Yeah but those random disease is called shit happens…. Don’t leave your house cuz u could get step in shit ( Cali ) & catch an infection and die, or get in a car accident… this is a TRIBAL subject which further divides the country🇺🇸& world 🌎… cuz governments and people in charge have been so helpful to their citizens… look at Australia 🇦🇺 it’s a police state because of c-vid mandates… & we should just trust these people who make money 💰 off our illnesses…
That last line though... "You're looking for random facts to support the conclusion you've already drawn, rather than drawing a conclusion from the available facts."
It's ironic because that's literally what people who insult the intelligence of those who would prefer not to get the vaccine yet do. They have a pre conceived opinion, and search for information to back it.
@@hf4229 I'm not sure if you're confused as to what "ironic" actually means, or if you are confused on what the difference is between relevant facts and random facts. If an anti-vaxxer claims there's more vaccinated people hospitalized, than unvaccinated, then the context would be relevant in this situation, so when you're referring to a population where 90% are vaxxed, OF COURSE there'd be more vaxxed than not in the hospital, because it's practically the whole population. When an anti-vaxxer claims the vaccine "alters your DNA" then obviously a lesson in what vaccines do or don't do would make sense. And so on. There are well documented facts put forth by the CDC and the FDA, as well AMA and others, and those would be relevant. Citing op-eds, Facebook posts, memes, or things of that nature is not fact checking. If it's "insulting your intelligence" to have actual, relevant facts pointed out, then maybe don't try to discuss something you're intellectually unprepared to discuss. I stay out of quantum physics discussions because I don't know enough about it - for me, personally, it's better to not comment than to start quoting sci-fi authors just because they wrote some fiction on the topic . But to each their own.
@@wtvrhpnd2frddyprnzjr I have a friend whose seen the numbers in Scotland. So basically what happened was before Covid 200 people will visit the hospital and the hospital had 2 doctors 1 worked in the ICU the other worked in regular care. So each would get 100 patients each, in the “pandemic” they decided to admit more people into ICU. So the 200 number doesn’t change, what changes is, the ICU doc gets more patients so to him it looks worse. But the other doc doesn’t have as much work. The fact that hospitals can fire staff during a “pandemic” is telling.
@@jeremiahduran7238 what? I’m not sure if your point is that staff shortage is what’s making the pandemic seem worse than it is. Staff shortage (especially nurses) are definitely contributing to the hospital bed shortages especially during surge periods but if you think that’s the only reason you are terribly mistaken and oversimplifying (in the beginning there were all sorts of issues with supplies, equipment and testing). Regardless even if staffing is the primary problem at this time, the problem remains it is disruptive and strains the healthcare system to the point of where people with other conditions aren’t able to get help…this is especially true around wintertime…
I think it's because people are used to vaccines.... doing.... that. We take a smallpox vaccine when we are little, and we never get smallpox. Like ever. For example, if we take the shot and the booster, we have complete immunity. I've taken the covid vaccine and all the boosters. And I've gotten covid every single year, and it's been bad every single time I've gotten it. I think when you call something a "vaccine," there's a certain expectation that the general public subconsciously has based on their experiences with other vaccines. And i think that, combined with the 2 inarguable facts that the covid vaccine was developed at an astoundingly fast pace, and under the administration of one of the least trustworthy presidents ever (despite president's having nothing to do with vaccine production), is what has led to the massive distrust in this particular vaccine. I'm not saying people shouldn't get vaccinated. I did, after all. But when someone tells me they didn't get the covid vaccine, i understand. And i think the people who automatically characterize people who don't want to take the vaccine as dangerous, stupid, or anti science are being willfully ignorant because they have an agenda.
@@SeedsofEcofrog Remember in 2020 when all the anti-vaxxers blamed 5G for the virus and said Bill Gates was gonna inject us all with ID2020 microchips... I remember...
One of my favorite college professors liked to say "There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics". The numbers don't lie but are used by liars to "prove" their own sliver of truth by manipulating the raw data to suit their needs.
The numbers do lie tho, when I was working in the medical field when covid first started, my nurse friends were telling me that no matter what they labeled a death as a covid death. Because you'd get more government funding the more cases you had. So the numbers do lie in this pandemic and they always have
@@badburrito-ti5wr YE and they were also letting so many nurses and doctors go for some reason. They wanted the heaviest load on the least amount of people so that when all of them got infected it would just be dominoes of people dying. But no, luckily the shadow government isnt as smart as they want to be
Thats total bullshit. You use statistics to show your data in a context. You can have the context right and wrong and this is easily discernable if you have critical thinking skills.
How about the if government stops granting immunity from liability to vaccine manufacturers, big tech stops censoring discussions of side effects and effectiveness, and NIH stops funding gain-of-function research and lying about it? That might help convince some people.
Zero accountability for the manufactures or government for an under tested, adverse reactions cover up, learning more everyday about it drug. Yet adverse reactions are very very uncommon... Yet, I know 4 individuals (my mom included) that have had severe blood clotting issues, and in my mom's case resulted in micro strokes along with lots of swelling (like 4x swelling) from the Pfizer alone. .... If these adverse reactions are that rare why was pfizer never haulted, and why wont they take legal liability? Instead they insist it was "voluntary" while dangling a paycheck or peer / media pressure over your head.
Good point. And if said damage from shrapnel made you an invalid for life, with zero quality of life and independence, wouldn't it be better for you and society to end up KIA? That usually wasn't the case for Arty shells, true. But what if?
@@JinTheAceStar what side effects? a sore shoulder for a couple of days? I'm fully vaccinated with a booster. I have not caught covid despite the fact that 3 coworkers, that I have contact with 5 days a week caught it. All of them are young and said the experience was horrible.
@@prfwrx2497 considering that most of those injuries went from fatal to concussions and cuts, I think the soldiers who wore the helmets were happier for it.
"You said you wouldn't be mean." That's the doctor making a truthful observation, and they said it in a neutral tone. You're just hurt that you are wrong, and someone pointed it out.
@@lonzowright6485 It’s primary school. It’s usually 1st grade (grade 1), thru 5th grade. After that, the grades are usually referred to as ‘middle school, jr high, and high school, in the u.s..
"We don't know how long natural immunity lasts" sounds like a great opportunity for a science experiment! Let those with natural immunity remain unvaccinated to get this data!
We should know how long natural immunity lasts. We should know the precise efficacy of masks and lockdowns. We should have greatly expanded ICU capacity. WTF have the governments of the world been doing for a year and a half? The only large study on antibodies from having the coof ended at 8 months. Media interprets that as the protection from having the coof lasts 8 months. Nope.
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate to learn those you have to put a test group at risk which is unethical. then, you still wouldn't know at what population level those numbers start to change, unless you test on the actual populace. and you want an ICU expansion? most hospitals are overrun with patients as is. don't you think if it was possible to expand, they would have done it long before Covid started putting such a strain on the healthcare system? it's not like hospitals have only just now started to be overcrowded.
At my work we all got the shots and all of us ended up with the new variant of it. I ended up with 102 fever and shook uncontrollably. Some of my co workers were in hospital and off for weeks
Jason, Covid is more common than ever and it's more communicable than ever because we never reached the vaccination rate of smallpox or polio. We've been vaccinating for 200 years now. We've eradicated so many diseases, lets end many more, lets not let any come back!
@@lawrence6651 vaccines get your immune system ready for similar infections. It's like having an SOP ready for disaster situations at work. Some things cannot be prevented entirely, but preparation reduces the total impact. If you would like to know more, look up how M-Cells interact with vaccines to remember the antigens of illnesses and how they can activate early based on if you have had a previous infection or not.
@@lawrence6651 this type of vaccine helps train your immune system to recognize and appropriately react to the Virus infecting it. Specifically, it trains your immune system to recognize the specific antigen in the COVID virus that is partially responsible for being infectious, so any variant that it wouldn't protect against wouldn't be that infectious. But in order to have the vaccine begin working as intended, you'll need to be infected after getting vaccinated and it would drastically reduce your infection time and illness longevity.
I would like to see pro covid vaccine and anti-covid vaccine doctors have a live debate for the public to see and decide if they want to get vaccinated or not.
@@benparkhurst649 So thousands of pharmaceutical companies attempted to develop a covid vaccine and only about 3-6 succeeded - so there was about a 99% chance of getting slapped with multi million dollar lawsuits and a less than 1% chance of receiving a portion of the $50b - and you believe that would be an effective way to remedy a global health crisis that is inhibiting economies all over the world?
I had the omicron variant after I didn’t get my booster and ended up in hospital. I had “super covid” where it lingered after the 2 week period and it actually made my asthma escalate so now I have to have 2 inhalers
Ah, got it. That’s called a preexisting condition. Still doesn’t sound like you need the vaccine boosters if you’re young and healthy, which you are not. I’m young and healthy and got it. Wasn’t even remotely deadly to me.
@@theonelad3028if the companies and Dr fauci were truthful in the beginning we probably would have been fine. But starting off covid by lying to everyone is not a good thing.
@@MT-qt3mk *28 STAB WOUNDS, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HIM A CHANCE, HUH? DID YOU FEEL ANGER? HATE? HE WAS BLEEDING, BEGGING YOU FOR MERCY, BUT YOU STABBED HIM, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!... I KNOW YOU KILLED HIM. WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT? JUST SAY "I KILLED HIM"! IS IT THAT HARD TO SAY?! JUST SAY YOU KILLED HIM! JUST SAY IT!*
Can you do one on rare allergies? I’m actually deathly allergic to Corn and the by-products and derivatives of Corn. And turns out each of the vaccines have corn by-products in them so couldn’t get it because I would die.
Sir it seems like you’re just looking for random facts that support the conclusion you’ve already drawn, rather than drawing a conclusion from the available facts.
@@lethallizard963 why? Why is either of those an option, millions didn't get covid the whole time we didn't have a vaccine and even up till now. And why pay these companies that have a proven track record of selling a harmful product money every 6 months because they claim that will save you and they change their word every other day
@@TheIfh I’m pro vaccine but I’m also pro liberty, flu vaccine is available each year and if people want to get it why not. It shouldn’t be forced tho and the government shouldn’t be paying for it. Edit: and yea it’s really ironic big pharma is suddenly the good guy
@@demoncbr9981 precisely, I haven’t gotten my flu shot in 6 years because I knew I didn’t really need it because I have a good immune system, and we need to normalize COVID the same way we normalized the flu.
My doctor told me he can't recommend the vax because there's so much different information floating around he doesn't know what to recommend. He works for a major hospital system in Texas.
@@fsi1212 well like you said in Texas and they got rid of the restrictions and mandates for covid. They are encouraging people to get the vaccine and not forcing it like every country around the globe.
The funniest part of this skit is the idea that a doctor would even talk to you from more then 2 seconds before scribbling something down and not seeing you for another year.
Very true, recently went to the doctor as a wellness check and took about 15 minutes to tell him about 3 things that were bothering me and he told me for all 3 to go see a specialist while reminding every 5 minutes that he "Can't get to everything" and "I have other people to tend to". That really made me stop wanting to go to primary care doctors all together.
@@goopguy548 why are you calling people making independent choices antivaxxers like they hate science at all avenues. It’s about distrusting the pharmaceutical companies and the intertwined corrupt politicians diddling their hands in trusted or used to be trusted organizations so we it’s like a poisoned pool of what should have been indisputable reliable information but now it’s a world of chaos and paranoia
@@goopguy548 Are you able to support that with any data or is that just a product of weak anecdotal bias? In this climate, even people who believe in the efficacy of vaccines are being called ‘anti vaxxers’ because of their distaste for mandates. First of all, this is not anti-bad whatsoever, and secondly, there is no scientific be all end all for the moral and political discussion surrounding the actual distribution of vaccines. So there are plenty of credible ideas falsely classified as ‘anti vax’ that are immediately disregarded due to the absent minded presuppositions of those who support whatever the maximum enforcement in their country is
I live with an anti-vaxxer and her concerns are related to how quickly the vaccine was developed, it's multiple side-effects, and the matter of personal choice and the extent to which a state should be able to enforce a vaccination. Her husband is a doctor, very highly educated one too, and the experience of living with him has left her disillusioned with our health care system and the industries behind it. It's not just about the vaccine, it's a question of values, state control, and trust in authorities, which is, justifiably, low.
Well what about the rest of the world. We're all vaccinated, there are what 6 vaccines available now?, and our healthcare systems, morals, values, etc. Are different. Does this mean you wouldn't be an anti-vaxxer I'd you moved to France. I would recommend it, great food, socialised healthcare and the weather C'est très magnifique!
@@georgesears2916 If you're implying that only the American government is corrupt and the rest of the world isn't, you're really highlighting your European ignorance. You already did by mentioning socialized healthcare, as if you think America should do that without taking to account that it barely works in smaller, less populated countries, if at all. Why on earth would it work for us? But its ok. Next time you guys surrender in a war, we'll probably come back to bail you out despite your condescending attitudes and rude personalities. Just for you to go back to making fun of us in a few decades or so.
Best anti-vax rebuttal I've seen. And another point about boosters and Hep B: individuals' immune systems react to things differently. I got the three hep B shots on schedule when I was a child, but I didn't retain immunity like you're "supposed to" so I'm currently in the process of getting a round of 3 boosters. I'm healthy, mid-20s, no immune issues. People need to understand that immunology and vaccines are COMPLICATED and there often aren't one-size-fits-all answers.
And as a working RN with no health issues I got very ill from the Hep B series of vaccines. Had to be off work for a year. It was awful for me. So people,e can react differently.
@@joywebster2678 sorry to hear that. Best wishes and I hope you are OK now! A friend who keeps updated about all news concerning hepatitis told me that with the Hepatitis B vaccine side effects are extremely rare. But I guess there never is a 100% safety.
@@maximilianemustermann815 it was quite awful, surprised the doctor, it was like I had a bad flu for a year. I also react to most gram negative antibiotics with hives and rashes. But I can use older type antibiotics. No docs are ever interested enough to investigate my weirdness...we just work around!
@@joywebster2678 I understand. It sucks to be the only zebra among all the horses. I hope you find the zebra doctor and the other zebras one day! All the best!
Kamala Harris literally just said the other day "We are currently in year two of the pandemic" as if this is going to go on longer. She then said it all was an *opportunity.* Huh. An... Opportunity, huh?
What bothers me is all the companies peddling the vaccines have been in trouble multiple times for billions of dollars for rushing bad drugs/cures and treatments, literally Google largest criminal fine in history and it's Pfizer and all the exact companies doing the vaccines are the companies with some of the worst track records in pharmaceutical history
I can see where the guy is coming from, we've been heading to a higher and higher distrust of our government bodies, on either side of the spectrum, often for good reason. I can't entirely blame them. People don't see the scientists at work behind the scenes, all they see is the mismanagement of the pandemic by so many people in power, the inconsistencies, the inability to unite amongst themselves and agree on what they should tell us, more misinformation and meme campaigns than regular updates and transparency. Not only are we not in it together, they're not even in it with us. They're flipping stocks, taking bribes, leaving the country, embezzling, lying to the cameras. Meanwhile the scientists and healthcare workers are buried in work and don't have the same platforms to speak to people.
Exactly, someone I know just reads things that will support his world view, the second I send evidence that is inconvenient for him, he is suddenly too busy.
Oh my god cut thst person off /if you can/. They're just adding unnecessary stress to your life. If it's a relative, put up some boundaries and distance yourself instead.
@@honeyhannijung the hells wrong with you? Just BC someone has a opinion with which you don't agree, doesn't mean you should put up boundaries and distance yourself from them. And if you have stress from everyday interactions go get exposure therapy.
And thanks to the internet, you can find people saying anything and everything. That's why I laugh when someone says "do your research". 100+ hours of Alex Jones videos doesn't make a person well read.
Naaaa doctor would never tell something wrong.. just like the ones in the past that did. give even kids heroin as it was considered „safe“. They get paid a shit ton money for giving the vaccine and many are of them just drones, not doctors.
Bro my sister and brother in law just got COVID and what’s funny is my sis is a nurse I know before the pandemic she was nearing the end of becoming an RN she was in some type of class or program it was a two year long thing or whatever so initially I remember hearing that all healthcare workers HAVE to get the vaccine and idk if it’s because she wasn’t technically working at the time or what but she was like nah I’m gonna wait to get it just to i guess be safe that no craziness happens after it’s been out for awhile…so fast forward to a couple weeks ago I hadn’t heard from her or my bro in law and I talk on the phone with him damn near everyday about sports and just arguing about who’s right and who’s wrong about football or basketball whatever…so I’m trying to get ahold of them and I get nothing after like a week my sister finally sent me a text saying how her and him andddd the baby they just had got COVID and how it’s the most painful thing she’s ever experienced which was strange because my older brother got it too and he just described it as like the flu but a little more harsh whereas my sister said she was literally crying from the pain for like 2-3 days…my brother in law said it was awful for him too that everything he smells is just disgusting and that he tries to eat and immediately gags it up…but he said he’s not in anywhere near as much physical pain as she is. Her and the baby went to the ER because she was in so much pain and obviously the baby well is a baby…they are finally starting to feel a little better although they still are saying they feel awful but I just got a text from my bro in law saying DUDE GO GET THE VACCINE NOW 😂😂😂 so idk man I mean I typically don’t get too involved with these types of discussions but it seems weird to me that people think this is some type of conspiracy to like control your mind or secretly chip you so they know what you’re doing at all times…like they wanna watch you beating your meat at night before you go to bed or something😂😂😂
@@jordancave3089 I really believe it just depends on the type strain or viral load. I got it and all I got was head discomfort and exhaustion. Same thing for my wife.
@@mr.grizzlybear2060 yeah bro I mean it clearly effects everyone different although it’s kind of crazy just how much it can vary like I said my older brother said he basically had the flu and also lost his sense of taste and smell…then my sis and them felt like they were damn near dying
Yes. The only option for the moment is to defend ourselves as best we can if we want to survive (social distancing, masks, vaccination ect.). The vaccine provides a good defence as it allows the T cells in our body to know what the virus is and how to defeat it without having the actual virus. As the virus mutates or the body 'forgets' how to defend we need to vaccinate again. You have the choice to be vaccinated with the code of the virus which is relatively safe or go up against the virus itself and its many mutations in the hope you come out the other side unscathed. Although a pain in the arse, the choice is yours to have boosters or play roulette with the real thing.
@@rekinek510 the only reason the death rate is that low is because of the doctors who work tirelessly to save lives. When the hospitals get full the death rate increases significantly
Unfortunately, the body tends not to hold onto antibodies to other coronaviruses very long, so it’s unlikely that covid antibodies will stick around forever. People will either need boosters or reinfection to keep their immunity up. Hopefully, as more people get vaccinated or infected, the percentage of the population that has some amount of immunity will get high enough that we don’t have huge outbreaks and overwhelmed hospitals anymore.
@@rekinek510 You're probably better off alive to the government slaving away 10 hours a day in a dead end job paying 50 years worth of taxes, consuming taxable goods and taking out taxable loans than you are taking leave work or dead from the 'flu'. You are already under the control of the government, coronavirus doesn't change anything.
“We don’t know what level equals immunity yet.” Exactly. There is simply not enough research done on this, yet the people enforcing mandates are acting as though this utter lack of research and information is unimportant. Bizarro.
We know vaccines work and we know the we need to do something. I’m tired of people acting like this is some hypothetical thought experiment that we asked everyone to weight in on. People are DYING
@@Doc_Schmidt People are literally dying as soon as they are born. People don’t want the vaccine since it’s literally being forced on them to keep their job. My grandmother fought off covid and died 6 weeks after recovering yet the state of CA did everything they could to have her listed as a covid death. I can’t trust it yet. If I have to to keep my job to support my family I will take it. I believe in vaccines but not something the government is doing everything they can to make it mandatory. Masks are pointless and yet here we are almost two years later with idiots like you wearing them in their car…
My hesitancy is just the fact that we don't know long term side effects. When it's been around for a few years with nothing big, then ill get it. When I was 15, I had a nurse try to push me to get the hpv vaccine. Said even nuns get it, its great, everyone should get it to be safe. My mom was there and said no, because it was too new and we didn't know long term side effects, maybe in a few years. The nurse gave my mom a disgusted snear then looked at me and said, "well, you'll be 18 soon and can make your OWN decisions" then looked at my mom with another snear and rolled her eyes as she turned away. Well, 3 years later I turned 18 and went into my yearly exam. Saw that I still hadn't gotten my hpv vaccine and asked if I needed it, but the doc said they weren't offering that shot at this time. Confused, I later went home and looked it up. Come to find out that vaccine the nurse was pushing on me had a lawsuit and discontinuation of it due to injuries and side effects. Since then I have fully adopted my parent 3-5 year rule. A vaccine has to be out for 3-5 years before ill take it. The longer the better.
actually no vaccine has long term side effects, meaning that 2 years later u suddenly cant smell anymore bc of that vaccine or something. Vaccines dont work like thta
Injuries or side effects from what I have researched seem to be far less awful than cervical cancer. I don't know what your doctors were shooting into people but all the lawsuits I can find have not stopped the vaccine for HPV being given on a mass scale. Chances are the company either made a mistake in your certain area which did minor harm in the bigger picture. Let's be honest here, we do not know what any vaccine will do to us 2 to 3 years down the line but that's no reason to avoid them like they will do more harm than good. are we forgetting that getting covid in the first place could have side effects 2 to 3 years down the line as well? Imagine if people did that with the vaccine for polio and smallpox we would still have schools of children dying because people wanted to wait and see
"Fighting communist for the glory of capitalism"... means, information warfare on behalf of Russia... everyone who listens to you is a Putin powered traitor 🇷🇺
Okay... what about all the other vaccines from all the other different companies from around the globe... and you know a company can tell a lie about one product many years ago and still deliver a different product years later that is as described that works well. I've had three Pfizers and I'm fine were as RFK Jr. Has a literal worm in his brain.
Yeah, the patient is explaining why they don’t feel compelled to get the shot, and the doctor isn’t offering compelling facts as to why they should. Doc is operating from a default of “get vaccinated.” The patient is operating from a default of status quo. The question at the start belies this: “so why areN’T you getting vaccinated?” As if this should be the default course of action.
@@KingNyanCat shouldn't it be about health and not politics? Because I vividly remember the left saying NOT to get it when Trump was in office and now they are forcing it down your throat. Why wouldn't you question it after that!?
So I had cancer twice ca. 2018-2019 and I had a bone marrow transplant that wiped out all of my baby vaccines- but covid happened literally right before I was supposed to start my re-vaccination schedule- but it was supposed to be by an infectious disease doctor, and I wasn’t about to head there during covid. I’ve had both my Pfizer’s and I got my booster in august, so I’m relatively safe from covid… but not polio… I finally get to start my re-vaccinations next month 💜
I am gonna root for you. I have some knowledge about Stem Cell therapy’s effect with immunities. What you plan is a great step in restoring those. 💁🏻♀️💭👌✌️
I was adopted from China as a baby. All my vaccines were up to date cording to my records, but it turns out I had no antibodies whatsoever upon testing they did in the US! Got all my vaccines from the first year of life in like, 3 months lol. And I'm a straight-A student, well adjusted, on track to apply to medical school in two years, even with "dozens of jabs" in my life 👍 Glad you get to start building your immunity back 😄
And also the pharmaceutical companies got a blank check and billions and billions and billions of dollars and didn't have to take any responsibility for any negative side effects from the thing they created it's almost like the anti vaxxer actually had a point
But all anti-vaxxers are right wing. Conservatives actively support these industries and these industries support them. You know Anti-vaxxers are a massive boon for the pharmaceutical industry. They redirect and absorb a lot of left wing energy that could be directed towards socialising medicine and making it cheaper while also creating a lucrative market of people who need expensive advanced care when they get ill.
@@Anti.Furry.Warlord The company wasn't giving them out for free. The US government, using your tax dollars, bought the shots. The pharma companies were raking in BILLIONS of our tax dollars off of these shots. Just because you didn't pay at the time of injection does not mean that the the pharma company was giving them away. As a former manufacturing engineer, I can say with 100% confidence that you never trust a for profit company that can not be sued. It is all about the money. If the company has no fear of being sued, they will cut every corner to make more money for themselves at the risk of your lives.
@@mistyridge7028 and don’t you think the government would check to make sure that the vaccines are significantly safer than Covid before they paid? Because they WERE safer. The rate of serious side effects was only 7.64 per 100,000 people.
This! I have tons of disorders/diseases (one of which includes bad reactions to vaccines - I even am “allergic” to sterile needles with nothing on them/in them…) so Covid is a scary reality for me. I probably wouldn’t do well and have been a hermit for 2 years now :/
@@thechosenone2596 Sure. Not like it's just depressing. I wonder what this guy considers a "comorbidity". I'd love to see how many of the population have more than 4.
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice It's not what "this guy" "considers" a "comorbitity" you ninny, it's what the medical community diagnoses as a comorbidity- conditions such as obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and so on...
I like how you omit the most important part of the quote. The study was about vaccinated people. Meaning the vaccine works, as you likely have to be very sick already to die if you're vaccinated, but can much more easily die without any comorbidities if you're unvaccinated
Everyone likes to point out how it's fda approved when the fda has constantly pulled drugs or chemicals etc. From the market because they deemed them too dangerous
4 years ago i was at the high of my pbysical and mental performance. I just won a triathlon for my age group. I just won a womens skateboarding competition, i just recieved high honors in the military and recieved sailor of the quarter. Then i got vaccinated with phizer vax when I was 28 years old. The military said I had to get it and everything would be fine. 2 weeks after vaccine I was throwing up and having random panic attacks and blurry vision. Now I am 31 and in a wheelchair and have severe issues and have to have a care give and can't walk more than 20 ft without having post exertions mylas. I have been seen by the doctors at the va and at standford medical. I do not have an auto immune disease or any of that. They said my body cannot process the vaccine and I have liver damage and damage to my cells in my body because of the vaccine. The doctors do not know how to heal me. They just tell me to rest and hopefully my body will heal on its own. If the covid vaccine can injure a perfectly healthy young adult. I'm sure it injured many more. They needed to do more studys before they released that vax for covid. And vaccines shouldn't be mandatory. It should be free will. Because I didn't get a choice. I am wheelchair bound and homebound I do not have energy to cook or shower on my own.
Yeah, when my doctors ask me why I won't get the shots or boosters, I refer them to the many, many cases like yours. I have two autoimmune disorders, and my immune system tends to go crazy when I get any vaxes. My children are the same way...
like i dont think that you understand how vaccines work on a biological level if you sincerely think that your body reacted more severely to the vax than it wouldve to the actual virus
Totally agree with the Doc here, but fundamentally people can choose to opt out of a medical procedure if they want to, and they don't owe you an explanation.
@@Tootsierollerz13 vaccines keep you safe, but it is still a procedure and it is still your body you shouldn't ever mandate what someone does with their body. It won't stop at vaccines and they'll use the "common good" or "greater good" as an excuse. It's how eugenics was sold in its early days and as a result the bodily autonomy of many people (mostly women) was violated in some of the most horrific ways. Vaccines are good, mandates are bad.
@@Elnegro.. I really don't see how given COVID deaths in my country are way down and have a strong corrolation with the mass vaccination which has been offered freely
@@xander1052 I did write a detailed comment on the matter, but it appears to have been deleted. I'll make it short and sweet. You're wrong, COVID deaths are down everywhere as everyone has immunity to it thanks to getting COVID and surviving it. As for the rest the subreddit thetruthoncovid will answer your question
@@xander1052 it already had a low mortality rate with the virus providing natural immunity stronger for longer compared to the vaccine. And the people who got dropped dead from the blood clots, that's a thing too. And the enlarged ventricles and damaged lining in the heart but that second part was about select companies.
@@abolishgender3240 maybe. Probably doesn’t wane as fast as the shot considering now they’re recommending 2 booster shots months after each dose. Make it make sense.
@@johnhancock1362 The situation with influenza is essentially identical, vivid is just much more aggressive than the flu. Us people with brains don't want to die just because you're afraid of needles. Call your mom to hold your hand of you're so afraid.
I just wish someone could have warned me that the live virus vaccine could activate my dormant celiacs disease. If I’d have known I’d have taken different precautions, but now I’m stuck with a disease that changes my whole life. All because I was threatened my job if I didn’t.
Honestly, in norway atleast, natural immunity is considered safe for 1 year, while the vax is considered safe for a few months only. We also had less people dying from corona than the flu (before we got the vax) so the epidemic is considered over as its not considered deathly. Maybe you should look at why no one seems to die off it in Scandinavia, while its quite deathy in America?
In America, people skew the numbers. I have a classmate in college that works in the ER and when covid was a "new" thing, he said that some people that died of heart attacks, car accidents, cancer, etc . . . were labeled as "covid related deaths" because of the huge pay off Dr's get by labeling their patients as covid deaths.
If these medicines backfire you need a certain percentage of hospital workers and people to not have taken it so the sick can be helped... At this point if it causes cancer in 3 years the whole earth is dead
The dr just moved goalposts and out right lied. Isreal is on its 4th shot, they got boosters. So by his own admission, boosters don't work. Plus we where told herd immunity at 80%, that's obviously not the case.
@@phillylove7290 its not moving a goal post, its called science. science recommendations change based on new evidence and data. that’s why we aren’t still bleeding people with leeches and using the 4 humors to treat sick people
@@ekekekekk yes exactly, thank you. The science now shows its not worth taking, like leaches. The idea of "vax away covid like smallpox" and "pandemic of the unvaccinated" are gone, long gone. Its now statistically less effective then the flu shot. Vitamins, proper diet, and exercise would be more effective.
@@sdkmsdfkmkasdf yes…. They work so well that hundreds of thousands of people get addicted to them (not dependent but addicted) and will give up their families, livelihoods and every thing they hold dear for another pill. Look up how many people die of overdoses vs. covid annually… that’ll show just how great the pain killers work.
@@reencampbell4481 that's bc most people who get addicted didn't take the correct dosage to ween of as mutiple might miss a day and take 2 or feel phantom pain and take pain meds
Here's a great explanation that I've used to convince two of my anti-vax friends who didn't want the shot because of the breakthrough infections: Our vaccines aren't this effective, but let's say we had a hypothetical vaccine that was 99% effective. Now let's say we vaccinate 100 million people. Guess what? 1 million people are still probably going to get sick because 1% of 100 million is 1 million. Now factor in the fact that the US population is over 300 million and the most effective vax, Pfizer, is 95% effective. Odds are, you're going to know at least one person who had a breakthrough infection while fully vaccinated. But is the vaccine ineffective because 1 million people got sick? Or does it work because 99 million people stayed well?
You do know that the Pfizer isnt 95% effective? Its 88% effective, dropping down to 47% within 5 Months (booster shot needed). The "prevented Hospitalization" rate is at 93% with the Pfizer Vaccine. I think you mean that one?
@@JaneDoe-ip5yl you clearly don't care about the unknowns of the long term effects of Covid...which all evidence points to being WAY worse and WAY more likely.
That's gonna create a poor mortality rate .That's same the rate of covid deaths. People are already depressed with the pandemic imagine adding a poor health or a damage due to the vaccine. That'll affect families of the 1%you mentioned. Which will affect their friends, loved ones, etc. On top of all that they got no one to sue? Can this vaccine guarantee covid won't kill you? If vaccine is really as good as advertised everyone would be willing to take. As for vaccinated that should be personal like if you use ARVs It's as if no privacy and your right to choice is invaded and made a public choice
Actually we have no idea how effective the vaccines are because we didn't do anti body test during vaccine process. We simply don't have the data to assess effectiveness.
All four of us at home got covid after we got two shots in, and it was like a bad cold for all of us, but it passed after a week and we were all okay. My grandma would NOT have survived unvaccinated, and my mom and uncle could have easily gotten very sick, but the vaccines helped us all to get only mildly sick and make a full recovery, I am grateful for that, I cannot live without my grandma
Does anyone remember when they said 15 days to flatten the curve? Good times... Edit: wow, I think this is the most likes I've gotten on a youtube post.
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 in many EU countries you now need a green pass to even get a job, you either get vaccinated or pay 50€ a week in tests, so you basically have to get vaccinated to feed your family.
That's because nobody listened to the actual guidelines we needed to follow for 15 days. I imagine it would've ended up being about a month or 2, but so little people actually tried that it didn't work.
@@theskilledsnake nope, if people followed it to the letter soon after the 15 days a new variant would have come out that is more infectious and what do you know we need another 15 days to flatten the curve, then after that another new variant and so on
@@vnolan633 no sarcasm that is a 10/10 amazing point, if we’re worried about people dying why don’t we tackle heart disease and obesity first? But no, this is just so important even though more people die to the flu :/
@@heyitsbrookie-dw5ge maybe because what the fuck are we supposed to do for the obese people? Can’t give them a shot to lose weight, but we can give a shot to get resistance to the flu and covid
@Harold Cleveland You shouldn't mandate what people do with their body. The moment any government takes that liberty, they will never give it back. Just look at the countries who have made temporary powers permanent since the start of the Pandemic.
@@podrumkaleto5042 your rights shouldn't be restricted because the minority population is choosing not to get it for either health reasons or waiting for more evidence that it's 100% safe, that's not wrongdoing, the gov just wants control so reject it.
This question misses a key part. Total immunity is optimal but any antibodies will help in case of future infection. In case of testing, the treated test group is monitored and compared to an untreated group. There are established rates to call something "working" where the test group is less sick than the untreated group. If the test group has some people getting sick while others aren't, they check what levels of antibodies they had before symptoms were discovered. If there is a clear correlation between antibody count and vaccinated people not getting sick, then that is used to determine what level of antibodies is considered "immune."
@@JaharNarishma so "immune" is used more as a blanket term for a more successful recovery/less impactful sickness. 100% is usually impossible to achieve, so the term is used loosely based on its definition. Thanks for the answer :)
I'm not an expert, but public health agencies can track the efficacy of a vaccine by collecting data on the vaccination status of a population and how many people of each status have COVID, were recently hospitalized due to COVID, and/or died from COVID. If they notice that fully-vaccinated + boosted people are the least likely to be hospitalized from COVID and/or dead from COVID, then we know the vaccines we're giving are at least somewhat effective.
It is. We have a high burden of proof. Research comes first. We didn’t just go with the first vaccine trial. There were like 80 of them that didn’t work.
The "medical community" is literally regulated so that information is verified and tested. Its not in any way comparable to an uneducated person googling stuff to make them feel better about killing grandma.
@@caydcrow5161 if you pass Covid to someone because you are being intentionally irresponsible, you ARE killing them. Kind of like how people get charged for criminal negligence when they don't keep building to code. The building killed someone, but it was the person's fault. It absolutely is someone fault if they refuse to take the proper precautions and someone dies as a result. I just wish we could hold them accountable.
Remember: COVID is terrifying and even one death is too many; but if we're talking about the vaccine, we don't care how many people are injured or die, IT'S WORTH THE RISK.
My mother had a stroke after her first Astra Zeneca injection. I was concerned about getting the jab after her stroke and my doctor suggested to get the injection in the bum, as its a bigger muscle and much safer, and i was fine. After my mother got a full heart check she got her second dose and was told to get Pfizer, lucky she was ok.
People ignore the amount of distrust their is for their government. Particularly in america. I would argue many of the anti vaxxers are anti government they just happen to coincide in this case. Edit: if i wrote this again id replace antivaxx with anti mandate.
@@reencampbell4481 the problem isn’t trusting the government. The problem is that people trust the government to do the wrong things instead of the right things. It’s like anti trust lol
99% of anti covid vaxxers arent “anti-vaccine” like the media tries to say. Most people simply have done some research and don’t want to be forced to get an experimental injection.
@@BG-wz1iu and vaxxers can also still get sick like… you dont think antivaxxers know they can still get sick?? Anybody whose sick is gonna be upset like ????
Unvaxxed. Still haven't caught it, Still haven't been to the hospital and I go out and do things lol. All my friends that are once twice thrice jabbed all have caught it multiple times, and that's something consistent across the board that people have spoken about. It's not a coincidence.
$200 for things that didn’t happen. Cute story tho. I’ll let my uncle know that his wife who was antivax and died of Covid that it was all a misunderstanding
Remember when they said it was caused by 5G? Remember when they said it contained an ID2020 microchip. Then they said it rewrote your genes. Then they said it would cause mass deaths. Then we'd all be sterile. Now, pray tell, since none of these happened, why should we believe you now?
I think the most common point is that they want to wait and see what long term effects they may have because many who are anti covid vaccine are vaccinated for other vaccines that have been around for enough time. I myself am vaccinated but see that as totally fair
Exactly. Like I only went to get vaccinated when every single place started asking for qr codes confirming vaccination and I couldn't get lunch at work while sitting in another place. I'm also usually highly reactive, although have never been deemed allergic to vaccines, so I was really nervous. The first shot (Sputnik V, I'm Russian) wasn't really good, while I didn't have a lot of reactions, the red spit on my arm was about 10 centimetres in diameter, hot and inflamed, and wouldn't fade until I started allergy treatment topically. And the fatigue that lasted for a good two weeks... With the second shot 3 weeks after the first one, I started the same ointment immediately and generally felt much better. So I totally get those who are worried.
While I get that point, more than 7billion jabs have been administered and long term effects only show up the days following the vaccination, meaning that if there were a lot of people suffering from long term effects, we‘d definitely know by now.
@@cheCK561000 no. Long term effects literally mean effects that show up months or years after the vaccination or any other medical intervention. You're referring to short-term effects, at least that's how I and a lot of others understand the two terms
@@atriyakoller136 Name a single vaccination or mRNA treatments that has had side effects show up after 6 months that we don't already know about. You won't find any.
The irony is his final statement about confirmation bias applies to himself too. Edit: I didn’t mean to cause a war here. My point is, confirmation bias is you believing something because you already agree to similar things and/or you like the source of the info. This guy may be a doctor, but he can’t tell me what’s in this vaccine and how it works. So he is operating on faith in his industry. Which is absolutely fine, he knows the industry more than me, he works in it, it would be weird if he didn’t. It’s Just hypocritical to call others out who are doing the same thing just because they’re on the other side.
@@jamesharris1280 facts are facts, do you take yours on faith from the Tele or do you look what is being done and said? Reality is way better then fiction if you ask me.
Potentially harming others out of conspiratorial mumbo jumbo seems pretty illogical. I'd agree that it's a personal choice if it didn't affect others, unfortunately it does.
@@mitraaruna clearly you don't know the facts. It only effects the person who has the vaccine, in fact the people with the vaccine are now the super spreaders, same concept as those who have natural immunity.
videos like this didn’t age well i have heart issues now and doctors are being surprisingly open about the likelihood that it was vaccine im 24, a veteran andd was in good health and have no history of heart issues in my family
@@colechristie6046 you have a choice. You are choosing to throw away almost everything for you misinformed pride. No one is arresting you for not getting vaccinated. You're not forced. You're being held accountable. Deal with it.
@@cato1024 people have lost their jobs because they dont want the vaccine and in the UK the government is starting to enforce vaccine passports on us. If we dont have them we cant live the normal life we previously lived. If that's not coercion I dont know what is.
@@IllegalHelios then get the vaccine lol. It's easy and free. No one keeping you from getting it except yourself and being wrong. They're still not forcing you. You are just choosing to lose many aspects of life to be wrong and more at risk of a virus. Not my fault. It's yours.
"Random facts" vs "available facts"? Aren't all facts available, whether you think they're "random" or not? The conclusion he makes at the end can also be said about him. And notice how he didn't address the fact of long term side-effects? Can you guess why?
Bro fr, and honestly why can’t people respect the fact is someone doesn’t want the vaccine, I would never make some stupid tik Tok and why people shouldn’t get it( although there are plenty of reasons) I am respectful and respect a fellow human beings decision, “don’t hate nor discriminate”
The vaccine is probably for people who are old or at great risk. It doesn't really stop transmission. I got the first vaccine dose and I am NEVER getting a booster.
Hes kind of right, a lot of people are scared of taking something new and comparatively unproven and will gravitate towards reasons that support their uncertainty. Tbh you could say the same thing about people willing to try the vaccine because they are afraid of the uncertainty the pandemic brings. Part of "being nice" is understanding people's true reasons for things. We're all human, and we're all trying to cope here.
The people I know who won't get it is because they don't believe it's necessary and they don't want a controversial shot if they don't think they need it so it's more personal opinion
@@IDoABitOfTrollin the people actually going out to get horse paste are morons. But that whole thing was a bunch of bs from the media, doctors absolutely prescribe ivermectin. But the FDA says noooooo so the news spins it as such.
@@IDoABitOfTrollin We give antibiotics to horses and humans both. Is it reasonable or honest to label antibiotics as "horse medication" and discourage people from taking them?
We don't know what level of antibodies dictates protection via natural immunity however this vaccine definitely works because... we can see a specific level of antibodies created by your body... Not to mention the vaccine only protects against the spike protein while natural immunity protects against all 23 proteins..
@@MisterRay11 except we don't know it takes years to find the level of anti bodies bc your protection changes based on health, where you live, blood type, what you eat, social life, even what you wear. Due to how many factors there are it takes years till we even get close enough to guess then it takes a while till we even see if we were right on that guess
Yea but memory cells ( B cells ) that make anti body does last long for sure then a year .. there is studies out there and there are scientists and doctors talking about this
@@unitedfirearms1057 ok please don’t refer to me as an anti vaxxer, I’m just not comfortable with taking it if the nhs don’t take responsibility for side effects
@@user-vx4rq5jv5y that doesn't concern you either? I'd think you'd be anti vax by making your original statement and now hearing that they're protected if ANY side affects come from ANY vaccines
@@user-vx4rq5jv5y It’s not the nhs it’s the manufacturers of the vaccine cuz they don’t wanna pay for it. Understandable that you don’t know the side effects but I argue that we also don’t know the long term effects of COVID and the fact that it’s probably worse to get a live infection either way. It’s really a case of picking cost benefit at this rate. Prolonging vaccination could get you infected with covid and spread it around. For long term effects if it didn’t show up now, the likelihood of it showing up later won’t happen (it’s been a year already). As with all medicines there will be a chance with horrible side effects.
I'm vaccinated, but there were a couple of points that you said that are illogical. First the booster, so far the studies that show waning effectiveness have only looked at antibodies, and infection rates which don't really matter if it still prevents hospitalizations and death. Also we've already had two shots and a third within 6 months is unprecedented in vaccinations. Second multiple studies have shown natural immunity to be more durable than the vaccines so that excuse is pretty valid.
Don't try to argue with vaxxers. They're the literal strawman of the antivaxxer, just the other way around. Also don't argue with antivaxxers. Same reason. Don't argue. Nobody changes their mind if they've already made it. Waste of breathe. But as someone who is not vaxxed to 'rona i finally understand atheists and what they might feel like if they are in religious environment.
@@TheGreatWasian_ regardless of what your opinions are I absolutely hate anyone who asks for sources. It’s dishonest. If you actually cared you would look for them yourself until you found it or you were confident enough that it doesn’t exist. You aren’t paying anyone to research for you. They aren’t making money of their post. It’s just a fact that an argument isn’t right or wrong with/without including a source.
I missed the entire spring term of grade eight because of post covid. A year later and every single joint hurts, I can't hold my head up for multiple hours because my neck is to tired and I need multiple adaptations in school to be have enough energy to keep up with my class. I still don't have an official diagnosis because I mainly have mental problems and they don't know how my brain works. It will likely take years to get it properly checked out since no one has time for me.
This is hilarious and true. That was so the mood and theme of my gen. Millennials lol. And now theyre all afraid of their own shadow cuz it may have covid 😑
My favorite was while working in hospital, some of the doctors very strongly pushed pregnant nurses to get the vaccine after it had only been out for a few months. No shade doc, but there's always the bottom 10%. Ultimately I think the vaccines were mostly good (except for the JJ vaccine.) But at the time there was relatively little time to determine long effects for the populus at large. Vaccines should have been encouraged, but not forced.
I agree with this for the most part, I think there were a few factors in this specific case though. Mrna vaccines have been around before covid, so the method has been tested even if the specific vaccine for covid hadn't been created or tested long term (they did do short term before releasing it). There's also what I think may be the main factor in why there were mandates early on, and that was the death rates. So many people were dying and at such a worrying rate. And we knew early on that it was at least making a dent in deaths even if it didn't stop people from getting covid completely as well as we all hoped. The millions dying world-wide was horrific. I remember looking at the numbers that kept going up every day and just crying because of the state of the world at that time. So many dead. It felt like any possible side effects had to be worth it just from the numbers. Luckily major side effects are super rate and are mostly in very specific situations but at the time without knowing that, I felt it was something we needed to do to save everyone.
If it works then why does it need to be promoted in every media and political campaign as well as these videos always being made? Why cant people make their own life choices without being called stupid for it? When did things go from "thats your personal choice" to the modern toxicity of covid?
Because people believe bullshit very easily that's why they need to be reassured earlier Britain vaccination rate was 93 percent and then one guy came and said without any proof that Vaccine causes autism and suddenly after that vaccination fell to 73 and it has not recovered since then
Because when your personal choices reach out and touch others, you aren't just making them for yourself. The nature of viruses and how they spread means all of society needs to collectively work together to effectively combat them. I'd suggest looking up the history of small pox and polio, two viruses that were at one time commonplace. If society back then was as vaccine hesitant as today's is we would still have iron lungs everywhere. To clarify, this isn't like deciding on whether or not to wear a safety belt. Something also enforced by law. It's more like choosing to smoke in a non smoking area and thinking it's acceptable behavior. But worse, because instead of just mostly stinking up the air, you are being a vector for a harmful disease.
I got a lot of uncertainty from both sides of that. I'm in the same boat. I had COVID in may and it really wasn't bad and nobody can tell me if I'm good. Besides the pressure to get it, I don't think I need it so that's what I went with. So far, no pressure from work and I live in a state that doesn't really have any mandates.
That's what I got too. He's just using his medical background to throw around his uncertainty as fact and he ironically addressed the way he's doing isn't working and continues to do it anyway
@@chrismarthaller1032 but this is why variants exist bc people are allowing the virus to mutate. If everyone was vaccinated, the variant would have never exist in the first place and covid would be gone. What's the problem with getting the vaccine? don't you rather want a virus to disappear?
@@Hibarif123 lolololol I'm sorry I don't know where you heard that but do you understand that when the virus passes from person to person it mutates? It's a virus, that's the nature of viruses. Getting the vaccine DOES NOT STOP TRANSMISSION. Go actually read the CDC website. The vaccine protects YOU and decreases YOUR chances of SEVERE AFFECTS. It's not to stop you from getting COVID or giving it to anyone else vaxxed or unvaxxed. If you go around without a mask, congregating with people you can and will catch it, in some cases with vaccinated people 2-3 times. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but COVID is a coronavirus, the most common coronavirus we deal with is called the common cold. COVID is the same class as the common cold but deadlier. As yourself how many times you've had the cold. Every few month it has changed and you can get reinfected. COVID isn't going anywhere. Vaccinated people are logically more dangerous than unvaccinated, they're less likely to show symptoms while carrying it and aren't required to wear masks. I can do this all day, I'm a safety professional and the CDC trained me in infectious disease control and prevention before COVID and I can tell you half the crap you've heard on the news goes against their own training. You're trusting the word of the same people who told you wear disposable surgical masks for an airborne respiratory virus in the same sentence they said hospitals needed respirator masks but banned selling them. It's time to wake up now.
So I have all of my vaccines, my child has all his vaccines. I agree with proven vaccines, not untested ones. Nowadays this makes me an anti-vaxxer lol All because of one vaccine. People would feel better if the government wasn’t forcing it.
The vaccine isn’t untested, mRNA isn’t untested. There are academic and scientific papers and statistics that prove this. The only thing you need to do is research, do so with the same seriousness you would if you had to write an essay for college.
@@TeShady bro you are the test 🤦♂️. The long term side effects will be on you. Hopefully for y’all’s sake the vax doesn’t cause cancer in like 10 years or something but we don’t know at this time what the side effects could even be. Not to mention the media keeps covering up any actual side effects that the jab causes
@@Vox_Popul1 there has never been a successful mRNA therapy before. Yes they've TRIED to develop these in the past but they've all failed-most ended up killing the test subjects or making them MORE susceptible to disease. Hopefully that isn't what's happening here but if the rate of "breakthrough" infections is any indication....
No. We are saying the patient should use the highly tested vaccine to increase his resistance to the disease, lower the odds of permanent damage to his body, and reduce the time he spends transferring the disease.
It’s literally no different from any other vaccine in that regard, in that it was well-tested beforehand, but those findings are always subject to change.
Im honestly not worried about how effective it is, im more worried about the long term side effects. Im just hoping its not like the cutter polio vaccine.
@@djordjetosic4553 - Exactly. The long term effects of COVID were already known before any vaccine hit the market, but the anti-vaxxers completely ignore them in their rants against vaccines. The only thing they talk about with COVID are the deaths despite the COVID illnesses and challenges in recovery from COVID being far more substantial.
@@AllThroughALife Lol, i had covid and lost my smell for life. Yet I ain't getting vaccinated yet, I don't trust those scummy pharma ceo's. They have done so many scandals, why not add one on there. Ineffective vaccines just so they can sell boosters maybe? Paying of politicians so they can get billions on billions in tax money? They created the opioid pandemic killing 200k people, and now there are forcing certain anti depressants to do exactly the same. Stop trusting the pharma industry as long as there is capitalism in there... They want money, not make you healthy!
I wanna see this guy make
"Bad news you have a rare disease"
"How rare?"
"You get to name it."
Daaaaaamn... That shit is deep.
Bro that’s a rip
Its sad to think thats real like the hopkins disease
Yeah but those random disease is called shit happens…. Don’t leave your house cuz u could get step in shit ( Cali ) & catch an infection and die, or get in a car accident… this is a TRIBAL subject which further divides the country🇺🇸& world 🌎… cuz governments and people in charge have been so helpful to their citizens… look at Australia 🇦🇺 it’s a police state because of c-vid mandates… & we should just trust these people who make money 💰 off our illnesses…
@@vlonebandit3359 welp, there they go
That last line though... "You're looking for random facts to support the conclusion you've already drawn, rather than drawing a conclusion from the available facts."
**gestures at the world in general wildly**
Right? Lol now that you typed it out I think I'm going to copy that to my phone's clipboard 😂 It's perfect
@@dynamicworlds1 *me looking at that one dude flailing his limbs wildly in frustration*
It's ironic because that's literally what people who insult the intelligence of those who would prefer not to get the vaccine yet do. They have a pre conceived opinion, and search for information to back it.
@@hf4229 I'm not sure if you're confused as to what "ironic" actually means, or if you are confused on what the difference is between relevant facts and random facts.
If an anti-vaxxer claims there's more vaccinated people hospitalized, than unvaccinated, then the context would be relevant in this situation, so when you're referring to a population where 90% are vaxxed, OF COURSE there'd be more vaxxed than not in the hospital, because it's practically the whole population.
When an anti-vaxxer claims the vaccine "alters your DNA" then obviously a lesson in what vaccines do or don't do would make sense. And so on.
There are well documented facts put forth by the CDC and the FDA, as well AMA and others, and those would be relevant. Citing op-eds, Facebook posts, memes, or things of that nature is not fact checking.
If it's "insulting your intelligence" to have actual, relevant facts pointed out, then maybe don't try to discuss something you're intellectually unprepared to discuss. I stay out of quantum physics discussions because I don't know enough about it - for me, personally, it's better to not comment than to start quoting sci-fi authors just because they wrote some fiction on the topic . But to each their own.
I'll be honest, if no one told me Covid exists, I would never even know I was in a pandemic.
Look at the Amish, the different between them and the rest of the population is not having as much government intervention through corporate media.
Unless you go to any place requiring or talking about masks.
Obviously you haven’t been in a hospital in the last 2 years
@@wtvrhpnd2frddyprnzjr I have a friend whose seen the numbers in Scotland. So basically what happened was before Covid 200 people will visit the hospital and the hospital had 2 doctors 1 worked in the ICU the other worked in regular care. So each would get 100 patients each, in the “pandemic” they decided to admit more people into ICU. So the 200 number doesn’t change, what changes is, the ICU doc gets more patients so to him it looks worse. But the other doc doesn’t have as much work. The fact that hospitals can fire staff during a “pandemic” is telling.
@@jeremiahduran7238 what? I’m not sure if your point is that staff shortage is what’s making the pandemic seem worse than it is. Staff shortage (especially nurses) are definitely contributing to the hospital bed shortages especially during surge periods but if you think that’s the only reason you are terribly mistaken and oversimplifying (in the beginning there were all sorts of issues with supplies, equipment and testing). Regardless even if staffing is the primary problem at this time, the problem remains it is disruptive and strains the healthcare system to the point of where people with other conditions aren’t able to get help…this is especially true around wintertime…
never understood "well it doesn't fix it 100% so why bother?" because it makes it significantly better???
Except it didn't.
I think it's because people are used to vaccines.... doing.... that.
We take a smallpox vaccine when we are little, and we never get smallpox. Like ever. For example, if we take the shot and the booster, we have complete immunity.
I've taken the covid vaccine and all the boosters. And I've gotten covid every single year, and it's been bad every single time I've gotten it.
I think when you call something a "vaccine," there's a certain expectation that the general public subconsciously has based on their experiences with other vaccines. And i think that, combined with the 2 inarguable facts that the covid vaccine was developed at an astoundingly fast pace, and under the administration of one of the least trustworthy presidents ever (despite president's having nothing to do with vaccine production), is what has led to the massive distrust in this particular vaccine.
I'm not saying people shouldn't get vaccinated. I did, after all. But when someone tells me they didn't get the covid vaccine, i understand.
And i think the people who automatically characterize people who don't want to take the vaccine as dangerous, stupid, or anti science are being willfully ignorant because they have an agenda.
@@SeedsofEcofrog Remember in 2020 when all the anti-vaxxers blamed 5G for the virus and said Bill Gates was gonna inject us all with ID2020 microchips... I remember...
@@SeedsofEcofrog cry about it
because the original marketing said it was 100% effective. they were just pointing out that the people owning the boots you lick are liars.
One of my favorite college professors liked to say "There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics". The numbers don't lie but are used by liars to "prove" their own sliver of truth by manipulating the raw data to suit their needs.
The numbers do lie tho, when I was working in the medical field when covid first started, my nurse friends were telling me that no matter what they labeled a death as a covid death. Because you'd get more government funding the more cases you had. So the numbers do lie in this pandemic and they always have
@@kingkobe4205 have a nurse friend that quit because of that.
@@badburrito-ti5wr YE and they were also letting so many nurses and doctors go for some reason. They wanted the heaviest load on the least amount of people so that when all of them got infected it would just be dominoes of people dying. But no, luckily the shadow government isnt as smart as they want to be
Yes like 50% of woman like cheese. They never say just how many women they asked! So easy to make things sound good.
Thats total bullshit. You use statistics to show your data in a context. You can have the context right and wrong and this is easily discernable if you have critical thinking skills.
How about the if government stops granting immunity from liability to vaccine manufacturers, big tech stops censoring discussions of side effects and effectiveness, and NIH stops funding gain-of-function research and lying about it? That might help convince some people.
Who would have ever thought not one comment rebutting this..... Thank you sir.
You know the cold hard truth it won’t
They aren’t ready for this conversation
Zero accountability for the manufactures or government for an under tested, adverse reactions cover up, learning more everyday about it drug. Yet adverse reactions are very very uncommon... Yet, I know 4 individuals (my mom included) that have had severe blood clotting issues, and in my mom's case resulted in micro strokes along with lots of swelling (like 4x swelling) from the Pfizer alone. .... If these adverse reactions are that rare why was pfizer never haulted, and why wont they take legal liability? Instead they insist it was "voluntary" while dangling a paycheck or peer / media pressure over your head.
@@CasualtyCam ready for the conversation. See my post above captain smart guy
It sort of reminds me of the WW1 helmet argument, when the damage count skyrocketed (it was because they got damaged rather than dying)
Kindof a good argument. Needs to be applied to adverse reactions debate as well
Good point. And if said damage from shrapnel made you an invalid for life, with zero quality of life and independence, wouldn't it be better for you and society to end up KIA?
That usually wasn't the case for Arty shells, true. But what if?
I dunno dude I take the 0.000003% over the almost guaranteed side effects
@@JinTheAceStar what side effects? a sore shoulder for a couple of days? I'm fully vaccinated with a booster. I have not caught covid despite the fact that 3 coworkers, that I have contact with 5 days a week caught it. All of them are young and said the experience was horrible.
@@prfwrx2497 considering that most of those injuries went from fatal to concussions and cuts, I think the soldiers who wore the helmets were happier for it.
"You said you wouldn't be mean."
That's the doctor making a truthful observation, and they said it in a neutral tone. You're just hurt that you are wrong, and someone pointed it out.
You typed this as if this wasn't a single gut doing a skit in a wig lmao
@@mayohyundai1152 you typed that as if people don't actually what the first guy said
@@mayohyundai1152 you can't even spell 'guy' because you suck/and/or are a foreign actor sponsoring anti-vaccine misinformation
"You're not a mathematician!" "True, but I went to grade school."
You said you wouldn't be mean...
@serena That was a "drop the mike" moment
WTF is grade school????
To be fair I dont think they teach basic bayesian stats in america
@@lonzowright6485 It’s primary school. It’s usually 1st grade (grade 1), thru 5th grade. After that, the grades are usually referred to as ‘middle school, jr high, and high school, in the u.s..
Dunno why but on the last “You said you wouldn’t be mean…” I died
that was your booster
@@flyerjohn702 dumbo
And so did the antivaxxer
😅😅😅😅
Nice profile pic bro 😂
"We don't know how long natural immunity lasts" sounds like a great opportunity for a science experiment! Let those with natural immunity remain unvaccinated to get this data!
We should know how long natural immunity lasts. We should know the precise efficacy of masks and lockdowns. We should have greatly expanded ICU capacity. WTF have the governments of the world been doing for a year and a half?
The only large study on antibodies from having the coof ended at 8 months. Media interprets that as the protection from having the coof lasts 8 months. Nope.
Exactly what I plan to do
@@SusanBaileyAmazingEstate to learn those you have to put a test group at risk which is unethical. then, you still wouldn't know at what population level those numbers start to change, unless you test on the actual populace.
and you want an ICU expansion? most hospitals are overrun with patients as is. don't you think if it was possible to expand, they would have done it long before Covid started putting such a strain on the healthcare system? it's not like hospitals have only just now started to be overcrowded.
@Xavier V great! how much exposure have you had?
@@rickya9206 would they really be at risk if they have natural immunity?
At my work we all got the shots and all of us ended up with the new variant of it. I ended up with 102 fever and shook uncontrollably. Some of my co workers were in hospital and off for weeks
Jason, Covid is more common than ever and it's more communicable than ever because we never reached the vaccination rate of smallpox or polio. We've been vaccinating for 200 years now. We've eradicated so many diseases, lets end many more, lets not let any come back!
Now imagine how much worse y'all would be without the shot to prepare your immune system
@@SnailOfLore he said they got the different variant. Plus that's not how they work they are suppose to either stop the virus or do nothing
@@lawrence6651 vaccines get your immune system ready for similar infections. It's like having an SOP ready for disaster situations at work. Some things cannot be prevented entirely, but preparation reduces the total impact.
If you would like to know more, look up how M-Cells interact with vaccines to remember the antigens of illnesses and how they can activate early based on if you have had a previous infection or not.
@@lawrence6651 this type of vaccine helps train your immune system to recognize and appropriately react to the Virus infecting it. Specifically, it trains your immune system to recognize the specific antigen in the COVID virus that is partially responsible for being infectious, so any variant that it wouldn't protect against wouldn't be that infectious. But in order to have the vaccine begin working as intended, you'll need to be infected after getting vaccinated and it would drastically reduce your infection time and illness longevity.
I would like to see pro covid vaccine and anti-covid vaccine doctors have a live debate for the public to see and decide if they want to get vaccinated or not.
People who watch would have already decided before the debate even starts
I want to see that to. The drama these days are boring since the tati and james drama💀
Fake doctors would just lie like daddy trump does and the crowd will go wild
The closest we got to that was Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta.
"Anti-covid vaccine" doctors.
So far there are only nurses that openly refuses the vaccine.
That i know of.
Actually, a bunch of fake doctor do
If you can’t test antibodies because you can’t tell how many are enough, then how you know when a booster is required ?
The moment a majority fall sick again, another booster is considered
Easy dude, I know for a fact he don’t want no smoke
Mind blown
Hi I’m with the thought police and what you’re doing is not allowed
@@munchez4410 lol
Don’t forget that the companies creating the vaccines are completely immune from lawsuits .
Exactly
AND, they want the facts about the Vaccine to be sealed from the FOIA (Freesom Of Information Act) for 55 years! Why??
What incentive would they have to develop an urgent drug if they could be liable for harm committed during trials?
@@stews2168 Something like $50,000,000,000 in the last year. I'll give people a placebo for that price.
@@benparkhurst649 So thousands of pharmaceutical companies attempted to develop a covid vaccine and only about 3-6 succeeded - so there was about a 99% chance of getting slapped with multi million dollar lawsuits and a less than 1% chance of receiving a portion of the $50b - and you believe that would be an effective way to remedy a global health crisis that is inhibiting economies all over the world?
I had the omicron variant after I didn’t get my booster and ended up in hospital. I had “super covid” where it lingered after the 2 week period and it actually made my asthma escalate so now I have to have 2 inhalers
its always tough because it shouldnt take getting sick to recognize that vaccines and boosters are important.
Ah, got it. That’s called a preexisting condition. Still doesn’t sound like you need the vaccine boosters if you’re young and healthy, which you are not.
I’m young and healthy and got it. Wasn’t even remotely deadly to me.
@@theonelad3028 I was wanting to get my booster but only medical personnel and those 60+ could get it when my vaccine immunity expired
@@theonelad3028if the companies and Dr fauci were truthful in the beginning we probably would have been fine. But starting off covid by lying to everyone is not a good thing.
So sorry.
Until they drop a battle pass for Covid, I’m not dealing with this seasonal new variant BS. Worst game of Plague inc ever
Ulrich Stern?
Lmao this is a simulation you need to wake up
@@borednotanymore1147 how? Explain with facts and sources and real life proof until you do that ill wait.
@@Z11004 not only is this a simulation, but also jokes are a conspiracy they don't exist.
@@InDstructR good troll and joke bro 🤣
I'm very surprised, CZcams has definitely shown me that more people own wigs than I thought.
Lmaoo so true!!!
@Allen Jones LMAO stay mad
Sweden bans the booster shot
@@vlonebandit3359 Sweden is top tier
Lol 1 to 5 percent you getting admitted to hospital ....also like the "sometimes" natural antibodies fade ...
Man: Well my chance of dying is like 0.0003%
Dr: I wouldnt be sure about that. *pulls out gun*
_You might be able to survive covid but can you survive 38 bullet wounds?_
@@HisuTyphlosion420 *_28 stab wounds_*
@@MT-qt3mk *You don't know how happy I am that you caught the reference*
Why did this make me laugh so much lmao
@@MT-qt3mk *28 STAB WOUNDS, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE HIM A CHANCE, HUH? DID YOU FEEL ANGER? HATE? HE WAS BLEEDING, BEGGING YOU FOR MERCY, BUT YOU STABBED HIM, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!... I KNOW YOU KILLED HIM. WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT? JUST SAY "I KILLED HIM"! IS IT THAT HARD TO SAY?! JUST SAY YOU KILLED HIM! JUST SAY IT!*
Can you do one on rare allergies? I’m actually deathly allergic to Corn and the by-products and derivatives of Corn. And turns out each of the vaccines have corn by-products in them so couldn’t get it because I would die.
Tell your doctor about it and see if there is alternatives. Stay safe … please stay safe.
That's a first. Idk how you have genes that just say "no" to corn. Shits wild
Corn I’ve never heard of that one before I’m sorry man that must suck
People wont talk about that, I still cannot find a reliable vaccine ingredient list.
I’m not deathly allergic, but I’m also allergic to corn, as well as eggs. And gluten and peanuts lol.
Sir it seems like you’re just looking for random facts that support the conclusion you’ve already drawn, rather than drawing a conclusion from the available facts.
Are you talking about the new Pfizer drug?
You said you wouldn’t be mean 🥺🥺
thanks for quoting the video we all just saw
You said you wouldn't be mean...
I agree, the doctor in this video does seem to be doing that
"We don't know how long natural immunity lasts"
*gets a jab every 6 months*
Would you rather get a jab every 6 months to keep immunity or get covid every 6 months to do the same?
@@lethallizard963 that’s not how that works
@@lethallizard963 why? Why is either of those an option, millions didn't get covid the whole time we didn't have a vaccine and even up till now. And why pay these companies that have a proven track record of selling a harmful product money every 6 months because they claim that will save you and they change their word every other day
@@TheIfh I’m pro vaccine but I’m also pro liberty, flu vaccine is available each year and if people want to get it why not. It shouldn’t be forced tho and the government shouldn’t be paying for it.
Edit: and yea it’s really ironic big pharma is suddenly the good guy
@@demoncbr9981 precisely, I haven’t gotten my flu shot in 6 years because I knew I didn’t really need it because I have a good immune system, and we need to normalize COVID the same way we normalized the flu.
And the more time that goes by, the more validity we see in every one of those objections.
My doctor told me he can't recommend the vax because there's so much different information floating around he doesn't know what to recommend. He works for a major hospital system in Texas.
Texas.
@@Hannah-zw9ow major hospital system that required vaccines for employees. Try again.
Texas.
Texas holdem.
@@fsi1212 well like you said in Texas and they got rid of the restrictions and mandates for covid. They are encouraging people to get the vaccine and not forcing it like every country around the globe.
The funniest part of this skit is the idea that a doctor would even talk to you from more then 2 seconds before scribbling something down and not seeing you for another year.
No bull shit. U gotta see a doctor to tell you you gotta see a doctor and they're charging 200 for it. Shits fucked
And charging you $80-150 for just talking to you for 5 min
Very true, recently went to the doctor as a wellness check and took about 15 minutes to tell him about 3 things that were bothering me and he told me for all 3 to go see a specialist while reminding every 5 minutes that he "Can't get to everything" and "I have other people to tend to". That really made me stop wanting to go to primary care doctors all together.
This actually happened to me. My doctor judged me and basically belittled me for not having been vaccinated
@@McGuirkEats yikes sorry to hear bro, sounds rough. hopefully there's still good doctors out there
The irony when the doctors last statement applies to both parties.
It's more often antivaxxers that's spote random facts, while the others just counter there random points
@@goopguy548 i’d rather have questions with no answers than have answers that can't be questioned.
@@goopguy548 why are you calling people making independent choices antivaxxers like they hate science at all avenues. It’s about distrusting the pharmaceutical companies and the intertwined corrupt politicians diddling their hands in trusted or used to be trusted organizations so we it’s like a poisoned pool of what should have been indisputable reliable information but now it’s a world of chaos and paranoia
@@goopguy548 you literally proved him right lmao 🤣
@@goopguy548 Are you able to support that with any data or is that just a product of weak anecdotal bias?
In this climate, even people who believe in the efficacy of vaccines are being called ‘anti vaxxers’ because of their distaste for mandates. First of all, this is not anti-bad whatsoever, and secondly, there is no scientific be all end all for the moral and political discussion surrounding the actual distribution of vaccines. So there are plenty of credible ideas falsely classified as ‘anti vax’ that are immediately disregarded due to the absent minded presuppositions of those who support whatever the maximum enforcement in their country is
I live with an anti-vaxxer and her concerns are related to how quickly the vaccine was developed, it's multiple side-effects, and the matter of personal choice and the extent to which a state should be able to enforce a vaccination. Her husband is a doctor, very highly educated one too, and the experience of living with him has left her disillusioned with our health care system and the industries behind it.
It's not just about the vaccine, it's a question of values, state control, and trust in authorities, which is, justifiably, low.
Well what about the rest of the world. We're all vaccinated, there are what 6 vaccines available now?, and our healthcare systems, morals, values, etc. Are different. Does this mean you wouldn't be an anti-vaxxer I'd you moved to France. I would recommend it, great food, socialised healthcare and the weather C'est très magnifique!
@@georgesears2916 If you're implying that only the American government is corrupt and the rest of the world isn't, you're really highlighting your European ignorance. You already did by mentioning socialized healthcare, as if you think America should do that without taking to account that it barely works in smaller, less populated countries, if at all. Why on earth would it work for us?
But its ok. Next time you guys surrender in a war, we'll probably come back to bail you out despite your condescending attitudes and rude personalities. Just for you to go back to making fun of us in a few decades or so.
It's almost the American medical system is F'ed? (capitalist medicine industry as well)
Best anti-vax rebuttal I've seen. And another point about boosters and Hep B: individuals' immune systems react to things differently. I got the three hep B shots on schedule when I was a child, but I didn't retain immunity like you're "supposed to" so I'm currently in the process of getting a round of 3 boosters. I'm healthy, mid-20s, no immune issues. People need to understand that immunology and vaccines are COMPLICATED and there often aren't one-size-fits-all answers.
And as a working RN with no health issues I got very ill from the Hep B series of vaccines. Had to be off work for a year. It was awful for me. So people,e can react differently.
It's pretty weak.
@@joywebster2678 sorry to hear that. Best wishes and I hope you are OK now! A friend who keeps updated about all news concerning hepatitis told me that with the Hepatitis B vaccine side effects are extremely rare. But I guess there never is a 100% safety.
@@maximilianemustermann815 it was quite awful, surprised the doctor, it was like I had a bad flu for a year. I also react to most gram negative antibiotics with hives and rashes. But I can use older type antibiotics. No docs are ever interested enough to investigate my weirdness...we just work around!
@@joywebster2678 I understand. It sucks to be the only zebra among all the horses. I hope you find the zebra doctor and the other zebras one day! All the best!
Someone should write a book entitled.
"Covid"
The Never Ending Story
Kamala Harris literally just said the other day "We are currently in year two of the pandemic" as if this is going to go on longer.
She then said it all was an *opportunity.* Huh. An... Opportunity, huh?
Yeah I havent heard much about the flu or regular colds lately...
@@jacobblanton5179 my dog can speak better than kamala Harris tbh
@@yourmominator same with mine. Even though he's dead. 😳
@@_M_-_H_ can he speak like zero from the nightmare before Christmas
The problem with being overeducated is you have a hard time admiting "we don't know yet" ... there's a reason FDA trials are normally so long.
See if they were to come out and say they genuinely didn’t know and would let it be optional maybe I might consider but instead they incite violence
What bothers me is all the companies peddling the vaccines have been in trouble multiple times for billions of dollars for rushing bad drugs/cures and treatments, literally Google largest criminal fine in history and it's Pfizer and all the exact companies doing the vaccines are the companies with some of the worst track records in pharmaceutical history
@@roagegreow7671 and you won't be able to take legal action if you have any adverse side affects
@@roagegreow7671 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Exactly 👍
I can see where the guy is coming from, we've been heading to a higher and higher distrust of our government bodies, on either side of the spectrum, often for good reason. I can't entirely blame them. People don't see the scientists at work behind the scenes, all they see is the mismanagement of the pandemic by so many people in power, the inconsistencies, the inability to unite amongst themselves and agree on what they should tell us, more misinformation and meme campaigns than regular updates and transparency. Not only are we not in it together, they're not even in it with us. They're flipping stocks, taking bribes, leaving the country, embezzling, lying to the cameras. Meanwhile the scientists and healthcare workers are buried in work and don't have the same platforms to speak to people.
Exactly, someone I know just reads things that will support his world view, the second I send evidence that is inconvenient for him, he is suddenly too busy.
Oh my god cut thst person off /if you can/. They're just adding unnecessary stress to your life. If it's a relative, put up some boundaries and distance yourself instead.
@@honeyhannijung the hells wrong with you? Just BC someone has a opinion with which you don't agree, doesn't mean you should put up boundaries and distance yourself from them. And if you have stress from everyday interactions go get exposure therapy.
Everyone looks for evidence to support their world view.
@@stepangvardeitsev808 Right...
And thanks to the internet, you can find people saying anything and everything. That's why I laugh when someone says "do your research". 100+ hours of Alex Jones videos doesn't make a person well read.
Me: *cant say a sentence without saying "uhm"*
Him: *speaks in eminem*
same
script out out your entire dialogue, edit it, upload to CZcams at a 1.5x playback speed.
@anastasia ty
U got 200 likes Because 200 ppl pressed like,can stand ppl that edit their comments with “omg how did this get so many likes”
Uhm
The fact that they’re not transparent and info on the shot is classified for 75 years tells you enough.
Naaaa doctor would never tell something wrong.. just like the ones in the past that did. give even kids heroin as it was considered „safe“.
They get paid a shit ton money for giving the vaccine and many are of them just drones, not doctors.
And they have absolute immunity from lawsuit
Bro my sister and brother in law just got COVID and what’s funny is my sis is a nurse I know before the pandemic she was nearing the end of becoming an RN she was in some type of class or program it was a two year long thing or whatever so initially I remember hearing that all healthcare workers HAVE to get the vaccine and idk if it’s because she wasn’t technically working at the time or what but she was like nah I’m gonna wait to get it just to i guess be safe that no craziness happens after it’s been out for awhile…so fast forward to a couple weeks ago I hadn’t heard from her or my bro in law and I talk on the phone with him damn near everyday about sports and just arguing about who’s right and who’s wrong about football or basketball whatever…so I’m trying to get ahold of them and I get nothing after like a week my sister finally sent me a text saying how her and him andddd the baby they just had got COVID and how it’s the most painful thing she’s ever experienced which was strange because my older brother got it too and he just described it as like the flu but a little more harsh whereas my sister said she was literally crying from the pain for like 2-3 days…my brother in law said it was awful for him too that everything he smells is just disgusting and that he tries to eat and immediately gags it up…but he said he’s not in anywhere near as much physical pain as she is. Her and the baby went to the ER because she was in so much pain and obviously the baby well is a baby…they are finally starting to feel a little better although they still are saying they feel awful but I just got a text from my bro in law saying DUDE GO GET THE VACCINE NOW 😂😂😂 so idk man I mean I typically don’t get too involved with these types of discussions but it seems weird to me that people think this is some type of conspiracy to like control your mind or secretly chip you so they know what you’re doing at all times…like they wanna watch you beating your meat at night before you go to bed or something😂😂😂
@@jordancave3089 I really believe it just depends on the type strain or viral load. I got it and all I got was head discomfort and exhaustion. Same thing for my wife.
@@mr.grizzlybear2060 yeah bro I mean it clearly effects everyone different although it’s kind of crazy just how much it can vary like I said my older brother said he basically had the flu and also lost his sense of taste and smell…then my sis and them felt like they were damn near dying
You should update this with ivermectin since the FDA lost their case and has to take their misinformation out
Quit horsin' around!
Wrong
@@ericf1135 correct actually
Ivermectin? I thought you were against big pharma.
If the antibodies fade from natural immunity doesn't it do the same for the vaccine which requires multiple if not indefinite booster shots?
Yes. The only option for the moment is to defend ourselves as best we can if we want to survive (social distancing, masks, vaccination ect.).
The vaccine provides a good defence as it allows the T cells in our body to know what the virus is and how to defeat it without having the actual virus.
As the virus mutates or the body 'forgets' how to defend we need to vaccinate again. You have the choice to be vaccinated with the code of the virus which is relatively safe or go up against the virus itself and its many mutations in the hope you come out the other side unscathed.
Although a pain in the arse, the choice is yours to have boosters or play roulette with the real thing.
@@rekinek510 the only reason the death rate is that low is because of the doctors who work tirelessly to save lives. When the hospitals get full the death rate increases significantly
Unfortunately, the body tends not to hold onto antibodies to other coronaviruses very long, so it’s unlikely that covid antibodies will stick around forever. People will either need boosters or reinfection to keep their immunity up. Hopefully, as more people get vaccinated or infected, the percentage of the population that has some amount of immunity will get high enough that we don’t have huge outbreaks and overwhelmed hospitals anymore.
@@rickrolled09 yeah , I'll go the booster once a year .
Better Vaxed than Fkd !
@@rekinek510 You're probably better off alive to the government slaving away 10 hours a day in a dead end job paying 50 years worth of taxes, consuming taxable goods and taking out taxable loans than you are taking leave work or dead from the 'flu'. You are already under the control of the government, coronavirus doesn't change anything.
“We don’t know what level equals immunity yet.” Exactly. There is simply not enough research done on this, yet the people enforcing mandates are acting as though this utter lack of research and information is unimportant. Bizarro.
We know vaccines work and we know the we need to do something. I’m tired of people acting like this is some hypothetical thought experiment that we asked everyone to weight in on. People are DYING
"I'm not an expert, but I think you haven't done enough research in these 2 years"
😐
@@Doc_Schmidt People are literally dying as soon as they are born. People don’t want the vaccine since it’s literally being forced on them to keep their job. My grandmother fought off covid and died 6 weeks after recovering yet the state of CA did everything they could to have her listed as a covid death. I can’t trust it yet. If I have to to keep my job to support my family I will take it. I believe in vaccines but not something the government is doing everything they can to make it mandatory. Masks are pointless and yet here we are almost two years later with idiots like you wearing them in their car…
@@griffspicks6333 couldn't have said it better
@@griffspicks6333 “people are dying as soon as they’re born” that doesn’t mean we can’t try to prevent it.
My hesitancy is just the fact that we don't know long term side effects. When it's been around for a few years with nothing big, then ill get it. When I was 15, I had a nurse try to push me to get the hpv vaccine. Said even nuns get it, its great, everyone should get it to be safe. My mom was there and said no, because it was too new and we didn't know long term side effects, maybe in a few years. The nurse gave my mom a disgusted snear then looked at me and said, "well, you'll be 18 soon and can make your OWN decisions" then looked at my mom with another snear and rolled her eyes as she turned away. Well, 3 years later I turned 18 and went into my yearly exam. Saw that I still hadn't gotten my hpv vaccine and asked if I needed it, but the doc said they weren't offering that shot at this time. Confused, I later went home and looked it up. Come to find out that vaccine the nurse was pushing on me had a lawsuit and discontinuation of it due to injuries and side effects. Since then I have fully adopted my parent 3-5 year rule. A vaccine has to be out for 3-5 years before ill take it. The longer the better.
THIS. YES THIS!
DC didn't ask
Ohkk so you aren't afraid of dying now or long term effects of COVID 🤨🤨🤨but you are afraid of long term effects of vaccine .
actually no vaccine has long term side effects, meaning that 2 years later u suddenly cant smell anymore bc of that vaccine or something. Vaccines dont work like thta
Injuries or side effects from what I have researched seem to be far less awful than cervical cancer. I don't know what your doctors were shooting into people but all the lawsuits I can find have not stopped the vaccine for HPV being given on a mass scale. Chances are the company either made a mistake in your certain area which did minor harm in the bigger picture. Let's be honest here, we do not know what any vaccine will do to us 2 to 3 years down the line but that's no reason to avoid them like they will do more harm than good. are we forgetting that getting covid in the first place could have side effects 2 to 3 years down the line as well? Imagine if people did that with the vaccine for polio and smallpox we would still have schools of children dying because people wanted to wait and see
My biggest issue was phizer had the biggest fine in us history for lying about their medicine
"Fighting communist for the glory of capitalism"... means, information warfare on behalf of Russia... everyone who listens to you is a Putin powered traitor 🇷🇺
Okay... what about all the other vaccines from all the other different companies from around the globe... and you know a company can tell a lie about one product many years ago and still deliver a different product years later that is as described that works well. I've had three Pfizers and I'm fine were as RFK Jr. Has a literal worm in his brain.
What?
@@thichchuianti yeah several billion dollar fine
He doesn’t bring up an argument that would convince anyone to change their minds
Yeah, the patient is explaining why they don’t feel compelled to get the shot, and the doctor isn’t offering compelling facts as to why they should. Doc is operating from a default of “get vaccinated.” The patient is operating from a default of status quo. The question at the start belies this: “so why areN’T you getting vaccinated?” As if this should be the default course of action.
You're right, the patient made up his mind when the the old president that left office stopped endorsing the vaccine.
@@KingNyanCat Trump was publicly, just a couple days ago, endorsing the vaccine and boosters. 🤨
@@KingNyanCat he never stopped endorsing the vaccine, there’s videos of him being booed recently for promoting it
@@KingNyanCat shouldn't it be about health and not politics? Because I vividly remember the left saying NOT to get it when Trump was in office and now they are forcing it down your throat. Why wouldn't you question it after that!?
So I had cancer twice ca. 2018-2019 and I had a bone marrow transplant that wiped out all of my baby vaccines- but covid happened literally right before I was supposed to start my re-vaccination schedule- but it was supposed to be by an infectious disease doctor, and I wasn’t about to head there during covid. I’ve had both my Pfizer’s and I got my booster in august, so I’m relatively safe from covid… but not polio… I finally get to start my re-vaccinations next month 💜
I am gonna root for you. I have
some knowledge about Stem Cell therapy’s effect with immunities. What you plan is
a great step in restoring those.
💁🏻♀️💭👌✌️
It's gonna be good!! I'm glad you shared your story.. much love and respect from Guam 🇬🇺
Sounds like you're on the right track, best wishes for your continued recovery from Oklahoma. 👋😀👍
I was adopted from China as a baby. All my vaccines were up to date cording to my records, but it turns out I had no antibodies whatsoever upon testing they did in the US! Got all my vaccines from the first year of life in like, 3 months lol. And I'm a straight-A student, well adjusted, on track to apply to medical school in two years, even with "dozens of jabs" in my life 👍
Glad you get to start building your immunity back 😄
Hate to break it to you but the Covid vaccine doesn't protect you from it.
And also the pharmaceutical companies got a blank check and billions and billions and billions of dollars and didn't have to take any responsibility for any negative side effects from the thing they created it's almost like the anti vaxxer actually had a point
But all anti-vaxxers are right wing. Conservatives actively support these industries and these industries support them. You know Anti-vaxxers are a massive boon for the pharmaceutical industry. They redirect and absorb a lot of left wing energy that could be directed towards socialising medicine and making it cheaper while also creating a lucrative market of people who need expensive advanced care when they get ill.
I’m honestly just tired of hearing people talk about this stuff
Same, I won't ever get the vaccine, not because I don't think it's safe or I'm antivax, I just don't like needles
You should really have all the likes for this comment
love your pfp, moon bunny
Honestly facts like who cares this much
@@internetsheep love your pfp, sheep tuber
I don't have it. I don't trust anything from a company I can't sue.
The company was giving them out for free. It’s not like they were trying to profit off of tricking you.
@@Anti.Furry.Warlord free? Too cute.. several years of your taxes paid for them!! How naive can you seriously be?
@@Anti.Furry.Warlord The company wasn't giving them out for free. The US government, using your tax dollars, bought the shots. The pharma companies were raking in BILLIONS of our tax dollars off of these shots. Just because you didn't pay at the time of injection does not mean that the the pharma company was giving them away. As a former manufacturing engineer, I can say with 100% confidence that you never trust a for profit company that can not be sued. It is all about the money. If the company has no fear of being sued, they will cut every corner to make more money for themselves at the risk of your lives.
@@mistyridge7028 and don’t you think the government would check to make sure that the vaccines are significantly safer than Covid before they paid? Because they WERE safer. The rate of serious side effects was only 7.64 per 100,000 people.
@Anti.Furry.Warlord have you seen the US government.
"Over 75% of deaths occurred on people who had at least 4 comorbidities, so really these people were unwell to begin with"-CDC director Walensky
No replies to this says a lot
This! I have tons of disorders/diseases (one of which includes bad reactions to vaccines - I even am “allergic” to sterile needles with nothing on them/in them…) so Covid is a scary reality for me. I probably wouldn’t do well and have been a hermit for 2 years now :/
@@thechosenone2596 Sure. Not like it's just depressing. I wonder what this guy considers a "comorbidity". I'd love to see how many of the population have more than 4.
@@Queer_Nerd_For_Human_Justice It's not what "this guy" "considers" a "comorbitity" you ninny, it's what the medical community diagnoses as a comorbidity- conditions such as obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and so on...
I like how you omit the most important part of the quote. The study was about vaccinated people. Meaning the vaccine works, as you likely have to be very sick already to die if you're vaccinated, but can much more easily die without any comorbidities if you're unvaccinated
Are we to ignore that there are tons of drugs that were tested much longer and pulled from the market due to unforseen side effects?
Everyone likes to point out how it's fda approved when the fda has constantly pulled drugs or chemicals etc. From the market because they deemed them too dangerous
Shush listen to daddy government
When doctors begin to sound like politicians it makes you wonder what is being taught.
Amargus
They will attack us!!! Amargus is coming!!
Doctors sound like politicians because Fox News believes they graduated college.
@@awesomemantroll1088 what the hell does Fox News have to do with it? I swear some of you people are obsessed with that stupid fucking channel.
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4 years ago i was at the high of my pbysical and mental performance. I just won a triathlon for my age group. I just won a womens skateboarding competition, i just recieved high honors in the military and recieved sailor of the quarter.
Then i got vaccinated with phizer vax when I was 28 years old. The military said I had to get it and everything would be fine.
2 weeks after vaccine I was throwing up and having random panic attacks and blurry vision. Now I am 31 and in a wheelchair and have severe issues and have to have a care give and can't walk more than 20 ft without having post exertions mylas.
I have been seen by the doctors at the va and at standford medical. I do not have an auto immune disease or any of that.
They said my body cannot process the vaccine and I have liver damage and damage to my cells in my body because of the vaccine.
The doctors do not know how to heal me. They just tell me to rest and hopefully my body will heal on its own.
If the covid vaccine can injure a perfectly healthy young adult.
I'm sure it injured many more.
They needed to do more studys before they released that vax for covid.
And vaccines shouldn't be mandatory. It should be free will. Because I didn't get a choice. I am wheelchair bound and homebound
I do not have energy to cook or shower on my own.
Nobody in this chat is going to listen to reason.
Yeah, when my doctors ask me why I won't get the shots or boosters, I refer them to the many, many cases like yours. I have two autoimmune disorders, and my immune system tends to go crazy when I get any vaxes. My children are the same way...
okay and now imagine what wouldve happened if you'd gotten full-blown covid before any of that 😭 ffs
like i dont think that you understand how vaccines work on a biological level if you sincerely think that your body reacted more severely to the vax than it wouldve to the actual virus
@@Ash-fe1ur full blown covid lolol a cold? God forbid. We've allll have covid.
Totally agree with the Doc here, but fundamentally people can choose to opt out of a medical procedure if they want to, and they don't owe you an explanation.
Doc has the responsibility to want their patients healthy. Unfortunately the government doesn’t have the power to enforce medical decisions
Yet.
@@JavaoftheLava they never will 🤣lmao I had to get my attorney involved because they threatened my job… guess what? I still have my job 🤷🏽♂️
@@trippen4391 You shouldn't have, but lawyers let scumbags get their way
@@Tootsierollerz13 vaccines keep you safe, but it is still a procedure and it is still your body you shouldn't ever mandate what someone does with their body. It won't stop at vaccines and they'll use the "common good" or "greater good" as an excuse. It's how eugenics was sold in its early days and as a result the bodily autonomy of many people (mostly women) was violated in some of the most horrific ways. Vaccines are good, mandates are bad.
@@JavaoftheLava so you're anti-abortion too then?
This video hits a little different a year later
Yeah, it aged like a fine cup of milk sitting in the blazing sun of Texas for over a month.
@@Elnegro.. I really don't see how given COVID deaths in my country are way down and have a strong corrolation with the mass vaccination which has been offered freely
@@xander1052 I did write a detailed comment on the matter, but it appears to have been deleted.
I'll make it short and sweet.
You're wrong, COVID deaths are down everywhere as everyone has immunity to it thanks to getting COVID and surviving it.
As for the rest the subreddit thetruthoncovid will answer your question
@@xander1052 it already had a low mortality rate with the virus providing natural immunity stronger for longer compared to the vaccine. And the people who got dropped dead from the blood clots, that's a thing too. And the enlarged ventricles and damaged lining in the heart but that second part was about select companies.
@@xander1052 what country are you in?
“Maybe natural immunity might wane”
That’s not convincing
Also he used that RIGHT after saying that immunity from vaccines wane, but its ok
It wanes though. That's why some ppl get chicken pox even if they had it as infants
@@abolishgender3240 maybe. Probably doesn’t wane as fast as the shot considering now they’re recommending 2 booster shots months after each dose. Make it make sense.
@@johnhancock1362
The situation with influenza is essentially identical, vivid is just much more aggressive than the flu. Us people with brains don't want to die just because you're afraid of needles. Call your mom to hold your hand of you're so afraid.
@@abolishgender3240 and that is why the influenza shot isn't mandated and that still kills more people generally
I just wish someone could have warned me that the live virus vaccine could activate my dormant celiacs disease. If I’d have known I’d have taken different precautions, but now I’m stuck with a disease that changes my whole life. All because I was threatened my job if I didn’t.
COVID mRNA vaccines didn't use live virus.
It's not a live virus vaccine. And u weren't forced.
Honestly, in norway atleast, natural immunity is considered safe for 1 year, while the vax is considered safe for a few months only. We also had less people dying from corona than the flu (before we got the vax) so the epidemic is considered over as its not considered deathly. Maybe you should look at why no one seems to die off it in Scandinavia, while its quite deathy in America?
Bc most people here are out of shape here in the United States like really 💀
Thanks
Because our government is fucked
In America, people skew the numbers. I have a classmate in college that works in the ER and when covid was a "new" thing, he said that some people that died of heart attacks, car accidents, cancer, etc . . . were labeled as "covid related deaths" because of the huge pay off Dr's get by labeling their patients as covid deaths.
Can you link to some studies from your country please, I'd like to check them out
Oh how relatable this conversation is. 😭
If these medicines backfire you need a certain percentage of hospital workers and people to not have taken it so the sick can be helped...
At this point if it causes cancer in 3 years the whole earth is dead
The dr just moved goalposts and out right lied. Isreal is on its 4th shot, they got boosters. So by his own admission, boosters don't work. Plus we where told herd immunity at 80%, that's obviously not the case.
@@phillylove7290 we were told herd immunity is 70%, they moved the post..
Now it's 90%.
But counting those infected we should at least be at 80%
@@phillylove7290 its not moving a goal
post, its called science. science recommendations change based on new evidence and data. that’s why we aren’t still bleeding people with leeches and using the 4 humors to treat sick people
@@ekekekekk yes exactly, thank you. The science now shows its not worth taking, like leaches. The idea of "vax away covid like smallpox" and "pandemic of the unvaccinated" are gone, long gone. Its now statistically less effective then the flu shot. Vitamins, proper diet, and exercise would be more effective.
Me coming up with random arguments in my head that'll never happen be like:
Lol thought this was just me
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Juneismissingg welcome twin lol
Unless you’ve had your 8th shot, how can I even take you seriously?
8th??? I havent even had my first shot
This guy sounds like a pain meds doctor selling his pharma products.
I wanna do a lot to this doctor
Pain meds actually work.
@@sdkmsdfkmkasdf yes…. They work so well that hundreds of thousands of people get addicted to them (not dependent but addicted) and will give up their families, livelihoods and every thing they hold dear for another pill. Look up how many people die of overdoses vs. covid annually… that’ll show just how great the pain killers work.
@@reencampbell4481 But they actually work at relieving pain as opposed to the vaccine which does not do anything.
@@reencampbell4481 that's bc most people who get addicted didn't take the correct dosage to ween of as mutiple might miss a day and take 2 or feel phantom pain and take pain meds
“We don’t know what level equals immunity”
*takes shots*
“Didn’t work try another one”
And another plus another... and you'll have to take them each year! How many? Who knows, just take it!
Thought I was the only one who saw an issue with that
Worked for me. Sorry for your future loss bro.
@@lemegetatchu1989 future loss?
Yeah nah fug all that there’s gotta be a better method
Here's a great explanation that I've used to convince two of my anti-vax friends who didn't want the shot because of the breakthrough infections:
Our vaccines aren't this effective, but let's say we had a hypothetical vaccine that was 99% effective. Now let's say we vaccinate 100 million people. Guess what? 1 million people are still probably going to get sick because 1% of 100 million is 1 million. Now factor in the fact that the US population is over 300 million and the most effective vax, Pfizer, is 95% effective. Odds are, you're going to know at least one person who had a breakthrough infection while fully vaccinated. But is the vaccine ineffective because 1 million people got sick? Or does it work because 99 million people stayed well?
You clearly don't care about the unknowns of a new vaccine
You do know that the Pfizer isnt 95% effective?
Its 88% effective, dropping down to 47% within 5 Months (booster shot needed).
The "prevented Hospitalization" rate is at 93% with the Pfizer Vaccine. I think you mean that one?
@@JaneDoe-ip5yl you clearly don't care about the unknowns of the long term effects of Covid...which all evidence points to being WAY worse and WAY more likely.
That's gonna create a poor mortality rate .That's same the rate of covid deaths.
People are already depressed with the pandemic imagine adding a poor health or a damage due to the vaccine. That'll affect families of the 1%you mentioned.
Which will affect their friends, loved ones, etc. On top of all that they got no one to sue?
Can this vaccine guarantee covid won't kill you?
If vaccine is really as good as advertised everyone would be willing to take.
As for vaccinated that should be personal like if you use ARVs
It's as if no privacy and your right to choice is invaded and made a public choice
Actually we have no idea how effective the vaccines are because we didn't do anti body test during vaccine process. We simply don't have the data to assess effectiveness.
All four of us at home got covid after we got two shots in, and it was like a bad cold for all of us, but it passed after a week and we were all okay. My grandma would NOT have survived unvaccinated, and my mom and uncle could have easily gotten very sick, but the vaccines helped us all to get only mildly sick and make a full recovery, I am grateful for that, I cannot live without my grandma
Likewise, I got it the first time after two shots and the second time after the third. Was fine both times and no long term consequences.
@@georgesears2916 thats what you think.
@@Info-eh4tv it's been 4 years, none of the conspiracy theories came true. Neither has yours 🙂
And in 20 years you find out you have covid cancer from the vaccine. Enjoy!
@@Info-eh4tv I noticed you recently asked someone about their DNA... Notice that conspiracy is pretty much dead 😁
Does anyone remember when they said 15 days to flatten the curve? Good times...
Edit: wow, I think this is the most likes I've gotten on a youtube post.
Went from 15 days to hand me your papers real quick
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 “hAnd mE YoUr pAperS”
@@thatconservativetrainguy3864 in many EU countries you now need a green pass to even get a job, you either get vaccinated or pay 50€ a week in tests, so you basically have to get vaccinated to feed your family.
That's because nobody listened to the actual guidelines we needed to follow for 15 days. I imagine it would've ended up being about a month or 2, but so little people actually tried that it didn't work.
@@theskilledsnake nope, if people followed it to the letter soon after the 15 days a new variant would have come out that is more infectious and what do you know we need another 15 days to flatten the curve, then after that another new variant and so on
Oh boy a video about vaccines, I sure hope the comments are civil!
Yeah that’s not going to happen
The video aged like a fine glass of milk.
While I see the arguments for the vaccine, I still don't think they're strong enough to justify things like vaccine mandates this early on.
Fuck no vaccine mandates are wack
@@vnolan633 no sarcasm that is a 10/10 amazing point, if we’re worried about people dying why don’t we tackle heart disease and obesity first? But no, this is just so important even though more people die to the flu :/
@@heyitsbrookie-dw5ge maybe because what the fuck are we supposed to do for the obese people? Can’t give them a shot to lose weight, but we can give a shot to get resistance to the flu and covid
@Harold Cleveland You shouldn't mandate what people do with their body. The moment any government takes that liberty, they will never give it back. Just look at the countries who have made temporary powers permanent since the start of the Pandemic.
@@podrumkaleto5042 your rights shouldn't be restricted because the minority population is choosing not to get it for either health reasons or waiting for more evidence that it's 100% safe, that's not wrongdoing, the gov just wants control so reject it.
Genuine question; If "we don't know what level of antibodies equals immunity", how can we know if vaccines are/aren't strong enough?
This question misses a key part.
Total immunity is optimal but any antibodies will help in case of future infection.
In case of testing, the treated test group is monitored and compared to an untreated group. There are established rates to call something "working" where the test group is less sick than the untreated group.
If the test group has some people getting sick while others aren't, they check what levels of antibodies they had before symptoms were discovered. If there is a clear correlation between antibody count and vaccinated people not getting sick, then that is used to determine what level of antibodies is considered "immune."
@@JaharNarishma so "immune" is used more as a blanket term for a more successful recovery/less impactful sickness. 100% is usually impossible to achieve, so the term is used loosely based on its definition. Thanks for the answer :)
@@OrcaPlushie no problem! Glad I could help
I'm not an expert, but public health agencies can track the efficacy of a vaccine by collecting data on the vaccination status of a population and how many people of each status have COVID, were recently hospitalized due to COVID, and/or died from COVID.
If they notice that fully-vaccinated + boosted people are the least likely to be hospitalized from COVID and/or dead from COVID, then we know the vaccines we're giving are at least somewhat effective.
because their salesmen say it is
I like how he doesn't answer that this isn't technically a vaccine.
They are vaccines. It was just too dumb to dignify. Remember, the mRNA vaccines aren't the only ones.
@@Bolizen yes but they are dangerous
@@Bolizen vaccine implies immunity not protection. At least until you secretly change the definition of Vaccine.
mRNA therapy hasn’t been treated long term on humans. I refuse to be a Guinea pig.
@@cosmicbonzo7559 Don’t argue with people who are pro vaccine, they trust in their overlords
Last statement applies to the "medical community" as well.
It's not a one-way street
Exactly. Thank you.
It is. We have a high burden of proof. Research comes first. We didn’t just go with the first vaccine trial. There were like 80 of them that didn’t work.
The "medical community" is literally regulated so that information is verified and tested. Its not in any way comparable to an uneducated person googling stuff to make them feel better about killing grandma.
@@katradiction if you pass COVID to someone, you didn’t kill them. The virus did. You’re the type of person that worries me.
@@caydcrow5161 if you pass Covid to someone because you are being intentionally irresponsible, you ARE killing them. Kind of like how people get charged for criminal negligence when they don't keep building to code. The building killed someone, but it was the person's fault. It absolutely is someone fault if they refuse to take the proper precautions and someone dies as a result. I just wish we could hold them accountable.
No one has to TRY to make anyone look stupid. They do that all on their own.
It’s harmless until you get myocarditis and have a heart attack like my dad did :)
Gave my wife's grandfather 3 blood clots reported it to vars over 30 minutes to fill it out and submit it felt like they made it annoying on purpose.
Shh shh shh. You never said that. Remember, let’s go Brandon!
Remember: COVID is terrifying and even one death is too many; but if we're talking about the vaccine, we don't care how many people are injured or die, IT'S WORTH THE RISK.
Same
My mother had a stroke after her first Astra Zeneca injection. I was concerned about getting the jab after her stroke and my doctor suggested to get the injection in the bum, as its a bigger muscle and much safer, and i was fine. After my mother got a full heart check she got her second dose and was told to get Pfizer, lucky she was ok.
People ignore the amount of distrust their is for their government. Particularly in america. I would argue many of the anti vaxxers are anti government they just happen to coincide in this case.
Edit: if i wrote this again id replace antivaxx with anti mandate.
Do me a favor, find me an American that actually trusts the government right now… lol
@@reencampbell4481 My father
@@reencampbell4481 the problem isn’t trusting the government. The problem is that people trust the government to do the wrong things instead of the right things. It’s like anti trust lol
@@apothic0n I think the government has good intentions, but they don't have any foresight. So, I would mostly agree with this point.
Yeah, it's usually never just one thing. I find that a lot of racists are sexists as well. I'd say a few of them aren't fond of gay people either😄
I’m not an anti-vaxxer. Never been. My livelihood shouldn’t be threatened with this
99% of anti covid vaxxers arent “anti-vaccine” like the media tries to say. Most people simply have done some research and don’t want to be forced to get an experimental injection.
@@emprahsfinest7092 rather patient zero in their home town. Every antivaxxers cries after they get covid.
@@BG-wz1iu look into what happened with the tetanus shot.
No one should be forced to Vax for work, I believe in vaccines but it is a persons choice.
@@BG-wz1iu and vaxxers can also still get sick like… you dont think antivaxxers know they can still get sick?? Anybody whose sick is gonna be upset like ????
Unvaxxed. Still haven't caught it, Still haven't been to the hospital and I go out and do things lol. All my friends that are once twice thrice jabbed all have caught it multiple times, and that's something consistent across the board that people have spoken about. It's not a coincidence.
$200 for things that didn’t happen. Cute story tho. I’ll let my uncle know that his wife who was antivax and died of Covid that it was all a misunderstanding
@casey2124 "Your anecdotal evidence isn't real because I have my own anecdotal evidence" is not an argument.
Same here man, pretty much verbatim how you described.
"But my chances of dying is 0.000003%"
Gacha player: As long as it's not 0 there's a chance
loving that you said this with a genshin pfp
Even if you don’t die you can still transfer it
PFP checks out
@@blueoceancat2840 why care if someone is vaccinated if you are vaccinated.
@@AmenoHoshizora pretty cringe should get a life ngl
There are actual reasons to be skeptical of the vaccine, it's just that most anti vaxxers don't look into the vaccines enough to know what they are
Finally someone said it
Yeah if they looked into it their concerns would be eased
I would probably take the vaccine if this was actually about the health of the public and not control.
PHD or not, do you trust this the way it played out?
@@blobjorn3248 but… it is
Boosters are a waste of time, btw. Covid will continue to mutate with the rollout of more boosters.
Tetanus boosters are given ever 10 years and no one questions it
With or without* Because COVID is a virus, so the possibility of mutation is way higher as RNA is mutates easier than DNA
Safe and effective and myocarditis guaranteed! 💉
@@lw1zfogode to the multiboosted
Myocarditis? You know if you experience serious side-effects, there's something called 9-1-1 (US) 1-1-2 (EU, IN) etc etc.
Remember when they said it was caused by 5G? Remember when they said it contained an ID2020 microchip. Then they said it rewrote your genes. Then they said it would cause mass deaths. Then we'd all be sterile. Now, pray tell, since none of these happened, why should we believe you now?
Liar
I think the most common point is that they want to wait and see what long term effects they may have because many who are anti covid vaccine are vaccinated for other vaccines that have been around for enough time. I myself am vaccinated but see that as totally fair
Exactly. Like I only went to get vaccinated when every single place started asking for qr codes confirming vaccination and I couldn't get lunch at work while sitting in another place. I'm also usually highly reactive, although have never been deemed allergic to vaccines, so I was really nervous. The first shot (Sputnik V, I'm Russian) wasn't really good, while I didn't have a lot of reactions, the red spit on my arm was about 10 centimetres in diameter, hot and inflamed, and wouldn't fade until I started allergy treatment topically. And the fatigue that lasted for a good two weeks...
With the second shot 3 weeks after the first one, I started the same ointment immediately and generally felt much better. So I totally get those who are worried.
While I get that point, more than 7billion jabs have been administered and long term effects only show up the days following the vaccination, meaning that if there were a lot of people suffering from long term effects, we‘d definitely know by now.
@@cheCK561000 no. Long term effects literally mean effects that show up months or years after the vaccination or any other medical intervention. You're referring to short-term effects, at least that's how I and a lot of others understand the two terms
@@atriyakoller136 Name a single vaccination or mRNA treatments that has had side effects show up after 6 months that we don't already know about. You won't find any.
@@atriyakoller136 can you name one single vaccine that has ever had one single “long term effect” that took months or years to show up?
The irony is his final statement about confirmation bias applies to himself too.
Edit: I didn’t mean to cause a war here. My point is, confirmation bias is you believing something because you already agree to similar things and/or you like the source of the info. This guy may be a doctor, but he can’t tell me what’s in this vaccine and how it works. So he is operating on faith in his industry. Which is absolutely fine, he knows the industry more than me, he works in it, it would be weird if he didn’t. It’s Just hypocritical to call others out who are doing the same thing just because they’re on the other side.
Nope, facts are facts
@@jamesharris1280 facts are facts, do you take yours on faith from the Tele or do you look what is being done and said? Reality is way better then fiction if you ask me.
@ynot drewans What’s your point.
@@raracool6531 that people need to start thinking for them selfs and not have a canned opinion from(insert corporation name here).
Self awareness on 0
It hasn't been out long enough to see long term effects, and it's a personal choice.
Bingo
Thank you. There is a huge difference healthy caution and an antivaxer.
Perfectly said
Potentially harming others out of conspiratorial mumbo jumbo seems pretty illogical. I'd agree that it's a personal choice if it didn't affect others, unfortunately it does.
@@mitraaruna clearly you don't know the facts. It only effects the person who has the vaccine, in fact the people with the vaccine are now the super spreaders, same concept as those who have natural immunity.
videos like this didn’t age well i have heart issues now and doctors are being surprisingly open about the likelihood that it was vaccine im 24, a veteran andd was in good health and have no history of heart issues in my family
all people that we know that got it have heart problems, or had organ failure or have extreme flus that almost killed them everytime
I just feel like ppl should be able to say no to take anything in their body, no matter the reason.
So is driving drunk okay?
@@cato1024 driving drunk is not ok but that’s a choice some ppl make. Us unvaxd are being told we don’t have a choice
@@colechristie6046 you have a choice. You are choosing to throw away almost everything for you misinformed pride. No one is arresting you for not getting vaccinated. You're not forced. You're being held accountable. Deal with it.
@@cato1024 people have lost their jobs because they dont want the vaccine and in the UK the government is starting to enforce vaccine passports on us. If we dont have them we cant live the normal life we previously lived. If that's not coercion I dont know what is.
@@IllegalHelios then get the vaccine lol. It's easy and free. No one keeping you from getting it except yourself and being wrong. They're still not forcing you. You are just choosing to lose many aspects of life to be wrong and more at risk of a virus. Not my fault. It's yours.
"Random facts" vs "available facts"? Aren't all facts available, whether you think they're "random" or not? The conclusion he makes at the end can also be said about him. And notice how he didn't address the fact of long term side-effects? Can you guess why?
Because there aren't any
@@nightmarechoir6946 I guess you've lived for more than 50 years and came back to 2021 to tell us the long term side effects. Enlightenment us please
@@Anya-ef3sb you’re not very smart are you
Bro fr, and honestly why can’t people respect the fact is someone doesn’t want the vaccine, I would never make some stupid tik Tok and why people shouldn’t get it( although there are plenty of reasons) I am respectful and respect a fellow human beings decision, “don’t hate nor discriminate”
@@BeefyTiger505 that whole my body my choice thing died off real quick didn't it
Been over a year since this was made and people are still malding
expect intensification.
Anti-vaxxers are the definition of feelings over facts.
Wtf is malding?
That’s anti-vaxxers for you. They are the definition of feelings over facts.
Nobody is more stubborn than these anti-vax conspiracy theorists.
The vaccine is probably for people who are old or at great risk. It doesn't really stop transmission. I got the first vaccine dose and I am NEVER getting a booster.
"Oh yeah we just need a dozen jabs..." 😄
@Honda Riding its a reference not actual truth
@@yagirltones8748 glad to see you finally coming around. It's all bullshit. It has split families and friends. Devil doing his best work so far.
@@tjtuck4520 at least there's the few that can see the ridiculous programming
@@tjtuck4520 😴😴😴
@@x.astar.x we in the simulation baby sit back and watch the downfall of society. It’s all bullshit lmao
Hes kind of right, a lot of people are scared of taking something new and comparatively unproven and will gravitate towards reasons that support their uncertainty. Tbh you could say the same thing about people willing to try the vaccine because they are afraid of the uncertainty the pandemic brings. Part of "being nice" is understanding people's true reasons for things. We're all human, and we're all trying to cope here.
The people I know who won't get it is because they don't believe it's necessary and they don't want a controversial shot if they don't think they need it so it's more personal opinion
Said best!
But horse paste? You cant defend that
@@IDoABitOfTrollin the people actually going out to get horse paste are morons. But that whole thing was a bunch of bs from the media, doctors absolutely prescribe ivermectin. But the FDA says noooooo so the news spins it as such.
@@IDoABitOfTrollin We give antibiotics to horses and humans both. Is it reasonable or honest to label antibiotics as "horse medication" and discourage people from taking them?
“We don’t know what level equals immunity yet”
So mandates have no goal.
👍🏼
Vaccinate everyone
@@Doc_Schmidt How does the boot taste?
@@Doc_Schmidt
Do you know any potential long term side effects of the vaccines?
@@npc-tq6yi Better than 6 ft underground, I'd bet.
@@John.T. Do you?
You answered a very important grey are question for me. “We don’t know what level of immunity”
We don't know what level of antibodies dictates protection via natural immunity however this vaccine definitely works because... we can see a specific level of antibodies created by your body...
Not to mention the vaccine only protects against the spike protein while natural immunity protects against all 23 proteins..
They know they just don’t want you to know
@@MisterRay11 except we don't know it takes years to find the level of anti bodies bc your protection changes based on health, where you live, blood type, what you eat, social life, even what you wear. Due to how many factors there are it takes years till we even get close enough to guess then it takes a while till we even see if we were right on that guess
@@Jigsaws_Game but we can get a vaccine and trust it in 6 months I don’t think so take that ish somewhere else boy
Yea but memory cells ( B cells ) that make anti body does last long for sure then a year .. there is studies out there and there are scientists and doctors talking about this
Responsibility is also not taken for any side effects
Right but people forget that it isn't just with the covid vaccine, it's ALL vaccines! Us anti vaxxers knew all of this already
@@unitedfirearms1057 ok please don’t refer to me as an anti vaxxer, I’m just not comfortable with taking it if the nhs don’t take responsibility for side effects
@@user-vx4rq5jv5y I said US anti vaxxers as in I am and we understand it. You took it out of context
@@user-vx4rq5jv5y that doesn't concern you either? I'd think you'd be anti vax by making your original statement and now hearing that they're protected if ANY side affects come from ANY vaccines
@@user-vx4rq5jv5y It’s not the nhs it’s the manufacturers of the vaccine cuz they don’t wanna pay for it. Understandable that you don’t know the side effects but I argue that we also don’t know the long term effects of COVID and the fact that it’s probably worse to get a live infection either way. It’s really a case of picking cost benefit at this rate. Prolonging vaccination could get you infected with covid and spread it around. For long term effects if it didn’t show up now, the likelihood of it showing up later won’t happen (it’s been a year already). As with all medicines there will be a chance with horrible side effects.
I'm vaccinated, but there were a couple of points that you said that are illogical. First the booster, so far the studies that show waning effectiveness have only looked at antibodies, and infection rates which don't really matter if it still prevents hospitalizations and death. Also we've already had two shots and a third within 6 months is unprecedented in vaccinations. Second multiple studies have shown natural immunity to be more durable than the vaccines so that excuse is pretty valid.
Could you link me to the studies that say that natural immunity is durable?
@@TheGreatWasian_ I’m assuming that big pharma isn’t gonna invest in that study.
@@lauvasquez7198 it really bothers me so much when people discredit natural immunity and think the vaccine is the only form of protection
Don't try to argue with vaxxers. They're the literal strawman of the antivaxxer, just the other way around. Also don't argue with antivaxxers. Same reason. Don't argue. Nobody changes their mind if they've already made it. Waste of breathe.
But as someone who is not vaxxed to 'rona i finally understand atheists and what they might feel like if they are in religious environment.
@@TheGreatWasian_ regardless of what your opinions are I absolutely hate anyone who asks for sources. It’s dishonest. If you actually cared you would look for them yourself until you found it or you were confident enough that it doesn’t exist.
You aren’t paying anyone to research for you. They aren’t making money of their post. It’s just a fact that an argument isn’t right or wrong with/without including a source.
2 years on still unvaccinated and haven't seen the hospital
same lol
An exception doesn’t make the rule. The fact is getting the vaccine significantly reduces your risk.
@Anti.Furry.Warlord these guys are too dumb to understand that.
And I've never gotten in a car crash when I'm drunk so drunk driving must be a myth
Are you aware of the concepts of statistics and probability?
I missed the entire spring term of grade eight because of post covid. A year later and every single joint hurts, I can't hold my head up for multiple hours because my neck is to tired and I need multiple adaptations in school to be have enough energy to keep up with my class. I still don't have an official diagnosis because I mainly have mental problems and they don't know how my brain works. It will likely take years to get it properly checked out since no one has time for me.
I hope things get better for you
I hope you are better. This sounds more like what ppl are seeing with the carrot 🥕.
Omg! It's me!
If you value you sanity, just avoid the comment section of this one.
Good advice in general for social media 😂
Lol well howd that turn out? Losing your sanity now because you were lied to?
Fr this is atrocious
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@@kirarozu howd isn’t a waiter I think you meant how’d. Go back to your second grade English class.
I remember a generation that would say “fml” “kill me now” “I want to die”...now they’re all vaccinated 😂
Listen, kill me now, but in a swift no painful way, not in a gurgle and drowning in my own flooded lungs kind of way
@@butterworthfilter8403 this coming from the generation that thought Tide Pods and Milk Crates was a bright idea 🤨🤨
@@Randomguy41639 Not as bad as the generation that raised them
@@JimmyBoy9878 oof🤯
This is hilarious and true. That was so the mood and theme of my gen. Millennials lol. And now theyre all afraid of their own shadow cuz it may have covid 😑
My favorite was while working in hospital, some of the doctors very strongly pushed pregnant nurses to get the vaccine after it had only been out for a few months.
No shade doc, but there's always the bottom 10%. Ultimately I think the vaccines were mostly good (except for the JJ vaccine.) But at the time there was relatively little time to determine long effects for the populus at large. Vaccines should have been encouraged, but not forced.
Nailed it
I agree with this for the most part, I think there were a few factors in this specific case though. Mrna vaccines have been around before covid, so the method has been tested even if the specific vaccine for covid hadn't been created or tested long term (they did do short term before releasing it).
There's also what I think may be the main factor in why there were mandates early on, and that was the death rates. So many people were dying and at such a worrying rate. And we knew early on that it was at least making a dent in deaths even if it didn't stop people from getting covid completely as well as we all hoped. The millions dying world-wide was horrific.
I remember looking at the numbers that kept going up every day and just crying because of the state of the world at that time. So many dead. It felt like any possible side effects had to be worth it just from the numbers. Luckily major side effects are super rate and are mostly in very specific situations but at the time without knowing that, I felt it was something we needed to do to save everyone.
If it works then why does it need to be promoted in every media and political campaign as well as these videos always being made? Why cant people make their own life choices without being called stupid for it? When did things go from "thats your personal choice" to the modern toxicity of covid?
Because people believe bullshit very easily that's why they need to be reassured earlier Britain vaccination rate was 93 percent and then one guy came and said without any proof that Vaccine causes autism and suddenly after that vaccination fell to 73 and it has not recovered since then
@@MyAman222 wait, how does the vaccine rate of a population drop by 20%? The vaccine rate is the percent of the population that is vaccinated.
It need to be promoted because people are completely FUCKING STUPID.
@@seth7764 they just took the vaccine and pushed it somewhere else
Because when your personal choices reach out and touch others, you aren't just making them for yourself. The nature of viruses and how they spread means all of society needs to collectively work together to effectively combat them. I'd suggest looking up the history of small pox and polio, two viruses that were at one time commonplace. If society back then was as vaccine hesitant as today's is we would still have iron lungs everywhere.
To clarify, this isn't like deciding on whether or not to wear a safety belt. Something also enforced by law. It's more like choosing to smoke in a non smoking area and thinking it's acceptable behavior. But worse, because instead of just mostly stinking up the air, you are being a vector for a harmful disease.
I got a lot of uncertainty from both sides of that. I'm in the same boat. I had COVID in may and it really wasn't bad and nobody can tell me if I'm good. Besides the pressure to get it, I don't think I need it so that's what I went with.
So far, no pressure from work and I live in a state that doesn't really have any mandates.
That's what I got too. He's just using his medical background to throw around his uncertainty as fact and he ironically addressed the way he's doing isn't working and continues to do it anyway
@@chrismarthaller1032 but this is why variants exist bc people are allowing the virus to mutate. If everyone was vaccinated, the variant would have never exist in the first place and covid would be gone. What's the problem with getting the vaccine? don't you rather want a virus to disappear?
@@Hibarif123 lolololol I'm sorry I don't know where you heard that but do you understand that when the virus passes from person to person it mutates? It's a virus, that's the nature of viruses. Getting the vaccine DOES NOT STOP TRANSMISSION. Go actually read the CDC website. The vaccine protects YOU and decreases YOUR chances of SEVERE AFFECTS. It's not to stop you from getting COVID or giving it to anyone else vaxxed or unvaxxed. If you go around without a mask, congregating with people you can and will catch it, in some cases with vaccinated people 2-3 times. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but COVID is a coronavirus, the most common coronavirus we deal with is called the common cold. COVID is the same class as the common cold but deadlier. As yourself how many times you've had the cold. Every few month it has changed and you can get reinfected. COVID isn't going anywhere. Vaccinated people are logically more dangerous than unvaccinated, they're less likely to show symptoms while carrying it and aren't required to wear masks. I can do this all day, I'm a safety professional and the CDC trained me in infectious disease control and prevention before COVID and I can tell you half the crap you've heard on the news goes against their own training. You're trusting the word of the same people who told you wear disposable surgical masks for an airborne respiratory virus in the same sentence they said hospitals needed respirator masks but banned selling them. It's time to wake up now.
@@Hibarif123 Viruses will always mutate, vaccines or not. HIV still mutates to this day, despite the uptick in the use of condoms.
@@MrArtVein how it feels to be WOKE 😂❤😉
So I have all of my vaccines, my child has all his vaccines. I agree with proven vaccines, not untested ones. Nowadays this makes me an anti-vaxxer lol All because of one vaccine. People would feel better if the government wasn’t forcing it.
“Untested” 🤦🏽♂️
@@TeShady why r u facepalming? The person is absolutely right
The vaccine isn’t untested, mRNA isn’t untested. There are academic and scientific papers and statistics that prove this. The only thing you need to do is research, do so with the same seriousness you would if you had to write an essay for college.
@@TeShady bro you are the test 🤦♂️. The long term side effects will be on you. Hopefully for y’all’s sake the vax doesn’t cause cancer in like 10 years or something but we don’t know at this time what the side effects could even be. Not to mention the media keeps covering up any actual side effects that the jab causes
@@Vox_Popul1 there has never been a successful mRNA therapy before. Yes they've TRIED to develop these in the past but they've all failed-most ended up killing the test subjects or making them MORE susceptible to disease. Hopefully that isn't what's happening here but if the rate of "breakthrough" infections is any indication....
So what you're saying is that the second character should just become a guinea pig for medicine. Right?
No. We are saying the patient should use the highly tested vaccine to increase his resistance to the disease, lower the odds of permanent damage to his body, and reduce the time he spends transferring the disease.
It’s literally no different from any other vaccine in that regard, in that it was well-tested beforehand, but those findings are always subject to change.
Im honestly not worried about how effective it is, im more worried about the long term side effects. Im just hoping its not like the cutter polio vaccine.
Sir you’re not supposed to think freely. Doesn’t help push the ✨ special flu shot ✨
@@buddyhosier8061 - I know, right? Hey, just go ahead and get that "special flu" and tell us how much of a walk in the park it is.
long term side effects as opposed to covid long term side effects(that are already being discovered)
@@djordjetosic4553 - Exactly. The long term effects of COVID were already known before any vaccine hit the market, but the anti-vaxxers completely ignore them in their rants against vaccines. The only thing they talk about with COVID are the deaths despite the COVID illnesses and challenges in recovery from COVID being far more substantial.
@@AllThroughALife Lol, i had covid and lost my smell for life. Yet I ain't getting vaccinated yet, I don't trust those scummy pharma ceo's. They have done so many scandals, why not add one on there. Ineffective vaccines just so they can sell boosters maybe? Paying of politicians so they can get billions on billions in tax money? They created the opioid pandemic killing 200k people, and now there are forcing certain anti depressants to do exactly the same. Stop trusting the pharma industry as long as there is capitalism in there... They want money, not make you healthy!
How about "because I just dont want it YET" How about "I'd like to wait and see the long term effects it has on other people" is that a stupid answer?
What previous vaccines have had negative side effects completely hidden until 2+ years after administration?
I'd say no. It's okay to wait, but don't wait too long. Get it within the next 6 months
@@spacetoast7783 uhh the one that provide immunity and are not mandated ?
The long-term effect is that it slowly fades away, how shocking!
@@spacetoast7783 Well they don't because they've been tested, the ones that had side effects were fixed