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  • @theendofmyropemydude
    @theendofmyropemydude Před 5 lety +888

    "I keep trying to pass myself off as a beta card, but I'm dummy thicc and my backing keeps alerting the market"

    • @BASHMAN9t5
      @BASHMAN9t5 Před 5 lety +13

      who cares 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚

  • @JoshTavares
    @JoshTavares Před 5 lety +1714

    Adding "Ohhhh It's so thick" to my Rudy soundboard. Thanks for the clip!

  • @jmbthegreat
    @jmbthegreat Před 3 lety +829

    Honestly, Rudy could start his own authentification company and make bank actually identifying and authenticating cards. At this point, I would trust him over Beckett any day.

    • @sarowie
      @sarowie Před 2 lety +24

      the problem with authentication is, that you will never be 100% certain if you have the real deal and you sometimes will label a card suspect, as it varies from all references you have, but it might be genuine from a print run you never seen.
      On the other hand, there a businesses acting as authenticates, that complain about how hard their business is - very funny: If you can not do the one thing you claiming, do not enter the market. So... the very best people for the business avoid the business as they know their own limits.

    • @nickfotopoulos5323
      @nickfotopoulos5323 Před 2 lety +16

      Right? He needs his own rating system. Mint cards would be 10 Rudys.

    • @dunkinzdad
      @dunkinzdad Před 2 lety +4

      Au-then-tif-i-ca-tion?

    • @rex_ad_regum7540
      @rex_ad_regum7540 Před 2 lety +5

      Over Beckett? You're smoking better trees than me. Take Rudys appraisal to auction...see how far that gets you.

    • @briannelson3830
      @briannelson3830 Před 2 lety

      @@sarowie interesting comment

  • @jaytessier1455
    @jaytessier1455 Před 5 lety +1266

    Rudy: Shows several thousand dollars worth of Collector's Edition cards
    Also Rudy: Can't afford a new printer cartridge

    • @JohnIbizu
      @JohnIbizu Před 5 lety +14

      More likely need a new printer than new ink.

    • @asianwanderer7243
      @asianwanderer7243 Před 5 lety +16

      JohnIbizu lol it’d probably be cheaper. 😂

    • @darksideinc8889
      @darksideinc8889 Před 5 lety +30

      @@asianwanderer7243 true that. They are drug dealers, they give you a printer to get you hooked on their ink

    • @asianwanderer7243
      @asianwanderer7243 Před 5 lety +16

      @@darksideinc8889 and the first hit (cartridge) is always free.. lol cause it comes with the printer haha

    • @p3ykhacks
      @p3ykhacks Před 4 lety +1

      Probably need a cheap bright LED light lol

  • @Sirenhound
    @Sirenhound Před 2 lety +71

    "I hope you learned something today"
    Yes I did. Although I doubt I'll be able apply that knowledge anywhere.

  • @Aspennut34
    @Aspennut34 Před 5 lety +1778

    Ruby you should change your channel name to Beta Investigations after this

    • @zerokidd21
      @zerokidd21 Před 5 lety +29

      Ruby with Tommy investments

    • @Vynjira-chan
      @Vynjira-chan Před 5 lety +9

      @@zerokidd21 Ruby with Tammy investments?

    • @Dan-oy7pr
      @Dan-oy7pr Před 5 lety

      he should make a sub channel in relation to this one

    • @rosscarroll6735
      @rosscarroll6735 Před 5 lety +4

      You've already changed his name to Ruby

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Před 5 lety +26

      Here is something to investigate and a Warning to North American Buyers - i hope Rudy sees it:
      Beckett grades German cards from the "Renaissance" Set as "1994 Antiquities". Just check Ebay for "Antiquities German". Currently someone sells for example a Beckett graded Mishra's Factory from the German Renaissance Set (Black border and Set Symbol) for 499 USD, which are worth about 3-4 Euros in M/NM condition.
      Beckett not knowing about Renaissance as a Set seems unlikely considering their Expertise of Magic The Gathering.
      So Beckett claiming german Renaissance Set cards which are not worth much are "1994 Antiquities" is very misleading. The Sellers don't point that out either, they of course abuse the Fact that their Renaissance Card was classified "Antiquities" by Beckett.
      Would love to .see Rudy look into this

  • @sofaninja0552
    @sofaninja0552 Před 5 lety +375

    Rudy you should invest in a digital micromiter used in machining precision parts. Then you can get actual thickness measurements you will always be able to pick out even the best reback cards in the world

    • @meantforu222
      @meantforu222 Před 5 lety +7

      I was thinking the same thing. Some nice mitutoyo calipers would be great. Maybe even overkill.

    • @km5405
      @km5405 Před 5 lety +4

      with the money he makes some good calipers would pay for themselves in the cases which are hard to tell.

    • @Dysan72
      @Dysan72 Před 5 lety +17

      ​@@meantforu222 nah, you want a micrometer for measuring thickness, though the calipers would be good for the other dimensions.

    • @meantforu222
      @meantforu222 Před 5 lety

      @@Dysan72 why would the calipers not work? New to machining and shop work and trying to learn more about methods.

    • @Nidkidful
      @Nidkidful Před 5 lety +22

      @@meantforu222 Calipers don't have a force control, so with soft materials, or measurement deltas below ~.003, they are not particularly accurate or particularly consistent. Also, a 0-1 digital micrometer can resolve down to .00005~, which means that even variations in the rolls of paper are easily seen.

  • @JackSilver1410
    @JackSilver1410 Před 2 lety +53

    I started playing magic in 7th Edition and it gave me a group to belong to all through middle and high school. Even played at work now and then. That stopped, though and for years my cards just sat there doing nothing. Recently, my brother in law got back into it and began to teach my nephew the game as well. Thing is, he is all about the value of cards, what they're worth in terms of money he can get later on. I see cards in terms of value within the game. So suddenly having someone that close that I can play a game I loved with, but who only sees it in terms of gambled investment... It's a little soul killing.

    • @smhgaming3259
      @smhgaming3259 Před 2 lety +2

      Same but with pokemon and yugioh wanted people to play now they are collection but only for money

    • @B.V.Luminous
      @B.V.Luminous Před 2 lety +3

      When you realize that people are spending their money to get back a feeling, or get a feeling they could not reach when they were younger and had less capital to spend on experiences...
      THAT is when you will learn that some are creative who LIVE every day, and some are survivalists and are already dead.

    • @JackSilver1410
      @JackSilver1410 Před 2 lety +4

      @@B.V.Luminous Dude, I just want to play a game I remember enjoying. There's no need to come in and hork up all that "I'm 12 and this is deep" ish.

    • @B.V.Luminous
      @B.V.Luminous Před 2 lety +1

      @@JackSilver1410 yup, you are a creative.
      The card seller is a dead soulless being.

    • @GlutzahnLP
      @GlutzahnLP Před 2 lety +5

      ​@@B.V.Luminous I see it a bit differently, if he was "just after the value" he wouldnt play the game and teach it to your nephew. He shares the fun of playing that that you have. if they had no game value to him he wouldnt play. Yeah your old cards have sentimental value and thats why they have so much more value to you, but he has no sentimental connection to it. Just imagine if you had known like you had a card back then you didnt need for example because it wasnt in your colors or stuff and you knew you could get money for it wouldnt you have done it? I started playing last year and our group drafts a lot, great fun, but I sell almost all cards that are worth something almost immediatly, because I dont need them, they would gather dust in my place and maybe even get damaged. So I sell them, someone who needs them can buy them and treassure or play them, so the cards have a use again and I can use the money to play another event with my group (for example someone recently bought my cultivator collos, she needed it for her commander deck, so she was happy she found the card and I had a bit more money which I then spent on a booster box that I opend with my group (we enjoy opening boosters together). And the cards I dont need and are not worth, I give them to the two ppl in our group that love collecting and they are happy about them. For me thats the soul of the game, giving the cards a kinda purpose beyond laying in my binders. I also have a few cards I treassure that I like or have some story behind them. Like for example that sorin my playgroup gifted me. I would never sell him, but I understand everyone who would. Enjoy the time playing with your brother in law and your newphew :)
      I hope that didnt come across "im 12 and this is deep"ish ^^"

  • @TealGaming-fb8bs
    @TealGaming-fb8bs Před 5 lety +462

    Went to Home Depot asked for a Rudy’s tool. Was escorted out.

  • @seanmartin806
    @seanmartin806 Před 2 lety +28

    "I dont want to take this off camera" immediately covers the entire shot with a paper towel...

    • @PaulOrchard
      @PaulOrchard Před 2 lety +2

      This, for future make sure nothing crosses the camera as it can hide a smart wipe, and is a trick used for swapping out stuff in videos.

  • @retrochrisayala125
    @retrochrisayala125 Před 5 lety +57

    I don't know a single thing about Magic but damn, Rudy is entertaining.

  • @monstar7566
    @monstar7566 Před 4 lety +11

    I love that you are looking out for your fellow MTG players and investors. really teaching people about the scams that go on in anonymous marketplaces. Keep being awesome Rudy! the timmies are counting on ya.

  • @BareBeautyBodypainting
    @BareBeautyBodypainting Před 5 lety +238

    Now the question is, how many rebacked cards did Beckett grade as authentic and give an actual numerical grade to? If it wasn't for the bad trim job they would've given that card a number grade, no?

    • @mobili2
      @mobili2 Před 5 lety +58

      Problem is the company recognized the card as authentic beta edition. Even altered, the paper says it's genuine, which isn't. I hope they hadn't sold many cards on this situation. Otherwise, they might be sued for collectioners

    • @MS-gn4gl
      @MS-gn4gl Před 5 lety +56

      @YourMovieRocksDOTorg that's absolutely idiotic. Becketts whole business model is identifying authenticity and quality.
      If you think they'd purposefully ruin the trust they've spent decades growing with collectors to make a few more bucks giving gradings to fakes you're out of your mind.
      This was a lazy employee who needs to be fired immediately.

    • @Kirkto7
      @Kirkto7 Před 4 lety +5

      M Simoes or it’s not a real rating? Notice how easy the box was to open? Also the serial number can’t be found on when looked up

    • @8BitGamer4life
      @8BitGamer4life Před 4 lety +7

      It was probably carefully opened and swapped. Or someone at Beckett gave no fucks.

    • @Dominik-ev9en
      @Dominik-ev9en Před 4 lety +8

      Well its a genuine beta back, it’s just the front that was altered.

  • @hadi7474
    @hadi7474 Před 5 lety +198

    Rudy saving Timmies all over the world! Inb4 people are saying PSA paid Rudy to destroy Beckett.

    • @cragscleft1658
      @cragscleft1658 Před 5 lety +2

      A comment doesn't get much better than this.

    • @hugorodgers3138
      @hugorodgers3138 Před 5 lety +2

      hadi7474 *Ruby*

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Před 5 lety +16

      +hadi7474
      I'm gonna save some Ultra Timmies too, if someone has Rudy's e-mail address, please tell him about this:
      Beckett grades German cards from the "Renaissance" Set as "1994 Antiquities". Just check Ebay for "Antiquities German". Currently someone sells for example a Beckett graded Mishra's Factory from the German Renaissance Set (Black border and Set Symbol) for 499 USD, which are worth about 3-4 Euros in M/NM condition.
      Beckett not knowing about Renaissance as a Set seems unlikely considering their Expertise of Magic The Gathering.
      So Beckett claiming german Renaissance Set cards which are not worth much are "1994 Antiquities" is very misleading. The Sellers don't point that out either, they of course abuse the Fact that their Renaissance Card was classified "Antiquities" by Beckett.
      Would love to see Rudy look into this

    • @SmiteKhepri
      @SmiteKhepri Před 5 lety +1

      @@chartreux1532 His business email is in the video description my dude

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 Před 5 lety +3

      @@SmiteKhepri For Business yes. Patreons of Rudy have another E-Mail address i believe where they can ask question or inform him about stuff. Or did he say in some Video that People can e-mail him non-business related stuff to his business e-mail?

  • @bjarnivalur6330
    @bjarnivalur6330 Před 2 lety +27

    I've never played MtG, don't even know the rules, no idea why this was recommended, but I still enjoy this quite a lot.

    • @gurgy3
      @gurgy3 Před 2 lety +2

      Same, except I felt like I was listening to comic book guy from the Simpsons.

  • @sam1127x
    @sam1127x Před 5 lety +90

    You should weigh it, most MTG cards weigh about 1.75grams (beta and forward editions)

    • @tylerschafer1296
      @tylerschafer1296 Před 5 lety +10

      Yeah or caliper the card

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike Před 5 lety

      I just commented something like this. Not knowing the actual weights though. It HAS to weigh more tho that fake one.

    • @OdinPlays94
      @OdinPlays94 Před 4 lety

      1.78-1.81 grams if I recall correctly.

  • @WhatDoify
    @WhatDoify Před 5 lety +296

    Literally cutting corners on quality/authenticity.

  • @leighboyter5824
    @leighboyter5824 Před 5 lety +187

    Rudy switched it for a taco when he moved the paper towel.

    • @dracolnyte
      @dracolnyte Před 5 lety +2

      lol what is the ongoing joke with tacos and rudy? im new

    • @CensorWars
      @CensorWars Před 5 lety +1

      I saw it

    • @Jaqen-HGhar
      @Jaqen-HGhar Před 4 lety +5

      you joke but he could've easily inserted a cut there. There is a reason directors use stuff like that during one take scenes to hide cuts. He shouldn't have said, "I'm gonna keep this card on camera" and then immediately covered it up.

  • @Mana_Thief
    @Mana_Thief Před 5 lety +23

    This format is kinda cool. The "stay tuned for the reveal tomorrow" double episode. 😁 it really leaves u curious about the next video.

  • @eessppeenn001
    @eessppeenn001 Před 5 lety +168

    Why am I watching this? I have never played or owned any magic cards.

    • @Lectrikfro
      @Lectrikfro Před 5 lety +8

      You're lucky, I played and owned Magic cards back in Beta.
      Watching these videos makes me hard core regret giving my cards to a younger cousin (I stopped playing around Ice Age)

    • @bobolilricky5328
      @bobolilricky5328 Před 5 lety +1

      I have never p li ayed or owned magic ether why was this in my feed and why did i click on ut lol

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali Před 4 lety +1

      Honestly, this type of stuff should be interesting to anyone wanting to know how to spot counterfeiting. While counterfeit money is an entirely different beast than MtG cards, there's some similarities that can be spotted if you've seen the ways people counterfeit playing cards. The corner not being cut right or the thickness of the card are some examples that could apply to dollar bills. Getting 20s, 50s, and 100s from the bank shouldn't concern you. But if I get a $100 bill as part of a large exchange you bet your balls I'm handing it back if I don't feel like the weight, size, or font doesn't feel right.

    • @shuboy05
      @shuboy05 Před 4 lety

      @@nekrataali Or baseball card collecting.

    • @warrenvanbuskirk1337
      @warrenvanbuskirk1337 Před 4 lety

      Cause Rudy does not ware pants! Is there any other reason?

  • @EdwintheMagicEngineer
    @EdwintheMagicEngineer Před 5 lety +95

    Look at you Rudy... all grown up and presenting ground breaking news and info to the MTG Community!
    On my old Dan Frazier playmat I got at GP Vegas 2017 no less!

  • @jackdischer6323
    @jackdischer6323 Před 5 lety +51

    Ruby says: If the label is BLUE it’s NOT for YOU!!!!

  • @Mithrandork
    @Mithrandork Před 5 lety +4

    Educational Ruby is my favorite Ruby. Super interesting video.

  • @ANoBaka
    @ANoBaka Před 5 lety +156

    I'd like to know what Beckett says about this

    • @patmacrotch5611
      @patmacrotch5611 Před 5 lety +14

      They will tell you that they put on the report, but only the person that sent the card in can see it.

    • @tranquil_cove4884
      @tranquil_cove4884 Před 5 lety +47

      how hard is it to fake a Beckett label?? I looked up the serial number on the website and it says "no record found" .......

    • @gohugo472
      @gohugo472 Před 5 lety +28

      probably fake Beckett box

    • @patmacrotch5611
      @patmacrotch5611 Před 5 lety +8

      @@gohugo472 The owner of the card may have reported it before this video was released.

    • @invertedcrayon
      @invertedcrayon Před 5 lety +18

      @@gohugo472 maybe thats why it was easier to flex open

  • @TavisKingsChannel
    @TavisKingsChannel Před 5 lety +71

    Thanks for the shout out! :)

  • @zerokidd21
    @zerokidd21 Před 5 lety +170

    I have never been so hype for a video. Let's do this.
    Edit. Mmmmm boi she thicc

  • @WeAreSoPredictable
    @WeAreSoPredictable Před 5 lety +166

    This piece of cardboard with no intrinsic value could feed you for months if you sell it.
    This piece of cardboard with no intrinsic value, despite appearance _aaaaaalmost_ identical, could _also_ feed you for months if you sold it to an unsuspecting person, but not if that person knows precisely how to distinguish one piece of cardboard with no intrinsic value from another of equal intrinsic value.
    We live in a strange world. :)

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 Před 5 lety +6

      If you think this is a strange world, get into the world of collecting rare coins. There are many examples of coins with a face value of $20 or less, which if you took it to a bank thats exactly what they'd give you for it. But sell for 100's of thousands even over a million dollars at auction.

    • @KS-ui4hi
      @KS-ui4hi Před 5 lety +3

      Yes us collectors of premium cardboard live in an odd world

    • @gabedurno6780
      @gabedurno6780 Před 5 lety +5

      Collectors are weird

    • @ethereumcxcx8261
      @ethereumcxcx8261 Před 5 lety +27

      Trading a piece of cardboard for paper money with no intrinsic value.

    • @Nekotamer
      @Nekotamer Před 5 lety +6

      @@ethereumcxcx8261 that's fiat for you.

  • @stereodark
    @stereodark Před 5 lety +4

    Very informative video. Unique chance to see the details of a beta Pearl, will use for future reference!

  • @walnutt01
    @walnutt01 Před 5 lety +21

    This Ruby guy is obviously just an advanced body snatcher who can show emotion. It continually references Rudy in third-person and has access to all of his tools. Beware.

    • @athleticrevenge
      @athleticrevenge Před 5 lety +2

      And his video lasts 13.37 to boot. I think real Rudy is trying to send us a message.

    • @MrEiht
      @MrEiht Před 5 lety +1

      Trying to be funny?

  • @MTGUnpacked
    @MTGUnpacked Před 5 lety +5

    Wow, that's pretty damning. Great detective work, Rudy! What would you expect the light test to show? Dim light without the characteristic pattern, or no evidence of blue core (due to thickness)?

  • @clockwork-crow
    @clockwork-crow Před 5 lety +2

    You're a gem to the Magic community, and I don't even play MTG. Your passion almost makes me feel like getting back on the wagon lol.

  • @Zeoinx69
    @Zeoinx69 Před 5 lety +15

    Laywers should hire you as an expert wittness and sue these companies to the ground so they stop existing

  • @Zaph0d
    @Zaph0d Před 5 lety +28

    As soon as you cracked it and we saw the surface, it was 100% obvious, then the 0 closeups, no doubt whatsoever, Ruby you nailed it as it is, dodgy reback.

  • @Raaanch
    @Raaanch Před 5 lety +16

    Shine a light through the card to how much glue they used. lol

  • @FumblezXIII
    @FumblezXIII Před 4 lety

    New sub. Getting back into magic and im happy to see this much attention to detail and how you describe your knowledge on these cards. You are awesome!

  • @cop154
    @cop154 Před 5 lety

    Thank you Rudy.I shared this and the previous one around

  • @jacobmullins299
    @jacobmullins299 Před 5 lety +10

    Rudy is gonna lead the SEC non-traditional securities task force

  • @NapoleonDeBombarde
    @NapoleonDeBombarde Před 5 lety +11

    'Don't wanne mix it up' When he can clearly pick it out of a stack..... Blindfolded
    Nothing but love for you rudy but tjees louise!

    • @naphackDT
      @naphackDT Před 5 lety

      HE can.
      But he has to make it so that it is evident in the video which card is which because else some jackass is gonna accuse him of swapping cards.

  • @jamesaloyisius6210
    @jamesaloyisius6210 Před 3 lety

    Thanks mucho. That was really informative and the forensic aspect of it made your examination exciting.

  • @vwlssnvwls3262
    @vwlssnvwls3262 Před 4 lety +1

    Just for fun, when breaking out the tools you ought to throw in a small sledge and torch. :D
    Once again I can tell the difference by the printing and rosette pattern of the printing. It makes sense because you would need an expensive press and a lot of money and stock to get the same printing method as the real cards. The kind of devices a counterfeiter would use to print are not likely to create any screening pattern.

  • @MauricedelTaco
    @MauricedelTaco Před 5 lety +65

    Awe, I was hoping for a light test 🔆

  • @KrepsyK
    @KrepsyK Před 5 lety +17

    Rudy: "I'll tell you this"
    CZcams: "Go to longhorn steakhouse"

  • @ryaq3250
    @ryaq3250 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Rudy for this. Giving information to people. Knowledge is really power.

  • @jukka-pekkatuominen4540
    @jukka-pekkatuominen4540 Před 4 lety +5

    I also wish I could see how thick the card is. Almost like there should be a tool to measure such a thing. A micrometer perhaps (or calipers). It would make this video so much more entertaining.

  • @saintclavat
    @saintclavat Před 5 lety +23

    Aren't you supposed to be able to put in the ID# to get the items history? I tried on the beckett website and it has no listing for the given ID#.

    • @omnicode
      @omnicode Před 5 lety

      ^^^

    • @ThePetalesharo
      @ThePetalesharo Před 5 lety +2

      This combined with the fact that the case was easier to open than all the others Rudy has done makes me believe that they faked the whole thing

  • @goremall4330
    @goremall4330 Před 5 lety +3

    Been waiting for Ruby to open this since yesterday 😀

  • @belowzeros
    @belowzeros Před 5 lety

    pretty cool uncle rudy. always amazed at the inventory and skills that make a video like this possible.

  • @TheCommisar1
    @TheCommisar1 Před 5 lety +2

    Rudy do you collect the CE edition black lotus's or is that somthing you avoid? What do you think of the future value of the cards?

  • @cannon0wood
    @cannon0wood Před 5 lety +11

    Buy a set of digital vernier calipers. You can measure card thicknesses and compare.

    • @peterlee9691
      @peterlee9691 Před 5 lety

      A micrometer is better, I used them for calibrations.

    • @AlmondHoneyOats
      @AlmondHoneyOats Před 5 lety

      but how will he know the digital calipers are authentic??

  • @Bradley-Rowe
    @Bradley-Rowe Před 5 lety +8

    I agree with the other comments, you could weigh the card and compare it to the actual beta. Also, you could get your hands on a digital, ratcheting micrometer to get an accurate and consistent thickness measurement. (I would definitely use a ratcheting micrometer instead of a caliper since the ratchet aspect will force you to use the same amount of pressure with each measurement).

    • @samueld5418
      @samueld5418 Před 2 lety

      good job reading other comments and then parroting them

    • @Bradley-Rowe
      @Bradley-Rowe Před 2 lety +1

      @@samueld5418 i posted this comment two years ago when the video dropped. I don’t see a single other comment mentioning the repeatability advantage of a ratcheting micrometer. I was by no means parroting the other comments. Just adding my 2 cents. Have a great day Samuel.

  • @NinStarRune
    @NinStarRune Před 5 lety +7

    I'm on to you Rudy, that was a Resealed Graded Card!

  • @ThomasRushing
    @ThomasRushing Před 4 lety

    Great video! Would have been cool to see a light test to see the finish pattern of the glue.

  • @bleasher
    @bleasher Před 5 lety +9

    Hey Rudy, could you follow up on all of this? I think it would be interesting and informative to the community to see what the next steps would be to correct this situation. Giving the eBay seller the benefit of the doubt, he sold what a professional told him was authentic. But clearly that authenticator appears to be wrong. However, they can't be sued for the $2k that this eBay seller might have to be out in order to compensate the buyer per eBay's own seller guidelines, right? Would love to know how this ends up. ALSO, not to sound conspiratorial, but what are the chances that people from Beckett are working with eBay sellers? Has this ever been looked into?

  • @Earthboundmike
    @Earthboundmike Před 5 lety +15

    You could probably weigh the cards if it's that thick.

  • @williampowell6067
    @williampowell6067 Před 5 lety

    Rudy for me, watching your show is definitely an education. The old adage “caveat emptor” rings true!

  • @SpaceDad87
    @SpaceDad87 Před 5 lety

    I haven't played magic in years ,but I still watch your vids just because you are so entertaining lol.

  • @GK-iq2md
    @GK-iq2md Před 5 lety +3

    I don’t even play mtg but I love your videos and learning about the cards. Keep the videos coming Rudy!

    • @wasabiwaffle
      @wasabiwaffle Před 5 lety +1

      You should totally get into magic, it's great. If you don't have the time to sit down and play with some friends, I'd recommend MTG arena, it's completely free if you don't want to spend any money

  • @_RED_-
    @_RED_- Před 5 lety +13

    I'm still waiting on how to tell if my taco bell coupon is legit video

  • @lonsmithicus
    @lonsmithicus Před 5 lety

    This is that big thing in the works he's been talking about. WOW! Thank You Rudy. Sincerely

  • @marcush4741
    @marcush4741 Před 4 lety

    Would a micrometer help in showimg a differemce, or couls it cause some markings?

  • @DA-mu5zi
    @DA-mu5zi Před 5 lety +3

    Rudy, if i can make couple suggestions from the perspective of a printing press operator. Get a digital caliper "20$". You can measure the thickness "in mm, or decimal inches, or pts" of legit cards and use it as another point of reference for verification. We use them constantly in the print industry to measure paper thickness to set the gap between plate and blanket "squeeze". Also, get a printers magnifying glass "Printing Loupe" "10$" that way you can actually see the tonal pattern, and individual dots. You will easily have verifiable evidence with these tools. It might be interesting if you were to get a USB magnifying camera and really show the audience the blatant frauds from the legit prints.

  • @ZERO_42069
    @ZERO_42069 Před 5 lety +20

    Rudolph from Alphabet investments

    • @RyanJohnson
      @RyanJohnson Před 5 lety

      You mean it doesn't say Rudy on his birth certificate?!

  • @jaybrooks1098
    @jaybrooks1098 Před 5 lety

    Use a micrometer to show thickness. You can see the heat marks from the iron used to seal the two together

  • @AaronGottaHelmetCam
    @AaronGottaHelmetCam Před 5 lety

    how consistent is the thickness between authentic cards? could measuring with a quality digital micrometer be used to help establish if a card is re-backed?

  • @KenM_1987
    @KenM_1987 Před 5 lety +6

    Hey Ruby! How was your day?

  • @SmokeyDaRoach
    @SmokeyDaRoach Před 5 lety +14

    "Wow that's so thick!"
    -Ruby, 2019

  • @retromtg1834
    @retromtg1834 Před 5 lety

    Just jamming those cards in that binder.....that you threw on top of the other cards.....
    oldschool. I like it

  • @Quantum-
    @Quantum- Před 3 lety +3

    This is interesting considering beckett being the grading company of choice for forgeries/fakes/rebacks. This makes 2 magic and 3 pokemon card cases where the graded card was questionably authentic that I've seen in the last year.

  • @theryuyami
    @theryuyami Před 5 lety +5

    I've dealt with fake cards before, so when you did that first bend it hurt my soul

  • @MrUshiikun
    @MrUshiikun Před 5 lety +21

    The real question is how many cards with good trim jobs got actual grades?

  • @nerdzzbob6961
    @nerdzzbob6961 Před 3 lety

    Alpha investments what are the collector edition boxes you have called, is that just a holder or do cards come in it

  • @supreemmdb2
    @supreemmdb2 Před 5 lety +2

    I love how right behind the Mox is the Black Lotus...

    • @mrknarf4438
      @mrknarf4438 Před 5 lety +1

      Techmite I mean, have you seen that Beta binder?! And you get excited about a CE Lotus?!

    • @supreemmdb2
      @supreemmdb2 Před 5 lety

      @@mrknarf4438 lol... Considering I know nothing about MTG besides what was known (back in the early 90's) that the BL was the one spoken about the most... and also know very little beyond the Alpha set, I easily get excited when seeing it. All the others, even though valuable, they don't really hold much sentimental value to me. I can still remember the days of opening up a single pack of cards from a game that many didn't even know about yet (from a small town), and seeing that BL... holds a memory.

    • @mrknarf4438
      @mrknarf4438 Před 5 lety

      Techmite Of course, but that's a Collectors Edition Black Lotus, meaning it has square corners, isn't tournament legal and is worth around $1k. Each of those Beta Moxen is worth around four times as much, and they are playable cards, they're way easier to sell and harder to find in good conditions. Had it been a playable Lotus, even from Unlimited (the third and least expensive printing) I would have shared your enthusiasm, but CE cards are kind of only good for collectors.

  • @JOEL6780
    @JOEL6780 Před 5 lety +4

    Dude don't even play magic just love the commentary and passion. Watch all the time

  • @Patrick_Andrews917
    @Patrick_Andrews917 Před 4 lety +4

    "WHERE'S MY TOOL?! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHERE'S MY T- - oh, there it is!" 😂😂😂 gets me every time

  • @sneakerhead8745
    @sneakerhead8745 Před 3 lety

    I'm not even into magic cards like that but this is very educational I learned something already today and it's not even noon yet lol thank you.

  • @ultimatum.
    @ultimatum. Před 3 měsíci +1

    Rudy!! You gotta show this in 2024!! There has to be an update to put fresh awareness of this. Your grading company PCG, you should save some fake examples, even for Pokemon now that it's so valuable. It could boost your channel's growth even more, and gain respect with newer subscribers. I'm in your corner, stay the course.

  • @teratogenus
    @teratogenus Před 5 lety +5

    the next step will be to grade good cards, carefully open the case, reseal the case puting fake/ungradeable cards inside, profit.

    • @JordanRCcom
      @JordanRCcom Před 5 lety

      That has already happened with older PSA holders in the sports card world...

  • @randispoling
    @randispoling Před 5 lety +5

    "Wow! Thats so thick!" - Rudy : 2019 - Giggity.

  • @bigmclargehuge8219
    @bigmclargehuge8219 Před 5 lety

    New to the channel, have no interest in collecting magic cards, but MAN is your enthusiasm infectious!!!

  • @Grovesrussell
    @Grovesrussell Před 2 lety +1

    Micrometer or calipers would be a great addition to show thicknesses

  • @zeradox1901
    @zeradox1901 Před 5 lety +44

    If it is thicker and you cannot show it to us, you could have weighted them? In the next video then? Thank you Rudy-eyed Ruby

    • @GeelsProduction
      @GeelsProduction Před 5 lety

      Be careful or he might just do [Redacted]

    • @surgeonchad2740
      @surgeonchad2740 Před 5 lety +2

      Thats a great idea

    • @Arghore
      @Arghore Před 5 lety +3

      Either weighing it on a hyper sensitive scale (try a hemp shop for one of those) … OR … there are actually quality measuring tools in DIY stores, be it that they are metal and might thus be not such great tools to get close to fragile material, but using a paper wrap to protect the card and measure it that way would work.

    • @jamesXDleAdguitar
      @jamesXDleAdguitar Před 5 lety +2

      Also curious about the light test, he mentioned it but never did it. I would like to have seen it.

    • @PinkysPain
      @PinkysPain Před 5 lety +1

      Just put it between two cheap cards and measure the thickness with a caliper.

  • @arrancooper69
    @arrancooper69 Před 5 lety +23

    Buy a micrometer so you can show how thick each card is in Micron

    • @Demonlord468
      @Demonlord468 Před 5 lety +4

      Thats what i was thinking the whole time. I guess not everyone keeps a Micrometer close by like gunsmiths and machinists. hahaha

    • @robertabugelis3962
      @robertabugelis3962 Před 5 lety

      Do you think a caliper is accurate enough?

    • @scottthornley5405
      @scottthornley5405 Před 5 lety +1

      @@robertabugelis3962 sure, decent digital calipers resolve to .0005" Typical piece of paper is about .003". Card stock should be something like about .012"-.015" as a SWAG. Easy enough to determine if a card is .002-.003".
      And yes metri-pedants, I'm using inches. Because we all know there are two kinds of countries in the world: Those that use metric, and those that put men on the moon.

    • @Demonlord468
      @Demonlord468 Před 5 lety +1

      @@robertabugelis3962 A good high quality one? Yes. Absolutely.

    • @mhhuusko
      @mhhuusko Před 5 lety +4

      @@scottthornley5405 NASA used metric to put men on the moon :D

  • @muchachomalo
    @muchachomalo Před 5 lety

    If you would like to buy a presicion measuring tool to measure the thickness of cards I would recommend a digital micrometer. You could easily measure the difference in card thickness with that.

  • @BlackGulchSaloon
    @BlackGulchSaloon Před 2 lety +4

    I've been watching Sons of Anarchy lately and after seeing this video I'm now imagining some shady ass ruthless biker gangs running a counterfeit TCG racket in a warehouse hidden out somewhere in the woods.

  • @RyanJohnson
    @RyanJohnson Před 5 lety +17

    I'm shocked you threw your binder on top of those real Mox Pearls...
    "Only you can prevent surface damage"

    • @OneOfDisease
      @OneOfDisease Před 5 lety +3

      Pretty sure he put it on collection edition moxs

  • @WandaII
    @WandaII Před 5 lety +1

    Yay! Love it that you use the top grade FINNISH scissors of Fiskars!

  • @Kyle_Harding
    @Kyle_Harding Před 5 lety

    I would expect authentic cards to weight a certain amount? and have a certain resolution on the printing, like a standard PPI?
    A scale and microscope might help with buying?

  • @GreatlyLovable
    @GreatlyLovable Před 5 lety +7

    I think they intentionally trim them obviously to try to distract from the other signs.

    • @SparkB0x
      @SparkB0x Před 5 lety

      Good call

    • @andysullivan1120
      @andysullivan1120 Před 5 lety

      I think the trimming is a dead giveaway. It should be a big red flag for Beckett.

    • @empurress77
      @empurress77 Před 5 lety

      They trim them to fit in with the other cards in their decks so as to not chest. BTW these cards were printed by WOTC and have been rebacked with other cards printed by WOTC. Read; "Genuine altered"

  • @Shifter_Fitter
    @Shifter_Fitter Před 5 lety +7

    Thank you Rudy . ALSO a big Thank You to the person that sent Rudy the card and let him crack it open .

    • @intuit13
      @intuit13 Před 5 lety +1

      dude wanted to use this as evidence for his ebay investigation/ticket. Free professional service, all video recorded. I'd do it as well.

  • @jedstanaland2897
    @jedstanaland2897 Před 2 lety

    I have a mis cut Nicole bolas Planeswalker that is so badly cut it doesn't fit into a perfect fit sleeve properly. It is a Foil and I once got it priced at between 500 and 2,000 dollars. I didn't purchase it separately it came in an official product and I don't remember which one but I'm also wondering if it is really anything close to that price. I could see a very slight difference in the thickness and I have heard of people who did a reback by treating it with a type of cleaning solvent that dries almost immediately and is used for dealing with hydrolic fluids to remove all the unwanted pigments and then put on their own new ones. They got so good at it you could give them a random Foil and they would give you another card of your choice but it would be a Foil now. For example he made some Foil black lotus cards and was able to pass them and other cards to grading services and they couldn't tell the difference. He may still have a shop but he was also playing with fire with Wizards.

  • @FatGuyBuilds
    @FatGuyBuilds Před 5 lety

    How can u mix them up if one is soooo much thicker?

  • @EricTheCleric93
    @EricTheCleric93 Před 5 lety +14

    Wow what a scandal. Beckett has some explaining to do, this is so obviously a CE card.

    • @JordanRCcom
      @JordanRCcom Před 5 lety +2

      It was clear it matched up to a collector's edition card when it was still in the holder and I don't even play Magic... You could see the "0" to the right and the tone of the brown.

    • @Juzamdan55
      @Juzamdan55 Před 5 lety +3

      The glossy finish gave it away immediately

    • @dickjohnson9996
      @dickjohnson9996 Před 4 lety +1

      nah i trust Beckett, a 40 year old card grading system over some youtuber who keeps saying it's thick. He keeps saying he wishing he could bend it or rip it but if he was 100% sure it was a fake then he'd just do it. Fucking coward, either it's worth nothing, then rip it, or it's a real card, and he's suckering all you guys for clicks. Nah son, this youtuber has more explaining to do.

    • @sengir84
      @sengir84 Před 4 lety

      @@dickjohnson9996 Let's rip up something that's worth 400 bucks still, when it's an obvious not-Beta from just the mana cost alone.
      Am I getting your point right?

  • @Osk570
    @Osk570 Před 5 lety +30

    Rudy keeps his moxen in an o-ring binder, not a d-ring. the professor would be ashamed.

  • @sheriffofrockridge9095

    Like the video. Never graded magic cards. I have bought two football which received altered/trimmed and when you first get them it doesn’t appear that anything is off

  • @rsk3286
    @rsk3286 Před 4 lety

    Rudy, you need to get some calipers for this kind of stuff. Calipers can measure down to the mm, or even thinner depending on how much you spend. They would have easily shown the thickness you were trying to explain/show. Big fan here! You’re awesome sir!

  • @sitapollo90
    @sitapollo90 Před 5 lety +3

    I really hope we get a follow up video if PayPal refunds or Beckett says anything in regards to this

    • @ezg8448
      @ezg8448 Před 5 lety +1

      sitapollo90 - hard to say, probably not because the description DID NOT misrepresent the product in any way whatsoever.
      Also because of the so-called “professional” authentication ebay or paypal may feel it isn’t their responsibility to issue a refund.
      Just my guess of course.

  • @bragoen
    @bragoen Před 5 lety +16

    Hey Rudy, it would be interesting to test them with a good precision calipers. Also would the weight be different on a rebacked card ?

    • @TavisKingsChannel
      @TavisKingsChannel Před 5 lety +5

      The weight can be different on a rebacked card.
      This one is probably heavier if it feels thicker.
      You need a very precise scale to weigh single cards.

    • @bragoen
      @bragoen Před 5 lety +3

      @@TavisKingsChannel Thanks for your reply, yeah I wasn't thinking about your standard kitchen scale but I was wondering if ther was a way to substantiate the "feeling" of being thicker. Maybe sliding it in a stack or cards would have been enough to show it was thicker idk.

    • @AdamHaas
      @AdamHaas Před 5 lety +3

      Those are the next-level (possibly silly) in-depth videos that patreon want.

    • @bragoen
      @bragoen Před 5 lety

      @@AdamHaas Why do you think I'm asking ? :)

    • @noahblevins9569
      @noahblevins9569 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bragoen I use a scale that measures down to 0.01 grams. Essentially, it can measure 20% of a single drop of water.
      The scale was 25 dollars. Im certain it could detect a difference in weight if Rudy was able to do so in his hand.
      It could be interesting for him to show the difference in card stock between sets. The weight of the cards is prolly slightly different.

  • @joshuarowan2928
    @joshuarowan2928 Před 4 lety

    Rudy calipers are great for getting an actual number to thickness if you wanted to show the variations of card thickness for fakes. Your doing amazing work thank you

  • @danielwdunn
    @danielwdunn Před 5 lety +2

    If it's noticeably thicker by hand, could you use a caliper to measure the difference in thickness to determine if it's been rebacked or not? That might be a good test.

    • @genesistoomega
      @genesistoomega Před 5 lety

      you probably could, youd just have to be careful. Calipers often have sharp edges, I could see it scratching the card

  • @liffei420
    @liffei420 Před 5 lety +9

    Ruby you should drop by harbor freight and get a digital caliper, you can measure the card thickness down to 0.001 inches or 0.03 mm only $18 I would assume a rebacked card would be thicker