest of the Cons seemingly completely forgot that he was the ship after he was brought back online by Dark Energon.
Maybe they just agreed not to acknowledge locking Trypticon into the Cybertronian equivalent of a medically-induced coma
@@vinniehatcher664or maybe because Tranformers Prime and the High Noon games were meant to be completely seperate continuities?
@@VictorIV0310 No, they were meant to be in the same continuity, but the Prime writers refused to play ball with everyone else.
High Moon actually altered things in FoC to be more closely tied to Prime. They gave Cliff a new head, based on his Prime design, and did the same with Megatron in his rebuilt body. They also showed Shockwave getting his left arm torn off, leading to it being replaced with the cannon he has in Prime, and Optimus' Path Blaster is basically an upscaled version of his Prime arm blasters. They used the Prime warship as direct inspiration for Trypticon's spacecraft mode.
Meanwhile the writers on Prime actively tried to break continuity with the games as much as possible, despite the fact that they were meant to be part of the same continuity.
Ngl I’d do the same lol
This was a retcon. One of many that the aligned continuity would very rarely address. The transfomers universe between TFprime, the high moon games, and so on were never actually made with the intent of linking with eachother. Thats just the decission that hasbro made afterwards in an effort to conjoin and streamline transformers brands back then.
"Yes......" "Impressive." "Oh, it is far more than that, my malevolent minion. That is the most powerful Decepticon warship Transformer history. The ship that shot down the Arc itself! The Nemesis! The Nemesis......" - BW Megatron.
I have always wanted a Basics video on the Nemesis so badly.
Would like to add that Energon Sharkticon's alt mode had some designs from Nemesis though it's ironic that Takara choose to use Energon Sharkticon mold to make transforming Axolan in TransFormers United toyline.
But yeah, Decepticon Nemesis is legendary ship that has get official toy.
Only a ship like the Nemesis can be worthy enough to be piloted by Megatron!
¿Igual que Megatron (guerra de bestias)?
@ortizdanielmodelo2021 transformers prime megatron not the name taker fake but still realy good character megatron of the beast wars
Nice Beast Wars reference
@@Karlos1234ify tfp is better
@@Karlos1234ify 4:15 Nice Star wars reference!
Think you'll ever do specific humans like Marissa Faireborn, the whole Witwicky family/the use of the Witwicky name as a whole and maybe even the nefarious Dr Arkeville?
If they make a GI Joe movie that crosses with Transformers, they might include Faireborn. That's when we'll get the Basics
Lets all take a moment to appreciate Chris's new channel logo, just the amount of character in it just exudes Transformers
Also great video keep them coming!
I know that it doesn't technically count as a toy of the Nemesis, but Energon Sharkticon's alternate mode was meant to resemble the Nemesis
Close - it was the Maximal Axalon ship.
and even got repainted as such!@@Jazzer995
@@Jazzer995From the wiki:
"Sharkticon's alternate mode was meant to resemble the Generation 1 Decepticon starship Nemesis. Aaron Archer, at one BotCon panel, even admitted that he still thought of the character as "Nemesis", and had trouble recalling the released toy's final name."
He was redecoed into Axalon in Transformers United, but still looked like the Nemesis.
What’s also interesting is that in the War for Cybertron game, the decepticon’s had a ship that looked very much like the G1 nemesis. I think you only see it for a few scenes before it blows up, but I thought it was a nice homage. Maybe they would have addressed that ship as “The Victory”.
If only they had the budget we would have seen the nemesis transform back to Trypticon in Prime but we all know they blew their budget on the Unicron clones
This is just so funny to me. I like to imagine the Nemesis in the Legacy line was actually Trypticon at one point. But while stuck in stasis for so long and used as a ship, he decided to become a woman to psych Megatron out.
Putting the trans in transformers
As impressive as the Nemesis is as a flagship, its a shame it isn't the head of a fleet. Now, we have enough Deceptijets to float our own Air Force but a Dark Fleet or some dropships wouldn't be refused.
Unfortunately most versions of the Decepticons dont really have the resources to have an armada on account of them being on the verge of extinction in most media.
the only time I can think of where the Decepticons have a proper Armada is in Transformers IDW, in the IDW Comics the Nemesis is one of many ships classified as Worldburners, it's definitely not leading Armada's but it is used by Gi Joe as a base after it crashes.
last time any sign of an armada was seen on tv media (unless Cyberverse and beyond had some) was Armada and Energon where the war was still ongoing in Armada and joined with the Autobots to face Unicron while in Energon the same ships are seen lifting off to join Megatron (decepticon criminals who either were already criminals or couldn't get with being at peace with the autobots) but stopped by the planetary defense grid
My headcanon is that the Ark and Nemesis are 2 of several Ark ships used to leave Cybertron with them being called Ark: Exodus and Ark: Nemesis. Omega Supreme and Trypticon are also Ark ships with Omega as Ark: Genesis and Trypticon as Ark: Antithesis. All of them were built in Cybertron's Golden Era as part of an Armada known as the Ark Fleet.
I love the Ark being Omega Supreme and the Nemisis being Trypticon, one of my favorite things ngl
I just assumed that the Nemesis and the Victory were the same ship, partly because I rarely re-watched the initial multi-part pilot, finding it less interesting that what came later.
Here's a theory. If Trypticon continued searching the Earth for Iacon Relics, do you think it would ever cross his mind that infusing larger doses of Dark Energon into his systems might give him enough energy to fully repair his body & regain the ability of transformation? He'll probably need a new T-Cog since his old one got destroyed back in the War for Cybertron video game (or he may not need one if the Dark Energon infusion takes care of that problem for him).
Well, that assumes that the Dark Energon-induced personality the ship exhibits is Trypticon's consciousness. When I interviewed the writer of the episode many years ago for a podcast, he said that he was aware of the ship's Trypticon backstory when writing it, but that he didn't think of the personality the ship displayed as being "Trypticon reawakened." So if we think of it as a new personality born of Dark Energon, would it even *want* to transform?
I wonder if the Dark Energon-induced personality would even know it could transform. I think that once it finds out that it can transform, I can see 2 possibilities.
[1]. The transformation would be saved & used as a last resort if any & all plans to retrieve Iacon Relics failed. *(Come to think of it, what was the Warship's plans after finishing "Priority 1 - Decode Iacon Database & Retrieve All Relics of Decepticon Origins"? My only guess would be to take all the weapons to Cybertron and use them to attack & destroy Cybertron's Core aka Primus. Since the Warship's powered by Dark Energon, it probably takes orders from Unicron himself).*
[2]. Testing to see if the transformation fully works or not, in which I can guess would use up a chunk of it's Energon supplies transforming back & forth from GIANT KAIJU MECHA to Decepticon Warship over and over again.
I've always thought it smelled severely of a dropped subplot. The episode goes out of its way to include dialogue from characters expressing surprise at the ship having weapons they didn't know it had; when Ratchet asks it WHY it's collecting the relics, there's a moment of tense silence before it hangs up on him without giving an answer; it really seemed like there was a story planned that didn't get told there about the ship, and why it had this gear and this objective nobody knew about.
@@ChrisMcFeely One reason assuming there wasn't already a way to, actually taking the relics since I don't think the ship had any way to actually grab anything so unless Dark Energon could reconfigure the hull to form arms of some kind the ship may need to transform to actually get the relics
It's a shame. Would love to have seen the Nemesis transform, especially if it meant seeing Trypticon again
For a minute I thought you were saying that the "Nemesis" name originated from Shooter's outline, which would have been a REAL deep cut.
I love how Beast Wars brought more lore to the Transformers series all across the board
It's kinda funny how both the Ark and the Nemesis are known for crashing. The Ark is always in mountains and the Nemesis is usually in the seas.
Fun Fact Transformers Prime in the Art Book showed us the Bot form of Nemesis and was about to be incorporated in the episode only to be scrapped
And it's real name is Trypticon
We already know this
@@tartatovsky Not many do you know?
I don't remember this, unless you're not referring to 'The Art of Transformers: Prime'.
@@thesadistor-hl7lw I am fine thank you
@@thesadistor-hl7lw Go on
Though the Titan nemesis was a skip for me ( I need somewhere to put her ) it’s a interesting figure and I do hope she will be given roles in future transformers projects
This is the first video I have seen in 1 minute from being released
Imagine if the Titan Nemesis’ head was based on the Beast Wars II one as a little Easter egg…terrifying!
Just a single, disturbingly well-detailed eye that just keeps staring at you whenever you walk in the room
It'd be cool if you could take off the Decepticon symbol mask to reveal the eye underneath.
@@ltb1345unfortunately, you can't. Tho that would be very sad to see becuz they committed empurata on a *titan*. Oof
@@gabrielchee8470 That's the fucked up part.
The implication would be that she was just FORMED that way and covers it up because the implications would be too much for the average cybertronian to handle.
oooh, I didn't know about the giant freaky eyeball nemisis. Always learning something new here!
Starting to realize that Beast Wars has been the starting point of a lot of Transformer lore.
It's incredible how the Nemesis went from being a one time starship that crashed and was left to be forgotten, to being the most iconic Decepticon space vessel that creates such a massive threat to the Autobots, it now transforms into a robot mode.
I decided to name the Legacy Nemesis's robot mode: "Nemesis Maxima" due to the Ark's robot mode being based on Autonomous Maximus (a.k.a. The Last Autobot). These names mean "The greatest nemesis" and "the greatest morals" respectively.
Behold the nemesis the nemesis
Crazy how it was Beast Wars that set a lot of the Standards Transformers still follows to this day.
With the rise of the Nemesis to prominence in the fandom and franchise, the Victory has ironically fallen into obscurity itself despite how heavily it featured. Such is the way of things, but who knows? Perhaps one day, the Victory will achieve the recognition it deserves.
My favorite incarnation of the Nemesis was definitely in the WFC Trilogy, where it played a definitive role in the plot, looked good, looked menacing, and was absolutely enormous with a design that wasn’t too edgy unlike the Animated, Prime, Bayverse, and comic ones.
It took decades for the Decepticon ship to be given a proper transformable figure
I would have added "Project Nemesis" from Transformers Earthrise. Megatrons plan to create a starship Ark, but fueled by the sparks of thousands of cybertronians.
As a small anecdote, while Shockwave stayed behind on the Nemesis during in the comics. the the G1 cartoon, it was the Insecticons that were left behind, though when the Nemesis went down they ejected in an escape craft before it crashed
It is my personal opinion. But I prefer idea from Animated that Omega Supreme is the Arc, alongside Fall of Cyberton idea that Trypticon is the Nemesis. It simply make sense, alongside explaining early introduction.
Got my Nemesis toy a few weeks ago. Love it
Personally after finding out that the corpse of tripticon was used to build the nemesis I personally believe that when Megatron adds dark energon to the fuel system tripticon pseudo wakes up and has a bit of an axe to grind with Megatron for what he did
The Beast Wars version is probably my favorite version of the ship. Sleeker, more angular, and less fat than the G1 version.
With both the Arc and Nemesis getting giant ship transformers, all the love Hasbro is giving to the Junkions, and the fact that the spiral ship from the '86 movie is visible on the poster, I hope that means were getting a Junkion ship figure. Or alternatively their own ship the Minnow from the cartoon.
Actually the spiral ship from the movie belonged to the Quintessons.
@@PepsiGolem thanks, wiki was lacking info on that ship when I looked for a name.
“Now, the Decepticons’ Nemesis isn’t the *only* Nemesis in Transformers history”
When that eye is on my screen that feels like a threat
I want to get Nemesis for my Ark but damn the price for Nemesis is just stupid. Ark was like 60% cheaper and it came out during the pandemic and honestly did more and had more stuff.
This lore is fantastic. I was surprised when the Nemesis was going to be a Legacy, but to find out it has a female robot mode? Wow! I'm blown away!
In an ongoing roleplay I'm doing, the new generations of Autobots and Decepticons have new ships, the Prime and the Cerberus respectively, but in my head, they are just like the Ark and the Nemesis in spirit.
Also, to Chris, I just noticed you switched to that robotic face given to you in the Combaticons special. It suits you!
Could you do the basics on the Technobots?
I'm surprised it took this long to talk about the nemesis.
Mr. McFeely! So humbled that you dug my artwork! Hope it brings you and your fans much joy in years to come! Drive on, sir! 😊
Please do a basics on tarantulas. He is my favorite beast wars character.
7:22 I love the how the inclusion of the Nemesis toy implies that the Ark just decked a giant woman in her core, those fists were built for everyone lol
This is a video I needed for years. Finally we got it. Thank you.
5:16 I appreciate the video skipping over the various other Nemesi that serve roughly the same functions in their stories, in favor of focusing on the inflection points of how the concept has evolved in the overall franchise through time. That’s the stuff I come to this channel for 👍👍
I like 👍 the video my favourite version of the Nemesis is the one with a robot 🤖 mode
We need a G1 show featuring a clash between the Ark and the Nemesis in their robot forms.
And what was the name of the ship that Unicron gave Galvatron in The Transformers: The Movie? It sort of resembled the other two Decepticon ships seen earlier.
It was retroactively named the "Revenge."
The trpticon being the nemesis idea was cool
I really felt that the Decepticon starship became the character I liked in the UK comic - when Galvatron blew it up in Target: 2006.
I just want to see Trypticon and the Nemesis hanging out in robot modes, now.
Lady nemesis finally got her figure and it's awesome hopefully we see her in future shows
NGL at first I thought Tarn was gonna be the Nemesis because of the legacy evolution poster
It’s really cool that they gave included the Ark and Nemesis into the toy line. The price is a huge investment though. I wonder if any 3rd party is going to come out with smaller ones.
Nemesis throughout the years:
G1 cartoon- I'm just a ship/ base.
Fall of Cybertron- I'm Trypticon!
TF Prime- I'm a rouge ship! 😠
Current- I'm a giant sexy fem bot from beyond the moon!❤
Megatron: I'm in love!! 💘
Glad to see the Nemesis. Hoping he can finish up the rest of the original '84 crew.
Always thought the Revenge was the best designed G1 Decepticon spaceship. But the Beast Wars redesign certainly made the Nemesis look a lot better.
4:12:Admiral Piett:"Intensify foward fire power!"
A-Wing pilot:"AHHHHHH!!!"
Imperial Officer:"Too late!!!!"
I will say, im a bit disappointed that the Animated version only got a passing glance, with how many times its wreck became relevant again and again throughout the show.
Like the time Starscream used the stolen ptotoforms aboard the ship to clone a squadron of himself for the season 2 finale, or how Megatron used the ships wreck as spare parts for His Omega Supreme Clones in Season 3.
Not to mention its the first on Screen appearance after Beast Wars, which Made it its First appearance in almost 10 years.
Nemesis: remsembles Decepticons and The arc: Autobots ❤
I really like the nemesis and also I like titan class toys and read about the nemesis because it a flagship ❤
I Love Transformers the Nemesis, she's my fav, so her ship form❤ Trypticon and other titans
That zombie that chases you in resident evil 3.
"Trypticon, if you can hear me, know this is not a rescue operation."
Megatron, ladies and gentlemen.
Tripticon being the Nemesis was the coolest idea. I prefer it that way. I get why they went with this female robot for Legacy, they wanted the Nemesis from G1 and that design meant they couldn’t make it Tripticon. Good thing Planet X Apocalypse exists.
I’m also still holding out hope for an Ark retool to make Animated Omega Supreme.
9:09 he really looking at them like “ayo wtf my food moving????” And “DISCUSTANG” in one
One things that is important about the aligned continuity is that the classic nemesis appears in "war for cybertron".
In the first mission, the decepticons use a ship that is very similar to the one seen in g1 to attack and board a space station.
Nemesis, under dark-energon influence : "do not tamper with my system, this will be your only warning!"
Megatron : "warning?!"
Nemesis : "my missions assumes priority. Any Cybertronian lifeform who intervenes with my mission will be neutralized!"
Megatron : "my own vessel dare to address me in threathening tones?!"
I love that episode and it was interesting to hear what happened to Trypticon back in WfC/FoC
Transformers Nemesis is the best Transformers and She and Trypticon as Nemesis are my favorite ❤❤❤Please make the new basics on Trypticon or Basics on Powerglide
6:01 An image of Trypticon appears on one of the screens of the Nemesis in "Flying mind". Does this count as mentioning?
Ship salesman: Yessir...shes' a mighty vessel! Yep, she's a beaut!❤ Oh yeah...she can travel countless galaxies far beyond the...
Megatron: Don't Talk about Nemesis that way!!! She's not a car!!!
My list for obscure characters month in December
1st: Apelinq
2nd: Twincast
3rd: Firestar/Flare-up/Novastar
4th: Magmatron
Of these I only think apelinq and twincast are likely.
Some other more likely candidates would be devcon, crankcase and needlenose are more likely due to those guys getting legacy toys.
Well the "ARK" and "NEMESIS" will become a 3rd pair of TITAN rivalry after "METROPLEX/TRYPTICON" and "FORTRESS MAX/SCORPONOK"
This is the quickest I've ever watched a video aftwr its coming out.
Please do Sunstreaker or Metroplex next!
Would love to see a Basics on Overhaul/Leobreaker if there’s enough info to make it worthwhile
I think he'll be part of the Basics of Trailbreaker, since he's too tied to Cybertron to warrant an Obscure Character video. And as a bit of trivia: Overhaul was supposed to be named Trailbreaker (and even had a different head based on G1 Trailbreaker), but Hasbro couldn't secure the trademark at the time.
"That is the most powerful Decepticon Warship in Transformer history. The ship that down the Ark itself, the Nemesis! The Nemesis.."
- Beast Wars Megatron.
Taking in consideration the average size of a cybertronian, what really amazes me is the size those ships. Just the deck of command must be enormous!
I wonder if we will ever get transforming versions of the Axalon & the Darksyde now
if they run out of titans to make. right now they could make Supreme Starscream from cybertron, Menasor from Cybertron, Quickmix from Cybertron, Unicron from Armada/energon, Primus from Cybertron, Omega Supreme from Animated. some options are less interesting than others or lesser importance but they are literal giants in their respective shows
I like the ship that unicron created for Galvatron
Holy crap I wanna see Nemesis become Unicrons busted eye on screen so badly
Love it! Thank you for all these awesome videos!
You should do a basics video on controversial moments in Transformers history.
This is Excellent my friends. The Fans of Transformers know that the Nemesis Space Vessel is really Trypticon in that Form but this New Character/Idea es really Cool too. Thanks.
"So tell me, Megatron: Am I... thicc? With two c's?"
"Yeh"
Perhaps if the Legacy Cartoon hadn´t been cancelled, perhaps we will see the Nemesis transforming in robot mode and fighting the Autobot Ark
while I haven't watched the netflix trilogy probably would be repairing the Nemesis using some mystical ancient artifact to become a transformer... with the multiverse thing maybe the Animated version of the Allspark could do it since Animated Prowl was in the line
Do THE BASICS on FIGURE POSABILITY next!
Ive been a TFP fan ever since i was a little lad, I never knew that the con's ship in TFP was the nemesis 😅
It's named exactly once onscreen, for whatever reason they just call it "the warship" the rest of the time!
@@ChrisMcFeelythat’s weird
There are 2 versions of the Power of the Primes history, and both fail are being about the power of the Primes.
Great retrospective as usual!
I really like the concept of Ark and Nemesis being transformers themselves(that concept seemed cool to me ever since I first saw Omega Supreme transforming in Animated). I imagine them both being ‘asleep’ for the majority of time, and then ‘awake’ in the final battle between the two factions. Or maybe not really ’final’. Another idea that I had is for a story’s finale be Autobots and Decepticons joining forces against Unciron to save Cybertron, with both Ark and Nemesis(and other titans) also fighting alongside their comrades, and then after the war is finally over, they would either live peacefully on Cybertron or be hailed as heroes for sacrificing their lives during the battle with Unicron