HOW-TO Fix A Chainsaw With No Spark - Ignition Module Replacement

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  • @donyboy73
    @donyboy73  Před 4 lety +25

    Does your chainsaw only run until it gets warm, or will it not even start at all? It could be that you have weak or no spark at all at the spark plug.

    • @gasperajdnik5627
      @gasperajdnik5627 Před 4 lety

      I'm a mechanic 👨‍🔧👨‍🏭, I have 16 experereants.
      I have a chainsaw and I fix it some Times. I know how to repair small engines, cars, motorcycles. I love your videos 🤝8-)

    • @jk30hussain
      @jk30hussain Před 4 lety

      My chainsaw stopped working since last week it has no spark,after disconnecting ignition wire it sparks a lil though. I would like to know what should be done next

    • @zmanphx
      @zmanphx Před 2 lety

      My Chinese chainsaw which is new has the same symptom. Run strong when cold then dies and won't start when warm. I replaced the carburetor. Same thing starts right up when cold. Why would coil fail when warm?

    • @berylmohd
      @berylmohd Před 2 lety

      @@zmanphx eB

    • @zmanphx
      @zmanphx Před 2 lety

      @@berylmohd what is eb?

  • @PTSix-eg4zj
    @PTSix-eg4zj Před rokem

    I normally don't get into comments but I must thank you. I have a Stihl 012AV that most certainly had an issue with dying when it got hot. Your comment that the spark plug can contribute to this saved me! You cannot purchase an ignition module anymore for my saw...so I thought I would at least try the spark plug after your comment...it worked!!! Before the saw would fire up no problem, run great...then die once it was hot. I replaced with a brand new NGK, it fired up, it got hot, it got hotter, it screamed, it wailed...it did not die! Before getting a new module one must try a new plug first. Thank you for your help!

  • @philipjean1086
    @philipjean1086 Před 3 lety +1

    Love my ms261C but replaced both oil pump $120 and ignition module $170 in first 3 years. Have a 1984 sthil 028 wood boss only part ever had to replace was carb boot. I’m pretty handy fixing stuff but Donny your videos are the absolute best on you tube and are very helpful to me. Thank You

  • @idkaybictd1
    @idkaybictd1 Před 5 lety +12

    Thanks for taking the time to upload. Managed to fix 'no spark' issue. It turned out not to be the ignition unit but a combination of bad earth and loose switch cable. You gave me the confidence to properly open up and investigate. Cheers from SCOTLAND!

  • @bedwards495
    @bedwards495 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you so much for all your instructions! You've walked me thru three repairs so far and your step by step diagnosis and repair instructions are so easy to follow. So glad i didn't chuck my ms170 to the trash bin. I've probably cut about four or five cords of almond and fig wood since installing my ignition coil with your help. Again thank you.

  • @frankdigiovanni4946
    @frankdigiovanni4946 Před 6 lety +8

    I would like to add to my previous comment,what is really astounding about you is this you take the complex an make it simple!!!!👍

  • @GregArnett-lo2ip
    @GregArnett-lo2ip Před 4 měsíci

    I especially liked the tip about disconnecting the positive wire isolates it to the coil exclusively. That made me much more confident to order a new coil. Thanks!

  • @duracurvature
    @duracurvature Před 4 lety +4

    Great troubleshooting video. Thanks for running the saw. Always nice to see the repair all the way through. For anyone passionate about IC engines, we always love to see them come alive.

  • @martinjalbert7630
    @martinjalbert7630 Před 3 lety

    You made my day after my Ms660 stopped working when hot. I thought I had flooded it, but no spark, I had a coil on hand, with your instructions it was back at work within 15 minutes. It started 1st pull the next morning. Thanks.

  • @paintrock
    @paintrock Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for all of these videos. Neither my MS180C nor my 026 Pro would start after sitting for a year. Using your diagnostic tips and some relatively inexpensive parts, I have them both up and running.

  • @360Prairie
    @360Prairie Před 7 lety +16

    Excellent video Dony. Your production quality is right up there with DIY tv shows. It's obvious you spend a lot of time getting your shots just right, and editing the videos very well.

  • @stevestoyanac6993
    @stevestoyanac6993 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks Dony! My saw won't start. No spark. The shop is two weeks out to repair it. But; thanks to you, I'll order a new coil kit and fix it myself and save a bunch of money by doing so.

    • @richardboston2148
      @richardboston2148 Před 2 lety

      this hus 240 has me stump no spark replaced coil/flywheel removed ground lead also check coil to ground new spark plug and still no spark turn flywheel with drill motor approx 1500 rpm and still no spark any suggestion

  • @vytis3590
    @vytis3590 Před 6 lety

    I tested my spark plug using your method. It was just a bad wire connection to control module and that fixed my Husqvarna's saw starting problem. Thank you so much!

  • @semco72057
    @semco72057 Před 7 lety +1

    I liked the way you diagnosed the problem and fixed that chainsaw. I have a Stihl chainsaw which is hard to pull over and don't want to start for me. The saw have been in the shop several times and I still have problems with it. After the problems I have had my solution is to never buy another Stihl saw again.

  • @mikesmith1473
    @mikesmith1473 Před rokem +4

    Great video Dony, However, I would like to add one more tid-bit of advice. I have a Poulen 2250 that was driving me crazy. I had checked for spark and the spark plug was sparking fine but it would not start. Even with starter fluid it would not start. The carb was good, the gas lines were good, good compression, the spark plug was sparking but it would not run. Then I noticed an unusually large gap between the ignition coil and the flywheel. Why or how that happened I’ll never know. After I properly gapped the ignition coil the old 2250 runs like a new one. Thought I would share that with you so you can pass it on.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 Před 4 lety +3

    Imagine how many Stealerships must hate you for giving us all this good information.
    However, they don't have to worry as 99% of people out there will never try to repair their own equipment. Too busy, or too scared, or too lazy.

  • @dansego3789
    @dansego3789 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video had no idea where the ignition module was and troubleshooting a grounded ignition,fixed myself on the farm saved me time and money thank you very very much
    Dan

  • @jasonpanozzo3317
    @jasonpanozzo3317 Před 5 měsíci

    I passed silver school but your videos really help better than the modules on icademy

  • @WSmith2024
    @WSmith2024 Před 3 lety

    CZcams is great; excellent videos like this allow us DIYs to save a lot of money. Thank you.

  • @fredmartine674
    @fredmartine674 Před 3 lety

    New subscriber here, I have a 044 Stihl chainsaw. Recently, it only ran when it was cold and shut down once it warmed up but now it won't even start no more. I strongly believe it's the ignition module, haven't replace that for many years. Thanks for the info video.

  • @mackjoe3978
    @mackjoe3978 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for the video. Great job, straight to the point with no rambling on how to replace the module.

  • @williamriedel1686
    @williamriedel1686 Před rokem

    Best no nonsense chainsaw tutorial channel.

  • @freddygill3425
    @freddygill3425 Před 3 lety +3

    Great teaching! Very clear and no wasted time. Thank you!!!

  • @fred306801
    @fred306801 Před rokem

    You make it look easy, sometimes things will fall into place and some times not so much.

  • @speedygrasshopper9768
    @speedygrasshopper9768 Před 5 lety

    Thanks, helped me quickly diagnose a Chinese 6200 62cc chainsaw where the on off switch was bad right new from the factory. Once I unplugged that black wire from the coil the spark plug was sparking while cranking. I'm sure that definitely means they don't do quality control or start each one up before packing them up. Anyway, ordered 5 new switches from ebay for half the price that one would cost shipped from a USA seller. While it's probably gonna take up to a month to arrive, I just turn it off with the choke, they turn off fine that way too.

  • @overcomer8217
    @overcomer8217 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your time and knowledge. You have given me the confidence to this seventy year old timer to rebuild my Stihl MS180C. You do a great service. Denny, Caope Cod

  • @donhatcher9796
    @donhatcher9796 Před 3 měsíci

    After replacing the ignition module I tried testing for a spark by turning the flywheel rapidly using my hand. When I did not get a spark I assumed the problem hadn’t been fixed. Come to find out you can’t turn the flywheel quickly enough by hand to get a spark. Once I reinstalled the recoil starter I had a good spark.

  • @turn-n-burn1421
    @turn-n-burn1421 Před 2 lety

    Obviously I'm having these problems since I'm here. I have an MS271, but mine looks newer. I looked up both, ignition module, which I bought and searched coil. Photos online look like the same exact part. I anticipate mine is headed to a repair shop.

  • @100PercentOS2
    @100PercentOS2 Před 4 lety +1

    This video is one of the best I've seen in a while. I learned quite a bit watching.

  • @KerryBatdorf
    @KerryBatdorf Před 2 lety

    Excellent Help. Following your instructions to replace the MS 280 ignition module it now starts right up. However, at one point you mention starting problems could also be in some other part of the electrical system. Now, some time later after cutting a cord or two my saw will not TURN OFF when I move the switch to the OFF position. It sure would be nice to see more info about the other parts of the electrical system and what kinds of problems they might typically have.

  • @robertaguirre8054
    @robertaguirre8054 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks a lot brother have a blessed day 🙏

  • @johnmanning1006
    @johnmanning1006 Před 7 lety +9

    hay dony thanks for donate your time to help others, you make the world a better place.

  • @num1booger
    @num1booger Před 6 lety

    hey pal, southern cally big dood here, i kinow theres naysayers in our world, but after THIS video, why would ya want to do a thumbs down.
    Great Great info.
    Blessings as always, snj

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 4 lety +2

    A business card is usually fine for setting the air gap, as long as it is .010 thick. Some are thicker. The Stihl spec is .15-.30mm, or .006-..012 inches, so a .010 thick business card is fine.

  • @dwoodog
    @dwoodog Před rokem

    Thanks Don. The coil on my little MS211 seems to have gave up. This video was exactly what I needed.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 Před 2 lety +1

    One of the first things I check is the position of the bayonet lug on the end of the spark plug wire. These can be undone by users pulling the spark plug wire, haphazardly. I usually take my carb adjustment screwdriver and insert it in the boot and feel for the bayonet lug in the bottom of the boot. A lot of times it has been pushed back down the end of the boot where it can no longer connect the spark plug If this happens, I pull it out of the boot , connect it back on the spark plug wire and inset it back into the boot and re-check it for spark. A lot of times this fixes the problem, sometimes not. I then troubleshoot the coil if I still do not have spark, but this is my first check.
    .

  • @martincastillo8357
    @martincastillo8357 Před 7 měsíci

    Opps! New coil new flywheel and new spark plug

  • @reginaldharrison8650
    @reginaldharrison8650 Před 4 lety +1

    Dony thanks you so much I had a weak coil it would start some time had me question what was wrong. Your videos are easy to understand God bless you.

  • @johnkosheluk1041
    @johnkosheluk1041 Před 7 lety +3

    I am a stihl tech i like how the inside of the saw was clean

  • @luksurias
    @luksurias Před 3 lety

    4:40 I dont know on witch side i have to put the paper to make space. Thank you for all video you share with us.

  • @MissouriOldTimer
    @MissouriOldTimer Před 7 lety +16

    I've had the spark plug close to the opening and pulled the rope, it does make a pretty good flash when the fuel ignites..lol

  • @jskaboo6400
    @jskaboo6400 Před 2 lety

    Excellent tutorial, I will try on my non-Stihl chainsaw as its not starting.

  • @JoshMcGrath98
    @JoshMcGrath98 Před 5 lety

    Thank you for the very descriptive video. I don't know small engines at all and all other vids say magnets at top, but don't say what they are. So thank you from a new home mechanic for the great video!

  • @McKlusky2012
    @McKlusky2012 Před 6 lety +1

    thank you for showing us how easy it could be to find the reason with ignition problems! Great job !

  • @allmountainsawrepair2241
    @allmountainsawrepair2241 Před 4 lety +1

    dony boy is a great technician.very helpful

  • @BrucesShop
    @BrucesShop Před 7 lety +2

    These coils are expensive. I have been looking for an aftermarket. But no luck. Thanks Don. Great video. I recognised the part # in the your comments.

  • @coma3550
    @coma3550 Před 3 lety

    Thanks Danny for making the universe make sense again. 😊

  • @VoteTeaParty
    @VoteTeaParty Před 6 lety +10

    Excellent job with the "zoom ins" you should contract out to Canadian and American industry.

  • @oldeagle1851
    @oldeagle1851 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent presentation simple/short and clear.

  • @emersoncampbell2661
    @emersoncampbell2661 Před rokem

    Thanks for your through explanation.

  • @jplieurance
    @jplieurance Před 2 lety

    Very good. You explain the process and reasoning very nicely.

  • @marknye51.thefixitguy
    @marknye51.thefixitguy Před 5 měsíci

    great video again Dony. I am working on a new MS261C m-tronic saw that has no spark. I also found that when the chain break is engaged you cannot pull the recoi. I pulled the break cover off and found one of the tension springs was broken. I wounder if that may have contributed to the no spark issue. I'll do some more troubleshooting and make sure it's the coil.

  • @siemonhg
    @siemonhg Před 4 lety +1

    Great instructional video. Thank you!

  • @nancysmith9487
    @nancysmith9487 Před 2 lety

    Both wires were open and frayed before taking it apart, good chance that could be the problem, also double check with multi meter...
    Plus the gaps were way different
    Good job

  • @clint4004
    @clint4004 Před 3 lety

    I picked up a dolmar PS 420 that won't start only pops once..has spark. Immediately suspected the coil..checked flywheel key just to be sure...great video thanks

  • @mercifulmama
    @mercifulmama Před 6 lety +10

    You are a excellent teacher - thank u 4 your help & God bless u :)

  • @timwade8766
    @timwade8766 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you, good stuff

  • @freddyguy6297
    @freddyguy6297 Před rokem

    Good Deal !!! Very helpful. Perfection!

  • @nancysmith9487
    @nancysmith9487 Před 2 lety

    Thank you

  • @treesplease4053
    @treesplease4053 Před 4 lety +1

    Superb, clear advice, thanks very much, job done, my saw is back running so I am a happy boy again.

  • @tomkreye6674
    @tomkreye6674 Před rokem

    Another great and helpful video.
    I have this same saw and can’t figure out how to plug
    the hole for winter operation. Am I missing a part to cover the hole for summer?

  • @spudnickuk
    @spudnickuk Před 2 lety

    All good info. one bit you should mention , that is the Spark plug is a Resistive type and that if you use a none Resistive Spark plug or HT lead type then you will damage your control board.

  • @jimmyduggan323
    @jimmyduggan323 Před 4 lety +2

    Precise and explained simply . Top job :)

  • @curlykipper
    @curlykipper Před 6 lety +2

    great video and super presentation skills. To the point, clear explanations and FREE. Thanks a lot.

  • @nancysmith9487
    @nancysmith9487 Před 2 lety

    Small piece of advice, adjust it first with this paper trick... even if pull the positive lead off. Needs to be close for it to make a sparkling

  • @earlmalmborg5581
    @earlmalmborg5581 Před 7 lety +2

    Donny I would like ,to see a video about what to look for if it's not the module.

  • @davewilson7565
    @davewilson7565 Před 3 lety

    Great channel Donny 👍🏻

  • @richardwallinger1683
    @richardwallinger1683 Před 3 lety +1

    excellentm . loved the cardboard tip.

  • @rightousman
    @rightousman Před rokem

    Great video. Thank you

  • @josehenrynoynay6719
    @josehenrynoynay6719 Před 3 lety

    thanks a lot sir good teaching big help tnx boyet in philippines 👍

  • @tinyb69
    @tinyb69 Před 5 lety +2

    Is ignition module failure a known problem with the MS 270, MS 280 saws? I've had an MS 270 for at least a dozen years, and I just had to replace my 5th module. This last one cost $160 from the Stihl dealer. I use the saw, maybe, 6-8 times a year, so it's not like it's getting a ton of use. I'm just getting frustrated at having to keep replacing a module, when I could buy a brand new equivalent saw for 3 times the price of the module. I'm tempted to just buy cheap aftermarket modules, because, if nothing else, I'll feel like I got my money's worth if it fails in a year or 2. Any thoughts?

  • @mr.redneck2715
    @mr.redneck2715 Před 3 lety

    I’ve had many chainsaws never had ignition module go bad, but had hundreds of fuel issues. It’s never bad to learn how to fix problems.

  • @user-sagar855
    @user-sagar855 Před 3 lety

    Mind blowing bro

  • @Tony-Waldron
    @Tony-Waldron Před 7 lety +7

    Great video, easy to follow and understand.

  • @todddra
    @todddra Před 6 lety +3

    Nice video. Informative, high def, good camera work, Good naration. Thanks!

  • @stormchaser8605
    @stormchaser8605 Před 7 lety +6

    You f'in rock man, thanks for helping all of us DIY'rs along!

  • @douglapointe6810
    @douglapointe6810 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video. Step by step and very clear with great tips.

  • @seahippies
    @seahippies Před 5 lety

    Thank you for the help mate - from Australia *use a playing card 'guage' by the verniers it was 0.9
    I'm getting 2 years from $14 coils from eBay - Carbs for the lower end MS series under $20 as well compared to the Stihl 'Genuine' parts.That genuine coil in OzTralia is about $80 USD

  • @alort5358
    @alort5358 Před 3 lety

    Doc I got a got a stihl fs80r trimer 4137 3401 and put a new ignition coil 4137 -400-1350 and switch is good but no spark? Thank you for the videos you doing a good job!

  • @ronhammar1154
    @ronhammar1154 Před 3 lety

    I had a problem with a coil on a TORO 2 stroke lawnmower. I really like that lawnmower so I called the dealer and a new coil was $240.00 . It was on a Kawasaki engine and those parts are almost as expensive as Honda parts. It would fail when it warmed up and sometimes had no spark at all. If I disconnected the plug and turned it with a cordless drill it would bring back the spark but it was only temporary. I decided it was a moisture problem. I put the coil in the oven for 20 minutes at 275 degrees F ( I could have made cookies at the same time). LOL I put it on the machine and I had spark and then cut the grass. Then I took it off and coated it with 5 minute epoxy but again only a temporary fix. I pulled it off and cleaned the epoxy off with a wire wheel and then coated it with 2 coats of shellac. Shellac is something that will penetrate and seal much better than anything I could think of. That was 3 years ago and it is working fine. If I fixed small engines for a living I would never do that for a customer unless they wanted me too but that could be a lot of work for nothing if it was a different problem but a new coil for $240.00 was a good reason to do it. I like your videos. You are one of the few that knows what they are talking about.

  • @thomasdingo5191
    @thomasdingo5191 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, great video very well done. I can go and replace my coil with confidence now.

  • @paulhaines5755
    @paulhaines5755 Před 4 lety

    Awesome vid. Thanks! Think my 064's got a bad one. Runs good till hot, dies won't start. Now I'm at the point where it simply won't start and spark is present but seems kinda random or where you really got pull it to see it. I'll try the things you show here. Thanks!

  • @cncbuss1
    @cncbuss1 Před 6 lety +2

    Excellent, excellent video with The perfect amount of details to troubleshoot the problem on my Husqvarna 136. Thanks very much Dony! Luckily, my coil module is less than $20 online.

  • @aclive2022
    @aclive2022 Před rokem

    for a 021 Stil the coil is currently $75 OEM. $15 for it on amazon

  • @peterlambert-gorwyn6065

    Really good, helpful and informative guide. Thank you

  • @tonym6920
    @tonym6920 Před 7 lety +2

    Great video Dony!

  • @k9road
    @k9road Před 2 lety

    great, many thanks

  • @irenemackenzie3232
    @irenemackenzie3232 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video Tony, very informative and super easy to follow.

  • @uncleputz2033
    @uncleputz2033 Před 2 lety

    On the Stihl 048 AV electronic chainsaw, what is the proper name for the circular part that is under the flywheel? and how do you test it to make sure it is good or bad.
    Thanks for your time

  • @zipper8089
    @zipper8089 Před 2 lety

    I found ( after 3 coils and many hrs) the best thing to use to set coil gap is printer paper

  • @johncurrie1789
    @johncurrie1789 Před 2 lety

    Good video. Simple, clear explanation.

  • @williamironmonger6464
    @williamironmonger6464 Před 4 lety

    Thanks donnyboy after watching several of your video's I gained enough confidence to rebuild an old jonsered 2150 and she runs well

  • @angelas622
    @angelas622 Před 4 lety

    check to see if the coil is dirty. When I took off the coil before ordering a new one, i found there was so much dirt built up on the coil 'foot' or whatever it's called that it wouldn't make a spark. After cleaning and reassembling, the plug sparked so loudly it surprised me.

  • @drewk72
    @drewk72 Před 4 lety

    thank u

  • @homersturgill9172
    @homersturgill9172 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for your help.

  • @johnbarszczak3926
    @johnbarszczak3926 Před 3 lety

    Thanks alot for your video it helped me fix my saw it was the coil awesome job

  • @saidrebia1179
    @saidrebia1179 Před rokem

    Slt.bravo bravo Very good job monsieur technicien merci beaucoup de votre technique personnel

  • @josecordova5513
    @josecordova5513 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for all the valuable information... you inspire me to fix my own equipment... thanks again.....

  • @jamesvines3523
    @jamesvines3523 Před 9 měsíci

    You hurt my feelings a bit. I've been farming, cattle, for @ 45 years. I use a lot of chainsaws. Stihl seems to be the best. Lately, I've had a really hard time in starting my big boy, 066. I find myself going to the smaller units instead.. Finally, I have some really big walnuts to cut down for cutting into boards, and I have to use the 30 inch 066. I finally took it into a repair person, ( fix all my mechanical stuff_, He stated the obvious stuff, cab gaskets, bad gas, all else OK. I asked him to start it. It wore him out. Finally it did start but it was hard for young guy. I asked about a compression release. He said my older 066 did have it and no way to modify it. I purchased a new big bore jug, new piston, etc. (very inexpensive), and it comes with a compressor release. I purchased and replaced. I found, my old 066 jug, did have compression release plug. I could have installed only the release but I went the total replacement. The compression release is no piece of cake. It pops back out on the second or third compression stroke and you can flip your saw or your arm out of socket. Finally, I just pushed down the compression tab, not letting it up, and got the saw hitting and then released the button. This saw is even a bigger-horse-of-saw now! Oh yeah, my feelings were destroyed when you started your big saw and said the older owners are having trouble with the big ones. I guess I will have to run faster to keep ahead of old age. I ain't giving up, I'm only a young 75. Still kicking ASS.... Your three compression soft pulls was very helpful along with the flooding caution! Thanks much. Jim (Sorry for writing a book, I've never talked a woman this way before).

  • @Dinoxt12
    @Dinoxt12 Před 6 lety

    Dony is a good mechanic 4Sure, thanks .And he likes that big power Stihl MS270