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  • @Swolenormous
    @Swolenormous  Pƙed 3 lety +13

    Do you trust the BMI scale?
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    • @tbex613
      @tbex613 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I don't even own a scale because I know if I'm fat or not. For one, if my pants didn't fit anymore, that would set off alarm bells in my head, but then again, I love being fit and looking good. I once had to have ankle surgery from a ski accident (totally fine now and back to skiing), and it made me appreciate the gift of mobility so much more. In fact,even the surgeon said being fit/healthy helps the healing process go faster and limit possible complications.

    • @A_Fairy007
      @A_Fairy007 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      I do think the bmi runs a little low, i've been my low end and mid weight for bmi suggestions and I dont look okay...rib cages and chest bones sticking out. I think it depends on the body.

    • @tombootysnatcher7191
      @tombootysnatcher7191 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Well the only issue I can list with the scale is a 5 ft6 dude could be 216 pounds of muscle and would technically be obese

    • @Fluffy_Love
      @Fluffy_Love Pƙed 3 lety

      I think it's a good jumping off point, but shouldn't be taken as an inflexible rule. I'm overweight on the BMI scale and I feel that way. I also have been putting on more muscle, so I probably won't go down too much.

    • @NorfolkTears
      @NorfolkTears Pƙed 3 lety

      It's a rough guide as build is not really taken into account. My mate is 1" shorter than me but barrel chested when I was porky I was still in the "healthly" range but him at 15% fat was still in the "overweight" band. Likewise when I was younger and lifting regularly and pretty much at the max muscle for my skinny frame I was on the obese/overweight line.
      Anyone honest with themselves knows if they are carrying more than they should , currently I'm generally lean but getting that tell tale belly band , I could ignore it and wear my pants higher or accept that I did not reduce my intake enough while I had my shoulder injury.

  • @laurzee
    @laurzee Pƙed 3 lety +88

    Couple more things: many of these "healthy at every weight" proponents are younger women in their 20s or early 30s. When you start hitting middle age and pre-menopause and menopause and you're obese, you WILL have problems. The older you get, the more the fat impacts your health. I'm talking from experience. I have bad knees due to my weight (and falling down on them a few times at a high weight), developed asthma at 48 years old, and I literally cannot sleep without a CPAP machine. Their youth allows a bit more damage to the body without it being as noticeable, but I know they will wish they were not obese when they get 50 plus years old.

    • @tbex613
      @tbex613 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      It's like how I used to be able to get black-out drunk when I was 20 and play sports the next morning like it was nothing, but now in my late 30s, if I so much as look at alcohol I feel hungover for a week, lol.

    • @rosem7042
      @rosem7042 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      My mum is a shining (read: flaming dumpsterfire) example of this. She started her career of unfitness with skipping PE in high school and it's all been downhill from there. She's not obese, just overweight, chronically unfit, and constantly wondering why she's got all the problems she does. Honestly, her misery has been a huge inspiration to get and stay physically active, mentally healthy, and well-nourished. I like feeling decent and want to be around to see my great grandkids, thank you very much đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

    • @user-nm3ug3zq1y
      @user-nm3ug3zq1y Pƙed 3 lety

      @@rosem7042, if your mom is that untrained, maybe she's actually 'skinny-obese'?
      You know, looking like 'only' overweight, but actually the fat percentage is a lot higher because lean mass is so low?

    • @rosem7042
      @rosem7042 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@user-nm3ug3zq1y probably. She must have some muscles in there somewhere though, because she's always straining or pulling them :(

    • @user-nm3ug3zq1y
      @user-nm3ug3zq1y Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@rosem7042, I grew up sportsphobic so to say. I spent decades in the skinnyfat state. At times, I had trouble getting out of a car.
      Taking up the recomp business is a long fight, but... well, I'd encourage my younger self to get it going earlier. Everything is harder if you start late.

  • @mollyoxy
    @mollyoxy Pƙed 3 lety +52

    It’s funny how in all these fat positivity posts, the overweight/obese models nearly always do everything they can to not look as fat. They wear clothing that gives the illusion they’re smaller, they hide their stomachs in high waisted swimsuits/pants/underwear, they pose in ways that make them look smaller etc. It’s ironic

  • @bernhardfritz9006
    @bernhardfritz9006 Pƙed 3 lety +47

    For me as european this is crazy, i hope this kind of "fat acceptance" doesn't come to my country

    • @renaultklio2401
      @renaultklio2401 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      It’s already in the uk

    • @hegepia87
      @hegepia87 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I hope it comes to my country! Piglets are the sexiest😍

    • @joni1405
      @joni1405 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@renaultklio2401 There was a German book refuting a lot of these fat acceptance claims from a woman who used to believe them so it's also in Germany to some extent as well.

    • @HallieEva
      @HallieEva Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Germany and Britain have similar obesity rates to the US. I was kind of floored when I found it out. The main difference is they don't publicize it as much.

    • @blah914
      @blah914 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      its come to Norway. i despair.

  • @joelhall5124
    @joelhall5124 Pƙed 3 lety +71

    They're clearly overweight. Not average, just overweight.
    One problem is that since the fat thing is a Feminist issue now, adherents believe that everyone must tell them they look great no matter how terrible they look.

    • @chazking8137
      @chazking8137 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Ay i see it as a win. Feminists will tell them it's alright to be fat, so now it's easier to tell who's a 3rd wave feminist by their size💀 Bonus point, the really fat ones that don't want to change and instead get fatter will die off 👀

    • @eowyneadig7879
      @eowyneadig7879 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      I’m sure he meant “average” meaning like the typical American.

    • @joelhall5124
      @joelhall5124 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@eowyneadig7879 scary, isn't it?

    • @theoutsiderjess4869
      @theoutsiderjess4869 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      As a feminist why wasn't I told that this was a issue that we need to accept much less cater too

    • @joelhall5124
      @joelhall5124 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@theoutsiderjess4869 maybe because you haven't been paying attention? It's a pretty huge movement within feminist circles.

  • @Srcybe
    @Srcybe Pƙed 3 lety +25

    I went from a 38 BMI to a 28 BMI. My goal is to get lower so that I’m less likely to get certain cancers that run in my family and diabetes. I was 260 pounds for 6 plus years and now around 188 pounds because I put in effort instead of sitting on my ass most the time. I really wish people weren’t okay with being average. Why wouldn’t you want to be the best version of you that you could be? It took me years to get to this point.

    • @flanfantasyflan8350
      @flanfantasyflan8350 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Congratulations on your progress! That is very inspiring, I wish you the best on your fitness journey. However, I think there is nothing wrong with being average. It's great that some people have the drive to push themselves hard, make a different in the world, etc... but it is also okay to just settle with an ordinary life, as long as you feel content with it. But people that work hard for their goals are entitled to be glorified, and get the praises and admiration they deserve. It gets even crazier when there are people bashing other's fitness goal and achievement- portraying their hard work in a negative light ( subjecting to diet culture, trying to fit in for a patriarchal society) or that sort of nonsense. I just hate that so much.

  • @user-nm3ug3zq1y
    @user-nm3ug3zq1y Pƙed 3 lety +27

    I love how they always say 'BMI sucks, because what if I'm jacked?!'
    'Well, ARE you jacked?'
    (Silence.)
    BMI comes from a time when most people still actually worked (with their bodies) and walked.
    Do we have less lean mass nowadays, collectively?
    Well, I certainly did at my starting point.
    BMI said 24. Cool, right?
    Bodyfat check, however, said 27%. (I'm male.)
    So in many cases, BMI may tell you you aren't overweight (well, overfat), when you actually are!

  • @rae2622
    @rae2622 Pƙed 3 lety +44

    I got blocked by a friend for being fat phobic because I said health at every size doesn’t exist because when I was anorexic I was sicker than I had ever been in my entire life. Because calling me fat phobic for saying I was sick when I was underweight makes sense???

    • @crosisofborg5524
      @crosisofborg5524 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Because feelings....

    • @Kaalokalawaia
      @Kaalokalawaia Pƙed 3 lety

      **eyeroll** Sorry lady. Wonder if all that fat makes them soft in the head. It has been shown to lower your IQ

  • @aiyannaboykins7888
    @aiyannaboykins7888 Pƙed 3 lety +30

    The women you showed are similar to my shape, I'm 19 and "average" looking. I'm overweight, but people don't believe me when I say that because I look "average". That's not good, being overweight/out of shape shouldn't be the average.

    • @Gaia_Seraphina
      @Gaia_Seraphina Pƙed 3 lety +3

      It's the same with me. I was obese and now I am "just" overweight and look similar to those women. I'm working to be lean. But people see me trying to lose more weight and tell me that I should be careful, cuz being underweight/anorectic isn't healthy.
      đŸ™„đŸ€šđŸ˜‘

    • @gss6531
      @gss6531 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@Gaia_Seraphina Show them your muscle when they talk about underweight, you can't flex fat.

    • @MandieTerrier
      @MandieTerrier Pƙed 3 lety +2

      I am also average sized. I get told all the time. I don't need to lose any more weight.

  • @gracendew4084
    @gracendew4084 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    BMI is pretty accurate for the general population.

  • @KittySnicker
    @KittySnicker Pƙed 3 lety +14

    I wouldn’t have guessed those women are obese but I wouldn’t call them slim either. I was thinking chubby or slightly overweight. Actually they actually would meet my definition of curvy! I agree that the BMI scale should be supplemented with fat percentage measurement.

  • @delenngerald4430
    @delenngerald4430 Pƙed 3 lety +57

    I'm not a big fan of the bmi when used alone, especially for women, but it's still a useful tool. And those women don't look obese but they don't look slim either, just average

    • @GW-gz8jh
      @GW-gz8jh Pƙed 3 lety +8

      The problem is significantly overweight is the average.

  • @nydieselinfl
    @nydieselinfl Pƙed 3 lety +8

    I used to be on the obese side, but completely changed my lifestyle 15 years ago, and have never looked back. I'm healthy, in shape, and it feels good!!! The women in that photo are definitely not healthy, but I feel like, unfortunately, they are the average here in the US. To be successful at being healthy, it's a lifestyle, and something you can't half-ass, or you'll get those results.

  • @CiarbyBlueBookworm
    @CiarbyBlueBookworm Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I think these ladies look good but they are definitely not slim, a bit chunky yes, but not slim. I'm probably considered morbidly obese and I am ashamed by my lack of self control, I admit that. I am trying so hard for the past 3 months to eat clean and healthy and exercise more. I have lost 10 kilos so far, it's not enough, but I am determined to keep going. You are an inspiration Papa Swolio 😊

  • @AmandaAfutuQuaye
    @AmandaAfutuQuaye Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Sir I usually agree with you on so many topics but when you said these women do not look health or eat right, I disagree. I workout about 5 to 6 times a week and eat a very clean keto diet.my body looks like some of these women

  • @cutesyjam
    @cutesyjam Pƙed 3 lety +14

    I heard that the limits are likely to be different for different ethnicities too as the composition of the body is different on average

    • @micheelcarina
      @micheelcarina Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Might be true. At our university we do bioimpedance analyses and have to enter the subject's ethnicity since the reference groups on which the data used for these analyses are based on differ from each other.

  • @bebemarie9311
    @bebemarie9311 Pƙed 3 lety +13

    They’re chubby/chunky not slim.

  • @voodoo9212
    @voodoo9212 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    The BMI confuses the shit out of me. When I was a healthy weight, I was between 125lbs to 130lbs, I looked and felt amazing. Years later I’m trying to get back to that goal, only to look up my BMI for my size and it’s says im supposed to be between 94 and 116lbs. I’m confused how can I be a perfect body weight and be considered over weight at the same tome. XD

  • @ammalyrical5646
    @ammalyrical5646 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    The ultimate sad here is the fact that these women don't seem to have any more personality they think is worth showing other than being politically correct. I mean I gotta say three of the five have nice enough legs and booties but I don't really think they look healthy and when I look at the total picture I just see what we (Dutch people during my childhood) call volslank (full slim, but it's actually just a nice way of saying someone is freaking fat).

  • @runningsinger8929
    @runningsinger8929 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    There are so many tools that can be used to measure health. Relying on just one measurement is foolish, in my opinion. If you don't want to use the bmi, that's fine, but don't hate on others that find it useful. I personally prefer body-fat percentage because it's more accurate and for my goals, it is far more useful.
    Most of my friends are runners, cyclists, and triathletes, so they keep me inspired to keep working and to not quit. Having that sort of environment is awesome and I'm fortunate that I have it.

  • @nicpic1985
    @nicpic1985 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    So the clothing size thing is a minefield. I went shopping with my teen daughter yesterday, they had 2XS in the shops. I had never seen this before it was always S or XS. So I had to explain to her that this is now a new size probably to prevent smaller women going crazy and freaking out thinking they had gained some phantom fat when they see a woman who would have been a medium suddenly in a small like them. As in medium is what large used to be, so small is now what medium used to be and so on. I do not like this con job, it does not help anyone and we are just deluding ourselves. I have been a skinny child, slim adult, very overweight, lost weight but overweight still according to BMI. I have people in my family skinnier than me and fatter than me, so I am being objective.

    • @rosem7042
      @rosem7042 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      But when will girls and women's clothes have normal-sized pockets?

    • @nicpic1985
      @nicpic1985 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@rosem7042 you know they got better whilst conversely I noted that the men's shirts got worse. Like the price difference between pockets and no pockets. At least in the UK.

    • @rosem7042
      @rosem7042 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@nicpic1985 oof. No luck for us Americans, but I'm glad you have decent pockets over there.

  • @Gaia_Seraphina
    @Gaia_Seraphina Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Thanks to the obesity pandemia, people nowadays believe that this is how "normal" women have to look like.
    Many people got a delusional perception of normalcy.
    Sad. 😔

  • @Philo68
    @Philo68 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    2020 a hot mess. I concur Papa!

  • @gwp4eva
    @gwp4eva Pƙed 3 lety +1

    anyone else watch channels like this as you’re working out or making a meal for that extra bit of motivation? or is it just me

  • @4everhealthwellness344
    @4everhealthwellness344 Pƙed rokem

    Being average is being mediocre, mediocre means you are doing minimal to no effort

  • @lexisig4597
    @lexisig4597 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    I’ll be honest. Im not a huge fan of BMI because it doesnt take into account body fat percentage or muscle mass. However, its a good guideline for overweight people to use to order to get yourself on the right track towards a more healthy weight. If youre obese and dont have much muscle on you, then you should probably take the measurement seriously. But then again, no doctors gonna look at a jacked guy and tell him hes unhealthy because his BMI is too high. Its called common sense.

  • @aprilb1273
    @aprilb1273 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I noticed some people think they're not overweight because they don't have a big a ss gut. But everywhere else their body looks like that Marshmallow Man from ghostbusters.

    • @courtneycherry113
      @courtneycherry113 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Its the opposite for me I got a gut but was putting off doing anything because I was skinny. Now im working on it and changing my diet a bit.

  • @florhermosa6185
    @florhermosa6185 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    The reality Is that in today’s society these women are considered slim/-average size and Obese people are fat/ big/ curvy.. etc .. while the morbidly obese are called overweight .. which is the opposite direction of where we should be headed .. đŸ€”in my opi

  • @zacharybloom5871
    @zacharybloom5871 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    “Slim?” Come back to reality...

  • @megantrejo2652
    @megantrejo2652 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Alright, papa. Usually I'm 100% on board with you but as someone who has lost 130 lbs this stung. I eat as clean as possible, I workout 5x/week but you probably wouldn't know it by looking at me because I have lose skin and you can't see any definition from all of the work I've put in. Just throwing it out there from someone who's worked their butt off to get healthy.

  • @itsjulliancook2900
    @itsjulliancook2900 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Also, I'm quite a bit smaller than those women, and I still consider my self fat, curvy, chubby or thicc. Those women are not slim. And Yes, I am considered overweight on the BMI scale.

  • @anitablack3447
    @anitablack3447 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    The BMI range is actually too high for many females. I have to severely overeat and be pre-diabetic to weigh even mid range but at bmi 18 and 10% bf my health and menstrual cycle were perfect.
    Normal and average are suboptimal.

  • @sitnspin1819
    @sitnspin1819 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Health At Every Size? So, I was the picture of health when I weighed 28 pounds. Shiny!

  • @katiecollins187
    @katiecollins187 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I’m saying the BMI scale is broken, only because it does not account for women’s breast’s at all. I think going by body fat percentage is better anyways đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

  • @basiccymro
    @basiccymro Pƙed 3 lety +3

    For what it's worth, I think celebrating participation is different from justifying not excelling. We can't all be 1st place even when we've all put equal effort in, but that effort should be celebrated to show people that their effort has value, and they should continue. That's why the 8th place medal matters. The 8th place person will have put effort in, unlike the people trying to justify not putting the effort in... We can't all be above average, and it's not an SJW thing... I love your enthusiasm and desire for us all to be the best we can be, just pointing out the nuance. I hope that makes sense â˜șïžđŸ‘ (I would always have the participation medal, sweating buckets all the way lol)

  • @ubbe12ande
    @ubbe12ande Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Well spoken!

  • @j.f.7439
    @j.f.7439 Pƙed 3 lety

    Always keepin real!!!
    Real talk!

  • @heybanana9288
    @heybanana9288 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Imagine if someone put "all these thick women are underweight according to bmi" and it was extremely thin ribs showing women, this is ridiculous

  • @laurzee
    @laurzee Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I think the BMI scale is a useful, generic tool for average people. It has problems if you are heavier due to body building or if you're older. Overall, I take it at face value: somewhat useful, but not a strict guideline for determining a healthy weight. I am obese; however, as a woman who will be 50 years old in about a month, I know that I would be very "skinny looking" if I was at my BMI normal low-end range of 105 lbs. I'm 5"3".

  • @GW-gz8jh
    @GW-gz8jh Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I hate the “health at every size” mantra. A lot of obesity related health issues are body “wear and tear” that accumulates or breaks down over time. So a lot of these morbidly obese 20-40yr olds don’t understand that while they’re metabolically healthy via lab values today, that doesn’t mean they’re necessarily overall healthy and/or won’t have problems within a few years.

  • @zoez5185
    @zoez5185 Pƙed 3 lety +37

    as a nurse with a graduate degree in public health I have to say you are spreading misinformation by downplaying COVID. I'm a swole fan but please don't spread this attitude about COVID unless you are trained to actually interpret CDC data which I definitely wouldn't have been able to until I studied for my MPH

  • @elenak8145
    @elenak8145 Pƙed 3 lety

    So so well said!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @joannapatterson4625
    @joannapatterson4625 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    They are all overweight which unfortunately is the average. Sad.

  • @kendramarkworth6855
    @kendramarkworth6855 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Um...NO....NOT SLIM. Everything in this video: Amen!!!

  • @stephanie8167
    @stephanie8167 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I have been considered "overweight" on the bmi since highschool, while I was on cross country, eating healthy. I am considered "overweight " now, as a waitresss that does a 7 mile average 5 days a week at work, that goes to the gym 4-5 days a week. I eat healthy. I have always been really muscular so I don't freak out about it. However, despite being a size 8 and all that activity, nurses still like to hand me "how to eat healthy and exercise " info everytime I go to the doctors, lol. I get annoyed by that, especially after I tell them my diet, show them my pedometer and let them know about my love for the gym. It annoys me. That and their scale always says I am 7 to 10lbs heavier than all of my home scales since literally forever.
    I don't disagree that these women look like they are on the obese side just by body fat alone. Just sharing my new experiences since literally forever lol

  • @jameskrellwitz3590
    @jameskrellwitz3590 Pƙed 3 lety

    Obesity deaths are catching up to smoking deaths, per year

  • @karynpeterson8343
    @karynpeterson8343 Pƙed 3 lety

    Ive been really focused on my weight and health lately after finding papa, Alan and obese to beast (been on and off the wagon for years- lost over 50kilos now). I'm pretty muscular but was super excited to finally come out of the obese category for the first time in my adult life. Still overweight but definitely headed in the right direction!

  • @marceline7522
    @marceline7522 Pƙed 3 lety

    My bmi is 22.8 at 5'4" 133 lbs. I try to eat my best and have cut out so much shit and added exercise. I don't appreciate when I get shit for being "skinny" or saying "she wouldn't understand shes thin.."
    Put my body and mind through hell with an eating disorder and finally beat it but because im "thin" people think i have no problems at all 😆

  • @randolphhewitt7836
    @randolphhewitt7836 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I been called slim and I'm 207 been trimming down from 240. Im not slim. I know it and ill be damned if false comments derail me from my goal. Weird world we live in when people try to get you to gain pounds as if its a good thing. I've learned to never take compliments. Because that's how you get guided into fallowing the herd. Stay focused. If you want someone to tell you your doing good. Then that's on you. If you hold yourself to high standards then you'll release how many people have low standards. Stand tall and never let yourself slip. If you know you need to get up and do your best and you got cats in your corner saying you've done enough its time to get reed of the dead weight. We are who we hang around and if you want any hope you'll rather be friendless then anther chunky monkey in the line to a snack bar.

  • @annileppakoski2355
    @annileppakoski2355 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    10:00 The bar should only be lowered while doing a bench press. 👌😂

  • @psionicinversion
    @psionicinversion Pƙed 3 lety +3

    i think they should use those bio impedance scales at the doctors, they are extremely cheap although dunno if they make them that is hardy enough for some people! That way it can give you a weight and estimated visceral and adipose fat content of your body. Its not super accurate cus you cant expect it to be for ÂŁ20 |(for a home scale) but it gives you a better idea of where your body is at. That way if you are technically overweight/obese cus of your BMI looking at fat content to would give the doctors an idea that you are loaded with muscle if your visceral and adipose are low.
    Of course the fat acceptance would hate to see alarming levels of visceral and adipose on them coming up on an app and cry about that to.

  • @simplylivinglacey7702
    @simplylivinglacey7702 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    As of a few weeks ago I was 278 lb. I haven't weighed myself since then but I have been doing everything I can to be healthy I have been walking everyday along with trying to do 15-minute exercises at least every other day I've gotten rid of anything unhealthy in my home anything processed is gone. And it is so surprising the amount of shit my friend has been giving me. She's closer to 400 lbs and because of a surgery she's had in the past just like I have had the same surgery she's supposed to be eating like I am and walking and exercising and I tried to get her to do it with me but the healthier I'm trying to be in the more bad stuff I cut out and the more I exercise she's been getting more and more upset with me trying to tell me that there's nothing wrong with eating cookies that there's nothing wrong with eating at McDonald's sometimes, ect..... I thought she would be happy for me but it seems to be the exact opposite

  • @myadale1731
    @myadale1731 Pƙed 3 lety

    Exactly. I am 4'11" and 150, I was very slim (actually slim) and muscular, even though considered "obese" on BMI scale. But my sister is 180 lbs and 5'3" and she is considered obese on the BMI scale. Even though she wasn't huge, she definitley was overweight, and unhealthy. BMI isn't perfect, but it isn't completely invalid because it has some flaws.

  • @MandieTerrier
    @MandieTerrier Pƙed 3 lety

    If I was 142 pounds of muscle. It would be wrong in saying I am overweight. I however am 142 lbs of flab. It's not wrong. I am overweight. Is it me or you never notice muscular people crying about the BMI scale?

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess4869 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    When i was 10 and played wii fit it absolutely didn't feel good being told that I was overweight from a videos game but it made me aware that I wasn't in the normal weight range while I didn't understand it then it made me want to work hard to lose the weight

  • @KatieJohnsonVlogs
    @KatieJohnsonVlogs Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I don’t think they’re obese. I don’t think they’re going to drop dead from their weight in their life time. But I can’t say that for sure just by looking at them. I think that’s what “health at every size” is trying to get at but it’s gotten too skewed towards fat acceptance. We can’t tell what’s going on in someone’s life to make them look the way they do .. or how they are able to move. Doesn’t give someone the excuse to shove terrible food down their throats 24/7

    • @mverleene
      @mverleene Pƙed 3 lety +3

      yeah they don't look obese. Idk if the BMI scale is the same in every country but as a french person who went from considered obese to considered at a healthy weight, they kinda look just overweight. But as Papa Swolio said, they're posing

    • @mverleene
      @mverleene Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @MrJabloney you're absolutely right, obese doesn't necessarily mean Amberlynn Reid

  • @Laura-gg9tp
    @Laura-gg9tp Pƙed 3 lety

    They're average size women but they're not slim and I doubt anyone would call that type of bodies "slim" other than to feel better about themselves. Much like calling yourself "curvy" when you're obese.
    Just couse overweight is the average doesn't make it the new slim. Also, they're average size in the US. That's not the norm everywhere else.

  • @kaleidoscope5054
    @kaleidoscope5054 Pƙed 3 lety

    I got a pizza ad on this lmao

  • @tiva615
    @tiva615 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    If those women are slim, I'm a anorexic then!

  • @_withjulie
    @_withjulie Pƙed 3 lety

    Do we need a BMI to know if we are fat or obese? No just a miroir serisouly

  • @carolineguin7117
    @carolineguin7117 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    They do not look slim to me. They look a bit larger than me and I am still very much overweight (I'm working on it). BMI is accurate when you have a large excess of fat to lose in my opinion it can help figure out how bad it is.

  • @Kaalokalawaia
    @Kaalokalawaia Pƙed 3 lety +1

    If they had some extremely muscular women there I think it would be more accurate. What a lot of fat people don't know is that under their fat is NOT a ton of muscle if they don't exercise.

  • @Dreycoo
    @Dreycoo Pƙed 3 lety

    In my experience, you should always exercise in one way or another. If you can't lift weights ....go for a morning run... Or just walk a lot throughout your day. I feel bad when I stop exercising for a week and my mental health gets affected. Ofc exercising releases mental burden. So even if you are an average size or even if you're eating shit, just workout.

  • @incredibleworld7407
    @incredibleworld7407 Pƙed 3 lety

    As a Japanese woman living in Japan these fat acceptance fatphobic things going on in the states are crazy. Those ladies in the picture are absolutely beautiful but they would be called obese in my country I'm 170cm and 53kg and still some people tell me I should lose weight or look chubby or big.

    • @ninab.7018
      @ninab.7018 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Then the perspective in your country is another extreme. I would consider you very slim according to your height and weight i would guess a size 34 (xs) how is that not skinny? I am glad I live in europe because I wouldn’t fit in in japan or america 😂

  • @joshveall7092
    @joshveall7092 Pƙed 2 lety

    BMI are rubbish according to bmi at 6.3 I should be 12 stone now I haven’t been 12 stone since I was 17 and even then I was closer to 13 and I was really skinny

  • @christosrousis2041
    @christosrousis2041 Pƙed 3 lety

    i don't why anyone would think that these women are slim. I love these endings with tess horniday!!

  • @melodysafo5437
    @melodysafo5437 Pƙed 3 lety

    I just want to say that there is a difference between thick vs overweight, and these ladies are not thick. They're overweight.

  • @netpunk5890
    @netpunk5890 Pƙed 3 lety

    “Baby... baby... bucket??”

  • @fauxvixen
    @fauxvixen Pƙed 3 lety

    BMI is one of many tools outside of a standard scale to judge body condition. However it should not be the sole decider đŸ€·â€â™€ïž I'm personally aiming for 20% body fat, currently 23% which for me at my height and build should range 65kg-75kg which will depend on my muscle percentage đŸ€š numbers change, health goals stay the same.
    Type 2 diabetes, PCOS is not an excuse I've kicked 20kg off so far.

  • @alisonfalldin2188
    @alisonfalldin2188 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you thank thank you for truth bomb without the F bomb! đŸ‘đŸœđŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸż

  • @kristinm4646
    @kristinm4646 Pƙed 3 lety

    Okay wait, what about when you do exercise? And drink over a gallon of water a day? I still don’t “look” like I exercise, because I have loose skin. I won’t “look” like I exercise unless I get ripped underneath my loose skin.

  • @myadale1731
    @myadale1731 Pƙed 3 lety

    You don't have to be slim to like your body, but you should be taking care of it at least. How can you like yourself if you constanly eat trash and be sedentary?

  • @MrWatsonComeHere
    @MrWatsonComeHere Pƙed 3 lety

    I can’t see how they are “thin” under any definition. I used to think the BMI scale was ridiculous and unobtainable when I was 100 pounds overweight, of course. Now I’m in the healthy BMI for my height. Sure it seems to run low for the average muscular or 2020 American but not for the average pre 1950’s through 1990’s Americans.

  • @charlottemadadi
    @charlottemadadi Pƙed 3 lety

    I find the second from left good looking, she seems firm...I wouldnÂŽt call her "slim", more like chubby but she might be healthy if she eats right and exercizes...
    But anyway, there are limits to BMI, some can have a BMI of 17 and eat enough and be fine, others a BMI of 27 and be exercizing and eating the right amount, but no one (or barely anyone) would naturally have a BMI of 15- or 35+...

  • @WisePaul1337
    @WisePaul1337 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    đŸ’Ș

  • @tompoulmarch7829
    @tompoulmarch7829 Pƙed 3 lety

    FACTS

  • @bluntforcetanya
    @bluntforcetanya Pƙed 3 lety

    I DISAGREE that a baby & a bucket of water are very different đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž

  • @angiemaritza2408
    @angiemaritza2408 Pƙed 3 lety

    I’ve noticed they changed the body fat percentage names lol to be like more accepting 😂😂

  • @nutritiontrainingroutinedi5336

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  • @rachellewis5210
    @rachellewis5210 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    i agree bmi kinda sucks. my dad is just shy of 300 lbs and he’s 6’2 58 years old but he has the similar amount of muscle mass as a bodybuilder (he was told that after an extensive body test that determines what percent of your body is organs/bones/etc, muscle, and fat.) and while according to his bmi he’s obese but he has significantly less fat and more muscle than most people in his BMI group. pinch test is better, accounts for people like my dad, and bodybuilders who are considered obese by bmi

    • @rachellewis5210
      @rachellewis5210 Pƙed 3 lety

      don’t get me wrong he def had too much body fat and he considers himself obese but he looks VASTLY different from someone who’s 300 lbs and that’s all fat

  • @TheKisj
    @TheKisj Pƙed 3 lety +2

    This has to be stopped soon

  • @carlamurphy7541
    @carlamurphy7541 Pƙed 2 lety

    Why do we accept mediocrity....yes they are average according to societies current standards but we know the standard is pretty unhealthy. I got slammed recently for saying I could not be attracted to a fat man but it's not about looks...if you are fat you don't care for yourself and if you don't care for yourself why would I expect you to care for me? I wouldn't be attracted to an alcoholic or drug addict for same reason. People need standards

  • @thefitnessbeast7424
    @thefitnessbeast7424 Pƙed 3 lety

    As an "ex-fat" (lol Jesus Christ) I find being labeled as such, and with all the associated negative aspects of being hateful towards fat people, again something I do not agree with, is more of a way to promote mediocrity. It is a bloody excuse for people to remain fat and unhealthy. Absolute BS.

  • @HallieEva
    @HallieEva Pƙed 3 lety

    Both extremes are kind of toxic. I mean this in like the nicest way possible there are people that can lose weight and get in shape but they're never going to look good by the definition Society puts out. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't still work out and take care of them. There women that have had kids they're always going to have a little tiny belly pooch unless they have surgery that doesn't mean that they're not fit that doesn't mean they shouldn't strive to be fit. Same with people who lose a lot of weight and have extra skin. We need to focus more on the health aspect and less on the looks aspect.

  • @itsjulliancook2900
    @itsjulliancook2900 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I laugh when obese people tell me BMI is wrong. My ex tried to say his doctor was crap because his doctor used BMI and it's wrong. I straight up when, bish, BMI doesn't work for people who are athletes and the sort, and you clearly are not

    • @jade5202
      @jade5202 Pƙed 3 lety

      imagine getting told BMI is wrong and you're a bmi 21 woman lul.
      I got told that by some guy who got his body fat percentage taken cuz he was worried he lost +5kg in a month. His body fat was 25% *shrug*

  • @literallyihannot6114
    @literallyihannot6114 Pƙed 3 lety

    Interesting to me how the conversation shifted in the past decade from women gain weight as they age/menopause makes it difficult to lose weight/cellulite is a female secondary sex characteristic therefore older women shouldn’t feel bad about their bodies and should honor them to why not have an old lady body in your 20s and age yourself prematurely because you need therapy. That might not be the most coherent but I promise there’s something to it

  • @darthmelkor2809
    @darthmelkor2809 Pƙed 3 lety

    Nut goes the tessy

  • @shandacrouch4946
    @shandacrouch4946 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    These arnt slim women?

  • @rohrchamberlain6179
    @rohrchamberlain6179 Pƙed 3 lety

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    wheres the subscribe button i must have more of this humor

  • @jade5202
    @jade5202 Pƙed 3 lety

    If they're slim, I'm skelly lmaooo.. Anyways, they're not average, they're fat

  • @victoriaalbastra6325
    @victoriaalbastra6325 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Infinyfat lol

  • @micheelcarina
    @micheelcarina Pƙed 3 lety

    Of course they are classified as obese according to their BMI, lol. Isn't that obvious? If they'd be very muscular (and weight even more), of course they would still be considered obese. BMI is just height and weight. What about FFM and FM? BMI is so outdated - applicable to the "average" person - yes, for a first "diagnose" maybe.

  • @boriskuznetsov9465
    @boriskuznetsov9465 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Where are asians and latinos? Also what about men, trans?

  • @sweetbearfanfictions5575
    @sweetbearfanfictions5575 Pƙed 3 lety

    Is really thats the average women size ?
    Change it please ....
    Thats fat in asian country ... Even in india (second largest obesity rate in world) i am that size i cant even keep a count of how many people telling me to loose weight when i am even on the process of it ...

  • @OhHaroDerp
    @OhHaroDerp Pƙed 2 lety

    If you look down and can’t see tour junk Without arching your back. You ain’t slim

  • @Crackpot_Astronaut
    @Crackpot_Astronaut Pƙed 3 lety

    I think they look..fine, but I like my women a little meaty. Healthy, but curvy.
    They *most certainly* are not slim. Like. At all.
    Ffs. what are we doing, people đŸ€Šâ€â™€ïž

  • @patty7419
    @patty7419 Pƙed 3 lety

    #papaswolio what do you think of the black national anthem at NFL?

  • @MileinaJuarez
    @MileinaJuarez Pƙed 3 lety +1

    These women are not fat but not slim either . but the BMI alone is really not always good. It uses a B cup as a standard. And was only developed on one body type. Belly fat is much more dangerous than having a big butt .I weigh almost 140 pounds at 5.5 but I have a D cup ( that weighs 10 -15 pounds more than a B or smaller ). I have a tiny waist 59 cm as of today but wider hips. My fat percentage is lower so I got more muscle weight. My waist hip ratio is ideal. A doctor never looks at me and thinks I’m too fat. If a doctor sees a true fit woman and says she’s unhealthy because of the BMI he’s an idiot.
    But we should not be surprised. We won’t go to visit most people for dinner anymore. What they eat barely counts as food and makes me sick.

    • @ninab.7018
      @ninab.7018 Pƙed 3 lety

      I feel you. My height and weight is similar to yours my bmi is normal (about 23 or so) and with a size 38 I often don’t know where I belong to in those categories.

    • @MileinaJuarez
      @MileinaJuarez Pƙed 3 lety

      Nina B. Your BMI is healthy. Check your waist hip ratio too it’s more accurate for the dangers of belly fat etc.
      I wear a US size 4 at 138 pounds with the same BMI as yours. But my measurements are tiny in the waist. 58 cm with a very big hip spring to a 93 cm hip . The BMI can’t calculate that just as it can’t calculate someone with less body fat percentage than average. If I account for the fact that my boobs are heavy and calculate what my weight would be on a B cup my BMI would be a 20. A BMI can’t tell you these things. Just as it can not see how someone carries their weight and that can make a huge difference.
      If you are active you should be fine at your weight. It’s a good weight. Healthy. Although I wonder where you live because believe me here you would not be a size 38 but smaller . But then I don’t know your build so I’m just guessing . Anyways you belong in the healthy weight category and don’t have to worry probably.

    • @ninab.7018
      @ninab.7018 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Natalie Juarez My shoulders and hips (99 cm) are wider like an hourglass figure, I have a flat tummy but my waist is not that small (72 cm). It’s more my butt that stores the fat I guess because my chest (c cup) is average 😂 I live in Austria.

    • @MileinaJuarez
      @MileinaJuarez Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Nina B. Sounds fine to me. Your measurements are good. If you carry your extra weight in your butt that’s great because it often looks good and is not a health problem. You sound great to me.
      Btw I moved from Germany to the USA two years ago. Also ganz liebe GrĂŒĂŸe

    • @ninab.7018
      @ninab.7018 Pƙed 3 lety

      Natalie Juarez Thank you very much. You look very beautiful on your profile picture :)

  • @crosisofborg5524
    @crosisofborg5524 Pƙed 3 lety

    Helping women feel good does not equate to making women take responsibility. The ladies in that photo are fat, not slim.

  • @al-dorifto1631
    @al-dorifto1631 Pƙed 3 lety

    We should be nice to fat people... They will save us in a zombie apocalypse :):):)