Robin Horsfall - Are we Underestimating how Destructive and Long-lived Moscow's Aggression could be?

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • GUEST: Robin Horsfall, soldier, writer, campaigner and keynote speaker.
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    The existence of the USSR over many decades unfortunately shows that tyranny can be tenacious, and the extreme barbarism it deploys to suppress freedoms can last a long time and exact a huge toll of human suffering. That is why our weak strategy towards a decisive Ukrainian victory and complacency in the face of a revanchist, totalitarian (even fascistic) Russian World ideology is so very dangerous. We underestimate how pernicious, destructive, and long-lived this new wave of illiberal aggression from the Moscow swamplands could be.
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    SPEAKER:
    Robin Horsfall joined the British Army at the age of fifteen in 1972. He served with the Parachute Regiment and 22 Special Air Service. He left the British Army in 1984 and worked as a mercenary, bodyguard and as a medical officer is many active zones around the world. He then built London Karate for twenty years, teaching thousands the art and discipline of karate. He retired and went to Surrey University aged 56 and graduated in English Literature and Creative Writing three years later. He is the author of several books including his hugely successful autobiography Fighting Scared - which I highly recommend you read.
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    BOOKS:
    - Slava Ukraini! Who Dares Shares (2023 - Signed hardback)
    - Fighting Scared
    - The Words of the Wise Old Paratrooper
    - Warrior Poet: A Soldier’s Songs
    Find out more about Robin's extraordinary life and achivements here, as well as an online shop to buy his books: robinhorsfall.co.uk/
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Komentáře • 473

  • @user-jb3no4ju2c
    @user-jb3no4ju2c Před 7 měsíci +46

    I find Robin Horsfalls point of view extremely enlightening. He shines a light on how those in power in the west should be performing rather than the half measures that they are serving up.

  • @chozumi
    @chozumi Před 7 měsíci +48

    Undiluted, unequivocal, pro-active support for Ukraine's victory and peace is the necessary focus. It's uplifting to see the dedicated support from this channel and also from your guest Robin Horsfall. Slava Ukraine!

    • @eddybrevet6816
      @eddybrevet6816 Před 7 měsíci

      Putin is trashing Russia,

    • @J--12
      @J--12 Před 7 měsíci

      Seems to me that support is over😂
      No more Columbian humanitarian aid to that green-shirt wearing, height-challenged Che Guevara wannabe.

    • @pas0003
      @pas0003 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@J--12 do you get paid in rubles? How many comments a day do you need to make to meet the quota?

    • @J--12
      @J--12 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@pas0003 Твоя мамаша мне за них натурой расплачивается.

    • @PatRiarchy-qw6cp
      @PatRiarchy-qw6cp Před 7 měsíci

      Unfortunately, I don't see a path for Ukraine to win anymore. The lack of air support alone has been devastating.

  • @VoidAspect
    @VoidAspect Před 7 měsíci +78

    Everyone talks about war fatigue, but if you ask most people, they support Ukraine. I think our politicians underestimate just how many are not only willing to further support the fight in Ukraine but take pride in our past support.

    • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
      @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Před 7 měsíci +8

      All the more reason for them to be more courageous, therefore, and rally that support! I think there was fairly tacit - but definite - acceptance that whatever our issues with BJ, be was a very good figurehead for making us feel the passion. Tbh, what did it for me was seeing President Ze addressing parliamemt in the house of lords and then from Westminster Hall - there were several points of it, with Leslie Hoyle in full Court drag, hamming it up no end and getting us feeling all warm and traditional about the afternoon tea he shared with the President - who in turn made reference to how much he enjoyed it and having to pinch himself that he would meet the King - there were several moments where I "found I had something in my eye" - especially when he presented the Speaker with a signed flying helmet from a Ukrainian king - in that case not a literal one, the king of the skies, one of his best airforce aces🥰🥰

    • @samsungtap4183
      @samsungtap4183 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Your wrong most people in the world couldn't care less. If anything they support Russia.

    • @ibeetellingya5683
      @ibeetellingya5683 Před 7 měsíci +10

      ​@@samsungtap4183The comment you've responded to isn't discussing the global population; it's about Americans.
      But to your point, here's my general observation: Africa is a big continent. Russia, India, China, South America...together, they are home to ~63‰ of world's population. However, not every person among them is brainwashed, clueless or cares about Russia, Ukraine, Europe, or anywhere else but where they live. My educated guess is that a small % of them would support Russia if they know the truth.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood Před 7 měsíci +15

      ​@@samsungtap4183only facists support russia

    • @Awibrahor
      @Awibrahor Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@ibeetellingya5683You’re replying to someone - or something - that cares zilch about truth.

  • @georgejackson3570
    @georgejackson3570 Před 7 měsíci +72

    Yet another fantastic conversation Jonathan. I have been following your channel for many months now and thanks to you and your knowledgeable speakers, you have given me a deeper understanding of exactly what is going on in this conflict. Sadly our easily distracted main stream media goes from one crisis to another like a bee collecting pollen and is always trying to satiate the appetite of a world with a short attention span. Keep up the good work.

  • @chrystya
    @chrystya Před 7 měsíci +145

    As a Ukrainian American that had to sit through 12 years of “Uki”
    School every Saturday, Historically, Russia has always been the aggressor.
    This war in Ukraine is not Ukraine is not several years old. Ukraine has been fighting against the Russia for a
    thousand years.

    • @phil20_20
      @phil20_20 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yep, the U.S.S.R. was just a front for Russian Imperialism under a new government.

    • @ennediend2865
      @ennediend2865 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Typical from an Empire 👍

    • @Chaldon-hl6yk
      @Chaldon-hl6yk Před 7 měsíci +2

      Ukraine since 1991

    • @wyskass861
      @wyskass861 Před 7 měsíci +1

      And Russia the world for that same time.

    • @gintasvilkelis2544
      @gintasvilkelis2544 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@Chaldon-hl6yk"Rossya" since 1721. "Moskovie" before that.

  • @njaalsturlasson2351
    @njaalsturlasson2351 Před 7 měsíci +47

    Thanks, Jonathan. Great content. I am doing my best to support the spread of your channel. Let’s get it to 100 k!

  • @scottyd3138
    @scottyd3138 Před 7 měsíci +32

    Another great conversation!

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Před 7 měsíci +7

      👍👍👍

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 Před 7 měsíci +8

      We are cold war era vintage here, Mrs C was a Nursing officer in the QARNC in the BAOR/ British army of the Rhine, she was issued with a Sterling sub machine gun and a Browning side arm to protect her patients if the Russians arrived...nothing has changed sadly...good luck to Robin on his book..thanks as always Jonathan...E...😊

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@eamonnclabby7067 I'm not sure what you mean by 'nothing has changed'. A lot has changed! Former Warsaw Pact countries are now in NATO and the European Union, I don't think Mrs C could've imagined that!
      Ukraine will win this war and that will bring great changes in and of itself, changes for the better including Europe.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@artmcteagleOnly referring to the Russians...no offence intended...as stated nothing has changed in my opinion of the Russians...E..

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Před 7 měsíci

      OK, yes, can the Russian mindset change and overcome serfdom? Not for a long time to come, I fear. @@eamonnclabby7067

  • @pas0003
    @pas0003 Před 7 měsíci +35

    What a fantastic interview! As an Australian-Ukrainian, who also lived in Russia, I agree with basically everything that was said. A fantastic, deep summary.

    • @DODO-vy6sf
      @DODO-vy6sf Před 7 měsíci

      USA suck the resources of their colonies in Eastern Europe, while dropping their own a.erican shite on our doorstep - multiculturalism, wokeness, gender, drugs at schools, migration. There is no benefit for us in this oppression by America. USA used to be a great country to look up to, its over now. USA is the empire of evil, exporting its own terrible problems to us in Europe. You should know better there down under!

    • @J--12
      @J--12 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The least obvious ukrobots be like:

    • @pas0003
      @pas0003 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@J--12 the most obvious Rashist be like ☝️

    • @J--12
      @J--12 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@pas0003 У тебя президент СС-вцу хлопал, шутняра.

  • @sujac664
    @sujac664 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Thank you Jonathan, your interviews are ALWAYS thought provoking and informative, and thank you so much for introducing Robin.👍🏼

  • @rhondabailey9238
    @rhondabailey9238 Před 7 měsíci +20

    The simplicity in the way #RobinHorsfall makes points, make it easy to make notes... for *us* to spread truth and write our representatives✍️🤔

  • @ultonian63
    @ultonian63 Před 7 měsíci +21

    A cut above nearly all other Ukraine-related content on CZcams.

  • @georgettelevesque277
    @georgettelevesque277 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Mr. Fink, you are such a great interviewer! You can always draw the best out of your guests. Thank you for your work!

  • @christainhvidberg
    @christainhvidberg Před 7 měsíci +6

    Thank you so much 🙏🏻 its been a pleasure to listen to this one. Keep up the fighting for Ukraine 🇺🇦

  • @normandduern2413
    @normandduern2413 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Once again, an interview with so much lucidity and clarity I almost feel like I should be viewing it through sunglasses. I will be buying Mr. Horsfall's book in short order.

  • @follow_the-truth
    @follow_the-truth Před 7 měsíci +24

    Another great conversation of two men who know how important it is to support Ukraine. For Ukrainian population and the world to live in peace, democracy and independently. Thanks so much to both of you. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

    • @davidl.7317
      @davidl.7317 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Heroyam Slava 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

  • @benlamprecht6414
    @benlamprecht6414 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Thanks for yet another excellent interview

  • @Sophiedorian0535
    @Sophiedorian0535 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Thank you both so much! I have just come to realise there is not only the Economics of Scale; there's also such a thing as the Morals of Scale. We must have lost awareness of it, since the end of World War Two.

    • @mikefallwell1301
      @mikefallwell1301 Před 7 měsíci +4

      This is so true. Free trade is not a solution to autocracy

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 7 měsíci +4

      We’re also less willing than we used to be to engage in aggressive informational warfare. Everything has to have two sides, even when it doesn’t.

    • @Sophiedorian0535
      @Sophiedorian0535 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@grahamstrouse1165 We must have lost discernment. There's a big difference between fairness and even-handedness. There's also a big overlap between them, but as I fear: only in 100% Peacetime.

    • @Sophiedorian0535
      @Sophiedorian0535 Před 7 měsíci

      @@mikefallwell1301 It may be a good start, but it takes a long time to progress from that. Angela Merkel was a bit too patient, in that respect, and Herr Scholz seemed to even have abandoned Frau Merkel's long term strategy, at first. At least, that is how Putin must have seen it. It's one of the reasons why he invaded some time after Frau Merkel retired. And o boy did he get a nasty surprise, served up by Herr 'too nice' Scholz! Zeitenwende! Billions of Euros! Deutsche Panzer! Rheinmetall churning out Ammo! And also: hundreds of thousands of refugees well taken care of.

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@Sophiedorian0535Absolutely....a sense of fairness and equity is essential to a civic society...the Rochdale pioneers who founded the Co op Retail Society to help poor workers in Northern England, don't get me started on Davos and G7 and the IMF...best wishes from the wirral peninsula...E...😊

  • @druidnia
    @druidnia Před 7 měsíci +6

    I just wish more people realised just how bad mainstream news is. Great to listen to Robin, I will certainly look for him in future.

    • @laars0001
      @laars0001 Před 7 měsíci

      The most visibly and unashamedly worst with horribly anti-Semitic hosts and pro-terrorist is BBC, someone needs to investigate why.

  • @guciodestroyer2432
    @guciodestroyer2432 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I watch this channel more and more often and I am more and more surprised how close the views presented by your interviewees are to what we think in Poland. Be assured that in a few years (if decisions on Polish defence are still made in Poland) we will be ready with large infantry units saturated with anti-tank, anti-aircraft weapons and drone systems. Thank you for another great interview!

    • @laars0001
      @laars0001 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Keep building it up Poland, you are very important.

  • @janlang8605
    @janlang8605 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Excellent discussion. Thank you.

  • @006jjm
    @006jjm Před 7 měsíci +5

    Thank you very much for your work. It is extremely important that we do not forget the truth and our basic values. Russia and its aggression must be stopped. J J M, Luleå, Sweden.

  • @gr12751
    @gr12751 Před 7 měsíci +17

    As Robin points out UKR is also up against poor quality politicians and journalists.

    • @robertmiskey5502
      @robertmiskey5502 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I would have to say cowardly leaders and journalists.

    • @dannydetonator
      @dannydetonator Před 7 měsíci

      Who is this UKR, and why is he cowardly?

    • @dmitryletov8138
      @dmitryletov8138 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@dannydetonator this is how Russians call Ukrainians to offend them

  • @primalamusica3
    @primalamusica3 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Big Thank You for your excellent analysis!

  • @jpl569
    @jpl569 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wonderful conversation, full of truth and hope for Ukraine's victory... Cheers !

  • @timotheusvanesch3959
    @timotheusvanesch3959 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Just one thought that popped up during this conversation:
    We've seen many people talk about how it's not Ukraine learning from NATO how to fight "the next war", it's NATO that will have to learn from Ukraine, now.
    Could it be that politicians in the west have not accepted this reality yet and are, instead of going all-in, still hesitant and in denial, because it's kind of "embarrassing" to admit we had it wrong and we should have started to listen to Ukraine a long time ago?

    • @GMT_400
      @GMT_400 Před 7 měsíci

      I do not think that NATO will ever need training from Ukrainians. NATO war would look nothing like this and putting infantry in trenches would be a mistake. We see this now because the weapons provided are always in response to an escalation or an adversarial advantage. So the effect is to equalize to the lowest level, a trench. Or they are for air defense.

    • @mikefallwell1301
      @mikefallwell1301 Před 7 měsíci

      Russia has for 50 years deeply infiltrated both Germany and France political institutions and used energy trade to prop up its military. To me it's a miracle that they did not succeed

    • @gintasvilkelis2544
      @gintasvilkelis2544 Před 7 měsíci +2

      No, I don't think it's an embarrassment. They are still afraid of the consequences of Putil losing this war.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@GMT_400I wouldn’t be so sure. Ever since the First Gulf War we’ve gotten it into our heads that in a major war we’ll always be able to achieve air dominance. This is no longer the case. The democratization of computing has made air denial much, much more deadly. We have far fewer planes than we did 30 years ago & the LO aircraft we do have are fragile and have poor sortie rates. We can’t hide surface ships anymore. AI has its limitations put any country with access to decent satellites and computers can suss out the location of a carrier group now-We don’t have as many of those, either, btw, and their escorting forces are smaller as are their air wings. Missiles are also MUCH more capable now than they used to be & low-cost drones are genuine game-changers.
      NATO is also less capable than its adversaries when it comes to informational warfare. Our enemies spend a lot of time figuring out how we think. We don’t put in nearly as many resources trying to figure out how they think & how to fight them with influence and soft power.
      Ukraine is the one ally we have that’s really cracked the code when it comes to countering Russian-style propaganda. We still haven’t worked out the best way to deal with Islamist info warfare. Most Western media types are terrified to death of being labeled Islamophobic & they’re overly terrified of fucking college students.

    • @GMT_400
      @GMT_400 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@grahamstrouse1165 I don’t see it like this. NATO would choke the GIUK gap, the Gibraltar and Bosporus straights, hit the refineries and some manufacturing and wait it out. There would be a ground offensive but upon spreading out and the logistics and supply cutoff would slowly choke out. Eastern Europe might take a licking though and the only real question how fast could NATO mobilize to move equipment. As far as low cost drones they’re will likely be high power directed energy like microwave for the swarms. Those drones are not shielded and the circuits will pop.

  • @mikefisher5005
    @mikefisher5005 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Yet another top shelf interview/discussion 😊

  • @lorijones8860
    @lorijones8860 Před 7 měsíci +45

    Thank you love the channel I’m following along I’m so disappointed with our leaders they have really bent Ukraine over the barrel I’m a true believer in their cause and aware totally aware of Putins Russia invasive mentality and quest for expanding their land wealth and resource

    • @justasimpleguy7211
      @justasimpleguy7211 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yet which alliance is expanding and in which direction? Last I checked it has been NATO relentlessly expanding east since the 90s and Russia has not moved one step west.
      Did you ever ask yourself "Are we the baddies?".

    • @corinnem.239
      @corinnem.239 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Russia = the Star Trek Borg. "You will be assimilated ".

    • @corinnem.239
      @corinnem.239 Před 7 měsíci +11

      ​@@justasimpleguy7211Do you ever ask YOURSELF...Why are all of our neighbors seeking to become members of NATO, and why are they so afraid of us ?!?!?
      NATO exists ONLY for mutual DEFENSE against RUSSIAN aggression. Not for any other reason or purpose.
      Without Russian aggression the alliance was losing its purpose.and need.

    • @colmquinn7860
      @colmquinn7860 Před 7 měsíci +12

      ​@@justasimpleguy7211Each country decided to join NATO, none were forced. NATO is a defensive organisation. Maybe Russia influenced the national decisions?

    • @justasimpleguy7211
      @justasimpleguy7211 Před 7 měsíci

      @@corinnem.239 It's one thing to be a sore loser. Being a sore winner is on another level.
      The Germans were treated harshly in defeat after WW I and that led to WW II. We have treated Russia badly after the breakup of the Soviet Union and Ukraine was a bridge too far. They've been saying that for a couple of decades, for Christ's Sake. You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not understand. Or an ideologue with ideological hatred.

  • @grimwar1696
    @grimwar1696 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Hi, I am never going to disagree with YOU 👍 I lesson and Learn from your videos Thankyou for all your Hard work. Glory to Ukraine.

  • @johnwilliams2660
    @johnwilliams2660 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Thanks for your conversations, in the southern hemisphere the coverage of the war in the media is scant. So I rely on You Tube channels for my information, keep up the brilliant work, Slava Ukraine.

  • @leod-sigefast
    @leod-sigefast Před 7 měsíci +5

    Wholeheartedly agree. It is good to hear intelligent thinkers and speakers on this matter.
    Unfortunately many people, and the media, in the West just 'want it to go away'. After the initial WWIII fears and nuclear war, many have sought comfort with ignorance, and head in the sand, therefore thinking the war is over, unimportant or unlikely to escalate - all wrong. Now is probably one of the most critical points of the war where increasing western support and weapons could avoid even worse consequences later. Russia wins, Ukraine capitulates, and the world is in a much more dangerous place. We might get a two year respite but all that is happening is Putin and Russia are replenishing their war stock ready for the next round. Even worse if Trump wins and stands back that leaves Europe in real danger. You cannot appease aggressors. Some people in the West - a lot in the US Republican party - think you can throw Ukraine like a piece of meat to Russia. That beast is never satiated.

  • @davidwaskul2821
    @davidwaskul2821 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Very good talk show, where Good made points all around thank you guys for this good program it was entertaining and knowledgeable. Slava Ukraine and the Free World !!!!

  • @danielmiller3781
    @danielmiller3781 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Another fantastic conversation, Robin reminds me of Gen. Ben Hodges but more on the pessimistic side, the topics are sobering yet important. Ukraine really matters, despite its being largely forgotten or pushed aside by mainstream media, even in Taiwan. We in Taiwan could learn a lot from the Ukrainians, just in case someone from the other side of the strait decides to turn the island red with communism. Slava Ukraine.

  • @sspacegunn21
    @sspacegunn21 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Excellent, ty.

  • @user-vb1hy3li1h
    @user-vb1hy3li1h Před 7 měsíci +4

    Always the best commentary thank you

  • @mikelanglow-bi2sv
    @mikelanglow-bi2sv Před 7 měsíci +4

    ❤- Mr Horsfall understandings I thought were stoically insightful..[ and please-‘rant on’ ] ❤

  • @BV-co7hy
    @BV-co7hy Před 7 měsíci +9

    At 22 comments, thought I’d add , God bless our Armed services
    You always do us proud ..thank you 🙏. 🇬🇧

  • @Four_Words_And_Much_More
    @Four_Words_And_Much_More Před 7 měsíci +5

    I fully agree. Ukraine must win. And because they have limited manpower, winning sooner is MUCH better than ever 6 months later. While there is a delicate balance needed to avoid nuclear exchanges, it is not the danger that some make. In war, there needs to be a decisive movement towards victory on one side. It is a messy business at best and early clear victories are in everyone's interest.

  • @labas4060
    @labas4060 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks for great show!!!!

  • @irinaellis2446
    @irinaellis2446 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Your guest is absolutely right about Putin's involvement in the Hamas attack on Israel on 7th of October.

    • @dmitryletov8138
      @dmitryletov8138 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I especially like these videos with Russian speaking commanding something to HAMAS people. Hold on 99% of Ukrainians speak Russian 😅

    • @klaasvakie
      @klaasvakie Před 7 měsíci

      🙄

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton Před 7 měsíci +2

    Oh! I just noticed that you've started adding chapters. Thanks!

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Před 7 měsíci +1

      I’ve not caught up on all the videos… but am trying…

  • @thepirate6211
    @thepirate6211 Před 7 měsíci +8

    What a good rant! Would whish the politicans would see this and ( Listen to the ones who know what is going on)! Let me say this, this is one of the best interviews so far i have seen, and i have seen manny! Insuranse is expensive! But! When you need it, its nice!

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz Před 7 měsíci +5

    🇦🇺💙💛✌ 🇺🇦 The West cannot be distracted from Ukraine. Whilst events in Israel and Gaza are tragic and divisive, it will be relatively short lived. Ukraine DOES represent the front line for much of Europe and clearly Putin having made a huge blunder now has nothing to lose. Russia's playbook is obvious, he wants a pause not an end or peace.

  • @natotvwarjimbo3461
    @natotvwarjimbo3461 Před 5 měsíci +1

    JUST WHAT WE GET FROM THE BEST THANK YOU

  • @shaiaheyes2c41
    @shaiaheyes2c41 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Kudos to you, Jonathan, for keeping up the fight every day. Thank you for another good interview.

  • @Tim58167
    @Tim58167 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Excellent interview, just ordered the book.

  • @aguaemfogo3358
    @aguaemfogo3358 Před 7 měsíci +12

    "The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds."
    All of them vanished by dust of time.
    Carl Sagan

    • @markb8468
      @markb8468 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Good quote 👍

    • @georgettelevesque277
      @georgettelevesque277 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Thank you for this quote!

    • @carletouk
      @carletouk Před 7 měsíci +3

      Unfortunately their egos were infinite.

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle Před 7 měsíci +1

      Ozymandias also comes to mind, as does the Disney cartoon movie 'Antz'.

  • @petefrys545
    @petefrys545 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Very interesting interview packed with information

  • @viviannization
    @viviannization Před 7 měsíci +3

    Very good interview.

  • @tashuntka
    @tashuntka Před 7 měsíci +4

    This man got me to subscribe here... Just sayin' 🤷 💛🇺🇦💛🇺🇦💛🇺🇦💛

    • @tashuntka
      @tashuntka Před 7 měsíci +2

      You are both great men... Thank You ✨️ 🙏 💛🇺🇦💛🇺🇦💛🇺🇦💛🇺🇦

  • @jankowalyk7301
    @jankowalyk7301 Před 7 měsíci +4

    another fantastic conversation.

  • @markb8468
    @markb8468 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Hey Jonathan, I'm a big fan of ATP Geopolitics...I'm sure you're familiar with this channel. It would be interesting for the 2 of you to do a discussion.

  • @tommoloney2
    @tommoloney2 Před 7 měsíci +3

    A great man. What is wrong with our politicians.

  • @h.e.hazelhorst9838
    @h.e.hazelhorst9838 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Very much to the point. The current state of affairs in Ukraine vs Russia starts to resemble the First World War. We all know how that one ended.

  • @MichaelCartee-ec2tq
    @MichaelCartee-ec2tq Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well Said Sir !

  • @atomic3141
    @atomic3141 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Very well done. Ordered the book from Amazon.

  • @williamswenson5315
    @williamswenson5315 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Jonathan; I continue to marvel at the eclectic nature of your guests. How do you identify them and get them onto your channel?

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Marvellous interview again Jonathan and for me he made several incredibly important points. That there are some of us - but not enough - who just feel such an overpowering sense of the moral imperative that Ukraine wins. I feel somewhat puzzled - like the two of you do - that clearer leadership is not more forthcoming: he was right too that whatever the overall package is that we got with BJ, no one surely can criticise his initiative in unequivocally supporting Pres Ze from the outset. As was said, the current leadership looks like a bunch of accountants by comparison - unsurprisingly since that's more or less what they are. Seeing a young Sunak interviewed at about 15, talking about his aristocratic friends and his investment portfolio and how he wanted to be PM - an embarrassing, ordinary geeky posh kid, DESPERATE to be accepted and exhibiting all the pretensions and insecurities of the second generation immigrant. The father's made good and determined to give young Rishi the best head start in life possible. Doesnt exactly inspire confidence whereas BJ, on Ukraine at least, did.
    During the late spring and early summer, I railed furiously on the Times Radio channel at France and Germany taking their sweet time to join hands with the weapons packages....in fact France continued SELLING arms to RUSSIA till the end of April last year. Why Biden and Stoltz, especially, are being now so pusillanimous I find strange. While i CAN just about accept that Germany cares about the optics, i just dont really get why Biden is being so cautious. Yes i've heard the arguments about Russia counterbalancing an otherwise overweening China, I've heard the concerns that the nuclear arsenal poses a major global threat if it falls into to the wrong hands during a crumbling Russia - yet at the same time, that didnt happen last time and anyway, Russia doesnt have any working nukes - they've all fallen to dust by now. With Iran inching closer to cracking the nuclear tech - now would seem the ideal time to do a bit of mischief making of our own and get another major protest in Iran, just like the fairly recent one triggered by the death of that young woman....maybe give Iran something to think about too, and divert its attention away from helping Russia.....
    Also, Russia has so consistently lied and been shown to break any and all agreements when expedient to do so, why is ANYONE pushing for peace talks now?
    It was an interesting point that was raised too that you both knew journalists who were not on the Russian payroll yet were using this bloody stupid word "balance" again. I roll my eyes in disbelief and perhaps that helps explain why i wrote such a strange and graphic post in the comments here the other day - while graphic descriptions of Medieval torture, as i envisage them happening to Putin, may well dismiss me "not suitable for public consumption on the airwaves - it does speak to truth about how convinced i am of the absolute requirement for Ukraine to win - and for the USA and Germany to stop farting about. It is heartbreaking to hear during this chat about just how wide an opportunity could not be helped but to be missed by the Ukrainians simply because of the lack of matériel. However, I'm encouraged by the fact Russia's dynamos are showing the first signs of running low....i am desperate to see a Ukrainian made missile land on the Kremlin!!
    I was thinking of doing this and now having heard this I shall do it at the weekend - write to my MP.....

    • @druidnia
      @druidnia Před 7 měsíci +1

      Totally agree with you.

  • @dizzydog3350
    @dizzydog3350 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Liked as usual, excellent discussion. Compared to my rants, you both showed restraint.

  • @wyskass861
    @wyskass861 Před 7 měsíci +5

    The indicators for the West's goal to make Russia bleed and not win, but not Ukrainian victory either, have been visible from the beginning. Keeping Russia engaged, isolated, stuck and busy seems more useful to the West than a defeated Russia, as that would bring in more unknowns and associated risk. It's just unfortunate that Ukrainian lives are being sacrificed for this status quo. In a way I can understand the logic, but it doesn't feel right or courageous.

    • @mikefallwell1301
      @mikefallwell1301 Před 7 měsíci

      The conditions for this war where established by the recognition of Vladimir Putin as a liberal Democrat by the West in spite of his known history in the FSB.

    • @ceceliablair9177
      @ceceliablair9177 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I cannot stand the bystanding and so collusion with terrible cruelty.

  • @anabelleharvey9342
    @anabelleharvey9342 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Thank you for this video. I hesitated in watching in at first becauae of its length and what I viewed as lackluster credentials from your guest.
    I was pleasantly surprised, however, about how your guest cut through the usual bs and non-commital language we often get on this topic.
    I thought I was going crazy and that I was alone in my analysis of the media's dangerous two-siding and "only the facts and only those we deem inoffensive" approach.
    The people are smarter than this, they're capable of ascribing the right motives if given rhe right analyses.

  • @mikeowen3478
    @mikeowen3478 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Completely agree with the discussion on Johnson. Refreshing to hear two clever brains not following the media line and soap opera against an inspiring PM.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 Před 7 měsíci

      Johnson’s still one of the worst PMs ever. In this circumstance it just so happened that his (very articulate) fame-whoring worked for the good guys.

  • @quantumeseboy
    @quantumeseboy Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great conversation, I wish more Americans were on the same page.

    • @robgrey6183
      @robgrey6183 Před 7 měsíci

      Americans want OUR Government to defend OUR wide open southern border, not Ukraine's border.

  • @hybridarmyoffreeworld
    @hybridarmyoffreeworld Před 7 měsíci +2

    Yes. Seems to me there should be more explicit emphasis that US support for Ukraine is a national security issue, not a “foreign aid” issue.

  • @nicholastyrrell
    @nicholastyrrell Před 7 měsíci +1

    TRUTH

  • @victors4333
    @victors4333 Před 7 měsíci

    I am already impressed , at 3:50.

  • @asan1050
    @asan1050 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Silicon Curtain , Thanks Much !..

  • @commandertopgun
    @commandertopgun Před 7 měsíci +1

    THERE IS NOT A SINGLE INTERVIEW YOU DID THAT I DIDN'T ENJOY & GOT EDUCATED-SILICON CURTAIN-CAN'T WAIT TO SUPPORT YOUR CHANNEL

  • @oldowleye3161
    @oldowleye3161 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thank you for another excellent interview

  • @thechancellor3715
    @thechancellor3715 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Saying that Russian military is stuck in the 1960's is to say it's the same as in WWII but with tactical missiles...mind set still lacking any concern for their own population now or consequences in even worse demographics in the immediate future.

    • @gintasvilkelis2544
      @gintasvilkelis2544 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Russian mentality, actually, is stuck back in the 19th century.

    • @dmitryletov8138
      @dmitryletov8138 Před 7 měsíci

      You guys are delusional. Then US stuck where or when with their wooden electric poles everywhere, meat risen with hormones that is restricted in EVERY single country in the world, with High-Fructoze corn syrup in 95% of foods including Coca-Cola and bread???

  • @ChorltonBrook
    @ChorltonBrook Před 7 měsíci +1

    10:26 I remember that IT Crowd episode

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 Před 7 měsíci

      Graham Linehan...top man, great writer....😊😊

  • @aaahus4836
    @aaahus4836 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thanks

  • @CarolynAcosta-mw2dl
    @CarolynAcosta-mw2dl Před 7 měsíci

    I enjoyed your mutual ranting! I would like to put in a plug for Mastodon where one doesn't have to post within the confines of a corporate-dictated language.

  • @WalterBurton
    @WalterBurton Před 7 měsíci +2

    👍👍👍

  • @andersgrassman6583
    @andersgrassman6583 Před 7 měsíci

    A resounding 93% of Swedish people support sending arms to Ukraine. (Highest figure in Europe in August 2023.) And Sweden is now very openly preparing all aspects of society for possible war. I think most understand that unless Russia is defeated in Ukraine, the war will just move closer to Sweden. The atacks on the Nordstream pipelines and recently other Baltic seabed connections between Finland, Estonia and Sweden, have already happened, and anyone understands those are already acts of war - just only not overtly declared as such.
    I think from a Swedish perspective, the question is how fast is it practically possible to expand the armed forces and defence production. It's not about the money. I do expect there will be more discussions on the costs and needed systemic changes for other things like pharmaceutical supplies.
    Personally I wish Europe would have acted stronger already in 2008 with Georgia. At least Sweden and others did act with increased military aid to Ukraine starting from 2014. Helping with restructuring and transitioning Ukraine's armed force's into a modern western style military. Otherwise things would have been much worse now. Overt acts of war in Europe would then have been somewhere beyond Ukraine's borders already.

  • @sampotter4455
    @sampotter4455 Před 7 měsíci

    Great interviews. It would be nice if the video of you were clearer.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand Před 7 měsíci +2

    I had no idea that the Hamas attack was on the anniversary of Anna Politkovskaya's murder. It was reading her book, a year after she died that was the beginning of my interest in all of this.

    • @dannydetonator
      @dannydetonator Před 7 měsíci

      @terryhand Strange, but we cannot know if connection is real. Even stranger that they did it a day after anniversary of 6 day war, if i remember correctly.

    • @primalamusica3
      @primalamusica3 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Both happened as a birthday present to Putin... food for thought

  • @carolwilliams8511
    @carolwilliams8511 Před 7 měsíci +1

    These books need to be in bookshops. For people to see as they walk around. I do not use Amazon. And still like to borrow from libraries and wander around bookshops.

  • @user-vb1hy3li1h
    @user-vb1hy3li1h Před 7 měsíci

    100 percent right history is going to condemn this our role in this

  • @Ef554rgcc
    @Ef554rgcc Před 7 měsíci

    What may happen this winter on the front?

  • @LinesSoftwareDevelopment
    @LinesSoftwareDevelopment Před 7 měsíci

    Johnathan, please ask Robin to buy a HD camera

  • @hansleijonmarck9768
    @hansleijonmarck9768 Před 7 měsíci

    The fall of Sanna Marine in Finland looks a bit similar to Boris Johnson in the UK, by miss-crediting.

  • @thepirate6211
    @thepirate6211 Před 7 měsíci

    Robin Hosfall, plx get on youtube!

  • @karimtarab7624
    @karimtarab7624 Před 7 měsíci +1

    26:00 about opposition bloggers is spot on.

  • @MarieGobeille
    @MarieGobeille Před 7 měsíci +1

    🙏💡🌀
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The need for fighting men is a spot on point, but that doesn't work so well when nations are breeding wimps.
    My thought is that military academies for grade school levels need to be revived, possibly even mandated at the federal level, but managed much more locally. These academies would supplement big government schools, but more importantly would provide an alternative that teaches the value of things like masculinity, warrior spirit, responsible use, rather than irrational fear, of weaponry, et cetera.
    Furthermore, such academies would neither admit its students by compulsion or by who has money, but by merit and voluntary both going in and whether or not each graduate chooses military service afterward. However, such groundwork would, as was successful historically, be provided advantages of advancement if they were to continue with a military profession.

    • @VoidAspect
      @VoidAspect Před 7 měsíci +2

      I don't think that's fair, we have many with the will to fight, the issue is that our leadership are so weak and invested in low-risk self-enriching strategies. We had a long period of wealth and peace and that's now over. Time to get to grips with the new world and tackle it head on

    • @paulrevere2379
      @paulrevere2379 Před 7 měsíci

      @@VoidAspect "In this world of give and take, there are not enough who are willing to give what it takes." Certainly not a contemporary western society consumed by envy, ego and entirlement mentality, who also, not their own fault but their parents and grandparents who have sold out freedom for socialistic decadence, again I say who also have no reasonable expectation of enjoying the freedoms and prosperity opportunities of their predecesors. The much greater enemy now is not the Gaul threatening to assault the wall, but the Quizlings getting away with setting fires inside the halls.

    • @GMT_400
      @GMT_400 Před 7 měsíci

      @@VoidAspectI read it as there’s no leadership because the nations are breeding wimps.

  • @sherrillwhately7586
    @sherrillwhately7586 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I hated Johnson, but was shocked that something so minor brought him down. They tried the same thing on Califotnia Governor Gavin Newsom, but he survived.

  • @donaldlococo954
    @donaldlococo954 Před 7 měsíci

    They are winning.

  • @pault.3524
    @pault.3524 Před 7 měsíci

    Forgot to click the "like" button.

  • @jfurl5900
    @jfurl5900 Před 7 měsíci +3

    OH PLEASE just because boris did something right it was only because he saw an opportunity to get the focus off of his overwhelming incompetence and corruption.

    • @SiliconCurtain
      @SiliconCurtain  Před 7 měsíci +1

      There is something to be said for this perspective…

  • @cragboom3
    @cragboom3 Před 7 měsíci

    Dear Jonathan, as a follower of your insights, may I suggest hosting another person who has spoken the plain truths without "censorship" for many years regarding creeping far Left Fascism and fashionable anti-semitism. Pat Condell. Direct, articulate, and demonised for being pro- democracy by the "Liberal media" Keep the focus on the plight of Ukraine in these perilous times.

  • @PhilipCober
    @PhilipCober Před 7 měsíci +4

    The assertion that Roosevelt delayed American entry into WW2 for the purpose of weakening the British Empire is absurd.
    Isolationism was a potent political force right up to the very day of the attack on Pearl Harbor.
    Roosevelt had considerable trouble in passing Lend Lease, Selective Service and in furthering American rearmament.
    At the time in question, when Britain's survival was in doubt, his priority in regard to Britain was to strengthen, not weaken her.
    He needed Britain as a strong ally and point d'appui, to say no more, when he would finally be able to bring America into the War, an involvement that he regarded as inevitable.
    Mind you, Roosevelt was no friend of the Empire, but that only became apparent later when it was clear that the War would be won.
    I'm sorry, but that marred an otherwise excellent interview.

  • @user-vh1qp1uz2d
    @user-vh1qp1uz2d Před 7 měsíci

    Was Robin in 2 Para shooting team Nishan 1976? I was in the 3 Para team.

    • @oldboy379
      @oldboy379 Před 7 měsíci

      That was me.

    • @user-vh1qp1uz2d
      @user-vh1qp1uz2d Před 7 měsíci

      Cant be the man I knew had really dark hair. Paddy (not my real name) Dougan.@@oldboy379

    • @eamonnclabby7067
      @eamonnclabby7067 Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you for your service...

    • @user-vh1qp1uz2d
      @user-vh1qp1uz2d Před 7 měsíci

      Thats very Americian but thank you anyway if that was aimed at me. Robin said he went to enlist as a medic@@eamonnclabby7067and ended up in the parachute regiment. I went to an Army recruiting office to enlist as a Royal Marine Commando and just in time realised I was in the wrong place, looked at the posters on the wall and became a paratrooper instead. As they say in the Regiment the outstanding qualities of paratroopers are, strong as a cart horse, fast as a race horse with the brains of a rocking horse.

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 Před 7 měsíci +4

    because the social media NKVD will just love you to death if you use irony.
    Really appreciate this interview, good men standing and writing against tyrrany.

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred3563 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Top Man.

  • @xxjonboy
    @xxjonboy Před 7 měsíci

    Where did they broach the title: underestimating how destructive and long Moscow's aggression could be.

  • @ginojaco
    @ginojaco Před 7 měsíci +2

    I'm 100% behind support for Ukraine, we should have given far more earlier and be giving far more now. And... a fellow has to make a living, but...the first few minutes were somewhat squirm-inducing - if the message is important to get out, don't charge for it. That written, Robin is spot-on. 👍

  • @peterkiviat9969
    @peterkiviat9969 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What really needs to be discussed, is how Putin loses, even if he defeats Ukraine. He is losing control of the outer republics who realize they are being exploited and denied their benefits. A post war Putin has to deal with hundreds of thousands of widows and disaffected returning veterans that will be passing the word of what happened. Putin nay survive the war, but not the post-war.

  • @catsmeow4264
    @catsmeow4264 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Don't use this, don't use that. He just took the fun out of commenting! Sorry, had to write it.

  • @edwardhammond5582
    @edwardhammond5582 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If Ukraine had been given A10 Warthogs and ammunition prior to Russia turning up at Kyiv, Putin would have realised immediately that he was in serious trouble. Would his ego let him accept that it was such a big blunder he should desist?

    • @dmitryletov8138
      @dmitryletov8138 Před 7 měsíci

      A10 is a flying piece of s***

    • @klaasvakie
      @klaasvakie Před 7 měsíci +1

      Omg! Are you for real. A10s would scare Putin. Nothing the US has in its arsenal of toys, scares anybody any longer! Mickey Mouse Inc.

  • @catsmeow4264
    @catsmeow4264 Před 7 měsíci

    You can always ask to have a comment clarified, if they don't get back then they weren't serious to begin with.