£1,000 S-Class v 7 Series v Lexus LS - the best cheap car?

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    If you wanted a luxury car without the luxury price tag, you’d probably consider buying a used car... But how about a used car that’s 20 years old!?
    Well, Mat’s got his hands on a Mercedes S-Class, a BMW 7 Series and a Lexus LS all from the early 2000s to see if opting for a classic limo is worth it. Oh, and he’s going to launch them, of course!!
    First up is the Mercedes S320. Back in 2001 it would have cost £51,000 but we bought it today for just £1,800. It’s got a 3.2-litre straight-six turbodiesel engine that produces 197hp & 470Nm.
    Then there’s the Lexus LS430. It would’ve cost £54,000 when new, but we got it for £2,000. The Lexus packs more power than the S-Class, coming with a 4.3-litre V8 petrol engine that delivers 281hp & 417Nm.
    Finally we’ve got the BMW 735i. In 2002 this would’ve set you back £53,000, but today it cost us just £1,400. This 735i has a 3.6-litre V8 petrol engine putting down 272hp & 360Nm.
    So, which of these old limos will be Mat’s favourite? Keep watching find out!
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  Před 2 lety +940

    So, which of these old limos would you go for? VOTE below!

  • @krizzzy
    @krizzzy Před 2 lety +5524

    I hope this become a regular series. Reminds me a lot of the old Top Gear cheap car challenges!

  • @naderharb3889
    @naderharb3889 Před 2 lety +906

    Mat just needs to find 2 more people like him and start the sequel Top Gear deserves. The first couple of minutes were very nostalgic to top gear

  • @zakmoh5808
    @zakmoh5808 Před 2 lety +352

    After owning the Merc S320 and the LS430, I have realised how good the Lexus is. Everything just works.

    • @blackjack7581
      @blackjack7581 Před 2 lety +50

      Technology can't break when its not there in the first place lmao

    • @realkilju
      @realkilju Před rokem +14

      @@blackjack7581 true lol but its a good thing

    • @trdturbois3005
      @trdturbois3005 Před rokem +24

      @@blackjack7581 how many German vehicles are coming with Adaptive radar cruise, Oscillating vents, truly luxurious seats, heated/cooled front & rear seats, massaging seats (that work), fridge, an actual responsive & reliable touch screen infotainment, filters for almost every seat, a timeless look, a reliable air suspension system that is also not too expensive to repair/replace, an actually reliable car and not to mention a secret compartment for a small pdw?
      Some of this (design/look) can be opinion based and subjective, but come on lol let's be very honest here
      The Lexus got the most features, a decent price, and 10x more reliable than any German luxury sedan from this era. I would hands down take a long trip in the ls430 any day instead of the other vehicles.

    • @posadist681
      @posadist681 Před rokem +9

      @@trdturbois3005 Wish the lexus was better to look at but I dont look that great either so its a perfect match for me 😂

    • @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
      @TonyKimtheamusementparkfan Před rokem +13

      I saw a 2000s Lexus LS430 in my neighbourhood, and it is really clean, exterior and interior wise, and it works very well.

  • @metalcorpse6427
    @metalcorpse6427 Před 2 lety +140

    I currently own an LS430. Hands down best car ever made. Incredibly smooth, very reliable even parts are easy and cheap to replace. It's a gem.

    • @jeremiahtjaimi9596
      @jeremiahtjaimi9596 Před rokem +1

      I want a proper nice car I have 1100 pound cash it must be lexux or Mercedes plz

    • @joeschmo4170
      @joeschmo4170 Před rokem +7

      Merc? Don't.
      Five years w two ls430s. Not a single penny. Still have still love

    • @christophermartin972
      @christophermartin972 Před 6 dny

      The Lexus is incredibly easy to work on. I was so amazed how simple it was I even did the timing belt myself, which was also surprisingly easy!

  • @saptorshimukherjee8532
    @saptorshimukherjee8532 Před 2 lety +1127

    I want to see mat do a review of the Lexus LFA.... Carwow please make it happen 🙏

    • @abnfalcon3901
      @abnfalcon3901 Před 2 lety +36

      Yeah but the thing is they are super rare, only 500 of them were ever made and worth millions of dollars in these days.

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik Před 2 lety +30

      He has done this before when he used to work for Auto Express.
      But yes, I wouldn't mind seeing Matt reunite with the Lexus LFA.
      Matt reviewing the LFA back in 2010: czcams.com/video/pDYGdmNFxIo/video.html

    • @bebechu8421
      @bebechu8421 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes, thats a must !!

    • @aabidamn
      @aabidamn Před 2 lety +13

      @@abnfalcon3901 If Mat can get his hand on the Enzo, Nevera, Chirron, etc I reckon can get his hand on the LFA. He could also ask Yianni and Nabil for help. I bet they personally know an LFA owner in the UK.

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 Před 2 lety +2

      @@aabidamn LFA owners are not snobby showy people so probably have to go to the gentleman's club for that

  • @ArkitektoHardinero
    @ArkitektoHardinero Před 2 lety +665

    I go for LS430. But I must say the 7 still looks stunning. I always thought it looks unique (a bit odd) and I like it. The design is ahead of its time. Can't believe it's 20 years old!

    • @michaelforster5379
      @michaelforster5379 Před 2 lety +22

      Now we truly see Chris Bangle's genius:))

    • @tomhill3907
      @tomhill3907 Před 2 lety +28

      Love the bangle era, it’s aged so well and looks miles better than the china pleasing shit of today…

    • @hoodrixhveeze1717
      @hoodrixhveeze1717 Před 2 lety +6

      That and the 2004 Acura TL

    • @burperking2788
      @burperking2788 Před 2 lety +5

      these will be modern classics, the ones that live. we'll just be old :) i always loved the bagle design myself.

    • @RB_750GS
      @RB_750GS Před 2 lety +3

      Not being funny though that 7 series was definitely owned by a drug dealer the state of it.

  • @testagiuseppeable
    @testagiuseppeable Před 2 lety +34

    My father had the s320 cdi, I remember that lovely rattle coming from the engine.. It was the most comfortable car in which I have ever traveled. We pushed it up to a speed of 230 km/h and it was still confy and silent

  • @_C_E_C_
    @_C_E_C_ Před 2 lety +30

    This video shows more about the previous owner(s) than the cars itself.
    But its a real-world scenario, and gives you an idea of what to expect for that price range
    Great!

    • @Early2000sPs2games
      @Early2000sPs2games Před 2 lety +4

      They trashed it, spent 2k and I could get a mint condition merc

  • @Skyborn-
    @Skyborn- Před 2 lety +52

    The biggest difference between the 3 older cars is how much in repair costs were spent over the last 20 years. The Lexus owner used tape on his mirror, this suggest he spent no money on repairs.

  • @scientist6790
    @scientist6790 Před 2 lety +210

    Can we petition Mat to do more used car group tests?
    It's all well and good comparing new cars, but I'm sure the majority of us buy cars that are 3 years and older.
    Regardless of what he review's it's all great content.

    • @ConstantinSPurcea
      @ConstantinSPurcea Před 2 lety +4

      no need to petition; if more people watch this content they'll make more of it. It's how CZcamsrs work. Thing is, most people like to watch cars they can't afford go head-to-head so this will always be a niche.

    • @simoneamadi9865
      @simoneamadi9865 Před 2 lety +3

      Bro, in my country we buy 8 year old from Japan as new cars

    • @sanveerkhanuja3249
      @sanveerkhanuja3249 Před 2 lety +3

      @@simoneamadi9865 reliability

    • @nickcartwright2490
      @nickcartwright2490 Před 2 lety

      20 years ago I bought my house for around 50000 pounds. It is now worth quite a lot more than 1000 pounds.

    • @sanveerkhanuja3249
      @sanveerkhanuja3249 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nickcartwright2490 but land value never diminishes so it would be around more than 100000 pounds

  • @MrTimeless101
    @MrTimeless101 Před 2 lety +12

    I think its important to point out that when you see cars like these in such bad condition, after many years on the road, its not the manufacturer to blame, its the owner(s). Keep up with the maintenance and the car will stay good as new.

  • @sean6908
    @sean6908 Před 2 lety +16

    Love this type of content - really cool seeing reviews for these older used cars!

  • @deenel
    @deenel Před 2 lety +370

    More used car videos like this please! Maybe one with an old Volvo S80? New cars are so expensive these days I'm leaning towards used

    • @stopsallmelb
      @stopsallmelb Před 2 lety +1

      Not sure what market you're in, but new cars are generally the same as used, as used are available right now where new cars you're waiting 1-2 years

    • @GolBDeze
      @GolBDeze Před 2 lety +6

      I would wanna see Audi, BMW, Merc 2008 model years battle eachother.

    • @shanginadildo
      @shanginadildo Před 2 lety +5

      @@stopsallmelb u wot M8?

    • @yungboicontigo9278
      @yungboicontigo9278 Před 2 lety +2

      Used cars are just as expensive then new car my guy

    • @stopsallmelb
      @stopsallmelb Před 2 lety

      @@shanginadildo you dont understand the current car market

  • @hafizsyed7304
    @hafizsyed7304 Před 2 lety +370

    I owned a Lexus LS400 and that was the most comfortable and most technologically advanced car even 15 years after it’s built date..most new cars at that time didn’t have specs and features it had. Loved it.. and used to leave so many other,sportier cars in dust at traffic lights in power mode..

    • @muhammedq9109
      @muhammedq9109 Před 2 lety +14

      I had 3 ls400s stanced out on coilovers and it handled better than my new infiniti

    • @TriGgaPenG
      @TriGgaPenG Před 2 lety +10

      Same with the BM I had that and miss it still, like Matt says it looks modern and was ahead of its time. Mercs back then we're disgusting still are now 🤣 love the new lexus though wow

    • @aabidamn
      @aabidamn Před 2 lety +2

      @@TriGgaPenG You love the look of new Lexus? Do you not see the car on their grilles?

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 Před 2 lety +16

      The engine in the Lexus sounds lovely - as Mat admitted. Just needs a new rad. and good for more years I am sure.

    • @shlomy2010
      @shlomy2010 Před 2 lety +7

      LS400s are the best

  • @silvervalver
    @silvervalver Před 2 lety +23

    I had a similar age e class with that engine. The thing I quite liked about it was the lag. The similarity with the e class probably makes the merc the best option of the three really as at least you stand some chance of getting parts

  • @Soussmeboules
    @Soussmeboules Před 2 lety +3

    I have a 14 years old Lexus GS460 and it has no reliability problem at all. This 4.6 L V8 is cheaper to maintain than any existing German V8, and I live in Germany.
    The only thing changed in the engine is the water pump. The rest of maintenance is only yearly oil change, break pads, and soon to be done 2 front dampers. The car runs and runs and runs.
    The condition of my car is obviously way better than these 3, but it’s actual value is way over 1.000 £, it is more around 15.000 €.
    Even for these 3 cars, I doubt you could find it so cheap in Germany. It would be maybe more around 3, 4 or 5.000 €.

  • @OdysseyTag
    @OdysseyTag Před 2 lety +438

    So crazy how modern the 7 still looks on the inside and outside compared to the other two.

    • @michaelforster5379
      @michaelforster5379 Před 2 lety +67

      Chris Bangle is a genius, we see it now:))

    • @r35spectgt-r84
      @r35spectgt-r84 Před 2 lety +37

      Looks worse than the other two

    • @ataipacquiao5713
      @ataipacquiao5713 Před 2 lety +40

      @@r35spectgt-r84 no. Much modern

    • @Candra_mvlog
      @Candra_mvlog Před 2 lety +74

      @@r35spectgt-r84 nope, 7series is the most modern compared to the other two. The merc looks so outdated, meanwhile Lexus’s design looks like it comes from 90’s

    • @Candra_mvlog
      @Candra_mvlog Před 2 lety +10

      @@r35spectgt-r84 nope, 7series is the most modern compared to the other two. The merc looks so outdated, meanwhile Lexus’s design looks like it comes from 90’s

  • @joem8213
    @joem8213 Před 2 lety +262

    The lexus ls430 would be the one for me! One of the most reliable V8 engines in the world. Although i would prefer the lexus ls400, so much cooler looking!

    • @stickshift13
      @stickshift13 Před 2 lety +11

      i'd spend a bit more and get the ls600! with a bit modern and better lookin design

    • @besouniveirs.1643
      @besouniveirs.1643 Před 2 lety +12

      Get a restyling LS430 and you're set for life. Matt was showing the pre-restyle version and Lexus made over a thousand changes in the 2004 version. The V8 is amazing, but as I mentioned in a comment above, extra cooling for the LPG conversion is a must as I had to do a complete overhaul after 60k km on LPG due to cylinder overheating.

    • @tropicalstorm339
      @tropicalstorm339 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stickshift13 There was an LS600?

    • @stickshift13
      @stickshift13 Před 2 lety +2

      @@tropicalstorm339 yes it was a hybrid i think the first lexus hybrid

    • @tropicalstorm339
      @tropicalstorm339 Před 2 lety +3

      @@stickshift13 Ok. That was the LS600h with a 5 liter V8 and electric motor. The RX400h was the first Lexus hybrid (2004 model year).

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před 2 lety +3

    This could be a fun regular series. Nice video. From when i was younger to now I still like the design of the 7 Series the most. Keep up the good work.

  • @09NXN06
    @09NXN06 Před 2 lety +14

    My favorite car brands full side sedans love all three however I'd put my money on the LS430 with less worries.

  • @Traxxmaciek
    @Traxxmaciek Před 2 lety +160

    I would definitely go for the Lexus. It basically won everything except for the looks. And Mat saying that it’s unreliable is just wrong. When you’re in a 20y/o car you don’t look at small details, you look at the bigger picture

    • @jdmguy44
      @jdmguy44 Před 2 lety +40

      Agree. The Lexus needs a new radiator but other than it looks pretty good. Engine sounds lovely. The other two are showing warning/error lights, plus the Merc is rusty and BMWs interior has bits falling off and flaking paint. Despite being neglected I would bet the Lexus will be the last one standing down the line.

    • @bubberlad
      @bubberlad Před 2 lety +4

      whatever the merits of being slightly more reliable, they will most certainly be outweighed by the more expensive parts and the far, far worse fuel economy.

    • @Traxxmaciek
      @Traxxmaciek Před 2 lety +16

      @@bubberlad worse fuel economy comes with better performance.
      Just buy a clapped out diesel golf then. Good fuel economy, cheap part and boring AF

    • @Nikola_W211
      @Nikola_W211 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jdmguy44 the mercedes has an bulletproof diesel engine so i disagree.

    • @christohees9150
      @christohees9150 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Nikola_W211 yap those diesel engines are very good even bmw 30d engines are very good my brother owns a e60 530d with 310000km on the clock and it's still going strong

  • @MrFryer10
    @MrFryer10 Před 2 lety +150

    I love my ls430. Definitely isn’t a sports car and handling isn’t its goal. Drives so nice on the highway

    • @besouniveirs.1643
      @besouniveirs.1643 Před 2 lety +2

      Gosh I wish the brakes were better - it feels so bad and I know people put the brakes from Cayenne to get it more responsive. Pad changes help in the first 1k after the change. After that they feel nonexistent. Mine is also getting a tonne of rust over the years, it's easier to find new doors than getting them fixed at this point.

  • @edvardgarabedian200
    @edvardgarabedian200 Před rokem +8

    I love my 2004 LS430. Great V8 fast for 300hp. Unfortunately, I crashed into a median while doing a sorta fast turn and the bumper and front left wheel axle got screwed up. Thank god it did not get totaled however. And because this car, like the others you showed are old and outdated despite not being too old, it was soooo hard for the mechanic to find a pearl white bumper for the car but we got it.

  • @JustOneMoreWatch
    @JustOneMoreWatch Před 2 lety +32

    Lexus for me, thanks. I bought the best one I could find two years ago, have done all the major preventative maintenance on it, and am settling into the next decade of budget luxury motoring. Oh, and everything works.

    • @ecb116
      @ecb116 Před 2 lety +1

      Hellooooo Jody!

    • @BoycottChinaa
      @BoycottChinaa Před 2 lety

      But you seem gayish in an overpriced camry.. sad!

    • @uniqu3xperience965
      @uniqu3xperience965 Před 2 lety

      So predictable Jody 🙄 in Australia they drive those land cruisers a lot but that is too big mud master g shock for you you are more of casio oceanus lol 😆

    • @MRFUCKOFF202
      @MRFUCKOFF202 Před 2 lety

      Just one more car!

  • @tylansmith1345
    @tylansmith1345 Před 2 lety +44

    The LS430 was my first car and I absolutely loved it!! It has 280,000 Miles on it when I finally got rid of it. Fantastic vehicle and that 4.3 is bulletproof

  • @MrHushCrush
    @MrHushCrush Před 2 lety +9

    3:58 The BMW sold it’s Kidney itself to maintain itself 🤣🤣

  • @VulcanGT
    @VulcanGT Před 4 měsíci +5

    So this is where that re-upload is from

  • @nathanaelnyabani6665
    @nathanaelnyabani6665 Před 2 lety +4

    Really liked this episode you did here
    You should do more like these more often 🤠

  • @kiwicanukable
    @kiwicanukable Před 2 lety +130

    Another version of this with the E Class, 5 Series and GS would be interesting too

    • @805NAVE
      @805NAVE Před 2 lety +13

      GS is king

    • @KING-bb2nq
      @KING-bb2nq Před 2 lety +6

      E60 5series vs w211 e
      Everyone would like to see

    • @sssaaa9043
      @sssaaa9043 Před 2 lety +8

      e class is to good, the other 2 wouldn't stand a chance

    • @meissnerflux
      @meissnerflux Před rokem +3

      Yes . The GS/5/E are much more drivers' cars than the 7/LS/S

    • @burtonfzz
      @burtonfzz Před 7 měsíci +1

      gs450H is a great car for sure

  • @ab-15188
    @ab-15188 Před 2 lety +204

    This is going to be me in 20 years buying cars that I can't afford during my adulthood

    • @lethalhype1931
      @lethalhype1931 Před 2 lety

      I was once you! Now I daily my poster car - a W215 CL 500 Mercedes I bought for 3 grand. Only will these cars u see cheap now be gone by then and either collectibles or long salvaged but u can probably afford a 2016 S Class then 😂

    • @ab-15188
      @ab-15188 Před 2 lety

      @@lethalhype1931 faxx 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe Před 2 lety +2

    If anybody watching this is seriously considering one of these 3 cars go for the Lexus LS430 but get the updated model from 2004 onwards. It'll cost you £5k for one in good condition that's been cared for but it'll last you another 20 years if need be. The 2004 update focused on fixing every known problem and complaint of the 2001-2003 models, plus it included a whole bunch of new tech upgrades that came out after 2001, the 300hp engine stays the same but they changed the transmission to a 6 speed which is silky smooth and with just that an new engine mapping it went from doing 6.4s 0-100 to 5.9s 0-100.

  • @Yannick13C
    @Yannick13C Před 2 lety

    More like this please! New cars are nice, but now and then a throwback to older cars is also nice to see.

  • @shakers4u
    @shakers4u Před 2 lety +95

    Matt in second hand cars, I love it! More please CarWow.

  • @automotivetv9861
    @automotivetv9861 Před 2 lety +44

    The Ls430 needs about $350 of mechanical work but will be reliable for the next 10 years afterwards. I would choose it.

  • @SilverSurfer5150
    @SilverSurfer5150 Před 2 lety

    Like Matt doing these kinds of tests more than the regular stuff tbh!! More, please!

  • @podumalesela5948
    @podumalesela5948 Před 2 lety

    Nice video hope you will do more of these kinda videos

  • @bonzobonanza
    @bonzobonanza Před 2 lety +182

    As much as I love the German brands, I'm going with the Lexus. A comfy, smooth, and reliable car for the money.

    • @Pislik870
      @Pislik870 Před 2 lety +8

      Looks like a carbon copy of the S-Class

    • @lilpold9192
      @lilpold9192 Před 2 lety +14

      Asian cars are utter garbage

    • @ergyshotaj924
      @ergyshotaj924 Před 2 lety +13

      The lexus is the copy/paste of the s-class of the 90's...

    • @iLeetjeeh
      @iLeetjeeh Před 2 lety +28

      @@lilpold9192 what? They are considered to be the most reliable cars

    • @ukimenustah7932
      @ukimenustah7932 Před 2 lety +16

      @@lilpold9192 that's just not true at all

  • @kcweiberg3731
    @kcweiberg3731 Před 2 lety +6

    That 4.3 in the lexus is so smooth and SCREAMS at high rpm

  • @mattm3887
    @mattm3887 Před 2 lety

    I hope you do more of these 👌

  • @Al0011235813
    @Al0011235813 Před rokem +2

    Great video, really informative. The diesel gets double the MPG but is only about 1 second slower to 60, so it clearly makes sense to get a diesel limo. How much would fixing all the faults actually cost? It might be worth paying more for a model in better condition, I’m guessing. If I were buying these things, I would budget 5000 pounds for the actual cost.

  • @12jamiegavin12
    @12jamiegavin12 Před 2 lety +27

    I had a 1999 ls400 which cost me £800. Granted it needed that spent again sorting the suspension but it was a brilliant car! Only 160k on it which in LS terms is barely run in and everything worked. Felt as smooth as I'd imagine it would have from the factory. Miss that car 😢

  • @ttppro1985
    @ttppro1985 Před 2 lety +59

    The BMW kept its design modern for 20 years, still looks good

  • @geoffbob6267
    @geoffbob6267 Před 2 lety +6

    To be fair, the s430 or s500 would've been a more fair comparison, as those have more options that the base s320s

    • @jakobsal2075
      @jakobsal2075 Před rokem

      I agree, I also would’ve preferred the E300td. They inadvertently glorified the Lexus In using an Ultra luxury model for this presentation

  • @aladin9259
    @aladin9259 Před 2 lety

    Very good review thank you

  • @byteme13456874
    @byteme13456874 Před 2 lety +85

    Hard to beat the s class suspension. Also once the facelift hit in 03 and AMG got their hands on it, no large sedan from bmw or lexus from that time could even come close to touching it in terms of performance. Even today a s55 from 03 and up is still an impressive car with the m113k engine.

    • @torbenanschau6641
      @torbenanschau6641 Před 2 lety +4

      The 760 and the S8 could.

    • @byteme13456874
      @byteme13456874 Před 2 lety +17

      @@torbenanschau6641 I dont think the s8 would pose any challenge, 2003 had 360hp…. 2003 760 li is certainly closer at 438, but also 500 lbs heavier. The s55 is at 493hp and 516 torque down LOW at 2100. S55 has crazy long gears too.

    • @procerus3654
      @procerus3654 Před 2 lety +2

      screw these top of the line versions, 320 cdi is just fine for today's roads, both performance and economy wise

    • @mowocsgo998
      @mowocsgo998 Před 2 lety +1

      maybe compare S55 to B7 from Alpina

  • @MurderSTi
    @MurderSTi Před 2 lety +54

    Of all these I'd have the Lexus. We had the previous gen 7 series, which was beautiful, we had that generation LS, and the Latter generation S class growing up. The Lexus wasn't as quick or fun, but it was shockingly quiet and reliable. As a teenager I took many naps in the back seat on roadtrips of a LS430. Side note my daily is a G11 BMW 750 m sport.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Před 2 lety +3

      yeah the Lexus murders the other cars long term aka has solid value.

  • @smothdude
    @smothdude Před 2 lety +5

    I'd be really interested in a similar test where you control the tyres, since I feel like different tyres make a huge impact. Might be why the BMW sucked at braking/launching? Not necessarily changing the alloys, but at least a newer tyre

    • @EdwardM104
      @EdwardM104 Před rokem

      100%, only fair test is new tires (preferably the same tire for each vehicle) and new brakes.

  • @TripSaddie
    @TripSaddie Před 2 lety

    I just bought an 04 Lexus and every problem you described I have/had (currently a project) but not as expensive as you’d think if your doing the work yourself 😅… that starter job is crazy but I have no regrets!

  • @kienfung3045
    @kienfung3045 Před 2 lety +5

    I would go with the Lexus

  • @asianskywalker
    @asianskywalker Před 2 lety +24

    The problem is that you won't really see a Lexus LS for £1000. This one is a £1000 because it's been absolutely hammered. You'll see plenty of s-class and 7-series for this price thanks to poor reliability though.

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 Před 2 lety +6

      that 's exactly what i though, the car must have been beaten to death for it to cost that little for a used V8 lexus

    • @Skyborn-
      @Skyborn- Před 2 lety +3

      Yah, for a car to run another 10 years without major repairs, I think most used car buyers would consider the Lexus the only long term ownership option of the 3.

    • @BrikMT
      @BrikMT Před 2 lety

      Mine was over 3.

  • @insiderepublic8066
    @insiderepublic8066 Před 2 lety +4

    Lexus for me. I own a smaller brother GS and it's fantastic.

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable Před 2 lety

    I really like these older car goof-arounds. You should do more of these.

  • @AMV12S
    @AMV12S Před 2 lety +44

    1:30 Well Mat, compared to modern BMWs with that horrendous grill, this 7 series is kinda cute 😅😅

  • @trenton.tchannel1810
    @trenton.tchannel1810 Před 2 lety +5

    The LS430 is the best and most reliable. Still hold its value the best to. See plenty of S class with failed air suspension and in the US we don’t get diesel S-classes. I’ve seen many 7 series with blue smoke coming out of the exhaust. I’ve never seen a LS430 in bad of shape as the one in this video. Even the ones You find online with 200k miles still are in way better shape than the one in the video

  • @Ma1efcent
    @Ma1efcent Před 4 měsíci

    Had my '04 LS430 for 8 years, - never missed a beat, drives like an absolute dream. Pure luxury for peanut money, - best car I've ever had.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC Před rokem

    I bought a 2002 S500 for £1200 4 years ago and absolutely love it. I service it myself and haven't had any major issues, the only challenge is lifting it with home kit, it's very very heavy and I'd rather not go under it at home.

  • @loveluvfl98
    @loveluvfl98 Před 2 lety +14

    I'll take the Lexus any day,reliability and comfort for me..

  • @gwilko6452
    @gwilko6452 Před 2 lety +21

    Had a Ls430 last year. Excellent vehicle for the weekly golf club run. Bought it 4k and sold it for 5600k a year later. Highly recommended

    • @icedareaper
      @icedareaper Před 2 lety +9

      ain’t no way you sold the car for $5600000

    • @steven5509
      @steven5509 Před 2 lety

      @@icedareaper he probably meant 5600 and because buying overpriced cars because of this current economy is the e new norm

    • @CJacuzzi
      @CJacuzzi Před 2 lety

      Maybe I'm just a cheapskate but $5.6 million for a LS430 seems steep. Nice residuals though

  • @cristiduminica4131
    @cristiduminica4131 Před 2 lety

    That was quite a ride , liked the video , thumbs up

  • @MrPhymed
    @MrPhymed Před rokem +1

    The S class is not as unreliable as people think. I have it for over 7 years now and it runs like a charm. Easy and cheap to self repair. Extremely comfortable and not thirsty at all!
    I’ve also had the LS430 before. I liked a lot but it is no where near the comfort of the S-class, especially when the S class has adaptive cruise control!

  • @thegoodman3810
    @thegoodman3810 Před 2 lety +18

    The Lexus LS takes the cake here

  • @hassamzahid3961
    @hassamzahid3961 Před 2 lety +3

    that V8 in lexus is one of the best V8s ever produced very underrated

  • @albertogaliana9236
    @albertogaliana9236 Před 2 lety

    That Merc S320 CDI is actually on Limp-Home Mode, since EPC failure is shown on the digital display inside the speedometer, which is why barely no output shall be delivered when trying to perform a kickdown :)

  • @HABEL95
    @HABEL95 Před 2 lety

    Great test 👌

  • @saifsultan6299
    @saifsultan6299 Před 2 lety +5

    Lexus LS430 is a legend...best LS ever

  • @nafinafih88
    @nafinafih88 Před 2 lety +44

    The LS is such adorable and valued car in the Emirates, Even people with Range Rover drives LS as Daily Driver

  • @commandertopgun
    @commandertopgun Před 2 lety

    Was awesome, quite entertaining Matt

  • @Abz1324
    @Abz1324 Před 2 lety +1

    Here in the Middle East with the harsher climates, you’ll find loads of 25+ year old Lexus LS430’s on the road driving daily. You will very rarely spot a 25 year old S class or BMW. That says all you need to know about build quality.

  • @UpsideDownFork
    @UpsideDownFork Před 2 lety +48

    Definitely the correct choice Matt. Have run a 2005 S320 CDI for nearly 11 years.
    The facelift ones were a big improvement in many of the areas that you noted, such as infotainment, no rust etc. As a bonus the facelifted diesel got more power and a more responsive auto gearbox.
    Get a long wheelbase with all the options. Treat it well and it will take care of you. A great car for an experienced DIY mechanic. Easy to work on and will save yourself thousands by doing so.

    • @luqmanhaider14
      @luqmanhaider14 Před 2 lety +1

      Correct.w220 if more elegant and comfy compared to other two. If you can do DIYs then its a very good choice easy to work on it.
      CDI is very economical but very fragile also. Low grade diesel ruins this engine very quickly. M112 v6 is good option. Its simple SOHC engine. Not so economical but bulletproof engine.

    • @UpsideDownFork
      @UpsideDownFork Před 2 lety +3

      @@luqmanhaider14 CDI engines - early OM613 and later OM648 are both bullet proof engines when used with the fuel we have in the UK.
      I've seen one go to 700,000 miles without being opened up, just regular oil changes.

    • @fasterbiggerstronger5911
      @fasterbiggerstronger5911 Před rokem

      I bought s320 from 2005 and rust was everywhere so they didn't sort rust problem. Only front mask is aluminium rest is Chinese piece of rusty shit

    • @UpsideDownFork
      @UpsideDownFork Před rokem +1

      @@fasterbiggerstronger5911 nah, that's rubbish. Been dealing in these for years here in the UK. Had 30 or more W220 that we've owned.
      2004 and 2005 cars do not rust here in the UK, unless they've been badly crash repaired.

  • @dragospahontu
    @dragospahontu Před 2 lety +52

    Clearly the Lexus is the best. Maybe when it came out it didn't have the cool tech, but that's a good thing if you're looking to buy a used car.

    • @pequod1
      @pequod1 Před 2 lety +2

      Lexus rot more than the Germans

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 2 lety +19

      @@pequod1 not really no. Definitely not more than the Mercedes-Benz.

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 Před 2 lety +3

      @@pequod1 nothing rots as much as german cars. we’ve got european and American cars in our workshops 24/7 LMFAO

    • @pequod1
      @pequod1 Před 2 lety

      @@zhila5958 Panels rust often due to blocked drains and sound deadening but there is nowhere near the level of chassis rot, German cars are very well rustproofed where it matters.

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 Před 2 lety +1

      @@pequod1 that’s why i ser way more rusted out benz/bimmers than Lexus? you don’t make any sense

  • @hoomanAdnan
    @hoomanAdnan Před 2 lety +4

    Lexus is absolute Legend 🔥

  • @Mexicanfab
    @Mexicanfab Před 2 lety +1

    W220 Sclass is head and shoulders the best. Wish it was the 5L V8 facelift model that was tested, as it wouldn’t have the rust, interior and infotainment is way better, and I obviously would be faster. But still. Great video 👌🏼

  • @gabon4000
    @gabon4000 Před 2 lety +29

    I don't know why people started to like the 7 series of this era. It's still plenty hidious to this very day.

  • @r390gt1lm
    @r390gt1lm Před 2 lety +36

    finally a real life cars that we all can relate to. Do more of these!

  • @ryansrides9714
    @ryansrides9714 Před 2 lety

    Great video

  • @robinjohnhill7556
    @robinjohnhill7556 Před 2 lety +4

    More of these type of videos please, it's good to see comparisons of the older cars for a change.

  • @anomuumit
    @anomuumit Před 2 lety +37

    That Mercedes straight six diesel is economical (for its class) and a potential powerhouse for tuning. Upgrade the turbo, fuelling, software and such and you are looking at over 300 hp with far better fuel economy than the petrol versions.

    • @anderaguinaga2606
      @anderaguinaga2606 Před 2 lety +2

      Better buy the 400cdi, V8 Biturbo 250cv and 500nm

    • @anomuumit
      @anomuumit Před 2 lety +1

      @danturbo316 Power is a function of torque and rpms, so what you are referring as a lot of torque is better phrased as having more power in the lower rpms. But it is indeed correct that usually turbo diesel engines have more torque than the petrol ones.

    • @alfamonk
      @alfamonk Před 2 lety +7

      "Upgrade the turbo, fuelling, software and such" or you could use the money to buy a far better new car!

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 Před 2 lety +3

      you realize the amount of money you would spend bringing the car up to the power level of the competition is times more than what you would spend on fuel on the V8s

    • @Horizon301.
      @Horizon301. Před 2 lety

      Latest 730D is great for economy

  • @TheRageddavid
    @TheRageddavid Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve owned all three of these
    The Lexus is the most reliable by far and everything works inside. The other two look better and probably drive slightly better, but if you’re buying a car if this age and want years and miles of very few issues, get the Lexus

  • @alivarfan4240
    @alivarfan4240 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Do more used car reviews please.

  • @enzoTHEferrari
    @enzoTHEferrari Před 2 lety +4

    The car you see the most is the car to go for.
    I see 10 Lexus 430’s for every W220 S class, and most Mercedes’ I see are on the side of the road. As for the E65, I only see once in a blue moon. Most of them are probably already junked.

    • @patrickamponsah679
      @patrickamponsah679 Před 2 lety

      You surely have no clue about what you are saying.

    • @enzoTHEferrari
      @enzoTHEferrari Před 2 lety +2

      @@patrickamponsah679 You surely have no clue about what I am saying.

  • @juliencedric3633
    @juliencedric3633 Před 2 lety +13

    was a pleasure to watch ♡ very well done :D
    please do more used cars comparisons 🙏

  • @jimmover
    @jimmover Před rokem

    That was a good video review this reviewer is very good

  • @antooz123
    @antooz123 Před 2 lety

    mercedes since already got one. also 320 cdi. Never had any mechanical issues, only had to replace bushings and ball joints.

  • @ConstantinSPurcea
    @ConstantinSPurcea Před 2 lety +161

    Curious how easy it would be to fix the Lexus and get it running reliably vs the others. I own a 2000 LS400 and have put 20k miles on it over the 2 years Ive had it and never had a single issue with the drivetrain. Had a few issues with wheel bearings, brakes, exhaust and some electronics but the car always ran no problem. And even when I had a bad bearing it still ran just fine. Even when I had warped rotors it braked just fine. Some of the bushings went and I had to change them; they were the cause of some vibrations especially when braking.

    • @rpgPalette
      @rpgPalette Před 2 lety +28

      Lexus is cheap to fix and reliable to run, especially drivetrain. Also used toyota/lexus cars depreciate less, so that means that the £1000 LS wasn't taken care of (especially looking at the tape on the mirrors), that means you have to find LS for £2000-£3000 or fix all the issues for the same price and car will run another 5-10 years without problems. If the radiator is leaking after 15 years and 150k miles, it means that if you change it, the new one will run another 15 years.

    • @edgar6051
      @edgar6051 Před 2 lety +12

      @@rpgPalette too bad it looks like a depressed frog/fish

    • @questionableprojects
      @questionableprojects Před 2 lety +2

      The lexus is defiantly an easy and cheap car to work on!! I rallycross a ls400 and gs300 haha. They hold up so damn well. Got a couple vids on my channel if you're curious! Haha have a great day

    • @betterbeavailable
      @betterbeavailable Před 2 lety

      Lexus is overrated junk. Just deal with it.

    • @questionableprojects
      @questionableprojects Před 2 lety +2

      @@betterbeavailable lol yeah ok buddy...

  • @rafigulf
    @rafigulf Před 2 lety +7

    Lexus ls is the best it is a very reliable car.

  • @rpgPalette
    @rpgPalette Před 2 lety +1

    Lexus is cheap to fix and reliable to run, especially drivetrain. Also used toyota/lexus cars depreciate less, so that means that the £1000 LS wasn't taken care of (especially looking at the tape on the mirrors), that means you have to find LS for £2000-£3000 or fix all the issues for the same price and car will run another 5-10 years without problems. If the radiator is leaking after 15 years and 150k miles, it means that if you change it, the new one will run another 15 years.

  • @kriskalpa6346
    @kriskalpa6346 Před rokem

    love these old classic challenges

  • @dragosdinescu2702
    @dragosdinescu2702 Před 2 lety +16

    Do more videos like this, it's very entertaining and it reminds me of the old top gear episodes. Keep it up! 😁

  • @ethanjamesknox411
    @ethanjamesknox411 Před 2 lety +16

    I’ve always wanted to see a video like this! Thanks so much! Love the channel

    • @MotorsByHG
      @MotorsByHG Před 2 lety

      czcams.com/video/rDdkqzJzxww/video.html

  • @suicideghostftp
    @suicideghostftp Před 5 měsíci

    Wood in the interior is dope, not this light one but some dark or grey wood is awesome

  • @7quidstudio
    @7quidstudio Před 2 lety +1

    Please Matt more of these!! Older affordable cars for us norms 😃👍

  • @shirleykueh582
    @shirleykueh582 Před 2 lety +15

    If this was Old Top Gear:
    Clarkson: 7-Series
    Hammond: S-Class
    May: *Definitely* the Lexus

    • @cockshield
      @cockshield Před 2 lety +1

      There was a Top Gear car buying guide mag around 2005, and Hammond's pick was the 7.

  • @jin_2_joy138
    @jin_2_joy138 Před 2 lety +12

    Lexus for reliability

    • @callumcurtis15
      @callumcurtis15 Před 2 lety

      Did you listen to the list of faults ?

    • @ikaika7439
      @ikaika7439 Před 2 lety +3

      @@callumcurtis15 What list of faults?

  • @mohammadayub2760
    @mohammadayub2760 Před 2 lety +5

    I would buy the lexsas all day ❤️❤️❤️

  • @seifr7429
    @seifr7429 Před 2 lety

    Let’s see more of these! 2000 & 5000 would be cool to!

  • @thedarksoul2701
    @thedarksoul2701 Před 2 lety +5

    Lexus is easily the best car out of the three

  • @Ge_n_Ge
    @Ge_n_Ge Před 2 lety +9

    Lexus will still drive till the end of days!

  • @lachlanbrown409
    @lachlanbrown409 Před 2 lety

    BMW fanboy...but in 2022 LS430. I can do my own oil, spark plug and air filter changes. Just leaves wear and tear items which you can economise on if you're savvy. Michelin tyres seem to last a long time if you keep an eye on air pressures. Mobile mechanic.can do brakes.

  • @captainsidewinder
    @captainsidewinder Před 2 lety +1

    I drive a 94 ls400 with 1,100,000 miles on it and drives like it’s brand new every switch still works and drives just as good as my wife’s brand new 9g tronic merc if not better, cost £250 road tax and £250 classic car insurance can’t go wrong