I personally find it really surprising that H5's campaign mostly went according to plan and there wasn't really any big cuts or changes during development. In my head I kind of imagined that there was a version of the campaign where instead of Blue Team and Osiris, it was just Chief and Locke. I imagined that in this version the first half would have been just Locke trying to solve the mystery of why Chief went AWOL and the second would have been Chief dealing with Cortana and the Guardians, but then some higher up decided to make the gameplay and story be squad focused which resulted in the campaign being reworked to shoehorn Blue Team and Osiris into the story. It was pure speculation and I had no proof that any of that happened but it really would've made sense to me if it did. But no, I guess this mess of 8 different protagonists in one story really was the plan all along.
I think the Didact would have been received better initially if they exposed more of his backstory in game to see his motive, like showing how he was infected with the logic plague by an encounter with the Gravemind, or more importantly show how he lost all of his children during the human-forerunner war and since then felt a better resentment towards humanity. Had they just shown the later at least or made the effort to keep him for halo 5 and explain it then through fragmented memories in the domain I think it would have been much better to show how the Didact was a ancient warrior who was at his core broken
As someone who was 100% up to date on Halo lore at the time, Didact was absolutely not fleshed out enough in game, even if you had read the Forerunner books the final book Silentium want out for several months after Halo 4, and the only game context for the character were the few H3 terminals that really don't mesh with the character in 4. Josh Holmes statement of "some players" is wack, and usually has come across as negative about the fans. Kind of like the TV show reception more recently.
Wow, this video was very informative and it gave me a new perspective on Halo 5 and what went into creating it. I like this format of video game essays and I think hit you nailed giving the full story; would love to see this kind of thing in other series too, like maybe you could do a series on the red dead games all the way back to its beginning with red dead revolver; and how the chose to portray that era of cowboys in a serious way that goes against stereotypes. Eh just an idea.
Wonderful video, can you discuss the effects of my mental development (and lack thereof) due to my dad leaving his family to become a professional halo 2 player, thanks Mr. Takes
"I thought it was at a pretty basic level" Not when you retcon the character into something completely different and make it so that he's randomly chilling on a planet after all these years, Josh. That's the part you don't mention. His motivations are clear enough for the game, at the most surface level. The problem is that he doesn't offer much else after that. For me, the problem goes as far back as how they introduced us to the setting right at the beginning. Making it so that Requiem was a targeted destination for Chief and Cortana and not something they randomly stumbled on by accident would have gone a long way in justifying his appearance this late into the story at least.
GREAT video man. I'm so glad the entire Halo management team got shafted because they were so obviously out of touch on what Halo should be, of what fans wanted from Halo, "I think disagreement is good because it creates discussion, you'll never make everyone happy". Yeah, that kind of mindset is what killed Halo.
I really wish you would have addressed the marketing campaign. Because all of that, coupled with early issues of the Escalation comic series very strongly hinted at one plot line while the game proper gave us another one. That in itself at the very least would suggest rewrites, as would the complete disconnect between the set-ups of one game compared with the other.
After this video was published, some new information about the marketing came out. Essentially, the marketing team working on Hunt The Truth and other advertisements were operating entirely on their own with the information they were provided with (Chief goes rogue, he’s hunted by Locke, etc) which is why there’s that disconnect, rather than any re-writes.
@@thescreentakesAgain, that does little to explain Escalation which was in perfect alignment with the marketing. And unlike HTT, 343 were directly presiding over that.
Yep, unfortunately they did. I’d have reuploaded it already, but they also hit the channel with a strike so I don’t want to risk it with that video again. Once the strike expires, I’ll reupload it with some minor changes But stay tuned! There’s still a brand new Re:Zero video coming out Friday (most likely)
I personally find it really surprising that H5's campaign mostly went according to plan and there wasn't really any big cuts or changes during development.
In my head I kind of imagined that there was a version of the campaign where instead of Blue Team and Osiris, it was just Chief and Locke. I imagined that in this version the first half would have been just Locke trying to solve the mystery of why Chief went AWOL and the second would have been Chief dealing with Cortana and the Guardians, but then some higher up decided to make the gameplay and story be squad focused which resulted in the campaign being reworked to shoehorn Blue Team and Osiris into the story. It was pure speculation and I had no proof that any of that happened but it really would've made sense to me if it did.
But no, I guess this mess of 8 different protagonists in one story really was the plan all along.
I think the Didact would have been received better initially if they exposed more of his backstory in game to see his motive, like showing how he was infected with the logic plague by an encounter with the Gravemind, or more importantly show how he lost all of his children during the human-forerunner war and since then felt a better resentment towards humanity. Had they just shown the later at least or made the effort to keep him for halo 5 and explain it then through fragmented memories in the domain I think it would have been much better to show how the Didact was a ancient warrior who was at his core broken
Awesome research! Would love a video on Infinite and its development.
There’s lots of interesting stuff with Infinite’s development. I definitely wanna work on that.
As someone who was 100% up to date on Halo lore at the time, Didact was absolutely not fleshed out enough in game, even if you had read the Forerunner books the final book Silentium want out for several months after Halo 4, and the only game context for the character were the few H3 terminals that really don't mesh with the character in 4. Josh Holmes statement of "some players" is wack, and usually has come across as negative about the fans. Kind of like the TV show reception more recently.
How is this video uner 1k views! It's so well made!
I cannit waut for a halo infinite video! Please make one!!
Ugh blue teams intro being in this game was such a bummer.
Wow, this video was very informative and it gave me a new perspective on Halo 5 and what went into creating it. I like this format of video game essays and I think hit you nailed giving the full story; would love to see this kind of thing in other series too, like maybe you could do a series on the red dead games all the way back to its beginning with red dead revolver; and how the chose to portray that era of cowboys in a serious way that goes against stereotypes. Eh just an idea.
My man is back! Great video, keep it up
Wonderful video, can you discuss the effects of my mental development (and lack thereof) due to my dad leaving his family to become a professional halo 2 player, thanks Mr. Takes
"I thought it was at a pretty basic level"
Not when you retcon the character into something completely different and make it so that he's randomly chilling on a planet after all these years, Josh. That's the part you don't mention. His motivations are clear enough for the game, at the most surface level. The problem is that he doesn't offer much else after that. For me, the problem goes as far back as how they introduced us to the setting right at the beginning. Making it so that Requiem was a targeted destination for Chief and Cortana and not something they randomly stumbled on by accident would have gone a long way in justifying his appearance this late into the story at least.
Sweet!
GREAT video man. I'm so glad the entire Halo management team got shafted because they were so obviously out of touch on what Halo should be, of what fans wanted from Halo, "I think disagreement is good because it creates discussion, you'll never make everyone happy". Yeah, that kind of mindset is what killed Halo.
I really wish you would have addressed the marketing campaign. Because all of that, coupled with early issues of the Escalation comic series very strongly hinted at one plot line while the game proper gave us another one. That in itself at the very least would suggest rewrites, as would the complete disconnect between the set-ups of one game compared with the other.
After this video was published, some new information about the marketing came out. Essentially, the marketing team working on Hunt The Truth and other advertisements were operating entirely on their own with the information they were provided with (Chief goes rogue, he’s hunted by Locke, etc) which is why there’s that disconnect, rather than any re-writes.
@@thescreentakesAgain, that does little to explain Escalation which was in perfect alignment with the marketing. And unlike HTT, 343 were directly presiding over that.
where can I find the gameplay for that 2013 Warzone prototype? good video, should consider doing for all the other titles + Destiny games
Nice job.
They take down your Re:Zero video 😢
Yep, unfortunately they did. I’d have reuploaded it already, but they also hit the channel with a strike so I don’t want to risk it with that video again. Once the strike expires, I’ll reupload it with some minor changes
But stay tuned! There’s still a brand new Re:Zero video coming out Friday (most likely)
Nice, looking forward to it@@thescreentakes
The video is finally back up!