Will Low Sensitivity Make You A Better Player?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2022
- There’s nothing quite as important as sensitivity.
But there are essentially two types of players in the FPS world. There are those who play with high sens and others who play with low sens.
Some high sensitivity superstars have made a name for themselves because of their freakish flicks and snappy spraydowns. While others have managed to crack the code of popping heads with some of the lowest sensitivities in esports.
On this week’s episode we’re taking a look at some of the best players to ever play on low sens. Why do they do it, how do they do it, and are they holding themselves back by playing on such a sluggish sensitivity?
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Sensitivity affects your margin of error. The lower your sens, the less likely you are to make a mistake. The tradeoff is your ability to react quickly. Pro players are very experienced, so they're more likely to be looking at the right place at the right time, and prioritize minimizing errors
@@ac0unt_un04 they play with large mousepads and use their full arm to make broad movements, instead of just their wrist
@@ac0unt_un04 what kind of question is this lol, just they move hella fast
Doesnt lower sens also filter out small movements that would actually make you hit better ?
@@Revament Well small movements at low sens don't affect your aim as much as high sensitivity so you will hopefully still be on target with small errors.
@@Revament In practice, it's the opposite. The lower your sensitivity is, the more finely tuned and precise every mouse movement becomes. If you are just getting used to low sensitivity, you may feel as though you are less precise, because you cannot rely on small wrist movements to cover the in-game distances you used to be able to. Once your muscle memory adjusts to the new sensitivity, you will strike a new balance between arm aim and wrist adjustment, and become much more consistent than previously. The lower you go, the less likely you are to overshoot your target. This is especially true of long range engagements, which require very precise aim relative to close range engagements.
(With older games low DPIs would sometimes introduce "pixel skipping" , but in modern games, with modern mice, this is no longer an issue)
Just a recap for people who use "EDPI" to measure sensitivity: it is *not a universal method* to measure sensitivity across different games as the sensitivity scale within said games may vary and be *drastically different.* 320 EDPI in Valorant would be considered 1017.6 EDPI in CS:GO even when they're actually the *same speed* (feeling might vary because both games use different FOV scaling).
A method to universally measure sensitivity is to use cm/360 (how many centimeters it takes for you to do a 360). This can *easily* be done by using an online sensitivity converter (Yep, you don't need a ruler).
As an example (with 800 DPI), .4 sensitivity in Valorant and 1.273 in CS:GO would take approximately 40.82 centimeters of movement to do one 360° turn in-game.
It also brings up the fact that every game has a preferred sensitivity range. Fast-paced shooters with *high TTK* (Time to Kill) like Apex Legends and Fortnite *require more tracking and movement* which in turn means a *higher sensitivity* would be *optimal.* This applies less to Tactical FPS games with *low TTK* like Counter Strike and Valorant because they *require less tracking* and kills moreso *depend on hitting the initial flick.*
Of course, there will always be those who are more comfortable on a sens out of the "optimal range" but it is of your best interests to give them a try.
Final Note: There are some factors that play into how your sensitivity may feel (I say feel because not everything is 1:1). Your resolution, FOV (Field of View), and even your monitor length may change how fast or slow your sensitivity feels in hand. Generally, the wider your monitor, the slower your sens feels. Do keep in mind that even if your sensitivity may *feel* slower, it is still going to be moving at its set cm/360.
I play 800dpi 0.4 Valorant, 1.27 CS. Same sens, not sure where you're getting .636 from...
@@Chris-gj7uy My bad, it was .636 for 1600 DPI, I'll correct it
I just watched leaf's sensitivity and was shocked about 148edpi when I have 400edpi. Then I tried sensitivity converter and my edpi on valorant would actually be 126...
You should mention that different Resolution give different Sense too.
@@thanhlinhtrieunguyen1998 added
Man my whole life as a controller gamer I've been used to high sens. Even when I transferred to MnK it became a habit. But after watching my gameplay I noticed my aim being a little erratic and I overshot a lot/overcompensated for recoil. Been working on lowering my sens but still haven't noticed much of a performance difference.
Edit: Forgot to mention I play more casual shooters like Battlefield, Payday 2, etc
Just wanted to say when I first started pc I was the same way. I was playing on disgusting like 3000 dpi and now I am at 1100 which has been amazing for me I think I reached my best spot.
Keep playing and one day your improvement will explode. You'll go from zero to 100 times better. It just takes a bit for your body and mind to click
try setting your sens to a value where you move your mouse from one end to your mousepad to the other to do a 360 degree turn in-game (180 for games like csgo and valorant), that has been working well for me for years now
@@InfamousRebel2003 same, I was at 3200 dpi and had a crappy mice. Then I got a better setup and switched to 1600.
I want to go lower down to 800 but I just don't have the space.
Having a high sense after swapping from roller is super common, it happens all the time in apex. For example, Skittle cakes who plays for optic swapped inputs within the past year and runs like 1600dpi with like a 3 sense.
Can confirm copying tenz sens does get you 1 tapped by a flying jett
Tenz omg
I play tariks .471 and have no problem with flying jetts I am more likely to kill them flying than on the ground lol.
@@DarkEgos wait what is his mouse dpi and edpi?
@@joebidengaming8274 800dpi .471 wanna say g pro but changes
Any Quake player > t0nz
I remember playing CS 1.6 on the default 10 sensitivity with your generic Logitech office mouse and was an absolute demon. Able to do 720's/1080's in a single flick. Then I turned down my sens bc all the pros were on low sens. Upon acclimation I was immediately more consistent. My bad days weren't as bad, like for instance, if I didn't get much sleep, just ate, or ate like shit that day+dehydration, I wouldn't be a walking dumpster fire of a player. I wouldn't be great, but I wouldn't look like a spastic AI.
The only issue I have with it is I can no longer do frame perfect insane flicks. Sure my flicks are a little more consistent, but they are not nearly as flashy/aimlocky. It also made it where I can no longer fight threats on 4 sides of me AS comfortably as before :( I can, it just takes more time because of lifting the mouse and what not. I'm contemplating turning the sens up in order to get the ability to 360 comfortably again, as I sure do miss walking into a room, 1 tapping someone, then doing a 180/240 to fight someone on a different angle without needing to pick up the mouse
try custom mouse acceleration such as "raw accel" you won't regret it.
takes 4x longer for muscle memory to develop, nonlinear acceleration isn’t helpful in a game like csgo
@@1ute n0ted uses an instant accel curve, where it instantly jumps to like double the sens after a specific speed. But I'm 90% sure he's been playing with that for well over 3 years. It's not something the average gamer could pick up and have success with. I had a friend who swore by mouse accel, but after less than a week of turning it off he was performing more consistently. I agree, accel is so much harder to get used to than not using it
Lowering my sens from .435 to .3 (800 dpi) made me so much better it’s actually insane. The extra control and ability to properly place my crosshair on heads without it shaking about has been the biggest difference in my performance and improvement in Valo.
If anyone feels like they’re missing their shots just by a tiny bit, then I definitely recommend lowering your sens. That being said tho there’s amazing players who play super high sens, like PRX Forsaken
@@GopherManlet “that low” that’s not extremely low like at all. The average edpi for pros is 277 which is .35 at 800, and he’s at .3, that’s not “that low”
@@GopherManlet That's absolute nonsense. TenZ plays also 0.3 at 800DPI and he def. has great dexterity and there are Pros (mainly Sentinels or Controllers), who play even much lower. I play 0.175 on 800DPI (140 eDPI) and with that it's nearly impossible to lose a gunfight on high range.
Low sensitivity movement was heavily influenced by cs/csgo, where you need few angles. But what i don't usually hear mentioned is how low-sensitivy pairs with high fov.
It pairs fine, but it's also counter productive. Low sens gives you greater fine control over your exact crosshair placement. High FOV bunches up the stuff in the centre of the screen into a tighter package and reduces the seperation between areas. Most CS pros actually reduce their FOV to focus even more on the space around their crosshair, by playing in a stretched 4:3 resolution, or something else boxier than a 16:9. Because they're less concerned about their peripherals: if you're shot from your peripherals, you should have cleared that angle, or known that it was open and someone could be moving in there.
High FOV allows you to see threats from many directions, and is really important when moving quickly and in games where you can be attacked from all angles easily like arena shooters, deathmatch, BRs. A lot less so in CS, where seeing someone who is approaching me almost 90 degrees from your crosshair is not important: if they're approaching from there they will see you before you see them and they will shoot first.
I've always thought that I need to flick faster or turn 180 faster, but I've slowly gone down to a sens that I can say give me the best control without being too slow, allowing me to 180 just fine. Low sens gives me a lot more control and I can improve a lot faster when supplementing it with aim training than if I were to be on high sens.
I have tried a lot of different sensitivities on csgo.. I have found that my peak is maybe higher with a higher sens but with a lower sens I am much more consistent. I try to mimic gameplay after twistzz and B1t so right now im at 1.42 at 400dpi. Will stick with this for a while most likely. Don't play val, but if i did I would probably go a little higher.
I tried going with high sens (800 dpi 2.2) and i used to play a pretty low sens (400 dpi 0.6), but i found a middle ground that was a hard to keep honestly because i kept wanting to go with a higher sens to avoid ankward wrist positions, but i ended up sticking with it, and it's the one i'm using currently : 800, 1.2 sens.
@@sRichterMusic i remember getting the original razer naga and high DPI was a selling point. I was playing at 3600dpi(i think but in the 3k range) and dominating lobbies on TF2 as sniper. But playing scout was impossible till i learned sensitivity in game and dpi are different xD
@@sRichterMusic high? im using 5.17 1000dpi and can't go back lol
@@Lishwimp yeah no with raw input 5k+ edpi is just straight up unplayable so idk how you play with that, woxic plays with 2.4k edpi and it's consideres super high so it's kinda hard to believe haha
I play at 3.2 sens 800dpi in csgo and was wayyyy more precise with my aim but I play better with a higher sens
2.3 1600 dpi
The best sensitivity is the one where you don't think about your aim and still perform. In essence I think the sensitivity that's lowest for consistent microficks and tracking is more important than something that will let you DM well. a lot of people make the mistake of thinking they need a higher sensitivity because of death match. (obviously from a tac shooter pov)
800dpi @ 1.00 most balanced for me, good movement and good aim while not being too much or too little
Agreed, it's actually my big problem with DM. It can produce some bad habits. 16:9 is going to be more useful than 4:3 in DM, holding W works in DM, and you need to fight in numerous directions at once that doesn't really represent a match.
Low sens players have way more control in their aim. I feel high sens is more for wrist aiming and more flashy plays, while the low sens is for consistency. Like he said, even though low sens is slow, it is still open to amazing flicks that are way more consistent.
Mouse acceleration is for both, and low sens players will never have as much control with their aim because of it, or at least I've never seen a goofy low sens player be nearly as good as me.
mouse weight affects control too tho. a high sense can easily be controlled with a heavier mouse
@@AsianCole very true, but the scale of how much the weight of your mouse affects your control is also dependent upon the friction between your mouse and your mousepad/play surface.
@@AmiciCherno nice which major tournaments did you win?
Lower sens train precise arm movement
Higher sens train precise fingers tips+wrist movement
Best aimers in the world utilize all parts equally.
Arm for huge swipes and tracking long strafes, finger tips for micro adjustment, wrist for precise tracking.
Depends on what you feel you are lacking atm adjust your sens to 20%-30% higher or lower of your current sens is the fastest way to see results.
After a while of playing around with different sens you'll most likely start feeling for a "natural" sen that feels just right.
legit advice.
Low sensitivity players focus on tracking and precision! Just like me!
I always found it confusing back when I played why people would freak out cause I play on 10 sensitivity but could be super precise. It was just easy for me. I'd be playing halo 3 and just screwing around with friends on a zombies custom (when they actually noticed how i played through the death cam) they would be right on my ass, I'd whip a 180° shoot them in the head and continue running forwards. Like "how the eff does he do that!!!" Kind of thing. I didn't understand until then explained it, still don't get it though lol. I guess it's just something difficult that I got lucky and it came natural.
I play low sens but don't really do tracking or smoother movements. I still play fast and flick so really the sens doesn't really affect the aiming style all the time.
@@richardm5448 ok
@@maven6398 thanks for attending my TedTalk 👏 👏
@@raeoz3218 My crosshair placement improved significantly! Try that!
Low sense is key to consistency. Averaging 1-2 kills per round and able to hold ur position is important than able to get a quad once in a while.
I've always used lower sens and used elbow movement because I was always told by older pro gamers that wrist movement will lead to joint problems and RSI like issues. Haven't had any issues with either since I swapped. Also even back in UT04 people would swap from normal sens to higher sens for the Mini-gun to spray better. Its goofy to get used to but a fun trick.
Looked for this answer! I've had the same experience over many years, different titles and genres.
im still a wrist aimer, but i haven't really had too much problems i kinda follow what s1mple cause alot of things he does helps with the wrist i also play with a kind of high sens
Wrist and joint issues wont just pop up quickly. You'll only regret it in a few years time, but just not now.
Im palm aimer lol
I used to be a high sens gamer until I got horrible RSI, since then I've swapped to low sens and I've been doing just fine but my wrists and elbows are much happier
When I started pc gaming, mousepads used to be small and square-is AND they were a few mm thick. If you wanted to be able to flick, you had to play on high sens at our desk.
Playing counter strike every day allowed to keep pushing up the sensitivity bit by bit.
Just a few weeks ago, about 20 years later, I'm starting to practice low sensitivity valorant.
Low sen valorant changed everything for me. Never knew its what I needed
@@mikalmikul1 what sens are you running?
I used to play 4-4-22 400dpi in Siege, which yes, is super low, but it felt natural and despite that my aim was on the faster side. I've always had really fast arm movement and with the wrist I was able to micro adjust to the T. At some point I decided to try something new and went up by quite a lot, for example 12-12-25 or 35 and my aim has become a lot more "shaky" but it still feels nice, now when I'm low energy I can still perform which is something I used to struggle with.
In the very end it really comes down to a ridiculous amount of Trial and Error and commitment to something. Like learning a new language or playing an instrument. As long as you enjoy it you are on the right path!
A fellow low sense player. I play 3-3 and 1to1 for scopes and it has always worked for me. 400 dpi ofc. And yes 100 percent if I’m staying up for 24 hours my aim will just disappear cause my arm needs rest
I use 45-45 1600 dpi and 50 standard ads in r6 💀
my theory is that depends on what your mouse set up used to when you played fps for the first and longest time. I played on a set up and pc bangs with a classic mousepad used in the office or your school where you can touch a person's elbow next to you
same. so i always had a somewhat high sensitivity. for valorant i go on 1600 dpi 0.35 sens
I was the same way, since those days I’ve gotten my own pc and desk that allowed me to lower my sens, but there’s definitely advantages to both. Nowadays it depends on the game but my general rule is I want to be able to 180 reliably with a quick flick of my elbow (about 5 inches of mouse movement)
I played Roblox phantom forces with an apple Magic Mouse 💀
dimitri and the editor guy is a deadly duo lol awesome video
I think that old players like me are more used to unstable sensitivities,all because back then we all played games in internet cafes and not only cs,but also a lot of Arena like HL:DM. Usually the mouse in every computer was different,and they all had high sens!
The ideal is to train your mouse control to be good with all sensitivity ranges. High sens to train smoothness and wrist/finger control, low sens to train arm speed.
And this doesn’t necessarily have to be the same game. As they said, my cm/360 in siege is not the same as in Valorant, which isn’t the same in apex. In Valorant, low sens has made me much better, whereas that isn’t the case in siege or apex.
My EDPI would definitely be considered on the low end. When they talked about Michu, my edpi in csgo is 2 less than him, practically the same. In Valorant my edpi translates roughly over to 119. Val is my main game right now and I'm getting close to Diamond. Nothing crazy to boast about, but it's climbed me to a rank higher than I probably would have gotten on a higher sens just because arm aiming is so much easier for me.
Edit: The Valorant edpi I listed is there without the conversions for the 1 to 1 measurements between games. Think just a little bit lower than Leaf's 148 val edpi, as mine is 119 in val without making the chanegs
My man are you playing on a dining table
imagine using 2 EDPI on csgo, my man is using his whole town roadways as his mousepad
@@oger3225 Rockin a large mousepad and had to switch to a 60% keyboard just to get that little bit of extra space for myself lol
If it works it works
I’ve played anywhere from 20-40cm for extended periods of time, I can play around 20-30 for months upon months but whenever I go back to 40+ I see improvement in my tracking, flicking, everything within minutes. I’ve seen a lot of people crazy in 20-30cm range though.
Sensitivity is definitely 100% preference, you aren’t going to find your favorite player’s settings and peripherals and just be able to aim like them so I recommend finding a sens you find comfortable between 20-50cm and you can’t go wrong, you can definitely play upwards of 70cm though if you have a huge desk pad
18:23 they way he smiles after his clip was played ... he was happy and proud 😆
3:07 to SEE vox in the background... for some reason 🤣
You have to play it at the sens which suits you the most, you have to find that out for yourself. I tried using a sens similar to niko's sens but it felt like a snail's sens to me. I tried using s1mple's sens and it still feels somewhat slow for me.
I am very much at home with my 400dpi 3.477 sens and my aim is better than ever.
i feel that, i kept trying to copy 100TAsuna in valorant, at 1400 and 0.3, meanwhile the current sensitivity i use and what got me from silver 3 to diamond 2 is 3200 0.5
2.0 and 1600 :)
For most people a lower sens will do them good, but it takes a while to get used to using ur arm and different muscles but once you learn it you will be able to move around fast even with a low sens just have to keep playing it could take a week or two depending on how much you practise and play, can't just switch and instantly expect to own with that sensitivity specially when ur coming from a high sens
@@andr-dh3qf they say "your sens should fit you and not the other way around" so i went by that. I did try to get good on a lower sens, a much lower sens in fact, but i just can't seem to get the point of why i would need to get good with it when i am already better at a higher sens.
@@wolf_9626 Who said you should get good at a lower sens? I just said generally people play better on the lower side once they get used to it. But if you took the time to try and get used to low sens and it didnt work for you fair enough, also ur sens is not crazy high its high for CS and Val standards but i'm mostly taking about people who play on ridiculously high sens and think they will never be able to control a lower sensitivity cuz they dont take the time to learn it
Back when call of duty blackout was the new cod game, I played with a low sensitivity on xbox and my friend played with high sensitivity. His reasoning was that he didn't want to not be able to 180 and kill someone behind him, or be able to flick shoot someone in a doorway when entering the room. Mean while, me with low sensitivity just played in a way where nobody ever got behind me, and I never entered doorways that I shouldn't. It changes how you play and eventually how you think about any given engagement.
Here is why low sens has some correlation to skill level. As skill level( Understanding of the game ) grows, people tend to go with low res. This happened with me too. I used to play 1.6, with 4 sensitivity on normal 800 dpi. This was when I was a teen like 16 to 17 when I was peak performing. Aiming was the game for me. As I learnt the game even more I started lowering my sens at some point I was using 1.2 sens!. It shows that you know tge game and are calm at decisions. Also avoids the over movement in aim. This may not be the case for ~20% of the players who use high sens.
Doesn’t matter what sens you use as long as it’s good for you…you see some of the best using high and low sens…I use the same sens in any game I play to stay consistent and that has made me good at any game I play because I have the muscle memory built…
I've had a friend constantly telling me to lower sensitivity. I used to play with really high sensitivity, but I've gradually started lowering it at my friend's request and some days I'm absolutely cracked while others make me want to undo all my changes because it's going so poorly. Innate mouse DPI of 1600 and I've only adjusted sens in-game, specifically Valorant where I started at 1.1 and have dropped to somewhere around .73 or something like that
Bro ur sens is so high what the
bro you must be a fucking surgeon to hit anything
You're still playing on an absurdly high sensitivity regardless of if you have dropped it a bit. Expect inconsistency
i like these sensitivity/setting videos for tac shooters. Actually any tac shooter vids are cool
4:06 VOX AKUMA
Cross hair placement isn't talked about enough, forget your sens, like literally forget about it and just focus on the dot on the screen, don't look away to look at other things happening, move that cross hair where you want to look. My quality of life improved once I focused on fundamentals and not sens. Idk maybe I'm whack...
bro has an ina poster 👍👍
I think an thing people dont think about, is forearm lenght, some people just have a bit shorter arms, and therefore they might be better with a slight higher sens, also posture, how they sit and so on, not just mousepad and desk size.
Exactly, if your desk is high and mouse above your elbow, then some point of your forearm will be anchored to the edge of desk, and you can only be wrist aimer. But if you mouse is below your elbow, then it's easy for you to move your arm around, hence arm aimer.
I come from COD on consoles and used to play at max sens due to the joystick lmitation. When I switched to PC and was still playing COD I kept my high sensitivity to be able to 180 within no time. I don't play this anymore but I kept my high sens due to the fact I've been using it for so long and I use programs to convert my sensitivity to other games. I play 1 000 DPI at 0.79 sens on Valorant
I think its whatever is comfortable for people I've always loved high sens even on console when I use to play cod I was always max sens and rn on pc when playing any shooter whether its val or cs or r6 I play at 3000 dpi I know thats absurdly high but I've known how to control that so easily vs low sense where I feel like I'm breaking my wrist more than my 3k dpi lmao. I'm not even bad at the games either I'm mge on cs and diamond 1 on Val and I've never changed my sens in game or my dpi. So imo it's whatever people are comfortable with I agree with starting off on low sens tho
with low sensitivity you have to move your forearm to turn the camera and once you are on target, correct your aim with your wrist.
My csgo setting is around 1.3-1.7 with a dpi of 1800 for a long time, didn't think it was high till I looked up the sens of "high sens" csgo players like S1mple.
Damn I used to play 1600 1.1 sens but now I'm trying to acclimatise to 1600 0.9 already feel that my aim is slightly better.. not sure I can go lower though I may try 0.8.
@@adeelali8417 use that arm too, not just ur wrist, u can go down way more.
I use mid sens because i play all fps games haha. This sens is kinda suitable for all games, i tried to mimic S1mple’s sens but higher a bit.
Its all muscle memory, low sens seems to have easier/safer aim (when you dont need to move the mouse a lot). High sens like Woxic, he is used to this sens. The acc is much lower but i think aim/miss ratio is higher, IF you are used to the high sens.
Muscle memory has nothing to do with aim tf you on about kid
Really cool episode.
Halo was my first ever shooter that I really got into, and one thing Halo instinctively teaches is, accuracy over speed
Be it the higher general health or class of weapons that can one shot headshot
When I started playing other games, I kept playing with low sensitivity that Halo had taught me to utilize
And eventually, as I played cod and especially siege, I started learning my weaknesses of using lower sensitivity, and rather than change it, I changed how I play
I was always more of a strategic thinker rather than an aimbotter, so I started playing around my lower sensitivity with, planning ahead, prioritizing weapons that are great at range, utilizing the tools I have to cover any weaknesses, like proximity alarms in siege to give me heads up ahead of time, so I have time to react
Find your comfortable place, and learn to play around it, it'll be more fulfilling in the long run instead of changing it every couple months
I play FPS games for 2 decades already and I found out that fast paced games like COD, Fortnite, Unreal Tournament, Apex Legends, ... require higher sensitivity than slow paced games like Valorant, CS:GO, PUBG, Rainbow Six: Siege, Escape from Tarkov, ...
So the basic rule is: Run and gun games need higher sensitivity than games that require you to be very precise with your shots.
I havent played fps games in years! Recently found out 0.43 sen changed my gameplay completely. Feels weird as I used to play higher sen when I was younger
14:35 thats a mighty fine 'stache you got there my good sir 😊👍🏾 lol
Low sens is free precision. High sens is free reactivity. Depends entirely on the game you're playing. Fast TTK favours low sens ie csgo, val, etc. Slow TTK favours mid-high sens FN, Apex, etc. Tracking based games favour high sens. Click timing based games favour low sens. There will always be anomalies within this rule. Sensitivity doesn't matter at all (if you stay between 14cm/rev to 50cm/rev).
50cm/360 is still kinda high lmao.
@@thishandleistaken1011 Moving your hand half a metre in order to complete a 360 in-game is high?
@@asura7393 i play on 90
@@asura7393 half a meter isn't very much.
@@thishandleistaken1011 No that's just ridiculously low.
I used to play with a dpi of 3200 and got to LEM in CS GO. I recently lowered this to 2000 and got onyx in halo infinite. Anything lower than 2000 feels too heavy for me. Hearing the people play on 800 or even 1000 for that matter blows my mind if I'm being honest
same but other way around, anything above 1200 for me is absolutely ridiculous
Has anyone tried using both lows sens and high sens together, with the use of the mouse feature "sniper button"? Where when you hold the sniper button the dpi changes. So a lows sens player can use the sniper button to boost the dpi for large movements, like turning 90 to 270 degrees. So you get the easier accuracy of low sens and the turning speed of high sens.
When I started playing Valorant, I was on 0.4 800dpi and 1.0 ADS, now I'm on 0.2 800dpi and 1.1 ADS. Sure, there are times where I run out of desk space and die, but having a lower sensitivity has made me have a way better game sense and crosshair placement to compensate for not being able to flick.
Could you elaborate on the "lower sens gives me better game sense" part? How does sensitivity have anything to do with gamesense?
@@Elias-xk5ek I explain it in the second part, I can't flick without swiping through my entire desk, so I have to pre-aim at places where I think the enemy will be rather than just aimlessly running around. That, with good crosshair placement at head level means I barely have to move my mouse that much, so I can play at a lower sens instead of higher
TLDR: Low sens means I can't flick, so I have to be more disciplined, check more corners, play slower, etc
I play around 800 dpi with 0.89 aim sensitivity and I'm good with that. Helps me move my hand less and doesn't stress my hands.
what rank are you in?
@@dipking1801 I just started in April and don't play much so not that good. I'm at Gold 2 now.
I used to have literally the same exact sensitivity with my old deathadder v2. Now I got a Steelseries prime wireless so I have 500 dpi and 1.03
@@dipking1801 I'm at D3 now
I think the DPI debate comes down to what you grew up with or started with as well as some people are just able to control high sens and others arent. It is a talent
exactly, especially when you throw custom mouse acceleration into the mix, I have a perfect combination of both high and low ends of the high sens spectrum.
thats the one
Being able to use high sensitivity is as much of a talent as low sensitivity, the whole 'High sens = better joints :)' trope I see commonly is whack
As someone who grew up with high sens and used it for nearly 15 years I'd say low sens is miles better. Doesn't matter how much you think you "control" high sens, you're going to be more consistent with low sens. Anything else about the DPI matter is just people being stubborn and set in their ways. People who think they're consistent with high sens have never experienced consistency.
@@SlCKNESS_ in your experience what would you say is a good range then for sens in valorant? Either edpi or sens at 800 dpi
I think one element that isn't being considered here is cross input, aka kbm players playing against controller players - this effects my decision to use low sense in a BR (WZ) as it's the only way I can track the movement of an enemy in a hairy cqc situation against a controller player
I remember playing Crossfire like a decade ago, I'm using high sens when using rifles and use low sens settings for the sniper rifles
no its just a matter of the majority i think. i play on 800 dpi, 4 sens on apex and csgo, 1.25 on valorant, 13.3 on overwatch and i reached quite a high rank (faceit level 8 cs, 4x diamond IV apex, plat 1 valorant).
because majority of people are playing on (a relatively) low sens (including the pros) doesnt mean high sens is bad. ive also seen people play with a sens even higher than mine but also much better than me
I've noticed it matter hugely on your mousepad also, i'm on 400 dpi .7 val and 2.1 in apex. I thought a lower sens would help me in val but my flickshots were just off when I went lower.
800 dpi and 4 in-game for CS is so high
Yea you should lower cs sens to 2 or lower not 4 it’s different than apex send
800 1.25 is incredibly high
Im astonish that alot of sens i thiught were low was called high.
Im used to 1.6 in game with 1600 dpi on val
And 3.5 in game with 1600 dpi in csgo
I peeked diamond 3 in val and LE in csgo
that isn't high mate, that is incredibly bloody high. The average sensitivity in CS is 400 x 2, making your sensitivity 5.25x faster than the average sensitivity. Absurd
@@jamieeddolls5605 Fr? I started off with a 2 dollar mouse from a garage sale that was stuck on 1600dpi at first then even when i switched to a gaming mouse i guess i got used to it lol plus I'm lazy so lowest effort for maximum movement lol
and well I played valorant first til i was diamond and in cs until I was MG so ig ima stick to it.
I have gone from very high to very low senses and finally found my range. I'm primarily a wrist aimer but don't want too high of a sens that relies too much and strains my wrist. So in Valorant right now I use 1300 DPI x .292 sens. I change it up from time to time but 370-415 edpi is my typical range. Something low enough to easily hit long range rifle shots and not be too inconsistent
valorant or csgo?
@@reztr1ct660 I said Valorant
@@shybzrk thats higher than me when im on crack
thats pretty high compared to most people. I would try .25
I got into pc gaming in like 2016, I never once felt like I improved since I had a high sensitivity. In 2020 I started my cs journey, 800 Dpi, 2 sensitivity. Now many years later I'm confident and accurate in every shot I take now. 800Dpi, .8 sens (niko's sens)
I went from 2800 dpi to 700 on siege. whereas in game my sens went up from 45 to 90
I used to play Valorant on 1200edpi and I saw big improvements within an hour after switching 500edpi
the stats are wrong anyways, the average valorant pro has an edpi of 277, that's still 46cm but I thin 250-500 is optimal
cm/360 > edpi because cm/360 is useful for every game.
@@Samuel-em3nc Which stats are wrong? In the video they compare Valorant and CSGO, so because of this they used a different method for calculating edpi. If you want a better explanation one of the top comments explain it perfectly.
I was not expecting Vox to be playing in the background screen of an esport video hahaha
This has made me realize that I play on a ludicrously fast sens compared to many others. 3.56 Cm/360 on Fortnite and 7.70 Cm/360 on Counter-Strike.
With CS I made my sens way slower than I usually do because I needed that extra precision, and my aim is actually pretty decent. From what I'm seeing though, it looks like most people would even consider my "slow" sens to be fast lol
From years of experimentation, I've found that having low DPI + high game sensitivity is terrible because of Pixel Skipping. It makes making smaller movements juttery and imprecise because the mouse sensor is tracking in such a low resolution.
Best is reasonable DPI (1200 to 2000) and lower your in-game sensitivity to your usual speed. Not only you're getting the benefits of low sensitivity, but you're also more precise in your finer movements.
I agree with this, great explanation! I play at 1650 dpi but lower my in game sense/fine tune it to my likings and it feels way better!
No it’s just that low sens is way easier to control than high sens. Low sens enables a higher margin of error (not as shaky).
Someone who masters high sens requires way more hard work, controlling high sens is way hard, but it also a good training for smoothness. One thing, in games that are slow such as CS or VAL low sens is a good thing because it’s not as hectic as Quake. You can’t use low sens in quake or Apex for example, and as we know, the faster it is, the harder it is.
All in all, no sens is better than the other, but high sens has a higher skill ceiling and is a better « school » as it teaches you how to be really smooth
Apex players have some pretty low sensitivities still, especially controller pros. The better comparison is quake like you mentioned, overwatch and fortnite
@@aimbtx it can’t be as low as some cs pro use, you wouldn’t be able to 180 fast enough
@@vxarea3822 yea i think the average of like 2.2 @ 400 is still usable in quake though. I would assume something like 2.8 would be average for a cs player in quake.
What I don’t hear enough is how hardware affects settings. If you’re running a system with FPS fluctuating from 30~60, you’re already slower at reacting and getting inconsistent feedback because of system limitation, you need a higher DPI to correct in time.
When I was using an old gaming laptop playing APEX I can’t go under 1700 eDPI or by the time I start tracking I would already be at half health. Now with my new PC I dropped it to 1k and it felt so much more consistent because you actually feel like smooth movements are consistent
My game changed completly from pleb to average player in Overwatch when I went to 800dpi/~5 sens from a higher sens.
Woxic definitely influenced my sens. Not to his extent but now I’m rocking a 300 dpi @5.5 sens
because it works for woxic does not mean it will work for you, he's fallen off quite a bit recently too
@@jamieeddolls5605 I know but he definitely made me more of wrist aiming player after watching his games. Also yeah he might not be doing so good rn but I still wish the best for him
The way i see it is that there isnt no perfect sensitivity. And depending on the game the range for low sens to high sens players can be drastically different. Like for example apex players typically play around 37cm/360- even 21cm/360 for the low sens to high sens. As for another game we can use CSGO. Players in CSGO tyically play from 70cm/360 all the way up to 41cm/360. When people say to play with the same sens across all games it really pisses me off. Somebody who started their first PC fps game on csgo who plays at like 70cm/360 will struggle to play apex on that sens. Now you could say he could use the wingman or snipers but what if you have to use an smg or a R3. Thats how i look at it, find out if using a lower sens or higher sens will be more beneficial for the game you wanna play.
Well said.
@@kululong thank you kind sir! I have a little over 100 hours in kovaaks so far. Im very versatile in sensitivities however, my aim is stronger in static clicking like cs or valorant more so than my tracking or target switching.
That high sens and consistency hit me. I'll move to a lower sens ig now
i thought i was a god with high sens in cod that i grew up with playing and sensitivity 3.0 in cs 1.6 with all my quickscopes as a kid, but then csgo showed me the global stage of actually competent players and i came to realize how inconsistent my aim actually was. turned my dpi down, turned my sens down to whatever fits game at around the range of 0.9-1.5 usually and while it took a few days/weeks of adjustment the results were astounding.
i now play apex and val at relatively mid-low sens and if u would compare it to my old high sens gameplay the difference is like between an amateur and a pro. for instance with my old sens, i would be mechanically a hardstuck gold, but now im reasonably getting into high diamond-low masters
When i came to CS from minecraft 5 years ago i started at such high sens ca 2600edpi (i didnt know too much about sens anyways) but have lowered it slowly over time till i found what worked for me. im now playing at 855 edpi and giong lower just doesnt work for me...i somehow cant get the spray down in lower sens.
Same with me about lower sensitivity. Past 7 years changed A LOT between 1.7 and 2.4 @400dpi. And whenever I go down 2.0 @400 dpi I seem to get lazy in aim and I don't check all the corners anymore. Also my movement seems off. Sprays are horrible to do.
Whenever I go over 2.3 it starts to get really shaky and I need a lot more DM to feel comfortable.
The worst is when you are at a sens thats almost perfect but its a bit too fast so you knock it down by like 0.001 and then it feels too slow
That's me T-T
God bless you for using hockey as a comparison
Good on you guys for including cm/360 and covering all your bases overall in general. There's always a stigma that well produced videos like this will have uninformed opinions, but I think you guys consistently do well to break that idea.
Other than botching the idea of eDPI, saying that csgo is "1:1" and valorant isn't, which is obnoxiously annoying, yeah they did a pretty good job.
I've been using 2.2 sens 400 dpi for about 17 years. I've upped it a bit as I have got older to not thrash my wrist.
2.2 chad reporting in
I don't have much desk space so I have always resorted to high sens and my eDPI is around 4000 to 4500 on val. My mouse is logitech superlight my val in game sens is 1 and my mouse DPI is 4500.
as someone who just bought a new mouse this video will be a interesting watch.
It’s preference honestly low sens allows more control but less flick ability, in my opinion the best setting is where if your mouse is centered on your mouse pad moving to the left or right edge of your mouse pad should result in a 180
Ive tried a higher sens before in valorant and i hit some insane shots but I also missed a lot of shots i should have hit. Playing on a lower sens makes me way more consistent
if you didn't use it for longer than 2 months as a PC player of at least more than 10 years then I don't think that anyone who says this has any remote validity in saying it.
Low sens just allows for consistency that high sens cannot. For me personally my aim can be pretty shaky sometimes so although I have played and popped off on high sens before, 3.5 @400, low sens irons out a whole lot of my inconsistency. I'm currently playing at 1.5 @400 and my deagle is hitting way more consistently.
Most people learned to use the computer before they play FPS. So they're already accustomed, or "predestined", to be arm or wrist aimers (one can switch of course, but most don't). Wrist aimers simply cannot go lower than somewhere around 1200. And for arm aimers, 3.5x400 is too high. I'm a wrist aimer on 2.9x400, it gives me the best aim but I constantly have trouble flicking. And I find my wrist in a twisted position often.
you can get consistent with any sensitivity, i play 3200 0.5 and am still very consistent.
Playing on 3.79 in game (CS:GO) and 1,500 dpi is just my sweet spot, sometimes using 4.79 in game whenever 3.79 felt sluggish for me (same dpi), not to mention I have a relatively decent sized mousepad.
High sens to me is just giving me a second pair of eyes since it's easier to check my back and snap back at the angle I was holding on, giving myself 360° vision, using both arm and wrist. But I only developed this because I played too much solo queue, and teammates that aren't my friends are not reliable for me, therefore I'm always on a 1v9.
LMAO silver player confirmed, the only rank where you might even get the chance to check your back before the flanker kills you.
“teammates that aren’t my friends” definitely silver 1 player
you aren't using any arm with a sensitivity like that, that is pure wrist. Incredibly high
I play with low sens on wz2 and i find it much easier to track targets, control recoil and many other things when shooting, i also tend to snap onto targets more easily.
I used to fiddle around a lot with sensitivities when I was getting into PC gaming, but after some research I just decided to stick to the rule of thumb of "getting a sensitivity where your entire mouse pad equals to an in-game 360" and then tweak your way from there.
It always worked for me, but I keep wondering if I should keep trying more weird numbers just for the hell of it lmao.
my mouse pad covers the whole table haha so does that mean I need lower sens?
i think yall could imagine how much mousepad space i've used when i play valorant with 1400 dpi and 1.2 sens in game 💀
Am 0.7 1600 dpi
G2 rn....
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As a kid I used to play with high sens, but as I aged I lowered my sens all the way down to 650, so my mouse is okay on desktop, and it's usually very low sensitivity ingame in any game out there. Besides games like World War Z or some stuff where you don't need fine aim. Also who the hell does wrist movements alone? Let's disregard that it'll wear and tear, but I have way more control when using my elbow/arm altogether.
3:06 ayo what's mah boi Vox doing in the background????? ur a man of culture I see
1. My best advice is to take a week of, if your sens feels too high when you come back you know it is. So lower it slightly til' it's good.
2. Nowadays you can record yourself so do this and measure what amount you are over aiming, like if you see you over aim with like a whole character, then figure out how many pixels that is and adjust your sensitivity accordingly.
3. Don't look at others, this way you will find your natural sensitivity.
Your brain has a fixed perception of movement and distance, like how you can catch a ball that is thrown in real life. When you play games you trick your brain into thinking it's physically in the game so your movements should correspond with your brains percepted distance and movement. This way you will get as precise aim as if you would take your finger and point at something.
I believe low sensitivity will help players grow their game sense slightly faster than high sensitivity, they win gunfights based on their game sense rather than their mechanics bailing them out and not really thinking about why they lose or win a gunfight
that's subjective
@@AmiciCherno yeah it’s just my thoughts about it. A theory.
@@mentosss9714 that’s fair
I used to be 480 eDPI but recently got as high as 660 to introduce more wrist for more precise tracking and flicks
can we get the same type of video for high sens players? maybe different games also? like hiko cs, pelican overwatch, agent quake
I have a rumor that i was told when starting off playing back in 2010. Then the older dudes said that the original reason for having low sens in cs was so that the character had time to move with your mouse and not ahead or behind. Therefore a mouse sens should be 180 degrees when reaching the mousepads end. If higher sens then your ingame character would not have time to turn animation wise and therefore problems could arise. I dont know if its true, it sounds scetchy af but its worth talking to the OG:s of cs like old NIP, old Dota- or Starcraft players to find out.
fancy being this early
Anime
As someone who started out on controller on halo nothing trained me better for cross hair placement than swat. Swat on halo is just the perfect training ground for cross hair placement.
i sucked on high sens and when i switched to low i got much better, then later switching to med/med-high sens and found that even better for me
m4a1s is overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo
make a "legend of m4a1 is overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore its a waste of time to play csgo" video @TheScore Esports
I use low sens for tac fps like Siege/Val but I increase it a lot for games like Apex/Titanfall
I saw a Vox stream open and an Ina Poster. I love Mr. Editor man now
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3:06 yknow what im looking at
i just randomly used the slider on valorant to half my sens, that number was 0.694 and right when i put it on i hit 2 headshots. i still use that to this day
I love the fact he's watching vox's stream on the monitor in the background at 18:14 lmfao
Also...theres ina poster on the wall
1000 DPI/0.80 AWPer here. I find that I can be more crisp and controlled with a low sense, not get too excited or scared and accidentally flick too far. I shake a little bit and that gives inaccuracies in my rifling, hard to focus on someone's moving head
I think it's not a specific value, but a range, beyond which you can't be accurate enough or mobile enough to win the gunfights.
Grip. Sen's . Mousepad . Best aimers are the ones that can make crazy flicks on to enemy target and then a small readjust to hit the headshot all in one movement. If you can reach this level of consistency. Yay from valorant is a great example