Navy SEAL test Ballistics through Walls | Tactical Rifleman
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One of our favorite videos (and most commented) was Karl’s “Best Weapon for Home Defense.” Who would have figured that Karl would pick a rifle? Go Figure. Many of the controversial comments were around the topic of “over-penetration” of walls. There are lots of opinions on the subject, but very little actual data. So, rather than argue back & forth, we decided to do another video focused on the penetration of various walls with various firearms.
Great idea for a video, but once we started staffing this, we realized that it was going to take too long and cost too much. Karl hates the word “Can’t” and we made the decision that if we were going to invest a lot of time and money into making a video, then we better go all out and make it a standard that will stand for a while.
Which walls to build? Drywall interior wall and Cinder Block were both “No brainers.” We then added the exterior walls of common American homes, both Red Brick and Vinyl/Wood sided. We then noticed that many apartment buildings in “older/classic/historical” areas were using cinder block with red brick on the outside, to make it look “older.” This added another layer of protection; so let’s test that too. Finally, there are hundreds of thousands of Trail/Mobile Homes here in the US. So, we got permission to cut a wall out of a trailer home. That was kinda weird, with the dirty looks the neighbors were giving us.
What guns to use? Rifle, pistol, shotgun is obvious; but what types of rounds? We decided to stick with military 9mm ball, instead of the various hollow points, as the ball would penetrate more. We also shot it out of a SIG MPX. The longer barrel allows the pistol caliber round to fully speed up before exiting the barrel. We did this because we didn’t want Ninjas coming back saying that their Glock/SIG/Colt shot faster than our “test pistol” and therefore our findings were invalid. Yes, a 44 Magnum would possibly penetrate more, and a .45ACP would penetrate less. Who the hell is using a .44 Magnum anymore? Dirty Harry? For Shotgun, we went with a common home defense length Remington 870. We then used common 7 ½ Birdshot, common 00 Buckshot, and common 1 ounce Slugs. Yes, “Flight Control” buckshot groups tighter and “Turkey Storm” hits harder; but both are not common home defense rounds and also they would both have little effect on our test. For the rifle, we went with the most common 5.56mm round available in the US; the 55 grain full metal jacket. Yes, AK or 300blk would hit harder. Yes, “Green Tip” would penetrate better. On and on, there are hundreds of variables on loads. So, again, we stuck with the most common.
To measure energy after penetration, we used ballistic gelatin blocks, purchased from Clear Ballistics. This is really cool stuff. It’s reusable, once you melt it down. It reacts the same as the standard “FBI” gel that we have used in past videos. So, results are uniform.
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Brick + Cinder Block Wall
3:13 12ga 7 1/2 Birdshot
3:50 12ga 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
4:21 12ga 1oz Slug
4:57 SIG MPX 9MM +P 124gr
5:41 ??? 5.56 55gr
8" Cinder Block Wall
6:59 12ga 7 1/2 Birdshot
7:23 12ga 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
7:57 12ga 1oz Slug
8:49 SIG MPX 9MM +P 124gr
9:41 ??? 5.56 55gr
Brick w/ Dry Wall+
11:56 12ga 7 1/2 Birdshot
12:45 12ga 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
13:24 12ga 1oz Slug
13:57 SIG MPX 9MM +P 124gr
14:32 ??? 5.56 55gr
2 Sheets of Dry Wall
17:00 12ga 7 1/2 Birdshot
18:10 12ga 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
19:59 12ga 1oz Slug
21:58 SIG MPX 9MM +P 124gr
23:49 ??? 5.56 55gr
Vinyl Siding + Drywall
27:02 12ga 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
28:12 SIG MPX 9MM +P 124gr
Thanks for taking the time to time-stamp this video. TR
@@TacticalRifleman Nah, thank you. While I have your attention, I would love to see you take these walls and shoot a human sized gel IN FRONT of the walls, to see how far it would penetrate after you shoot through a body. Also, would love to see you use some of these walls in ricochet demonstrations. You might or may not be surprised on how crazy accurate you can shoot a ricochet and I think it should be in everyone's tactical toolbox for defending against it or using it to your tactical advantage!
Those are some interesting questions.
I'm up for some of that.
This is an EXCELLENT presentation and the timestamps are a Valuable Courtesy.
Many Thanks, to All.
??? = AR-15
@@cardboardcapeii4286 thanks
Legend has it, he neutralised several bad guys, walked up to their smouldering corpses and uttered the immortal phrase - "alright boys". There was no answer...
Literally came into the comments section just to see if anyone mentioned the amount of times he said it. I was not disappointed by your comment. 😂😂
Me to
Legend also has it that when he wakes up his kids…😂
Alright gents
this was an expensive and time consuming video, but very helpful. thank you for doing this for us.
This was/is an absolute fantastic video. I thank both of you so very much!!
This is seriously the best demonstration I've ever seen on CZcams. These guys put in a ton of time, effort, money, and knowledge and it shows. Thank you guys
Thanks for watching, TR
It is a good demonstration, and while I wouldn't say to take it with a grain of salt because it's deserving of more consideration than that for sure, I have personally seen 9mm and 5.56 go through cinderblocks. Also, they weaken fast and crumble after a couple of close-together shots, so I personally wouldn't want to rely on them as cover for more than a second or two.
And again I'm not trying to argue or anything, this is an informative video for sure.
@@amorg85I think individual cinder blocks are going to be easier to destroy.
In a wall you have a lot of weight on the blocks to keep them together.
The amount of work that went into this beforehand is amazing
Every time he says “alright boys” take a shot
Welp...I’m hammered in the first 3 minutes 😂😂
Youd be dead by the end.... ha ha
he graduated the viewer at one point, forget what he used because too many shots
"Alright gents"
done and done.
Alright boys, can tell a shit ton of work went into this video, thanks for the detailed breakdown. 🦃🦃🦃🦃
Outstanding! Well done. I learned a lot.
Yeah, this guy does awesome, information-intensive videos. It's also good to have the perspective of a genuine operator when it comes to combat effectiveness of different platforms, calibers and rounds.
@@madride858585
Use every opportunity to teach a person about guns. Don't exclaim how they don't know that shit.
Don Shipley is peeking around the corner: "Did i hear SEAL?"
The findings in this video would make some of my local gun shops employee “experts” not so credible anymore 😂
Truth hurts
It depends what type of round and grain. Fmj 9mm would prolly go easy.
If you guys need another idea for a video, add ballistics gel in front of the interior walls to simulate shooting the assailant and having somebody behind the wall for instance one bedroom to another. Just an idea. I know you were trying to simulate a total miss here. Great video.
Gonna do it in a future video
Not a bad idea.
That be interesting to see.
@@TacticalRifleman How about the Paul Harrell meat target ? A layer of denim over pork chop pectorals backed by pork ribs over a bag of oranges to simulate lungs , with pork ribs and another layer of pork chops , another layer of denim , and backed by a " high tech" bullet stop of multiple layers of synthetic fleece . WHEW ! That's a lot of typing . And that would get pricy very quickly . I wonder who eats the meat and oranges after Paul shoots them . His grocery bill is probably larger than his ammo cost .
Tactical Rifleman along the same lines as the comment above, it would also be interesting to include some variations of each caliber of pistol and rifle such as OTM, SP, and ballistic tip rounds
@lahokc59 Missed by that much . Ha !
Appreciate the amount of work that went into this video. For all the comments asking for a different caliber/ammo combination, I would simply ask “where’s your donation?” Nothing I saw in this video was done on the cheap. These gentleman’s time, the materials and construction effort, the weapons, the ammo, the video/sound equipment and the editing were all top notch.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. This video took forever to make. We appreciate the support. Merry Christmas, TR
Lets give these guys and their team a round of applause.. this took alot of money, time, effort and dedication.. the gun community would like to award you guys the platinum AR award, for uncommon dedication to the firearm and second ammendment community
He might be a Navy seal but I am a ninja Navy seal. I was trained in my momma's basement. 😤 2 tours to the fridge and 35 confirmed annihilations Cheetos don't stand a chance
Thank you for your service.
How did you survive the horrible pizza pocket war?
I'm a chairborn ranger myself and I just got back from 3 day combat tour to my mother in laws house and I think I might have Post
Thanksgiving
Stress
Disorder
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That's good training should your love pillow ever be in immortal danger!
Man, you guys really went all out on your wall construction.. A+ either way
“If you can zoom in right here”
Cameraman: No, No I don’t think I will.
High school teacher here. We were going through our lock down procedures today. I have a nice size closet that is within an older warehouse building, and is surrounded by a cement wall on all sides. I feel like its a perfect spot to hide. I wanted to see how 5.56 holds up against this style of wall, and I think we're good. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to do this, but sadly, we are not in a perfect world. In a near perfect world, I would protect my students by carrying, but I live in California, and we don't have much we can do here but hide and fight with generic classroom supplies. Thanks for the video, guys. I hope we never have to worry about this, but we have to be prepared.
Stock your classroom with expedient weapons that your larger kids can use. Seriously, baseball bats and brooms are all decent weapons and very inconspicuous for you to keep in a classroom. Cans of Bear spray, for an upcoming field trip also are nice to have around. Thanks for watching, TR
How about green tip and some 308?
Future videos already planned
Why on earth would you use a green tip .308 as your home defense cartridge?! That's retarded!
Definitely need to see some .300 Blackout info...
why green tip or stronger? I think you missed the point.
Green tip is good if you need to blast through walls or barriers to hit your intended target. However it has much less effect on your target than it's counterpart, XM193.
308 may perform better than what most think. Use a good soft tip or hollow point, major wound devestation but lacks the ability to penetrate compared to an fmj or other calibers. However with any rifle, ammunition choice is important and I'd never recommend a fmj for home defense unless it's 556/223 like XM193, those are the only exception.
Fantastic video and impeccable level of scientific rigor in your tests.
It also totally backs up an anecdotal story I heard a few months ago.
A guy I know was telling me about his mate that emigrated to America and works as a forensic investigator. He constantly bangs-on that if you rent or buy a place, make sure its an old building, because the walls will be made of brick. He keeps telling his friends that since he moved to America, most of the cases he's working on are people that got shot incidentally, through dry-wall partition who were not even involved in the gunfight directly. Apparently some of the fatal shootings are people that live 2-3 apartments away, who get hit by bullets passing through 4-6 layers of Gyprock.
Watching your video makes me think this guy is not paranoid.
So true... thanks for watching, TR
I’d like to see the test reversed, shoot into the gel first in front of the walls. Simulating shooting a bag guy and seeing what possible overpenetration would do.
I recommend watching some Paul Harrell vids. He regularly shoots a "meat target", and uses fleece blankets for backstops. He also tests common loads, as well as the "hyper" ammos.
Paul Harrell just did it in a video. Near target, wall, meat target to simulate bad guy, wall, innocent.
Great idea!
ALRIGHT BOIS!!!
2 Vids in 2 days? I'm playing the lotto, and you should too. This is more rare than seeing a shark and gorilla high-five in the sahara!
Matthew Smith 🤣🤣🤣
Matthew Smith 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Are you kidding? I had massive elk crapping in my backyard during hunting season! I really regret not getting a tag. I don’t think a standard face palm is enough
The SmorgMan -Gotta bow?
Eric King no, my last name is Bowman and I own no bow... epic facepalm required
Legend has it he starts ever sentence with alright gents.
It seems like all the 5.56 testing I've seen done against walls has been Ball ammo (FMJ). A varmint bullet (Nosler Ballistic tip, Hornady V max etc.) completely changes the penetration characteristics. The over penetration debate should really be about the type of bullet used rather then pistol vs. rifle vs. shot gun. Any of these weapons can "over penetrate" depending on the TYPE of projectile used.
We have future videos planned to address these issues.
@@TacticalRifleman Awesome! I do enjoy all videos.
I agree. LE usually uses some type of soft or hollow point to mitigate over penetration. Guess you are screwed living in a trailer park. Great videos Gents!
I would like to see what a 308 from something like an FAL or scar 17 would do. I know they're not used for home defense as often as the rounds you used, but it would've been an interesting comparison.
Build the wall!
Build a house
Mexico should pay for it.
Thanks TRUMP.
Thanks NRA..
Bye bye BUMP STOCK'S..
And shoot it down
Well done gents
Trump 2020!
Winning a bet for tickets to a Nickleback concert is the only time winning a bet is actually losing lol
Thanks for this. This is something that has concerned me and now I can plan my home defense accordingly without worrying about over penetration.
If I had a dollar for every time he said “alright boys”, lol 😂
22 caliber even goes through trailers. Some jackass put 12 rounds through my dads house after he had passed away..... I will be moving back to that trailer at the end of May. Whenever he get out of jail he will have a surprise if he try’s that again!
Isn't it funny how people react to things, this man has seen and been through things I couldn't even imagine as a NAG (Non Action Guy 😂). But when you stick a camera infront of him he still gets nervous and jumbles his speech. Great informative video and a fun psychological treat, thanks Karl.
Thanks for watching, TR
Doesn't take a rocket scientists to kick in doors and shoot people. They signed up for it and got paid. No appreciation is needed. Just sayin. Real warriors dont want your thanks
Phrase of the day "alright boys". Let's turn this into a drinking game. Everytime he says it, take a shot!
Already drunk
Can't believe this Navy Seal guy thought a RIFLE round (5.56) wouldn't go through DRY WALL??? Like WHAT??
Thank you, I actually went back to see if he actually said that. Who the hell would think drywall would stop a pistol round let alone a rifle round?
Carl called him a subject matter expert on this too 😬
Good thing people aren't making lightweight gypsum armor! I've heard high praise of the tumbling ability of the 556 round before. Impressive that seemed to drop to 9mm levels of penetration, at least.
how about the 7.62 against the same constructs?
Would probably zip through everything except the first wall ( and even that one after a few rounds in the right place). That's a big part of the reason why we issue 7.62 mm belt feds at a platoon level. They're not really even purely anti-personnel weapons, but do serious damage to structures. Three or four rounds of M80 A1 will punch through most common building materials, except for the most reinforced structures. And 7.62 NATO AP rounds will zip through the first one as well
x39, x51 and x54r
@@Laotzu.Goldbug But those rounds see little use for personal defense because they are obviously irresponsible in an urbanized area. However, an expanding round like the 155 gr Hornady Amax can provide over 3/4 the tissue displacement as a 12 gauge buckshot round with adequate penetration for defensive use. Likewise, the M118LR with the 175 gr SMK and a hunting load with a common cup and core JSP might be interesting choices for the sake of comparison. Some people do use rifles like the AR-10 and Springfield M1A SOCOM for home defense, just not, hopefully, with AP rounds.
Bob pickett I believe it would’ve been cool but they aren’t really common rounds outside of the military
AK ammo will chew through cinder blocks much better than 5.56mm. Lots of videos on CZcams to show it.
This is a good demonstration for urban prowlers and what a miss might do to the neighbors brick. Glad no penetration.
Thanks for helping me decide to go with concrete construction when I build my new home.
Good choice!
>uses 5.56 ammunition, a cartridge designed to fragment or tumble upon impact with something solid and rapidly release it's energy to incapacitate soft targets
>says it doesn't have the energy to push through the wall
That and uses two shot loads and 9mm against a brick wall. Why even waste the time?
This test was really eye opening. I thought the .556 would have more penetration, but it seems like projectile mass is important and not just energy. I used to think 556 had an over penetration risk, but I tests like this are making me question my assumptions. Great video!!!
A 5.56 rifle round is still deadly on the other side of a wall (depending on wall type obviously) on a missed target. If you shoot a 5.56 in your home and it goes through a wall with deadly force remaining, is it better than say the birdshot that is deadly on one side but not the other?
Ya'll committed a cardinal sin of cinematography: you crossed The Line! It confused me at first which side the impact of the shots was being shown from!
That said, this video was very informative.
Don't ever cross The Line again!
This knowledge is vitally important. Keep in mind even a brick wall usually has windows which will not stop anything. Stay behind the brick if you are in a house. That is fired up on.
Great construction! Should have been a Navy Seabee.😀
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Really appreciate putting all the work in for this highly informative video!
I'd love to see a follow-up video testing multiple rounds against the cinder block and brick walls. Some of those rounds were really close to penetrating, and I think a follow up shot in the same area would penetrate. I would contest that a brick wall isn't much good as cover if it only holds up against one round.
I'll add it to the Video Idea List
Worth watching. Knowing is better than guessing.
1 min into the video and i just love the practical approach to this. Everyone's debating what ammo is best so I fucking built like 5 different walls to test it. BRILLIANT! What a dude
Great video Karl, but seriously you need to paint your walls, I've got about 10 layers of paint on each side ahahaha
ifell3 curious if there’s such thing as armour paint. That has micro pieces of metal in it that holds it together better and reinforces
hahahaha used to have lead in paint, i wonder if you built up the layers ^^
@@cclcanadiancountrylife3628 - Not sure about armored paint, but there is armored drywall. It's bullet proof up to 45acp I believe.
would like to see 7.62R and .308 as well, and 50bmg just for fun
Future Video.
I'd imagine 308 and 7.62r would be similar to the slug. 50bmg would circumnavigate the globe and land next to the shooter.
matt taylor
Nah, .308 would penetrate the cinderblock wall for sure. Would probably make a good go at busting through the brick/cinder block combo. Don't think it would bust through, but it would crack the backside of the cinderblock portion.
matt taylor
I would suspect that the 308win would have a far greater chance of poking a hole through... small bullet mass, but three times the speed of the slug. The slug would probably mess up the wall more though... :)
Theres a Demo Ranch copycat trying this same idea, except... that guy used no real building material. This is probably the best vid for this type of experiment. A+
Stoked I subscribed to this channel - just found it. Awesome content with awesome guys ! 👍🏻🇺🇸
If nothing penetrated the first red brick wall why did you expect a different result just because you added an interior wall?
At least half of this is redundant. Ugh.
I laughed when he felt the need to adjust his scope. Great video!
Tactical Rifleman: has random walls
People at home: where’d my walls go?
Funny stuff
✋you can keep the nickelback tickets.
If Karl would've cut a different section of that trailer there could've been a nickelback poster to go with the tickets.
🎸 Look at this graph 📊
Hmmm! Still a lot of over-penetration I might have to switch to the ‘Education Stick’ (baseball bat)!
I’ve been a firefighter for 15 years and this is by far the most accurate representation of wall construction I have seen, However when you have a residential brick facade over normal 2-4 walls the brick used is normally veneer brick. Veneer brick is solid, (no holes in center) but only about an inch thick.
Joseph, it varies by location, because we actually got a lot of this brick off of local job sites, left over from homes currently being built local to us. Thanks for watching, TR
This is one of the only channels who’s videos I rewatch from time to time. Thank you guys for what you do and the information you share!
It would be interesting to see what a standard FMJ 45 cal ( non +p) would do to the interior wall out of a 5 inch barrel.
I'm imagining it would punch through drywall and wood like it wasn't there. It would he stopped by the brick or cement like everything else, though
I would like to see ,45 acp and .300 blkout tested
Moral of the story, be it home defense or a tornado, don’t live in a mobile home…
After watching this demonstration a few years ago to this date this is more accurate than what others are doing
Majority of the Southwest homes are built using paper mache but most people know it as stucco. It's all terrible regardless of the terminology. If your residence isn't built from brick, stone or concrete in some manner then all you have is shelter - not protection. Regardless of the material, I recommend you defend that residence by any means necessary to keep you and your family safe.
Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
Keep up the good work my friends.
A few years ago we had a rash of burglaries where the thieves used a very sharp knife to cut the vinyl siding from outside and then kicked in the sheet rock to get in. You're right. A real protected house is built from brick, stone or concrete.
Stucco on the outside is pretty common out in CA too. But due to earthquakes, anything made from cinderblock is bound to have least rebar inside of it, if not concrete as well.
Phoenix area, I totally agree that every home in Maricopa County built after 1978 is Cal stucco. Not worth it's weight in cover/concealment. It won't stop a .22 mag.
Brick sucks in a coastal climate. Properly applied stucco is a much better moisture barrier.
That's why I like the old victorian homes. They used real wood, wooden slats, plaster, thick exterior wood siding, and have that beautiful old style thats not used anymore. But they make great giant matchsticks though!
Was wondering what happened to my mobile home🤔
So Tornadoes aren't the only things hate mobile homes
Good stuff to know I’ve been in construction go 36 years and you wall examples are spot on the first I’ve seen spot on
Nice size investment of time and money in this demonstration. It will live on the internet for the next 300 years.
In the UK the typical house external wall is double-skinned masonry with a cavity, usually filled with insulation these days. The outer wall is often brick, sometimes reconstituted stone (like mine - basically a type of concreted made with local limestone made to look like natural stone) with the inner wall being the load bearing one made of aerated block on modern constructions. Proper cinder block (made from ash from power coal power stations and held with cement) hasn't been used for a long time.
There are some brick-skinned wooden-framed houses too, but in the minority (and they will be filled with insulation).
Very interesting guys but here in Australia we cant even own a firearm for self defence. It's not recognized as a genuine reason to own. Never mind the prohibition of every firearm you usef in the demo. The calibres we can have but not the firearms.
Thanks fellas
come to america and have your freedom!!
Same boat, meanwhile New Zealand gun laws are great.
@@troydodson4837 Lmao, america and freedom of guns, yeah right. Owning guns just give your police a free pass to murder people :')
@@onedude9427 No you imbecile, no police officer is given a free pass to murder. In fact police encounters that end in dead citizens are heavily scrutanised by accomplished experts in ballistics in the immediate aftermath unlike typical homicide between citizens. If a situation smells to the coroner and the CS Investigators you can bet there will be charges. There are a few high profile cases currently in the courts because an officer did not have reasonable justification for use of lethal force. Don't believe everything Al Jazeera or the BBC tells you.
The best interior and external wall with gelatin demo that I have seen. In fact the only one. I have seen interior walls before.
Great video.
Thanks for watching, TR
Thank you gents. My CQB home defense is a suppressed .300 Blackout rifle and a FNH FNX .45 Tactical with a suppressor
Solid plan
Who uses ball ammo for home defense? Lol Shouldn't they use 9mm hollowpoints? I'm guessing a 9mm hollowpoint won't stop in drywall either? But how much damage and how far does it travel out the other side?
Hugh Mongus
It doesn't. Check out box'o truth. It's a website where an older gentleman tested common rounds against common barriers. The point of the video is to show what typical guns are capable of penetrating, would make sense to use the most commonplace projectiles... hence fmj.
Depending on the hollowpoint, mainly clog up on the drywall and perform like fmj. The ones that don't still easily pass through multiple layers of drywall. Barring hitting a stud or other harder object a 9mm will easily go through every interior wall in the typical house. You'd probably be able to shoot through an entire house ,exterior wall to exterior wall
assuming it wasn't brick.
And who uses a 9mm sub machine gun?! Would have been better to use a handgun with common self defense rounds like Hydroshocks or Critical defense but we get the point. Great video otherwise Gent's
As a former army delta seal air marshal i can tell you from personal experience simply putting glue on your walls will bounce whatever they send right back at them.
Seriously, thanks karl for your advice and serious effort into this channel
I know this is an older vid (3 years as of now). I have seen this idea done many times before, but this is by far the best representation. Really well done.
Thanks for watching, TR
Hah that slug made the gel do the worm right off the platform.
I hope whoever got those nickelback tickets burned them
No because that means the band still got their money. Demand a refund
Birdshot is meant for birds. Use a shotgun round meant for people and stop pushing bird shot as a ok choice. Unless you are bad breath distance birdshot isn’t effective. Grandpa also used rock salt, I don’t recommend that either
I think they're shooting bird shot just to show us what it does, not promoting it.
BONES 1x2 there is no reason to show it unless they are just showing those ill informed people who use it. Yet Showing it gives people ideas that it is a good self defense load. Kinda like showing 380 in a pistol hunting video. It is as stupid as showing what rock salt does at this point. Just because someone’s grand father used it doesn’t mean it should be used.
@@zack9912000 You're completely missing the point. They're saying "look, even birdshot can make it through! Imagine what something actually worth a damn will do!" How that's not easily understandable to anyone with a half a functional brain cell is beyond me.
Anon Oniagent for Christ sake a pellet gun will punch through dry wall and some air soft pellets can punch him through drywall. Doesn’t take a genius to understand drywall will not stop any caliber. Are people truly that dumb thinking drywall will stop anything coming out of a firearm. The brick and block makes sense. If you have to shoot you need to know your back stop especially if their backside is to drywall
People need to remember to use common sense and know their back stop. Clint smith has even said to use a upward trajectory whenever possible to limit collateral damage if your round just zips through. Yet depending on the brand of bullet, does loose a lot of its energy going through a person and depending on the round may not even exit the body
Having shot a lot of birds with birdshot, I highly discourage using it on people. Can it kill someone, sure, but there are also a lot of accounts of it not making it through the breastplate or skull of a person who was shot at point blank.
In European terms all these arent walls lmao. I appreciate the experiment and the amount of effort that went into this.
In Europe we dont use any of these materials for building. Its always either solid historical 20-50 cm brick/stone walls or straight up 15-20 cm concrete, usually reinforced with steel and insulation materials.
Hey Y'all ! Thanks for your service and for making this video . I'm a Navy Vet myself , not a SEAL though . I don't want any misunderstandings and having Senior Chief Shipley on my ass . I was a fleet duty OS . Just a thought , if this series of videos is a success , and you think to move on , consider getting a junker automobile and testing against that .
I’ll add it to the list. Thanks for watching, TR
I carry 10mm 200g hardcast lead fl, next time could you try that? (Glock 20)
Why?
Really tired of SEAL this and that etc. Like no one killed bad guys before the SEALS. Like the joke what do you get when you pin on a trident..A publicist and a book deal. -3 war Retired ARSOF.
Hahaha
No shit, kinda doubtful as well. A "SEAL" that doesn't know shit about ballistics, needs a rest to make those shots, and calls that 9mm a machine gun?
Not surprised this was written by a ARSOF
@thisguy8383 Yes, do you?
I've been thinking the same thing lately. I mean you never see anyone claiming to be Delta Force, and for me personally they're more prestigious.
Brilliant. High fidelity. Realizing multiple rounds can shift the equation.
Appreciate the hard work and investment.
Like to see frangible and Glaser 223 rounds tested. SWAT going into school shootings should understand what rounds penetrate what.😀
I gotta get me one of them "INTERNET NINJA" shirts! I'm guessing it's a war trophy Karl hunted down deep into one of their secret lairs also know as their "parents basement".....
i used to use a 12 guage until i heard karl talk about a hostage situation and the use of an ar i changed my tune and gun!!! thanks KARL!!!
Go with what you know... and I know a Rifle. Thanks for watching, TR
He knew the 5.56 wouldn't go thorough the wall... He was trying to get rid of the nickleback concert. Can't blame him.
Agreed
I like how he adjusted optics for the wall right in front of him 😂
Old video and STILL the best I've seen!!
The consistant use of a home alarm system is a great threat deterrent. Great info on the video. Very useful
Thanks for watching, TR
you didnt have to go to a nickelback concert. you won man.
I want to say thank you very much for your expenses that you put into this and your time. Most people would not take it that far but you gentlemen did. Thank you for that.
One thing I want to make very clear to people though is if somebody's intentionally shooting you through a wall they're going to shoot more than once. They're going to shoot over and over and over and over and over again and hit that general area of the wall and weaken it until they break through.
That is true with all walls and glass.
I love watching these kinds of videos while loading AP ammo...
Good job whoever built those brick walls
My defensive plan includes using my stairs as a choke point, which also allows me to direct any fire downward to minimize any chances of collateral damage or projectiles leaving my house. The top of my stairs have a half wall all the way down one side and at the end of the stairs (like an "L" with the stairs exiting the left side of the bottom of the "L"). Both of those half walls have been filled with gravel. There is 1/2” plywood under the drywall in both sides to hold the weight of the gravel and keep it from pushing outward. I've tested this setup and none of my guns will get through the second side. Unless an intruder has a 50 BMG I should be good. This was a REALLY cheap and easy way to add some ballistic protection to my home defense strategy. It stops 9mm, 12 gauge slugs, 5.56, 7.62x39, and even 308. Only cost a weekend and a couple hundred bucks.
Solid plan. Thanks for sharing. TR
We graduated from Boys, to gents, to Gentlemen all in 31 minutes.
“I noticed I was saying boys a lot so I switched to gents….see what I did there….variety”
Glad we are actually looking towards actual experts who have done it rather than just read a book
I have used “Glaser Safety Slug is a frangible bullet made by Cor-Bon/Glaser” as my .40 cal go too home defence pistol rounds and low recoil 00 & #4 shot mixed every outlet one in 12ga. Not a lot if any over penetration form my pistol.
Great video guys!!! Nice work!
-Blade
Karl is right about knowing your house. Know what angles you can shoot where there are good backstops if the bullet misses the bad guy. Know when you need to shoot up or down. I use an AR because it's a pain to shoot a pump shotgun from compromised positions, and I have found that the shell will fall out when the ejection port is facing down when racking a round into the chamber.
Amen
I had someone come through our doggie door and had my shotgun but I had dragon fire in it Definitely lit him up He was partially on fire
American Ingenuity against Crime.
This is the most thorough i've seen of these videos for sure. None of these videos ever show a lathe and plaster wall though, which happen to be my last three homes.
For drywall interior walls fill them with gravel and before that make sure you reinforce all supports in your basement this will deflect and absorb pistol calibers and effect rifle calibers.
Thanks for the nice video. In Central Europe, Cinder Blocks are usually filled with concrete/cement, never used alone without filling.
By code most places in the USA are also supposed to fill the blocks with cement. However, often, contractors skimp to save money and only pour in walls that support weight. Therefore, we replicated "worst case scenario" with empty blocks. Thanks for watching, TR
Thanks for this video and taking the time to build realistic walls especially the brick and cinder block walls. I more or less knew what to expect with the other wall types but not the brick and cinder blocks. Which is representative of my home.
Glad it was helpful!
What's worse; getting shot with a .223 or attending a Nickelback concert?