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We originally thought leather would be a great solution with our young kids but we quickly learned if was not practical in the tropics. First, it is uncomfortable because it sticks to hot, sweaty skin. But worse, leather is extremely prone to mold and fungus which are impossible to fully get out of the leather. Our whole family had skin issues so within 2 years we had to replace what was a very expensive sofa. Also, ditto to the comments on copper. Not only does it turn green but also gets a funky smell due to the salt water. Good luck.
I was going to add a similar comment. I am on land, not sailing, but in an Adelaide summer I my skin sticks to our leather lounge.
Same here. Ixnay on the Leather and copper.
Another, Nice honest reply.
The white is so much brighter! Makes the space feel bigger for sure and make the copper pieces really pop
Can’t wait to see more about the design 😊
I’m with you on the white, although I think I’d prefer more of a sand/crème colour. Riley loves the blue.. I’m not 100% sold just yet 😅
@@SailingLaVagabonde Sand/cream = ecru. That is what I was thinking. She is going to be so gorgeous.
@@SailingLaVagabonde Yes! sand or creme
That settles it Riley gets the white one and Elayna gets the sand/creme color. Now, one for Lenny and one for Darwin.Elayna how do you get that accent mark above the e on creme?
@@frankm5019 if you use a device (rather than a PC or laptop) usually holding down the "e" or any other letter will let you choose accents... ëèéêēėę
Hi ! I'm an both an architect and naval architect (from France) . Kitchen cabinet in white is way less a struggle than a dark color, where you can see every water stain ... I have so many recommandations, but you're in great hands ! LOVE
The blue will date itself quickly, white, Neutral is timeless
Light grey
Depends on the material. You have nano laminates in dark blue from Fenix/aeropostal which are great against fingerprints . Darks hide dark dirt to some degree where whites show it more. I would defiantly get some samples and test it and touch it to see what can function in your boat.
And, yet another, Nice honest reply.
@@Foxor83 Nice idea.
How exciting, the boat is fantastic! This is coming from a wife of an Architect who likes to experiment with using materials in unconventional applications and we also own a boat. I would hate to see you choose materials that just don't perform on the water, heat & humidity. Such a pain to upkeep, fix and replace when you have to dry dock just to do it. I would definitely consult with an interior designer that has experience and a track record with boats. They make the marine grade fabrics and leathers for a reason, the copper is going to change colors and be a pain to clean, and the wood counters need redoing fairly often. Think longevity to keep you out of dry dock as much as possible and keep cost down in the long run. Be careful with dark colors as well, they can really make it the space seem small and dark, maybe just use them as accents instead.
I do hope everything will work out and that they get excellent expertise advise
I would pick the white over the blue cabinets, it makes the space look bigger. Also, having had leather sofas in our Perth climate, have to question why you'd want them in a boat in the tropics. Sweaty and hot, they crack very quickly in the Perth heat and humidity, I reckon you'd have mould to deal with at sea with the leather too.......perhaps not ideal? As soon as summer arrived we were always covering the leather with sheets and blankets, otherwise you stick to it, which kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion. We've now switched to fabric sofas and will never go back to leather.
I agree. There has GOT to be a good vegan faux-leather out there that will handle the weather better than real leather!
Totally read that with a Perth accent in me head....lol.....
Super high quality leather with the right finish can be quite nice in those conditions. 102°F and still mine is cool to the touch.
Aside from hot weather, my leather couch sucks in cold weather when you've got any exposed skin...brrrr!
I grew up in Sydney, so more humid than Perth, and we always had high quality leather couches. They were so nice and cool to sit on. It is about choosing the right kind of leather. So I would suggest a hand-me-down is not the way to go.
De interior cabinets in black that would make it better for the interior vibe. I personally think but who am I 🤣. Black and copper is insain modern.
One thing I will say as someone who worked as a housekeeper for a number of years....copper sinks and backsplashes are the bane of my existence!
Can't say I love the idea of copper, cork, and leather in a salt water environment. Cork is slippery when wet and does require maintenance. It could be an issue later. Leather will mold, its sticky as heck cracks and can be cold too depending where you are. Copper will also be a hot mess in salt water not to mention sharp corners with the kids. Blue on cabinets is cute, but will it last over time? I would go white. Counters will be beautiful as long as the weight is taken into account. Sleeping in the side hulls, yikes those are coffins! Not a chance would I ask anyone to sleep in those! Neat to see the process.
I agree with you Denise. The interior and colors will eventually cause nightmares. Some morning they'll be filming Riley tearing off Elana from their Leather couch.
cork being slippery when wet is nonsence.....
Hey Riley & Elayna, (Big Fan of the channel) I'm a bathroom/kitchen/laundry focused Interior Designer located in on the coast in West Aus so I deal with relatively salty air in my day to day jobs.
From an aesthetic standpoint the copper will not be a bright pop of colour for long, unless lacquered, and even then i'd be worried about its longevity. Copper at sea will go a very dark, dirty grey/blue so be aware of that - tapware etc should be stainless steel, running anything coloured will not survive in that enviroment I think. Don't do anything matte for those cabinet fronts, despite it looking really good, gloss will stand up to the enviroment & kids *much* better! Be aware a wood top will 100% change quite drastically and be at risk of swelling so what you pick wont look like that 3 months on at sea, so be aware, and also be ready to resurface/refinish fairly regularly.
The bench tops won’t be solid wood, they will be veneers over foam core
Wow. It's really apparent thanks to your comment pointing out 4 serious design flaws that this interior person is completely inexperienced and not competent as per designing the comforts inside a boat... That's egregious...
I’m 100% on the side of the white cabinets! So fresh & makes the space look bigger. We got so much mould on our leather couch here in Sydney that we had to get rid of it. We’ll never do leather in a humid or wet climate again. And it takes quite a bit to look after it. Fabric with removable covers has been so much easier! But then I’m lazy when it comes to furniture & the kids coming back wet from the beach!
I love the white also
Couldn't agree more that leather does not fair well in the tropics (specifically the Pacific!). mold mold and more mold...
this looks amazing. You have obviously dedicated many hours to the design. While the idea of leather sofas is a great look we did the same , however we had major problems when we did it. we would stick to it in hot weather, on one occasion I left a layer of my thigh on a seat. The other issue was the leather, although treated & cared for on a regular basis, the hotter climate/ moisture made them mouldy. Eventually had to remove it all. This is just our experience of it. I think what you are planning looks great & moves away from that shiny white look. It is after all your home. And what a speedy one it will be at that. Cant wait to see more of the build & fit out.
Take care Vagabond Family, you make my week.
I know that feeling of having a layer of thigh left of the seat 🤣🤣 I feel you either love or hate leather. Riley’s all for it. I’m also happy with leather as long as I have a nice thin rug to sit on.
The idea of the mould worries me though! Let’s see what we end up with 😅
Thanks for your comment Jack
- Elay 🫶
Is this the Jack Black I’m thinking of?
We live near the beach (im from the Philippines) and all our things that have leather ( bag,shoes ect) get mouldy and start to weirdly peel. We think its maybe the salty air and moist around us specially on rainy season here after 2 days you can see mould growing.
@@SailingLaVagabonde There's got to be a synthetic fabric that can capture the same look, yet is durable and cool for boating life. Have you looked into other options that can offer the same look without the downside?
Although you don’t want the standard boat interior look, I think there is much to be learned from standard boat interiors from years of trial and error. The look can be tweaked while still benefiting from the lessons learned. I wonder if Caroline has done boat interiors before?
Good point, boat interiors are a LOT different than land ones.
Was wondering the same thing - a really talented interior designer no doubt - could this be her first ocean-going vessel kit out?
Yeah good point! I donno these guys, it seems like they have boating experience though, so why are they trusting a graphics designer who's in the midst of transitioning into interior? Let alone nautical?
I see the walnut wood, which has an 'appearance' of weight swelling and cracking. The copper is going to tarnish quickly. Where are the grab rails, and guard rails etc? And why sliding drawers in a boat? It all seems very impractical. Boat interiors have evolved the way they are for a reason.. you shouldn't really muck around with it. What's wrong with laminate boards, and stainless steel? It's easy maintenance, practical and long lasting. Exposed carbon, sure, I agree with that, but to 'check for cracks' hahaha I'd be questioning my boat builder if that's a concern of his lol
Have you tried Mighty Travels Premium yet?
We’ve had cork floors for 40 years. It’s warm, doesn’t let things break when dropped BUT it’s Super Slippery when WET!! Due to the layers of Polyetheline on top of the cork which over times wears down so you need to resend the cork every so often. The slipperiness with wet feet is downright dangerous and real nuisance!
Ian M. Riley I heard you mention sailing the Southern Ocean. My son was part of the Australian Airforce maratime division that went looking for Bullimore when his boat overturned in bad conditions in the Southern Ocean below Australia. The biggest problem they had was trying to spot a white hull in a sea of white chop. My point is that heaven forbid if you were overturned in a gnarly sea having a bright Fluor colour, say orange , on the bottom of your boat would make rescue easier for aircraft. Just a thought. Greatly enjoying your adventures.
Very good point, the colour of the antifoul would factor in too.
Great point
The color that is best seen underwater is yellow. Its my least favorite but does the job.
The color that is best seen underwater is yellow. Its my least favorite but does the job.
If you want to be spotted by merchant vessels / navy / responders get an AIS. They will spot you either via SAT or VHF range.
It pops right up on the radar screen (almost all have AIS plots on radar or chartplotter). Much harder to spot small boats with radar or eyeball, especially in bad weather. Also if they need to contact you, the name of your vessel is right on the screen. So much easier during communications. Also it provides COG and SOG so they can easily determine if there is a danger of collision without having to rely on a spotty radar lock. With smaller vessels you can get decent radar lock in 3 miles, less in weather. Sounds like a lot but with vessels going 20 knots it does not give so much time. If the guy on the big boat is looking at his phone you can be in trouble already.
I still love how this all started.
Boy buys a boat, not knowing how to sail,
and met a girl…it’s been amazing sailing ever since.❤️🙏
Good luck with your new vessel and I look forward to seeing it finally in your hands. Lots of good comments but just a couple of observations from a seaworthy point of view. Comparing the evolution of cockpit sizes from your monohull to La Vagabonde to your new trimaran - although the term 'cockpit' is probably a misnomer when applied to the area forward of the steering station on the tri - they've gone from conventionally smallish to enormously large. Heaven forbid that you take some serious water on board as that 'cockpit' area would contain an enormous volume of water that would be catastrophic if it found its way below. Perhaps there's something that I can't see but you'd want some very, very serious drains down there to accommodate it. Even for lesser amounts, conventional wisdom suggests that the cockpit door have at least a small bulkhead to prevent water from going below, whereas from what I see the door is currently flush with the 'cockpit' floor. i see, too, compared to La Vagabonde, the forward windows on the main cabin are very deeply recessed and vertical, which means that the pressure of any real volume of water coming aboard from forward would be impacted directly onto those windows. It seems, too, that unlike La Vagabonde, the helmsman is going to be sitting rather alone out there on his/her little pod, exhilarating in fair weather sailing but perhaps not so much fun when the weather turns foul. It all sounds a bit negative, but seeing that you're still at the design stage perhaps you might find the comments helpful. Regardless, we are regular watchers and look forward to your ongoiing adventures and seeing your young family growing up, so all the very best to you Riley and Elayna. Cheers from Hervey Bay, Australia
I love the idea of your design!
Two worries I have for you…
Copper is pretty when clean but it gets pretty dirty quickly. In addition if you are you doing walnut counters tops, please make sure you have an incredible sealant and be prepared to do it often or that wood will swell and damage from water quickly.
I aggree about walnut counter top. White Oak has a natural closed cell structure which helps it be more durable and less absorbant. But I get ít is not the colour scheme of copper and brown leather.
@yo yo we have wood counter tops.....we live in a house on land near the coast.......even with average kitchen wear and tear we need to sand and refinish the counters every 3 years or so.
Many walnuts bleach out with UV. Would not be my choice. It is beautiful.
Such good advice guys, thank you!!
I'm currently a senior and stumbled across your videos about a month ago and never looked back. Thanks to you I have learned so much more about the ocean and you'll even inspired me to sign up for a marine biology class next semester. Living in California, this class will allow me to travel to Catalina Island and learn more about our oceans. Anyway, I truly hope that one day I can graduate and live the way you guys do while you're still young! 🤍
Personally I would get tired of the blue after a while. The white will be easier to match with your decor and looks bright and airy.
We had a leather couch and ended up getting rid of it because it sticks to your skin in hot weather and is really cold in cold weather. It also grows mold easily. My kids were little and they would drop snacks into the couch and mold would grow almost instantly and then you can’t get rid of it. I would go with couch covers that you can take off and wash, especially while the kids are little.
The new boat is so exciting! I’m super happy for you all.
❤️
Definitely white cabinets !!
Light and bright, which is great for filming and will also make the other features like the copper sink and leather couch pop. Cannot wait for a boat tour!
I'm just excited to see how it all comes together. I definitely agree with most on no leather, just too hot and mold threat.
There are some excellent synthetic leathers out there, but truly a host of fabrics that would be more suitable than "reclaimed" leather.
Wow, an army of good and qualified opinion. Good luck guys.
I would have thought that a catamaran with two kids would have been a no-brainer for the long term. Parents have their side and the boys have their side. In just a year or two I think y'all will be wishing you had that more than the few extra knots. As someone with young boys I know I sure would; but I'm probably just projecting 😂
You are not at all, they keep trying to rationalize the bad decision that is without a shadow of doubt a step back space/placement-wise, even if not in absolute width or sqr space, it is in privacy and ergonomy. Their gut is definitely telling them its not right choice but theyre like kids,sometimes too smart for their own good,going against their gut with intellect.
Definately, as well as having to option up the crew sleeping quarters in the hulls if they want to
Keep the current situation of having crew onboard etc
Who would have a 60ft boat with 2 cabins ?
Yea, I think for a boat the cat is the best option. I don't want to be sailing and have to walk sideways or sleeping, etc - a flat cat is just better. Then the lack of space on a tri, privacy is basically gone between everyone unless you go to one of the small tri's which being small, can't stand up, can't even get to in some sea conditions just makes it useless. Sounds like they really want more speed and more outside space vs anything else which a tri will certainly provide while taking away the other items I mentioned. Personally I think a larger more sporty cat (or one designed with more deck space) would suit what they want without any of the downsides. However, everyone is different - but I get the feeling after they try living on it they will come to dislike it for the reasons I mentioned. A flat sailing boat (cats) provides tons of inside room, and a good design can make plenty of speed and provide more deck space. I think we're beating a dead horse since they are deep into the process of getting the tri - and if they think it is better for themselves in their case then going with it is fine. Most people a cat is the best option out of all sailing boat for the reasons I mentioned.
@@JohnAdams-qc2ju Agree,but this is Rileys racing boat dream,basically a nightmare for parenting.!
And especially considering the kids are going to have to share a room. That’s not going to work long-term, and it honestly doesn’t seem fair to them.
I am behind on videos but if it is not to late, I STRONGLY suggest white cabinets. Common misconception is that white cabinets looks dirty fast but it is the opposite! LOVE the copper by the way, and walnut, I have a 12 foot walnut dinning table. You will love it!
Thank you for your work on this channel over so many years. Possibly the best quote ever here was when Elayna said something like, it's impossible to describe Riley. In context, easily among the purest expressions of love ever published. You are tremendous. Especially when you describe conflict, danger, and angst. That's what makes it relatable. Thanks for your honesty, ideas, and spontaneously developed expertise. You offer your viewers the idea that we can do anything. It's an amazing gift. Cheers!
The new vessel looks amazing! but in regards to your question about the crew quarters, I can't say I've ever wanted to sleep in a coffin so I'd pass 🤣
Lol. I think they look like water coffins 😁
Me too!!
Not good..... crew are the cogs of a smooth machine....
Riley’s grin on his face was hilarious when he and Mark we’re talking about the speed of #3
Trust me when I say this, I live in the UK and own a black campervan, we have minimal summers, and the van in the sun still becomes too hot to touch, you don’t want black anywhere exposed on that beautiful new boat in the climates you’re playing with! It’ll weather faster too with the heat expansion and contractions….
Chartering LV2 is the best decision I think. So glad that you guys have brightened the day of those of us watching you and your adventure.
Fellow “Interior” here. I love the entire “honest boat” concept for the interior and the kitchen design is beautiful. My lower kitchen cabinets are a similar color to what you are planning. It’s Narragansett Green (HC-157) by Benjamin Moore. I’m not sure if you are required to use a marine grade paint on the interior…boat design isn’t my specialty. A few other great paint colors in that vein are Hague Blue by Farrow and Ball and Royal Navy by Little Greene. Sometimes finding that perfect color can be elusive, so I thought I would throw out some recommendations. I can’t wait to see the finished project!
Edit to add as others have mentioned for the upholstery a good quality vinyl would certainly be more cost effective and lower maintenance than leather…there are some that are passable for leather. Although a higher-end top grain leather would be durable and incredibly beautiful too. I totally get why you want leather for the overall look. I think it would be worth the cost and maintenance to enjoy the look and feel of it as it ages…as one does in an honest boat. :)
Love you guys, but I've got to say...I am seriously worried about this interior!! Fingers crossed its just the lack of proper renders but these material choices with a modern and brand new boat feel like a bit of an uncomfortable clash rather than homely and nice. Leather sounds like a bad idea in any hot part of the world - I think a breathable and less 'sticky' material would potentially work better. That said, can't wait to see it! Hopefully prove me wrong!
I came to say the same thing! That interior (according to the mock ups) is terrible! I hope im wrong!
I actually love it, but I think you do have to see through the rendering. The rich blue cabinets with cork flooring, just imagine with the bright blue sea and distant island filling up all the windows. I'm sure they'll have AC most of the time so it won't be hot and sticky, and the feel of it might have a subtle tone of otherworldly futuristic pirate ship. In any case it will be very cool to see what it's like when it's finished!
Your interior is amazing and beautiful. With that said, Go with the white. We have navy blue cabinets and they look awesome in our Scandinavian kitchen. BUT the color shows everything worse than white. Plus it scratches and chips noticeably easy and we are 2 grown adults. If I had it to do over again I might go with either a softer gray blue or the suede green color that is popular now.
Maybe a compromise on the cabinet color and do a dove grey with a touch of the blue mixed in. Not sure what you call it, but it would be a very light grey blue. I have it in my SUV and I find it so soft and calming and does not show dirt. Would look great with your other colors too.
I love the look! Only concern is the copper and seawater mixing.. my guess is that it won’t take long for it to tarnish to a green. Which isn’t ugly, but it could off set the color you were originally going for. Keep up the awesomeness, God Bless.
nach meines Wissens ist grünes Kupfer giftig
Copper can be sealed to prevent oxidation and maintain any colour U bring it to before sealing it.
100% White would look Beautiful!! Bright and bigger looking! Change hand towels and dishes to change colors.
You can change pillows and
throw blankets for adding colors.
The other looks dark and dungeon.
Leather will be sticky and mildew.
Black will add heat.
Hope you add AC air when it is to hot.
Congratulations!🎉
I’d like to make a suggestion regarding the location of the tapware. I would locate the tapware on the backsplash behind the sink rather than on the bench top as they always need to be cleaned around. Sounds like a simple thing to wipe around the taps however water tends to collect there when people turn off the taps with wet hands or splashes from the sink. I’d do the same in the bathrooms. I believe it lends a less cluttered look as well as less cleaning.
If I went with the blue I would go with a lighter blue like a sky blue or aqua as it will brighten things up a little and contrast nicely with the black carbon. Of course as stated it’s a personal taste thing and everyone is different. Another suggestion: they have artificial leathers which they are using in cars and they have the look and feel of real leather but are more durable and easier to clean.
These also can get sun bleached and flake off due to different weather conditions or just body sweat!
I've followed you almost from the beginning and it has been wonderful for this old lady. It is surprising to hear Elayna being OK with the boat doing in the high 20's at sea. I remember her being quite unhappy about much less. You are becoming a real sea woman. :)
So great that you’re working with your friend. Great to see how excited you are about the finishes. We have leather but we live in New England. Can’t imagine sitting on leather in the tropics though. Best of luck.
A quote from Mark to Riley: You can always put more sail out! The grin on Riley's face priceless made my day! Very happy for you all. Looks amazing. Interested to see kitchen decor.
David, I always love to see your smiling face- you brighten up the video with your sweet nature and sense of humour. God Bless You!
Hey guys your Rapido is looking sick! I’d suggest looking at pressed tin panels for the splash back. They are super lightweight and can be powder coated in any colour you want to go with the interior design. They are also really easy to keep clean. I’ve got a photo here and can send to you if you want.
Yes please!! Thanks Rees
@@SailingLaVagabonde I just sent it to Riley's Instagram. Couldn't figure out how to send it on here!
Oh how excitement!!! I'll be sad to see Vaga ll go as your home but happy Jack's taking her over....new adventures for all if us!
For anyone watching this please go back to their first episode!! Really makes you appreciate where they've come from and how hard they've worked to build the life they life. You guys are amazing beautiful people ❤️ keep up the awesome videos and stay safe out there!
How hard they worked? Making videos?
I love Elayna when she is being spontaneous as she is naturally funny!
So True. She's vẻy funny & so natural. Ryles is too in a much different way. And he gets the award for most improved. Hé's quite comfortable with the camera now. I remember how hard it was for him to share in the beginning.
Thanks Rylie: loved the split of the current boat to show how much 1/3 more living space you will have on the new boat. I also vote for the blue. Love the color next to the copper touches.
Me too!!!
Love copper.
Insanely exciting!!! Love the used leather couch idea love it. You are literally the cleanest family I’ve ever seen. All of your choices will be awesome. Follow your hearts. You don’t need anyones approval
Not being a sailor, and only been sailing on a cat before a few times, I am still hesitant on the Tri, with crew and kids.
I love the extra outdoor space, but living inside in crap weather may become tight?
EITHER WAY, I love your content, and looking forward to the new adventure with you, being here since the mono days!
Having faith in your experience and who/what you are, I am sure the years to come will be epic!
Love you all!
Thank you for including us in this❤ it's looks beautiful⛵😍I personally like the white. You can always paint over it when you're feeling in need of a color change later on in life OR maybe both blue with a white accent(something simple) The kiddos will messy it up either way, blue or white. The final decision should be y'all s, whatever make you happy!
Honestly "Thank You!" For providing wholesome fun family entertainment. While we your viewers learn about boat life & safety in sailing the beautiful sea.
I really love this sentence: "Would you like to elaborate, darling?" - ! It made me chuckle quite delightfully.
Wow - you guys are such beautiful people. Even in designing your new yacht, the way you are considering every aspect from various angles trying to figure out what is the most responsible way of doing it. That's awesome. If ever you come past South Africa, give a shout and we'll go watch the Springboks take on the Wallabies... winning side buys the drinks!
It’s absolutely beautiful!! I’m just curious how walnut will hold up in the tropics though. Wouldn’t cypress or teak be more tropic weather friendly? Just curious how it all works.
Walnut is not a very good wood for a wet environment. This is coming from a naval interior architect.
Listen to this guy
Gal actually
The design is not good. Designer girl doesn't seem very experienced with naval architecture
In my experience I would never employ a novice or a friend to design something as complex/expensive as this. A friend who is also a novice should be a big red flag. I am sure there are other naval interior architects around....perhaps you might be able to recommend one Vicki? ;-)
What about the copper, I see some people saying it's one of the metals most susceptible for salt related corrosion?
yall are hysterical. This was a gray episode. And we think the colors of copper, dark walnut add such a cool vintage sailing vessel vibe.. Very cool! And the leather from the couch is such a genius idea! And sleeping in Amas would be great too.and add ceiling fan, and charging ability it would totally cool. 👍
"Edgy nautical with lashings of shabby chic"
is just legend!
Blossom, crazy explorers, blossom indeed!
Okay, you guys asked for it, here's my quick feedback with the interior. 😀👍 My only concern is that the gold and blue, which I really love, could possibly clash with that marbled gray upper wall and ceiling that you chose. When I see that shot of the three colors together, something looks like it's clashing a bit. I went through this kind of predicament when I put together about four different condos over time and that's the hardest thing to do is matching colors. Perhaps you want it that way, just my two cents, you guys asked. 🙋♂️
The "marbled grey" was just the rendering doing it's best to replicate shiny black raw carbon. I don't think it will clash so much against the actual black of the carbon vs the rendering.
Exposed carbon always looks modern like. In my opinion that is why it is clashing with the more classical kitchen.
Love the new boat. Can't wait to see your first sail and the looks on your face.
As a Marine trimmer and keen sailer with a few passages under his belt, and lots of leather upholstery through my trusty sewing machine, leather is a great material for boats. Its tough, easy to clean, durable and feels great to sit or lie on. But...it must be high quality. Leathers ain't leathers. Also, I'm not quite on board with with using recycled leather from an old couch for 3 reasons.
1. You will be able to source an aged finish on new leather if that's your desired look. 2. Why buy leather that is possibly half way through its usefull life.
3. New leather will age with you and the boat, so in 10 or 15 years instead of recovering the lounge you can both look at lounge and think how well you are aging together. Haha, can't stop father time. If I come across a couple of styles I'll send them your way.
Curious what brands of new leather you like.
@@captainsukycannon1167 In Sydney a company PELLE leather wholesalers have a great selection and different grades. Generally European leather is a higher quality with less scaring. Auto leather is also a good start as it is designed for high wear and UV. I don't have any particular brand off the top of my head at this point.
It's been a very long sail from the first day until now with a lifetime in between. I have enjoyed every voyage, family life, friends, patrons & scenes. Wishing you all including our fellow followers the best with the new home. My best episode was when you snuck aboard the cat the first time! It's been wonderful ever since. Prayers for more!! Luv'ya!
The Dulcinea was Aaron's boat of 10 years or more!! ⛵🇧🇸 She sank in Dorian and ended up on the shoal of Marsh Harbour!😔 There is definitely treasure in there Lil Lenny!!! Crazy, we were in your last video changing that wrong sized trampoline for ya and now She (the Dulcinea) is in this episode! Still sad to see her like that on a regular basis, she was an enchanting old gurl for sure!!! Hope you guys are doing well, I have a gift for you if I ever run into you guys again! All the Love, Red Molly & Captain Aaron🥰
Fascinating ! I really, really enjoyed that.
Re: Amas:- As crew I would hate sleeping in one of those in rough weather ... unless you add a head size dome (or even a small skylight) to look around. The big factor for me would be having no idea what is going on above me. In good weather you would find me sleeping on the trampoline instead ... my favourite place on a Cat.
No one will ever be sleeping in them on a passage.
I couldn’t sleep in onemof those in calm water, it looks too much like the size of a coffin. … airless and dark.
Yes, no viewport, I'm thinking not for the claustrophobic. And how are they supposed to relieve themselves during the night...have to clamber across to get to the head?
Thanks for sharing! It's going to be great to see it all come together. My only design concern potentially would be your salty environment interactions with your copper alloy bits. facets handles etc... Salty environments love copper and not in a good way.
It's one of the worst metals for a saltwater environment.
I would love to see a presentation video from Rapido and yourselves talking about the costs, especially for yours which is clearly having lots of your design inputs. Costs like fuel saving from having so much solar and ability to sail so fast to prevent having to motor sail, mariner cost and restrictions for trimarans, maintenance for a performance yacht vs pleasure yacht.
Love your videos, I've been watching you from the beginning out of personal interest as my family were also cruisers (long time ago now), they sailed around the world and we (brothers and sisters) were all born in different places (I was born in Tasmania). We ended up back in England when my dad gave up sailing at 85 years old.
Some of the comments about living space are wrong. You sail around places where you don't spend very much time inside, most of your time is spent outside so deck space is way more important, then the added speed to move location faster is super useful to make the best of the moving seasons.
I absolutely love love love you guys. My name is Christine Wilson. I live in Nassau and am a Bahamian. I have island hopped every year to see the island but you guys have wowed me from your view of my country. I especially enjoyed the episode of Ragged Island as that is where my father is from but I personally have not visited there as yet. I am now inspired to see it from the water as supposed to flying in and just staying on land. As soon as I find a boat 🤣🤣💐. Please be encouraged. Hopefully I meet you guys one day. I appreciate everything you do out there. Thank you 😊
I see a lot of people commenting how there will be less room on the new Tri than on the current Cat. You have to remember, the Rapido is SIXTY feet long, and significantly wider than the current cat. A 60-foot monohull on its own is MASSIVE with regard to interior space, and Rapido have done a great job with the interior design. It makes different use of the space, but there's more of it than on the current cat, especially when you include the amas. And the tri's design is such that it will handle better than the cat, especially from a comfort perspective, with less porpoising, etc. It'll all become clear when the new Tri launches and we get to see how it suits them here on CZcams.
@Meadmaker 452 Can you explain to me something about Tri performance that seems counterintuitive to me? A Tri is intended to heel, right? Yet Riley was inspired to seek a Catamaran exactly because Elayna was so challenged by editing on La Vaga I, a boat that was shifting and heeling. A Tri may be generally more stable, but doesn't the heeling pose a challenge to someone editing, cooking, or, say, learning to walk?
I agree that "space" won't really be an issue. The living quarters will actually be more optimized from what I understand in terms of how people move through a room. It's a bigger area to use continuously without needing to use stairs or crawl.
The only thing I'm skeptical about are the amas. I seriously can't imagine someone sleeping in there. We'd have to see how big they actually are, and whether they are thought-through. I read a lot of comments here criticizing the size (can feel claustrophobic), and ventilation (it gets too hot there) even when you have 1 hatch/window - it gets way too hot sleeping in there. I also saw different suggestions though. The size (if the amas are big enough) might actually be a non-issue and it might be a cozy sleeping room. For ventilation, the user WillN2Go1 suggested that you don't necessarily need Air Conditioning there, but instead you approach it like "ventilating a cave" (cave that has just one opening), where you split that one opening. He explains that: "if you have one hatch, find a way to put some kind of flat divider in that opening. Like 4- 6" (100 - 150mm) card. It's not complicated, doesn't have to be centered. (You can stick a candle at the bottom of a rum bottle, it'll quickly use up the oxygen and go out. But if you stick something to split the opening, like a slip of paper, convection will change the air and the candle will stay lit.)" That might be a solution for ventilation. I'm also worried about people walking from the amas to the main hull to use the bathroom at night, and who knows in what weather. Seem dangerous.
@@PemiBlue - You're correct. The trimaran will definitely heel, but probably less than half as much as the monohull and without some of the yaw characteristics of La Vaga I. All in all, there should be less motion, but there will definitely be heel. I thought about this, too, when I heard they were going for a Rapido, considering they had once sought the stability of a cat. Riley and Elay took a trip on Romanza not too long ago, before ordering their Rapido, so I assume they got to experience this and thought it would be okay. But we'll have to see. It'll be an interesting change for sure.
@@VladimirMizich - They've said they won't have people sleeping in the amas while the boat is under way, so getting up to use the restroom in the night won't be any more of an issue than it would be during the day. No danger there. There's technically enough room in the amas for a bunk, but it'll definitely be cozy. Other than their illustrations, I haven't seen this practically, so we'll have to wait and see when they get the boat. They're thinking through all of the details ahead of time, so I'm sure it'll be well sorted by the time the boat is delivered.
@@meadmaker4525 Thanks for explaining in what way there should be less motion overall. I can imagine that heeling on one plane would be preferable where there was less chaotic motion. I’d forgotten that they had taken that trip on the Romanza. Yes they must have decided it was an improvement or a fair trade-off for other characteristics.
The Copper sinks that I have used need a lot of maintenance! They get this blue like rust that needs constant cleaning. Also water spots show a lot make it look not shiny and new. please check any copper feature out before putting it in.
Since you asked, I build beach homes often, I would def not do copper backsplashes or counters. Copper will not hold up well to salt water corrosion. I would go stainless steel for longevity. Would also not do a leather couch. Gonna be sticky and doesn't do well with moisture either, faux leather would be better but there are better materials.
For cabinets it's a taste call. White will make the space feel bigger, blue is a heavier feel but will provide more contrast if your walls are white... but if your interior is going to be exposed carbon (black grey) I would def go white to lighten things up.
Good luck
One of your best episodes yet. The discussion of the design of a high tech boat is very interesting.
Copper? Copper is one of the least resistant metals to salt-related corrosion, if I'm not mistaken. Also, copper is even heavier than iron. I thought weight was always one of Riley's main concerns. It doesn't sound appropriate for a honest ocean vessel.
Copper plated maybe?
Big woop good for you.
Wow!! Such an exciting episode. Great to see the gleam in Riley's eyes as the design comes together while he thinks about that Rapido speed... Great idea to create crew space in the amars. This will be epic!! Vote for blue!!
I hope you guys take the time to build skills on your new boat. I was racing directly behind Harrison when he flipped his trimaran - the Formula 40 Running with Scissors- and we sailed over to see if anyone was hurt. They had their Screatcher up with an inexperienced crew member unfamiliar with the sail controls and a 20 knot puff drove the boat over the bows. Fortunately it did not endo. It rolled over on its side and several crew were thrown in the water and others clung to the net as the boat settled. You guys will be sailing a serious, high performance boat and learning to sail it safely downwind, reaching and in big waves will be crucial.
We’re not racing mate. We’ll be fine.
Blue 100% - white is basic (said with love). It doesn't matter that it is a dark blue because the amount of light flooding in will compensate for it - in my opinion :) Leather, won't it be a bit sweaty in the type of places you sail but I suppose that is easier to clean off than a material one..? It sounds bloody amazing, cannot wait to see it!!
Such a good vid guys!
I love the blue but was also thinking how dark it may be in your videos? I think the white will lighten the room and its timeless so you can add colour with things that are replaceable.
Also hate how my body sticks to leather when it’s hot and muggy and how much mould lovvvesss leather. It’ll look cool but the practicality of it is questionable.
I had the same thoughts about the leather... Honestly, I would go with something less likely to deteriorate in both the humidity AND the effect (and likely spillage) that is inevitable having two little rambunctious boys on board, especially with the additional heel in a trimaran. (I've seen baby Darwin's face and body COVERED in food at mealtimes LOL!) You could always have weathered leather couch covers for that homey feel that could easily be removed when needed for cleaning/repair/replacement and have a synthetic cover beneath that is fully waterproof/cleanable/etc. That way if you do need to do anything to the leather you'll still have nice seats until you get it back or have new ones made. Something to consider.
I love the look of the blue as well as that it will show less dirt. But the white in the current boat is also very handsome so I don't think you can go wrong on that choice.
Love watching/following you both and your children! I’m still not understanding the decision on this trimaran though. Having long ago raised my family, your children are going to need more SAFE play areas and Elayna’s skin condition needs more covered areas on a boat rather than less. I get it’s faster … but seems like you’re giving up a lot over say an H&H catamaran for a little more speed. I do hope I’m wrong and it works out well for you.
It does not matter
basic rule of thumb for interior color design is to start with the things you can not change and work back from them. The exposed Carbon is a great idea but uses up most of your color options. The colors that don't show dirt are light beige and light grey, white does not show as much as darker colors, cheers!
Dear Eleyna, I really hope this is what YOU want, too. I really hope, the new vessel also reflects your dreams and needs and is not only sth you can live with, because Riley loves it, like the leather Couch ( which you can tolerate as long as there is a cover on it). Being in a relationship means constantly balancing between what YOU want and need, what your partner wants and needs and what you as a couple want and need. And EACH of the three elements is crucial. ( based on 22yrs relationship, 20 of these married and 3 kids). I hope you have clear success criteria / limitations to pull the plug/modify this project, if needed. Love to all of you guys.
My preference would definitely be white, it makes everything else pop and never goes out of style. If you did blue, I would say a more royally navy blue.
I would also really question the leather.
Just letting you know that I love watching your videos each week. Good luck as you go forward.
Ha ha loved Riley’s facial expressions…he could barely contain his excitement 😁 We haven’t got a clue about sailing, but this was interesting…..we really enjoyed it! Oh and we ❤️ the interior colour and design choices 🤗
Mark's a great guy, you could not have anyone better building your boat
So amazing to see where you guys started to where you are now. Really an amazing story for 2 very deserving people
The boat looks amazing. My only concern for you is the copper backsplash. I have had copper in my last home and it's hard to maintain. Water leaves marks food fingerprints, it looks beautiful when it's clean though.
I completely agree. Copper is sooo high maintenance. And, add the salt water it’s not gonna be good
@M J Faulkner agreed, they now have a clear glass coating too put on indoor copper that is claimed to last a lifetime, I have a indoor wall water fountain that is copper and so far (5yr) it hasn’t changed color
Bar keepers friend get liguid keep cooper in good standards. The big will bring it back all the time.
Bar keepers friend will help with keeping Cooper good
Agree, the copper will need lots of cleaning and maintenance.
DEFINITELY, THE BLUE!!! Love love love the design. The sink is the bomb. Weathered, worn leather is great too. It’s going to be beautiful!
We had cork floors growing up and they were great for the drop factor. You can also refinish them, so they have the longevity factor of wood without the extra maintenance in a marine environment.
You’re going for an edgy almost industrial loft feel - go the blue kitchen cupboards - it will give you the character you’re after.
G'day from Australia, re your new trimaran & your tender, we agree, your tender is your car & you'll be launching & retrieving very regularly & it's important to have it stored on a cradle especially in rough conditions rather than just hanging on lines from davits. We too used our boom with a solid alloy extension, our first out of alloy scaffold wasn't strong enough. This extension was supported via a 45° cable to the topping lift with a solid s/s bar under it that a pully ran on so the tender could lift & lower without having to be pushed around & then slide it back to lower or raise from the cradle. Mk1 we had to push it around & in rough weather it was very difficult & dangerous as it's swinging on one lifting point. This brings me to the next problem, we had to engineer an 8:1 block & tackle. Several options were tried, including also using the winch before we nailed the 8:1, bigger would have been better. Our tender was light 3mt inflatable with a 2 stroke 9.8 Tohatsu & it was still hard work. Yes I could do it by myself & the wife in an absolute emergency & it took awhile for either of us to do it hence we swam most places. We feel this maybe an NRG ( Not Real Good) option for you as you'll need a bigger, heavier tender & o/b for your family, crew & work. We were all about saving weight but in the end went to davits with the same sliding arrangement & cradle. This brings us to your solar panel arrangement, we don't feel your fold in & out system will work. You need all your solar panels displayed to the sun at all times. Shading is already a big issue on a sail boat. We have 1610watts & 320amp/hrs of lithium batteries & a load of 3 fridge compressors & a 12v, 33amp desal as well as all the usual gear. We need more battery power, it's fine 90% of the time but rain for a day & we're running our engines. You'll have greater loads than us charging cameras, communications & IT Equipment so will probably need more solar & batteries than us. Anyway good luck with your new yacht & we hope this helps you. Gotcha Covered
The twinkle in Riley's eyes when he talks about the Tri.🤗 I love blue.💙
After having slept, with the Rapido on my mind, I rewatched it again. Of utmost importance is safety. With the six collision bulkheads, watertight compartments, at the bow and sterns, along with the placement of the engine, fire extinguisher, and forward and midship escape hatches, safety was a key consideration. These are the things that would be important to me; for you. 💙
What a cool boat! I can't wait to see you all sailing it! As for the cabinets, I like the blue with the copper. White is brighter but with all the windows and sun, I doubt it'll feel dark. I also think the blue and copper are a more nautical combo. That said, it'll look amazing regardless of which color you choose. I also have to say, I like the idea of a mustard-ish color for the hull.
Have you considered like a light cream/beige colour for the cabinets? Still gives that warm homey feel, light enough to not feel cramped and goes with everything including your wood! The blue is beautiful but it's just not timeless enough for you to 100% love it forever. Just some thoughts 😁 sure it will look stunning either way!
So interesting hearing your thoughts about the design and colours you want inside the boat. As a graphic designer myself I'd say pick whatever colours you like because it's always about the client. My pick would be the white cabinetry with a light coloured wooden surface, that's aways been my dream anyway, o and a farm style kitchen sink (way too heavy for a boat haha). The blue will look good too. It really does come down to personal choice.
I too would go with white and lighter coloured wood, make the space feel bigger, especially since as they're going to a trimaran they're essentially going from a cat to a monohull's living space and it will help make the space feel more familiar and open
I would go for the white as well. You mentioned that the internal space will be smaller so I would want the space to look as big & open as possible.
The only thing that put me off was the front scroll-y design on the farm sink -- a bit too precious, otherwise, love the whole scheme!
Your videos are my favorite part of Monday! Thank you for sharing your lives with us!
Hi Guys, I love the theme of what you want! I think the blue color is really warm and cozy!! dark colors kept low keep a space grounded and won't make the space feel small. I would NOT recommend a real copper sink!! it is a soft metal and the "antique" finish will not last long at all. It scratches off and reveals the shiny copper which does not tarnish the same as the synthetic finish. I will highly recommend a granite composite sink such as the Blanco 526541. it looks similar and the color is throughout so if it scratches its the same finish. they are very tough!!
I very much enjoy your channel. I wish I had been as adventurous as you in my younger years. My husband was adventurous but I know I held us back. So he did his hobbies solo and I supported him from a distance. So now I experience your travels on CZcams!
I would have thought you have been sailing your whole life! Great videos! Your channel is very informative and it is amazing seeing the sea life through your eyes.
Your children are learning so much and will have wonderful memories. Hopefully they will continue in your footsteps.
Fair Winds and Safe Travels!
Donna
Came from Eamon & Bec and Kara & Nate! I've been loving your all's channel! Binged the last few month and then decided to start from the beginning. I'm on Ep9! Keep being awesome and an inspiration for all of us.
Love from Minnesota
- Dan
Welcome Dan!! ☺️ glad you’re here.
@@SailingLaVagabondeTHANK YOU! Can we get a sequel to Riley's movie? it was hilarious!
Yeah I crossed the Atlantic in an Amas and had no issues at all. We had a skylight plus the hatch, but kept the hatch closed all the time. There were 2 bunks per Amas plus storage up forward. Not sure how that compares to your trimaran in size, but we were quite comfortable. That trimaran was huge, we were 8 adults plus 2 children on there. :) Cool project you got going there! :D
Soooo exciting!!!! Just one FYI when it comes to color darker tones make the space look smaller and the opposite for light. You could play with the level of darkness of a color. Just something to keep in mind is that lighter colors lift the spirit and again the opposite for darker color.
Love the sailor blue, copper, leather, flooring, everything you have chosen. Great taste and style! Can''t wait to see your family/crew living/sailing on it. You have worked so hard all these years. Congratulations!! 🤗
I think that the trimaran might be a bit of a mistake. It looks like you guys have become really accustomed to having crew on board to help you out and the downsize in living space aswell as accommodation comfort is really going to hamper your ability to facilitate having them on board for longer periods, especially on long ocean passages when you definitely will be wanting the help. I could be wrong but it looks like it's a good decision to be keeping the catamaran... it is a sexy boat though.....😊
I agree. The new boat has less indoor living space and crew will not like those amas close quarters. There is less "guard rail" around the boat for 2 children who can get around quite quickly. In my opinion the new boat is not as family friendly, but that's just me.
I agree completely! With everything said.
100% agree. If they into racing vs sailing, the Rapido is a great choice. With two young children, the lack of space makes no sense. If speed is what they want, their Outremer or an HH would be a better choice.
@@sandy89107 I agree with you. Not impressed I rather have the living space.
@@Momster89 I agree with you. They seem to like it though.
This boat is going to be tremendous. Looking forward to the day we see it’s maiden Bahama sail at speed!
I'm so excited about the future adventures "we" get to go on.....I'm so grateful I found your CZcams channel.... So informative so beautiful... Love you all.....😊
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