The Drinker Fixes... The Multiverse Of Madness
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2022
- Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness was an absolute mess of a story that ruined not one but two great characters in the MCU. But could it have been better? Was there a way to salvage it? Join me as I do my best to work the Drinker magic on it.
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The Drinkers version sounds like a decent Marvel movie from a decade ago.
It really does. It sounds infinitely better than what we actually got in the end
Ironman today would start with Tony vomiting from too much vodka, a portal opening and a Stark Industries weapon from another universe would fly in and kick him away.
He wakes up at home, asks Jarvis to built him some flying suit, Jarvis adds a light into its chest and we go on an adventure with some sidekicks and twerking a world ending threat, cause Tony vomited on one guy's shoes and didnt pay for a clean up, so noe this guy wants a revenge and destroy the world.
yea i dont agree with everything he said, but its 95% better than the actual movie we got
That's what happens when it is written by an actual writer, not a box checking diversity hire, who is only there to push tHe MeSsAgE
@@TheInfamousRPGGroup-on-Rumble the thing I really don't agree with is that nobody really cares about Christine so just throw her out
“I shifted the narrative focus from Wanda and back to Strange.”
And somehow you managed to give her more character in this than in the actual movie.
Likely due to the sudden appearance of consistency in motives and, well... more characterisation than zero. America Chavez was literally a mcguffin, but wands was basically anything she needed to be at any time in the script. You can't characterise things that shift at a whim to move the plot along.
Crazy. this story makes me appreciate Wanda, the other one made me realize she's just a sick monster playing hero.
In this story Evil strange doesn't need Wanda at all. All he needs is Vishanti.
Also somehow he manipulates such that they enter his universe. How is it even possible to manipulate such a thing?
facts
True
It’s crazy how this 1 dude made a better story then these millionaire marvel writers
They don't want good stories, they want consumable sludge for the entertainment-addicted masses, slowly shitting *THE MESSAGE* into our mouths like the good little livestock we are.
"writers". If you ever wrote a D&D campaign, you probably have more writing experience than these people.
Didn’t you know Marvel was just a small indie company…….
@@bobbyp8902 was this movie made by a small indie company? No? Well then why are you bringing this up.
@@dylantoney6971 Sarcasm...I'm aware Marvel isnt a small indie company and instead a global conglomerate that pumps out garbage for entertainment. I was clearly being sarcastic. If you look at my other comment from a couple days ago...
"I would watch this proposed movie and enjoy it way more than the shit in a bag, disguised with marvel cologne, absolute garbage motion picture they gave us. The movie the Drinker imagines stays true to the motivations of each character as we have come to know them, just like he states. Marvel is dead and has been pumping out visual diarrhea mixed with narrative brain drool for quite some time now strictly for cash grabs. Every character in the movie gets dumber as the movie progresses, if you can call it that, all of which eventually end up in a IQ wasteland where the average marvel superhero is about as smart and dispensable as a tree stump. I vote that The Drinker, alcoholism and all included, direct/write the next marvel movie."
Wow, a version of this movie that doesn't neuter or degrade the heroes we've come to love. A Wanda that actually learned from her mistakes and made a sacrifice that didn't feel hollow. A Strange that logically would question his place in everything and is the actual centerpiece to his own movie. Bravo, Drinker, and thank you.
So.
Exactly what the original MoM is?
@@Dragonage2ftw ummm.... no. Wandas “sacrifice” was pointless as she caused all the trouble in the movie. Dr strange was severely underpowered and didn’t use any of his over powered abilities against Wanda. Dr strange not being the sorcerer supreme anymore was dumb af and disrespectful to his character. They brought Charles Xavier in who is extremely powerful and Wanda beat him in his own game (mind control). I was looking forward to the movie for years bcuz I love dr strange, but I was severely disappointed, I will probably never watch it again
@@Dragonage2ftw Not really. Don't be fooled, this film was nothing like it should have been. Was it entertaining, suspenseful, and intriguing? Sure. But in terms of character, everyone this film is a hollow shell written by shriveled, miserable husks with degrees and the required Twitter bios.
The Drinker’s version is a thousand times better with just the simple fact that it redirects the focus of the movie back to Dr. Strange instead of Wanda being the whole plot
That's what I said. Thought this was a scarlet witch movie.
@@justintime41776 You weren't wrong, it was
Honestly for the amount of screen time given to her, she should have been the title character. I understand the reason they gave her so much screen time was to satisfy feminists. Wanda is honestly my favorite character so I liked it, but they did her so dirty and the ending was so cheap. We all know she is coming back, if you don’t see a body they ain’t dead, but it’s marvel so even a dead body can still be brought back.
I really hated the "muh children" plot.
Idk how much I like Wanda... The thought of them thinking she can do what she'd done in westview and it be justified is a bit horrifying. She's not even good villain territory she knew what she was doing was wrong and didn't care.
The irony that Drinker, one of the “misogynistic right wing assholes who is threatened by strong women,” managed to make Scarlet Witch an actual likeable character and heroine with plenty of agency and power that feminists keep saying they wanna give their heroines
With how much I love the person Wanda was prior to her own show, this was one of the most cathartic videos I've watched in a long time.
Drinker’s Wanda even manage to become a villain and then become a hero again without giving us whiplash
Drinker doesn't just crap on everything that has a whiff of social commentary for clicks. He actually makes solid story fix suggestions.
Thing is the definition of "agency" for most post-modern feminists is just hating men while being perfect and better in every way. Most feminist harbor resentment towards men either because their dad didn't love them enough or they have a hard time maintaining relationships with them due to some unchecked childhood trauma
lol
What if instead of evil strange “somehow surviving” Thanos’s victory over Earth, Thanos left him alive to forever live with the knowledge that in one possible future he won, but he exists in one of the 14 million realities where he lost? Could be some good extra motivation for his turning evil, as well as a good antithesis to Wanda’s eventual acceptance that she is happy in another universe. While she accepts it, evil strange is unable to cope with his failure
I like that idea.
I'd perhaps also go a step further - Evil Dr. Strange looked into thousands of different realities (just as the current one did). The only victory he saw was when he gave his own life. However, he wasn't willing to make that sacrifice - he wasn't willing to hand control to his team and trust completely in them to make the right decisions afterwards. He had to be the one holding the knife. In the end, though, this attempt to maintain control was what ultimately cost his Avengers the battle and caused them to lose to Thanos.
Nah.
That’s dumb.
It doesn’t fit the rest of the film.
@@dr.cliche7560 I don’t think this is realistic as dr strange was willing to be turned into dust in infinity war
@@matthewfong2976 Yeah, but we're talking about a different Dr. Strange from a different universe.
@@dr.cliche7560 I actually like that.
''He had to be the one holding the knife.'' would say so much about both Stranges as ours also likes control but is willing to make sacrifices.
Meanwhile his counterpart couldnt bear to make the sacrifice, He is still as resillient and stubborn as our Strange to think he could make it work. He cant, which is why he turns to the dark magic and eventually becomes someone else.
When Wanda killed Xavier, it pissed me off she did it inside his head. He should absolutely hold command over telepathic matters, and her own abilities there should be enough for her to momentarily resist, that’s it.
What I would have accepted in a heartbeat would be her fighting and struggling to move in the physical world while he tore apart her mind to help heal her, and she killed his body just as he released the Wanda in that universe, giving his sacrifice meaning as two Wanda’s battled the Darkhold from within.
He's just too old to be believable
All of the illuminati were too weak for Wanda's plot armour sake.
Reed Richards is somehow one of the dumbest people in the room when he should be the smartest...
Agreed, Prof X is one of the most powerful telepathic mutants in the Marvel universe.
Honestly I just want Dr. Strange to have SOME consistency in his power. Sometimes he’s strong, sometimes we’re just told he’s strong, sometimes he gets tossed by a tentacle, sometimes he doesn’t use magic barriers when he could..or the mirror dimension and sometimes that is weak.. it’s a character where you constantly have no idea if he can handle the current enemy he’s facing since his powers are basically as strong as the writers needs for the plot
Eventually the cosmic characters of the mcu will be inconsistent like the comics
Basically Superman, sometimes he takes on living concepts, other times he gets folded by someone like Grundy in some back alley.
Unknown Variable It’s really annoying. The comics did a better job and same with the underrated doctor strange animated movie. I’d have it be where the sorcerer supreme title gives a sorcerer the ability to harness more magical energy from dimensions and bypass the incantation process. But the latter process makes the spells weaker.
Also the user can feel more mental/ physical strain. I’d also have personal magic where the user can draw upon their own life force and create shields, astral projection etc.
The caveat being the effects are less powerful. I’d also have the mirror dimension be a place where sorcerers can only use personal magic and can’t draw on dimensional magic. The exception is using a sling ring to escape. Sling rings allow the user to generate portals.
That’s exactly right. Each writer does their own thing. In the comics, they follow a set of rules, in the movies, they just do whatever they want. No structure.
this is one of the biggest problems with magic as a whole
like for example, what *can't* wanda do? she could've turned thanos into spaghetti if she wanted to according to mom
I respect the man who doesn’t just critique, but provides solutions. Well done Drinker, you have a gift.
It's because the drinker isn't bogged down by the "Hollywood IT thing of moment". He doesn't adhere to the diversity/inclusion/gender heavy handed writing of studios, and he certainly doesn't pull punches to what is good or bad in a movie. He just simply suggests repairs to the holes and other plot devices to go from a patchwork of badly written dialogue and script, to something that resembles a plausible story.
This is why CZcams is such a great place for alternative entertainment and information. It brings in people like the drinker who actually cares about the quality of a movie and instead of just blatant criticism and finger wagging, he brings logical and thought out solutions.
So in summary, CZcams and The Critical Drinker bring in a breath of fresh air to a foul, weak willed, and stench ridden movie industry whose only premise at the moment is to lecture and confuse the average moviegoer who simply wants entertainment.
@obama potato How is it weird? They married off young then.
Well done? he didn't even tell us if America's parents are lesbians or not, you know... the important stuff!
He doesn’t, but okay.
@obama potato I haven’t read the books, but if that’s what takes place in the books, then a screen adaptation is going to present exactly that to the audience. Maybe they’re sticking to the source material…but I could be wrong.
A movie that makes Wanda actually likeable and understandable, and brings focus back to the main character!
The movie we really needed!
Which one?
Exactly
Nope. The damage has already been done since WandaVision. Should've made Agatha the true villain all along and not someone who stumbled upon Wanda and just made her way inside Westview. Agatha's plans should be to manipulate Wanda into thinking that she is a normal suburban mom. Agatha would enslave an entire town in order to keep Wanda preoccupied while also drain Wanda's power to make herself more powerful. Eventually due to outside intervention, Wanda would regain her mind, defeat Agatha and decided to break the spell that enslaved Westview, sacrificing her own happiness to save the people. But in the end those she saved would be turn against her because they thought it was all Wanda's doing. Thus making her a target for the government and what will also drive Wanda to the edge. Turns out, Agatha is using a powerful spell from the Darkhold to manipulate her and even after she broke the spell, the effects still haven't wear off completely and would still affect Wanda's mind, causing her to obsessed over how to bring Vision and her children back.
I liked her in MOM
I really wish I could watch your version, not just because it fixes perspectives and motivations in an interesting way, but also because it sounds more like a *multiverse* movie. Instead of saying that one main character is a MV traveler and dipping their toes into two other universes, it brings mention to more possible uni’s and shows more variants of Dr. Strange.
One thing I like about Drinker's version is that it makes Evil Strange the terrifying villain he should be rather than a momentary plot device. Strange meeting his darker counterpart should be a moment where we witness the true cosmic threat that Illuminati warned of is realized - where Strange sees with his own eyes the true potential of multiversal chaos at his own hands.
not only is he a terrifying villain, but he is a justified one. He literally IS strange trying the best he can to fix his own earth, his intentions are good, but his methods are obviously evil. the best kind of villain.
Unfortunately almost everything in this movie was just a momentary plot point. Almost nothing or no one was developed at all.
Almost like someone said we need to make a dr strange movie...
Yeah regular Dr Strange being able to just defeat Evil Strange in the movie, was very bizzare to me
More like "we need to make an america chavez movie, but market it as doctor strange."
Your motivation for evil Strange is way better than "I want your girlfriend!"
The real question now is can you ntr yourself 😟
In the end, evil Dr. Strange was basically just Bowser from Super Mario Bros.
It's the Marvel equivalent of "I'll fight you for her!"
As Mauler rightly put it, "incel wizard cringe". 🤣
@@vladpiranha "Your Christine is in another dimension." 🍄🏰
It is amazing how the drinker made Wanda sound like an actual reasonable and merciful character instead of a psychopath with Terrible intentions Also I like how she defeats the illuminati instead of straight up murdering them echoing the mercifulness and how she doesn’t want to harm people for her intentions.
They missed having a true villain who gave into grief to show what the protagonist could become, You didn't. Well done.
These 13 minutes made me feel so much more than that entire movie did. This version of Wanda's story could actually become a bit of a tearjerker if executed well, instead of the general 'fuck off' feeling I got from the actual movie. But I guess that's just because we're all sexists, isn't that right Disney?
Disney: Misogamist racist!
Or a 5 hour video
I haven’t seen anything since Civil War or Winter Soldier, because they don’t sound THIS good! I’d probably still be a fan of the MCU. but instead of this, we get She Hulk. For that reason, I’m out.
@@firestick4991 Winter soldier still the best marvel movie. Back when u could have some political aspects without fully choosing a side and focusing on extremely boring issues that we hear about everyday. Not boring because it doesn't happen, just eye-rolling because of how exaggerated they need to make everything
"reimagine tomorrow" is more important than the quality of the movie to Dissknee nowadays.
"You could spend hours going over all the problems, inconsistencies, and failings of the script"
Oh, I think Mauler did his service to the arts and humanity. Tenfold.
5 hours worth
Nearly six hours worth it.
If anyone somehow hasn't seen Maulers very satisfying breakdown of MOV, here's a link: czcams.com/video/dHa9J5RL51g/video.html
Went overboard I'd say. 6 hours video on a 2 hours movie... seriously.
@@vodkavecz He's not called Longman for nothing
One change I'd make to this
Instead of Thanos being responsible for Evil Strange's universe being destroyed I'd have him explain that "a conqueror came" which out Strange would just assume was Thanos but later find out that it was actually Kang. Planting the seeds for the next Avengers big bad and tying it into the other films a bit
Yes that would be sooo good. And i would take it a bit further having an after credit scene, where loki shows up to revel this bit of information to doctor strange and saying something like they have to start warning/planing/gathering heroes for a battle against Kang.
@@DrakenFire cool idea and I love it but save that for the end of Loki season 2
One other thing I'd do: replace the Stan Lee cameo tradition with Jonathan Majors. Have him appear as various different people in all the films to plant the seeds for Kang further and when he finally shows up as the big boss we can reveal that he was undercover and scoping out the universes, getting ready to invade them and seeing what potential heroes could get in his way
@@DrakenFire Or maybe instead, while Wanda and Evil Strange are about to die under the collapsing santum, Loki intervened and saved Wanda, and there reveal this bit of information to her because her powers would be needed to battle Kang.
That would actually be so good and makes sense if the plot leaks of Dr. Strange 3 regarding Strange and Kang’s rivalry to be true! It would kinda make sense that evil Strange survived that reality of his when a conqueror arrived in his universe.
I would cry.
A proper Kang the Conqueror, and Dr Strange-Wanda-Loki as the new Big Three for the Multiverse saga wouldve been soooo gooooood.
In the first Strange movie, Mordo explains sling-rings open portals that allow travel through the multiverse. Chavez is literally pointless.
I actually don't mind her being a living sling ring(walking macguffin, but it's fine). Its just her personality and goals absolutely suck.
Then they should have made it such that wanda destroys all sling rings so they have no choice exept Chavez.
@@Uncledavemeltzer that actually makes sense. That would've upped the stakes tremendously.
@@propheci Agree
ACTUALLY SHE HAS 5 POINTS CUZ STARS HEHEGEDHJHEDD TROOLLED ELMAO
Drinker: “I can’t rewrite the whole story, as much as I would like to…”
…Then completely rewrites the story in less than 10min with one 1000x better than what we got!
His version gave me goosebumps when he describes how Wanda gave up the life Evil Strange was offering her.
How can these dumb activist writers get it so wrong??
Halfway into his story and I'm sold.
And the funniest part, unlike the original version, his version actually has what Marvel wants - strong and interesting female characters.
Phenomenal re-write from the drinker; no idea why most modern shows/movies suffer from terrible, preachy writing.
@@jabarrex Same. It’s more lack
Of
Creativity and lack of passion.
Hearing this version written out genuinely makes me sad for how the actual movie turned out. Your fix had me captivated and longing for the movie to be different than it is, but too bad because Marvel and Disney likely won’t be able to make a movie like you’re proposing again. The glory days of the MCU are likely in the past for good.
I would love to see the Evil
Strange try to destroy everything.
Well you can always bully the studio to make something fans want to see.
SnyderCutForMCU or MakeStrangeStrongAgain.
The message gets delivered
I was.......fine with the movie. I'm well aware of the problems it had, and it's not a plot I'll be pondering anytime soon, but I enjoyed it as a series of cool moments. This Fix has officially ruined the original for me. *It could have been so much better.*
Glory days of MCU ended with Infinity War movie. Now it's just a turd swirling down in the toilet.
@@mikavirtanen7029 💯💯💯. INFINITY WAR was the best!
It's crazy how in 15 minutes you write a better story than a multi hundred million dollar movie
Laziness can overcome all the wealth, good will, and momentum in the world.
Better?
@@caleb3912 yes. MoM was ass.
@@caleb3912 decent atleast
I might need to actually buy one of this guy’s books. If he’s able to turn that trash heap into a movie that sounds really good, his original work could really be something.
The moment you said “Evil Dr. Strange”, I literally exhaled perfection. THAT would have solved most of the movies problems with him being the catalyst for Wanda’s dark deeds. Omg that’s brilliant. You had me interested. That sold the idea.
Much better than what the movie chose, i.e. "what every Strange is capable of", as if he's just a bad guy who needs to "hold the knife" in every dimension. Drinker's version allows for a flawed, human hero.
It's also a better use of the multiverse as the final battle would have multiple Dr. Stranges all teaming up together rather than the pathetic dead Strange vs. Wanda... um, she already beat you and all of Kamar-taj, how can you stand up to her alone? It was fun to have some Raminess in there, but didn't make any sense.
@@truthedministry maybe viewers assume that zombie strange will have different skills that enable Dr. Strange to win this time.....
Only to realize that it was just reskinned strange.
You had me at Wanda hiding out from the government, trying to make peace with what happened at Westview. Right out of the gate, you have a character dealing with meaningful consequences...something that is also in very short supply at Marvel.
I’ll never forget that “they’ll never know what you sacrificed” line…like excuse me. Tf, you held these people captive in a reality of your choosing. You’re not the victim here
@@hunkydory8437 Im still pissed about that line
Yes. Exactly.
@@hunkydory8437 I know what you are saying. But that line, you said. It was never about that, to me at least. I just took as a line about a sacrifice Wanda made to herself, so other people could go back to their lives before her taking them captive. So Wanda had to make a sacrifice so other people could be free of her evil-doing.
@@hunkydory8437 every time I hear that line I want to answer:
"Yeah, because all they'll remember is the thrauma of their minds being imprisoned while their bodies are controlled by someone else".
I got chills at the climax with Wanda’s line about a new life not being really her life to live. Well done sir.
I hereby petition for Drinker to rewrite all marvel movies from Phase 3 on. Goddamn I’d actually pay unreasonable money for a Drinker rewrite of all Marvel films save a few. Top marks man 🤙🏿🤙🏿
This version of Sinister Strange is SO much better! Wanda gets an actual story i can empathize with!
I think if you threw in Wanda’s story from the original into this movie then it would be even better. She could be working off the promise of sinister strange, but I don’t like the idea of the darkhold being what corrupts her. It gives her a cop out she doesn’t need -she is doing bad things out of her own selfish desire not because of a corrupting magical book. In the end of Drinkers movie I could see Sinister strange presenting Wanda with her children, but they see her as the monster she’s become (much like the original) which spurs Wanda to realize that in this mission to be with her family, she’s become a monster unfit to be their mother. She’d then turn on Sinister Strange.
I'm strictly comics when it comes to Marvel. Did Mr. Sinister fuse with Dr. Strange, or what?
@@LikaLaruku Nah. He's just Dr. Strange but...sinister...in appearance or something. Used the Darkhold too much and grew a third eye. Also wants all the Christines.
@@tcb8248 lol to be fair giving their good-looking villains a cop out is a classic MCU trope
I'd say "Hire this man, Marvel", but I know better. Disney's agenda is more valuable than making good stories.
Anyway, thanks a lot Drinker, I loved your version a lot and enlightened me as opposed to what the actual movie did to me.
the question is: what IS dizzy's (and the rest of the filth's) end game...
WHERE ARE they planning to go with their absurdist madness...?
@@MD-ie4tj Sheer fucking hubris that's what they will do with it. Anything they want to that'll make Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum go in unison "Huh?!"
Drinker working for Marvel lol that's a movie right there!!
Check out the company Blackrock. They're the reason everything has gone woke. It's not about pandering to a certain audience, it's about maintaining funding from Blackrock.
@@streetchurchdc164 yup its part of the "fake reset" plan.
gotta make the sheep suffer so theyll BEG for the digital dollar/carbon credits/chinese social credit score system...
you will own nothing and you WILL be happy OR ELSE theyll turn off YOUR money...
basically the mark if the beast.
I HATE that the bible thumpers were/are RIGHT,
Im an ANTI-thiest (no not athiest)
but truth and facts are all LAID OUT before us.
EVERYONE CAN see the plan.
just most scared people REFUSE to admit it.
Why are folks so afraid of truth and facts?
One of my issues with this movie is that absolutely nothing happens to Dr. Strange. In the first movie, he had a great character arc which made that movie so good, but here, it feels like they did absolutely nothing with his character. Your idea of trying to develop his character more, not with new problems for himself, but by self-reflections on his existing problems by seeing the other choices he could've made, better or worse, sounds so much better than whatever they did here! It would've been such a cool way of further developing him.
MoM was Wanda's movie disguised as a sequel to the first Dr Strange movie. Look at the promotional material such as the movie posters and see who takes center stage. Ever since the movie got announced, it was my most anticipated movie post endgame and Spiderman NWH but I was shocked at how disappointing it was.
This story is 500 times better than what we got. Job well done
Think you’ve hit the nail on the head with making the villain be another Strange, makes it more Strange’s movie and also gives more focus on the possibility that our Strange could have turned out that way if given the right/wrong circumstances which felt very glossed over in the released version
Exactly! And it changes the bad writing to show, not tell, Strange's inner conflict.
yeah
I would say that the trailer even made it seems like evil Strange was the bad guy, which would have been pretty cool but hey the mcu always lies with trailers.
The movie needed more weird universes and versions of Strange, they gave Benedict nothing to work with and he still carried the whole movie in his back.
It also stays true to the Marvel formula of having a bad guy with similar looks and powers... 😉
@@theinnerlight8016 tbf that's pretty much the only way to write superhero films lol. Batman needs to fight with hand to hand combat bad guys. Superman needs out of the world villains. Wonder Woman needs a little less strong but stronger than human kind of villain. Aquaman needs water bullshit. Flash needs speedster villains. It wouldn't be that interesting if let's say, IronMan were to fight with a guy who knows magic. This is why I love Infinity War and Trinity vs Thanos fight in Endgame. They nailed that.
It’s impeccable how one person can make a more coherent plot than one of the biggest companies in the world in less than 20 minutes
it might just be because it’s by one person that it’s more coherent.
with different writers comes conflict with different ideas, and with demanding higher-ups comes revisions after rewrites after edits after reshoots. it’s partly why so many indie films are better well written and/or well produced than AAA companies, because there is a tighter-knit pool of ideas and less contrast and conflict between ideas.
@@pumkinpatchwork ye definitely, drinkers plot sounds better off the bat still lol
Or it may be cuz he clearly doesnt understand that it was hinted she was gonna be the villain since WandaVision, ever thought of that?
Look man, Im not saying MOMs perfect, it could definitely use some fixing but the plots still perfectly fine and understandable
@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 still beat tho
@@pumkinpatchwork , too many chefs spoil the broth, eh?
That evil Dr. Strange plotwist, and opening portals so other Strange's would have helped... god, closed my eyes to picture it, and sounds so good.
one addition: in a pivotal (for Wanda) scene, she would visit a universe where her children and Vision were alive, and Vision would say something that would make her realize the error of her ways, and that, in the end, would tip the balance in her psyche, causing her to fight the Evil Strange.
Damn, that actually sounds really good. It’s one thing to rail against bad writing, but it’s a different skillset to fix it well.
Yeah, it sounds good and all... But how many jokes per minute can we fit in this one? I say about 3 j/m.
"Now you could spend hours going over all the problems, inconsistencies and failings of the script-" That made me smile; a hat tip to your mate Mauler who has done precisely that. His lengthy deconstruction of the film is just incredible :)
It's my go-to background listening at work. I think that I've gone through the whole thing 3 or 4 times at this point. The Longman is brilliant (and also introduced me to the Drinker, who is likewise fantastic).
@@jasonfraser7536 Yeah, Drinker is great and I found Mauler (Longman) and Nerdrotic via him and the livestreams.
@Space Ray Engine When i first saw how long it was I did a double take - WTF!?!? I can't even imagine the effort involved putting something like that together. Like drinker, he's very funny and very astute; his riffing on Benedict Cumberbatch's name alone had me in hysterics :D
@@alexbennett4775 Same 😂
i'm incredibly glad someone else realized that she could simply have kids the way everyone else does. instead of the insane plan she had...
All the characters are so much more fleshed out in your version. And I can empathize with all of them so much more.
if ever a movie needed to be rewritten, it’s this travesty. The internal logic of LITERALLY EVERY SCENE is an utter shambles. Seriously, if you were to watch this movie pausing at every critical juncture and ask yourself what they should do in this situation, they will never do that thing. I have no idea how the writer was able to write a script in which every single decision made by every single character throughout the entire movie is suboptimal. it is quite an accomplishment in a way.
„But it’s woke!“
I don’t think people realize that Multiverse of Madness was written by Ryan Johnson. He was subverting everyone’s expectations against by giving us another crap movie
"Galeem Kills The Smash Universe"
@@barnabusdoyle4930 It literally wasnt a crap movie but ok
The sad and fucking annoying thing was that apparently this movie was rewritten around 2 thirds of the movie - Because of covid and the delay that it caused wandavision came out first and so the rewrote the story to fit in with that dumpster fire.
I would love to see the original and if the version we got is an improvement then the original how the hell did they fuck it up that bad.
I like how you included that evil Strange into the main plot. That character was really wasted in the actual film. I thought he would be the main villain because of the way the trailer showcased him.
This also kinda connects to the 'evil' strange from the What If? episode where he inadvertently destroys his universe JUST to try and bring Christine back...
This version is now stuck in my head, and in my head I started to remembering this as a decent movie, damn you Drinker!
Instead of getting transported into different universes in 15 seconds, they should've saved it for the final battle where dreamwalking Strange and America Chavez fights the Scarlet Witch, like every punch America Chavez pulls they get transported into another universe like the Bee World, not only they get transported in that universe, they're gonna interact and use the environment to the Scarlet Witch to make it more unique, that should've been the Multiverse of Madness.
Another problem I had with this movie that no one else talks about was the fact that Christine in multiple dimensions keep using a line about how Dr. Strange always had to be the one holding the knife, meaning he always had to be the one to solve everyone else's problems instead of letting someone else with a better idea or more qualifications rush in and save the day. The problem is, Dr. Strange's only plan for defeating Thanos was to allow himself to die in the snap and let Tony Stark and the remaining avengers handle the situation, meaning he knew full well how to pass the knife on to other people if the situation called for it. Worst of all, the various Christines and other people accusing Strange of always having to hold the knife never seem to offer to take the knife from him; they don't propose other solutions to problems or offer to step in; they just criticize him for fixing everything that goes wrong.
Yeah, that would have been better to mention in the first Dr.Strange movie. It would have shown great character growth in End Game.
Not to mention that Strange used the time stone to the tune of 14 million + outcomes and what Strange did was the only path to to defeat Thanos.
I don't think it's a reference to his need to literally be the one to act, but that it needs to be his decision. Regardless of his death in the movie, he was the one in the driver's seat because it was his decision that set them all on this path. Idk, I could be wrong, but that's what I got from it.
Is it just me, or does this seem eerily similar to a (feminist) woman always lamenting about how "the men" are always in charge and making decisions, yet she never takes the initiative (much less the responsibility) to do anything and be accountable for her decisions
"You've got to better."
The drinker fixes series is quickly becoming a shared canon among people who appreciate fine storytelling
Damn right he is
@@DRINKERSBALDHEAD what an oddly specific bot comment
This is quite good! You fixed the story by making it (and the characters) fit into the overall continuity much better and even threw in some classical Marvel script elements that they would want to have to appease the general audience (like a pretty good flow of CGI fights). Kudos!
Astounding! Now that sounds like a more compelling story, the movie we never got to see.
I still remember that one guy who didn't have Disney + and saw Multiverse of Madness at the pictures. For him, this was Wanda's first appearance since Endgame. That confusion over Wanda suddenly being evil was not only hilarious but proof that relying too much on continuity will bite you in the arse if it's not accessible to all.
To be honest even the Tv show doesn't justify Wanda turning evil so suddenly in any way. I was so surprised to see her as the villain after everything she went through in WandaVision where she looked like she finally started to accept her grief
America: "I cant control my powers."
Strange: "Yes you can."
America: "Yes I can."
I present to you: The dumbest script alive.
Indeed. Terrible writing
Almost as bad as when Wanda looked at America and shook her head making the noise "mm mmm" and America brilliantly replied with "mm hmm"
Somehow, Palpatine has returned
"You have not seen what I have seen."
"I have seen enough."
"You have not seen what I have seen."
@@Ihavethetouch exactly my thought
I’m sure it’s already been said, but it bears repeating: wow, Marvel’s stories would be decent in the hands of a competent writer and storyteller.
I had the exact same idea about Evil strange. He was a very interesting character in what if. I was very surprised with how little screen time they gave him.
Imagine allowing a villain to have some sympathetic motivations even if they are misguided, or allowing a hero to make a bad decision, take accountability for their mistakes and grow - insanity.
Imagine more that the very franchise we're bagging on now had both of those things in earlier, better movies. How the mighty fall, right?
It's crazy because I feel Man of Steel had this.
@@ireplytostupidpeople4750 Ehhh, the issue with man of steel isn't that it was a bad superhero movie, it's that it was a bad Superman movie. Superman is held to a different set of standards and criteria to most other superheroes because he's essentially supposed to be the bar other heroes are measured by.
The best part of Drinker's pitch is it continues off the theme of the first film and develops Strange.
Strange in the first act of the first film easily matches the same origin story you'd have for a villain. He is a total ass to everyone because he has talent and is an ass and resents people after he loses it. He chooses correctly and becomes heroic in service of others.
Having the sequel unwrap his thoughts on his transition and show doubts about whether he's actually a hero works.
"Pain is an old friend" was a great quote summing up what caused him to move from just a man to a superman. Continuing on that theme of pain reflected in Wanda and in Dark Strange would have been great to watch.
Oh well, I guess all I get is my own fan fiction and pitches from Mr Jordan as MCU serves us crap.
So basically Endgame? 😆
The most tragic thing is this movie had the potential to be great. With Sam Raimi directing, the score done by Danny Elfman, competent, charismatic lead actors playing familiar characters, and the setting of the multiverse itself. But what we got was a complete mess
It's such a missed opportunity that all those promising ingredients for a great film were right there, but horribly wasted.
They should have let Raimi write the script.
Its a shame the script was cranked out in a week
The most important element is still the story
I don't think it's possible to come up with good stories around this multiverse idea. Why should anyone care about anything if everything is not just possible but actually happening? Win one battle but countless other "you's" lost and bad stuff happened and people died somewhere else in another universe all the same anyway? Not to mention lazy writers just cannot resist the urge to "plot twist" and subvert with stuff with no warning from yet another invented 'universe' that'll barely ever be mentioned again.
The core of it, that there are multiple "you's" who are somehow recognisable as "you" and share elements of history and superficial appearances and traits, but every major element of character/motivation/outcome is the product of the interaction of circumstantial differences? It seems too close to dissolving the definition of individual and indulging a nihilistic construction of the self where nothing that "you" are really matters because the most important thing about the development of "you" are your circumstances, and "you" don't need to fix anything because "you" were never the problem. TL;DR I think there's a profoundly unhealthy obscure layer that lurks underneath "The Message" and the lesson at the end in this Drinkerverse of Madness version about doing the best with what you have, is a far better moral lesson to lecture the audience with.
We need Drinker as a Hollywood screenwriter for these films!
Just finished watching all of these videos! It’s been a ride to hear your changes. Just amazed at how you did make each one better while still incorporating the main parts of the movie.
Now my sadness …. There are no more. DO MORE! I’m ready for some more fixing. There’s plenty to fix out there!
I'm not a fan of alternate realities, but if I ever wished for one, it's one where those audiences got to watch this version of Multiverse of Madness. Almost cried hearing this Drinker Fixes
Same
Me too.
Me too, it was emotional for me.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I don’t know if it’s because he gave Wanda what she deserved and I was vividly imagining his version of events, picturing how sad of an ending his film would be or just tears of frustration from NOT having a satisfying resolution to one of my favourite characters. Either way, this fix definitely got me a little emotional
@Victor Ngo everything everywhere all the time is alternate timelines done right. The story is great, there’s a reason why the daughter is homosexual, it actually has a narrative it’s not just checking a box to meet the message quota. She’s the last of the bloodline and her grandfather will not have his name or bloodline carried on, it ends with her. They are also very traditional Asians, further driving the point home. It’s got layers on layers, it’s not just a random thing they threw in the movie. Such amazing writing and makes you think of real world situations
Having Wanda mind-control most of the sorcerers while they are trying to defend Kamar Taj without her realising what she is doing would be such a good "Oh no!" Moment during the film.
And is also far more on-brand than throwing magic fireballs everywhere. Her strength has always been mind magic.
@@TheFlyingNostril I'm still convinced she could destroy Tanos without problems. That guy was so commited to his goal, showing him a world were he failed utterly would have crushed him.
Forget throwing things at him, just make him believe he failed and sacrificed Gamora for nothing. Instant win right there.
I wasn't fully paying attention to this video as I'm studying, and I thought he was talking about the comic book version, so when he said, "So that's my version" at the end I was like wait what
Petition for the Drinkers to work with Scott Derrickson for the third Dr Strange movie. Pls dont make Waldron write the nx one. It was such a disaster. As Cumberbatch said in one of the interviews, he felt that he was the only one who understands Strange’s character on the set, making him always reminding them (director+writer) thats not how Strange would act in a given situation.
Lol this movie’s writing was awful 😂
I love how Drinker does not just rant about all the flaws, but really does the work and have great ideas how to make sense out of stories… I would really love to hear His version of Rings of Power.
Yes please. His version would be respectful of Tolkien's work
His version would be, don't do it. The end.
@@randomDaved Amen to that
@@taniromanenko3902 Do Silmarilion, not as a running show, but each episode (or double) focusing on a single story. Maybe?
@@johnyshadow would be awesome! If The Drinker would agree...😄
Your version not only improves the Dr. Strange movie, it rescues the immoral and retch-inducing Wandavision at the same time. Well done.
Honestly, both versions are shite. Wanda hasn't been good since Endgame. Wanda has been the MCU punching bag with all the loads of terrible stuff happening to her and the Drinker is just beating the same dead horse with her is just plain bad as well. Wanda is one of my favorite comic characters and I think one of the characters that has faced enough adversity and should have had peace. Wandavision should have addressed grief and she should have had someone help her be responsible for her actions.
Hats off sir. I really like the sound of this version instead of what we got. It does the characters of Wanda and Strange FAR more justice. The idea of evil Strange being the villain already improves it tenfold and adds a much more intriguing dynamic to his character’s arc in the movie and where it would leave him at the end. Seeing the other Stranges fighting the good fight alongside him would remind him that whatever path he has taken, he’s a good man who simply did his best and could’ve ended up A LOT worse 👏🏻
I had goosebumps while listening to your version of the movie! Well done!
Wow, Wanda knowing that the reality where her kids are alive… isn’t hers to live and knowing at least a version of hers is happy somewhere legit made me shed a tear.
Something that the original film does?
@@Dragonage2ftw does NOT!!!
@@Dragonage2ftw It does, but the path to get there was clunky at best.
@@Dragonage2ftw i guess better motivation and character development made it more important to me. 🤔
That would be extremely dumb. You could right now accept everything wrong with your life because "there is other good version".
Ya know having Wanda be promised to get into a dimension where she died and her familly is missing her would have helped to make her look less selfish.
She isn't just trying to get kids for herself, she is also now trying to give a mother to kids that have lost there's
Sorry, it makes *too much* sense for modern Marvel ^^
Well said 👏🏼
Except for this tiny, little, insignificant correction…
*theirs
Ah, much better :]
She literally trying to be a magic version of Rick Sanchez.
Theirs* also yes
How can one man summarizing the plot of a story through just a spoken monolog be so much more entertaining than an actual movie?
That's how far hollywood has fallen in one decade. But it also shows how competent the Drinker is not only a critic, but also as a writer.
Thank you very much. Not only have you concretized the point you already made about the bad shape Marvel is in and the wasted opportunity this movie was, you also entertained my ideas-absorbing brain 10 times more in 10 minutes than all the Marvel products since endgame together.
This really needs to be made into a full, proper story. This basic outline hits home. 👌
Thanks for this, Drinker. You helped to cleanse the stain of that abomination from my mind.
Drinker: "You could spend hours going over all the problems in the script."
MauLer: "Hello there ladies and gentlemen..."
I was legit expecting a flash of the Long Man's icon when he said that.
I really did think Evil Strange would be the villain, so it's kinda strange how little of a role he plays in the film by comparison. This rewrite honestly handles Strange's character so well. The first movie was about him learning to understand that he's not the most important, that other people have lives too, and that cementing a good legacy can mean making choices that aren't necessarily the best for himself. It makes perfect sense in the sequel to have him falling back a little on his old selfish ways and wondering if he really did make the right choice, while the multiverse shows him Stranges that are each successes and failures in their own ways to help him understand that it doesn't matter. Stop trying to be the perfect surgeon, fixing every mistake. Make the best with what you've got, because there is no such thing as perfect. With this, he'd let go of the last part of the close-minded, stuck-up perfectionist he was in the beginning of the first movie.
Even if it is really similar to Everything Everywhere All at Once, that was a really good movie, so who cares?
Imagine having name like evil strange and he is good but, kinda strange is bad lol
Well said. It would also reflect society's perfectionism (to be happy you must be rich, popular etc.) and give MUCH better mindset (your state of mind matters MUCH more to be happy). At least MCU nailed Thanos in "Infinity war", who reflects "dumb genius hero" like Twitter warriors.
What ya mean? They threw musical notes at each other and did serious damage yo
What an amazing story you've told, I imagined every small detail you mentioned and teared up listening to it.
Love it, would definately watch your version
That sounds really good, even for a non Marvel fan. It sounds like it respects the power level, significance and experience of each major character.
Actually this version is a pretty solid interpretation of the character that we’ve come to know. It would’ve been a great movie. No reason to start from scratch. Reining in all those inconsistent powers and stupid decisions alone would get a great links to improve the movie.
I’m not sure many of going to appreciate just how much your version improves the mess that we got. I tried to do a similar thing for my own head cannon and I was just unable to fix this movie but you did. Well done. Me thinks you deserve a draught of good ole’ hundred year old single malt.
This movie wouldn't be quite a mess, but it certainly wouldn't be more than a 7/10. The villain just isn't fleshed out enough, and the powers of the trio aren't fully utilized, but I can look past that. I just can't look past the bait and switch of who was the villain, that bumped it down from a 9/10 to a 7/10. Overall, I'd still recommend the drinker's version.
@@funnyman4744 Drinker's version is exactly the type of decent script Marvel used to make pre-Avengers 2. Not perfect but a solid comic book movie that makes the most out of convoluted worlds and characters regardless.
yeah
One think that ruined this movie for me was that just like Spiderman 3 Raimi let his rather unique brand of humor seep into this movie. His humor works very well in Evil Dead but in a mainstream blockbuster it just doesn't. Wanda is going to murder people so cue comedy zombie Dr Strange puppet and bad cgi, cut it out Raimi!
@@funnyman4744 you basically need to cut out either christine or america for time to build the villain. But face it, disney executives won't let you.
Wow. Dude, that was amazing. You miraculously flipped two hours of my life that I had totally written off, into time well spent, when coupled with your version. Bravo!!
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That was such a great reimagining of the story - thank you!
Definitely a better version that feels competently structured. Seriously, this version of Evil!Strange sounds like such a good villain! I can actually see version of Strange going down that path after losing everything and falling back on arrogance and narcissism to try and fix things.
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Chavez could work if you chucked the stupid "American" theme and instead played up the toll dimension hopping has taken on her. Make her a foil to Wanda by having her awaken her powers after losing her own family, but found that even finding an alternate version of them didn't heal the pain she felt. Have her be the one person more than anyone who can sympathize with Wanda and talk her down off the ledge.
America was put there to spout nonsense about having two moms and how food should be free.
Someone suggested to make america a foil to wanda,in the sense of she was just losing her moms, while wanda lost her kids. But unlike wanda, america isn't on bloody journey to recover her moms.
It would of been cool to throw in one of the exiles. They are one of my favourite mutant teams. They are a multiverse version
Give a budget to this man, Disney. He has the potential to make a good story for Dr Strange: In The Multiverse Of Sanity.
Nope. He doesn't check the boxes of "The message"
Any decent writer can write a better and more coherent movie than what we got
@@Kromiball It's indeed very easy to fix most mess of best selling books and stories these days.
Overall a single writer can always have the problem to be a single person and just overlook something, even if it's super stupid, but you simply did not think about it.
But when you look at movies: hell, thousands of people work on that and you can't tell me, that none of them, even if you only take that decision making % at the top did not see how fucking stupid it is.
When I write stories, I love when people tive me feed back, so I can't improve it and my writing skill overall.
Youre saying that as if a good story is the primary goal for them.
@@Kromiball 💯💯💯
I dont know why, but the part that sticks with me is Wanda sacrificing herself and basically saying "at least some versions of me got to be happy".
The beauty of her character realizing that she had to suffer to give even other versions of herself a chance to be happy.......
That was brilliant. I never saw it. I figured it would suck. But, I would totally watch your version. Thanks.
This pretty much just shows how much Marvel needs actual writers to give their writing staff's scripts a revision to make something coherent and half decent.
Fanfiction writers
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Marvel don't need to worry, MCU is still too big to fail. All they need is some lame key-jinglings,like cheap cameo appearance or name-throwing, have a partially finished script, and pour some CGI into next outings, and boo-yah, hundreds of millions revenue, baby!
I love that in this rewrite, Wanda remains flawed, but is still a good person at heart. Which is exactly what the original is trying to tell us, but failing hard at doing.
This is my first time watching your Fixes videos, Drinker, and while this version may not be a masterpiece as a completely new story from scratch probably would, it's certainly much better written, and the characters feel more like themselves compared to the confusing mess we actually got! I'll be sure to check out your other Fixes videos sometime in the future!
This version is too good that I forgot the original story
I went to go see _Spider-Man: No Way Home_ over the Labor Day weekend, and it reminded me of how underpowered they made Dr. Strange in _Multiverse of Madness_ when compared to his power in the former. In NWH, he was casting reality-altering spells left & right and just _felt_ more power, even if all he did was do a couple spells like mind-wiping and utilizing the mirror dimension.
Not to mention the fight with Thanos. He used the red bands of cyttorak (the juggernaut must exist!), images of ikkon, the sword of vishanti, hosts of hoggoth, suns of cinnibus and the mirror demension. I love that fight.
lets be honest those other clips are sh!te, here's an even better clip hehehe czcams.com/video/aT8Ari_kag4/video.html
I mean he did seem weak in NWH, losing to peter to geometry
I think part of it though was that he was trying to beat Peter without hurting him, which gave Spidey the gap in the door (geometry) to beat him. If Dr Strange unleashed from the start, Spidey would have had no chance.
@@shadow_1363 Well Peter took advantage of the fact that Strange didnt want to hurt him.
“Turned one of the coolest and smartest characters into a clueless idiot who’s basically an extra in his own movie” Do you mean Loki? You can thank Michael Waldron for that.
Pisses me off that he screwed up Loki and Doctor Strange, and couldn't even keep the multiverse nonsense consistent while he did it.
They did it to Thor as well, seeing a pattern yet? Male characters are seemingly not allowed to spearhead their films anymore.
Wow this is sooo good, you just twisted the motivations and reasoning
Damn, a proper sendoff to Wanda where she has a poignant and solemn moment of being content in the knowledge that even though she'd had a rough go of it, somewhere out there was a Wanda who had a happy life... What a damn shame we didn't get this instead.
Love these Drinker fixes. Hope you do another one soon.
Drinker fixes Dr Strange MOM
MCU fans: “Impossible”
The first script of multiverse of madness with Nightmare as the villain. The Wanda burn into madness was slowly and was teased for another movie if i remember good
That was a good movie
when you need to use the core storyline and concepts that we got in the movie - like the ruleset here established - than yes, it is impossible to salvage this shitshow of a movie.
Dam, I hate when people fix storys like this because it just makes me feel like I'm being robbed by Marvel
That’s cause we are you gotta love the house of mouse
You were anyway
That because you were, they don't care if they hire a bunch of hacks all they care about is your money.
Bravo! I would love to see this version.
DRINKER, WOW! Do you have any writing classes that you offer?!? Im so serious. I absolutely detested America Chavez’s character in this movie, but your retelling brings up so much potential in her story. NOW, i can picture a scared 15/ 16 yr old girl whose expected to perform to the same level of skill as a seasoned strange who saved their universe, and a mentor (strange) who isnt adept at mentoring anyone and can come off quite gruff and harsh about meeting expectations and performing when the time comes. There couldve been believable tears, strong themes such as “when the time for performance has come, the time for preparation has passed.” And also what it means to be a guide to someone who needs you when youre at your lowest. Big big win. Loved it!
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One thing that separates Will from many others - he actually suggests improvements and isn't just shitting on the things he dislikes.
Look at me I know his real name
Holy parasocial relationship Batman, he knows the CZcamsr's real name!
The #1 solution should be to actually make it a movie about Dr. Strange
Literally, two potential plot lines they could’ve expanded upon with doctor strange: mordo’s war against the sorcerers or his consequences of trying to help Peter living his lifes becoming problems of the multiverse wing is taking about.
But no… Wanda is the villain instead of any of these plot lines and potential villains.
It really was basically a fanfaction for Wanda if I’m being honest
Yep same problem that piece of warm dogpoo the Witcher is.
💯💯💯💯. Indeed. Make it about THE MAIN CHARACTER!
I have to think for a minute, that the screenwriters made this movie 95% about Wanda, and then 5% about other characters.
This could have been a good film, really could have, but, no.
@@JimmyPizzaDelivery
This could have really been a good film.
Same.
Damn, this is the best one yet. Hollywood really needs to hire you to tidy up their scripts.
This actually struck an emotional chord with me and made it easier to sympathize with Wanda
Imagine a world were companies hired writers, directors, and artists based on their work and reputations the stepped out of the way and left creative work to creative people. What a fantastic alternate reality that would be.
Only in a perfect world, still at least fanfiction is improving.
Sorry to tell you, you are living in that world. Reason is, talented sociopaths and liars can work hard for a few years to get influence and then we end up right back where we are. You aren't the first person to think of egalitarianism so please consider why it has failed.
this version of MoM would have had everyone asking: "what about wanda?? can a version of her come back?? I cant wait for the next marvel movie to tap into this!! Such a beautiful and sad ending!!"
instead of how I ACTUALLY felt at the end: "wtf did I just watch?? Marvel really has dropped the ball... i dont really care what happens anymore and dont even care about the fate of Wanda.. which everyone knows that they will somehow bring her back in the next movie with a one-scene exposition dump once she arrives. this was the lamest cash grab... i feel dead inside after sitting through that."
Boy I’m glad I didn’t waste money on it. I just waited until the Drinker did a review to decide the fate of my hard earned cash.
@@jonsolo32 I watched a near 6 hours of mauler and his review of MoM
This. The opposite of love isn't hate, but apathy. Thanks to bad writing, MCU fans just don't care anymore.
@@spritemon98 Just started rewatching Mauler's hecking chonker when Drinker uploaded this. Both the Long Man and the Drinker have blessed us with quality content.
@@RanMouri82 agreed
Regarding a character being predominately "good" across the multiverse: Philosophy. Logic. Thought. These three words overlapping on a Venn diagram would lead one to consider that across an infinite number of universes based on possibilities, there'd be a balance of outcomes across the entire spectrum (which isn't two dimensional - "good" and "bad" being human constructs).
Drinker Fixes are my favorite episodes.. positive assertive creativity in a world gone dark..