Vaccines: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the minuscule risks, but some parents still question their safety. John Oliver discusses why some people may still feel uncertainty about childhood vaccinations.
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I have autism, and whenever I hear that "vaccines cause autism so I'm not vaccinating my kids" argument, it's hurtful, because what they're actually saying, maybe without even realizing it, is: "I would rather have my child die and put hundreds of other people at risk, than have an autistic child"
Mathilde Bruhn I'm not autistic but it just boils my blood when people say vaccines cause autism. First because of what you just stated. Second because they act like it's a problem if their child is autistic. Their child is different, and they may need to learn how to manage autism, but there is nothing wrong with autistic people. I guarantee these people being anti-vax don't even realize they interact with autistic people every day.
I'm autistic and am currently in high school. If I ever hear a teacher bring up that link and say it's true, I'll prob just walk out
Riley Ranft the labels literally say they can kill you
there is a former family friend who is hardcore vegan and didn't vaccinate her kids. Her oldest son is definitely austistic. Sometimes I want to say, "This kid has been fed the healthiest non GMO food available his entire life, has never been vaccinated, and still has autism. Your argument is invalid." On another note, I hate that mom. She is a terrible person.
I know! Most people don't understand the consequences of not vaccinating their children. In the US, we rarely see kids die of infections that can be prevented by vaccination.
My mom didn’t vaccinate me, I am proud to say as of today I’m fully vaccinated. I’m 24.
That’s awesome! I’m glad you recognize the necessity of being vaccinated.
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Hell yeah. You go girl.
God bless herd immunity for making you stay alive all those years lol.
Good job, taking control over your health!
As someone on the Autism spectrum, I’m insulted that people would rather have their kids die slowly and painfully from preventable illnesses than have them be Autistic.
I once listened to a baby dying of whooping cough because of people like this. Aren't people stupid to think vaccines cause our autism!
I’m also autistic. People like this would rather have a dead kid than an autistic one, and that hurts, deeply.
@@kitmillionrosswhat's their problems with it anyway?
@@J.R8765
Tw: discussion of ableist autistic stereotypes in media
A lot of times, especially as it’s portrayed in the media a lot. It’s seen as a huge burden on everyone around. Like the autistic person is (on a good case with this stereotype) awkward and annoying af, or (on a really bad case of this stereotype) is a mentally challenged subhuman that makes the family miserable. So possibly to them, having the possibility of having an autistic child is probably them thinking they’re gonna have a burden on their shoulders their whole life. Like it’s a punishment and something affecting them and not the child. Especially socially since they don’t want the stigma of an autistic child or any disabled child. It’s really fucked and it’s just so ableist and it makes autism sound like a punishment and not just a different way a brain functions.
@@mythos2490 damn, fuck those people
I love how this is relevant again because human stupidity is an endless cycle of hell.
Yeah, it seems like human stupidity is the only thing we have an endless supply of.
Fucking _literally though._
Part of me is convinced that earth is actually a layer of hell and we are all dead and suffering for our sins
Tragically comical 🎭
Yea except those diseases and viruses actually have a high mortality rate unlike Covid
I was born in 1951. The measles vaccine wasn’t developed until 1963. I got measles as did many of my friends. One friend ended up with heart damage and another went deaf. So you bet my kids were vaccinated on schedule. For everything.
Everyone should read this testimony
@J Paterson How much of that is verifiably true? How much is based on what you think happened? My point being, has anyone truly investigated this to verify you have the facts right? My guess is no...
@J Paterson let's say it was the measles. you unfortunately were part of that 2-3% of children who still get measles after being vaccinated. sorry, that's better than the 97-98% chance of getting measles for children who didn't get vaccinated. plus vaccines also help reduce the severity of measles, so if you didn't get the vaccine, there could have been a chance that you went blind instead.
@J Paterson You're correct in your statements. I can verify this because I was born in 1950 and acquired measles. I remember being quarantined to my bedroom in the dark to protect my vision. I also remember polio and standing in line for the series of shots to protect me. I remember a friend being in an iron lung to keep him alive. You parents that don't vaccinate your children need to see the results of what happens when you don't protect your children from these diseases. I have seen it. Maybe you need to go back in time to see what the results are.
My mom was born in '55. When she was in the second grade she got German Measels followed immediately by mumps on both sides.. She barely survived so you can bet that I got vaccinated.
Why did the antivaxxers 3 year old kid start crying?
Mid-life crisis.
Mat Deering actually a midlife crisis would be 1.5 years old everyone knows polio kill at exactly 3 😂
That's the most horrible joke ever. I'm impressed XO
Oof
Am I allowed to laugh at this joke? It kinda sounds inappropriate to laugh at this but I can't help it!
jeff sweet wtf
So many talk shows age like milk but Oliver consistently ages like wine
This is a really good point. His Trump segments especially look good in retrospect
Milk turns to kefir when it ages, and then it tastes even better.
@@nikajinpusno9563 spoiled milk is not kefir, lmao.
@@justinhamilton8647 it essentially is
This isn’t a talk show
When I was in elementary school, a new kid came to our class. We were all told in class his name, where he came from, and what he was going through. He was fighting an aggressive leukemia, and in order to keep him healthy and allowed to play and work along side with us, we had to wear paper masks and wash our hands according to the bell (she had an alarm clock set on her desk for it). If we did not feel well, tell our parents before coming to school, and if we had a fever, arrangements would be made if we were unable to stay home. This was also sent home and had to be signed by our parents and at Open House it was re-explained to everyone at once so we all understood. Everybody followed the rules. He stayed healthy (and beat it, he is 38 years old today). Nobody complained. End of story.
What the hell happened to common decency in the USA?
I think erosion of empathy and community as cultural values with the increasing entitlement and self-centeredness of those reassured and validated by (often but not always online) echo-chambers happened. The wave of xenophobic jingoism that never fully receded following the events of September 11th and increasing political extremism (mostly on one side, lets be honest) and modern social media's ability to filter out dissenting voices when socializing sort of made it inevitable. Or it could be the naturally de-empathizing effects of late-stage capitalism and constant access to crushing news, meaning empathy for other people will swiftly drain and eventually break you if you don't just sort of emotionally shut off after a certain point. Maybe it's the endless stream of extremist, "we're always under attack," "It's Us vs Them," news that a large portion of the country is constantly seeing? It could have been the heartbreaking realization that if the for-sure-not-Nazi's 'hypothetically' started coming for minorities in our "better, modern, free country" fewer of the people we knew and believed in would have stood up and fought and more would have sold out their minority neighbors than we ever wanted to believe. Maybe it's all of them?
It's probably all of them.
A lot of things happened to common decency in the US. It's almost a surprise we don't have open and proud Neo-Nazi rallies openly in the streets more often. We've already gotten really into lynchings again though, so give it some time.
There is much less sense of “ for the greater good”
Individualism tends to make everyone more selfish over time. Look at all the billionaires in the country, while millions in poverty and suffering.
“Freedom”
Unfortunately, I don’t think “common” decency is all that common.
I remember my science teacher used to wear a shirt that said:
Got Polio? Me neither. Thanks science!
Your teacher mustn't have been a fan of punctuation.
Strange, I don't have polio neither and I'm even not vaccinated!
@@ExperiencedGhost damn you're lucky
@@americantacos7618 Don't worry they will be dead before they can make that mistake with there own kids.
they changed the diagnostic criteria and polio vanished (into AFP) thereby providing the "scientific" basis for all the vaccines under the sun.
Kid: "When I grow up -"
Anti-vaxx parent: *"Slow down there buckaroo"*
Samovar maker I feel so horrible for laughing out loud at this. Bravo 👏🏽
I only had 2 vaccines and somehow I grew up. Maybe if I had the 90 they give kids now, I'd be taller or something.
@@waynewhite4997 I've never heard of anyone who ever got close to 90 vaccines. Fear-inducing exaggeration.
2 was enough for you. Great. Honestly, 0 vaccines can be enough if everyone else around you is fully vaccinated and if the diseases that you aren't vaccinated against don't come anywhere near you. This is why unvaccinated people are called free-riders in herd immunity. However, vaccine-preventable diseases do still arise, meaning that unvaccinated people can contract them, get sick from them and spread them to other unvaccinated people (mostly infants who are too young to be vaccinated or people who are allergic to vaccines - these are really the only acceptable cases for not vaccinating). But I think you know all this. Basically, you're either not unlucky or you can thank your two vaccines.
Brilliant dark comedy
@Samovar maker It is actually 74 mandated shots. Many of these are repeat doses or boosters for the same vaccine. So, it's 16 vaccines and 74 shots. 31 shots are mandated by age 18 months. A Hep B shot is mandated at birth. These dramatic changes, to the schedule, were the result of the vaccine manufacturers exempting themselves from lawsuits in 1986 with the passage of the Vaccine Act. Vaccines are extremely profitable and all lawsuits are paid out by the taxpayers. So, the schedule just keeps growing. Was Scarlett Fever preventable if we used vaccines? We will never know. It was eradicated despite there never being a vaccine for it. I'm guessing the Amish are all very lucky. If you took the time to really look into this, you would realize that you are blindly defending Merck with very little information. That behavior is typical of people who belong to a religious cult.
"Tiny children are not horses." Well fk, I'm now overwhelmed by the monumental task of having to dismantle my entire tiny kid racing operation..
I mean it'll still work, change the carrot stick with an iphone at the finish line
Throw a ball in, call it ball...ball. And you’ll be fine.
Tiny children are not horses. True or false on Trump’s annual dementia test at the White House
🤣🤣🤣
Damn. Now I have to cancel my order of child-sized horseshoes.
"I don't know who to ask."
YOUR PEDIATRICIAN!!! THE PERSON WHO WENT TO FOUR YEARS OF COLLEGE AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THEN THREE YEARS OF RESIDENCY SPECIFICALLY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE THIS!!!!!!
As an Autistic person:
Do you know how horrible it is to constantly be told that people would rather have their baby die than be autistic? Autism is not a broken brain it is a different one.
Autistic people are actually way smarter in so many fields than othere. So many famous and renowned people are successful qnd recognized on their fields of expertise
@@antoniosantos9669 I always say "The advantage of autism is that we are right about most things that we talk about (or else we wouldn't be talking about them.)"
"The disadvantage? Almost nobody listens to us."
An autistic brain is so much more analytical than a typical brain could ever be. Autism is an evolutionary step, not a disability or something you should take pitty on. Sure, evolution has kinks to work out... like with my son who is autistic, epileptic, adhd, non-verbal, intellectually delayed... but otherwise he is happy, healthy, and makes connections with the world that completely blow my mind.
You cannot change without changing the way you think and the autistic brain thinks differently... let that sink in.
Lack of vaccinations doesnt kill people fool lmao
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21623535/
I didn't like the remarks about fish. Many of them are actually schooled.
Looooool. That comment caught me off guard and made coffee come out my nose. Well played sir.
Oscar Amador .....God bless you sir! ;D
Yes and some will argue they've just been schooled again
you sir have won the internet today. Bless you.
I'm angry at how clever that joke is!
Just a reminder that we don't need a "cure" for autism.
there is, it's called abortion 🤣😎
THANK YOU!
People are already divergent
It was never the needle, it was always antibiotics.
Thank you!
"Tiny children are not horses."
Someone might want to tell the Ivermectin crowd that.
This horse reference did not age well😂
Lmao good one
Don’t tell them. Let em learn the hard way
The one effective against covid is the human form given for parasitic infections. For some reason, that important point is left out of many articles
@@northtxhomes. First, the articles mention that the Ivermectin people are using is DOSED for horses. You need a prescription to get a dose designed for humans so these people have been using what they can get their hands on, livestock meds. Second, Ivermectin has NOT been proven to be effective against COVID so a news source should not report it as such.
Man, today was a good day! Woke up, didn't get polio, didn't contract measles, didn't die of an easily preventable disease. SO LIT!
Madison Pheonix then commuted suicide
Madison Pheonix plays ice cube song today was a good day
Same. I do have autism, though. It's not that bad, really.
Fresh air you can’t cure autism.... how stupid are you?
Fresh air -- stop lying. autism is a neurological condition, you cannot cure it, certainly not with diet and "woo" you seem to love. I wonder - you don't trust "pharma" because they make money, but you trust vitamin-sellers, "detoxing" treatment sellers, as well as homeopaths? Do you know that they make money too? A lot more than "big pharma" because "big pharma" needs to prove treatments work and get FDA approval, homeopaths can just claim it works and idiots like you fall for it. Yet, you believe them. BTW - do you know that Wakefield made millions from his fraud and lies?
Two things never get old:
- Dark humour
- Children of Anti-vaxxers
Damn, well to be fair I didn’t expect to live past 35 anyway so I guess that second point is true.
Dark humour is like food. Not everyone gets it!
Best comment EVER!!!! Love it!
Jokes about unvaccinated kids never got old, just like the kids.
@NSA I think that's the best one of the three anti-vaxx ones in this thread
In an amazing ironic twist, my parents didn't give me the MMR when I was a kid (they were worried about crohns disease mostly) and yet I still ended up with autism lmao
A real 4D chess move by you
Hahaha yeah same! I still make fun of my parents because of this!
@@bodowartke95 ^^
lmao facts
My grandma brings up her friend from childhood who contracted polio, and always expresses how lucky she and her sisters were that they never caught it. She can't understand vaccine hesitancy when it saved so many lives.
See what Granny thinks of the article "More polio cases now caused by v than by wild virus" by ABC News
My grandmother had polio as a child. Was on crutches for the rest of her life. She was an amazing women. I had no doubts protecting my child and getting her vaccinated.
@@kevinsheldrick917I think what his comment is saying is that his grandma can’t understand why people are hesitant to get vaccinated, because from her perspective they are incredible things that save many lives
Well, sport, granny would probably say, “Wow, at its peak, polio was sickened, often permanently disabled, and even killed over 58,000 kids a year. Having LITERALLY 1 or 2 cases of polio a year, or none, out of millions of vaccines given sucks but is so, so much better than the alternative. And since people are less likely to get vaccine-derived polio in areas with more robust polio vaccination, all the more reason for everyone to be vaccinated.”
Because granny would be a sane adult and not a selfish, ignorant, child-like anti-vaxxer.
@@franktheexpertstrenchclub9025The issue with polio is that most cases are asymptomatic, and when one case of symptomatic polio appears that means that there are approximately 200 asymptomatic cases, making it spread fast.
Okay, so my English class is very divided. The kids in there are either fairly liberal or fairly conservative, so it is RARE that we agree on anything.
When our teacher mentioned that she didn't vaccinate her kid, we all united to make fun of her and it was amazing.
Has she changed her mind?
Good. I like to think there are some subjects that transcended political differences, and wanting kids to survive is one of them.
I'm curious as to what some of the jokes were 🤔
@@meganstewart2832 My brother loves to date antivax women. If an accident happens, he only has to pay child support for 4 years instead of 18.
Why was the unvaccinated toddler crying? Mid life crisis.
She shouldn't be trusted to teach children.
The reason more people are autistic is because 30 years ago we didn't know what autism was.
LogidodoPlyz and because fifty years ago we just threw them in a padded cell in a straight jacket.
Not only that but people have kids at older ages now, which is literally proven to have a direct link with neurological disorders
Exactly, you were just the odd person 50 years ago. I recall the Tumblr post where it said that mothers 500 years ago who thought that faes stole their children in the night and replaced them with their own children were really just autistic, it's just we didn't know what autism was 😭 or you were just thought of as "well, Jeb's a little special and he don't like to talk much, but he gets his chores done so he's a good boy" basically 😭
My whole thing with the autism argument is would you rather have a kid with autism or a kid who's dead? There is a correct answer and if you get it wrong you don't deserve to be a parent
@@danasmall6104 I know someone who is Autistic and he is a really good person and loves things. He has trouble with some things, but he's at least alive and having a happy life.
I believe there was a myth in japan that mental disorders of all kinds were the results of being possessed by yokai or foxes.
As an autistic adult, I find it offensive that so many parents would rather a dead child than a child like me
I have autism. Sure it makes some aspects of life more difficult for me and others need more support than I do but it isn’t something that can be “prevented.” Parents shouldn’t blame themselves or anything else for it. They should love and support their child unconditionally to make sure they have a happy and healthy life.
But then again, parents are most likely neurotypical and can't figure out what is the reason for ther bad feelings and stress, so the kid is the punching bag of ther inability.
To my expirience, the worst of autism is that you're magnetic for peoples stress, misbehave, nonsense and anger, which forms your life to be that of a solitary surviver in the jungle under constant threat.
@nikitatarsov5172 I mean autism has a genetic component, so I wouldn't be so sure the parents are neurotypical, but it does go off that deep rooted fear for perfect nuclear families of having a "weird" kid. Anything mental or lifelong is a death sentence for these people
Ah, fictional propaganda.. these days 😢❤
OMG I can't believe John Oliver is anti-fish. It just sickens me that this kind of prejudice appears on HBO still.
Kurtis Maynard +
you should see what he said about birds.
+
Kurtis Maynard as he should #makeameticabreathagain
#FishLivesMatter
I’m autistic and I can tell you that it’s better than being dead, deaf or blind (I’m just blind to social cues😄) (That is not to say that deaf/blind people are any lesser than others, I MEAN NO OFFENCE)
Saaaaaammmmmmeeeeeeeeee
Quentin Brown Yep, I’ve got 2 gorgeous kids and even if there was a correlation, which of course there isn’t, why are they more scared of autism than death??!! It’s ridiculous and I also find it offensive.
I have Asperger's syndrome and while it can be difficult, I prefer that over being dead. =)
My sister is autistic and legally blind and would prefer restored sight over erased autism every time
Being on the autism spectrum is, as you say, Quentin, far superior to dead, blind or deaf. Add to that the fact that there is no --ZERO-- proof of any link between autism and vaccines.
For those who don't know, hbomberguy did a really great video about Andrew Wakefield. But for those who don't wanna watch a video that's 2 hours long, here's a very brief summary:
There was a lawyer who wanted to sue the government and vaccine manufacturers on the behalf of one mother because there could have been lots of money in it. The lawyer hired Wakefield to find a link between autism and MMR. Of the 12 children in the study, not only did he lie about when the autism symptoms first presented, but some of the children didn't even have autism. He made up much of the info in the report. He blamed the measles in the MMR vaccine, and at the same time he began developing an alternative measles vaccine, which would have made him lots of money if people suddenly wanted it. He's a disgusting man who lied to hurt people.
don't forget to add that during his fraudulent investigation into whether the MMR vaccine was causing autism, he was giving very young children colonoscopies that even for adults is a rather risky procedure. but multiple children suffered from punctured and bruised intestines as a result of this procedure which, if it needs to be remembered, was ENTIRELY FRAUDULENT FROM THE START. Those children suffered from severe medical abuse, all so some scumsucking lawyer and a dirtbag doctor could try to steal taxpayer and investor money to their hearts' content. and unfortunately, Andrew Wakefield still landed with a golden parachute because he lives in a gigantic mansion as he peddles low-grade conspiracy theories related to vaccines, and speaks regularly at conspiracy conventions with such high-falutin topics like "bigfoot is real."
He also committed child abuse on several occasions in order to find proof of the disease he was trying to make up.
I was wondering why someone would intentionally fuck with the data. Absolutely vile man.
I have two daughters; the younger is autistic. When the HPV vaccine became available, I overheard them discussing whether or not they wanted to get it (I was strongly encouraging it.) Finally, the younger one deadpanned: “I’ll go for it. What have I got to lose?”
After a beat, the two of them fell out laughing; they both ended up fully vaxxed.
i like that kids logic
Should you feed your children? I mean there's so much information out there, and where can you find a truly unbiased source?
According to the food industry, you should feed your children. What a surprise.
@@danielschroedinger2090 according to the anti-food industry. Nothing, they all died about a week ago from starvation. What a surprise
F
Hell no, I don't have any. Feeding imaginary children outside of improv class might get me sectioned.
What a stupid comparison lol very child like
So what I got from this is that John Oliver has no proof that he doesn't live alone surrounded by jars that he can't open. We're on to you Oliver
Ryan Jacobs
Bet you they're olive jars. He is John, the Oliver.
Ryan Jacobs - Well he has that adorable baby photo. Which at the very least proves he lives with a baby, surrounded by jars neither one of them can open.
Ryan Jacobs I saw a picture of him sitting around a whole bunch of unopened jars. That's proof enough for me.
Well 26:46 is kind of a proof, i guess?
so i scrolled down to check comments right as he said that line, and read your post while he said it. It was uncanny.
I received a bone marrow transplant and had to have all my vaccines over again. I also wouldn’t have been able to go back to school without herd immunity. I am beyond grateful for the science that has kept me healthy!
I had a Stem cell transplant and I actually didn't have to get my MMR again but my daughter had to wait on her 4 year old shots until my immune system recovered, I was very grateful for herd immunity for our family.
The "not horse" part has aged like fine wine 🤣🤣🤣
Oh my gosh ☠
My brother was fully vaccinated by my step father from day one and has had maybe a dozen minor illnesses and has never been hospitalised. I on the other hand was never vaccinated, I was a lotus birth and I was breastfed till I was four, I've had tonsilitis, 2 lung infections(because my mother refused to believe that I needed antibiotics), chicken pox, endometriosis, and a dozen major issues over the years, including being hospitalised as a 2yo baby because I got a cut that my mother never cleaned or managed because it "had to heal naturally" and it turned into a major infection that almost killed me.
Vaccinate your damn kids.
Lily Moore one more time for the antivaxxers in the back!
Wait... As a totally pro vaccine person who is genuinely curious, do we vaccinate for chicken pox now instead of making our 5 year old kids play with other kids who have chicken pox so we don't get it when we're older even though apparently after some time shingles can come up anyway???
Ash because
1. Chicken pox is ridiculously contagious
2. Shingles usually only pops up after you’ve had chicken pox in the past, there are some cases where you could develop one and not the other, but that’s up to how you’re exposed.
The simple answer is vaccinate for chicken pox and tell people who have chicken pox or shingles to see a doctor and try to keep others unexposed. :)
Yes we vaccinate because it guarantees(99% of the time anyway) that the child is immune. My sisters had chicken pox when they were 7 and 3, I, despite hanging around with them and sharing a bunk bed, didn't get chicken pox until i was 18 looking after my partners nephew who had it - and my symptoms as an 18yo were way worse than my sisters(I almost wound up in hospital because I couldn't breathe). Chicken pox is way worse for adults that children and far more dangerous.
Judith Bellantoni Why even go to the doctor if you don't want to vaccinate? You believe in medicine when it benefits you. You legit are ignoring medicinal opinions 90 percent of the time, but think antibiotics are okay for when you have ouchies. Hopefully your kids ouchies aren't the ones that result in long hospital stays because the way herds are set up today especially in some cities your kids are bound to get something that results in a hospital stay if you live around people with the same ideas as you.
Didn't get polio again today! SO LIT!
Akseer Khan you are so lucky just yesterday I was wearing a yellow polio.
galetaf eid Mubarak to you too
But, Akseer... you should be alarmed by the sudden absence of spiders.
eid Mubarak
I saw this comment before I watched the video and I thought you were an idiot
My son was immunocompromised after having Kawasaki Disease at 9 yrs old. One of the scariest things about it was having to trust herd immunity. He couldn’t have any vaccinations for a year and having to send him back to school was terrifying.
Wow, that was an emotional roller coaster and that's why vaccines need to be required across the board unless someone has a valid medical reason.
Won’t the motorcycle brand have to change name
Him cracking up at his own fish rant kills me every time 😂
Same! Makes me laugh as much as the rant itself 😁
I find it hilarious that John Oliver calls the human body a "Carnival of Horrors", and in the episode of Rick and Morty he guest starred in, he was a guy who ran a carnival inside the human body.
Wait, he was in the episode?! As the doctor within the body?!
Awesome bit of trivia, that!
Pirates of the Pancreas
"WAAITTT! IT'S OKEY NEVERMIND I WANTED TO SACRIFICE MYSELF ANYWAAYYYY"
+Zoe Clara That show didn't look interesting to me and the art style didn't appeal to me either but I'm a fan of John Oliver so now I might have to check it out.
Also, can we talk about how much anti-vaccine rhetoric stigmatizes the lives of people with autism?
Absolutely. Like, let's say for the sake of argument that vaccines DO cause autism (they don't, but let's say they do)... if I ever have a kid, I would much rather they have autism than die from a preventable disease.
@@iantkach6640 I don't think just anybody could easily do the same reasoning, but I definitely support ditching this stigma just for the fact that autism is not a disease
@@iantkach6640 ok let me first say that as a man with a mild form of autism I appreciate the sentiment you and the lady who replied to you have said. Second I agree completely. What a lot of people tend to forget is autism isn’t something you can CATCH. It’s something you’re BORN with. But more than that as you’ve mentioned the stigma that comes with being autistic. There’s nothing wrong with autism
autism is an insanely broad term to begin with. At any rate, people with autism who are also very aware (like me) will have the stigma at any rate: Being different is what we humans don't like. That's the basis of all of these problems, like racism, sexism, etc. A instinctive need for conformity, to a certain extent (because bigger is often better). It is of all times - it forms a huge part of evolution. Birds etc. toss the weak out of their nest. Women only mate with the prettiest, strongest (or to are just taken by the most muscular...). Most of nature wouldn't allow autists to live.
All my life I have felt like a weirdo. Highly intelligent, emotionally very different and unable to take in a lot at once. It's baffling to others. And I'm rarely able to connect.
My point being, I couldn't care less about this so called stigmatization they seem to cause. They are nutters, living besides reality, but they should be allowed to do so... Otherwise you go towards fascism. Educate people. Don't feel offended by everything. For a lot of people, I'm too logical, I talk too much, I'm boring. So be it.
That shouldn't be such a bother to people. The fact that I like blue, doesn't mean people who like red and hate blue are 'wrong'. Unless they attack me over it. But... this is basically why people have fought wars all throughout history. 'Stigmatized' by the fact that some people like red, while I like blue.
So no, please don't talk about it. At least, not in a direct manner. Growing a spine will help a lot in life, it is made up out of small victories and huge defeats. Focus on the small victories. Not on trivial pursuits. People won't ever all get along, unless, like said, you force them. And as you can see, divided we fall. Education helps a lot... Also on autism. In most cases it isn't that bad, but I wouldn't want my child to be like me at all. My life has emotionally been very hard to deal with for me and I don't feel a lot of pleasure in life itself. I like simple things though (painting, drawing, sculpting - mostly creating something visually pleasing relaxes me. Nearly everything else in life sort of upsets me). But I can get very frustrated over seemingly small things - which I'm aware of (with, or without society). So the stigma is there at any rate. The things I do to myself, emotionally, are way harder than any stigma. Because my instinct too, wants me to be normal. But I am not - that is very apparent to me and it has been ever since I was very little: I don't act like the others.
I'm 35 and very, very alone. Safe for one other autist I know - who is a lot like me. Still feels like we're alone together...
Very long point short (I tend to do that...): it's not that weird people don't want that for their children... Just like being gay is ok, but can be very hard as well. I'd rather have a straight child than a gay child, though I'd love both equally. It's not about that... Because a lot of people want to be 'normal', like instinct prescribes. Children start mocking others around 5-8 years old, when they notice these differences in themselves and others. This is also why I've known since forever that I'm different - and no one could tell me why. This proces also builds character and it creates identity... It's not something you can destroy, or do without.
I sort of hope you don't appreciate my comment, just to rub it in. That tells you something about me ;)
@@iantkach6640 this is also true, though. I've been vaccinated at any rate - in Febuary - cause I'm a health worker. I see many autists there (just not like me, like said, autism is a very wide term)... These people work to help others because they know how hard life can be and it makes them feel good, gives purpose. So no autism isn't all that bad... Still, I can imagine people would rather do without when given the choice ;)
Rewatching this during the 'debate' about COVID vaccines and masks.. and continuing to beat my head against the wall over people who still try to find excuses on all this. If you are medically able, get your vaccines, and if you are able, wear your mask during a pandemic. And if you can't get your shot or wear a mask, there are services available so you can stay home and not keep this pandemic going!
I know oh my god. I'm trying to be empathetic, understanding and kind.m...But as ICUs in Quebec are overflowing and patients have to be denied non-urgent care because there's just too much work, I just want to tell the anti-vaxx to go f*ck themselves. And if they get really, really sick from covid, they should stay home and die at home if they don't trust science and doctors. Ughhhhhh. But this isn't the solution.
Lord, the very second the HPV vaccine became available, my mother called and made a doctor's appointment for literally as soon as I was eligible for it. I think I got it on my 11th birthday.
HPV can cause a bunch of cancers, multiple of which run in my family. So, it was super important that I get the thing that means I can't get the thing that causes a bunch of cancers.
Same here.
These doctors spend at least four years in undergrad, at least four years in med school, and three years minimum in residency plus more if they want to specialize. But hey, Karen spent fifteen minutes on Google so I guess she knows what's best for her kids.
This is about vaccines, no doctor is wrong about vaccines.
Uh- Maybe you NEED that shot because you could be the ONE person in the entire country that gets the virus by being a dumbass
I've had 6 vaccines in a day, most of my school had 6 vaccines in a day, the only person getting seizures has a condition and doctors should know how to handle that
TheBookWorm1718 hm... that's interesting. I wonder why nobody is getting that disease? really weird. oh right, it's because of the fucking VACCINES. use your head.
TheBookWorm1718 epilepsy is a neurological disorder that can be there from birth or from physical trauma to the brain (like after an accident) you dumb fuck
@TheBookWorm1718 Who is paying you, corporate shill of the devil? The power of non-fuckery compels you!
Thumbs up if you're autistic and are glad you didn't die from any horrible childhood diseases.
Thumbs up if you are autistic but can´t speak, can´t read, can´t write, surely can´t create an account on CZcams and can´t express your opinion...and are in constant pain. Woops! Sorry, those kind of people with autism can´t take part in an internet discussion and definitely can´t express how happy they are to be autistic. It´s a spectrum disorder..REMEMBER...So please show some empathy for those with autism that are in the moderate to severe part of the continuum.
Wow fuck off with your ableism please. Being nonverbal does not equate to being unable to communicate. The internet has helped a ton of nonverbal autistics express their voices in ways not requiring verbal communication. Also functioning labels are awful and you should look up stuff written by autistic people all across the spectrum cuz I don't have the spoons nor the time to educate every ignorant person.
Anyway love my autistic self gonna be extra autistic today out of spite (and spent energy on dealing with stuff like this). Will I ever live alone? Probably not! I can still be happy and alive as an autistic adult (who's not gonna get killed by measles cuz my mother was smart and got me all vaccines she could).
Do you not know anything about autism? It's great that there are a lot of autistic people in this world who don't have it extremely bad and have ways of communication and living a normal life, but unfortunately that's not the case for everyone. My oldest brother has autism. He cannot speak, he doesn't know how to use a keyboard or the internet, and he has no way of communicating with us. He can't even point at something and tell us what he wants. He's almost 30 years old, and he spends his afternoons at a daycare sitting in a car and eating lunch, then he comes home, walks around then goes to sleep. He can't tell us if he is in pain, if he's bored, or anything for that matter. He can't take a shower on his own, he doesn't know how to brush his teeth or take a shower. He can't warm up food for himself. Thank god he can at least walk around on his own. He can not take care of himself. Just because you were fortunate to not be so far on the spectrum, doesn't mean nobody is. Please don't disregard my brother. He exists too.
Jade Bass
Okay so, first off, I'm going to refer you to my comment thread on this video, because I've said a lot.
m.czcams.com/video/7VG_s2PCH_c/video.html&lc=z13pxlbzypqmzvc1t22wyf14uzqodxiin04
Now then. Why the everloving fuck do you think you have the right to speak about autism more than an autistic person? If your brother has little means to communicate due to not getting alternative options in the early stages of life to aid in language development, well, that's the fault of people who went "oh he can't speak, guess we give up hope of him having any language skills." There's a lot more understanding and resources these days (but still not enough of wither) whether aac or not. Also sign language? Is great for nonverbal people if they get it early in life.
For autistic people, or communication is deemed behavior that needs to be fixed, and I've dealt with so many ableist parents and relatives of autistic folx, so ecuse me if I'm making assumptions on things based on what I've unfortunately seen so often, but really, I doubt anyone who says their autistic relative has no way of communicating. Usually it's either a lack of attempt on the allistic side, failing to understand how we work or failing to give alternative methods.
You like giving away deeply personal info about your brother though, huh? Did you get a "hey by the way you can totally use my private health and hygiene issues to berate other autistic people online for all the world to see" from him?
You're using your brother as an object to gain "argument points" and to try and discredit an autistic person who experiences life more like your brother than you yourself do. You treat him as a way to gain pity and sympathy for yourself and to make a statement that you know better than an autistic person what being autistic is like. You are shouting over the voices of autistic people to drown us out because you'd rather do that than reflect on how you've acted, here and to your brother. If you can't (metaphorically) hear us, then you don't have to admit to any mistakes and ableism, right?
Me arguing for respect for autistic people includes /all/ of us. Society is fucked up, people are flawed, and a different way of existing is seen as bad. Fixing your brother is impossible, and he doesn't need fixing, he needs respect, accessibility, aid, and to be seen as just as human and worthy of life as anyone else, because it's a right, no matter what.
I'm disabled because I'm autistic. I'm in college, but I also barely manage a shower once a week, and I live with my grandma. She went on a vacation and I ate about 12 meals total over 7 days (one bagel each day, usually a mid-day microwaved meal, and snack junk food). I have to stim, rock back and forth and make noises and flap my hands and bury myself under a weighted blanket, because I need that. I've gone nonverbal (and if I knew asl as a kid I'd only be semi-verbal now and I wish that was how it had been). But I'm happy, I have special interests and stimming can be fun and even if I never live alone I can still be happy. I deserve to live and enjoy my life no matter what I can and can't do.
(I could've been nice, danced around your feelings and family life, but fuck that. More people need to outright hear that they've fucked up, maybe it'll help shatter your distorted world view if I get to be blunt and don't pretend I care more than I really do for a random ableist asshole in the replies of a youtube vid.)
First of all, why do people in the higher functioning part of the spectrum tend to discredit the family members/caregivers of people who are extremly autistic? It seems like they have some sort of right to do so just because they are autistic and that is not fair.
On that basis, you don´t know what being a parent of a severely autistic child is like. Just because you are autistic and go to college doesn't give you the right to discredit Jade Bass' testimony.
I am sure his family have had it pretty bad.
The thought in every autism parent´s head (even in your grandmother's I imagine) ever since they got the diagnosis is "what will happen to this child, the day that I pass away?"
Do you think that living with that thought is easy?
You mention that some autistic kids do not begin to thrive because their caregivers did not know how to provide the proper treatment. As far as I know, there is no protocol on how to treat an autistic child. Not all autistic children are the same. If you have seen one autistic child, you have seen one autistic child. Learning how to seek the right treatments and the right professionals can be a challenge. Not all children react the same to the same treatments.
So please don't look down on Jade Bass' comment.
Just because he is not autistic does not mean he does not care or worry for his brother.
I am sure that there are alot of autistic people who think that autism sucks.
And you seem pretty angry, why?
I love that he talks about his own child at the very end.
I feel like he wanted an excuse to show off his adorable baby, and I'm all for it!
@@mushu_beardie2556 ikr!!! And i was amazed by how LITTLE that boy was! John's face looked huge in comparison
@@mushu_beardie2556Yeah my guess both.
Me too and now he has a little brother. Hope John and Kate remind them it’s important to be funny smart and compassionate.
3:57 Imagine back when only 1% of parents didn't vaccinate their kids. Those were the days...
There are two things that just never get old:
Jokes about anti-vaxers and the children of anti-vaxers
Still laughing two minutes later. I might need to borrow this joke pls.
Peter McSweeney yes you will be punished greatly if you say this joke without permission and he will know because he is omnipotent
Underrated comment.
oh damn
This comment is Gold
As an autistic person, my parents freaked out and worried a lot when they found out about the potential "link" between autism and vaccines. To which I responded:
A. Dad, you are also autistic. That's where I got it from. Not the medicine that saves people's lives.
B. I'm honestly happy to be autistic. It lets me see the world in a way that not many people can, and it's beautiful.
C. I'd much rather be autistic than dead, and I'm pretty sure that most people would agree. Individuals with high functioning autism can lead full and happy lives. Individuals who get these illnesses that we vaccinate for can be crippled for life, if not killed by those illnesses. I understand that low functioning autism is a whole different beast, but I'm betting that most of them still want to live, and, if not, there are ways to end their lives that don't put other people at risk.
And, after much investigation, D. The scientific community agrees as universally as is possible that there is no link.
I think that many parents who have grown up themselves in a vaccinated society, without the plagues that have devastated populations throughout history, think that those plagues entail a light fever, a stuffy nose, and a few days outside of school, since that's all they've ever experienced (or at least, all that they remember). The life-threatening reality of those illnesses is so distant that they cannot comprehend it, unless something like what happened in Minnesota happens to them, and then it becomes all too real. They don't understand the deadly risk of these illnesses, and so "autism" (a condition that can be very difficult to understand) seems much scarier than something with a cute name like "measles", even though Autism, even in extreme cases, very rarely leads to serious injury or death, while measles can easily have serious and permanent complications. But the best part is, they don't even need to make a choice, since *vaccines don't cause autism.*
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I remember going to the movie theater with one of my friends when I was in high school. We couldn’t see the matinée because I had a doctor’s appointment to get some vaccines and my mom told me not to tell my friend why we had to see that movie later and reschedule because his parents were anti vax and didn’t want to ruin our friendship. Mom was like, “if you tell him, his parents may make sure you never ever see your best friend ever again.” And I didn’t tell and I sobbed for a while because I was scared of losing my best friend in the whole world because I was immunized. That’s how crazy that 1% of people are.
After the deep-dive that Hbomberguy did regarding Wakefield, John's practically pouring praise onto him. Wakefield is a man who, when hired by a lawmaker hoping to profit from vaccinations, abused children, altered findings to claim an apparent connection between autism and an intestinal disorder after patenting his own measles vaccine that was so flawed, it would never have passed testing. Given the resources to further expand upon his findings, he waffed it, because he knew he could not replicate his study under strict scrutiny.
When a reporter, Brian Deer, investigated, Wakefield tried to silence him in a lawsuit, then dropped it when the judge ruled that Deer would have full, unredacted entry into Wakefield's notes and findings. This was a man that was PRO vaccine wanting to make money, now stuck with an ANTI vaccine audience to survive and remain relevant, even appearing on Infowars, a man who also makes up things in order to make money.
Yeah, looking back after H. Bomberguy’s recent video about this, I wish John had gone more in depth about Wakefield and his “study” and just how flawed and bad it really was.
to be fair to john.... he's gotta keep it to less than 30 min.
He didn't have nearly enough time to dive into the Wakefield/British antivax movement so he just covered the basics, which are: Wakefield is a dumb shithead and his medical license was taken due to that and he got a lot of people killed via misinformation.
@@mortuos557Exactly. Also Oliver's team only has a week to research things, not years.
Fact: anti vaxx memes have lasted longer than non vaccinated children
ironically its the vaxxers who actually rely on memes to push their products. then they accuse antivaxxers of what they do themselves. Same with the bots story. it is actually vaxxers who have a huge army of bots and trolls all over the web.
VERBALMILITIA Columbus didn’t even set foot on the American mainland
VERBALMILITIA dude.... you ok? You posted unintelligible nonsense on like every top comment here.. you clearly need help..
VERBALMILITIA but... that’s literally what history says. People died in their 40s/50s all the time because of terrible medical care, and now most countries have a life expectancy of 70-80. Childhood disease rates have DRAMATICALLY fallen, due to vaccines for measles and polio. Go look at any CDC report on vaccine effectiveness. Actually go take a basic biology class again, sounds like you need a refresher 😉
@VERBALMILITIA Stop wasting peoples time with your overly biased viewpoint
the whole anti-vaxxer movement is basically a bunch of peoole saying "i can medicine better than doctors"
more like: "i can science better than scientists, these unnatural chemicals sound scary! better not vaccinate."
many american movements can be summed up as 'you are not the boss of me! this other person who is saying things I like is!'
"I've got WebMD! I don't need no doctors with their fancy medicine degrees, I can cure myself!"
IT'S SAYING THAT BILL GATES AND THE PHARM COMPANIES DO NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART. AND IF THE DOCTORS STEP OUT OF LINE AND POINT OUT THE DANGERS OF VACCINES, THEY PULL THEIR CARD. STRAP UP FOR THE CULLING, THE VACCINATORS WANT US ALL DEAD
Feel the power of capslock!
The question I usually ask myself is:
Why the hell would the government/companies want to make my child sick? Just vaccinate your damn kids.
"People lined up for the polio shot like it was an iPhone!" Oh boy...do I have news for John!
Mom: "I don't know who to listen to"
Everyone: "The pediatrician."
Except, not even doctors are unbiased. Everyone has their biases and this extends to professionals like doctors. Add the usual financial chumminess with big pharma corporations, then you get a 100% compromised healthcare system with no real point to it other than to profit off medication advertising, and off their patients' suffering. Telling people who live in fascist countries like the U.S. to "Ask/listen to a doctor", is like telling a christian god isn't real. They've asked/listened to those doctors and those doctors might've told them the same things those unbiased online sources told them because whoever's paying the doctor in question might not be unbiased themselves. Healthcare in the United States has become about advertising solutions to problems--the solutions being something that these doctors have read about online or heard from the big pharma corps who pay them that may sometimes have a 50/50% chance of actual success than giving someone solutions off fact-based knowledge that they've received from years of either doing their own studies or, looking for other fact-based studies done by other physicians to make an educated decision.
And, this also brings up a great side point: *there's no such thing as an unbiased source anymore.*
@@DoctorWhoKage while doctors arent 100% unbiased source (nothing is) they are the best we have, but if you doubt what your doc says you can always consider consultomg another ,medical professional
@@DoctorWhoKage still doesn't change anything. Parents should listen to the pediatrician. If you feel the doctor is lying, change pediatrician... and vaccines are not the same as the experimental treatments for something that might have a 50% chance of being cured. Vaccines work.
Dr. Kira oh stop it. From the moment you are born as something you ARE biased because none of us are omnipotent and omniscient gods whose point of view is unlimited and infinite. Doctors have studied medicine for decade. You’re telling me you wouldn’t go to the emergency room because the doctor might be biased? I’ve heard a lot of stupid arguments but this « doctors are biased » is literally the worst, because it’s so effortless. Trust centuries of scientific research that led to our current modern knowledge rather than your intuition, no matter how great you think it might be.
How is it worse to have an autistic child compared to a dead one?
MotherEric As someone with autism, I can say I'm very happy to be alive. That should answer the question
deviater798 How do you feel when people blame your condition on a shot?
deviater798 No, because its not about the person with the condition. Its about the parent of this person who has to change his/her lifestyle because an autistic child (depending on the type and severity) can require a large amount of care
I am so frustrated because nobody refuted the worst thing about this whole debate: the idea that autism is more terrifying than polio and tuberculosis. Truly, it's like saying, "I'd rather my child be dead than autistic."
And with all the fear mongering that Autism Speaks does, I largely blame them.
God bless John and The Oliver family!! You celebrate Kate and your boys everyday when you aren’t making us think and we laugh. Last Week Tonight is an excellent program.
And this segment was 3 years before COVID
Uh, yeah? Vaccines have existed for a long time. As has vaccine ‘scepticism’.
The kids then: I don't know why I need to listen to these Biology and Geography teachers, I'm never gonna use the knowledge.
Those people now: vAcCiNeS cAuSe AuTiSm AnD tHe EaRtH iS fLaT
And Ryan Luther, you're a fool. I don't know of any antivaxxer who believes in a flat Earth. Antivaxxers FYI are actually ex-vaxxers who stopped having their children injected after one or more of them developed serious health issues. Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm and also have higher incomes. They are mostly very well read and have looked at the true science once their child became autistic, developed encephalopathy or became paralized. Do you realize many doctors don't vaccinate their own kids?
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"Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm..."
Source?
"...and also have higher incomes."
Again, source?
"They are mostly very well read and have looked at the true science..."
They have spent time on google. These people literally funded a study to find a link between vaccines and autism, and it came up against them.
"...once their child became autistic, developed encephalopathy or became paralized."
Your failure to spell "paralyzed" tells me a lot.
But I'll take this claim at face value and say this: CORRELATION =/= CAUSATION.
First off: Autism.
Autism SYMPTOMS show at around the time vaccines can first be injected, but there's so much against it. Not only have unvaccinated people "become" autistic, autism is a physical problem with the brain, and is something people are born with. And again, look at what happened, I straight up said it right before this.
Okay, now for encephalopathy.
You literally just took a word that means brain disease, damage or disorder. Causes of such things include: infections, trauma, metabolic problems, and the like. All entirely physical things that cannot happen through vaccinations. Why don't you google it, since the internet supersedes any actual medical knowledge?
Finally: becoming paralyzed through vaccination.
There is no proven link between getting vaccinated and Guillain-Barre syndrome (which I'm assuming is what you're referring to). Like I said with autism, symptoms simply show up at about the same time.
"Do you realize many doctors don't vaccinate their own kids?"
Like I've said before, source?
Why am I even trying, you'll probably just say I'm wrong, or a government sheep, or attack something superficial, like my profile picture, because that's how hard your argument falls flat. By the way, the whole "flat earther and anti-vaxxer thing" was simply a joke. I, too, have never met someone who believes both of those, since that's a level of stupidity that would cause brain cell implosion, I was simply referring to both movements. Come at me.
@@ryanluther5785 You're being deceived by the Devil. John Oliver is exploiting your pride, your sloth and your fear for survival if you go against the authority figure (John Oliver) who is the alpha of the group. Hence the audience's synonymous laughter. You don't want to be laughed at because you're a coward who needs people to think you're one of them. Find the motive for the lie ($$$$) and you can find the liar. Follow the money.
@@snowbird6855 No, a large amount of anti-vaccination people have been fed false information about vaccines being harmful, when in the long run not getting them is harmful. You do realize that not vaccinating your kid, literally opens the door for diseases like Measles to come to them? Measles can result in your child being blind, or deaf. If its Autism you're worried about, let me be the most likely 100th person to tell you that vaccinations do not cause Autism. There is no science proving it, all the 'proof' you have is the fact that Autism develops around the age when children start getting vaccinated. One of the most common causes of Encephalopathy is heavy drinking.The other causes of it are infections, anoxia, metabolic problems, toxins, drugs, physiologic changes, trauma, and many others. I don't know about you, but I don't see 'vaccinations' on there. Paralysis is caused by damage to the nervous system as well as stroke, trauma with nerve injury, poliomyelitis, cerebral palsy, peripheral neuropathy, Parkinson's disease, ALS, botulism, spina bifida, multiple sclerosis, and Guillain-Barré syndrome. I do not think many doctors don't vaccinate their children. The amount of doctors who REFUSE to work on children because they're unvaccinated is very high. They refuse to, because it could be harmful to them, other members of the staff, or other patients. Also, I'm just going to dispute the claim that 'Antivaxxers tend to be more highly educated than the norm' using the following corrections to your comment.
- Tend to be more educated. 'more highly educated' makes no sense at all.
-*Autistic
-* Paralyzed
-You're missing several commas, not even gonna correct all of those.
FYI, the last time an article has been written about Encephalopathy supposedly being caused by/relate to vaccines, is 2011.
Christine Paolini T. AntiVaxxer
I am on the spectrum and hearing Karens push these bs anti-vax narratives that tap into people's prejudice against people with autism on top of lying to others, posing a risk for people to die of long curable diseases is extremely sad and perpetuates dehumanizing attitudes towards those with autism.
Edit: I reworded this comment to bring across what I'm trying to say a bit better and to be less ambiguous.
Dude. I am so sorry for those idiots. That is legitimately horrible. I don't even know what to say. Just keep in mind that you these people have no idea
Same, It's really saddening when peole think their kid is better off dead than have autism.
They're just willfully ignorant. They don't even research what autism actually is because to them it's the same as Downs Syndrome.
Luke Williams
When they aren’t even close, or connected.
ASD + ADHD isn’t that uncommon a combination, but the two are still separate, even if the combo is more frequent than would be expected.
I'm not on the spectrum but I've had many friends over the years who were... funny thing about that? They all hate this bs.
I love how you deliver true news about real stuff and make it in a way that is interesting for children like me and make them want to watch for the jokes but also to learn
You sound like me when I was younger. I started watching this show when I was 12. :)
It's nice to see kids as interested in this kind of stuff as I was. It gives me hope for the future.
Gotta love when LWT does a segment on something that becomes extremely important a couple of years later
John looks like a grown up morty
The m - He is.
Woah.
The m oh my god
The m omigod
feelsbadman
As the mother of a child with Leukemia, you cannot believe the stress of hoping that other children are vaccinated when your child is allowed to go back to school.
Creative Life I have Aplastic Anemia which is the same as Leukemia but just without cancer, I'm 15 and it's really stressful hoping that everyone is vaccinated since chemo wiped out my vaccinations and I still have to get new ones
Real question.... where im from your kid cant go to school without vaccines, and STILL she will get sick from another kid at school, no way around it. So, why send your kid to school if its so risky
Creative Life vaccines are good. But why are you sending your child to school?
chad carlson lol. They get sick with the cold. Not measles and polio and other deadly diseases.
Alvaro Hernandez Sending my love and prayers to you. ❤️ Stay strong, safe and uplifted. It sucks but I know you can get through this. 😊
My son has pretty much finished his 2nd round of vaccines and has been cleared to get the flu shot.
My grandma (92) frequently talks about how people lined up in excitement for the polio vaccine. She still has the scar. Her friends have gotten shingles, and one of them recently died from complications. You don't fuck with measles, it is extremely serious
She has seen multiple wars, genocide, multiple pan and epidemics, the Great Depression, emigration to the US, being half Persian during 9/11 and the war on terror, and her home city being bombed during the blitz. Her husband (my grandfather) watched from the upstairs bedroom while the neighbor across the street was flattened by a bomb. I saw it when I was in England, and it's maybe 15-20 meters from his front door
This woman has seen all the shit humanity has to offer, and every time we talk she sounds so disappointed in this country. Deeply, deeply disappointed. She jokes about how Trump is too ugly or Biden is too ancient to run (her words), or how she's glad "I'll be dead before then, good luck", but it's truly a horrible thing to witness. She has lost so many people to diseases that are now preventable, and she has to watch these people throw all that away
Wakefield has subjected the 12 children to invasive diagnostic procedures such as lumbar puncture. It turned out that some of the children had been diagnosed with vitamin b12 deficiency by a simple urine test. He chose not do a urine test for the rest. Vitamin b12 deficiency would have explained their symptoms. It's shameful that the Lancet had accepted the study. It's not only flawed in design but unethical.
Hey John, doubt you'll see this comment, but you should know this segment changed a few anti-vaxxer's minds. I've seen it. You may have just saved some children's lives. Keep being amazing.
Thanks for keeping an openmind! 👍
That is amazing !
Fun fact. The Doctor who invented the vaccine for the polio was this guy 0:27 Jonas Salk. And he chose not to patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it. One interview he was asked 'who owned this patent?' he said: "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?"
Cool dude.
Far cry from today's profiteers, wish there were more like Dr. Jonas Salk to help us out of todays nightmares.
As much as I love that quote, it also inadvertently implies somebody made the sun lol.
Neat
@@CherryBomb_Games umm, god! Duh!
It actually wasn’t just him he just took credit
When something is so accurate it is 100% applicable years later.
*_John:_* "There's no way those children aren't about to be decapitated by a stop sign!"
*_Ari Aster:_* "Write that down, write that down!!!"
If you know, you know.
I had polio two years before the vaccine was available. It took nearly two years for me to learn to walk again without crutches. My cousin, ill at the same time, never got out of a wheelchair and became a recluse. I cannot even recall being able to run. To think that there are people calling themselves parents who would intentionally be okay with this possibility for their children, who cannot protect themselves from their parents.
Spyderred wow, I’m incredibly sorry for you. It’s crazy to think that a disease that did this to tens of thousands of kids a year was eradicated with some science juice in a needle. Again I’m sorry this happened to you
TheGameLab /gaming there wasn’t any vaccine then. It came two years later. I only mention it because there are people who seize on a discredited paper by a man who manipulated the results to not vaccinate their children against polio, measles and the rest. I want what I experienced to end with my generation and never cripple anyone again.
Spyderred I know there wasent a vaccine, I’m just saying it was crazy how quickly polio went from being a major problem to something we think about less then McDonald’s
My grandparents met working at a hospital for kids who had polio. I will get every vaccine I can. Except I almost died from the flu shot, went into full anaphylaxis and it is by grace I didn’t die, as 20 year old at a campus flu shot clinic. 4 allergy doctors have tried to analyze it, and are too concerned about how rapidly I react to test different things I might be allergic to. I still will get OTHER vaccines for exactly the reason you point out. I am so sorry at the heavy toll polio took on your family, and so grateful you spoke up on this. I am in self quarantine until there is a reliable COVD 19 vaccine. Even then, I have to get it at an allergy clinic or somewhere that is near a hospital. If I could have prevented chicken pox, I would have. My kids are my fur babies, and they get inoculated on everything. Though when they hit 7 I start asking for titers...story for another day. Polio, diphtheria, measles, whooping cough, all completely preventable, IF people vaccinate their kids. I had to trust that we have disinfected things enough, pre COVID 19. Now it is this too shall pass.
Lara Snider yeah, the flu shot is a tricky one. The thing with the flu is there’s so many strains so they kinda have to guess what shot to give you.
"I'm debating the age" said the woman holding a baby with EARRINGS.
Ugh… yes because Tragedeigh absolutely needed those earrings but doesn’t need the life saving vaccines.
@@tegantalks9612 "You can't poke my young child with a tiny needle to inoculate them against deadly infections! I'm going to pierce my child with a much larger needle that might infect them instead."
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@@coaxill4059 🤣
Oh my god! I hadn't even noticed that. That is just art.
getting this recommended almost two years into the pandemic sure is a slap in the face.
If you go to a country or somewhere vaccines are not readily available, there are still children with Autism. The world needs to be better educated and understand that autism is not bad, but makes someone unique and intelligent.
Some people just don't want to be educated is the problem. Whenever I point out stuff like this all I get is "your brainwashed" or I'm a "shill for big pharma". Still waiting for my paycheck from them btw. 😂😂 people as a whole are stupid, selfish, ignorant, and arrogant creatures and will often put their own needs above all others. Problem is when it comes to vaccines they actually put the health of others around them at jeopardy too.
I feel like some countries that have under funded healthcare care sectors would also have this happening too(I studied political science and Finance in college)😂
Measles survivor here. It went through our neighborhood in 1955, and nobody was particularly sick except for me. 105F fevers for two days cooked my eyes and cost me permanent vision degradation, my hair fell out and I was left with hearing distortion that is crippling when I'm tired or distracted.
No measles vax existed back then; we'd just gotten the Salk vax and were thrilled to have it. Several kids in my town were permanently crippled and one died, thanks to polio.
I honestly don't understand how loving parents can allow their children to go through the hell of contagious diseases that our great grandparents would have sold their souls for.
Visit an old cemetery and look at the little headstones. You won't often see just one; they're clustered in groups of three, four and sometimes five or six, all with dates a few days apart. These were someone's children, and they all died around the same time of the same thing: infections disease.
It's not something to screw around with. Seriously.
you are not allowed to criticize the experimental chemicals. you must inject.
@@Night.League you are not allowed to criticize the experimental seat belts. you must click.
@@jasryl661 while I can understand the worry here, keep in mind that chance of death by vaccine is still just a speck when compared to the chance of death by the diseases they were created for, like measles and polio, among others.
The reason you might be seeing more reports of death by vaccines than by those diseases is because the vast majority of parents are vaccinating their kids, and it's working. Because the rate of those disease dropped, there is also a much lower rate of death by those diseases. Thus, there is a much lower rate of death by diseases and far fewer reported incidents. When put into context, vaccines save more lives than they take.
Quick Edit: I remember watching a video from a source that I trust that explains this much better than I do, and more.
czcams.com/video/zBkVCpbNnkU/video.html
@R41Ryan Here’s the thing about Measles. There is nothing to back up the CDC’s scary statistic that a child, infected with Measles, has a 1 in 1,000 risk of dying. Not in any of the developed countries with proper sanitation. We haven’t had any year with no Measles outbreak. They don’t always get the media recognition of the Disney outbreak. But, how many deaths are we seeing? Certainly not 1 in 1,000. It’s concerning to me that society is so willing to accept deaths from vaccines for what they perceive to be the greater good. Yet, they criticize people for demanding safer vaccines. Why? Did you know that Japan uses an MMR that doesn’t contain aborted fetal cells? Or, that other first world countries have a much less demanding vaccine schedule than the U.S.? For example, the U.S. is the only developed country that mandates a Hep B at birth. The Measles used to be laughed at on shows like the Flintstones and the Brady Bunch back before the media was owned by Pharma giants. Also, we have had Measles and Mumps outbreaks among vaccinated individuals. The effects wear off. This is why the CDC is now recommending another MMR booster for adults.
@@jasryl661
As I have said in my last post, the reason that we do not have a measles outbreak in any of the developed countries is because those countries have been vaccinating and successfully preventing people from getting infected. As a result, the cases for measles becomes less and less common, and so is the death rate from them. (although sanitation does contribute it as well, it doesn't prevent it alone since, for example, measles is airborne) This is also the reason why we see more reports of deaths from a vaccines, and comparing that with reports from measles can make it seem like it's more common, and thus, more dangerous. Though, I could not find the CDC's claim for that 1-in-1000 risk.
Now, I do not live in the US so I do not know the experience of going through their vaccine scheduling. Here in Canada though, I remember growing up that I had to take up to 2-3 vaccines at a time every 2-3 years. In addition, vaccines for the most deadly diseases (like measles) are publicly funded. This is neither a rebuttal nor an affirmation, but just a foreign perspective.
Also, keep in mind on how a vaccine physically works. It takes advantage of the human body's immune system and how it can "remember" diseases it encounters through memory T-cells. The vaccine would contain either a dead or weakened version of the disease so that the immune system can identify the antigens, thereby making it react faster to the real disease when it encounters them before they do any real damage.
As a final note, I acknowledge that I am not an authority on this topic. Although, at the same time, neither are you. I won't post anymore beyond this because frankly, this is the internet; there is no way either of us are going to change our minds here.
Though, I will say that if you truly are skeptical of the status quo and want the truth, don't just look for trusted sources, but from many, diverse sources. If they all agree to the same thing, then you know that it's a universal truth.
Nothing soothes me to sleep quite like the giddy voice of a nerdy British guy talking about depressing shit. Thanks again bae.
sammme
So re. the whole, "the age when kids get the MMA vaccine is the age that diagnosable signs of autism start to appear". I have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). I have severe insomnia, which is common for ASD, and I'm told I had it from basically day one. Mind you, that's anecdotal, and it's difficult to distinguish signs of autism from normal variations in infant sleeping habits. Still pretty interesting to consider that you might be able to observe subtle indications of ASD in preverbal children, possibly another route to consider in terms of proving there's no correlation? Not that I want to encourage more pointless studies, but I'd like people to vaccinate more and if that's what it takes.
A sudden and mysterious lack of spiders would be genuinely terrifying in Australia.
Tomorrow he will be sued by a group of fish for defamation of character.
medical vertues of water melon
You're probably a dumb fish.
This was fucking hilarious. You should have more upvotes.
it is school of fish not group
As an autistic person, having autism is not worse than dying of measles.
Even if vaccines did cause autism, I would still rather be an autistic person with no chance of getting measles than a nonautistic person who has measles and has infected dozens of other people with measles. Autism is not that fucking bad.
PREACH IT, BROTHER!
I'd noticed John's distinct lack of a "there's not actually anything wrong with being autistic" point, probably because, as I know from experience, going off on every possible tangent in a discussion tends to go badly.
Hopefully that's just being saved for another video for another time because, as a fellow aspie, THERE AIN'T NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING AUTISTIC! Any time I see a vaccination debate bring up the subject, all I can think is "I hate to butt in on your discussion on whether or not Polio, Measles, and the Pox should come back but could you maybe cover the point that Autism's not actually that bad? You're kinda talking like I'm some kinda diseased freak!"
I blame Autism Speaks for worsening the situation. They _constantly_ portray Autism as being a "Worst-Case Scenario", where the kids are portrayed as being unable to function for themselves, _constantly_ screaming and making a scene for no reason, and needing horribly expensive treatments if they're to have anything resembling hope of becoming a functioning member of society. It's made parents paranoid as hell, even though in most cases, Autism just makes the kid socially awkward and needing a little help instead of an institution to function. That, and a little more effort on part of said parents, which nobody wants to put in these days, even for kids that turn out "normal" (even though nobody wants to be seen as normal, it seems like at times).
My grandmother was a huge vaccine skeptic, didn’t vaccinate, my mom got measles and has had functionality and hearing issues ever since. She vaccinated the shit out of my brother and I and we never got sick.
Who's here after John recently uploaded the video on Covid-19 vaccines
"The human body is a true carnival of horrors, and frankly, I'm embarrassed to have one" this incredible line will not go unnoticed
The creators of rick and Morty certainly didn't.
Sooo funny.. Our body is the most sophisticated nuro energetic machine known - it makes the alapathetic chemical industry look like cave dwellers..
The human body is a gift from God and beyond an human brain..
@@reflectiononthesea9153 um nah, but if you want to think that go for it. I don't mind if your children suffer from your actions. thats on you, my dear.
@@biggrocc19 Look - I don't want to see any more damaged children..You must have some idea of the statistics..
"The human body is a carnival of horrors and frankly, I'm embarrassed to have one."
I would be too if it looked like that. 😉
It is the British Way
Seek help.
... VERY SAD... Very ungrateful...
reading the new comments really depresses me
This needs to be updated annually and played on a loop. Especially this COVID. There are just waaaaaay too many bloody idiots out there!
Weird how people who never took the covid jab never got covid....
Weird how people who took all 99 jabs, had covid countless times...
Indeed, too many idiots thinking a pharmaceutical company has YOUR interests at heart.
DIDNT GET POLIO AGAIN TODAY!
SO LIT!!!
+Stephanie Dorr
Except you can totally get it (rarely) if someone has a hearty sneeze and isn't considerate enough to cover their mouth/nose. Since the virus also lives in the throat of those who are defined as "infected" stop spreading misinformation.
Rather take a shot then have some fuckwit sneeze on me.
anonymous that's not good
Again
+Anonymous
Which is just a fancy way of saying "Mumps" or "Rubulavirus"
Although I don't recall the original polio vaccine causing either of these things to happen. The original polio vaccine actually was contaminated with SV40. Which was said to cause tumors in humans and rodents- cancer studies of course flocked to the scene years later, researching mortality and death rates to see if there was any change between the years that said vaccine that was contaminated was produced.
The research suggested that no such rise occurred and that there was no issue from the vaccine itself other than it happened to be contaminated by said strain.
If you have more information please share it. I'm more of a neutral party in the debate and function off of logic and information.
+Paul Proffit
Says the only one making disparaging remarks and making it about "sides" versus "facts."
Please show me what lie is being spread? You still haven't gotten back to me on that. Did you decide not to waste my time then? I just happened to see this video and want answers as I've already said to you.
What does having no life have to do with trying to find out where the lies end? You haven't given me one piece of evidence that proves anything I said has been false or misleading. But every one else I've talked to has tried and then ran away as I've said already. I don't see how I have any less right to say what I want to, than you do to go around to every comment I've also commented on and say as much in your slanderous way? I'll ask you to either redact your statement or not make any further ones towards my person.
We need to remove car windows, because in most car crashes the cars had windows
Finally someone whos brave enough to speek out!
Bread is the real danger - 99.99% of murderers in the western world had eaten bread in the month before they killed!
More like, “we need to remove seatbelts, cause in most crashes, the cars had seatbelts”
I just realized, all the people that died from cancer DRANK WATER!
@@LucasRodrigues-ye3qx Don't get me started on the biggest killer of all, Dihydrogen Monoxide!
Just got my first covid vaccine. I dilly dallied and was scared as fuck. Honestly the worst side effect was being in my own head. I was terrified and anxious for days after. And I have a biology degree!!!!! I understand the fear but I also understand that 100 years of research on viral vaccinations is a lot more convincing that Alex Jones or any other misinformed citizen. Round 2 and then I'll be able to go see my loved ones again!
Got ours back in mid-March. Had a sore arm for a short period of time and that was it. Most of the people we know are vaccinated. The worst ended up feeling pretty under the weather for 24-48 hours; the least impact was a sore arm for a day or two.
Talking about Polio vaccine & now there's polio outbreaks in London & NYC
I love how people are happy to tell scientists to stick to science and not give their opinions when it comes to politics on important topics like climate change, but have no problems when politicians talk about their "scientific views" and facts, which are, so many times, just plainly false
Double standards hooo!
Rohit G when people say the things like evolution or climate change are "opinions" when both are extensivly documented and proven. Evolution is proven using bacteria and can be seen in modern humans, and climate change has always been around as our world is always chaging, we are just making it change faster.
I think the world would be more logical if more scientists were involved in politics...
Scientists can't beat politicians because they rely on truth...
Rohit G Or how politicians preface their remarks about a scientific issue with the words, "Now I'm not a scientist, but...", followed by introducing some misguided and misinformed mumble of non facts as if they were scientifically valid. By the time they have spoken their piece it becomes clear that the , "I'm not a scientist" bit was not an statement of humility or self depreciation, but more of a warning that they have no respect for real science.
The United States of America, home to both:
-NASA
-The Flat-Earth Society
Something somewhere went terribly wrong.
Disappointed Turtle The educational system.
Rafael Lopes Most likely
Rafael Lopes or the south.
Something is not like the others...
why putting NASA with the other ones? I thought NASA was good thing, wasn't it?
As much as I want to blame the school systems, it is hard to do that because it's really the parents who harass the schools and the schools have to bend to their will. I wish I knew what to do to fix this.
Trump: "Kids are not horses."
Also Trump: Touting Ivermectin
WINNER
What's about Hunter investment in US bio labs in Ukraine? Nobody talk about it?
My bfs son has heart, liver, intestine, and immunity problems
I’ve spent all of quarantine freaking out about people not following the rules. EVERYDAY other people exposed me, even when begging hr for a machine that people wouldn’t walk past. He wouldn’t survive if he got covid. Also my company never made masks while staying open and claiming necessity.
Everyone ordering a t shirt, is wearing one.
I’m still disgusted, and the only one who wears a mask during my shift.
day 1472 of being vaccinated. still haven’t died. thanks mom.
You are 4 years old?
GreatDaneLegend idk man.
@@greatdanelegend7001 Older than the usual antivaxxer kid
Tiago Frutuoso yeah, the average is 1.5 years
@@alphadoughnut2651 Most of them don't make it past the first breath since most antivaxxer moms are into doulas and water births and other new age crap.
“The human body is a carnival of horrors.” As a medical student I can totally confirm lol.
As a fellow medical student, I support this statement. I’d also like to criticize some design decisions, looking at you the knee, the lumbar spine, and external testicles.
@Ian Magruder absolutely XD
Soon I shall understand that to
@@UnsolicitedContext as a non-medical student who knows enough about anatomy, knees, lumbar part of the spine and testicles are fucking WACK. Who designed this shit? I need to have a discussion with them.
@@UnsolicitedContext Don't forget the vagus nerves/recurrent laryngeal nerves... Oh yeah, and our inside out eyeballs!
12:59 lolol my heart hurts from laughing so much, when John Oliver uses the sentence, "Donkey Fucker"
"tiny children are not horses."
Well, of course they're not. Horses don't exist. ;)
The fact that parents are so afraid of their children getting autism that they are prepared to risk them contracting life threatening diseases is frankly depressing and is a clear example of how misinformed people are as to what autism actually is.
you do realise that only after WW2 did the strict hygiene practices we now use become widespread? so yes, over the years people got measles less, they learned n understood how disease spreads, hospitals started using sterile gloves etc to reduce cross contamination, campaigns to alert the populace of symptoms n first responses (i.e. isolate the patient so they cannot pass on the illness/disease) thus the contact spreading part of the diseases' cycle occured at much lower rates, hence just b4 vaccines came out, lower numbers of measles related deaths compared to 1910
Also, the reason why there wasnt much difference noticed between immediately pre vacc n post vacc years is because herd immunity protection takes time if there's always 20+% of population floating about not immunized (as there would have been 1st few years while vaccine programs first ran) the numbers were gunna stay much the same, because the herd effect hadnt kicked in
Jennifer Paige
Wait, then what kind of site do you *want* me to take information from? A commercial site? An organization? A network? Because those all have the same(and arguably worse) problems than a government site.
Jennifer Paige I don't think you understand what the issue is.The problem was never about if the unvaccinated harm the vaccinated. The problem is that some people, for any number of reasons, cannot be vaccinated and THOSE people are the ones put at risk by the ones who choose to remain unvaccinated. I don't usually comment on youtube videos and I'm not going to fight but I wanted to be the first to point out your blatant misunderstanding of the situation.
+TheBookWorm1718 "Would you care to show us the statistics on how many people in America died from measles the year before the measles vaccine came out, vs. the measles death rate the year after the vaccine came out? Let's see how massive that difference is."
Go to academic.oup.com/jid/article/189/Supplement_1/S69/2082538
Scroll down to the graph. The vaccine was first made available in 1963. Between 1962 and 1967, the number of measles cases dropped from roughly 250 per 100,000 people to around 10 per 100,000 people. The death rate for measles was about 0.2% at the time. The US population in 1960 was about 180 million. That means that, right after the vaccine was released, we went from 450,000 cases (and around 900 deaths) a year to 18,000 cases (and around 36 deaths)
So... long story short: about 900 deaths the year before the vaccine came out and around 36 four years after the vaccine came out.
111111hakar
Autism isn't actually a debilitating disability in more cases than not. It's often a social or minor learning disability rather than the equivalent of mental retardation.
Saying thimerosal is Mercury is like saying water is flammable because a third of it is oxygen
Except oxygen isn't flammable
Oxygen is totally flammable. You probably don't notice it because air is mostly nitrogen and other non-flammable gasses, but pure oxygen is INCREDIBLY flammable. Liquid oxygen is literally rocket fuel. I'm not exaggerating with literally, either. Liquid oxygen fuel is actually what they use to launch rockets.
Andrew Kolberg So true. Other examples are that one shouldn't smoke around people with oxygen tanks and people can't fly without restrictions with said oxygen tanks.
Certain groups of people don’t know how chemistry works.
And the other two thirds is quite explosive as well if i remember chemistry correctly.
We just found out that when you see Rob Schneider playing an idiot in a movie he's not being typecast - he's just playing himself.
The thing that kills me about the whole "vaccines cause autism" is that someone would rather have a dead kid than an autistic one. People with autism are still people, they aren't broken. Some of my favorite people on this planet have autism! The root of this is the stigma against autism, but idk when we're gonna have that conversation.