Why Did The American Car Industry Fail?
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2019
- The USA is used to produce worlds best cars back in '50s and '60s. Now, if you look at the American car companies, not only they don’t have any significant portion of the foreign market, they can’t even dominate in their domestic market. So why do American car companies are failing so miserably?
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For those who didn't watch, let me sum it up for you: The US automakers asked "how can we make it cheaper, and make more money." The Japanese asked "how can we make it better."
I junk a lot of cars, as I own a few tow trucks, the majority of the vehicles I junk are not american (likely because there are more japanese cars here) and if it is american its almost never a truck. Cash for clunkers was the apocalypse of a lot of 80's-2000's american cars. one of my favorite cars to junk is the mitsubishi eclipse, because they were such trash when they were made its a rare sight to get one, or even see one driving. not sure I agree with the video entirely, I have a ford with one million four hundred thousand miles on it, (its on its way back from its second trip to the moon) and a gmc with three quarters of a million miles on it. I also bought a nissan brand new in 2014, after the second week of owning it, it had no more oil in it, because it was burning it right off the lot.
@@holycownonames u are right, Toyota went overboard with lean thinking early 2000s, a lot of cars had manufacturing defects for that reason (chinese style cheapskating in materials... every little detail)... after that they learned it was bad business. I dont know what is status of american cars after 2000, but 80s those were in my understanding still better quality than most manufacturers, as price competition means quality is lowered, but it was just beginning then.
@@recoveringnewyorker2243 this really isn't the place to self advertise.
@@holycownonames a Greek has buyed a Mercedes d200 with 200000km (125000miles)on the clock and he drove in 26years 4.4 million km so now there a 4.6 million km (2.875000 miles) on th clock all on first engine
@@effexon i daily a 1988 Ford bronco II it probably has nearly 200,000 miles on it original motor and transmission had to be rebuilt because it blew two gears and doesn't burn oil most the work ive done is replacing worn out parts now most cars i see when working in a shop burn oil and these car are not clunkers there cars still under warranty and there burning oil and the manufacturer doesn't see a issue with that. A 50,000'$ car should not burn oil when it an't 10 years old or got a million miles on it cars and trucks and everything in between is made to be trashed after the warranty is expired
European Car CEO: “How can we make quality cars?”
Japanese Car CEO: “How can we improve our cars’ reliability?”
American Car CEO: “How can we lower our cost and boost our profit?”
Me: "Ooh, ooh, I know: by making good-quality, reliable cars!"
American Car CEO: "Your an idiot" [sic]
@@j.s.7335 Sad but True.
Also EU Car CEO: “How can we cheat the emission tests?”
@@iainkillion262 American lobbyist: how can we keep foreigners from dominating our market? fake emission requirements!
I'm an American and this is so true. All the big corporations are so corrupt that they don't care about putting out good products, they just want to take your money.
Did you know that of every ford car built since 1981, 90% of them are still on the road.
The other 10% made it home.
OMG! You totally got me on the first one 😂😂😂
LoL
Same for British Land Rover Discovery and Defe
I guess there's a reason Ford stands for Found On Road Dead.
bahahaha take that ford owners. bullshit trucks
If a model fails, instead of improving it, GM/Chrysler/Ford will cancel it.
They dont listen to criticism. Ford is using the garbage MT-82 Trans for their 5.0 Mustang even though people have been demanding a full replacement for 10 years now. But the Transmission is cheap, so they just continue using it against the protests. But their sportier and more expensive Mustangs get a better transmission.
But they won't cancel it right away. Poor sales? Reliability issues? Let's keep on selling them for a few more years! No improvement! ONLY SELL!
But why do they do that? Best Cadillacs they ever made --CTS and CT6, and they cancel them
@@blogshagify It's because of poor sales. Ford, FCA, and GM have great difficulty selling their sedans (compared to Hyundai/Kia, Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, Honda, and Nissan). So they've decided to kill off their sedans in favor of the things that sell really well: crossovers, SUVs, and trucks.
General Motors, the only company capable of cutting the corners on a circle.
That's Chrysler
@@andrepoiy1199 as far as I know they are good at that too. Thats exactly why they needed to partner up with Fiat and are now part of Stellantis, because they suck on thier own.
Yeah 😂
GM can make a new kind of geometry.
@@mhikosale7233 exactly. Nothing is impossible if you can "reduce cost and boost profits."
I once heard this comparison.
regulations become more strict (safety, emissions, fuel economy)
Japanese manufacturers will spend billions to meet or exceed it
American manufacturers will spend billions lobbying to kill the regulations.
More likely, american car companies will follow simplistic models in hopes that they can meet the requirements even though those models do not really work. American cars will try to get lighter or move toward technologies people do not want instead of looking at the actual causes of energy consumption. VM was originally created to keep aircraft engineers active. We could use that technology to improve our automotive designs.
*Toyota owner* More like they spend billions trying to avoid it with loop holes, ex: cars getting bigger or being turned into SUVs to not have to meet those standards for their class
Lemme tell you sumfin bout regulations, honey...... The larger corporations are the ones lobbying FOR regulations, precisely because regulations cost money to abide by.... And even if the large corporations have to lose money following regulations, they can rest assured that the smaller guys are buried and drowning in the costs of running business due to those same regulations. Never forget that the 4 largest communications corporations in the US merged into 2 even larger corporations, IMMEDIATELY AFTER "net neutrality" became effective during Obama's administration. So even if you lose a little money due to a regulation, you may gain much much more, if your competition is shut down.
@@c4call Thing is, fines for failure to follow regulations tend to take into account revenue. Also, of all the examples you could've chosen, Net Neutrality is by far the worst. A gigabyte is a gigabyte. It doesn't matter if it's a video or text, it doesn't matter if it's from CZcams or Pastebin, a gig is a gig, and if the sources are able to keep up it they must arrive at the same speeds, independent of what the ISP thinks it should be.
Chad Call what you are saying doesn’t apply to cars
On my trip to the US a few years ago I was gobsmacked at people complaining about fuel whilst driving these huge trucks.
& You never noticed the Hellcat SRT, 392 SCAT, DEMON, ZL1 CAMARO ANY CORVETTE after 2015, Mustang GT's. All you seen was Trucks? Literally Every human had a Truck?
@@BlackEgypt I know it sounds crazy but most of all cars I saw were mostly trucks and suv's.
@@v1br4t1ons Yes it is today as well
people are spoiled and told endless lies that President Biden made their fuel price go up
@carl hartford well it's probably Chilean lithium and Congolese cobalt. Assembled in the good old US of A
"The next recession will probably make the 2008 recession look like a picnic" ... Yeah, about that.
We just getting started
@@kaydgaming Yup. At the very least the correction of the current inflated housing prices will hurt a lot of people.
@@kaydgaming The next month is about to get spicy with all the people facing the street corner.
Which means I should probably start getting supplies ready, Regardless of whether they become homeless or move in with family, It's going to upset things
@@joshuakhaos4451 and the markets haven't crashed yet eithrr.
@@8Oblivion_Lost8 Yep. Gotta get food and ammo. Ammo definietely because people have lost it and crime is getting pretty bad in many cities. I never go downtown anymore just because of how bad its gotten in the last year. Even in the day things are bad, even on the main drag where all the Tourists are all day.
Every CEO of Honda have been engineers.
Well then, it makes perfect sence to put in charge a guy who knows how cars are built, doesn't it?
I suppose.
Then why do Honda transmissions grenade as frequently as Dodge?
Why does my new Honda have a class action lawsuit against it for a design defect?
Why does the paint on any Honda made in the last 10 years look as bad as the worst GM and Chrysler products from the late 1980s?
@@Bartonovich52 because they build in them in house instead of outsourcing them like Toyota does with Aisin.
Honda has never excelled at making automatic transmissions since they went away from reliability in early 90's and went for smooth shifting instead.
The 80-95ish cars had autos that you could feel the shifts in, but regularly went half a million miles. Since then, Honda auto's have been hit or miss.
Their manual transmissions on the other hand, fucking forget about it. I'd bet a Honda with a manual transmission is more reliable than a Toyota.
@@Bartonovich52 i was confused cause my accords transmission is as strong as ever, then again I bought a standard transmission.
@T A good joke. Russian cars are really easy and cheap to repair that's really good, but its quality and outdated standards are moving it behind top manufacturers.
Not necessarily. To manage is a science in itself. I wonder even if having a background in what to manage might not even be a disadvantage.
There's always that one person in the comments that's like "I own a 2018 Chevy cruze with 15,000 miles and never had a problem" 😆
@Mr.A Bandit I don't have a problem, I drive a Toyota 😂
94 was a solid year for those, shame they quit making durable cars and trucks 😞
@@801_adventure_trek4 seems like everybody stopped making durable cars. That's the same in Europe and Japan .
Chevrolet Cruze is KOREAN, not American
@@801_adventure_trek4 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I've been all over the globe, no matter where you go you will see a Toyota and a Mercedes.
Mercedes are unreliable, only reason ppl buy them is to show off
@@KrolKaz the last true Mercedes died in the 80s
Toyota dominate easy worldwide
So true. They make good cars it’s as simple as that. I would put Honda there too.
American capitalism is addicted to short term profit above all else. Now to the quarterly report.
It is eating itself alive.
Imagine what the American car industry could be if people never quit giving a shit about their about their products and image? Imagine if Ford, Chevy and Chrysler had Toyotas mindset.
It is addicted to Corporatism as they got bailed out by the government and relies on chicken tax to justify itself.
Ok well if they didn't get bailed out then literally tens of thousands blue collar workers wouldn't been out of a job, it would've decimated Detroit.
@@KrolKaz It shouldn't be up to the god damn normal citizens that don't buy the company's goods to keep them upfloat. Detroit is already a shithole for a different recently. If your busy requires government subsidizies, it's already a burden to society. If can't offer a good or better service than your alternatives, than it should fail. Competition brings innovation for this very reason. The blue collar workers should've known better as they're the ones WORKING on said vehicles. Could've jumped ship to their competition, but stuck with a piece of crap company that is a liability.
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I'm Japanese, and I can confirm. American cars in Japan are a meme.
Hope I didn't screw up with the pronunciation of "Kaizen" :)
ALFredo C you really fucking think America builds better cars than Europe? Wtf have you been smoking
Brage Andersen I’m sorry but your Renaults and FIATs are garbage to say the least. FIAT attempted to sell in the US a second time and consistently land up very last place in any reliability and dependability survey. Even worst than their fellow Dodge and Chryslers do. The only brand that occasionally matches their bottom of the barrel garbage reliability rank occasionally is Land Rover. They are now pulling out of the US market a second time as a result. Renault doesn’t sell in the US anymore (and for good reason) but since they merged with Nissans their reliability has been on a constant slide. And I know this because we had 9 Nissans in our family. All of the pre-Renault models were solid. Our two post-Renault models were constantly in the shop with transmission problems. Nissan must be well aware of it because they are trying to ditch them. Now Peugeot wants to do the same as FIAT and come back into the US market and we’ll see how long they last here. And VW? Most VW buyers in the US don’t go back for a second VW. The first one they buy lands up being their last. The only reason VW remains viable in the US is because of Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, Bugatti, and Porsche. The only European brands that can handle the US market are the luxury heavyweights.
Juan Zingarello fuck italian and French cars. Im talking german cars. And America isnt even available in my country. They are too crap.
ALF Raydough Tf you talking about yes french, British and some of the Italian cars are shit but other european cars are wayyyyy better than American.
GM killed the SAAB car brand as well, due to the same reason: cut costs, where SAAB had always been loved for its innovations and unusual styling.
and GM weren't happy that it costs money to do cars properly.
Vauxhall / opel now doing well after the GM pull out.
True, But SAAB didn't share as much components as they should. This was a big management thing to. Development was killing SAAB. For me the True SAAB was the last 900 Turbo from the 80/90's.
@@dennisdegroot7490 yes development was killing saab, they rejected all parts from gm and did it their own way on a tighy budget resulting in shit cars. They should have embraced it more and just focused on some aspects while badge engineering other
@@antonioakiki3716 Any Saab post 2000 (95 & 93) are GM crap, having owned 12 Saabs over the years Many metal parts were replaced with "generic" inferior GM plastic parts. Example hot water T valve, They used to be metal - replaced by plastic & what happens to plastic when it constantly gets hot & cold, goes brittle and breaks. In a saab box $100 same valve in a Vauxhall box $80, generic GM part number k124b3 $20. Thats just one example of many many small changes GM pushed them into and as a result over time it all adds up to inferior engineering.
Saabs customer base were those that knew engineering, detail and precession work.
Quality and standards nose dived after 2000 Saab got told by GM this is what you got to play with make it fit and work, & you have x amount of $$$ to do it.
I grew up with my family driving SAABs and I'm STILL angry at GM for what they did to them!
the most dependable Ford is the Fiesta which happens to be made in Germany. Under rated savagery there!
My first car was a Fiesta Mk II. Absolutely indestructable. Cheap to run, easy to repair, spare parts were also cheap as dirt. Great car, except for the anemic 45 HP engine.
Fieatas with the automated manual transmission are anything but reliable.
I used to drive European 2015 Focus 1.6 with 5-speed manual for 2 years and it was one of the best cars I've ever driven. It had oved 100k kilometers mileage, but I only had to change small part in suspension. Now I'm driving 2016 Fusion 2.5 (American version of Mondeo) and I think it's a really nice car. It has classic, hydrokinetic automatic gearbox so there should be no problem with it. It's very comfortable and the AC in Fusion (compared to Focus) is very efficient, so it's not a big deal to drive when it's hot outside.
The fiesta and focus and mondeo are basically European, they were built for Europe specifically
Hellcat SRT, 392 SCAT, DEMON, ZL1 CAMARO ANY CORVETTE after 2015, Mustang GT's. Any American Muscle will DUST Euro cars.
There's an old saying in Poland: "Don't buy a car that starts with an F (Fiat,Ford,French)"
It seems to me Renault (French car) has a bad name from the past but the current Renaults seem solid.
@ Well, in Germany we often times say, that Renaults are the most unreliable cars going around. In some parts we even say: "A Renault will break down before you crash as a safety feature." And well... F1 kinda proved that for the past years.
TRUE
@@Ticki That's a strange saying given that German cars, BMW and Mercedes, have been bottom of the european reliability tests for years and years and Renaults and Peugeots have been close to the top with Toyotas. From what year does this not only xenophobic but technically ignorant saying come from exactly?
Pretty much anything made in Europe is junk.
Things break on those cars that don’t even exist on American cars.
In my country, when GM owned Opel, there was a saying: “Opel, a car for life”, because they were impossible to get rid of after you bought them.
Rust helped a lot....
@@19e2 😁
Is this the reason why I still see 20 year old Corsas running around? 😂
@@thatcopenguy They were Opels before they were Chevrolet 😂😂😂
My dad used to own an Opel and the only good thing I can say about it is the engine never stop running, which is quite suprising because everything else just deteriorated and broken down years before the engine.
This is what happens when you care more about shareholder value than product quality.
Thanks yes Amen
Shalom.
And that is Exactly it! Summed up beautifully
This is what happens when you run a company mainly by finance folks vs. folks who have a tech background (like Herbert Diess / Elon Musk).
Alex K. Yeah you are completely right but that it's not only for the auto industry in USA though. That is a fenomen that is happening in other areas also, entertainment industries being one of them, like Cinema, TV, Comics, Video games, music and etc etc. The quality have been decreased way too much to maximize profits unfortunately.
I'm sorry for the poor English, cheers.
Bmw: our motors run 350k without problems
Toyota: thats nothing ours run 500k without problems
Gm: thats nothing ... we cut the costs by 3%
This is why GM is nothing more than a gigantic joke. 🤣
Teslas 510k
YEA RIGHT ask a M5 owner why the dealer recommends a rebuild on the v10 after 60,000 miles
@Bmille1965 bc idiots do a kickdown coldstart and dont take care about their cars
My father drove one for 280kkm without any problems at all and we just gave it away because he died still first clutch first motor etc.
if you do oil changes every 10kkm and take care of it it will last forever
@@patrickvanderkoelen my friend was meticulous with his but the crank was worn out at 80,000 miles BMW told him it was dues for a bottom end at 60 im a old BMW fan but the newer stuff just isnt holding up . 30 hours or more labor on all the v8 intake gaskets etc
Richard Demming taught the Japanese that stressing quality, constant improvement, and long term profit vs immediate profits. He tried to teach US companies also, but he was shunned because of view that poor management was the key problem most companies faced. He tried to explain to corporate USA that QUALITY products generated more profit, but the managers kept insisting that lower costs, better worker drones, and higher prices were the answer, and that Mr. Demming was a moron. Japan (and most other countries over time), got the message, and
proceeded to kick the poop out of the USA manufacturers. They edged USA companies out of the automotive and many other markets. Better quality at a lower or equal price won the day!
American cars are a meme even in America
@Saint Fifty One Ferrari has improved greatly in the last 15 years actually. Lamborghini has improved the most out of the big 4 . (Lamborghini Ferrari Porsche McLaren) VW has done a good job with Lamborghinis reputation and specifically the Huracan is literally bulletproof. Porsche has also improved as well but the only one to not be so good is McLaren but i expect that since they've only been back for 7 8 years.
@Saint Fifty One The suspension technology (magnetic resonance) was actually developed by researchers at Carnegie Mellon University, not GM
@Saint Fifty One yes GM bought the rights to the patents, and also because at the time GM was in a marriage with Fiat, who owned Ferrari fully at the time. The divorce was messy. And very expensive.
@Saint Fifty One Delphi owned by GM, now owned by the Chinese BWI Group
@Saint Fifty One journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/14611348419876392
It's simple: Rather than make cars people want to buy, American car makers make crappy cars no one wants, then try to get people to buy them.
Thanks yes Amen
They don't even make crappy cars anymore. Just crappy trucks & SUVs :/
Have to disagree, Matt. Huge pickups and suv's are exactly what the American market wants. And if it has a Diesel engine, we'll, shit, that's just icing on the carbon cake.
That’s basically communism😀
Its hilarious because the same 80 something year olds who whine about outsourcing buy toyotas and hondas. I dont blame them, it makes sense, but its a truth hurts situations.
I hope the american companies come back with electrics, its a do over chance to do it right.
I like Dodges and Fords still, though.
I love Toyota, and don’t worry, Scotty Kilmer has warned us already about the trash vehicles made in the great US of A
Yup. Toyotas are the best. I work on American cars that are 5 years old and are rotted out. Yet a 20 year old Toyota is rust free.
@@KenBober just take a look at a Dodge power wagon from the 1940s and the engine with work, yes there will be surface rust but nothing terrible.
And we have had to scrap a Toyota supra mk4 because of rust damage so it really depends on if the car was probably stored.
No Volkswagen is better than Toyota !
ToYoDa kWaLiTy! AaAaAaAaAarRh!
- scottie kilmers
@@ahnungslos7029 funny, German cars are only good for 100k before you have to dump thousands into it to keep in on the road.
Back in 2016, I bought a Camaro after Chevy updated it in an appealing way. I had not owned a domestic car since 1983 and expected quality to be much improved over the years. Overall, that seemed to be the case until the clutch wore out at just over 27,000 miles of light use (I’m 60 now and don’t drive aggressively). Because a clutch is considered to be a “wear and tear” item, Chevy refused to allow any mitigation and charged me $5,000 (!) for a new one. Needless to say, I learned a hard lesson and will go back to trustworthy foreign manufacturers from now on. No more Chevys (or Fords or Chryslers) for me…
Buy a crown vic
Destroyed clutch at 27000 miles is unacceptable. That's absolutely Chevy's fault for poor quality parts.
$5000 is ₹375000. Double it, and you can buy a good car in India.
Yep standard American trash experience
Ford had alot less issues than GM chevy and dodge chrysler junk
“Build better cars.” I love that guy! 🤙
Lightning Farron Angela Merkel ist ein Frau 😆
@@kinglandon5831 Sorry, Frau is female so the sentence is: Angela Merkel ist *eine* Frau 😆
Listen closely, guys. He stated in the vid : "VICE-chancellor of Germany replied...". The vice-chancellor at that time (dec. 2013 till mar. 2018) was Mr. Sigmar Gabriel, got it?
@@kinglandon5831 Vizekanzler nicht Kanzler mein Lieber
@@kinglandon5831 That thing is no women, its a catastrophe.
Many years ago an American named, I believe Deming, had a plan to efficiently build quality cars. The big three couldn’t be bothered but a small Japanese company named Toyota did. The rest, as they say, is history and I believe Deming is still held in high esteem in Japan.
Funny thing is, American cars were considered to be treated and talked about the same way we treated and talked about japanese cars today.
They used to be stupid reliable and have great engineering. Now its just plastic, which basically suck.
Remember studying that as part of my degree 35 years ago, seems they still haven’t learned the lessons but Europe did.
Hellcat SRT, 392 SCAT, DEMON, ZL1 CAMARO ANY CORVETTE after 2015, Mustang GT's. Any American Muscle will DUST Euro car or Japanese Car
@@BlackEgypt until they have to go around a corner that is 😂.
Tbf though I drive a Model S and it goes round corners fine, currently on Scottish roads (this week at least). Would love to try some American muscle in the states sometime. Don’t make much sense in Europe though, and boy not much power out of big engines, relatively speaking. GTR will smoke most things on the road as well.
@@davidshipp623 czcams.com/video/zR_8H9ZsE9Y/video.html 😎My City
If you point out a error in a US company then you get fired, especially if that mistake was caused by a supervisor!
Hellcat SRT, 392 SCAT, DEMON, ZL1 CAMARO ANY CORVETTE after 2015, Mustang GT's. Any American Muscle will DUST Euro cars.
@@BlackEgypt www.yahoo.com/autos/ford-lincoln-recall-roundup-explorer-154700526.html
@@BlackEgypt Who the fuck cares about going fast in a straight lane?
@@Einungbrekke all cars do have steering wheels I thought. I guess I must be wrong. Damn 🤦🏾♂️
@@BlackEgypt Yeah, because American cars are known through out the world as cars that corner well.
I have always heard my american friends describe their american cars as cheap to repair but seldom as reliable. American cars are also designed with a price and time period in mind.
That is one nice thing about my pickup--it is cheap to repair. I can't complain about reliability though--I've thoroughly abused it, and it's always gotten back home under its own power.
2019: "Will make 2008 look like a picnic..." 2020: "Hold my beer..."
I was waiting for that comment somewhere.
@@JB-yb4wn 2021 yet to come.
Love it now let go of my beer!!! Hahaha
@@melluzi But bad year is just 2020 isn't it!
@@goldenglobe961 Quite sure 2021 will be worse. And globally there won't be major improvements for at least 2 - 3 more years.
First the Detroit Big 3, then IBM, then GE and now Boeing.
Harvard MBAs strike again...
Its because they only look short term, remove any talented people from the company to focus only what they call core competency, and then all you have left is just a shell of a company that have nothing to offer. Its like 101 plan hot to run a company to the ground in 20-30 years....
@@ExcessumGaming Preach it brother!
But they have been successful. Harvard MBAs have been wildly successful at lining their own pockets despite running their companies into the ground.
Trade barriers must be used to protect labor, industry and patents
@Enigma of S2000 Yup, because they've been grounded
I´m living in Germany, driving a 98 Ford E150 Van and I know why. A few years ago I traveled to the USA because of business. I used the chance to rent a brand new RAM 1500 pick up truck. I never expected it to be such a good car. I already owned several commercial trucks and pick ups in Germany back then. I learned that a commercial vehicle can be a comfortable, silent, air conditioned, decent car with automatic transmission. The standard of this truck, even in the lower categories, was way, way higher than any commercial truck or pick up I could have bought here in Germany. So I sold the dreadful Sprinter without A/C but with manual gear box when I came back home and got me this E150.
Nice to know
There's a reason practically every private hire taxi in the UK is a Toyota. They're crazy reliable.
Cough cough toyota 3 cylinder failure after 30,000 miles
@@DickPeter-bl1cfgermna car falling apart cough cough.
I was an intern in a company that adopt the Kaizen principle. One of the technician painted his toolbox with vivid color so people can see it and avoid tripping, the country manager personally awarded him the continuous improvement award. Now that is a company culture,
Or some dopy Manager would write him up for not using a uniform colour.
Or some other loser would claim that the bright colors are a distraction and can cause accidents.
@Biden Sucks Less than 10% of US jobs are in a union.. If US workers actually had unions with power, things would change. Mcdonalds workers are in a union here, make 23 dollars per hour. Not in a union in the US, makes 7 dollars per hour..
Go figure..
@@MrDanisve and how much do you pay in taxes, in comparison?
@@rarelibra I actully lived in Mitchigan and now the UK .....I worked out the difference if I was doing my job in both countries and there was not much difference at all. Tax wise the UK was costing me about an extra 5% (net) from my salary.
If you included the average salery for both jobs ... price of health insurance in the US my take home was MORE in the UK.
Dont just look at the headline % rates they only tell half the story.
I’m as proud an American as any of us, but I owned two American cars and after many thousands of dollars in repairs and two near death experiences I was done. I own a Toyota, wife owns a Honda and we couldn’t be happier with them.
But the Japanese say you have to use their engine oils, etc. As if they are in the business if making engine oils. They just love to profit from every point.
@@kimi651 look at apple and their charging cables same model and why shouldn't they do. They are a company nobody said they are the Best they are just better then americans 😂😂 like every other car maker
@@kimi651 simple, they ask you to use this one because its the one they tested, trust, and have reliable data on. Use anything else if you want, but dont complain after. Seems reasonable.
Get a Ford, Jeep, or an old GM truck
what cars if they are old that's stupid
In Portugal there is a saying:
FORD = Fabrico Ordinário Reparações Diárias (Cheaply built, daily repairs)
Na Alemanha, tem provérbios semelhantes. Algo que se fala é: “Ford kaufen, Ford fahren, fortwerfen (se compra um Ford, se conduz o Ford, e se deita/joga fora)”.
In Canada we have a saying: FORD : Found On Road Dead
Here in the US, Ford stands for Fix Or Repair Daily
In Brazil there ins't a saying, but Fords here are just trash like in every corner of the planet. Just the ones built between 60s and 90s were good, besides that everything is poorly builted
F******* Obviously R*tarded Design is another good one.
I am an American, and the last time I owned an American-made car was in 1982, and now after owning German, Japanese and American cars, I find that owning a Japanese-made car Is the best way to go.
They have the perfect balance of price and quality.
That's why Japanese car brands dominate worldwide
It's reliability... If Americans were to try to make them reliable then things would change
David Mora we used to be known for reliability
The reliability issue is directly related to cost cutting. Even then, American companies can still produce reliable cost-cut vehicles on occasion. They're usually crude leaf sprung vehicles with a cast iron pushrod engines and an industrial grade interior.... it's hard to mess that up.
@@Strawberry-12. We never were known for reliability.
Where did you get that lie from?
David I’m talking way back like 40s
@@Strawberry-12. Those cars rarely ever survived to 100,000 miles.
I grew up in a union household. Always taught to "buy American". As an adult in my own home, I grew tired of costly repairs, being stranded, and bumming rides to work, thanks to whatever American car I owned at the time. Switched to Honda ten years ago and have been Brand loyal ever since.
Focus on the product not the brand. Just because todays hondas are good doesn't mean they won't degrade in quality in the future and when they do switch
One of my students once told me "I'd be more than happy to buy an American car, but I am not going to spend $10,000 of my hard earned money on junk". That was in 1980. I didn't listen, bought a new American car and 17 months later sold it. Since then, just Asian cars.
I've never bought any American car, always drove Honda/Toyota/Nissan products...I finally boight an American car, 2 infact for me and my wife and I'm never looking back...I was a hardcore Japanese car fan but Tesla is on a completely different level, ICE is in the past.
@Saint Fifty One That was then and this is now. I still won't buy an American vehicle from the big three. I refuse to be a guinea pig or tester of their cars and certainly not with my money. They had some good ones and many bad ones. Asian cars produced in the US don't have those issues. Design and quality control helps.
@@VNCTHE1 You bought into the Tesla Kool-Aid. I take it you really think they are "clean" cars. Ever wonder how electricity or batteries are produced.
That's a good point that people in Japan stay in their companies for a long time and the longer they work there, the better is their overall position. They may be more focused on long term survival of the company than on the yearly profit. Then there is GM which refused to fix the ignition switches at least in new cars, because it would affect short term profit.
Because Americans who had a 9th grade education thought they were worth $100/hr working on an assembly line and the Unions who stoked the fire.
American management is short sighted and is rewarded on "maximizing stockholders equity" in short term 90 day cycles, and is how they themselves are rewarded with their stock options and other compensation. The bean counters dominate the engineers. So unless there is a massive change in this regard, the quality of American vehicles with continue to decline.
yes it's all about the bonus
What about high labor and regulatory costs?
I see you Apple..keep milking customer and will end up like US car maker ...
@@tulsaguy9963 has nothing to do with it. Foreign companies operate in the same environment and do it better. The problem is this [I think this was from Jack Ma] - to succeed a company needs to take care of it's customers first, employees second and shareholders last. In General US companies operate in exactly the opposite order. Quit trying to blame the employees or the government. put the blame where it belongs - on greedy and stupid managment.
@@inwalters I've read somewhere back that one of the reasons that the Japanese really started making inroads into the US market was management. Toyota had three levels, while GM had seven. I'm sure at one of those GM's management levels were occupied by son-in-laws, nephews and a close friend's son that really weren't needed, but probably could play a mean round of golf.
GM:
kills the 3.8 V6
Kills Saturn
Kills Pontiac
Kills oldsmobile
Kills iconic cars like the trans am,Buick grand national etc
"WhY DoNt wE havE HiGher MarKet ShaRes?!?!"
3.8l is the most reliable engine GM has ever made kind of a shame they killed off Pontiac and Oldsmobile both of those brands were able to sell MILLIONS of cars and oldsmobile is one of the oldest car brands, pontiac was pretty old too
Managed to get SAAB, completely fucked it up immediately and killed it
Never understood why they kept Buick but not Pontiac. Buick was the least cool brand. They made the boring old people’s cars just like Oldsmobile.
@@gregrowe1168 Buick sells like crazy in China.
@@misterbuklau4053 3.8 and 4.3 were best v6 motors GM ever made....the LS motors are good but the rest of the truck leaves something to be desired..
In Flint Michigan they had one of the largest automotive manufacturing plants in the world called Buick City for almost a century and it was gutted and completely demolished in the 90s. Thousands of people lost their jobs, good jobs. The city itself is still reeling from GM abandoning it and the whole water crisis is still ongoing because the economy has not recovered.
I prefer japanese cars but crown vic... Damn i love these cars. They look beautiful and they last long. Ive seen one with over 500k miles with some repairs and runs flawlessly
I'd still buy one in a heartbeat.
Add up fuel cost over time you are just throwing money away, my camry rides better lasts longer and cost less to drive. Again japanese.look out 10 yrs Americans look out 1 yr.
@@RT22-pb2pp idk about last longer I've seen Crown Vics take bullets and still run, we all seen them run through a wall and still run. Gas mileage on the other yeah you definitely will need to take out a mortgage.
@@tcs07d not talking bullets but mileage, crown Victoria ice good but camry is better look at reports from long term tests. Crown is best american car in last 30 yrs but camry lady's linger and costs less to do it. But hats off to crown Victoria best american car for reliability by a mile.
crown vics are also the iconic poster car of cop cars, they have an imposing impression
Nothing new here - I have been hearing permutations of the same basic themes for over 35 years. The structural fabric of the American industry is flawed and there is little hope of correcting it without widespread deep rooted understanding of the issues, not just in management but throughout the culture of the company. The first day I went to work for GM in 1987 I drove up in my Nissan. Car got vandalised in the car park that day, and the next day my boss told me to change cars. Switched to a chevette which was without doubt the worst car I ever owned and dramatically poorer than the Nissan in every respect. But it is easier to crap on foreign cars, impose tariffs, fight regulations and ignore obvious quality differences than actually putting in the work to change. Pride and stupidity is a dangerous combination.
Yeah that doesnt surprise me at all. A lot of idiots back then bought into the Buy American propaganda. At the same time those companies were outsourcing everything. Ceos like Roger Smith probably laughed their asses off about that swindle til they died
You got your car vandalized just because it wasn't an American plastic coffin? That's... Wow.
This video is the most INACCURATE video on CZcams. Everybody in America Drives HELLCAT SRT, 392 SCAT, DEMON, ZL1 Camaro, ANY Corvette After 2015, Mustang GT's. Average American Muscle will DUST ANY EURO CAR
@@BlackEgypt 'Murica
@@TotallyNotASpy1 lol 😂None of the Europeans wanted to Argue anymore once I said SRTHellcat 1000HP 😂😂😂
In German, the similar thing to Kaizen is called "kontinuierlicher Verbesserungsprozess". And the plot twist of this story is, that this principle was created by an American: William Edwards Deming. US Automakers successfully ignored his research :D
And yet Germans cars are unreliable like BMW producing some of the worst cars even like m5, 8 series, etc.
@@roboticvenom1935 Many Americans seem to misunderstand german cars. Your BMW our Audi will never be as reliable and cheap as a Toyota or as tough as an American Pickup, but that isn't the focus. BMW and Mercedes are luxury cars, aiming at providing you the maximum amount of fun and comfort. Compared to Toyota or Honda they dont think about what you have to give the consumer a better product for the same amount of money, because if you buy a BMW or Mercedes you have to expect that all these futuristic features will cost a lot in maintenance. Yet I see so many Americans crying about how much they cost and how often they have to repair their cars.
If you are bothered by the repair costs, you shouldnt own a luxury car in the first place. Its luxury, its for people who aren't bothered by money and just want to spend their money.
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 You're acting like these so called German luxury cars are failing due to lack of maintenance and Americans just can't handle it. BMW, MB, Audi, they're all built to feel and look amazing and last until the warranty is up. Things that fail on these cars aren't maintenance items. Oil seals that fail deep in the engine, VANOS, ABC and leaks galore says otherwise.
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 And yet Lexus utterly destroys Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in reliability.
Furthermore, Audi is a bit better then BMW.
So it's not all luxury manufacturers are bad and this is something that we can't achieve, it's that "German engineering" has just failed in this regard. Sad truth honestly
@@heinrichmirgrautsvordir6613 One can buy other luxury cars such as Lexus (in particular), Jaguar even Volvo and have much less problems than with ABM. Hell, I would even say Cadillac is more reliable (but not quite on par in terms of tech) than ABM. And this is common sense here in Europe too, just check out older ABM highend models on mobile.de or similar, the prices ask speak for itself. Nobody want's an older German luxury car, as it will break your wallet in repairs.
Ralph Wanger wrote in Squirrel Chatter about an early experience speaking with an executive for a US Auto manufacturer (unspecified company). Wanger commented on how clocks in their cars (this was around 1966) would stop working after only a couple of months. He said that it gave the impression of shoddy quality. The executive replied that the cost for a “good” clock was double that for the clocks they were currently using. Using the “good” clocks would cut into the profit margin.
The cost of the “good” clock to the carmaker would have been LESS THAN 10 DOLLARS.
I had a 1973 Pontiac Lemans that, by the time I got rid of it in 1983, had practically disintegrated. First came body rot behind the rear wheels, necessitating boards in the trunk to prevent things from falling out. Then BOTH windshields started to leak. My rear deck behind the back seats was warped. Finally, holes started to develop ON TOP of the rear quarter panels. Oh, and if I was really careful, I might be able to squeeze out 10 MPG.
GM deserves bankruptcy and oblivion.
Wow, that's just embarassing!
I question that Ford was bailed out by the US government during GFC, I remember hearing that to its credit, Ford managed
the crises on its own. Chrysler also to its credit, managed to re finance it's government loan and was able to repay it well ahead of time,
nice going. I stand to be corrected.
“Make better cars” best roast in history.
Well, germans are pretty proud of the cars they made
But 100% True
@John Doe well, look into other European cars. The often overlooked ones. Skoda, Volvo - and Renault. Renault not as much for quality but for price/quality ratio
@Pizza77 Jones japan makes several phones people buy. Evee heard of Sony? And Germany just doesnt is interested in the Phone Market. There is no Tech Company in Germany, big enough to engeneer their own Smartphone. Germany has enough other Markets and Branches where they are Marker Leader.
@Pizza77 Jones you are confusing an excuse with facts.
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I got a GM ad instead. And you attracted a spammer in the deal.
@@ishidan01 i got a Genesis ad! Korea is entering the quality market! (sad that cheap import cars like the Mercedes GLA, Toyota Corolla and Kia Forte are built better than even the more expensive american cars)
I got a Honda one
Almost 18 years living in the US and have had a few Lincoln Town Cars that aren't made anymore. These were built on the Panther platform and are very reliable vehicles but, unfortunately, these Panther cars (Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis and the Ford Crown Victoria) were replaced by the now also defunct MKS and Taurus which aren't as nearly as reliable. I still drive an old Town Car but if I had to buy a new car I'd pick something made by Honda or Toyota without blinking an eye.
That reliable panther platform was like a TIMEX watch. The Very Last Crown Vic was actually delivered to a customer in Suadi Arabia! You couldn't "give" me an American car now :)
What about Hyundai,Kia and Mazda? They make reliable cars too not just Toyota and Honda
@@joskjj3625 Mazda is ok but Hyundai and Kia aren't quite there yet.
Honda Is Trash Unreliable
@@joskjj3625 Tesla Reliable Too
"It's not about US versus Japan. It's because the US doesn't have Kaizen."
Its more like Central europe vs eastern asia lol
No one cares about american cars
I mean when trump was screaming at Germany and Japan my brain went:
"You are shouting at 2 countries that are known for their engineering if course they will say build better cars"
Japan: Let us make better cars.
USA: Let me make more money.
no one cares
@@jplsgaming4582 You clearly do.
Japan: We make a profit now
USA: wait, were's my money?
GERMANY= let's make unreliable cars and make more money. Genius!
France: let's try something different.
Germany: the new golf/911 must look like the one we had 10 years ago but it must be more expensive.
America: other countries have as large flat roads as we have right?
Japan: let's make well engineered cars which are terribly bad looking.
Italy: Let's make cars with incredible design which are absolutely uncomfortable for everyday driving.
My mom's Honda Accord was 20 years old before it finally gave up.
Her Toyoda minivan has over 200k miles, and STILL going.
Even ISIS buys Toyota, that tells something
those are both japanese cars so?
Up to last year, I still had a 2003 Toyota Echo I was using as a 2nd car. I had that car for 13 years, it NEVER broke down.
20 years isnt that much. A Car from 2001 should be perfectly fine. My dad own a 2000 BMW 5 series and i get that in 1 or 2 years, and its absolutely fine, No Rust, No failure, No nothing
my 1997 explorer has 217k miles
The disregard for compact, efficient, low gas users and low cost vehicles, for decades, left the U.S. car industry uncompetitive un the world market and at Home.
And it's bound to happen again. Now that ford and gm are out of the compact sedan market altogether, just wait till the next financial crisis renders these "fuel efficient" trucks and SUVs expensive to run.
They do in the UK where Ford is huge but totally different cars
I was going to comment on the popularity of the Ford Fiesta in Europe, but I didn't realize it was manufactured in Germany. It's known around here as a very reliable, efficient, and stylish car. And it was the best selling hatchback for a while.
Ford in Europe is very different to USA ford. They feel European in design and style. Quality. I love my fiesta.
you know it's bad when Chrysler gets bought out by the Italians
Oh yeah. That was a marriage made in hell. How do Fiat even keep going?
We had a 2001 Chrysler Sebring convertible. It looked great and drove like a dream but the costs for repairs..... not so great. We still miss it though...
@@Whitevaliant01 I hear that sentiment very often, but it's actually not been as bad of a deal as it appears.
Especially now with the FCA (Fiat-Chrysler)-PSA (Peugeot) merger, the new company could actually become a really dominant force in the automobile industry, especially in producing electric vehicles for your average Joe. Additionally they'd have a power base in Europe, as well as the US. And with german manufacturers really (I mean really) faultering in recent times, especially Daimler and BMW, FCA-PSA brands could fill that vacuum.
Its gonna be interesting for sure.
Fix It Again Tony.
Not the 1st time they have made deals with the italians. Guess no one remembers the TC?
And its funny really. Everyone talks about chrysler merging with this company or being bought by that company. You have to stop and think though, why would Mitsubishi partner with chrysler? Why did Maserati? Why was diamler interested? Why did fiat want to buy them?
Clearly, these car companies want something chrysler has, and as opposed to letting them dying they bought or merged with them. If chrysler was as bad as everyone makes them out to be, these high end companies would want nothing to do with them.
Dont forget, fiat also owns Maserati, ferrari, lancia and alfa romeo. Daimler, obviously Mercedes as well as maybach and medium and heavy duty trucks. Now why would they want to be invested in a "terrible american company" when they already have such exclusive portfolio as it is?
by killing off their sedans, GM is going to drive themselves into a corner
Same as Ford
GM killed themselves back in the 80s by making cheaper crappy cars especially front wheel drive ..I have talked to more people that drive Japanese cars cause they had a crappy Chevy Citation or front wheel drive oldsmobile and they had a lot of problems so they started to buy Toyotas and Honda....So There !!!!!
@Cool Canuck they killed themselves back in the 80s with those crappy front wheel drive cars....Chevy Cavaliers ,Dodge Minivans ....they had transmission and other problems Ford Taurus were crap....that's why people drive Japanese cars....its true
They killed themselves when they tried to prioritize profitability over quality of their products. I'm an American and like 90% of people I know would never buy an American car.
@European God Mann I swear the Grand Prix might be the most reliable car to date.
Much of the problem is protectionism; most foreign countries will NOT PERMIT American cars (among other US products) to be sold in their countries.
American cars DID suffer quality issues in the 1970s and early 1980s, but that was completely turned around in the 1990s and 2000s. Many US cars, (excepting Chrysler), are on par with with most of the foriegn makes and even surpass some of them in build quality and reliability.
As an european i can say that GM left europe because BMW/Mercedes/Audi were better than Cadillac, Chevy only sold shitboxes based off an obscure corean brand and Opel/Vauxhall never made a profit until PSA bought them.
Finally the only car gm still sold where i live is the Corvette C8 and the base model costs as much as a second hand 911 Turbo, a fully modified low mileage 360 Modena, or a McLaren MP4-12C
I forgot to add that GM nearly killed Saab
"Always aiming for the short-term profit" sums things up in one sentence for the American auto industry, until the day it'll be just GONE.
That reminds me of that one scene in South Park.
"Aaaaaaaand it's gone." 😂
"Build better cars" that makes me proud. :)
My all time favorite 🇩🇪 BMW M5 competition 🇩🇪
@@CuriousReason Mine too!
@@CuriousReason why not Mercedes-Benz E63s AMG?
@@kreizmann2943 BMW is sport luxury Mercedes Benz is luxury sport. I'm assuming hes make and men are more for function and performance over interior design. Interior design is much more a female oriented selling point. It's why Ferraris are much more coveted by women and Lamborghini by men. Ferraris are pretty but Lambos are fast. Wome. Have heavily influenced the car market.
But that costs money and those executive bonuses have to come from somewhere.
A good friend of mine used to work at GM. He always said that there can't be a worst company to work for & that the management sucked.
They want to compete with Tesla lol 😆
I honestly hope Tesla lighted a fire under their asses to get them going. But in reality They will probably continue to pump out shitty products. You can’t change the culture with the same management. Their president has been there since the 80s. Good grief!!
As someone who works for a parts supplier for GM, even being upstream from them sucks as far as work goes.
@@superfly19751
Its a damn car company
As another former employee, I agree with your friend. It sucked to work there and it was hard to leave because their technology and management practices are awful and no one else really wants them.
I imagine any monopoly stops caring about being the best pretty quick.
Intel ;)
the major reason, and it's stated here when he talks about GM'S running of opal, is make the product as cheap as you can, and pay out when that cheap part breaks. they do this instead of generally taking some profits and invest in better manufacturing. that's why European and Japanese manufacturers do so well.
Europe and Japan: Good cars
America: T R U C K S
dude, imagine a 400 pound American trying to get inside Fiat 500
@@grodt88 The Fiat 500 and the Mini Cooper have a surprising amount of seat movement. It makes it easy for big and tall drivers to get in. Try a Toyota Yaris or a Chevrolet Spark. Yikes.
The best truck built in America is a Toyota.
@@grodt88 yea and a 400 pound french man would fit?
@@markpalkowski9673
The average French are not overweight. That's because of the baguette and frog legs
Americas do tend to be patriots for home made stuff even if it is not as good as imports and this tends to lead the US corprations exploiting them
If that was true, places like Walmart and Target would go out of business. Their merchandise are mostly from foreign countries. And American car companies are quickly losing ground because they don't believe the customers are always right anymore. Instead, they listen to what the government wants. I bought a new Mazda because American car manufacturers don't listen to me.
Yeah, but even americans have a breaking point with american car brands. Only reason to buy one is because they feel uniquely home grown, but thats it.
I wish GM would make a comeback.
100% true
Yeah I bought a 03 Taurus that started falling apart at 40k miles. Never again buying another American crapbox
I see way more toyotas and hondas here than i see american cars
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After having 2 Fords have transmission issues in a few short years, I never went back. My Hyundai I’ve had for 4 years is still running like the day I bought it. Toyota is really good too.
Hyundai had major engine problems as of late.
@@WJCTechyman just like Nissan as of late, but I'm driving a slightly older model. No issues in 4 years. Still, I live in a huge city. I've yet to see a Hyundai, Toyota, or Honda broken down on the side of the freeway. I see Dodge, and Fords constantly though. At work, my coworker constantly has to work on his Chevy truck. There's a problem every other week with it. It's just not a good look when you're spending so much on it.
In the US you have a top down structure: 5 board members that make all of the decisions. In Japan you have a bottom up structure: every employee is involved in the decisionmaking process and is encouraged and even rewarded for finding faults and making recommendations. The bottom up structure is light years better but many companies choose the top down because of more money and power for the top Executives in the short term.
not entirely true. They also have top down, but they have a counterbalance with a bottom up. Decisions go from top to bottom and consultations and opinions from the bottom up. They also simply have a different philosophy in regards to how to make decisions from the top down, not just by thinking "this will make money", but "this is what people want".
Michael Moore interviewed the president of General Motors and asked why they didn't make cars that people wanted. He was told that they told the people what they were supposed to want.
Teslas are American cars and they don't suck. We bought a Model 3 more than 2 years ago and are about to take delivery of a Model Y. Also pre-ordered a Cybertruck.
The Mod 3 is the best car I've ever driven so far. Not just owned but driven.
@@punothebear yeah, that strategy made a lot more sense before the internet got invented; back when some Dan Draper character could make a slick ad when we only had like 10 channels.
I think it’s more about the leadership changing a lot. Not the way the company’s decisions are made.
The Americans wouldn’t listen to Dr Deming, and the Japanese did.
Thanks yes Amen
I was just thinking of what my college Statistics professor told us about “total quality management “ and how Dr. Demings tried to pitch it to Detroit and was shot down. Low and behold Japan was struggling to recover from the war and employed Dr. Demings to help their manufacturing companies. 30 years later Japanese manufacturing was growing a reputation of far better quality. 30 years after that we Americans still won’t get it. No more bailouts they deserve to go bankrupt.
Do they have a UAW In Japan?
@@JJG86 no but they do have strong unions in japan as well
@Andrew Cummins
RE: "The Americans wouldn’t listen to Dr Deming, and the Japanese did."
Unfortunately, most Americans don't know who William Edwards Deming was - and wouldn't care even if they did.
My previous 3 cars before I got a Subaru in 2016 were all used GM vehicles. My word!! What a difference!! I'll never own a GM vehicle ever again!
Ford also consistantly failed to make a profit with Volvo, while Geely turn Volvo profitable 2 years after they bought it from Ford.
Just a little background info:
my brother's father-in-law worked at Opel since the late 1950's until the late 1990's as a production line supervisor / Bandeinrichter in Rüsselsheim, Germany, the German HQ of Opel.
For all of his time at work with Opel, GM actively forbade both Opel and Vauxhall from exporting their cars to the USA, so as to not endanger their American market shares. Opel for example was actively limited to selling ONLY in the European market directly by the GM management. This continued until GM sold Opel.
He told us when he left work at around 67 that Opel had this revolutionary idea of putting together an essentially electric car with an on-board generator to power the electric engine when the batteries were low. This was in essence a hybrid car, but with a somewhat different approach than Toyota took with the Prius.
He also told us, that it took roughly seven years until this concept car had been finalized and was proposed to the GM management roughly in 2003 or 2004. It was called the Ampera. While it did not have the fuel efficiency of a full combustion engine, it did drive fully electric at any speeds its electric motors were designed for.
The answer by GM: "Who wants electric cars when gasoline is so cheap? Build something different and shelve that design. No, you can't build the production lines for that car as that will be too great of a cost for a car nobody wants."
Along came the stock market crash and the financial crisis of 2008, and the incentive of the German government to get older, fuel inefficient cars off the road.
Preferably by buying hybrid cars, incentivized by a 3000 € subsidy, for the whole year of 2009. Millions of older cars were sold and taken off the market, and millions newer hybrid cars were sold in one year. Mostly Toyotas (BTW: I got my Prius back then, because I had no real alternative for a standard hatchback at the time. If Opel had had the Ampera on the market, I'd have definitely got one then!).
Cue Opel's request to build those cars from the GM management in 2009.
GM's answer "Why didn't you build those cars before? We could have made an insane profit with them in the European market?!? You are so bad at business!"
Opel's answer: "We tried to tell you roughly four years ago. It will now take roughly two to three years to get this car approved and the lines set up, and to get enough production going to supply the market."
GM's answer: "Here, have some pocket change, and two shoe strings, and build a new factory!"
Cue an American entrepreneur, and Musk's huge fortune in the background powering a startup. Added to that Musk's charming personality and his ability to sell absolutely BS products with so many flaws that have to be addressed by regular software updates. Without selling CO2 shares Tesla would be bankrupt without external input of capital within a year due to its inability to build a single car even at cost, much less at profit.
Yet everybody touts his electric battery concept as new and revolutionary.
Along comes 2018, and Opel is chucked off by GM to the Renault group. Finally the updated Ampera with the standard 2018 features is allowed on the market and makes a killing.
Lesson learned: short term profits don't work in car companies.
Especially when those profits don't go into investments for the future of the company, but instead into the pockets of the shareholders.
"Who wants electric cars when gasoline is so cheap?" Even NOW I would say the same. Oil is cheap, LiIon is NOT. Idiots jump on elec.cars, missing one unavoidable law: FIRST - you have to invent new way to produce/save electricity - this way must be a whole level up! And only SECOND - put this invention under bonnet of EV! So all this "let's drive eletricity" just a HYPE. Waste of consumers money for price of inconvenience.
Related Opel itself, it was ALWAYS CRAP. At all times. Toyota, Honda, Ford, BMW, Merc... you could drive 'em forever. Opel - just box on wheels, where you burn money. No any sorry to their death.
@@daitedve1984 You pay 1.35 € for a liter diesel or 1.55 for a liter gasoline here. It's not cheap
@@daitedve1984 Opel isn’t dead, it’s been doing pretty good actually since it was sold to PSA, so maybe it’s about time you realize that it was GMs management what made Opel crap, since GM is the one that’s currently dying
Renault group --> PSA (Peugot & Citroen)
@@daitedve1984: Hi , I am a Mercedes guy who worked 35 years for the company. I can’t agree with you opinion. In the fifties and sixties Mercedes and BMW where rare luxury cars, Opel and Ford Germany where the for the middle class and Volkswagen and other long gone car makers were for the masses. So when you drove an Opel or Ford in those years you were not a big shot but you had made your way! But then GM made mistake after mistake until the brand suffered. This was widely discussed for years in Germany and every car guy knew this. So do not blame Opel for that.
2020 has entered the chat.
These days the only thing American Auto Manufactures are good at building is Debt.
shut up
They are great at taking federal handouts.
tesla
@@quangthanhta608 Look at the numbers a bit closer. Their profit is not coming directly from selling cars and services. The quality of Teslas is still sometimes well... yeah.
Every automaker had some money problems in the beginning of 2020.
Simply because it focused mainly on cup holders rather than the vehicle itself.
"Our models are not selling well boss!"
"I've told you to add more cup holders!"
Interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing your ideas 🌞!
The most skilled engineers in the US all work for companies with military contracts...follow the money.
Thats Sad if true
Aerospace and Big tech. Americans have moved on, been there done that. We also happen to make superior weapons.😀
Well, get more engineers...and/or get German and Japanese engineers to train new engineers. Hyundai did it.
@@draculemihawk6897 America doesn’t need to be trained on anything! We don’t care what you do what your about
@@nakternal Make better cars! I don't use weapons.🦸
In India, people who want to buy quality car and not just A CAR, never talk abt American cars. Don’t even know they have American cars!
It's all about European but mostly German cars when it comes to luxury cars in India basically audi, mercedes , Porsche or BMW and some people also buy land rovers, jaguars and rarely Bentley's and while when it comes to economy cars it's mostly Japanese brands toyata Suzuki honda and some native brands.
RYAN HUNT RAJPUT yep exactly
The the mass market buys only japanese(suzuki) and korean(hyundai/kia) no ther manufacturer dominates the Indian car market as much as these two.
No one cares. Either Go drive your g-wiz or stop calling and scam me
@@trumanadam7880 well, who cares about you mr. Important?
I’ve got a 2005 Buick (GM) that admittedly I still love to this day. I’ve also got a 2003 Honda CRV that has been equally great to me, albeit with fewer miles on the trip. I would say their maintenance needs have been about the same over the years. Neither stand out as more problematic than the other and I’ve been happy with both.
That said I greatly appreciate this video emphasizing the differences in management styles being a notable cause for deficiency. Always an opinion I’ve had but (at the risk of confirmation bias) it’s nice to see what looks like solid evidence to support that. Thanks for your time and work!
Is the Buick a LeSabre?
Well researched and argued, but do not try to persuade Americans. Their heads are so far up their asses about most things, they are immune to real-world stats about how badly built and unreliable American cars really are. My first love was American cars, and they broke my heart.
Liked after a year lol.
Yeah, with their weird thinking, it's very hard to argue and convince them.
Myself, an American, would absolutely love to own a German or Japanese car eventually. I currently own a Ford product and that is mainly due to cost. I think part of the reason that people go with American brands is because of cost on the used market (and being partial to certain brands). Especially with current prices in the US, some several year old Japanese and German vehicles are selling for more than their original MSRP. Historically, American cars do not hold their value like the foreign cars do, and I believe that has a lot to do with quality. Every American vehicle I’ve been in simply has not had the same feeling as a german or Japanese car. They rattle, have strange and scary recalls, very silly mechanical reliability issues, etc.
I've had ford, Chevy's and they were very unreliable from my experience. I traded in my ford expedition for a Toyota 4runner which I have to say is really reliable.
The Ford will need some service every 20k miles and cost up to $500 right? That is not counting major warranty repairs huh...
😂😂😂😂😂 my ford eco spoy(2 lakh km) I did.
I'm going the same route.
Unfortunately the further we support the foreign market the more capital leaks out of the country in support of outside industry. However since they are expected to behave like an extension of the nation and not a parasite, the money spent may be less likely to be funneled into executives and shareholders embrace.
@@pigtailsboy How many times do we have to keep getting kicked in the balls by the big three before we say no more? Their products are shit and they don't care about their customers. I've been dealing with their bullshit for over a decade and it just keeps getting worse and worse.
My parents bought north American brands. My dad told me very young that this was a big mistake he made and told me that he hopes I never buy the garbage they sell here because they break down and are cheaply made. I followed his advice. I buy Korean cars and I have never had an issue.
I won't fault you for buying Korean now, they do make very well built vehicles (driving dynamics are another story but that's personal preference). If you go back to when Hyundai first turned up in North America the cars were utter shite, but slowly got better.
Well American cars are on general less reliable then some of their foreign counterparts it really depends on the model, if you want to know whether you're getting a good reliable car or not look at its consumer Reports reliability rating. For example the 2012 Kia Sorento has a below average reliability rating whereas the 2012 Chevy Volt has an above average reliability rating.
@@shadowwolfmandan Are you smoking crack. Korean cars are still crap, not to mention horrendously expensive to fix.
Fricken parts for Mercedes are just as or less expensive.
@ Matthew Matthewq
Lol.. this is 2021 not 1986.
ROTFLMFAO!!!
Why Korean? Just go Japanese.
I've owned 1 American car ever, and I hated it. Ive had 4 Japanese cars and they are without a doubt the best.
We should look at the fact that some of amazing Japanese cars were actually design by American research firm or japenese affiliate in America. But when comes to American home made cars it's disappointing. For me it's more to management. The real issue is incompetent American automobile executive
Not incompetent, *greedy*
@@eyyy2271 Right, they know exactly what they're doing.
Your writing and animating is on a whole other Level! Seriously!
I'm surprised you don't have ten thousands of subscribers already!
I had a series of VW's and Hondas, but then someone had me 'Buy American'. I did. What a mistake.
VW was what convinced me American wasn’t that bad in the first place.
And my Honda has a class action lawsuit on the engine.
You can buy american... but a V8 (Probably a v6 depends)or a Duramax or Cummins trucks... 4 CYL forget. The VW 1.4 N/A of my dad burns oil like MAD
@@Bartonovich52 only if it's a VW from the Mexican plant. VWs in Europe are indestructible.
@@inertboi VW indestructible? *laughts in European* Also, there are almost no German VWs anymore, built either in the East or in Mexico. Nobody in Europe buys a VW because of reliability, only because leasing rates are very good. People looking for reliable cars in Europe buy Japanese or Korean cars.
@@CadillacFan77 If your product can survive Balkan countries and Eastern Europe and run just fine after decades of abuse and neglect due to poverty and abysmal infrastructure as well as rough terrain in some places - well, I'd say you made a pretty darn good car.
'But that goes only for their older models'. Nope, they do make reliable cars nowadays too, otherwise there wouldn't be so many of them on the road now would there?
Yes, Japanese cars are without doubt most reliable, most durable mechanically but claiming VWs aren't durable is just flat out dumb, if you'll excuse the expression.
I'm not a VW fanboy (even though it probably seems so), I'm just stating how it is over here. In the last ~20 years in Eastern Europe Volkswagen's 1.9 TDI cars were what Toyota Camry/Corolla was in North America (and reliably continue to be so). Indestructible.
It amazes me how many people blame the worker. I have 3 foreign brand vehicles.
The trick is all 3 were forged and assembled in America. They are all solid and run like clocks.
This proves it has NOTHING to do with the workers.
The problem is when you have to make money for shareholders - thats when a company is no longer about a good product. I am so tired of short warranties and things that keep breaking way before they should under reasonable circumstances - from cars, electric wall socket plugs in my house, plumbing fittings, electric heaters... Buying cheap is extremely expensive when you consider replacement + labor.
Conservatives SAY they hate socialism but get pretty socialistic when it comes to bailing out large businesses.
I count myself fiscally conservative and was against bailouts.
I'm a hardcore conservative and wish we would've let them die, bailouts are a joke. Capitalism works because bad business fails and good business thrives, unless you bail out the bad business of course
No they don't.
It's not conservatives but crony capitalists leveraging Congress through bribes, lobbyists, etc. Most conservatives disdain crony capitalists.
@Alverant - Giving failing businesses a loan that they MUST pay back isn't socialism. With such a poor grasp of economics, it's a small wonder you're (presumably) a liberal.
In developing nations you either go Japanese or European if you've got the money. If you buy anything American you'll be considered a masochist
Not just developing nations.
If you buy European or Japanese in North America you’ll be considered fancy
@@kawaiidere1023 not true. Toyota and Honda is very middle class, the average commuter
@@kawaiidere1023 nope. Low to middle is japanese, and European for the upper class.
I once saw an Escalade. Living in South Africa, from Nigeria. It was such an odd thing to behold.
Everyone seems to be saying "oh foreigns are great, domestics suck."
Let me give you a bit of a reality check. I work at autozone and have done some mechanic work on the side. I will never own a foreign vehicle except for some toyotas and hondas. Almost all european cars are extremly over engineered and thus hard to fix and expensive too. I remember one of my coworkers was trying to change a headlight on this lady's audi and it took him an hour (which he then stated would never do again)
The price of parts is almost always double if not more than what the domestics are. I also generally prefer the performance of what is offered in the domestics than the foreigns. Sure domestics have a lot of duds, but there are good cars if you look. My f-150 has been good to me so far and my camaro is still running after almost 40 years.
The only manufactures that will never fail are the luxury brands like Ferrari Mercedes Lamborghini Bugatti Pagani Aston Martin etc.. there will always be rich people who buy rich cars
"The next recession will make the 2008 recession look like a joke"
Me in November 2020: you have no idea
Also Me: damn, even ISIS buys Toyota
Of course, it is hard to commit atrocities or enforcing horrible backwards laws if your transportation doesn't reliably get you to the people you want to oppress.
Are you sure they paid
Well, the see C Aye I eh A pays the bills.
1:52 GM is also leaving Australia. Holden failed.
Rodney Milner R.I.P. Holden, yet another car brand ruined by Americans
@@masterskengman6055 I'm American, and I must say, I don't exactly have a positive view of GM...
Psa should buy it
Yep look at saab
@@privatejoker9828 GM only know how to screw up any good company
The thing that is very ridiculous to me is how in major cities people are driving pickup trucks and they are not using them for work
Well done. Great analysis.
I worked for CarMax and they follow the Kaizen model. That's why they're so far ahead of other used car dealerships. They're always improving something, even when it was not broken.
This American problem is not only in the car industry. Its the same at a software company I worked for in the US. The only thing that mattered was sales. The quality of the software was bad but this was seen by virtually all of my US colleges as good because it would increase the support needed by the customer who needed to pay for support. Better quality meant less work for the support department so less profit. Convincing the company to increase the quality of the product felt like a crusade to me. As a European I was completely baffled by this. It felt like they had no pride for the product, only for their profit. Its a mindset that if not changed will destroy any and all industries because bad products simply don't sell. Not only American cars don't sell in Europe. Its hard to find any product from the US in Europe anymore. Radio's , cars, airplanes, televisions, refrigerators etc.
America’s unregulated market allows for a system of domination where in the end all costs are passed to the customer as there is no competition. In Europe, due to market regulations, competition stays alive and well and in the end the results are competitive products and prices. The way we teach economics in America is centered around American capitalism, and doesn’t take into account other economic and social structures, despite many being superior.
1995 Monte Carlo Z34 in 2021, at 218K miles: Rusty, NEVER fixed, constant check engine, third EGR valve in 3 years, cost 4500 currently (including purchase), 2 months after purchase had spent 2500 on it total, and was parked as the suspension needed to be fixed urgently.
2003 Honda Accord LX in 2021, at 245K miles: Rusty, but solid mechanically cost 1600 1 month after purchase total. Currently, the only issue is the belt tensioner, which is a 30 min job VS the near hour it likely would take the Monte.
.......This video checks out.