Ginette Neveu - Chausson Poème (studio recording in 1946)
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- Ginette Neveu plays Poeme by Ernest Chausson.
London Philharmonia Orchestra conducted by Issay Alexandrovich Dobroven.
Rec. 1946
This is the recording of Neveu's Poeme that we know least. We know the famous one, live with Charles Münch. I lived my childhood listening to this recording every time, he is better to my hear than her performance with Münch in 1949.
Both, Ferras and Neveu left memorable performances, which should be forever with us and a chalange for other violinists. Ferras in Sibelius' violin concerto movement 2 is an one time performance that even himself could not repeat; it happens rarely when emotions meet that particular moment.
Peter Haramis Ginette est la meilleure !
@@elisabethaffre3321 En effet. Ferras est excellent, mais Ginette Neveu est une classe à part. Elle n'a pas de concurrence.
It's takes maturity . This music is not for an easy listen and it has so much that is difficult on the violin . It feels like a journey ! That last passage with changing harmonies and the trills is unforgettable ! There is a small film showing Neveu in this music : it too is a treasure !
I remember stumbling upon this CD back in the 90's, at the media library, in France. I borrowed it, out of sheer curiosity and having no clear expectations.
What a shock it was.
This is one of the most intensely moving pieces ever written. Why does it seem that so few people aside from violinists appreciate it? Have always been so in love with this piece.
Very hard for conductors.:)))
Cellist here :)
To the average person this music is nothing more than background noise from an old black and white movie.
@@avelinaosborne32 it's tragic that people think like this. It isn't just strings players, as a pianist I find this piece absolutely captivating!
One of the most beautiful piece ever written .
May we never forget this lovely girl.
"lovely girl", hm, well, let's say immense artist. For me, the greatest violinist ever.
J'ai cliqué sur tant de vidéos liées, à travers tant de paysages insolites, incroyables et étranges.. Je me sens comme dans un compartiment sur un chemin de fer, à admirer une succession de scènes folles jamais vues auparavant, des musiques importantes et étranges à travers la fenêtre du wagon... il y a tant de choses à explorer, tellement d'endroits où se poser puis rester dans les ambiances proposées. Cet arrêt en particulier est brillant 👍
Thank you for posting this. Incredible musicianship.
Gracias a que han puesto éstas grabaciones de Ginette Neveu he vivido el placer de apreciar un diamante tocando una joya ( un Stradivarius) Que pena que el destino nos haya arrebatado semejante artista a la temprana edad de 30 años. Gracias a los encargados de colacar sus grabaciones. Realmente es una de las grandes del siglo XX. Francisco
Amazing how this 1946 recording doesn't sound dated at all; at least as far as the playing of the soloist is involved. Ms. Neveu sounds surprisingly modern!
What a wonderful performance !
Thank you so much for sharing it.
Hauntingly beautiful.
Nádherné!
Obrovský talent tragicky zahynul v najkrajších rokoch.R.I.P.
Bravo!Anika.
더할나위없이 아름다운 곡!!!
그곡에 걸맞는 탁월한 연주.
감사합니다!
I have always loved the mesmerizing, mystical sound of this unique violinist. I just wish that, in this magnificent interpretation, the orchestra were less loud, it probably has to do with the recording...
Que preciosidad, gran categoría tocando!!.
Que nos espere muchos años, allí donde este.
Con esta bella obra, siempre quedará en el recuerdo.
Buenas tardes.🌿💝🌿
Cette dame était la tante de mon grand père. Il nous à confié qu'il passait des heures à la regarder jouer, émerveillé. Chose qu'elle à su lui transmettre avec brillot. Sa musique est sublime
Vous êtes béni d'avoir eu le bonheur et la chance de compter dans votre proche famille une telle artiste, quelle perte immense, elle était si talentueuse et si belle, heureusement que nous pouvons la réécouter, j'adore Ginette NEVEU, elle est Unique, ne l'oublions jamais.
Elle était aussi la meilleure amie de ma grand mère, le monde est si grand et si petit ♥ elles ont joué ensemble en Allemagne avant la stéréo ....
Ma mère qui était une altiste professionnelle adorait Ginette Neveu....j'en ai entendu souvent parler à la maison... Elle a un très beau son je trouve....hélas carrière trop courte quel dommage...quelle belle œuvre que celle de Chausson ..
Domage que elle est morte si jeune
Ars longa vita brevis, Ginette Neveu was so moving, simply divine. If you look for the record, it is on EMI ALP 1520
Best violinist I know of.
Have nothing more to say. She is divine.
This is revelatory to me -- I didn't know Ginette Neveu -- thank you!
She was the greatest of them all.
Me either
A favourite musician from the first encounter
Ce qui est sublime c'est Ginette Neveu et son violon, on a compris quelque chose après l'avoir entendue, un"je ne sait quoi de "miraculeux "
Это исполнение Поэмы самое изящное из всех мне известных! Великолепно! Спасибо за возможность слушать эту запись.
I miss her very much...
Died so young. . . believe her brother played the piano. Was just great!
L. Kemp her brother was her elder brother. She died aged 30. He was sitting next to her on that plane. He was 31. They were heading to New-York on tour. He was her accompanist. Always had been. A high standard and fine pianist.
It is sadly said that the bodies were so damaged (the crash on that mountain had been so tremendously violent) that they got mixed up, one being buried in place and name of the other. It took time to put it right, once the mistake was realized.
@@phebus2005 Its actually a bit worse than that. I just found out about Ginette because Im from the place where her plane crashed and my grandma told me about this plane crash that happened when my grandma was younger. She told me that after the crash some locals went on the mountain where the plane crashed and started robbing the corpses of everything of value including cutting their fingers off to get their rings etc... She also told me that her father helped carry the corpses to a church, and he said that there were so many body pieces all over the place that he needed to cover his nose because of the terrible smell, He carried mostly body parts down the mountain to church, and in church they tried their best to put the corpses back together like a puzzle and many of them may have gotten someone elses arm or leg etc... It was quite the tragedy...
Killed in an accident. Terribly tragic.
@@callmeleo9343 What a tragedy… beyond measure.
Cette musique est merveilleuse et difficile à supporter. De toute facon (cédille), elle me touche profondément. Merci!
Remembering GINETTE NEVEU, who died on this day in 1949.
George Enescu told her he had nothing to teach her: you already have it all!
brilliant, ontroerende schoonheid en perfectie
Hello
Il est vrai que c'es tErnest Chausson qui a composé ce poème mais c'est Ginette Neveu qui l'a créé. Une interprétation inoubliable!
+Azatcan Iskender D'accord, Aztacan!
NON. L'œuvre date de 1896 et Ginette Neveu est née en 1919. Sauf erreur, c'est Eugène Ysaÿe qui a créé ce chef d'œuvre.
Jean-Daniel MARTINO Je pense que la personne voulait dire que la véritable naissance de cette œuvre (sa création, au sens fort du mot), on la doit à Ginette Neveu. On pourrait dire que c’est Ysaÿe qui a créé l’œuvre, et mademoiselle Neveu qui l’a révélée. Bien des chefs-d’œuvre n’ont donc pas encore livré leur message, dans ce cas. Le concerto de Brahms, sans Ginette, je ne sais pas si je l’écouterais aussi souvent.
Totally agree. Absolutely magnificent!
@@phebus2005 C'est très ... facile ... de dire cela, vu que votre point de vue se limite qu'aux enregistrements, et il est vrai que Neveu en a fait un des premiers enregistrements. Mais l'oeuvre a existé avant elle. Qui sait comment Ysaÿe par exemple a joué l'oeuvre? On retrouve également des enregistrements 'pré-Neveu' de Jacques Thibaut ou George Enescu...
So very expressive
It's really superb playing and interpretation.
Arh so beautiful!
zo briliant, krachtig en verfijnd, goddelijke muziek!
HERMOSISIMO!!!!
BUENAS TARDES🌿
On a l'impression de vivre les quatre saisons en l'espace d'un mouvement d'archer !
Beautiful recording, but it's really unfortunate that the orchestra covered her at the measure before the first Animato in 6/8. That is a crucial spot for the soloist and they just smothered her.
One "like" is not enough.
but a lifetime of listening to it is more than enough
"Those whom the Gods love die young "🙏
Bravissimo!!!!......
Magnifique…. Émouvante
Wau !!!!!!👍👍👏👏❤️❤️👍👍
I grew up with Paul paray and the Detroit Symphony and Cesar Franck's sole symphony. This is redolent! Merci!
Neveu and Ferras the top violinists ever. Too bad they passed on early. Ginette in airplane accident and Christian Ferras took his life.
I had never heard of Ferras. Such warmth! Thank you :)
+Peter Haramis I totally agree: Neveu and Ferras .Chausson! Life is short, the Art is long!
Ferras is a revelation, I agree.
The composer died at age 44 when he crashed into a wall on his bicycle.
How is she the top violinist ever?
Me encantó como toca!!!
Esta grabación es importantisima......pero sugiero que pongáis sobre todo el "video" donde se puede contemplar a Ginette, Este video es "maravilloso" sobre todo hacia la parte final del Poeme. Ginette clava su mirada al director completamente fuera de este mundo.....es de las cosas mas bellas que he contemplado en esta vida!!!!!
Meravigliosa ❤
une des plus grandes artistes du 20e siècle, ces femmes que l'on aurait aimé voir prendre les devants de la scène avec Heifetz, Oistrakh et Menuhin. Et pourtant, tout comme Jacqueline Du Pré, la mort l'a fauchée beaucoup trop tôt. Un destin de femme?
Une flamme, un flambeau, une véritable torche brillât consumant tout l’oxygène dans la salle, comme un papillon de nuit éblouissant!
Very tragic early loss of two great female artists. But men die younger than women, have more fatal accidents and constitute most occupational fatalities
Magistral interpretación .
07:10 😍
Oui, cette merveilleuse violoniste est morte trop tôt, dans le même accident d'avion que Marcel Cerdan dont la mort a fait la une de tous les journaux, (avec. un simple entre-filet pour Ginette Neveu ),
En ce bas-monde le Sport étant plus plus important que la musique !!!!
Tout d'accord avec vous. Estce-que ,ce que vous appelez "notre" monde peut tomber encore plus bas ?, Je crains que oui.. Geneviève Bauer
oui, hélas c'est bien vrai....mais on ne peut pas trop en vouloir aux gens; pouvoir apprécier certains artistes et certaine musique, comme celle-ci si belle de Chausson est aussi le fait d'une éducation reçue... c'est infiniment trop raffiné pour la plupart des personnes qui reçoivent bien peu comme culture, musicale en particulier, encore aujourd'hui.
Je ne suis pas d'accord, ou alors que très peu. La musique dépasse de très loin les clivages sociaux. C'est une affaire de sensibilité, et l'éducation permet seulement de découvrir mais pas de savoir apprécier. C'est pour ça d'ailleurs qu'on a cette ambiance bien prout prout dans beaucoup de concerts de musique classique alors que l'intensité donne envie parfois de se lever de son fauteuil.
Et ces mêmes pseudos amateurs vont mettre la musique classique au-dessus du reste alors que c'est une aberration. Il n'y pas de hiérarchie dans la musique, bien que de la merde on en trouve trop (et qu'on se le dise, il y a beaucoup d'oeuvres de grands compositeurs qui sont ennuyeuses !).
Or ceux qui ont une vraie sensibilité musicale et savent apprécier la beauté du poème de Chausson en assistant à une représentation salle Pleyel devraient prendre tout autant leur pied en assistant à un concert de Pink Floyd ou avec un set live de musique électronique (là encore il faut trier, écoutez cette merveille par exemple czcams.com/video/TMXRci8bjPs/video.html )
@@aShtk85 Vous écrivez ce que je voulais écrire, merci donc de m'éviter de le faire :-). Je partage votre point de vue de bout en bout.
Divine
Excelente violin
divine.....what a sensibility ! she sings....balance with the orchestra perhaps not so good... sometimes it covers a little i think
Mimi Prades well probably monaural one microphone so hard to talk about absolutes and perhaps the hall projection was better than unidirectional microphone conveyed?
Bravissimo Petrof4056, ottima scelta!
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷
Recorded 8/18/1946
♥️♥️♥️
A very great violinist and musician whos talent is only hinted at by the few recording we have of her playing.
渡辺茂夫さんを聞いているうちに彼女に辿り着きました。
Écouter ça ou mourir un peu.....
Ginette fue una magnífica violinista, muerta prematuramente en un fatídico accidente.
Fulgurante, inspirée ... le paroxysme dans toute sa splendeur. Quelle perte que la disparition de cette artiste !
Une nouvelle symphonie du nouveau monde. Peut-être , ?
I was talking about the famous live radio recording of the Brahms Concerto. How did my comment get to Chausson's Poeme? Must be the Quantum world.
Like most of live recordings with orchestra she made, there is not really good sound balance. I suspect she was using her Guadgnini because of it's greater responsiveness, but less power and decible level. Her Stradavarius, though an Omobono, was still made by a Stradavari, It should like most, if not all live performances,be edited with modern stereo multitrack. I'm sure all the critics of her playing will eat their words
Lol, nice one ;)
¿.. Porque tantos NO Me GUSTA???!!! Que tiene que objetar la expresión
ABSURDA e totalmente injustificada ,es una joya musical atraves de los años ,de los continentes y de las razas o religiones ???dr. R. L. Savoi o02/08/2016¡.-
pas assez diffuser
pas assez diffusé
Non. Celle du "Bout du Monde " ......
Why don't they have the entire video of her live in Prague?. Is it because of her "odd, androgenous appearance" or maybe some clues that led to her"accident" are in that video? (Planned years in advance)?
Hi Penelope. Did you know she and my father (Giorgio Ciompi) went to the Paris Conservatory at the same time? (studied with Boucherit) and then, later, both studied with Enescu?? They knew each other well and both won the Premier Prix. It's nice to see your comments everywhere! I have photos of them in class---both impossibly young...
@@maxreger100 I was at Duke University in the mid-sixties and was fortunate to have heard a number of performances by the Ciompi Quartet. I also had Julia Mueller as my music appreciation course professor at Duke. These experiences deeply enriched my otherwise science-oriented undergraduate education.
@@TheSoundman60 thanks for sharing that lovely memory. My dad was so happy during his 20 years at Duke!
It is always disappointing to read comments calling her "That man sure plays well." "Nice dress on that man" my favorite:"Jimmy Fallon's talented uncle ". They did it with President Obama"s birth certificate:Why not Ginette Neveu"s birth certificate. Not even Erica Morini or any modern ANYONE can touch or even come close(I'm prejudiced though.)to her.
Another case in point: Francis Poulenc, a gay, devout Christian.
четыре бездарности поставили плохо, как мне их ЖАЛЬ!
A wonderful artist, beating the jewish violin marfia at their own game. Go figure, Christian, Lesbian and a fine violinist, how is this possible?
Maybe the most sensitive people are out of the mainstream; NOT heterosexual, not acquisitive, not balanced, not happy. But their souls can soar above it all.! (Christian Ferras) I assume Chausson was Christian, as was Ferras. Religiosity and SEXUALITY have VERY MUCH to do with one's deepest feelings.
Who the **** told you she was lesbian? I can't stand when great artists are treated in a fashion as to bend their biography towards modern societal ideals. Note: I do not discriminate based on gender AT ALL, I just hate when someone is labeled something they are not without the ability to protest it is like me saying you are Irish after you die without bothering to find out if you are, what's the point? You won't protest so I can just declare anything out of the blue. This is your logic it appears.
@@samuelallan7452 Agreed. Her features were a little on the masculine side but I think she was a lovely girl. I'm just curious how one assumes she was gay. Is this confirmed testimony 🐯