I don't even own a scale because I know if I'm fat or not. For one, if my pants didn't fit anymore, that would set off alarm bells in my head, but then again, I love being fit and looking good. I once had to have ankle surgery from a ski accident (totally fine now and back to skiing), and it made me appreciate the gift of mobility so much more. In fact,even the surgeon said being fit/healthy helps the healing process go faster and limit possible complications.
I do think the bmi runs a little low, i've been my low end and mid weight for bmi suggestions and I dont look okay...rib cages and chest bones sticking out. I think it depends on the body.
I think it's a good jumping off point, but shouldn't be taken as an inflexible rule. I'm overweight on the BMI scale and I feel that way. I also have been putting on more muscle, so I probably won't go down too much.
It's a rough guide as build is not really taken into account. My mate is 1" shorter than me but barrel chested when I was porky I was still in the "healthly" range but him at 15% fat was still in the "overweight" band. Likewise when I was younger and lifting regularly and pretty much at the max muscle for my skinny frame I was on the obese/overweight line. Anyone honest with themselves knows if they are carrying more than they should , currently I'm generally lean but getting that tell tale belly band , I could ignore it and wear my pants higher or accept that I did not reduce my intake enough while I had my shoulder injury.
Couple more things: many of these "healthy at every weight" proponents are younger women in their 20s or early 30s. When you start hitting middle age and pre-menopause and menopause and you're obese, you WILL have problems. The older you get, the more the fat impacts your health. I'm talking from experience. I have bad knees due to my weight (and falling down on them a few times at a high weight), developed asthma at 48 years old, and I literally cannot sleep without a CPAP machine. Their youth allows a bit more damage to the body without it being as noticeable, but I know they will wish they were not obese when they get 50 plus years old.
It's like how I used to be able to get black-out drunk when I was 20 and play sports the next morning like it was nothing, but now in my late 30s, if I so much as look at alcohol I feel hungover for a week, lol.
My mum is a shining (read: flaming dumpsterfire) example of this. She started her career of unfitness with skipping PE in high school and it's all been downhill from there. She's not obese, just overweight, chronically unfit, and constantly wondering why she's got all the problems she does. Honestly, her misery has been a huge inspiration to get and stay physically active, mentally healthy, and well-nourished. I like feeling decent and want to be around to see my great grandkids, thank you very much đ€·ââïž
@@rosem7042, if your mom is that untrained, maybe she's actually 'skinny-obese'? You know, looking like 'only' overweight, but actually the fat percentage is a lot higher because lean mass is so low?
@@rosem7042, I grew up sportsphobic so to say. I spent decades in the skinnyfat state. At times, I had trouble getting out of a car. Taking up the recomp business is a long fight, but... well, I'd encourage my younger self to get it going earlier. Everything is harder if you start late.
Itâs funny how in all these fat positivity posts, the overweight/obese models nearly always do everything they can to not look as fat. They wear clothing that gives the illusion theyâre smaller, they hide their stomachs in high waisted swimsuits/pants/underwear, they pose in ways that make them look smaller etc. Itâs ironic
@@renaultklio2401 There was a German book refuting a lot of these fat acceptance claims from a woman who used to believe them so it's also in Germany to some extent as well.
Germany and Britain have similar obesity rates to the US. I was kind of floored when I found it out. The main difference is they don't publicize it as much.
They're clearly overweight. Not average, just overweight. One problem is that since the fat thing is a Feminist issue now, adherents believe that everyone must tell them they look great no matter how terrible they look.
Ay i see it as a win. Feminists will tell them it's alright to be fat, so now it's easier to tell who's a 3rd wave feminist by their sizeđ Bonus point, the really fat ones that don't want to change and instead get fatter will die off đ
I went from a 38 BMI to a 28 BMI. My goal is to get lower so that Iâm less likely to get certain cancers that run in my family and diabetes. I was 260 pounds for 6 plus years and now around 188 pounds because I put in effort instead of sitting on my ass most the time. I really wish people werenât okay with being average. Why wouldnât you want to be the best version of you that you could be? It took me years to get to this point.
Congratulations on your progress! That is very inspiring, I wish you the best on your fitness journey. However, I think there is nothing wrong with being average. It's great that some people have the drive to push themselves hard, make a different in the world, etc... but it is also okay to just settle with an ordinary life, as long as you feel content with it. But people that work hard for their goals are entitled to be glorified, and get the praises and admiration they deserve. It gets even crazier when there are people bashing other's fitness goal and achievement- portraying their hard work in a negative light ( subjecting to diet culture, trying to fit in for a patriarchal society) or that sort of nonsense. I just hate that so much.
I love how they always say 'BMI sucks, because what if I'm jacked?!' 'Well, ARE you jacked?' (Silence.) BMI comes from a time when most people still actually worked (with their bodies) and walked. Do we have less lean mass nowadays, collectively? Well, I certainly did at my starting point. BMI said 24. Cool, right? Bodyfat check, however, said 27%. (I'm male.) So in many cases, BMI may tell you you aren't overweight (well, overfat), when you actually are!
I got blocked by a friend for being fat phobic because I said health at every size doesnât exist because when I was anorexic I was sicker than I had ever been in my entire life. Because calling me fat phobic for saying I was sick when I was underweight makes sense???
The women you showed are similar to my shape, I'm 19 and "average" looking. I'm overweight, but people don't believe me when I say that because I look "average". That's not good, being overweight/out of shape shouldn't be the average.
It's the same with me. I was obese and now I am "just" overweight and look similar to those women. I'm working to be lean. But people see me trying to lose more weight and tell me that I should be careful, cuz being underweight/anorectic isn't healthy. đđ€šđ
I wouldnât have guessed those women are obese but I wouldnât call them slim either. I was thinking chubby or slightly overweight. Actually they actually would meet my definition of curvy! I agree that the BMI scale should be supplemented with fat percentage measurement.
I'm not a big fan of the bmi when used alone, especially for women, but it's still a useful tool. And those women don't look obese but they don't look slim either, just average
I used to be on the obese side, but completely changed my lifestyle 15 years ago, and have never looked back. I'm healthy, in shape, and it feels good!!! The women in that photo are definitely not healthy, but I feel like, unfortunately, they are the average here in the US. To be successful at being healthy, it's a lifestyle, and something you can't half-ass, or you'll get those results.
I think these ladies look good but they are definitely not slim, a bit chunky yes, but not slim. I'm probably considered morbidly obese and I am ashamed by my lack of self control, I admit that. I am trying so hard for the past 3 months to eat clean and healthy and exercise more. I have lost 10 kilos so far, it's not enough, but I am determined to keep going. You are an inspiration Papa Swolio đ
Sir I usually agree with you on so many topics but when you said these women do not look health or eat right, I disagree. I workout about 5 to 6 times a week and eat a very clean keto diet.my body looks like some of these women
Might be true. At our university we do bioimpedance analyses and have to enter the subject's ethnicity since the reference groups on which the data used for these analyses are based on differ from each other.
The BMI confuses the shit out of me. When I was a healthy weight, I was between 125lbs to 130lbs, I looked and felt amazing. Years later Iâm trying to get back to that goal, only to look up my BMI for my size and itâs says im supposed to be between 94 and 116lbs. Iâm confused how can I be a perfect body weight and be considered over weight at the same tome. XD
The ultimate sad here is the fact that these women don't seem to have any more personality they think is worth showing other than being politically correct. I mean I gotta say three of the five have nice enough legs and booties but I don't really think they look healthy and when I look at the total picture I just see what we (Dutch people during my childhood) call volslank (full slim, but it's actually just a nice way of saying someone is freaking fat).
There are so many tools that can be used to measure health. Relying on just one measurement is foolish, in my opinion. If you don't want to use the bmi, that's fine, but don't hate on others that find it useful. I personally prefer body-fat percentage because it's more accurate and for my goals, it is far more useful. Most of my friends are runners, cyclists, and triathletes, so they keep me inspired to keep working and to not quit. Having that sort of environment is awesome and I'm fortunate that I have it.
So the clothing size thing is a minefield. I went shopping with my teen daughter yesterday, they had 2XS in the shops. I had never seen this before it was always S or XS. So I had to explain to her that this is now a new size probably to prevent smaller women going crazy and freaking out thinking they had gained some phantom fat when they see a woman who would have been a medium suddenly in a small like them. As in medium is what large used to be, so small is now what medium used to be and so on. I do not like this con job, it does not help anyone and we are just deluding ourselves. I have been a skinny child, slim adult, very overweight, lost weight but overweight still according to BMI. I have people in my family skinnier than me and fatter than me, so I am being objective.
@@rosem7042 you know they got better whilst conversely I noted that the men's shirts got worse. Like the price difference between pockets and no pockets. At least in the UK.
Thanks to the obesity pandemia, people nowadays believe that this is how "normal" women have to look like. Many people got a delusional perception of normalcy. Sad. đ
Iâll be honest. Im not a huge fan of BMI because it doesnt take into account body fat percentage or muscle mass. However, its a good guideline for overweight people to use to order to get yourself on the right track towards a more healthy weight. If youre obese and dont have much muscle on you, then you should probably take the measurement seriously. But then again, no doctors gonna look at a jacked guy and tell him hes unhealthy because his BMI is too high. Its called common sense.
I noticed some people think they're not overweight because they don't have a big a ss gut. But everywhere else their body looks like that Marshmallow Man from ghostbusters.
The reality Is that in todayâs society these women are considered slim/-average size and Obese people are fat/ big/ curvy.. etc .. while the morbidly obese are called overweight .. which is the opposite direction of where we should be headed .. đ€in my opi
Alright, papa. Usually I'm 100% on board with you but as someone who has lost 130 lbs this stung. I eat as clean as possible, I workout 5x/week but you probably wouldn't know it by looking at me because I have lose skin and you can't see any definition from all of the work I've put in. Just throwing it out there from someone who's worked their butt off to get healthy.
Also, I'm quite a bit smaller than those women, and I still consider my self fat, curvy, chubby or thicc. Those women are not slim. And Yes, I am considered overweight on the BMI scale.
The BMI range is actually too high for many females. I have to severely overeat and be pre-diabetic to weigh even mid range but at bmi 18 and 10% bf my health and menstrual cycle were perfect. Normal and average are suboptimal.
Iâm saying the BMI scale is broken, only because it does not account for womenâs breastâs at all. I think going by body fat percentage is better anyways đ€·ââïž
For what it's worth, I think celebrating participation is different from justifying not excelling. We can't all be 1st place even when we've all put equal effort in, but that effort should be celebrated to show people that their effort has value, and they should continue. That's why the 8th place medal matters. The 8th place person will have put effort in, unlike the people trying to justify not putting the effort in... We can't all be above average, and it's not an SJW thing... I love your enthusiasm and desire for us all to be the best we can be, just pointing out the nuance. I hope that makes sense âșïžđ (I would always have the participation medal, sweating buckets all the way lol)
I think the BMI scale is a useful, generic tool for average people. It has problems if you are heavier due to body building or if you're older. Overall, I take it at face value: somewhat useful, but not a strict guideline for determining a healthy weight. I am obese; however, as a woman who will be 50 years old in about a month, I know that I would be very "skinny looking" if I was at my BMI normal low-end range of 105 lbs. I'm 5"3".
I hate the âhealth at every sizeâ mantra. A lot of obesity related health issues are body âwear and tearâ that accumulates or breaks down over time. So a lot of these morbidly obese 20-40yr olds donât understand that while theyâre metabolically healthy via lab values today, that doesnât mean theyâre necessarily overall healthy and/or wonât have problems within a few years.
as a nurse with a graduate degree in public health I have to say you are spreading misinformation by downplaying COVID. I'm a swole fan but please don't spread this attitude about COVID unless you are trained to actually interpret CDC data which I definitely wouldn't have been able to until I studied for my MPH
I have been considered "overweight" on the bmi since highschool, while I was on cross country, eating healthy. I am considered "overweight " now, as a waitresss that does a 7 mile average 5 days a week at work, that goes to the gym 4-5 days a week. I eat healthy. I have always been really muscular so I don't freak out about it. However, despite being a size 8 and all that activity, nurses still like to hand me "how to eat healthy and exercise " info everytime I go to the doctors, lol. I get annoyed by that, especially after I tell them my diet, show them my pedometer and let them know about my love for the gym. It annoys me. That and their scale always says I am 7 to 10lbs heavier than all of my home scales since literally forever. I don't disagree that these women look like they are on the obese side just by body fat alone. Just sharing my new experiences since literally forever lol
Ive been really focused on my weight and health lately after finding papa, Alan and obese to beast (been on and off the wagon for years- lost over 50kilos now). I'm pretty muscular but was super excited to finally come out of the obese category for the first time in my adult life. Still overweight but definitely headed in the right direction!
My bmi is 22.8 at 5'4" 133 lbs. I try to eat my best and have cut out so much shit and added exercise. I don't appreciate when I get shit for being "skinny" or saying "she wouldn't understand shes thin.." Put my body and mind through hell with an eating disorder and finally beat it but because im "thin" people think i have no problems at all đ
I been called slim and I'm 207 been trimming down from 240. Im not slim. I know it and ill be damned if false comments derail me from my goal. Weird world we live in when people try to get you to gain pounds as if its a good thing. I've learned to never take compliments. Because that's how you get guided into fallowing the herd. Stay focused. If you want someone to tell you your doing good. Then that's on you. If you hold yourself to high standards then you'll release how many people have low standards. Stand tall and never let yourself slip. If you know you need to get up and do your best and you got cats in your corner saying you've done enough its time to get reed of the dead weight. We are who we hang around and if you want any hope you'll rather be friendless then anther chunky monkey in the line to a snack bar.
i think they should use those bio impedance scales at the doctors, they are extremely cheap although dunno if they make them that is hardy enough for some people! That way it can give you a weight and estimated visceral and adipose fat content of your body. Its not super accurate cus you cant expect it to be for ÂŁ20 |(for a home scale) but it gives you a better idea of where your body is at. That way if you are technically overweight/obese cus of your BMI looking at fat content to would give the doctors an idea that you are loaded with muscle if your visceral and adipose are low. Of course the fat acceptance would hate to see alarming levels of visceral and adipose on them coming up on an app and cry about that to.
As of a few weeks ago I was 278 lb. I haven't weighed myself since then but I have been doing everything I can to be healthy I have been walking everyday along with trying to do 15-minute exercises at least every other day I've gotten rid of anything unhealthy in my home anything processed is gone. And it is so surprising the amount of shit my friend has been giving me. She's closer to 400 lbs and because of a surgery she's had in the past just like I have had the same surgery she's supposed to be eating like I am and walking and exercising and I tried to get her to do it with me but the healthier I'm trying to be in the more bad stuff I cut out and the more I exercise she's been getting more and more upset with me trying to tell me that there's nothing wrong with eating cookies that there's nothing wrong with eating at McDonald's sometimes, ect..... I thought she would be happy for me but it seems to be the exact opposite
Exactly. I am 4'11" and 150, I was very slim (actually slim) and muscular, even though considered "obese" on BMI scale. But my sister is 180 lbs and 5'3" and she is considered obese on the BMI scale. Even though she wasn't huge, she definitley was overweight, and unhealthy. BMI isn't perfect, but it isn't completely invalid because it has some flaws.
If I was 142 pounds of muscle. It would be wrong in saying I am overweight. I however am 142 lbs of flab. It's not wrong. I am overweight. Is it me or you never notice muscular people crying about the BMI scale?
When i was 10 and played wii fit it absolutely didn't feel good being told that I was overweight from a videos game but it made me aware that I wasn't in the normal weight range while I didn't understand it then it made me want to work hard to lose the weight
I donât think theyâre obese. I donât think theyâre going to drop dead from their weight in their life time. But I canât say that for sure just by looking at them. I think thatâs what âhealth at every sizeâ is trying to get at but itâs gotten too skewed towards fat acceptance. We canât tell whatâs going on in someoneâs life to make them look the way they do .. or how they are able to move. Doesnât give someone the excuse to shove terrible food down their throats 24/7
yeah they don't look obese. Idk if the BMI scale is the same in every country but as a french person who went from considered obese to considered at a healthy weight, they kinda look just overweight. But as Papa Swolio said, they're posing
They're average size women but they're not slim and I doubt anyone would call that type of bodies "slim" other than to feel better about themselves. Much like calling yourself "curvy" when you're obese. Just couse overweight is the average doesn't make it the new slim. Also, they're average size in the US. That's not the norm everywhere else.
They do not look slim to me. They look a bit larger than me and I am still very much overweight (I'm working on it). BMI is accurate when you have a large excess of fat to lose in my opinion it can help figure out how bad it is.
If they had some extremely muscular women there I think it would be more accurate. What a lot of fat people don't know is that under their fat is NOT a ton of muscle if they don't exercise.
In my experience, you should always exercise in one way or another. If you can't lift weights ....go for a morning run... Or just walk a lot throughout your day. I feel bad when I stop exercising for a week and my mental health gets affected. Ofc exercising releases mental burden. So even if you are an average size or even if you're eating shit, just workout.
As a Japanese woman living in Japan these fat acceptance fatphobic things going on in the states are crazy. Those ladies in the picture are absolutely beautiful but they would be called obese in my country I'm 170cm and 53kg and still some people tell me I should lose weight or look chubby or big.
Then the perspective in your country is another extreme. I would consider you very slim according to your height and weight i would guess a size 34 (xs) how is that not skinny? I am glad I live in europe because I wouldnât fit in in japan or america đ
BMI are rubbish according to bmi at 6.3 I should be 12 stone now I havenât been 12 stone since I was 17 and even then I was closer to 13 and I was really skinny
BMI is one of many tools outside of a standard scale to judge body condition. However it should not be the sole decider đ€·ââïž I'm personally aiming for 20% body fat, currently 23% which for me at my height and build should range 65kg-75kg which will depend on my muscle percentage đ€š numbers change, health goals stay the same. Type 2 diabetes, PCOS is not an excuse I've kicked 20kg off so far.
Okay wait, what about when you do exercise? And drink over a gallon of water a day? I still donât âlookâ like I exercise, because I have loose skin. I wonât âlookâ like I exercise unless I get ripped underneath my loose skin.
You don't have to be slim to like your body, but you should be taking care of it at least. How can you like yourself if you constanly eat trash and be sedentary?
I canât see how they are âthinâ under any definition. I used to think the BMI scale was ridiculous and unobtainable when I was 100 pounds overweight, of course. Now Iâm in the healthy BMI for my height. Sure it seems to run low for the average muscular or 2020 American but not for the average pre 1950âs through 1990âs Americans.
I find the second from left good looking, she seems firm...I wouldnÂŽt call her "slim", more like chubby but she might be healthy if she eats right and exercizes... But anyway, there are limits to BMI, some can have a BMI of 17 and eat enough and be fine, others a BMI of 27 and be exercizing and eating the right amount, but no one (or barely anyone) would naturally have a BMI of 15- or 35+...
i agree bmi kinda sucks. my dad is just shy of 300 lbs and heâs 6â2 58 years old but he has the similar amount of muscle mass as a bodybuilder (he was told that after an extensive body test that determines what percent of your body is organs/bones/etc, muscle, and fat.) and while according to his bmi heâs obese but he has significantly less fat and more muscle than most people in his BMI group. pinch test is better, accounts for people like my dad, and bodybuilders who are considered obese by bmi
donât get me wrong he def had too much body fat and he considers himself obese but he looks VASTLY different from someone whoâs 300 lbs and thatâs all fat
Why do we accept mediocrity....yes they are average according to societies current standards but we know the standard is pretty unhealthy. I got slammed recently for saying I could not be attracted to a fat man but it's not about looks...if you are fat you don't care for yourself and if you don't care for yourself why would I expect you to care for me? I wouldn't be attracted to an alcoholic or drug addict for same reason. People need standards
As an "ex-fat" (lol Jesus Christ) I find being labeled as such, and with all the associated negative aspects of being hateful towards fat people, again something I do not agree with, is more of a way to promote mediocrity. It is a bloody excuse for people to remain fat and unhealthy. Absolute BS.
Both extremes are kind of toxic. I mean this in like the nicest way possible there are people that can lose weight and get in shape but they're never going to look good by the definition Society puts out. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't still work out and take care of them. There women that have had kids they're always going to have a little tiny belly pooch unless they have surgery that doesn't mean that they're not fit that doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to be fit. Same with people who lose a lot of weight and have extra skin. We need to focus more on the health aspect and less on the looks aspect.
I laugh when obese people tell me BMI is wrong. My ex tried to say his doctor was crap because his doctor used BMI and it's wrong. I straight up when, bish, BMI doesn't work for people who are athletes and the sort, and you clearly are not
imagine getting told BMI is wrong and you're a bmi 21 woman lul. I got told that by some guy who got his body fat percentage taken cuz he was worried he lost +5kg in a month. His body fat was 25% *shrug*
Interesting to me how the conversation shifted in the past decade from women gain weight as they age/menopause makes it difficult to lose weight/cellulite is a female secondary sex characteristic therefore older women shouldnât feel bad about their bodies and should honor them to why not have an old lady body in your 20s and age yourself prematurely because you need therapy. That might not be the most coherent but I promise thereâs something to it
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Of course they are classified as obese according to their BMI, lol. Isn't that obvious? If they'd be very muscular (and weight even more), of course they would still be considered obese. BMI is just height and weight. What about FFM and FM? BMI is so outdated - applicable to the "average" person - yes, for a first "diagnose" maybe.
Is really thats the average women size ? Change it please .... Thats fat in asian country ... Even in india (second largest obesity rate in world) i am that size i cant even keep a count of how many people telling me to loose weight when i am even on the process of it ...
I think they look..fine, but I like my women a little meaty. Healthy, but curvy. They *most certainly* are not slim. Like. At all. Ffs. what are we doing, people đ€Šââïž
These women are not fat but not slim either . but the BMI alone is really not always good. It uses a B cup as a standard. And was only developed on one body type. Belly fat is much more dangerous than having a big butt .I weigh almost 140 pounds at 5.5 but I have a D cup ( that weighs 10 -15 pounds more than a B or smaller ). I have a tiny waist 59 cm as of today but wider hips. My fat percentage is lower so I got more muscle weight. My waist hip ratio is ideal. A doctor never looks at me and thinks Iâm too fat. If a doctor sees a true fit woman and says sheâs unhealthy because of the BMI heâs an idiot. But we should not be surprised. We wonât go to visit most people for dinner anymore. What they eat barely counts as food and makes me sick.
I feel you. My height and weight is similar to yours my bmi is normal (about 23 or so) and with a size 38 I often donât know where I belong to in those categories.
Nina B. Your BMI is healthy. Check your waist hip ratio too itâs more accurate for the dangers of belly fat etc. I wear a US size 4 at 138 pounds with the same BMI as yours. But my measurements are tiny in the waist. 58 cm with a very big hip spring to a 93 cm hip . The BMI canât calculate that just as it canât calculate someone with less body fat percentage than average. If I account for the fact that my boobs are heavy and calculate what my weight would be on a B cup my BMI would be a 20. A BMI canât tell you these things. Just as it can not see how someone carries their weight and that can make a huge difference. If you are active you should be fine at your weight. Itâs a good weight. Healthy. Although I wonder where you live because believe me here you would not be a size 38 but smaller . But then I donât know your build so Iâm just guessing . Anyways you belong in the healthy weight category and donât have to worry probably.
Natalie Juarez My shoulders and hips (99 cm) are wider like an hourglass figure, I have a flat tummy but my waist is not that small (72 cm). Itâs more my butt that stores the fat I guess because my chest (c cup) is average đ I live in Austria.
Nina B. Sounds fine to me. Your measurements are good. If you carry your extra weight in your butt thatâs great because it often looks good and is not a health problem. You sound great to me. Btw I moved from Germany to the USA two years ago. Also ganz liebe GrĂŒĂe
Do you trust the BMI scale?
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I don't even own a scale because I know if I'm fat or not. For one, if my pants didn't fit anymore, that would set off alarm bells in my head, but then again, I love being fit and looking good. I once had to have ankle surgery from a ski accident (totally fine now and back to skiing), and it made me appreciate the gift of mobility so much more. In fact,even the surgeon said being fit/healthy helps the healing process go faster and limit possible complications.
I do think the bmi runs a little low, i've been my low end and mid weight for bmi suggestions and I dont look okay...rib cages and chest bones sticking out. I think it depends on the body.
Well the only issue I can list with the scale is a 5 ft6 dude could be 216 pounds of muscle and would technically be obese
I think it's a good jumping off point, but shouldn't be taken as an inflexible rule. I'm overweight on the BMI scale and I feel that way. I also have been putting on more muscle, so I probably won't go down too much.
It's a rough guide as build is not really taken into account. My mate is 1" shorter than me but barrel chested when I was porky I was still in the "healthly" range but him at 15% fat was still in the "overweight" band. Likewise when I was younger and lifting regularly and pretty much at the max muscle for my skinny frame I was on the obese/overweight line.
Anyone honest with themselves knows if they are carrying more than they should , currently I'm generally lean but getting that tell tale belly band , I could ignore it and wear my pants higher or accept that I did not reduce my intake enough while I had my shoulder injury.
Couple more things: many of these "healthy at every weight" proponents are younger women in their 20s or early 30s. When you start hitting middle age and pre-menopause and menopause and you're obese, you WILL have problems. The older you get, the more the fat impacts your health. I'm talking from experience. I have bad knees due to my weight (and falling down on them a few times at a high weight), developed asthma at 48 years old, and I literally cannot sleep without a CPAP machine. Their youth allows a bit more damage to the body without it being as noticeable, but I know they will wish they were not obese when they get 50 plus years old.
It's like how I used to be able to get black-out drunk when I was 20 and play sports the next morning like it was nothing, but now in my late 30s, if I so much as look at alcohol I feel hungover for a week, lol.
My mum is a shining (read: flaming dumpsterfire) example of this. She started her career of unfitness with skipping PE in high school and it's all been downhill from there. She's not obese, just overweight, chronically unfit, and constantly wondering why she's got all the problems she does. Honestly, her misery has been a huge inspiration to get and stay physically active, mentally healthy, and well-nourished. I like feeling decent and want to be around to see my great grandkids, thank you very much đ€·ââïž
@@rosem7042, if your mom is that untrained, maybe she's actually 'skinny-obese'?
You know, looking like 'only' overweight, but actually the fat percentage is a lot higher because lean mass is so low?
@@user-nm3ug3zq1y probably. She must have some muscles in there somewhere though, because she's always straining or pulling them :(
@@rosem7042, I grew up sportsphobic so to say. I spent decades in the skinnyfat state. At times, I had trouble getting out of a car.
Taking up the recomp business is a long fight, but... well, I'd encourage my younger self to get it going earlier. Everything is harder if you start late.
Itâs funny how in all these fat positivity posts, the overweight/obese models nearly always do everything they can to not look as fat. They wear clothing that gives the illusion theyâre smaller, they hide their stomachs in high waisted swimsuits/pants/underwear, they pose in ways that make them look smaller etc. Itâs ironic
For me as european this is crazy, i hope this kind of "fat acceptance" doesn't come to my country
Itâs already in the uk
I hope it comes to my country! Piglets are the sexiestđ
@@renaultklio2401 There was a German book refuting a lot of these fat acceptance claims from a woman who used to believe them so it's also in Germany to some extent as well.
Germany and Britain have similar obesity rates to the US. I was kind of floored when I found it out. The main difference is they don't publicize it as much.
its come to Norway. i despair.
They're clearly overweight. Not average, just overweight.
One problem is that since the fat thing is a Feminist issue now, adherents believe that everyone must tell them they look great no matter how terrible they look.
Ay i see it as a win. Feminists will tell them it's alright to be fat, so now it's easier to tell who's a 3rd wave feminist by their sizeđ Bonus point, the really fat ones that don't want to change and instead get fatter will die off đ
Iâm sure he meant âaverageâ meaning like the typical American.
@@eowyneadig7879 scary, isn't it?
As a feminist why wasn't I told that this was a issue that we need to accept much less cater too
@@theoutsiderjess4869 maybe because you haven't been paying attention? It's a pretty huge movement within feminist circles.
I went from a 38 BMI to a 28 BMI. My goal is to get lower so that Iâm less likely to get certain cancers that run in my family and diabetes. I was 260 pounds for 6 plus years and now around 188 pounds because I put in effort instead of sitting on my ass most the time. I really wish people werenât okay with being average. Why wouldnât you want to be the best version of you that you could be? It took me years to get to this point.
Congratulations on your progress! That is very inspiring, I wish you the best on your fitness journey. However, I think there is nothing wrong with being average. It's great that some people have the drive to push themselves hard, make a different in the world, etc... but it is also okay to just settle with an ordinary life, as long as you feel content with it. But people that work hard for their goals are entitled to be glorified, and get the praises and admiration they deserve. It gets even crazier when there are people bashing other's fitness goal and achievement- portraying their hard work in a negative light ( subjecting to diet culture, trying to fit in for a patriarchal society) or that sort of nonsense. I just hate that so much.
I love how they always say 'BMI sucks, because what if I'm jacked?!'
'Well, ARE you jacked?'
(Silence.)
BMI comes from a time when most people still actually worked (with their bodies) and walked.
Do we have less lean mass nowadays, collectively?
Well, I certainly did at my starting point.
BMI said 24. Cool, right?
Bodyfat check, however, said 27%. (I'm male.)
So in many cases, BMI may tell you you aren't overweight (well, overfat), when you actually are!
I got blocked by a friend for being fat phobic because I said health at every size doesnât exist because when I was anorexic I was sicker than I had ever been in my entire life. Because calling me fat phobic for saying I was sick when I was underweight makes sense???
Because feelings....
**eyeroll** Sorry lady. Wonder if all that fat makes them soft in the head. It has been shown to lower your IQ
The women you showed are similar to my shape, I'm 19 and "average" looking. I'm overweight, but people don't believe me when I say that because I look "average". That's not good, being overweight/out of shape shouldn't be the average.
It's the same with me. I was obese and now I am "just" overweight and look similar to those women. I'm working to be lean. But people see me trying to lose more weight and tell me that I should be careful, cuz being underweight/anorectic isn't healthy.
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@@Gaia_Seraphina Show them your muscle when they talk about underweight, you can't flex fat.
I am also average sized. I get told all the time. I don't need to lose any more weight.
BMI is pretty accurate for the general population.
I wouldnât have guessed those women are obese but I wouldnât call them slim either. I was thinking chubby or slightly overweight. Actually they actually would meet my definition of curvy! I agree that the BMI scale should be supplemented with fat percentage measurement.
I'm not a big fan of the bmi when used alone, especially for women, but it's still a useful tool. And those women don't look obese but they don't look slim either, just average
The problem is significantly overweight is the average.
I used to be on the obese side, but completely changed my lifestyle 15 years ago, and have never looked back. I'm healthy, in shape, and it feels good!!! The women in that photo are definitely not healthy, but I feel like, unfortunately, they are the average here in the US. To be successful at being healthy, it's a lifestyle, and something you can't half-ass, or you'll get those results.
I think these ladies look good but they are definitely not slim, a bit chunky yes, but not slim. I'm probably considered morbidly obese and I am ashamed by my lack of self control, I admit that. I am trying so hard for the past 3 months to eat clean and healthy and exercise more. I have lost 10 kilos so far, it's not enough, but I am determined to keep going. You are an inspiration Papa Swolio đ
Sir I usually agree with you on so many topics but when you said these women do not look health or eat right, I disagree. I workout about 5 to 6 times a week and eat a very clean keto diet.my body looks like some of these women
Check your thyroid
I heard that the limits are likely to be different for different ethnicities too as the composition of the body is different on average
Might be true. At our university we do bioimpedance analyses and have to enter the subject's ethnicity since the reference groups on which the data used for these analyses are based on differ from each other.
Theyâre chubby/chunky not slim.
The BMI confuses the shit out of me. When I was a healthy weight, I was between 125lbs to 130lbs, I looked and felt amazing. Years later Iâm trying to get back to that goal, only to look up my BMI for my size and itâs says im supposed to be between 94 and 116lbs. Iâm confused how can I be a perfect body weight and be considered over weight at the same tome. XD
The ultimate sad here is the fact that these women don't seem to have any more personality they think is worth showing other than being politically correct. I mean I gotta say three of the five have nice enough legs and booties but I don't really think they look healthy and when I look at the total picture I just see what we (Dutch people during my childhood) call volslank (full slim, but it's actually just a nice way of saying someone is freaking fat).
There are so many tools that can be used to measure health. Relying on just one measurement is foolish, in my opinion. If you don't want to use the bmi, that's fine, but don't hate on others that find it useful. I personally prefer body-fat percentage because it's more accurate and for my goals, it is far more useful.
Most of my friends are runners, cyclists, and triathletes, so they keep me inspired to keep working and to not quit. Having that sort of environment is awesome and I'm fortunate that I have it.
So the clothing size thing is a minefield. I went shopping with my teen daughter yesterday, they had 2XS in the shops. I had never seen this before it was always S or XS. So I had to explain to her that this is now a new size probably to prevent smaller women going crazy and freaking out thinking they had gained some phantom fat when they see a woman who would have been a medium suddenly in a small like them. As in medium is what large used to be, so small is now what medium used to be and so on. I do not like this con job, it does not help anyone and we are just deluding ourselves. I have been a skinny child, slim adult, very overweight, lost weight but overweight still according to BMI. I have people in my family skinnier than me and fatter than me, so I am being objective.
But when will girls and women's clothes have normal-sized pockets?
@@rosem7042 you know they got better whilst conversely I noted that the men's shirts got worse. Like the price difference between pockets and no pockets. At least in the UK.
@@nicpic1985 oof. No luck for us Americans, but I'm glad you have decent pockets over there.
Thanks to the obesity pandemia, people nowadays believe that this is how "normal" women have to look like.
Many people got a delusional perception of normalcy.
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2020 a hot mess. I concur Papa!
anyone else watch channels like this as youâre working out or making a meal for that extra bit of motivation? or is it just me
Being average is being mediocre, mediocre means you are doing minimal to no effort
Iâll be honest. Im not a huge fan of BMI because it doesnt take into account body fat percentage or muscle mass. However, its a good guideline for overweight people to use to order to get yourself on the right track towards a more healthy weight. If youre obese and dont have much muscle on you, then you should probably take the measurement seriously. But then again, no doctors gonna look at a jacked guy and tell him hes unhealthy because his BMI is too high. Its called common sense.
I noticed some people think they're not overweight because they don't have a big a ss gut. But everywhere else their body looks like that Marshmallow Man from ghostbusters.
Its the opposite for me I got a gut but was putting off doing anything because I was skinny. Now im working on it and changing my diet a bit.
The reality Is that in todayâs society these women are considered slim/-average size and Obese people are fat/ big/ curvy.. etc .. while the morbidly obese are called overweight .. which is the opposite direction of where we should be headed .. đ€in my opi
âSlim?â Come back to reality...
Alright, papa. Usually I'm 100% on board with you but as someone who has lost 130 lbs this stung. I eat as clean as possible, I workout 5x/week but you probably wouldn't know it by looking at me because I have lose skin and you can't see any definition from all of the work I've put in. Just throwing it out there from someone who's worked their butt off to get healthy.
Also, I'm quite a bit smaller than those women, and I still consider my self fat, curvy, chubby or thicc. Those women are not slim. And Yes, I am considered overweight on the BMI scale.
The BMI range is actually too high for many females. I have to severely overeat and be pre-diabetic to weigh even mid range but at bmi 18 and 10% bf my health and menstrual cycle were perfect.
Normal and average are suboptimal.
Health At Every Size? So, I was the picture of health when I weighed 28 pounds. Shiny!
Iâm saying the BMI scale is broken, only because it does not account for womenâs breastâs at all. I think going by body fat percentage is better anyways đ€·ââïž
For what it's worth, I think celebrating participation is different from justifying not excelling. We can't all be 1st place even when we've all put equal effort in, but that effort should be celebrated to show people that their effort has value, and they should continue. That's why the 8th place medal matters. The 8th place person will have put effort in, unlike the people trying to justify not putting the effort in... We can't all be above average, and it's not an SJW thing... I love your enthusiasm and desire for us all to be the best we can be, just pointing out the nuance. I hope that makes sense âșïžđ (I would always have the participation medal, sweating buckets all the way lol)
Well spoken!
Always keepin real!!!
Real talk!
Imagine if someone put "all these thick women are underweight according to bmi" and it was extremely thin ribs showing women, this is ridiculous
I think the BMI scale is a useful, generic tool for average people. It has problems if you are heavier due to body building or if you're older. Overall, I take it at face value: somewhat useful, but not a strict guideline for determining a healthy weight. I am obese; however, as a woman who will be 50 years old in about a month, I know that I would be very "skinny looking" if I was at my BMI normal low-end range of 105 lbs. I'm 5"3".
I hate the âhealth at every sizeâ mantra. A lot of obesity related health issues are body âwear and tearâ that accumulates or breaks down over time. So a lot of these morbidly obese 20-40yr olds donât understand that while theyâre metabolically healthy via lab values today, that doesnât mean theyâre necessarily overall healthy and/or wonât have problems within a few years.
as a nurse with a graduate degree in public health I have to say you are spreading misinformation by downplaying COVID. I'm a swole fan but please don't spread this attitude about COVID unless you are trained to actually interpret CDC data which I definitely wouldn't have been able to until I studied for my MPH
So so well said!!! đđđđ
They are all overweight which unfortunately is the average. Sad.
Um...NO....NOT SLIM. Everything in this video: Amen!!!
I have been considered "overweight" on the bmi since highschool, while I was on cross country, eating healthy. I am considered "overweight " now, as a waitresss that does a 7 mile average 5 days a week at work, that goes to the gym 4-5 days a week. I eat healthy. I have always been really muscular so I don't freak out about it. However, despite being a size 8 and all that activity, nurses still like to hand me "how to eat healthy and exercise " info everytime I go to the doctors, lol. I get annoyed by that, especially after I tell them my diet, show them my pedometer and let them know about my love for the gym. It annoys me. That and their scale always says I am 7 to 10lbs heavier than all of my home scales since literally forever.
I don't disagree that these women look like they are on the obese side just by body fat alone. Just sharing my new experiences since literally forever lol
Obesity deaths are catching up to smoking deaths, per year
Ive been really focused on my weight and health lately after finding papa, Alan and obese to beast (been on and off the wagon for years- lost over 50kilos now). I'm pretty muscular but was super excited to finally come out of the obese category for the first time in my adult life. Still overweight but definitely headed in the right direction!
My bmi is 22.8 at 5'4" 133 lbs. I try to eat my best and have cut out so much shit and added exercise. I don't appreciate when I get shit for being "skinny" or saying "she wouldn't understand shes thin.."
Put my body and mind through hell with an eating disorder and finally beat it but because im "thin" people think i have no problems at all đ
I been called slim and I'm 207 been trimming down from 240. Im not slim. I know it and ill be damned if false comments derail me from my goal. Weird world we live in when people try to get you to gain pounds as if its a good thing. I've learned to never take compliments. Because that's how you get guided into fallowing the herd. Stay focused. If you want someone to tell you your doing good. Then that's on you. If you hold yourself to high standards then you'll release how many people have low standards. Stand tall and never let yourself slip. If you know you need to get up and do your best and you got cats in your corner saying you've done enough its time to get reed of the dead weight. We are who we hang around and if you want any hope you'll rather be friendless then anther chunky monkey in the line to a snack bar.
10:00 The bar should only be lowered while doing a bench press. đđ
i think they should use those bio impedance scales at the doctors, they are extremely cheap although dunno if they make them that is hardy enough for some people! That way it can give you a weight and estimated visceral and adipose fat content of your body. Its not super accurate cus you cant expect it to be for ÂŁ20 |(for a home scale) but it gives you a better idea of where your body is at. That way if you are technically overweight/obese cus of your BMI looking at fat content to would give the doctors an idea that you are loaded with muscle if your visceral and adipose are low.
Of course the fat acceptance would hate to see alarming levels of visceral and adipose on them coming up on an app and cry about that to.
As of a few weeks ago I was 278 lb. I haven't weighed myself since then but I have been doing everything I can to be healthy I have been walking everyday along with trying to do 15-minute exercises at least every other day I've gotten rid of anything unhealthy in my home anything processed is gone. And it is so surprising the amount of shit my friend has been giving me. She's closer to 400 lbs and because of a surgery she's had in the past just like I have had the same surgery she's supposed to be eating like I am and walking and exercising and I tried to get her to do it with me but the healthier I'm trying to be in the more bad stuff I cut out and the more I exercise she's been getting more and more upset with me trying to tell me that there's nothing wrong with eating cookies that there's nothing wrong with eating at McDonald's sometimes, ect..... I thought she would be happy for me but it seems to be the exact opposite
Exactly. I am 4'11" and 150, I was very slim (actually slim) and muscular, even though considered "obese" on BMI scale. But my sister is 180 lbs and 5'3" and she is considered obese on the BMI scale. Even though she wasn't huge, she definitley was overweight, and unhealthy. BMI isn't perfect, but it isn't completely invalid because it has some flaws.
If I was 142 pounds of muscle. It would be wrong in saying I am overweight. I however am 142 lbs of flab. It's not wrong. I am overweight. Is it me or you never notice muscular people crying about the BMI scale?
When i was 10 and played wii fit it absolutely didn't feel good being told that I was overweight from a videos game but it made me aware that I wasn't in the normal weight range while I didn't understand it then it made me want to work hard to lose the weight
I donât think theyâre obese. I donât think theyâre going to drop dead from their weight in their life time. But I canât say that for sure just by looking at them. I think thatâs what âhealth at every sizeâ is trying to get at but itâs gotten too skewed towards fat acceptance. We canât tell whatâs going on in someoneâs life to make them look the way they do .. or how they are able to move. Doesnât give someone the excuse to shove terrible food down their throats 24/7
yeah they don't look obese. Idk if the BMI scale is the same in every country but as a french person who went from considered obese to considered at a healthy weight, they kinda look just overweight. But as Papa Swolio said, they're posing
@MrJabloney you're absolutely right, obese doesn't necessarily mean Amberlynn Reid
They're average size women but they're not slim and I doubt anyone would call that type of bodies "slim" other than to feel better about themselves. Much like calling yourself "curvy" when you're obese.
Just couse overweight is the average doesn't make it the new slim. Also, they're average size in the US. That's not the norm everywhere else.
I got a pizza ad on this lmao
If those women are slim, I'm a anorexic then!
Do we need a BMI to know if we are fat or obese? No just a miroir serisouly
They do not look slim to me. They look a bit larger than me and I am still very much overweight (I'm working on it). BMI is accurate when you have a large excess of fat to lose in my opinion it can help figure out how bad it is.
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If they had some extremely muscular women there I think it would be more accurate. What a lot of fat people don't know is that under their fat is NOT a ton of muscle if they don't exercise.
In my experience, you should always exercise in one way or another. If you can't lift weights ....go for a morning run... Or just walk a lot throughout your day. I feel bad when I stop exercising for a week and my mental health gets affected. Ofc exercising releases mental burden. So even if you are an average size or even if you're eating shit, just workout.
As a Japanese woman living in Japan these fat acceptance fatphobic things going on in the states are crazy. Those ladies in the picture are absolutely beautiful but they would be called obese in my country I'm 170cm and 53kg and still some people tell me I should lose weight or look chubby or big.
Then the perspective in your country is another extreme. I would consider you very slim according to your height and weight i would guess a size 34 (xs) how is that not skinny? I am glad I live in europe because I wouldnât fit in in japan or america đ
BMI are rubbish according to bmi at 6.3 I should be 12 stone now I havenât been 12 stone since I was 17 and even then I was closer to 13 and I was really skinny
i don't why anyone would think that these women are slim. I love these endings with tess horniday!!
I just want to say that there is a difference between thick vs overweight, and these ladies are not thick. They're overweight.
âBaby... baby... bucket??â
BMI is one of many tools outside of a standard scale to judge body condition. However it should not be the sole decider đ€·ââïž I'm personally aiming for 20% body fat, currently 23% which for me at my height and build should range 65kg-75kg which will depend on my muscle percentage đ€š numbers change, health goals stay the same.
Type 2 diabetes, PCOS is not an excuse I've kicked 20kg off so far.
Thank you thank thank you for truth bomb without the F bomb! đđœđđ»đđż
Okay wait, what about when you do exercise? And drink over a gallon of water a day? I still donât âlookâ like I exercise, because I have loose skin. I wonât âlookâ like I exercise unless I get ripped underneath my loose skin.
You don't have to be slim to like your body, but you should be taking care of it at least. How can you like yourself if you constanly eat trash and be sedentary?
I canât see how they are âthinâ under any definition. I used to think the BMI scale was ridiculous and unobtainable when I was 100 pounds overweight, of course. Now Iâm in the healthy BMI for my height. Sure it seems to run low for the average muscular or 2020 American but not for the average pre 1950âs through 1990âs Americans.
I find the second from left good looking, she seems firm...I wouldnÂŽt call her "slim", more like chubby but she might be healthy if she eats right and exercizes...
But anyway, there are limits to BMI, some can have a BMI of 17 and eat enough and be fine, others a BMI of 27 and be exercizing and eating the right amount, but no one (or barely anyone) would naturally have a BMI of 15- or 35+...
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i agree bmi kinda sucks. my dad is just shy of 300 lbs and heâs 6â2 58 years old but he has the similar amount of muscle mass as a bodybuilder (he was told that after an extensive body test that determines what percent of your body is organs/bones/etc, muscle, and fat.) and while according to his bmi heâs obese but he has significantly less fat and more muscle than most people in his BMI group. pinch test is better, accounts for people like my dad, and bodybuilders who are considered obese by bmi
donât get me wrong he def had too much body fat and he considers himself obese but he looks VASTLY different from someone whoâs 300 lbs and thatâs all fat
This has to be stopped soon
Why do we accept mediocrity....yes they are average according to societies current standards but we know the standard is pretty unhealthy. I got slammed recently for saying I could not be attracted to a fat man but it's not about looks...if you are fat you don't care for yourself and if you don't care for yourself why would I expect you to care for me? I wouldn't be attracted to an alcoholic or drug addict for same reason. People need standards
As an "ex-fat" (lol Jesus Christ) I find being labeled as such, and with all the associated negative aspects of being hateful towards fat people, again something I do not agree with, is more of a way to promote mediocrity. It is a bloody excuse for people to remain fat and unhealthy. Absolute BS.
Both extremes are kind of toxic. I mean this in like the nicest way possible there are people that can lose weight and get in shape but they're never going to look good by the definition Society puts out. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't still work out and take care of them. There women that have had kids they're always going to have a little tiny belly pooch unless they have surgery that doesn't mean that they're not fit that doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to be fit. Same with people who lose a lot of weight and have extra skin. We need to focus more on the health aspect and less on the looks aspect.
I laugh when obese people tell me BMI is wrong. My ex tried to say his doctor was crap because his doctor used BMI and it's wrong. I straight up when, bish, BMI doesn't work for people who are athletes and the sort, and you clearly are not
imagine getting told BMI is wrong and you're a bmi 21 woman lul.
I got told that by some guy who got his body fat percentage taken cuz he was worried he lost +5kg in a month. His body fat was 25% *shrug*
Interesting to me how the conversation shifted in the past decade from women gain weight as they age/menopause makes it difficult to lose weight/cellulite is a female secondary sex characteristic therefore older women shouldnât feel bad about their bodies and should honor them to why not have an old lady body in your 20s and age yourself prematurely because you need therapy. That might not be the most coherent but I promise thereâs something to it
Nut goes the tessy
These arnt slim women?
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If they're slim, I'm skelly lmaooo.. Anyways, they're not average, they're fat
Infinyfat lol
Of course they are classified as obese according to their BMI, lol. Isn't that obvious? If they'd be very muscular (and weight even more), of course they would still be considered obese. BMI is just height and weight. What about FFM and FM? BMI is so outdated - applicable to the "average" person - yes, for a first "diagnose" maybe.
Where are asians and latinos? Also what about men, trans?
Is really thats the average women size ?
Change it please ....
Thats fat in asian country ... Even in india (second largest obesity rate in world) i am that size i cant even keep a count of how many people telling me to loose weight when i am even on the process of it ...
If you look down and canât see tour junk Without arching your back. You ainât slim
I think they look..fine, but I like my women a little meaty. Healthy, but curvy.
They *most certainly* are not slim. Like. At all.
Ffs. what are we doing, people đ€Šââïž
#papaswolio what do you think of the black national anthem at NFL?
These women are not fat but not slim either . but the BMI alone is really not always good. It uses a B cup as a standard. And was only developed on one body type. Belly fat is much more dangerous than having a big butt .I weigh almost 140 pounds at 5.5 but I have a D cup ( that weighs 10 -15 pounds more than a B or smaller ). I have a tiny waist 59 cm as of today but wider hips. My fat percentage is lower so I got more muscle weight. My waist hip ratio is ideal. A doctor never looks at me and thinks Iâm too fat. If a doctor sees a true fit woman and says sheâs unhealthy because of the BMI heâs an idiot.
But we should not be surprised. We wonât go to visit most people for dinner anymore. What they eat barely counts as food and makes me sick.
I feel you. My height and weight is similar to yours my bmi is normal (about 23 or so) and with a size 38 I often donât know where I belong to in those categories.
Nina B. Your BMI is healthy. Check your waist hip ratio too itâs more accurate for the dangers of belly fat etc.
I wear a US size 4 at 138 pounds with the same BMI as yours. But my measurements are tiny in the waist. 58 cm with a very big hip spring to a 93 cm hip . The BMI canât calculate that just as it canât calculate someone with less body fat percentage than average. If I account for the fact that my boobs are heavy and calculate what my weight would be on a B cup my BMI would be a 20. A BMI canât tell you these things. Just as it can not see how someone carries their weight and that can make a huge difference.
If you are active you should be fine at your weight. Itâs a good weight. Healthy. Although I wonder where you live because believe me here you would not be a size 38 but smaller . But then I donât know your build so Iâm just guessing . Anyways you belong in the healthy weight category and donât have to worry probably.
Natalie Juarez My shoulders and hips (99 cm) are wider like an hourglass figure, I have a flat tummy but my waist is not that small (72 cm). Itâs more my butt that stores the fat I guess because my chest (c cup) is average đ I live in Austria.
Nina B. Sounds fine to me. Your measurements are good. If you carry your extra weight in your butt thatâs great because it often looks good and is not a health problem. You sound great to me.
Btw I moved from Germany to the USA two years ago. Also ganz liebe GrĂŒĂe
Natalie Juarez Thank you very much. You look very beautiful on your profile picture :)
Helping women feel good does not equate to making women take responsibility. The ladies in that photo are fat, not slim.
We should be nice to fat people... They will save us in a zombie apocalypse :):):)