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This is one of the best Tweaks that exist. Enabling MSI mode for the GPU usually boosts the minimal FPS quiet heavily, so you get less stutters. I made some tests and for me this tweak boosts the 0.1% and 1% by about 20%, which is insane...
g00d keylogger dog, after install this app my PC crashed.
@@canandan1688 It's normal if you do anything it breaks your PC you have to check interrupts that you shouldn't have checked. This software is useful but you have to know how to use it, and not just watch a video and apply it exactly.
I really appreciate your content. I followed the instructions of multiple videos here and improved my gaming experience absurdly. You should really release a single, longer video with all the tweaks on a logical sequence, so anyone who needs to do everything from scratch can follow chapter after chapter.
more videos is more clicks which is more money.
agreed a new updated one with everything in
not actually like this xD@@Dcully
Yh
@@Dcully idc he deserves the money, he actually helps people
Going to try this now on my gtx1070 which has been kicking ass for 5 years and got a clean the other day. To many more years! Thank you!
How'd you get on, my son's running a 1050 ti and I think I'll give this ago when I get home
@@tenbears8844 life changing but something turned it off after I put it on.. Unsure.. Felt much more responsive.
g00d keylogger dog, after install this app my PC crashed.
3:47 to skip the BS and get to the setting
W 🙏
Definitely helped my latency. Less hit markers now, thanks.
Reading through the comments it looks like the RX6xxx cards already have this setting on at default. I wonder if that's down to AMD cards having less CPU dependency than nVidia, where it seems to make more sense for nVidia to have this setting off so the GPU could lean more heavily on CPU compute cycles to boost the GPU. Not sure if anyone has done that test though.
i would go for gpu use the computing rather than my cpu.
In some cases yes in some not , maybe it depends on Brand.
I use allways manual Tuning , running the RX6900XT a litle above Factory Setting and i can Play ALL Games in Native 2k very well. I dont Play 4k ,because most Games just do it by upskaling and this cost a ton of power for the GPU.
And running constand at 100% isnt good for any GPU!
Tbh it could be down to AMD having the SAM so that could be by default enabling msi mode for gpus
Thank you so much, I was having issues for about a week I tried everything I could find on google or CZcams, I tried this & now it’s running better then ever, thank you so much !
Ty for the awesome tips keep up the good work mate!
Thank you for this. I am running an AMD Radeon RX 580 and this feature was already activated and set to undefined. This card is still performing amazing well even with all newer games.
Do it heat up the room?
g00d keylogger dog, after install this app my PC crashed.
Using a 4070 and an i7-9700k. Enabling this made a huge difference to my system, particularly to 1% lows. My low end frame rate in cyberpunk went from 56 to 64.
edit Jan 2024:
TLDR the difference was likely not due to turning on MSI but Win 11 upgrade.
I have a 7800X3D now.
After further testing I don't think MSI was what caused this difference, I think it was upgrading to Win 11. I had done about 100 tests under Win10 testing different system variable changes doing at least 5 runs for each setting. The Cyberpunk benches were always very consistent so I never bothered running a baseline test before enabling MSI even though I had upgraded to Win11 in the meantime. After reinstalling drivers and MSI turning off I re-ran the bench several times and then re-enabled MSI. The results were almost identical. Based on this it looks like the improvement was due to Win11. A few driver revisions later started automatically enabling MSI so the point became moot.
I realise the rig I had then seems unbalanced but the CPU was really only an issue in Dogtown for cyberpunk or cities for Starfield. I have a 7800X3D now so no framerate drops in cities.
You need a new cpu. Why have you got a 4070 when your cpu is very slow?
Get 11700F / 11900F, they are dirt cheap
@@gotrak2769 my friend has a 4070ti with a ryzen 7 3700x
@@Coolixonwhy? It's still good enough that he will be GPU bottlenecked in most games anyways... my brother still runs an i5 6600K and is honestly fine for 1080p with the 980Ti I gave him since I upgraded to a 3080Ti
@@DerRushertoo many people think old is bad but if you bought something good I still lost. Who would have thought😂
the algorithm is with you my friend.. nice tip. will check it out!
thank yaaa ur channel helps a lot
I've got to be honest I've been chasing lower frame times for months, and this wasn't the silver bullet that I was looking for, but I noticed a huge improvement, and my games play a lot smoother now.
AMD CPUs with 3D cache ftw 50 plus FPS 1080p PUBG from my 3950x using my old 980 TI underrated cards still great for 1080p with any 3D cash chip. Too many people think the GPU is how you get your FES with not looking at how the usage is, even we're working at the time. They're just like oh my PC sucks. I wish I had a 490 and they have some old ass CPU from 10 years ago😂 because like this for games that run like s*** like PUBG get the fastest CPU you could get but don't exceed eight course. Yes all the streamers get paid to use Intel on the esports people use until and then they have to use Intel and then all the kids think Intel is the best for gaming😂 Yes, the 3D crash isn't used in all games, but if you play PUBG this is the CPU you need to make the game run almost perfect😂 did I lose in code time leaving my 16 core? Yeah, but every reviewer seems to sometimes hate on AMG's eight course saying oh the render times the render times when usually it's only 10 seconds longer to a minute tops. If you can't wait an extra minute or so, you got more problems than you think. Rant over peace, peace, happy game at all ❤
@@digitaltactics9234 wtf did i just read
@@digitaltactics9234I have a 7800x3d it’s so fuckin good I just got it to I kept my 3070 and upgraded my ryzen 7 3700x and switched to ddr 5 ram as well 6000 made a huge difference yeah some people are stupid it depends on the games you play depends on what you need to upgrade but jumping straight to a 4090 or through 4070 with a chip from even 5 years ago is stupid ash tbh
@@Facelessmotivation1did the msi thing help ur 3070?
At 5:18 it still shows IRQ at 54, which means it is NOT running in Msi mode. Msi mode IRQs have a minus in front of it.
so how to fix this
@@aymanoov1 Not sure since I never experienced it. However you can try downloading 'MSI mode utility' version 2 or 3 and then activating/checking MSI there. Just be sure not to change the 'limit' value. Some people may be confused and think the limit should be set to the max limit or lower but this is not the case. If you screw it up though in most cases a corresponding driver reinstall should solve it. Be extra careful messing with your OS drive's settings though.
@@Koozwad it was unenabled and it was 16 but i used msi utility version 3 enable msi and now -8, so is -8 is good now for my rtx 4060
@@Koozwad thanks alot
@@aymanoov1 Glad to hear it worked.
thx again panjno! im gonna try this one
bro, you're a legend. I was playing the finals was getting 80 fps max dropping to 50 sometimes, now getting 100 + with no drops.
that's not possible
@@ShadowStick02 LOL
@@ShadowStick02 it is, ive a very good pc but i once did 1 tweak and it gave me 300 more fps on top of my 700 fps i already had
That feature wasn't applied to my recently purchased RTX 4070. It was opposed to what you said down here. I'll definitely make observations as to how things are going to change but it seems to be a right step into the right direction. Thanks!
Dude you have an RTX 4070, how much more performance do you need?
I'm gonna try it and I have a 4090. So what? Let the man get the most from his 4070.@@Molix1981
@@Molix1981 He wants the performance he paid for
4090 check time I'll let you know 😉
@@Molix1981 He paid for the whole 4070 and he is going to use whole of it.
I am a PC optimization NUT! I love this kind of content and very much encourage it. I already knew about this optimization, but did not know the risks of setting msi to "high" instead of the more balanced and efficient default setting "undefined". Thank you for educating me on that, and I'm glad I can now game even more confidently X)
tell me some basic things and the best emulator to run games .... my laptop specs - Ryzen 5 5600h 16gb ram {high consumption of ram , cmmited 8-10gb ram} 516 ssd
I've heard other people recommend the msi setting for the gpu should be set to HIGH.
@@Latin00032 he does a good job in this video explaining why thats not the best option
@@FATMAC2 yes. I think I should switch mine off of high.
@@Latin00032dis you watch his video silly goose 😅?
so you can enable this feature inside nvcleaninstall and does the same? i only use nvcleaninstall on my 3090 to install drivers anyway and i checked the box but it won't let me use undefined, if i put "default" it will revert to "normal", what should i use?
RTX 3070 on zephyrus g15 2021 already enabled. Thank you for all your wonderful videos. They've been quite the blessings.
I did this from your older video and just happened to go back into the setting to see and low and behold... it was not turned on any longer. I have no idea how or why it turned off but I'm glad you did this vid again. I'll be checking the setting once in a while from now on.
Run as admin
@@MukulRawat505 Will do.... Thanks
Like someone said, gotta do it every time you update drivers
NVDIA driver update turns it off everytime🥲
when i looked at this I saw in the msi app that my irq was at -53, I see yours says 54. Can you say why my number is a minus number compared to yours. Thanks
Really good video you helped me alot :D keep it up
@panjno i love how detailed your vids are ty for all the time you put into your vids
actually insane thank you for this!
On a GTX 1080 and went from 60-70fps to 80-90fps in cyberpunk on the new 2.0 patch!
bro how are you getting so many fps in cyberpunk? i have a gtx 1650s and i get below 60 in some parts of the game. i think im gonna enable this and hope it boosts it.
@@toetoe551 well this was a help but the game itself is well optimized. I do run a very different mix of settings, from medium to high but a few low that really drain FPS.
Which do you turn on low? @@Velakor9150
@@toetoe5511080 is better so that could be
Also enable msi on audio controllers. It will get rid of popping and cut outs if your suffering that
Love the video mate thanks a lot
I have a legion 5 with a 3070, had TERRIBLE microstuttering until I found the guru 3D forum too and did basically the same thing in the video, glad to see a biggish channel covering it!
Already enabled on my 6800xt. Was worth a check and happy to know it was already enabled
Can confirm, it was already enabled on my 6700xt as well.
Ur so reliable thanks
thank you!
you're a legend panjno
Hello, thank you for the video! My 4070 GPU already had the MSI already ticked! But I appreciate this amazing content!
@@melih.ozturkmy zotac 4070 was MSI auto on but on undefined
I used msi mode enabled and set to high for my USB port where my controller is plugged in. Made my controller so much more responsive
How do u know which one it is connected to?
@@313Noxzread the names on the left
I have a 3080, MSI was already enabled and set to High, I set it down to Undefined just to be safe, because I cant remember if I changed this setting or it was already set.
g00d keylogger dog, after install this app my PC crashed.
I thought I had this enabled from a while back. I've had several nvidia updates via NVclean install since and msi was off. Which option should I turn off or on the NVclean installer to make sure this doesn't happen? 😊
This setting resets to the default every single time you update the drivers
thanks alot for this video it really works,,
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This is a good tip just know any AMD gpu has this already enabled by default if the card is in the 6000/7000 series, I haven't tests 5000 series.
So a 6950xt will already have this?
@@exoticspeedefy7916 Yes, any AMD card from the last few years has it by default without needing to change it. It's mostly Nvidia cards that don't have it enabled but I believe most of the cards for Nvidia in the last year have it.
Its enabled for my 5700xt
my 6 year old rx570 already have this on default. i just found out today.
Undefined, interesting. I am using this for about three years or so with high interrupts for the gpu and never changed it again. I am gonna give it a try with my 4070 ti.
Looks like "undefined" has improved my experience. Funny, because that became the default for the nvidia driver some time ago. How ever, I can feel a improvment in latency with the setting set to "undefined". Thanks for your video and thanks for the food of thought.
@@he1go2lik3itgood to know! I have a 4070 and i9 9900k, I had on High as well. Will also try undefined.
@@he1go2lik3itWhat would happen if I set it to high instead of undefined?
@@he1go2lik3it so undefined have a better latency?
MSI mode is a new version of IRQ addressing, not all boards properly support this mode for certain devices and can in fact cause your system to not post requiring you to reset the bios and to use restore point to undo the setting.
The first time I watched your video this helped me so much Thanks
I'll do this to my new used PC I recently bought, that has 1060 6gb and i5 7400!!!
I'm sure this is a good tip and it's working for other people, but I seemed to get worse performance. Witcher 3 ran perfect with MSI off but stuttered after turning it on. 5950x/4090/Win 11.
i heard that for 3000 and 4000 cards its enabled by default
@@Aiden-hd8hw I have a 4090 and it was disabled.
@@Aiden-hd8hw I'm using a 4070 and it was disabled by default.
@@Broszu i have 3080 tuf and is on by default
I'm using 4070ti and it was disabled. Not sure about the difference in FPS. got to try turning it off again sometime and let you guys know.
been struggling with starfield running at between 30 - 50fps constantly jumping about now with this one tip (after trying 100's of 'fixes') its running at 60fps smooth as butter even in the cities thank you
which card ?
@@deveshpanwer2717 3060
god damnn i just did this and there is a huge differents i love it my pc got as fast as light only love for u my guy!
for 30 series and 40 series gpu don't stress for downloading the tool cuz it's already enable by default
Appreciate the time saver (on a 3060ti)
Edit: since lots of people replied saying they had to enable it on their 40 series cards, I went and downloaded the tool. Yeah, it was enabled by default on my 3060ti.
Had to enable it on my 40 series card.
My Founders Edition 4090 did NOT have it enabled already.
I had to enable it on my Rtx 4070 ti
Not enabled by default on 40 series only 30 series
my rx580 already had this enabled, would it be worth testing some games with it off to see if theres any improvement?
Is it recommended to do that on a gaming laptop?
I have strix scar II with an RTX 2070
Let me know YOUR results, specs and if MSI was enabled already or not below!
Not able to downlaod the msi v3 it says url blocked
Never mind its banned in my country lol. i used a vpn and i can download it now
@@futureacousticwhy would they ban it
@@futureacoustic ya might wanna be sure you're downloading a legit thing.
Not just was my GPU (RX 6950xt) the first thing that showed up at the top of the list, but it seemed to already be enabled as well.
Though I do want to ask, would it be a good idea to set it to high priority just to test it and see if it changes anything for the better? If not, I imagine I could just set it back to undefined afterwards if it causes instability.
Might skip on that one, as it is made clear that there's a chance the affected device may stop working until MSI is disabled if it turns out to not be compatible - but if you have no onboard graphics you won't be able to turn your PC on to disable MSI back, bricking your windows...
Edit: I enabled it anyways without having an iGPU and it still booted, YOLO lol
it doesn't change any firmware on the gpu/bios or otherwise, its a setting within windows, so for example if you set a negative IRQ with your Sata Controller, and find that you cannot boot, you simply just need to do a fresh install (format drive, clean install) i first used this tool years ago and found out which devices can/cant be changed, gpu is pretty much the only one thats benificial and most new modern drivers for devices should be set in negative irq modes too
@@shadowxsm true, thanks. I later figured a safe boot was likely to be able to recover it too, and happily didnt have to do it anyways
I was meant to say “brick your windows” also lol that sounds funny
Status update - disabled it for now, was having Memory_Management bluescreens. Decent chance it was caused by this, but can’t confirm.
I will try this out. I'm having issues with my game play (COD) where it freezes for a second during play. I hope this will fix the issue that I'm having. I will keep you updated on the results.
yo this made cs2 run buttery smooth for me, thank you so much Panjno
Thanks my 3080ti had this setting enabled already - so many settings - never saw this one before.
Confirmed. Was off by default for RTX 4060. Legit gave an increase of around 10-20% fps in 1440p gaming (at least between Armored Core 6, Remnant 2, and Forza Horizon 5)! So… any downsides to leaving this turned ON?
No real downside as MSI is a standard since PCIE 2.0, using a bit of data to signal a needed interrupt, instead of the default shared interrupts for everything in the system, which can cause exhaustion and thus higher latency.
Thanks a lot bro helped me a lot
I run a 4070 super , it was already enabled thanks to your custom driver debloated guide
had an asus 4080 and it was NOT automatically enabled so BIG THANKS to you for showing this!
gtx 1050 ti and it was already enabled and on high then I changed it to Undefined as you said. Thank you bro. Can you also do next time the best Settings for Nvidia Control panel specially for Valorant players like me? I really wish I can be the best gamer even if im using 1050 ti and Ryzen 3 hahahaa
Best setting for Valorant would be to uninstall.
@@federalcheesegrater556can you explain why?
Because its literally just a unfun money generator for riot with the objectively worst fan- and playerbase in existence!
I hope this cleared up any confusion!
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@@tamaaaa1517 CS2
@@tamaaaa1517every game has haters 🤷
RX5700XT here. The option was indeed checkmarked. Thank you for the video and tip sir.
3090Ti & 5800X3D here - this setting was already enabled upon inspection. Still, didn't know about this utility. Thanks for the info m8.
Unending yapping...when he could have tell everything in 2 min
Did it help tho?
who the fuck are you lol find a different video then
That’s CZcams’s fault. The longer the video, the longer retention, the more CZcams’s algorithm will suggest and promote your content. That’s why a lot of craters with a shorter video will leave a few minutes of random gameplay at the end. Generally you want to get around 10 min+
I feel you but some people actually try to learn as they watch
You’re gonna end up ruining your pc if you’re just gonna enable and disable anything people are telling you to. I’d rather an explanation on why I’m enabling and why I’m disabling these features. It keeps me informed about my pc and what I’m actually doing to it but i guess for small brain people like you, it would be easier to just show you what to do without any explanation.
You need to test by setting it to undefined and setting it to high for me setting it to high was the best result
How much difference? And what gpu you using?
It actually worked.. ThanQ!
Asrock RX6600 Challenger: was already enabled/undefined even after resetting the pc the system enables it by default which this is good
In Starfield at least, I ended up getting worse performance. Indoor areas were perfect for me in Starfield, but there was noticeable stutter after I turned MSI on. I’m using an overclocked 2080ti if that makes any difference. It could be that only 30 and 40 series cards get a boost from this.
Use the same GPU and no changes for me at all with this settings, starfield still same heavy stutter
More likely it's that Starfield is unoptimized and needs a lot of work by Bethesda before we get an optimized game.
Are you both installed it onto HDD ?? if so then that why the Starfield is being likes that to you guys. It is not made for the HDD. It is made for the SSD and it got nothing to do with unoptimized. Just bugs and glitches to sort out. It is a newer gen now as it is at least six core to runs today games and install it only onto SSD or above to get rid of stutters, least RX6600 otherwise it'll crashed as below cards can't withstands to runs it as it is not made for any card below Rx6600 either
Only SSD - And now with assasin's creed mirage, no problems at all. Starfield is just shit optimized for older systems
@rumling81 I had ryzen 5 2600 and rtx 3050 installed on SATA ssd, it ran like dogs***, installed on m.2 ssd no other changes played perfectly
I stumbled across this video and checked for MSI for my GPU, which was on. However, I noticed my audio drivers had MSI disabled.
For around two years now, I've dealt with periodic audio latency, popping and dropouts. Sometimes bad enough to ruin the gaming experience, prevent me from watching videos on CZcams and even playing songs downloaded on my storage drives. I've tried to fix it many times, and had some degree of success (haven't had the video/song issues for a while). I have upgraded nearly every component in my rig since these issues began, with only my C and D drives remaining.
I did some quick reading before enabling MSI, and it appeared it would help.. So far, it has completely fixed the issue! I want to say thank you for introducing me to the MSI utility because that indirectly helped me rid of my plague for years!
I have a RTX3070 with the latest stable Nvidia game ready drivers, v537.42 and in the MSI tool it says that MSI was already set and I didn't set or enable this myself?
I'm using Radeon RX580 and it's already checked and set as Undefined. Thanks.
This is very good for 1% lows on my RTX 4080! I'm impressed!
4080 has it enabled already…. Fail
Mine did not have it enabled@@nathanielsmith4691
@@nathanielsmith4691he just wants us to know that he owns 4080. Fail.
The yapping is over 9 thousand
How is he yapping?
Genz spotted ⚠️
@@BrodenX bruh you cant talk you upload free fire and minecraft vids
@@EXP256 what do u post kiddo ??
That message ( Genz Spotted) wasn’t for u Xd
@@BrodenXyou would’ve been better off just not replying
this may a bit off topic, is Opera good now ? the last time i used it, it flooded with bugs.
I have a Nvidia Geforce Gtx 1080 TI and it was not enabled gonna make a edit on here when ever i restarted the PC!
Big fan of your work
appreciated, keep the comments coming :)
I was actually surprised at the impact this had on performance. Especially in just visual fluidity. Rtx 4080
Yea me too everything runs like butter
Thank you! Checked my gpu and it was on.
nice video, subbed :)
For someone who talks about 'debloating' you have an awful lot of it stuck on the beginning of your own video.
This setting resets to the default every single time you update the drivers
what did you expect mate? A setting that directly affects gpu performance is obviously gonna get affected by a driver update
@@ThatNorma I am just warning people since the video didn't say it
@@ThatNormaHes just warning people, a lot more help than you.
Thanks for the heads up. Will check next time I update my drivers. 👍
I would imagine this helps PCVR as well? Most games are good but having a hell of a time getting MSFS to be playable on a 3080ti
I have RX 6800 XT XFX and it was already enabled when running the MSI utility v3. IRQ of -98. What does that mean?
pretty bad thumbnail, it says +latency, you do not want more latency lol
Sadly, I must report that changing this setting has made no statistically significant difference to game framerates on my system. I can only conclude that my GT710, stuffed to the brim with 2GB of DDR5, is so powerful that it has no need of such footling tweakery. I'll leave it switched on though, just in case... 😀
I tried it and it seems to be working, but what I am afraid of, however, is overheating. Could it couse any overheating on the long run? could this tiny adjustment cause any negative side effects to my computer?
is there a way to undo any changes made to system with the msi utility v3, as I changed more than just the gpu and can't remember the default settings of everything at this point - please help.
Gosh there seems to be a lot of fast-talking filler to get through to actually get to the content.
these tutorials are for tidepod eaters, i hope you all like reinstalling windows if you are following this guy lol
Yeah rn I’m resetting my entire PC bc I followed one of these types of tutorials. It just didn’t feel right. Probably some way for someone to control your PC. I only fell for this bc i was desperate asf for a solution.
do you have to re-enable this setting per gpu driver update, or will it remain on until turned off?
driver install resets it
Glad to see Ghost Spectre already have it enabled. Meaning nothing much I need to do.
I use a Nvidia mx330 can you pls give some tips to overclock it for better fps
What is the setting this relates to in ur Nvidia Driver Debloat guide? Whats it called in that? Aka the alternative way u were saying?
Can it help to reduce the load on the CPU ? When I play fornite only during fight when building a lot my CPU usage hits 100% .. I try process lasso and do many software but nothing works ... 😢
checked this on a razer blade 17 with 2080 and 3080 both has already been turned on by default
so on laptop only check the nvidia gpu or both integrated and nvidia ?
I tried this out on my 4070 and it dropped my average and 1% low framerates so much that my game was unplayable. I changed it back and I'm still having a bad experience. I need to try to find a way to revert my system back so that I can fix whatever got messed up.
did you find any fix?
should have created a restore point mate
is it hard to give us full optimization video with the latest tweaks ? just asking
very good video bro! Thank you very much. Does this not cause any wear on the gpu? Is it due to high energy consumption or high temperatures?
no interrupt are low level calls nothing related
My gigabyte rx 6800xt 16gb already has it enabled. Thanks anyways. Keep up the good work
I am using an EVGA RTX 3080ti. My drivers were installed with the NVcleaninstall utility and MSI appears to be enabled. Which is a bit of a disappointment, I wanted some 'free' performance.
I have a Ryzen 7 5800x with an XFX 6750 XT and it was already enabled checked it all out as I was curious neat tool thou not very many option popped up for me only 2 were not checked and had to do with audio
why when dlssv3 is activated in starfield and battlefield in the lower left corner you can see the data, in several games it happens to me, and I would like to hide the information, is it possible?
ASROCK 7900xtx was already enabled. Thank you for the video