Upgrading to Intel from AMD while still on AM5??? Edit: Youâd need to buy an LGA1700 motherboard which is soon to be deprecated, whereas AM5 is in its first generation.
To put it simple Intel and Amd cpus have different shapes and the motherboard needs to match that shape, Intel will change it next year while Amd won't for the next 2 at least, so if you change now to Intel, with your next cpu upgrade, you will also have to change the motherboard
@@jacopomannarino6911My man if he wants to upgrade for gaming he simply can buy R7 7800x3d probably stronger than the I7 while cheaper considering the Mobo price
Did I need to upgrade from a 3700X + 2060 ? No. Did I anyway slap in a new Strix B550 wifi2, the 5800X and 2080 Ti ? Hell yeah. Not because I needed to. Because I wanted to Ajax would say đ
Very true. I have about 13.5tb of total storage. I have no idea why I got so much. I just bought a 4tb WD black m.2. I have no reason to have this much storage. I was gifted most of the storage tho. A 2tb hd was from a very old PC, a 5tb HDD was a given bc my dad was upgrading his server and it might of had a bad sector (not from my testing). A 2tb SATA SSD again from my dad's sever that "went bad" but from my testing it seems fine. I have a 2tb and a 500gb Samsung 870 evo NvME m.2 drives. But im 99% sure the 2tb is broken AF.
â@@purplehexagon16-32 is turning into a common upgrade nowadays as well, 8 used to be ok and 16 used to be good but now even 16 is starting to falter and 8 is just not enough at all lol, 32 is the sweet spot
@@Keullo-eFIN I flip PCs. Haven't bought a single rtx 40 series gpu (new or used) but I've bought several rx 7000 series gpus (3 retail, 2 used). The value of nvidia cards right now is hot trash.
I would just wait for a 5080 or a 5070 in the future or get a higher end card right now to wait for better am5 CPUs to come out. This would mean limiting you CPU a little bit in the short run, but spending less money for a better machine in the long run.
â@@styrofoam_"Fanum tax is an Internet slang term describing the theft of food between friends. Originally coined by American streamer Fanum, the term has become an internet meme, particularly employed and popularized by Generation Alpha." -Wikipedia i think
â@@AleksCoreBYyou can but it has to be at the right moment in time. Sockets only last for so long. So if you are at the beginning of a sockets development you are good. If you are at the end maybe check other options.
Im no tech guru but i feel like using am5 only for the upgrade path is useless because for the majority of people they wont upgrade for like 5 or more years and therell be a new socket that is prevalent by then so i see no point in doing this.
Considering AM4 came out in 2016 and still gets support and new CPUs I'd say investing in AM5 is worth it, even if there's a new socket in 5 years you can still buy AM5 CPUs that will be faster than current ones, and if AM6 or whatever is out they'll most likely be pretty well priced too.
@alexis_angel yh I get your point. Despite this I kinda feel like intel is a more well rounded chip. You can get more for the same price brand new from intel compared to amd. I get your point tho
@daboiii123 I do agree that Intel offers better performance per dollar than Ryzen 7000 right now. A decent DDR5 mobo + 7700X costs about the same as a decent DDR5 mobo + 14600KF in the US, and the 7700X combo is ~$30 more in Sweden where I live. If you're willing to go DDR4 you'll also save even more. The 14600K also offers ~10% performance in games which is nice. But even then there's 2 issues, AM4 is still going strong, and offers the same or better performance oer dollar than Intel, so if you really don't care about future upgradability you might as well go with that. And 2, in the long run going on LGA1700 will cost you more, sure 10% better performance now is great, but in 5 years having to spend an extra $120 for a new motherboard instead of using your current one won't feel so swell. When Intel 15 gen drops I'd say buying into it will be a good idea, assuming it's not a bad gen. Idk about productivity on AM4 vs LGA1700 vs AM5 so that might be different from gaming value.
@@noahm5705 My brother has an i7 6700k (Basically the same as a 7700k ) with an RX 6600... he bought the RX 6600 open box for 40% off. Maybe this guy has a similar situation ? I'm not sure, he may be trolling because it's obvious that a Ryzen 7 7700x is an amazing CPU for any situation
no joke I dreamed that the chernobyl reactor was near my bed, I got radiation burns in both my arms because I got too close and my gloves weren't big enough, they're were really painful, the radiation was so powerful is pierced my skin and made it black
Wrong. If you're playing at 1080p with a 7700x and 3060, upgrading the GPU allows you to play in 1440p with the 7700x and 7900 gre (example from the video) WITHOUT there being a bottleneck.
@@katootje6909 im guessing the 3060 probably came from his previous PC and he reused it when he went am5. still a pretty good GPU imo. far better than the potato GPU i currently have lol
I'm currently in the process of upgrading from a Ryzen 3 and a 1050ti to a new sysgem with a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4090. I'm really excited to finish it next month, the leap in performance will be huge.
Nah Zach has a hard-on for recommending GPU's that are way too low end for CPU's. He'd never. The obvious right thing to do is play leapfrog with your components, upgrade what's lagging behind most, sell off the previous hardware, and buy the best thing you can afford at the time you're considering an upgrade (optimally with a minimum of 3 years inbetween upgrades). You're actually onto something with your comment, but that advice is going to land on deaf ears.
Is it also worth mentioning that switching from AM5 to LGA1700 will need a new motherboard, and possibly new RAM? Even if an Intel CPU offers a worthwhile performance boost, it will almost certainly be cheaper to upgrade to a faster AMD chip, particularly if they can wait a while for the Ryzen 9000s.
It is also quite hard to get a bottleneck unless you already have a PC and are just upgrading your gpu while having a much older cpu. For a new system to get a bottleneck would mean you would to have something like a rtx 4080/4090 combines with a R5 5600. Which doesn't make much sense either.
â@@darkm9347There's always a bottleneck somewhere in the computer, and even if you somehow perfectly matched a CPU/GPU to a specific task for no bottlenecks (unless it's something super repetitive and predictable that isn't possible either since utilisation varied each second), that'd just mean you get a bottleneck in everything else.
at this point im impressed in how you can keep a straight face, by this point I would lash out and hold no punches back with smth like "you must be stupid to change your cpu" bevause I just cant with these type of questionsđ
He used the forbidden bottleneck word, lol. Itâs such a scare tactic term that most people wonât even notice a bottleneck unless what you are pairing is super old
It's good for the i3s and celerons but preferably if your running a budget i5 a nice budget tower cooler would be nice for it. But anything over like a 12600k a aftermarket cooler is necessary. I5 12400f, i5 13400f, i3 12100f and i3 13100f those cpus are going to work fine with the laminar rm1
There's plenty of Americans that can't afford high powered machines... I only barely just got a 3060 ti last year and it was a birthday present I pretty much begged my brother for that I otherwise would've not have been able to afford for a long time.
@@cjmunnee3356 damn, i was saving to buy one, but as i live on rio grande do sul, i lost my house due the floods :/ life goes on, the dream is dead for the next 1-3 years, i hope you can afford yours shortly :)
Apart from the am5 lga1700 lunacy. Every nvidia card you buy makes the next generation that little bit more expensive. With a lot of people doing it well you can read the prices yourself
For me it's whatever. I don't have this luxury of replacing cpu every year, usually I stick with a CPU for a very long time, so whatever if LGA 1700 will get 'obsolete' soon.
It will hold up for many years. Most things will be fine with even with 12100, and if you get 700 or even 900, then it is AT LEAST 6 years before you need an upgrade (and not because they arent powerful enough, but for something like DDR6 RAM and better stuff incompatible with older systems). That is, unless everyone would need AI bs (NPU) for some reason.
remember you should always go for a generational upgrade preferably 2-3 gens so you really feel that upgrade. Otherwise you're not gonna feel the value as much. Also current gen stuff is relevant for around 5-8 years. So unless youre actively having issues with frame rates its inadvisable to upgrade.
True, but the same can be said for the Ryzen 7 7700X, if he had the 7700 non-x version, then it'd be less power-hungry, but in the future there could be a CPU that's better while consuming less.
â@@Rullino32yeah but it isn't as dangerous as Intel's 14th gen or older generations of Intel K series. Even the i9 of older gen wouldn't consume as much as the 14th gen i9
@@pauloazuela8488 true.... I upgraded to a i9 14900K and I had to build a watercooler for it. I still get thermal throttling when in full load, you need a fucking freezer for it to stay under 90 degrees C.
I actually just checked this yesterday, and most genuinely worthwhile games released over the last 5 years have min cpu requirements of like an 8th gen i7k and min gpu being a 2060 or 2070, so imo there isnât much point in upgrading a i5 or better cpu bought anytime in the last 3 or 4 years for most people Better to just save your money and wait until you literally canât run what you want to play anymore, then upgrade, and esp if youâre going to a whole new mobo and platform
I have a i7-7700k and a gtx 660, and i was thinking to upgrade to a newer gpu (rtx 4070 super ti) but i checked the bottleneck calculation and it was 40% i didnt mind it until i checked your new vids and bottle neck seems like a serious issue that should not be avoided
@@lighninflashx_x Nah, more frames = worse for CPU. 60fps 4k is best case scenario for bottleneck like this. Basically, number of frames is dependant on cpu, quality of them is dependant on gpu.
7600x can handle wayyyy more than a 7600 gpu. 7600gpu can pair fine with a 5600x/5700x. If you go with a 8x GPU like the 7600 just pair it with modern parts like b550/b650 and 5600/7600. But to your question yes they will pair with the gpu being the weaker of the two. Keep your eyes open for a used 6700xt/6750xt/6800/6800xt/6900xt/6950xt to pair with the 7600x cpu. I have two Media Gaming PCs both with 7600x/6700xt. Also have 5600x,5700x and 5800x all three paired with a 6600xt.
@@nanuser420 I wasnât directly recommending it he was asking about combos and I was making a point that a RX7600 pairs well even with older AM4. Basically saying yes a AM5 7600x is way more than enough to keep the low midrange RX7600 fed. The note about modern parts was saying donât build ultra budget gen3 with a 8x card. At least do 5600/b550 for gen4. All depends on his budget and I am very much a value shopper that has no issue buying am5 over am4 if the price is right. I just replaced 4 of my 9 AM4 5000 PCs with AM5 7600x/7800x3D.
I think its pretty safe to assume he is on i7 7700k. In that case hes probably best off investing in a 12600k at $160 and either a 7900 GRE due to the value right now or waiting on the next generation to drop.
You cant say he needs to upgrade his GPU if you don't even know what games he plays, the quality presets he uses or wants to use and the res. If he plays 1080p competitive fps games at 200+ fps, 3060 with a ryzen 7700x is a good combo
The upgrade path has nothing to do with going from 7700x to 13700k. The real reason not to do it is because buying a 7800x is cheaper than buying a 13700k and an LGA1700 motherboard.
Hey man i love the videos! Im wondering if there is a bottleneck with an i9 14900kf and an rtx 4080 super, its my first high end build so im not planning to upgrade any time soon you can also recommend me better options
That's a hard one, you should upgrade everything. Look if you can find a cheap/free pc near you on a local marketplace. That's how I got my pc for free (i7-6850K, GTX 1080) If you really want to keep your pc, I can give you some suggestions tomorrow or so, just answer me so I don't forget :)
Do yourself a favour, and go with an AMD cpu. They are OBJECTIVELY better than intel while being at the same price points, AND while keeping the same sockets for much longer I recommend 7800 X3D
If you bought your pc within the last 4 years donât upgrade. Waste of money. 90% of pc gamers canât even tell the difference in performance anyways.
I upgraded my whole build because it was all out of wack. I kinda regret it but I had a bunch of money laying around so I sent it. I do regret buying the 4080 super only because the price, but I honestly think cards are never gonna be a reasonable price ever again. Even with Top of the line AMD cards you are only paying like 300 less and you get less too, it isnât just magically cheaper for no reason. I have 2 PCs one for gaming and the other for all my creative works (art and animation basically).
I have the Ryzen 7 7700X and an NVIDIA 4070, and 1440p gaming is amazing. I went from laptops that can barely handle 1080p to 2K quality with no lag or stuttering
I used a bottleneck calculator and had it at gpu intensive task it was at 7% (the specs were the i5 12400F and the Rtx 4060) pls make a video or respond to my comment if itâs good or not
Why tell them to go for the 4070 super when they are already planning to get the 4080 super? Wouldn't it be better to get the more powerful upgrade even if they might have to get an upgraded CPU down the road, which I'd guess isn't really necessary with the CPU they have.
Going from AM5 to LGA1700:
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Nope because the intel is better
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@@xsiwizz.futureproofing matters bro, lga 1700 is dead
â@@xsiwizz.Except it's not they're literally being returned because they're completely unstable
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Upgrading to Intel from AMD while still on AM5???
Edit: Youâd need to buy an LGA1700 motherboard which is soon to be deprecated, whereas AM5 is in its first generation.
You can not
To put it simple Intel and Amd cpus have different shapes and the motherboard needs to match that shape, Intel will change it next year while Amd won't for the next 2 at least, so if you change now to Intel, with your next cpu upgrade, you will also have to change the motherboard
@@jacopomannarino6911My man if he wants to upgrade for gaming he simply can buy R7 7800x3d probably stronger than the I7 while cheaper considering the Mobo price
The prolly reqlised why intel is better
â@@IcallMYSELFomen the quality of the spelling matches the quality of the statement đ
General rule for upgrading your PC: if you don't know why then you don't need it.
So true
Did I need to upgrade from a 3700X + 2060 ? No. Did I anyway slap in a new Strix B550 wifi2, the 5800X and 2080 Ti ? Hell yeah. Not because I needed to. Because I wanted to Ajax would say đ
Very true. I have about 13.5tb of total storage. I have no idea why I got so much. I just bought a 4tb WD black m.2. I have no reason to have this much storage. I was gifted most of the storage tho. A 2tb hd was from a very old PC, a 5tb HDD was a given bc my dad was upgrading his server and it might of had a bad sector (not from my testing). A 2tb SATA SSD again from my dad's sever that "went bad" but from my testing it seems fine. I have a 2tb and a 500gb Samsung 870 evo NvME m.2 drives. But im 99% sure the 2tb is broken AF.
I do think a upgrade from 8GB of ram to 16GB ram is pretty reasonable, seeing how having apps open in the background is basically impossible.
â@@purplehexagon16-32 is turning into a common upgrade nowadays as well, 8 used to be ok and 16 used to be good but now even 16 is starting to falter and 8 is just not enough at all lol, 32 is the sweet spot
Iâd be avoiding Intel CPUs with a 20-foot pole right now
Same, like with Ngreedia cards.
â@@Keullo-eFINraytracing?
â@@helenbutte4246most people don't care about that.
@@Keullo-eFIN I flip PCs. Haven't bought a single rtx 40 series gpu (new or used) but I've bought several rx 7000 series gpus (3 retail, 2 used). The value of nvidia cards right now is hot trash.
@@helenbutte4246 Yeah most people don't care about that
plot twist, it was an intel i7-7700x
Omg actually maybe
I would just wait for a 5080 or a 5070 in the future or get a higher end card right now to wait for better am5 CPUs to come out. This would mean limiting you CPU a little bit in the short run, but spending less money for a better machine in the long run.
Not everyone have a kid to sell their kidney man đ
@@FireCestina1200yet theres a market lol, the guy also asked if he should get a 4080 super too so he def got money
ââ@@j41_edf89nah, guy should wait for the rtx 9090 ..
Im waiting for the 8070 to upgrade my gt 710
I got crapped on for mentioning waiting for a 5000 series cards to someone who was planning on buying a 4080 super or 4090. đą
That must've been a troll question
i mean im new enough to not know
Or just someone that wants to waste their money
â@@jeremyloldrup7997i guess there is always some who don't know. I also thought it was a troll question.
I feel like it meant to say a i7-7700k not a â7 7700xâ. It would make a lot more sense.
what should i upgrade first? my cpu (ryzen 9 7950x3d) or my gpu (gt 480)
If u were considering a 14700k and 4080 super, just get a 4090 with ur 7700x for basically the same price
And better performance
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He wants to switch to Intel so he can be forced to underclock his CPU and have a more balanced setup đ
Iâm guessing this guy is purchasing a prebuilt or something
He already has a pc, he just wants to upgradr
Bro's views got fanum taxed
Bruh, what does that even mean?
â@@styrofoam_no idea man
Fanum tax by who????
Brainrot
â@@styrofoam_"Fanum tax is an Internet slang term describing the theft of food between friends. Originally coined by American streamer Fanum, the term has become an internet meme, particularly employed and popularized by Generation Alpha."
-Wikipedia i think
With that cpu he can go to 4k with a 4080 super or 7900 xtx... I know because I have this combo đ
Me too.
I have a 13700k and i dont see the point of worrying about upgrade paths. I wont be buying a new cpu for a long time anyways
yeah and a lot of people actually upgraded from 12400F to 13700K like me but sure AMD people think you can't upgrade Intel lol...
its always a sweet bonus, individuals who bought the first gen ryzen saved a whole lot by just keeping their motherboards.
â@@AleksCoreBYyou can but it has to be at the right moment in time. Sockets only last for so long. So if you are at the beginning of a sockets development you are good. If you are at the end maybe check other options.
Im no tech guru but i feel like using am5 only for the upgrade path is useless because for the majority of people they wont upgrade for like 5 or more years and therell be a new socket that is prevalent by then so i see no point in doing this.
Considering AM4 came out in 2016 and still gets support and new CPUs I'd say investing in AM5 is worth it, even if there's a new socket in 5 years you can still buy AM5 CPUs that will be faster than current ones, and if AM6 or whatever is out they'll most likely be pretty well priced too.
@alexis_angel yh I get your point. Despite this I kinda feel like intel is a more well rounded chip. You can get more for the same price brand new from intel compared to amd. I get your point tho
For example a 14600k or kf has more to offer than a 7700x which are almost at the same price, intel often being slightly cheaper
@daboiii123 I do agree that Intel offers better performance per dollar than Ryzen 7000 right now.
A decent DDR5 mobo + 7700X costs about the same as a decent DDR5 mobo + 14600KF in the US, and the 7700X combo is ~$30 more in Sweden where I live.
If you're willing to go DDR4 you'll also save even more.
The 14600K also offers ~10% performance in games which is nice.
But even then there's 2 issues, AM4 is still going strong, and offers the same or better performance oer dollar than Intel, so if you really don't care about future upgradability you might as well go with that.
And 2, in the long run going on LGA1700 will cost you more, sure 10% better performance now is great, but in 5 years having to spend an extra $120 for a new motherboard instead of using your current one won't feel so swell.
When Intel 15 gen drops I'd say buying into it will be a good idea, assuming it's not a bad gen.
Idk about productivity on AM4 vs LGA1700 vs AM5 so that might be different from gaming value.
@alexis_angel yeah that's probably what I'm gonna do. Just wait for 15th gen before I build my new pc
A 4080 super would actually work well with a 7700x in 1440p and 4k gpu intensive games
I'm starting to think that he has an i7 7700k 4 core 8 thread ...
With a 3060 that wouldnât make sense though
@@noahm5705 My brother has an i7 6700k (Basically the same as a 7700k ) with an RX 6600... he bought the RX 6600 open box for 40% off. Maybe this guy has a similar situation ? I'm not sure, he may be trolling because it's obvious that a Ryzen 7 7700x is an amazing CPU for any situation
@@Haywood-Jablomie true youâre probably right
@@noahm5705 I believe a Ryzen 7 7700x doesn't even bottleneck an RX 7900 XTX . He might be a troll.
What do you think about ryzen 5800x with 3090 tho?
People who have a nuclear reactor in thier basement
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Don't like beg. It makes you look dumb
no joke I dreamed that the chernobyl reactor was near my bed, I got radiation burns in both my arms because I got too close and my gloves weren't big enough, they're were really painful, the radiation was so powerful is pierced my skin and made it black
I feel like you just shared too much with the crazies of the interwebs. â@@salazar778
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With no bottleneck every upgrade is a new cpu and GPU being purchased together everyrime
Wrong. If you're playing at 1080p with a 7700x and 3060, upgrading the GPU allows you to play in 1440p with the 7700x and 7900 gre (example from the video) WITHOUT there being a bottleneck.
@@katootje6909 but if your doing that small of upgrades every year that becomes costly doesn't it
@@mikelascelle2921 I mean the 3060 is a couple years old now... Depends on how long they've had it for
@@katootje6909 im guessing the 3060 probably came from his previous PC and he reused it when he went am5.
still a pretty good GPU imo. far better than the potato GPU i currently have lol
I'm currently in the process of upgrading from a Ryzen 3 and a 1050ti to a new sysgem with a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4090. I'm really excited to finish it next month, the leap in performance will be huge.
Holy guacamole
Nice, I'm upgrading from a PMAG-C (1mb vram) to a 6090 today đ
Thatâs basically the upgrade I did. I had a 1060 6gb and a i5 8400, went to a 7950x3d and a 4090 with 64gb of 6400mhz ram
@@noahm5705 Very nice, how big was the difference?
Should i upgrade my 7800x3d to intel i7 7700k? đ€Ł
Tbh he's GPU is just fine id wait for the next gen of gpus
I have a 1080, so about a 3060 in terms of raw performance. Will be upgrading in 5 years or so đ
Nah Zach has a hard-on for recommending GPU's that are way too low end for CPU's. He'd never. The obvious right thing to do is play leapfrog with your components, upgrade what's lagging behind most, sell off the previous hardware, and buy the best thing you can afford at the time you're considering an upgrade (optimally with a minimum of 3 years inbetween upgrades). You're actually onto something with your comment, but that advice is going to land on deaf ears.
@@Hemeltijd ye like he's PC with a 3060 is fine id wait for next gen or get a 7900
Thoughts about a 12600KF and an RX 6600 XT? I need a ~600⏠gaming pc with a really good CPU for compiling so I don't plan on getting a slower CPU.
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If you can I would pick a slightly better gpu, but only if you need it.
Bro is about future proofing straight up but huge respect to the guy he is a father happy for himâ€
Is it also worth mentioning that switching from AM5 to LGA1700 will need a new motherboard, and possibly new RAM? Even if an Intel CPU offers a worthwhile performance boost, it will almost certainly be cheaper to upgrade to a faster AMD chip, particularly if they can wait a while for the Ryzen 9000s.
Ok why is that benchmark comparing the different CPUâs with different RAM speedsâŠ?
Because both intel and AMD CPU's have preferred ram speeds that they will work better and more stable with.
Bottlenecks practically don't matter to the average person, its just not ideal to have one
It is also quite hard to get a bottleneck unless you already have a PC and are just upgrading your gpu while having a much older cpu.
For a new system to get a bottleneck would mean you would to have something like a rtx 4080/4090 combines with a R5 5600. Which doesn't make much sense either.
â@@darkm9347There's always a bottleneck somewhere in the computer, and even if you somehow perfectly matched a CPU/GPU to a specific task for no bottlenecks (unless it's something super repetitive and predictable that isn't possible either since utilisation varied each second), that'd just mean you get a bottleneck in everything else.
â@@darkm9347Every pc has a bottleneck, it's just about how severe it is.
It is kind of silly thing to even worry about. It also depends on what you are using the pc for.
I don't think Zach really understands the word "bottleneck" is a forbidden word in PC land
at this point im impressed in how you can keep a straight face, by this point I would lash out and hold no punches back with smth like "you must be stupid to change your cpu" bevause I just cant with these type of questionsđ
He used the forbidden bottleneck word, lol. Itâs such a scare tactic term that most people wonât even notice a bottleneck unless what you are pairing is super old
Hey, Is the laminar RM1 for the LGA1700 any good or should I buy a new CPU cooler?
It's good for the i3s and celerons but preferably if your running a budget i5 a nice budget tower cooler would be nice for it. But anything over like a 12600k a aftermarket cooler is necessary. I5 12400f, i5 13400f, i3 12100f and i3 13100f those cpus are going to work fine with the laminar rm1
damn, americans got it so easy, while i wish i could afford a 3060
There's plenty of Americans that can't afford high powered machines... I only barely just got a 3060 ti last year and it was a birthday present I pretty much begged my brother for that I otherwise would've not have been able to afford for a long time.
American with a full-time job here: I wish I could too.
payment plan. how i got my 7900xtx. i could get a 4090 but i can't afford that..... yet
@@caliginousmoira8565 tf is a payment plan?
@@cjmunnee3356 damn, i was saving to buy one, but as i live on rio grande do sul, i lost my house due the floods :/ life goes on, the dream is dead for the next 1-3 years, i hope you can afford yours shortly :)
Apart from the am5 lga1700 lunacy. Every nvidia card you buy makes the next generation that little bit more expensive. With a lot of people doing it well you can read the prices yourself
Even a used 3080ti or 6950xt would be a mighty upgrade from the 3060
For me it's whatever. I don't have this luxury of replacing cpu every year, usually I stick with a CPU for a very long time, so whatever if LGA 1700 will get 'obsolete' soon.
It will hold up for many years. Most things will be fine with even with 12100, and if you get 700 or even 900, then it is AT LEAST 6 years before you need an upgrade (and not because they arent powerful enough, but for something like DDR6 RAM and better stuff incompatible with older systems). That is, unless everyone would need AI bs (NPU) for some reason.
Sure but if you already own a 7700x makes no sense to replace it with a slighly more powerful cpu
remember you should always go for a generational upgrade preferably 2-3 gens so you really feel that upgrade. Otherwise you're not gonna feel the value as much. Also current gen stuff is relevant for around 5-8 years. So unless youre actively having issues with frame rates its inadvisable to upgrade.
Ryzen 7 5800x and a 4070 super is already a 1440p ultra monster, can only imagine what a 7700x with a 4070 super is like
That intel processor also has a way higher power consumption so you'd have to invest in a good cooling method too
True, but the same can be said for the Ryzen 7 7700X, if he had the 7700 non-x version, then it'd be less power-hungry, but in the future there could be a CPU that's better while consuming less.
â@@Rullino32yeah but it isn't as dangerous as Intel's 14th gen or older generations of Intel K series. Even the i9 of older gen wouldn't consume as much as the 14th gen i9
@@pauloazuela8488 true.... I upgraded to a i9 14900K and I had to build a watercooler for it. I still get thermal throttling when in full load, you need a fucking freezer for it to stay under 90 degrees C.
Thank u for ur service man
Awesome PSA. WISE WORDS
funny part is the cpu would not be really an upgrade since they same caliber so he only needs a new gpu
That guy needs to upgrade his brain
a 7900gre will go hard
I am literally doing exactly this right, getting the GRE
Thatâs funny I asked Zack the exact same thing but I have a Rtx 2050 gaming laptop instead and I almost have enough money to but it too
I actually just checked this yesterday, and most genuinely worthwhile games released over the last 5 years have min cpu requirements of like an 8th gen i7k and min gpu being a 2060 or 2070, so imo there isnât much point in upgrading a i5 or better cpu bought anytime in the last 3 or 4 years for most people
Better to just save your money and wait until you literally canât run what you want to play anymore, then upgrade, and esp if youâre going to a whole new mobo and platform
i have gt 740 4 gb and i5 3570 đ
Each day that passes by I think he's an absolute AMD Fanboy
I bought a 5600x right when the series came out
Matched it with a 6600xt for 1440p
I have a i7-7700k and a gtx 660, and i was thinking to upgrade to a newer gpu (rtx 4070 super ti) but i checked the bottleneck calculation and it was 40% i didnt mind it until i checked your new vids and bottle neck seems like a serious issue that should not be avoided
just buy 4K monitor and you're fine
@@RinoAP huh? How does that remove the bottle neck my friend?
@@lighninflashx_x higher resolution means more pixel to render, so, the GPU is working much harder
@@RinoAP oh, ill see because i chose a monitor and its like 200+hz
@@lighninflashx_x Nah, more frames = worse for CPU. 60fps 4k is best case scenario for bottleneck like this. Basically, number of frames is dependant on cpu, quality of them is dependant on gpu.
Is a ryzen 5 7600X a good combination with the RX7600 when i save enough money to buy all the parts for my pc. (btw im from Europe)
yes
7600x can handle wayyyy more than a 7600 gpu. 7600gpu can pair fine with a 5600x/5700x. If you go with a 8x GPU like the 7600 just pair it with modern parts like b550/b650 and 5600/7600.
But to your question yes they will pair with the gpu being the weaker of the two. Keep your eyes open for a used 6700xt/6750xt/6800/6800xt/6900xt/6950xt to pair with the 7600x cpu.
I have two Media Gaming PCs both with 7600x/6700xt. Also have 5600x,5700x and 5800x all three paired with a 6600xt.
@@45eno wouldnt recommend him buying the 5600x because of am5 supporting ddr5 and future upgrades
@@nanuser420 I wasnât directly recommending it he was asking about combos and I was making a point that a RX7600 pairs well even with older AM4. Basically saying yes a AM5 7600x is way more than enough to keep the low midrange RX7600 fed. The note about modern parts was saying donât build ultra budget gen3 with a 8x card. At least do 5600/b550 for gen4. All depends on his budget and I am very much a value shopper that has no issue buying am5 over am4 if the price is right. I just replaced 4 of my 9 AM4 5000 PCs with AM5 7600x/7800x3D.
Just get a rtx 4090 if you have that kind of money
I would love to see a vid of the best place to buy hardware. (Please, this is something I need help with)
I think its pretty safe to assume he is on i7 7700k. In that case hes probably best off investing in a 12600k at $160 and either a 7900 GRE due to the value right now or waiting on the next generation to drop.
You cant say he needs to upgrade his GPU if you don't even know what games he plays, the quality presets he uses or wants to use and the res.
If he plays 1080p competitive fps games at 200+ fps, 3060 with a ryzen 7700x is a good combo
My 7700x is definitely bottle-necked by my 3060ti with a hefty over clock. I got a good deal because everyone was upset about ddr5 still
Depends what you do
Just buy a 3080 or a 3090 đ
3060 isn't bad at all
The upgrade path has nothing to do with going from 7700x to 13700k. The real reason not to do it is because buying a 7800x is cheaper than buying a 13700k and an LGA1700 motherboard.
Hey man i love the videos! Im wondering if there is a bottleneck with an i9 14900kf and an rtx 4080 super, its my first high end build so im not planning to upgrade any time soon you can also recommend me better options
no
there will not be bottleneck
Huge bottleneck. Wouldn't even be usable
Just be careful of the i9 as it currently has stability issues and when downloaded and undervolted it basically becomes an i7 lvl of perf
@@MrSnowboarder72 at 1440p there is 0 bottleneck chance
What white gpu should I get with a âŹ350 budget (preferably nvidia)
not to mention 13 and 14th gens are having burnup problems ... unless the new bios settings fix this...
No bios settings will keep an i9 14900K cool. You need water cooling and I'm not talking AIO.
Awww Maru the Cat.
Dont upgrade ur cpu, upgrade ur gpu
7700x and is a beast of a cpu, it has 5.4ghz frequency boost and multi threading beast, a 4090 is the perfect match
I hope that the user is not using single 16GB RAM stick!
If you work on ai development or game development definitely go for the 4080 super
i dont think he need un upgrade just keep what you have you will regret spending your money
Tips to squeeze as much performance as possible for a pc with a pentium e5500 and nvidia geforce 210?
what games do you play on such old machine? just asking
@@Hi-ix5bb roblox, half life 2, sometimes half life 1
That's a hard one, you should upgrade everything. Look if you can find a cheap/free pc near you on a local marketplace. That's how I got my pc for free (i7-6850K, GTX 1080)
If you really want to keep your pc, I can give you some suggestions tomorrow or so, just answer me so I don't forget :)
i sent two 14900k's back as they had problems and switched to 7800X3D and its working as advertised so now im sticking to AMD
Commenter: âShould I get a new gpu or just wait for the new seriesâ
Him: âJust upgrade your gpuâ
Literally about to upgrade to exactly this, right now I have a gtx 1650, going for i7 and rtx 4080 super
Do yourself a favour, and go with an AMD cpu.
They are OBJECTIVELY better than intel while being at the same price points, AND while keeping the same sockets for much longer
I recommend 7800 X3D
For once I do agree, but it is an upgrade going to Intel from ghetto AMD.
Pov: I just got a 7800x3d and took my 1080 out of my old pc with a 7700k in itâŠ
I'm using rtx 4070 with i5 13400 and this guy wants to upgrade ryzen 7 7700x to i7 14700k đđ
Finally a new image for bpttleneck
he is the ultimate sheep, the typical consumer without tail or head
If you bought your pc within the last 4 years donât upgrade. Waste of money. 90% of pc gamers canât even tell the difference in performance anyways.
I upgraded my whole build because it was all out of wack. I kinda regret it but I had a bunch of money laying around so I sent it. I do regret buying the 4080 super only because the price, but I honestly think cards are never gonna be a reasonable price ever again. Even with Top of the line AMD cards you are only paying like 300 less and you get less too, it isnât just magically cheaper for no reason. I have 2 PCs one for gaming and the other for all my creative works (art and animation basically).
I have the Ryzen 7 7700X and an NVIDIA 4070, and 1440p gaming is amazing. I went from laptops that can barely handle 1080p to 2K quality with no lag or stuttering
Damn you lucky bastard
@@_mariko791 Thanks lmao. I worked for like 2 months to buy all of the parts. Took me forever but it was totally worth it đ„
Just get a CPU that will last you like 5 GPU cycles. I'm on a 7900x and wont need to upgrade my CPU til it dies
My friend has a 3060 and 13900kf with ddr5
Damn that's a bad combo đ
Edit: Not bad, just a huge bottleneck for most games.
So 14700k is like 4% better than 7700x. How would the thought of changing it come to his mind
If he's willing to go for a 4080 + 14700k he might as well just buy a 4090 xd
good advice
Feels like I'm I'm need of an upgrade too, 2600x with 3060t, hopefully prices fall near eofy so I can snag 5700x3d or 5800x3d
4090 is so worth it idc what people say
Why am I watching these videos when I know my pc is 14 years old and can only run 30 fpsđ€
Iâm glad I got my 12th gen i7
I used a bottleneck calculator and had it at gpu intensive task it was at 7% (the specs were the i5 12400F and the Rtx 4060) pls make a video or respond to my comment if itâs good or not
It's ok
@@ItsNeverMe ty
4070 super will be not enough for 1440p very soon.
Can you put a link to a good PCpartpicker list with max cost 3k
Look like you just need to buy something. Just buy those height adjustable desk and new 57inch G9 monitor.
This kind questions come from ppl with 2 or max 3 years in pc gaming.. The first pc or the second.. It's kind of funny you keep answering
all content creators recommend AMD and use NVIDIA. Just saying
Why tell them to go for the 4070 super when they are already planning to get the 4080 super? Wouldn't it be better to get the more powerful upgrade even if they might have to get an upgraded CPU down the road, which I'd guess isn't really necessary with the CPU they have.
Day 4 of waiting for zack to do this type of video: can you say what are cores in CPU?
I have a 5700x3d and 3060 and my next upgrade will definitely be the gpu
He should just sell the 3060, the 7700x is already very powerful that wont bottleneck a 4090
What's wild here is he's trying to downgrade to a dead platform đ
@@hquan1 frfr
You guys should make a app
never trust this guy to build a workstation thats not meant for gaming, 14900k is worth its weight in gold to video editors